When you tune into a military video and this narrator is the one narrating you know its gonna be a banger😂 but fr his voice is beyond perfect for all the military related videos Insider does
@@ianramoscardenas4507 I'm also active duty. These are military cadets at a military 4-year college. Once they graduate, most will be commissioned as officers. Doing 4 years of academics while also having to adhere to a strict military regimen is far more difficult than a brief boot camp will ever be.
@@VerakkTV Personally I think that any academy graduates should have to attend boot camp after. Simple reasons is they will learn what those kids they will be leading have gone through. Also if you made it through four years of an academy it should not be hard but a challenge to them to see how well they can do. If you get your commission through an academy you do get more respect points automatically from enlisted. At the same time they pair you up with a senior NCO to make sure you don’t f up.
My son graduated from from Norwich in 2019. My son has always been a leader. This school honed his skills to the next level. He has achieved a sense of leadership and a never quit attitude that many other schools will never have. This is a great school! I have had many conversations with CMMSGT BOSLEY. He is aan that is dedicated to the school and more importantly to the students under his command. There is no finer person then Command Sargeant Major Bosley. Under his watchful eyes you may rest assured that your sons and daughters are in excellent hands. NORWICH FOREVER FOREVER NORWICH!
Considered Norwich, ended up at The Citadel. Never once regretted it. But, in the spirit of military education institutes, Norwich has always been respected by the others.
I also considered Norwich but chose VMI and I have no regrets. The VMI Ratline was the most stressful and hardest thing I ever went through but the most rewarding. I see some of these comments complaining about cadets getting yelled at, what do think is going to happen it’s a Military School.
You’re not wrong. I mean, was this really the finest representation of the incoming freshman class? Because, if so, that has to be quite embarrassing for the institution as a whole.
Northfield was my hometown, and my sister actually attended as a civilian. However, I learned something new watching this documentary. Very enlightening.
I got to visit and meet some of the people in this video at FLC and they all had some of the biggest impacts on me in my life so far. The guys I did FLC with are some of the closest friends I made and I was only with them for 9 days.
The founder of Norwich, Alden Partridge, was the Superintendent at West Point. He felt that the education there was too one-dimensional and that they were not creating quality officers. He founded Norwich because he believed that officers needed to be trained in a wide variety of subjects and learn to be critical thinkers. He introduced many innovations there that universities still try to copy today--like experiential learning. So basically, you can go to an academy for free to learn to be an officer or you can go to Norwich and learn to be a well-rounded, critical thinking officer or join a 3- letter agency, or become a business leader. Far more options at Norwich.
@@FuzzyNestor Misunderstanding. I was just pointing out the very famous comic character in the UK. He's a fictional radio DJ called Alan Partridge and he famously lives in Norwich and has a show on Radio Norwich. It's the character that made steve coogan famous. It's just a name coincidence.
I don't get it why not just signup for UC Berkeley or any other university with lower fees and join the ROTC. U If we're arguing about private business exit options, UC Berkeley has way brand recognition in the private sector.
My dad was a sports nut in high school and got a three year sports scholarship. This was back in the 30s and his family had no money for college At the end of 3 years he was out of scholarship and luck. The university president offered to pay his tuition on a gentleman’s agreement if my dad would pay it back in 5 years My dad sold sandwiches in the dorm and worked during breaks and paid the president back on graduation day. That shows how much money and people have changed since then. He went into the reserves until he was called up in the war; he always had good memories of his Norwich days
lol. I’m still alive because I haven’t hit 70 yet- there is still life after you get your be 25😂. My father was a member of the class of 1937 , got his commission in the reserves and called up when we were having problems with Hitler. I came along when he was 40, he was a great dad and grandfather, and still alive in my memory. You guys enjoy your young grandparents and being on the young side of 40. It won’t last forever 😂
@pwhales264 two words: Custer Syndrome. Officers obsessed with glory instead of proper leadership and offer lackluster and even dangerous leadership styles. Aggie here, (Texas A&M), and doing my time in our Corps of Cadets, we and Norwich seem to have a similar structure and standard of excellence. VMI and El Cid are notorious for having higher rates of hazing and incidences of nepotism in Cadet leadership than the other SMCs. Granted we have our problems as does Norwich but holy hell. The stories I've heard really showcase 2 different worlds.
@@bbm-140 Tech is similar to A&M as it was an SMC turned into a full-fledged co-ed university, as well as their Corps became optional like us. They honestly keep to themselves in terms of media presence and ROTC performance. But I've heard decent things.
The video doesn't mention it, however, sure the school is expensive on paper, but the amount of scholarships and grants gifted to students from the school and alumni make enrollment much more feasible and possible for anyone that wants to take on the opportunity.
It’s expensive on paper because it is actually expensive. The students just don’t bear the cost. The taxpayer does. This university is scamming the government out of grant money. I’m not going to complain about the ROTC scholarship because that’s the same everywhere it’s the grants that’s the real problem. all the students could go to other schools and join an ROTC program for a fraction of the price.
@@djones1234567654321 more like 90% covered by the taxpayer. Most people probably don’t care about the ROTC scholarship, but I do have a real problem with the university scamming the government out of grant money.
@@mikej5959 I didn’t know that the taxpayers were all alumni? Many of these grants come from graduates who pay it forward. The school has one of the strongest alumni networks in the nation and many become donors.
When i came home from Iraq I got selected to be a summer instructor at USMA for Operation Highland Warrior. During the Company Defense phase we had yhe cadets dig two man fighting positions. We stopped the training so all of the cadets could file by the fighting position dug by a Norwich Cadet and her battle buddy. It was the best fighting position i had seen in a very long rime.
@@Forester- thats nice? i rather that then get yelled at by pogs that havnt seen a day of real military service lol expecially with all these snobby women lol
Agree. when you graduate from the U.S.M.M.A. you can if there are open slots,the service branch you want.And as a deck or engineer officer in the Merchant Fleet,make big big bucks.
Ahhhhh. Good times. Just keep everything shined and focus on what’s important (academics FIRST). It’s a great experience and one you won’t regret later in life. Essayons.
“Permission to touch?” How the hell else do you plan on measuring him?! That’s like a barber asking permission to touch…how do you plan on cutting my hair? The force?!
yeah well sure, however the Army ain't gonna give you a college education and some jobs in the military are only for officers (such as pilot). And if you say "but one can apply to OCS from the street for free", let me tell you that selection to OCS is very competitive from the street and still ain't easy from inside as enlisted. It really depends upon goals to determine which path makes the most sense for each person.
I saw a survey that graduates from here are in the top 10% of income earners when established in their careers. This school stood out to me because it was mixed in with some very notable universities in the country. The return on investment is amazing for these kids.
It seems more likely that their incomes are inflated due to nepotism and generational wealth than the school's performance. On an unrelated note, why do these dudes keep saying rook is short for recruit, when it is clearly short for "rookie"
@@AndrewDangerously Don't know for sure. However, a quick search on financial aid, says 96% of their students receive financial assistance from the school. Just on that data set alone, I find it hard to verify your position on generational wealth. Could be...
@@AndrewDangerously It does not prove it either. You have the burden of proof to substantiate your position. Otherwise, you can't be trusted with anything you say. Ultimately, I really do not care.
@@AndrewDangerously I got a significant sum of money from the school, the rest is all in loans that I took out myself. No assistance from anyone else. I am very much not in the minority position on the campus, at the very least, not on the Corps of Cadets side of the school. Your ideology tends to hold slightly more true for the civilian students, but even then its a stretch
I did my first year there then enlisted...honestly basic was stupid easy for me after that!!! Even got Distinguished Honor Grad...ended up Airborne and Pathfinder Qualified as a squad leader 6 yrs later!!!
@@GAMES.GUNS.andLIFE that's awesome man, I talked to a recruiter and shipped off a few weeks later or so without knowing anything at all so basic was pretty rough for me at the age I was with no experience/maturity.
@AllenV-q8n it was a blast man, the good times, the bad times, the "growing up", the hazing...wouldn't have changed a thing, would've 100 percent done my year at Norwich then enlisted, AGAIN!!!
Very good option for all Americans and foreign students who plan on a very highly disciplined and rigid education system without commitment to US Military service but instill the core of discipline for their entire lives.
"It's crazy how nice the people cutting hair are. I remember they almost gave us whiplash, and half the people left with a bloody head. It's wild how different the enlisted pipeline is from the officer pipeline.
This is like a guaranteed way to graduate college Discipline, physical capability, confidence building Turning boys to men and girls to women Better then cheap colleges that worry about emotions
@@VlonelyRed I have average intelligence, don't come from money and I got plenty of NU scholarships. I also landed an ROTC scholarship after I maintained a decent gpa for 2 semesters. I work hard. I now have less than 10k in debt left and I graduated NU somewhat recently. I made some of my best memories and best friends there. Plus i get to call beautiful Vermont home to my alma mater which is awesome coming from a boring flatland state out west. Worth it. Additionally, the Norwich network is worth its weight in gold with many different careers. Just work hard and do good things. God bless, NU forever.
I haven't read all the comments, but not only does Norwich have the oldest ROTC program, but it is also well-known for providing the Army with many cavalry and later, armor officers, I.D. White, and Ernest Harmon among them. Edited to add: They also used to have an on-line Masters and Doctoral program in military history, and may still.
For those mentioning getting yelled at and paying $70k, most students actually receive full-ride scholarships. My nephew graduated from there years ago, and my brother didn’t pay a dime. It’s a fantastic opportunity, as graduates secure a position as an officer in the U.S. military.
After watching your military recruitment videos, I can definitely say it seems much easier to join the U.S. military as an officer compared to my country. Here, thousands compete for a handful of positions, and many applicants are already earning more than they would in the military.
Those who are calling these men and women "LARPers" and insulting their dedication to this program, you simply do not get it. As a graduate of this institution and an Active Duty Air Force Officer, I can promise you that the reasons these individuals choose to come here are so much deeper than to "play soldier". They seek challenge. They seek a unique college experience. They seek camaraderie. And as someone who spent four years here, I can guarantee you they will find it and they will grow as individuals, and as the finest Officers the armed forces have.
Not sure why some negative comments. Most at this school commission and become successful military leaders. Others pay for school just like everyone else but leave with leadership and other skills and confidence that they can not learn from other universities.
Military leaderhip is not thesame as civvy. When young officers go into the military, they have NCOs as a buffer between them and the ORs. Some youngter out of that unie, going into a civvy career, trying to act like an officer, than a manager, will cause feck ups.
Well, they’re selling their bodies and souls to a corporate run country that doesn’t care about them under the guise of patriotism. You can learn leadership and confidence whether you go to school of any kind or not. They also look like dweebs.
@@oksowhat Some kid coming out all spit and polish, and no NCO to put them in there place, hold the leash, until they can walk by them selfs I hope they are taught the difference between civvy teams and a military unit.
I can’t believe how out of shape some of these kids look. Back in the 1990’s they were called “Nintendo Babies” in boot camp. I blame the parents and hope this academy will change their lives in a good way. I know joining the Navy did me a ton of good.
Look at the state of cities and even towns in the US. Very little to no sidewalks, no bike lanes, not even decent public transport. When you're forced to drive everywhere and there's a fast food joint every few buildings... There's no investment in public health anymore
@BusinessInsider - do a video profiling the Corps of Cadets at Texas A&M. It is one of six Senior Military Colleges and has a full time uniformed cadet corps!
I went through basic training in the Canadian army. It is modelled on the British Army. No one yells at you ever but sometimes the drill people make you feel pretty small. It worked. I watched videos of US basic training. It looked wierd
I have so much respect for Norwich students! I have played against them often in Men’s Rugby and they remind me each time what intense training they have
Anyone remember that camp comedy , when the new recruits turn up at the front gate and the Sargent Major comes out and starts bawling and screaming " Right you 'orrible shower , drop yer cases and get in line !! Quickly ! Get a move on !! Let's have you ! " And one of the recruits just stands there and doesn't move .The sergent major comes running over screaming in his ear . The recruit says " I say old boy would you mind awfully not shouting too loudly ? I ve got this terrible headache ! I got a call from Jessic late last night ! Too many Pink Gins in the club don't you know !? Could you be a dear and get me some aspirin " Well the Seargent Major's face turned purple with rage just before his head exploded !
Yo a lot of big talk in this comment section for people who are too weak to do it. I get it, 50K is a lot of money, but most of us have ROTC scholarships, and I can attest that the officers that this school produce are the finest in the US.
This is kind of a scam considering how the United States Air Force trains you to be a leader in BMT. After that there's nothing but promotions to become an officer in every AFSC if you qualify.
15:13 “working on a way to have 2 phone calls” what? 😂😂 do they gotta have a 2/3 majority US Senate vote just to allow these dudes to call both mommy and daddy on a Sunday?
I’m not lying when I say this, I’ve been to Norwich before but not for the college rather a Boy Scout camping trip. It was a windy one that’s for sure lol but they taught us like firing positions, I believe some marching but don’t remember since I was like 14-15 yrs old when I went there but the best part was when they had us do the repeal tower. That was FUN! Everyone I saw went down so slow lol I went down quick. Lowkey wish I can do all that again but it was awesome when I did it
Damn I went here for only 1 year in 2020 got recognized in march 2021 and in all honesty that was one of the worst times in my life and everyday I was there was just pure pain. But it was also one of the best times in a weird way too 😂
Glad I went to US Air Force BMT instead. Got paid to be bitched at by MTIs and got paid from my civy job at the same time! Honestly, I believe PRIOR SERVICE enlisted experience SHOULD push commissioned officer candidates to the TOP of the applicant pool!
I truly don't understand the point of these schools. You are paying ridiculous amounts of money to get yelled at by civilians who are just further into their schooling. If you then go onto join the military, yes, the discipline & military customs will help initially, basic training would have taught you that anyway.
@@Discipleofthelordandjesus you can say that about literally any SMC. Your point? Even West Point cadets have told people they’d rather have gone to Norwich than West Point (from the horses mouth).
Seems strange to most people, but I'm sure there's a small percentage that this is a positive experience for. I'm sure most people wouldn't enjoy going to the Christian university I went to, but it was amazing for me.
Letting children scream at other children and then being surprised that abuse occurs is really pathetic. The entire school system is structured in such a way that such incidents are bound to occur, the few cases that come to public attention are just the tip of the iceberg. The whole thing has nothing to do with military training or general education. For the perpetrators it is later the best time of their lives, the victims are usually silent. None of this makes them better officers nor does it contribute to their education. Symbol „Von der Community überprüft“
@Bellthorian A nation that doesn't trust an 18-year-old to handle beer responsibly, but thinks he's mature enough to go to war, would generally have to rethink its own classifications. On the subject, I have hardly met a teenager in my life who was mature enough to be trusted with human life. Furthermore, regardless of this, organizations that have an overly elitist self-image and false choral spirit are not only extremely vulnerable to abuse (there are endless examples in the history of humanity all over the world), they are actually always 40% hot air, 40% Arrogance and 20% nepotism. If I were serious, ten times out of ten I would follow someone who has learned their craft from the ground up instead of a "ring bearer".
(timestamp 13:02) Yea simply jogging won't cut it. If you want to prepare for sessions like that (which can never be a true 100%), doing anaerobic routines and High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT) will go much better.
Ive never understood sometimes in all the branches of our Military when students show up for boot camp that they show up completely out of shape.If I new I was going to boot camp I would try to be in a little bit of shape.These kids are way to young to be this out of shape.
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Paying 40K a year to get yelled at is outrageous. I get the same treatment from my mom for free.
Don’t even pay a fraction of that
Maybe it the way for parents keep their children out of drugs and alcohol
Here I can see straight discipline
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This is insane. I pay 70k to be treated like garbage.
"we make them look good so they won't get yelled at", that was sweet!
sorry but its actually something like“we make them look good so they wont get yelled at too much upstairs”
so they will be yelled at anyway lol
When you tune into a military video and this narrator is the one narrating you know its gonna be a banger😂 but fr his voice is beyond perfect for all the military related videos Insider does
Just join the Army and get yelled at for free……and they’ll pay for your education too 😂
Fr, I’m an active duty marine, I look at this and see no real discipline, no sense of urgency, responsibility or respect whatsoever. Too soft
@@ianramoscardenas4507 I'm also active duty. These are military cadets at a military 4-year college. Once they graduate, most will be commissioned as officers. Doing 4 years of academics while also having to adhere to a strict military regimen is far more difficult than a brief boot camp will ever be.
@@ianramoscardenas4507 Heck I am Air Force and even I am saying WTF?
@@VerakkTV Personally I think that any academy graduates should have to attend boot camp after. Simple reasons is they will learn what those kids they will be leading have gone through. Also if you made it through four years of an academy it should not be hard but a challenge to them to see how well they can do. If you get your commission through an academy you do get more respect points automatically from enlisted. At the same time they pair you up with a senior NCO to make sure you don’t f up.
No, join the Army and get PAID to be yelled at! :) And, like you said, they'll pay for your education!
My son graduated from from Norwich in 2019. My son has always been a leader. This school honed his skills to the next level. He has achieved a sense of leadership and a never quit attitude that many other schools will never have. This is a great school! I have had many conversations with CMMSGT BOSLEY. He is aan that is dedicated to the school and more importantly to the students under his command. There is no finer person then Command Sargeant Major Bosley. Under his watchful eyes you may rest assured that your sons and daughters are in excellent hands. NORWICH FOREVER FOREVER NORWICH!
Considered Norwich, ended up at The Citadel. Never once regretted it. But, in the spirit of military education institutes, Norwich has always been respected by the others.
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Does everyone at the citadel have an rotc scholarship? I can’t imagine someone paying to get abused
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I also considered Norwich but chose VMI and I have no regrets. The VMI Ratline was the most stressful and hardest thing I ever went through but the most rewarding. I see some of these comments complaining about cadets getting yelled at, what do think is going to happen it’s a Military School.
@@chevy4x466well not everybody can get into the service academies; quality usually comes with a price
You guys sure know how to pick the goober squad as interviewees.
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You’re not wrong. I mean, was this really the finest representation of the incoming freshman class? Because, if so, that has to be quite embarrassing for the institution as a whole.
i have no idea what goober means but I know this word is what perfectly describes them. They are just 1 degree up mclovin types.
"alternative lifestyles".
Northfield was my hometown, and my sister actually attended as a civilian. However, I learned something new watching this documentary. Very enlightening.
I got to visit and meet some of the people in this video at FLC and they all had some of the biggest impacts on me in my life so far. The guys I did FLC with are some of the closest friends I made and I was only with them for 9 days.
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you were session 2 right?
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The founder of Norwich, Alden Partridge, was the Superintendent at West Point. He felt that the education there was too one-dimensional and that they were not creating quality officers.
He founded Norwich because he believed that officers needed to be trained in a wide variety of subjects and learn to be critical thinkers. He introduced many innovations there that universities still try to copy today--like experiential learning.
So basically, you can go to an academy for free to learn to be an officer or you can go to Norwich and learn to be a well-rounded, critical thinking officer or join a 3- letter agency, or become a business leader. Far more options at Norwich.
NO way is the founder Alden Partridge. See Alan Partridge, Norwich UK's most famous citizen.
@1mlister Alden not Alan. And it's information you can easily fact check on something called the internet.
@@FuzzyNestor Misunderstanding. I was just pointing out the very famous comic character in the UK. He's a fictional radio DJ called Alan Partridge and he famously lives in Norwich and has a show on Radio Norwich. It's the character that made steve coogan famous. It's just a name coincidence.
@@1mlisterMy bad too. I was being social media snarky... not good. Apologies!
I don't get it why not just signup for UC Berkeley or any other university with lower fees and join the ROTC. U If we're arguing about private business exit options, UC Berkeley has way brand recognition in the private sector.
My dad was a sports nut in high school and got a three year sports scholarship. This was back in the 30s and his family had no money for college At the end of 3 years he was out of scholarship and luck. The university president offered to pay his tuition on a gentleman’s agreement if my dad would pay it back in 5 years My dad sold sandwiches in the dorm and worked during breaks and paid the president back on graduation day. That shows how much money and people have changed since then. He went into the reserves until he was called up in the war; he always had good memories of his Norwich days
Holy shit dude if your dad went to college in the 30s how are you still alive… my grandparents were all born in the 50s
@@MitchellLee-ej8kd Ему около 80 максимум.)
У меня отцу 74 года, а его отец закончил в 41 году.
I think you hit the wrong key on the num pad. You're father most likely was in during the 60's like my dad or in the 90's....
lol. I’m still alive because I haven’t hit 70 yet- there is still life after you get your be 25😂. My father was a member of the class of 1937 , got his commission in the reserves and called up when we were having problems with Hitler. I came along when he was 40, he was a great dad and grandfather, and still alive in my memory. You guys enjoy your young grandparents and being on the young side of 40. It won’t last forever 😂
A private military college with 200+ years of history. Interesting concept and good quality education.
As a Naval Academy grad and Marine infantry officer, some of the most impressive peers I have went to Norwich. VMI is a different story..
What's wrong with VMI or the Citadel?
@pwhales264 two words: Custer Syndrome. Officers obsessed with glory instead of proper leadership and offer lackluster and even dangerous leadership styles. Aggie here, (Texas A&M), and doing my time in our Corps of Cadets, we and Norwich seem to have a similar structure and standard of excellence. VMI and El Cid are notorious for having higher rates of hazing and incidences of nepotism in Cadet leadership than the other SMCs. Granted we have our problems as does Norwich but holy hell. The stories I've heard really showcase 2 different worlds.
@@210Caveman26 Thank you for that excellent explanation.
@@210Caveman26what about Virginia tech/VPI
@@bbm-140 Tech is similar to A&M as it was an SMC turned into a full-fledged co-ed university, as well as their Corps became optional like us. They honestly keep to themselves in terms of media presence and ROTC performance. But I've heard decent things.
Class of 76. Something’s have changed since my Rook year but the mission remains the. Welcome to the Norwich family
I went to Norwich for a 2 week intensive military leadership course during the summer run by Marine NCOs. Still have good stories from that time.
The video doesn't mention it, however, sure the school is expensive on paper, but the amount of scholarships and grants gifted to students from the school and alumni make enrollment much more feasible and possible for anyone that wants to take on the opportunity.
Can confirm --- many of these cadets are on ROTC scholarships and pay no tuition.
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I was gonna say, as a Financial Aid professional, I am almost certain most of these kids are at least 90% covered by the University
It’s expensive on paper because it is actually expensive. The students just don’t bear the cost. The taxpayer does. This university is scamming the government out of grant money. I’m not going to complain about the ROTC scholarship because that’s the same everywhere it’s the grants that’s the real problem. all the students could go to other schools and join an ROTC program for a fraction of the price.
@@djones1234567654321 more like 90% covered by the taxpayer. Most people probably don’t care about the ROTC scholarship, but I do have a real problem with the university scamming the government out of grant money.
@@mikej5959 I didn’t know that the taxpayers were all alumni? Many of these grants come from graduates who pay it forward. The school has one of the strongest alumni networks in the nation and many become donors.
When i came home from Iraq I got selected to be a summer instructor at USMA for Operation Highland Warrior. During the Company Defense phase we had yhe cadets dig two man fighting positions. We stopped the training so all of the cadets could file by the fighting position dug by a Norwich Cadet and her battle buddy. It was the best fighting position i had seen in a very long rime.
Were they scissoring?
Everyone is focusing on the tuition like most of the students don’t have large scholarships or service branch contracts with full rides 🤦🏻♂️
It’s still crazy because you can go sign up and get paid to do it 😂😂
How do they get it
Public college won't cost that much tho.
@@williemherbert1456 Out of state tuition at some public colleges can cost over 40k
@@Forester- thats nice? i rather that then get yelled at by pogs that havnt seen a day of real military service lol expecially with all these snobby women lol
Shout out to all the Norwich Cadre. They have a lot to do, and they deserve all the respect.
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Please do the United States Merchant Marine Academy next! They're the only US Service Academy still missing from the list!
Agree. when you graduate from the U.S.M.M.A. you can if there are open slots,the service branch you want.And as a deck or engineer officer in the Merchant Fleet,make big big bucks.
Yes! My dad went there and I don’t hear much of anything about it from anyone but him.
Ahhhhh. Good times.
Just keep everything shined and focus on what’s important (academics FIRST). It’s a great experience and one you won’t regret later in life. Essayons.
“Permission to touch?” How the hell else do you plan on measuring him?! That’s like a barber asking permission to touch…how do you plan on cutting my hair? The force?!
Imagine paying 47-50k to get yelled at when you can just join the army and get paid to get yelled at.
I guess it makes sense if you’re on a ROTC scholarship, otherwise ya it seems weird.
yeah well sure, however the Army ain't gonna give you a college education and some jobs in the military are only for officers (such as pilot). And if you say "but one can apply to OCS from the street for free", let me tell you that selection to OCS is very competitive from the street and still ain't easy from inside as enlisted. It really depends upon goals to determine which path makes the most sense for each person.
28 years the Army as an officer and I never met a single Norwich graduate.
I was in OBC with one back in 97. Ran into more NMI grads for sure
My grandfather graduated from Norwich in approximately 1916 and retired as a Major General in 1953.
I saw a survey that graduates from here are in the top 10% of income earners when established in their careers. This school stood out to me because it was mixed in with some very notable universities in the country. The return on investment is amazing for these kids.
It seems more likely that their incomes are inflated due to nepotism and generational wealth than the school's performance.
On an unrelated note, why do these dudes keep saying rook is short for recruit, when it is clearly short for "rookie"
@@AndrewDangerously Don't know for sure. However, a quick search on financial aid, says 96% of their students receive financial assistance from the school. Just on that data set alone, I find it hard to verify your position on generational wealth. Could be...
@@joeylynn1374 87% of all American college students get "some form" of financial aid, that doesn't somehow disprove nepotism.
@@AndrewDangerously It does not prove it either. You have the burden of proof to substantiate your position. Otherwise, you can't be trusted with anything you say. Ultimately, I really do not care.
@@AndrewDangerously I got a significant sum of money from the school, the rest is all in loans that I took out myself. No assistance from anyone else. I am very much not in the minority position on the campus, at the very least, not on the Corps of Cadets side of the school. Your ideology tends to hold slightly more true for the civilian students, but even then its a stretch
Norwich Forever, coming here gave me all sorts of opportunities I would’ve never had going anywhere else!
Bro casually dropped the best advice ever 3:18
I went to basic with a couple guys that went to military schools and they were far ahead of everyone else.
I did my first year there then enlisted...honestly basic was stupid easy for me after that!!! Even got Distinguished Honor Grad...ended up Airborne and Pathfinder Qualified as a squad leader 6 yrs later!!!
@@GAMES.GUNS.andLIFE that's awesome man, I talked to a recruiter and shipped off a few weeks later or so without knowing anything at all so basic was pretty rough for me at the age I was with no experience/maturity.
@@GAMES.GUNS.andLIFE I wish I had the experience in life to go to a military college.I bet it was a blast.
@AllenV-q8n it was a blast man, the good times, the bad times, the "growing up", the hazing...wouldn't have changed a thing, would've 100 percent done my year at Norwich then enlisted, AGAIN!!!
00:29 bro taking a rip from the brass
Jim black reference
It honestly smells good. I dunno about blanks but I have smelled like HE 155mm shells being fired smells immaculate
Dude. I knew I’d find you in the comments section. Love you brother.
Very good option for all Americans and foreign students who plan on a very highly disciplined and rigid education system without commitment to US Military service but instill the core of discipline for their entire lives.
"very highly disciplined and rigid education" doesn't mean quality.
Education is free in most civilised countries.
Passalacqua was one on my rook buddies back in 84
New military video ! My favorite so in depth and interesting to follow excellent narration and cinematography
"It's crazy how nice the people cutting hair are. I remember they almost gave us whiplash, and half the people left with a bloody head. It's wild how different the enlisted pipeline is from the officer pipeline.
I knew someone who went to Norwich. I was surprised they attended a Military School. After seeing this, I’m not surprised.
This is like a guaranteed way to graduate college
Discipline, physical capability, confidence building
Turning boys to men and girls to women
Better then cheap colleges that worry about emotions
This is way tougher than just going to a normal university and getting a degree.
These “students” are being trained to kill. Don’t confuse them with students. These are soldiers.
ya and its also almost 300k for 4 years. unless your rich not worth the debt at all.
@@VlonelyRed I have average intelligence, don't come from money and I got plenty of NU scholarships. I also landed an ROTC scholarship after I maintained a decent gpa for 2 semesters. I work hard. I now have less than 10k in debt left and I graduated NU somewhat recently. I made some of my best memories and best friends there. Plus i get to call beautiful Vermont home to my alma mater which is awesome coming from a boring flatland state out west. Worth it. Additionally, the Norwich network is worth its weight in gold with many different careers. Just work hard and do good things. God bless, NU forever.
which is why they have a 54% 4 year graduation rate...
Graham, keep these military videos coming! I love this series!
I haven't read all the comments, but not only does Norwich have the oldest ROTC program, but it is also well-known for providing the Army with many cavalry and later, armor officers, I.D. White, and Ernest Harmon among them.
Edited to add: They also used to have an on-line Masters and Doctoral program in military history, and may still.
Going to Norwich was one of the best decisions I’ve ever made. Essayons!
Norwich Forever! Class 2024
Hazing reported vs. Hazing done...words are powerful make sure you ask the right questions 😊
Class of 2000…changed my life, made me who I am today! NU forever!! ESSYONS!
Did you end up commisioning?
For those mentioning getting yelled at and paying $70k, most students actually receive full-ride scholarships. My nephew graduated from there years ago, and my brother didn’t pay a dime. It’s a fantastic opportunity, as graduates secure a position as an officer in the U.S. military.
That is cap, most students do not receive full-ride scholarships
The best way to be an officer IMO, in enlist and then later find a commissioning program. If you cant get into the academies.
After watching your military recruitment videos, I can definitely say it seems much easier to join the U.S. military as an officer compared to my country. Here, thousands compete for a handful of positions, and many applicants are already earning more than they would in the military.
Good on them I was in the army for 6 years enlisted and wish when I was younger I had the opportunity to do this.
9:37 thanks for the shout out 🤪
Those who are calling these men and women "LARPers" and insulting their dedication to this program, you simply do not get it. As a graduate of this institution and an Active Duty Air Force Officer, I can promise you that the reasons these individuals choose to come here are so much deeper than to "play soldier". They seek challenge. They seek a unique college experience. They seek camaraderie. And as someone who spent four years here, I can guarantee you they will find it and they will grow as individuals, and as the finest Officers the armed forces have.
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@@Discipleofthelordandjesus You're a merchant marine midshipman or whatever right? So you aren't going to be an officer in the military? Got it lol.
@@Discipleofthelordandjesusur so pressed
@@SkelatalmaniakUpon graduation ( next year) I will be either assigned active duty or guard component. Commissioning was never my intention. 😙
This is not boot-camp but a very disciplined academy.
Not sure why some negative comments. Most at this school commission and become successful military leaders. Others pay for school just like everyone else but leave with leadership and other skills and confidence that they can not learn from other universities.
Military leaderhip is not thesame as civvy.
When young officers go into the military, they have NCOs as a buffer between them and the ORs.
Some youngter out of that unie, going into a civvy career, trying to act like an officer, than a manager, will cause feck ups.
Well, they’re selling their bodies and souls to a corporate run country that doesn’t care about them under the guise of patriotism. You can learn leadership and confidence whether you go to school of any kind or not. They also look like dweebs.
@@tonycavanagh1929 this college is also not like west point, as they said, they for sure will have some mechanism to make them adapt to civ life.
@@oksowhat Some kid coming out all spit and polish, and no NCO to put them in there place, hold the leash, until they can walk by them selfs
I hope they are taught the difference between civvy teams and a military unit.
@@tonycavanagh1929 true
It is a fantastic school and education. I am beyond happy with my university education.
I can’t believe how out of shape some of these kids look. Back in the 1990’s they were called “Nintendo Babies” in boot camp. I blame the parents and hope this academy will change their lives in a good way. I know joining the Navy did me a ton of good.
Look at the state of cities and even towns in the US. Very little to no sidewalks, no bike lanes, not even decent public transport. When you're forced to drive everywhere and there's a fast food joint every few buildings... There's no investment in public health anymore
Honestly this is such a cool and unique school for military
I always thought that any military advertising must inspire potential participants, but not depress them.
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@BusinessInsider - do a video profiling the Corps of Cadets at Texas A&M. It is one of six Senior Military Colleges and has a full time uniformed cadet corps!
Going soon! Can’t wait!
"Permission to touch?" Does the PRC soldier ask that too? lmao
I went through basic training in the Canadian army. It is modelled on the British Army. No one yells at you ever but sometimes the drill people make you feel pretty small. It worked. I watched videos of US basic training. It looked wierd
I have so much respect for Norwich students! I have played against them often in Men’s Rugby and they remind me each time what intense training they have
The uncomfortable eating was the worst thing for me .... Even in jail your allowed to talk whilst eating 😂
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Yall need to go check out the best Corps of Cadets in the nation in College Station
Do frog week at ung!!!
Ha Ha try the VMI Ratline
Anyone remember that camp comedy , when the new recruits turn up at the front gate and the Sargent Major comes out and starts bawling and screaming " Right you 'orrible shower , drop yer cases and get in line !! Quickly ! Get a move on !! Let's have you ! " And one of the recruits just stands there and doesn't move .The sergent major comes running over screaming in his ear . The recruit says " I say old boy would you mind awfully not shouting too loudly ? I ve got this terrible headache ! I got a call from Jessic late last night ! Too many Pink Gins in the club don't you know !? Could you be a dear and get me some aspirin " Well the Seargent Major's face turned purple with rage just before his head exploded !
My Alma Mater class of ‘21
Was that Eagle Scout Hrabal?
If you not a total slacker tuition usually around 20 k a year and law enforcement heavily recruit from norwich.
20kx4= 80,000!? Just do the four years and get that GI Bill
Yo a lot of big talk in this comment section for people who are too weak to do it. I get it, 50K is a lot of money, but most of us have ROTC scholarships, and I can attest that the officers that this school produce are the finest in the US.
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I'm in the Canadian army and the training in this video is a joke.
This is kind of a scam considering how the United States Air Force trains you to be a leader in BMT. After that there's nothing but promotions to become an officer in every AFSC if you qualify.
Also a lot of career services and fairs for the federal agencies...
Best officers I had were prior enlisted
This place has been in so many movies it’s ridiculous 💯
"Rook" privileges is hazing in itself, but it's done by the school and not others.
I served with officer’s from there. Good men.
15:13 “working on a way to have 2 phone calls” what? 😂😂 do they gotta have a 2/3 majority US Senate vote just to allow these dudes to call both mommy and daddy on a Sunday?
Pretty much. One 10 min phone call on sundays during Rookdom. Usually shortened to 8 minutes thanks to Cadre of course.
I’m not lying when I say this, I’ve been to Norwich before but not for the college rather a Boy Scout camping trip. It was a windy one that’s for sure lol but they taught us like firing positions, I believe some marching but don’t remember since I was like 14-15 yrs old when I went there but the best part was when they had us do the repeal tower. That was FUN! Everyone I saw went down so slow lol I went down quick. Lowkey wish I can do all that again but it was awesome when I did it
Damn I went here for only 1 year in 2020 got recognized in march 2021 and in all honesty that was one of the worst times in my life and everyday I was there was just pure pain. But it was also one of the best times in a weird way too 😂
They have so many decorations they look like soviet officers
I can’t relate to anyone who would do this willingly…
It sucks your freshman year but after that its not bad, really teaches you how to be a leader and builds self confidence
If Disney had a full metal jacket version
I’m not sure if it’s mentioned, but there is a civilian population of students at Norwich as well. Some of them are even in the ROTC.
Yup. Roughly 1/3 population is civilian. Very few civilian students in ROTC but there are a few here and there.
Do they play Rugby in the USA ? I never knew that ! You learn something new everyday !
When are y'all covering Texas A&M, the largest senior military college in the nation?
Would love a SMC series followed by Service Academies. Cheers to my Texas brothers
Glad I went to US Air Force BMT instead. Got paid to be bitched at by MTIs and got paid from my civy job at the same time! Honestly, I believe PRIOR SERVICE enlisted experience SHOULD push commissioned officer candidates to the TOP of the applicant pool!
Some NASTY looking, UNSAT mustaches on the upper classmen here...
covers in the building is crazy to me
I truly don't understand the point of these schools. You are paying ridiculous amounts of money to get yelled at by civilians who are just further into their schooling. If you then go onto join the military, yes, the discipline & military customs will help initially, basic training would have taught you that anyway.
The strong need a place to work away from the weak
@@yeetdude7560No. Norwich is where the rejected ( all the other military academies) go to feel accepted.
@@Discipleofthelordandjesus you can say that about literally any SMC. Your point? Even West Point cadets have told people they’d rather have gone to Norwich than West Point (from the horses mouth).
It is a fasttrack to officer and leadership roles. So if your goal is to become a general this is the quicker path towards that.
@@Discipleofthelordandjesus hold up, you've posted on most comments just talking shit, so where is your experience coming from?
Bro the guy huffing the blank☠️☠️
Imagine seeing that in formation 😂
Seems strange to most people, but I'm sure there's a small percentage that this is a positive experience for. I'm sure most people wouldn't enjoy going to the Christian university I went to, but it was amazing for me.
Wow… this school looks bad ass. We should go. BV, AW, VL 💪
Why are the rooks dressed like Forrest Gump?
Letting children scream at other children and then being surprised that abuse occurs is really pathetic. The entire school system is structured in such a way that such incidents are bound to occur, the few cases that come to public attention are just the tip of the iceberg. The whole thing has nothing to do with military training or general education. For the perpetrators it is later the best time of their lives, the victims are usually silent. None of this makes them better officers nor does it contribute to their education.
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If they are 18 years old, they are not children, they are adults. We need to STOP infantilizing young adults.
@Bellthorian A nation that doesn't trust an 18-year-old to handle beer responsibly, but thinks he's mature enough to go to war, would generally have to rethink its own classifications. On the subject, I have hardly met a teenager in my life who was mature enough to be trusted with human life. Furthermore, regardless of this, organizations that have an overly elitist self-image and false choral spirit are not only extremely vulnerable to abuse (there are endless examples in the history of humanity all over the world), they are actually always 40% hot air, 40% Arrogance and 20% nepotism. If I were serious, ten times out of ten I would follow someone who has learned their craft from the ground up instead of a "ring bearer".
(timestamp 13:02) Yea simply jogging won't cut it. If you want to prepare for sessions like that (which can never be a true 100%), doing anaerobic routines and High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT) will go much better.
Thanks Jocko
3:20 why didn't they shave this rook?
also why pay 47 Gs when you can do this at Annapolis for free?
MEEEEEERICA. MILITARY.
Ive never understood sometimes in all the branches of our Military when students show up for boot camp that they show up completely out of shape.If I new I was going to boot camp I would try to be in a little bit of shape.These kids are way to young to be this out of shape.
The amount of keyboard warriors in this comments section is truly astounding.
@@davidlynch5516 probably because you've got a bunch of people here just trying to shit on Norwich for no good reason
Social media in a nutshell
Congratulations there’s always a clown that thinks it’s a flex to call out “keyboard warrior” as if you have made a bold statement 🤡🤡🤡🤡
They got a football team too. If you thought military school was nuts, imagine playing football at the same time.
The football team ain’t all that good, though
Watching this as a marine 😭
0:05 Nice to see you again Gage!
Climb to Conquer!
When I just want to get Dunkin but all the rooks are there….
2:35 wow that sounds/looks stupid.