Are you linked to the Smart Home Sounds shop in England? I just got my first Sonos product the Sonos Ace headphones, even with all the negative reviews I saw. I must say I’m really loving the headphones. I actually bought a set of B&O H95 used headphones but the Sonos just felt more right for me. Made me realise headphones are such a personal choice.
You've missed one very important feature, that's applicable to all new Sonos speakers - and that's Dolby Atmos music support for Tidal. Sonos offers Atmos support for Amazon and Apple Music on the Era 300, why not Tidal too? This will be a dealbreaker for me on an Arc 2.
I've had nothing but trouble with my sonos arc and I've tried everything to fix it with no luck. I've changed the cables twice, I've upgraded the software I've reset my sub my sonos 3 rear speakers my play 5 on and sperate amp. But the sonos system stops working in the middle of a show it blacks out my tv video and i need to shut it off and disconnect the arc cable to the tv and play my audio thru my tv speakers and everything plays fine. but I've spent thousands of dollars for surround sound and i have these troubles. This is not good.
Love my Arc/Sub/Era 300 set up but if Sonos really want people to use these instead of dedicated receiver/surround speakers they really need to add DTS-HD and DTS X support. Some older movies realeased on 4K Blu-ray now only have DTS-HD soundtracks so you cannot benefit from the enhanced audio at all. This is the biggest fail in my opinion. I just don't understand why they do not support it. Make it a payable upgrade if they must.
Hello,please i really need your opinion i want to ask you if it's worth upgrading or no. I have sonos beam gen 2 + sub mini + 2 Sonos one gen2..is it worth it to upgrade just sonos beam gen 2 to arc? And is it actually good sonos arc with sub mini or should i change also sub mini with sub gen 3? I really want a lot of base should i keep my sonos beam gen 2 and replace my sub mini with sonos sub gen 3? It will make a huge huge difference?! Or can i connect to sub? Like sub mini and sub gen 3 together with sonos beam gen 2?
Definitely not worth the full price had mine for a few years. Never really been blown away with the sound. Yes it’s good but for me I’ve heard better soundbars that can separate the sounds better and my main gripe is the centre channel, I’ve truplayed and adjusted settings speech enhancement etc but always find the dialogue poor, quiet, the amount times I’ve had to up the sound to hear the voices and then the loud sounds are just too loud can never get a decent balance… For me the next ARC needs 1. Better centre channel with control 2. Bluetooth 3. Remote control
Your comment on dialogue is finally an answer I have been looking for in the Arc. I am on the fence for buying one. I am really just looking for a great sound bar for the dialogue. I currently have a Zvox SB500 and am partially satisfied. I feel at times it sounds tinny/treblely. I was hoping the Arc would be an improvement but no one other than you really comments on the dialogue aspect.
This is a terrible review, I came here to get a review on whether to buy one or not, and I find you talking about something else that doesn't even exist!
Can you use the arc/era100/sub mini with AirPlay2 for Music? I would like to buy the systeem for cinema but also for music through an iPhone via airplay2
I hope they do an Arc Gen 2 with the next features: 1. HDMI ports (with Dolby Vision and HDR10+ passthrough) 2. DTS-HD and DTS:X codec support 3. A remote control. Yes, keep it simple. No need to go into smartphone to do everything in our lifes. The app should be only for advancement options What else would you add :O?
I'm lost as to why you want dolby vision and hdr10+ pass through in the arc? That's video not audio? Do want to go into the arc and picture out to the tv??..... but absolutely agree on DTSx and HD. Except my TV doesn't support dts passthrough.
@@jb7753 If the soundbar has more then 1 hdmi port for input and you connecting the source (like apple tv/consoles/blueray players) directly to the soundbar and then to the tv then the soundbar has to have hdr10 or dolby vision pass through, or you may not get those format video playing on your tv or will convert those video to lower supported format by soundbar to the tv.
I’d love to see at least the Sonos Arc, Samsung Q990C, and Sony HT-A7000. All paired with the highest ends subs and rear speakers. Would also appreciate to show to exact setup and exact settings used for each setup in the roundup video.
+1 for Bluetooth. The lack of it on their sound bars is THE thing keeping me from the purchase. I have a few needs that are covered by my current sound bar via bluetooth that would be gone if I moved to Sonos.
I can understand Sonos thinking with Bluetooth doesn't have the bandwidth compared to Wi-fi for full audio capability of the Arc system. It would be like having a 4K 77" OLED TV and connecting an old 480p VCR player with a yellow/red/white component cable.
I’m thinking of buying this system for my tv and to play music on my iphone (apple music). I’m not familiar with all the technical terms. When you say that the sonos arc does not have bluetooth, how would i be able to connect the sonos eras to it? Also, if it does not have bluetooth does it mean i can’t play music from my iphone on it ? Thanks!
What shall I get, if I want an easy to setup, wireless back speakers, 5.1.2 setup for a small room, budget is like 2-2.5k? thank you for any help and opinions
I'm not sure what's the problem with one arc port if it's a good one? It outputs any audio from the TV? Then you have Bluetooth if you want to use phone Spotify. Honestly if this speaker plus sub was like $1200 for both it wouod be flying off the shelves. And it should be considering how old the tech is now. Great sound, low tech.
I wouldn't have a tv with only one hdmi port if i did i would most likely upgrade my tv to one that had 3 or 4 hdmi ports Overall the versatility of the speakers is better than just the other soundbars within a package. ( Samsung q990c is alright but i just like the premium ecosystem products that sonos has for audio listening just with Apple and their premium ecosystem tech) its just like that!
I agree , a new Arc will probably be the same with some extra proces power but not much else. I am still in doubt between the Sennheiser ambeo plus or an Arc. Unfortunately the Sennheiser has no physical surround speakers which is holding me back. But maybe in the future 🙃
For me, for my space, I looked at several - Polk, Sennheiser, Sony and Sonos. Sonos sounded the best (to me), but I could not justify the additional cost for the sub, which I personally feel you need for all of these soundbars (was not looking at the Sennheiser Max, it's just too big). I ended up with the Bluesound Pulse Plus. It sounds as good as any of the ones I listed, and you can add any powered 3rd party sub. I paired it with a 10" Yamaha, simple plug and play, the Pulse has a crossover of 80Hz, this thing "kicks butt"...
I’m getting the arc here shortly, had a question. Most of my movies run through my Xbox. With the arc only having one hdmi port will that affect the way my movies sound or atmos. If the movies I’m watching are on my Xbox?? Or will I need to have another plug splitting to the sound bar?
Would love to see: - Some kind of "one connect box" with HDMI eARC for the back of the TV so you can skip the HDMI cable to the ARC - Full DTS support (and even more Codecs) - Upgraded Speakers (more tweeters, bigger woofers) - Front Speaker support (front left and front right) so you can have 4 separate satellite (4x ERA 100/300) speakers plus the ARC plus two SUB. :)
I have the Arc/dual subs/Fives at one end of a rectangular great room 20'X44' and a Beam/sub/One SLs in a 14'X20' Office. Both have 10' ceilings and seem to fit the space perfectly. I think the Arc would be too large for the smaller office space and I don't think I would get full Atmos with my back against the wall and the surrounds 1-2 feet away on either side of a small sofa?
All these comments are mainly pertaining to cinema. Is this a good purchase for sports and music? I’ll watch an occasional movie but buying this won’t be for that reason
I have the Arc/dual subs/Fives for LG OLED 77C1. Xfinity uses for Dolby 5.1 cable TV, Atmos movies with Netflix, music (not into Atmos music), and sports. Sounds fantastic with the different audio sources. Notice some sports program and commentary leans heavy on L/R stereo; but, background music and crowd noise is in 5.1. The Sonos system does a much better job, less adjustments, more flexibility, and sounds noticeably better with the differently types of audio compared to my Nakamichi 7.2.4 I had before.
I have had it with the One SL's and Sub Gen 2 since 2020 and it is great! I do think getting the Era 300's as surrounds would elevate my experience ten fold! Maybe during Christmas!
If you do get the ERA 300 just make your room is enclosed. I bought them in March and returned them back to Sonos in April. Reason one of the ERA 300 if it’s display to an open concept living room there no sound bouncing off any walls. I have ARC / Sub Gen 2 / ERA 100 (2) ✌️
I added the 300 as surrounds upgraded from play 1s. Arc and 2 subs. Best thing I could of done. So much more room filling and clarity. Added to the music playback as well.
@@Rigue2021you are absolutely right. I tried Arc, sub gen 3 and two era. I changed them to 2 eras. Being directional, I think it gives better sound in an open space.
I’m waiting for an updated version, or new product to fill it’s place, just hope it’s early 2024 because I doubt they’ll be releasing anything else this year 😂
@@HTadd1ct Just gott pay 3-4 x the amount and need 3-4 times the room. People looking at soundbars aren't the same audience as those building full home theatres.
My brother owns the Sonos arc with two subs and two era 300 as surround and it sounds amazing but I was lucky enough to experience the sound of the Nakamichi dragon and oh boy oh boy what an amazing system. It sounds way better than Sonos arc. I really hope that in a a future you can compare the Sonos and the Nakamichi. That will be an interesting video to watch.
By the time you add up the costs of Sonos Arc, sub, pair of 300s, Dragon is definitely not 3 times more. To do Sonos right, you seriously need to consider a few bucks more for the Dragon setup IMO. I’d love a new Sonos system but I have the top of the line Nakamichi prior to the Dragon and it rocks! Can’t even imagine the latest.
I'm disappointed in the left/right separation in my arc/ones/sub gen 3 setup. I have windows to one side and glazed room divider the other, so should be a pretty good environment. Therefore I want the option to add (say) ones as real left/right channels that work in tandem with the arc channels. Now that could sound really good.
That's just one of the many reasons never buy a soundbar. I'll offer you this solution. Sit like 4 feet away and you may get some seperation from the left and right.
We NEED self tuning like my Sonos era 300 has so I don't need an iPhone. That takes away one of THE key functionalities. And it's also why I've never bought any of the other Sonos products cause they all need an iPhone which is absolutely terrible for getting your product to everyone, by limiting app and device functionality. The beam Gen 2 isn't good enough and ALSO needs an iPhone for tuning, for me I need an arc gen 2 ASAP.
Not necessarily a Soundbar upgrade but I'd like to be able to add some more surrounds, perhaps if the new processing in a new version could drive this? in my lounge the surround effect only works with one sofa, the other two seater misses out....
Every 1 needs to read this, soundbars don’t work for upfiring for dolby atmos, none work, you need a amp and ceiling speakers, speakers on stands or in corners not the same, i got a Sony soundbar would blow that to bits and the upfiring dont work for dolby atmos, waist of money
@@snowbound3469 the easy and best way is get av receiver with front/rear speakers, the back top corners, upfiring speakers are fake never work, plus got Sonos 300s upfiring the same
The side facing speakers are for surround and the upward firing speakers are for Atmos. The Arc is a good solution if you don't want additional speakers around the room or want limited speaker/power wires. The Arc isn't for you if the outward speakers don't work for your needs.
@@mrgold3591 sure Atmos can reliably bounce of the ceilings, but unless you have a left and right wall boxing in your TV, those side speakers are just puking a mess all over the room.
For anyone thinking about buying the arc and only using it as a soundbar it is absolutely 110% not worth the money! The arc alone is definitely not worth the price it goes for. BUT if you pair it up with a sub and rears it 100% definitely is worth it. It sounds soooo much better when paired up with a sub, and even better if rears are added.
In the market for a soundbar that'd go well with a 55" Samsung QD-OLED for a studio apartment space. I know the Arc is now outdated, but what options are there for below
I have had one for years and it sucks. I don’t know why it got high makes. It only really supports Dolby formats. It has only one hdmi port. I don’t know what the problem is my Samsung eARC tv, Apple TV and the arc, but every so often when apple updates the software it causes issues either the audio. From everything not Atmos playing in Stereo PCM, or if the audio plays in 5.1 it randomly skips and repeats. This sound bar sucks. On another setup with a Sony atmos soundbar I don’t have these problems and the Sony natively supports and plays damn near all formats. SONOS WHY DONT YOU SUPPORT DTS???? Everyone isn’t steaming crap from Netflix!!!!
Thanks for the comment, Sonos does now support DTS. www.theverge.com/2021/11/17/22786914/sonos-dts-audio-support-beam-playbar-playbase-arc-amp-battery-saver-mode-13-4-update
Dragon is a custom made product that is only sold and available in the USA from Nakaimichi directly. You need to pay $3899 upfront then wait 4 months to receive your dragon.
It would be nice if they came out with a new Beam but it would act as a center speaker and then you could add four 300's as left, right, surround left and surround right. Plus have 2 or 3 hdmi inputs. This will give you the ability to space out the left and right to the size of your tv or room. I would the capability of using a Sub and a Mini Sub at the same time, Sub for lower register and the Mini for the upper register.
Bought the arc yesterday, not impressed!! Used Trueplay and tv has earc, have to turn it up more than I did with my tv speakers!!! Zero height as everything seems to be coming from the front.Ceiling is flat and not high, not happy with the arc at all.
The ARC looks good but sounds pretty bad (weak dialogue, anemic sound). I had to go with the Beam 2 because it sounded better in A/B testing in my setup. I'm looking forward to an ARC 2 release to correct the issues of the first generation.
I had to set my LG OLED TV to bitstream/pass through for the eArc port instead of Auto/PCM. Setting to bitstream lets the soundbar do the sound processing instead of the TV. The TV might send PCM in stereo or 5.1 depending on the shows audio. Dialogue will be weak if the soundbar doesn't get the center channel or rear surrounds with a stereo L/R only PCM signal.
I just upgraded from the beam 2 to the arc myself, made a huge difference.. Some things I would like to see.. 1. Software update that allows you to add a pair of left and right speakers to the front .. they say the 300 rears make the system a 7.1.4 so imagine the possibilities of being able to add the fronts.. 11.xx🤔 2. more adjustments for the sound bar, they allow more adjustments for the rears so why not allow similar adjustments for the fronts
I don't think adding additional fronts would be useful given it already has side firing and upfiring speakers. I think having rear and surround speakers would be more beneficial. I also think you should be able to add multiple pairs of ceiling speakers to make a true atmos system.
What makes Sonos such a strong proposition (having been in Bose echo system before) is the quality of all their offerings independently but also in the integration aspect too. You get a great cinematic experience and sub gen 3 is a top performer in terms of bass with next to no distortion. It beats more costly cinema separates...making is a great solution....
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Rude to just change the title to 2024
Maybe he just forgot what year he was in on the video lol
Picked up a SL from Costco for $499. I couldn't say no at that price.
Are you linked to the Smart Home Sounds shop in England? I just got my first Sonos product the Sonos Ace headphones, even with all the negative reviews I saw. I must say I’m really loving the headphones. I actually bought a set of B&O H95 used headphones but the Sonos just felt more right for me. Made me realise headphones are such a personal choice.
Just got one through fb marketplace for $500 to replace my beam gen 1!
You've missed one very important feature, that's applicable to all new Sonos speakers - and that's Dolby Atmos music support for Tidal. Sonos offers Atmos support for Amazon and Apple Music on the Era 300, why not Tidal too? This will be a dealbreaker for me on an Arc 2.
It worth every penny.
I've had nothing but trouble with my sonos arc and I've tried everything to fix it with no luck. I've changed the cables twice, I've upgraded the software I've reset my sub my sonos 3 rear speakers my play 5 on and sperate amp. But the sonos system stops working in the middle of a show it blacks out my tv video and i need to shut it off and disconnect the arc cable to the tv and play my audio thru my tv speakers and everything plays fine. but I've spent thousands of dollars for surround sound and i have these troubles. This is not good.
Oh shit, did the warranty cover a replacement?
Have just ordered an arc with 2 Era 300’s so my -play bar with 1’s go to my bedroom
I'm waiting for the ARC 2
Arc v2 and Era 500!
Love my Arc/Sub/Era 300 set up but if Sonos really want people to use these instead of dedicated receiver/surround speakers they really need to add DTS-HD and DTS X support. Some older movies realeased on 4K Blu-ray now only have DTS-HD soundtracks so you cannot benefit from the enhanced audio at all. This is the biggest fail in my opinion. I just don't understand why they do not support it. Make it a payable upgrade if they must.
Oh look he just changed the title. You even say 2023 multiple times in the video. Shameful.
So…. What’s the prediction on when you think gen 2 might come out
Hello,please i really need your opinion i want to ask you if it's worth upgrading or no.
I have sonos beam gen 2 + sub mini + 2 Sonos one gen2..is it worth it to upgrade just sonos beam gen 2 to arc? And is it actually good sonos arc with sub mini or should i change also sub mini with sub gen 3? I really want a lot of base should i keep my sonos beam gen 2 and replace my sub mini with sonos sub gen 3? It will make a huge huge difference?!
Or can i connect to sub? Like sub mini and sub gen 3 together with sonos beam gen 2?
Definitely not worth the full price had mine for a few years. Never really been blown away with the sound. Yes it’s good but for me I’ve heard better soundbars that can separate the sounds better and my main gripe is the centre channel, I’ve truplayed and adjusted settings speech enhancement etc but always find the dialogue poor, quiet, the amount times I’ve had to up the sound to hear the voices and then the loud sounds are just too loud can never get a decent balance…
For me the next ARC needs
1. Better centre channel with control
2. Bluetooth
3. Remote control
Your comment on dialogue is finally an answer I have been looking for in the Arc. I am on the fence for buying one. I am really just looking for a great sound bar for the dialogue. I currently have a Zvox SB500 and am partially satisfied. I feel at times it sounds tinny/treblely. I was hoping the Arc would be an improvement but no one other than you really comments on the dialogue aspect.
I will upgrade my home theater in the next year so I will definitely look forward to Arc 2!
This is a terrible review, I came here to get a review on whether to buy one or not, and I find you talking about something else that doesn't even exist!
Can you use the arc/era100/sub mini with AirPlay2 for Music?
I would like to buy the systeem for cinema but also for music through an iPhone via airplay2
I hope they do an Arc Gen 2 with the next features:
1. HDMI ports (with Dolby Vision and HDR10+ passthrough)
2. DTS-HD and DTS:X codec support
3. A remote control. Yes, keep it simple. No need to go into smartphone to do everything in our lifes. The app should be only for advancement options
What else would you add :O?
I would add also Bluethooth
You can control the volume with your tv remote with HDMI-CEC enabled. I use a Fire TV cube which controls the sound via remote control perfectly.
I'm lost as to why you want dolby vision and hdr10+ pass through in the arc? That's video not audio? Do want to go into the arc and picture out to the tv??..... but absolutely agree on DTSx and HD. Except my TV doesn't support dts passthrough.
Remote indeed well said 👏 i do have arc i wish it came with remote with simple features such as night mode, speech enhancement, trueplay on/off.
@@jb7753 If the soundbar has more then 1 hdmi port for input and you connecting the source (like apple tv/consoles/blueray players) directly to the soundbar and then to the tv then the soundbar has to have hdr10 or dolby vision pass through, or you may not get those format video playing on your tv or will convert those video to lower supported format by soundbar to the tv.
I’d love to see at least the Sonos Arc, Samsung Q990C, and Sony HT-A7000. All paired with the highest ends subs and rear speakers. Would also appreciate to show to exact setup and exact settings used for each setup in the roundup video.
thats going to be epic
Any thoughts of Sonos separating the front channels to get a better left, center, and right channel, i.e. the Sony HT A-9?
+1 for Bluetooth. The lack of it on their sound bars is THE thing keeping me from the purchase. I have a few needs that are covered by my current sound bar via bluetooth that would be gone if I moved to Sonos.
I can understand Sonos thinking with Bluetooth doesn't have the bandwidth compared to Wi-fi for full audio capability of the Arc system. It would be like having a 4K 77" OLED TV and connecting an old 480p VCR player with a yellow/red/white component cable.
I’m thinking of buying this system for my tv and to play music on my iphone (apple music). I’m not familiar with all the technical terms. When you say that the sonos arc does not have bluetooth, how would i be able to connect the sonos eras to it? Also, if it does not have bluetooth does it mean i can’t play music from my iphone on it ? Thanks!
It connects to your wifi and as long as your phone is connected to that same wifi you can connect through your phone to it.
What shall I get, if I want an easy to setup, wireless back speakers, 5.1.2 setup for a small room, budget is like 2-2.5k? thank you for any help and opinions
I'm not sure what's the problem with one arc port if it's a good one? It outputs any audio from the TV? Then you have Bluetooth if you want to use phone Spotify. Honestly if this speaker plus sub was like $1200 for both it wouod be flying off the shelves. And it should be considering how old the tech is now. Great sound, low tech.
License for Dolby Atmos formats only... one HDMI Port only... That's pathetic given the price
I wouldn't have a tv with only one hdmi port if i did i would most likely upgrade my tv to one that had 3 or 4 hdmi ports
Overall the versatility of the speakers is better than just the other soundbars within a package. ( Samsung q990c is alright but i just like the premium ecosystem products that sonos has for audio listening just with Apple and their premium ecosystem tech) its just like that!
I know the arc doesn’t have 4K pass through, but will my sony OLED still display 4K content /Dolby vision on Netflix Disney plus max? Etc…
yes
Is the Sonos Arc still a great option in 2024? I see them now for around 800€ here in Germany 🤔
You NEVER EVER answer anyone’s questions? Are you a UA-camr or salesman??
Samsung HW-Q995C/990C is better. Own both
This soundbar is a good sound bar "but" so much is missing with this soundbar so this makes it a mid pack offering. To Bad really.
I just purchased one I wasn’t impressed especially at that high price
I agree , a new Arc will probably be the same with some extra proces power but not much else. I am still in doubt between the Sennheiser ambeo plus or an Arc. Unfortunately the Sennheiser has no physical surround speakers which is holding me back. But maybe in the future 🙃
They are coming Q4 😘
@@S1mmz neh , have not heard any news about that
@@remco3819No news yet, but keep an eye later this month or early September for an announcement ;)
Ambeo plus sounds 100 times better than the arc. Too back they don’t offer rear speakers.
@@d1nicoyaIn what way?
When is the video about best Soundbars coming out?
This is such a SONOS fanboy channel
Gush I thought exactly.
Is that a bad thing?
I mean it's a very good experience. Not the best, but for a simple wireless solution it's great!
For me, for my space, I looked at several - Polk, Sennheiser, Sony and Sonos. Sonos sounded the best (to me), but I could not justify the additional cost for the sub, which I personally feel you need for all of these soundbars (was not looking at the Sennheiser Max, it's just too big). I ended up with the Bluesound Pulse Plus. It sounds as good as any of the ones I listed, and you can add any powered 3rd party sub. I paired it with a 10" Yamaha, simple plug and play, the Pulse has a crossover of 80Hz, this thing "kicks butt"...
I’m getting the arc here shortly, had a question. Most of my movies run through my Xbox. With the arc only having one hdmi port will that affect the way my movies sound or atmos. If the movies I’m watching are on my Xbox?? Or will I need to have another plug splitting to the sound bar?
So long as your tv has eARC or ARC via hdmi then everything will sync as if its your tv speakers
Would love to see:
- Some kind of "one connect box" with HDMI eARC for the back of the TV so you can skip the HDMI cable to the ARC
- Full DTS support (and even more Codecs)
- Upgraded Speakers (more tweeters, bigger woofers)
- Front Speaker support (front left and front right) so you can have 4 separate satellite (4x ERA 100/300) speakers plus the ARC plus two SUB. :)
Gee you haven't thought about this much hey! ;)
It boggles my mind, a high end sound bar like this doesn’t have DTS…. Ultimately it’s why I’ve passed on many soundbars such as the ARC…
Updated, and now it does have dts👍🏻
Arc vs Beam gen 2 value for money in 2024.?
Should I buy the arc or the beam? My living room is 13' 8" x 24' 6 1/5"
I have the Arc/dual subs/Fives at one end of a rectangular great room 20'X44' and a Beam/sub/One SLs in a 14'X20' Office. Both have 10' ceilings and seem to fit the space perfectly. I think the Arc would be too large for the smaller office space and I don't think I would get full Atmos with my back against the wall and the surrounds 1-2 feet away on either side of a small sofa?
All these comments are mainly pertaining to cinema. Is this a good purchase for sports and music? I’ll watch an occasional movie but buying this won’t be for that reason
I have the Arc/dual subs/Fives for LG OLED 77C1. Xfinity uses for Dolby 5.1 cable TV, Atmos movies with Netflix, music (not into Atmos music), and sports. Sounds fantastic with the different audio sources. Notice some sports program and commentary leans heavy on L/R stereo; but, background music and crowd noise is in 5.1. The Sonos system does a much better job, less adjustments, more flexibility, and sounds noticeably better with the differently types of audio compared to my Nakamichi 7.2.4 I had before.
I have had it with the One SL's and Sub Gen 2 since 2020 and it is great! I do think getting the Era 300's as surrounds would elevate my experience ten fold! Maybe during Christmas!
If you do get the ERA 300 just make your room is enclosed. I bought them in March and returned them back to Sonos in April. Reason one of the ERA 300 if it’s display to an open concept living room there no sound bouncing off any walls.
I have ARC / Sub Gen 2 / ERA 100 (2)
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I added the 300 as surrounds upgraded from play 1s. Arc and 2 subs. Best thing I could of done. So much more room filling and clarity. Added to the music playback as well.
@@dwainewilliams8300how do you have the 300's mounted?
@@Rigue2021you are absolutely right. I tried Arc, sub gen 3 and two era. I changed them to 2 eras. Being directional, I think it gives better sound in an open space.
Also all their sound speakers be dolby atmos
I’m waiting for an updated version, or new product to fill it’s place, just hope it’s early 2024 because I doubt they’ll be releasing anything else this year 😂
Yes. There’s nothing to touch it 🍻
Try an av receiver. Sonos won't touch it!
@@HTadd1ct Just gott pay 3-4 x the amount and need 3-4 times the room. People looking at soundbars aren't the same audience as those building full home theatres.
My brother owns the Sonos arc with two subs and two era 300 as surround and it sounds amazing but I was lucky enough to experience the sound of the Nakamichi dragon and oh boy oh boy what an amazing system. It sounds way better than Sonos arc. I really hope that in a a future you can compare the Sonos and the Nakamichi. That will be an interesting video to watch.
Isn't Nakamichi dragon 3x more expensive, wouldn't really be a fair comparison
How he described his brother's system, the Dragon is about 800-1000$ more, so not that far off.@@decentrob8126
Yes Nakamichi is much better soundwise, not even close. Sonos sounds like a toy compared to Nakamichi. And i own Sonos.
By the time you add up the costs of Sonos Arc, sub, pair of 300s, Dragon is definitely not 3 times more. To do Sonos right, you seriously need to consider a few bucks more for the Dragon setup IMO. I’d love a new Sonos system but I have the top of the line Nakamichi prior to the Dragon and it rocks! Can’t even imagine the latest.
You should compare it to the Samsung 900c
I notice I ain’t hear Bose at all l.
I'm disappointed in the left/right separation in my arc/ones/sub gen 3 setup. I have windows to one side and glazed room divider the other, so should be a pretty good environment. Therefore I want the option to add (say) ones as real left/right channels that work in tandem with the arc channels. Now that could sound really good.
We would love to see this feature added as well! It would help in so many setups
That's just one of the many reasons never buy a soundbar.
I'll offer you this solution. Sit like 4 feet away and you may get some seperation from the left and right.
@@HTadd1ctWhat kind of audio setup do you suggest?
I Have Beam 2 with 2* one gen 2 plus submini. Arc or Era 300?
We NEED self tuning like my Sonos era 300 has so I don't need an iPhone. That takes away one of THE key functionalities. And it's also why I've never bought any of the other Sonos products cause they all need an iPhone which is absolutely terrible for getting your product to everyone, by limiting app and device functionality. The beam Gen 2 isn't good enough and ALSO needs an iPhone for tuning, for me I need an arc gen 2 ASAP.
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1000 bucks used with the gen 3 sub. Worth it?
Very well produced video, keep up the great work!
He is wrong dolby atmos don’t work on soundbars never will,
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Not necessarily a Soundbar upgrade but I'd like to be able to add some more surrounds, perhaps if the new processing in a new version could drive this? in my lounge the surround effect only works with one sofa, the other two seater misses out....
The sennheiser for me great channel though thanks 👍
Did you buy both of these?
@@Anthony-fw2gk I bought the sennheiser mini it’s very good but I will be buying Ambeo plus because the mini is a little too small for my living room.
Would like to see Bose 900 in your ultimate sound bar comparison
Can I connect this sound bar with sonos move2
Every 1 needs to read this, soundbars don’t work for upfiring for dolby atmos, none work, you need a amp and ceiling speakers, speakers on stands or in corners not the same, i got a Sony soundbar would blow that to bits and the upfiring dont work for dolby atmos, waist of money
What Sony?
@@snowbound3469 sony jt-st5000 its a beast with dolby atmos, but atmos never never works on anything
@@snowbound3469 the easy and best way is get av receiver with front/rear speakers, the back top corners, upfiring speakers are fake never work, plus got Sonos 300s upfiring the same
Hey smart home sounds is the sonos better than the bose 900
Does this fit under the X95L? And should I buy this or the hta5000 given u have a Sony tv? Very confused 😅
why on God's green earth are the tweeters aimed out? Oh jeeze, these soundbars are just absurd
The side facing speakers are for surround and the upward firing speakers are for Atmos. The Arc is a good solution if you don't want additional speakers around the room or want limited speaker/power wires. The Arc isn't for you if the outward speakers don't work for your needs.
@@mrgold3591 sure Atmos can reliably bounce of the ceilings, but unless you have a left and right wall boxing in your TV, those side speakers are just puking a mess all over the room.
@@DCUPtoejuice That is exactly the set up I have.
Samsung 990c or sonos?
Also what about the popping sound you get from the arc which some say
They’ve just recently patched it
sony ht a9 should be included
Samsung q990C
For anyone thinking about buying the arc and only using it as a soundbar it is absolutely 110% not worth the money! The arc alone is definitely not worth the price it goes for. BUT if you pair it up with a sub and rears it 100% definitely is worth it. It sounds soooo much better when paired up with a sub, and even better if rears are added.
great review
In the market for a soundbar that'd go well with a 55" Samsung QD-OLED for a studio apartment space.
I know the Arc is now outdated, but what options are there for below
I have had one for years and it sucks. I don’t know why it got high makes. It only really supports Dolby formats. It has only one hdmi port. I don’t know what the problem is my Samsung eARC tv, Apple TV and the arc, but every so often when apple updates the software it causes issues either the audio. From everything not Atmos playing in Stereo PCM, or if the audio plays in 5.1 it randomly skips and repeats. This sound bar sucks. On another setup with a Sony atmos soundbar I don’t have these problems and the Sony natively supports and plays damn near all formats. SONOS WHY DONT YOU SUPPORT DTS???? Everyone isn’t steaming crap from Netflix!!!!
Thanks for the comment, Sonos does now support DTS. www.theverge.com/2021/11/17/22786914/sonos-dts-audio-support-beam-playbar-playbase-arc-amp-battery-saver-mode-13-4-update
Any chance you guys getting the dragon in from the states?
Dragon can only be ordered directly from Nakamichi. It's only in the US where you can buy from a 3rd party retailer - and even here I may be wrong.
Dragon is a custom made product that is only sold and available in the USA from Nakaimichi directly. You need to pay $3899 upfront then wait 4 months to receive your dragon.
@@MrBjorn6 it's sold worldwide, but must be ordered from Nakamichi directly, and you will have to pay shipping and custom's which they will arrange.
Enjoying my sonos Arc now in 2024
It would be nice if they came out with a new Beam but it would act as a center speaker and then you could add four 300's as left, right, surround left and surround right. Plus have 2 or 3 hdmi inputs. This will give you the ability to space out the left and right to the size of your tv or room. I would the capability of using a Sub and a Mini Sub at the same time, Sub for lower register and the Mini for the upper register.
If you want to spend that much, why not invest in a traditional set up? Maybe lower end Wilson's?
Yes as it's the best
Bought the arc yesterday, not impressed!! Used Trueplay and tv has earc, have to turn it up more than I did with my tv speakers!!! Zero height as everything seems to be coming from the front.Ceiling is flat and not high, not happy with the arc at all.
The ARC looks good but sounds pretty bad (weak dialogue, anemic sound). I had to go with the Beam 2 because it sounded better in A/B testing in my setup. I'm looking forward to an ARC 2 release to correct the issues of the first generation.
I had to set my LG OLED TV to bitstream/pass through for the eArc port instead of Auto/PCM. Setting to bitstream lets the soundbar do the sound processing instead of the TV. The TV might send PCM in stereo or 5.1 depending on the shows audio. Dialogue will be weak if the soundbar doesn't get the center channel or rear surrounds with a stereo L/R only PCM signal.
I just upgraded from the beam 2 to the arc myself, made a huge difference..
Some things I would like to see..
1. Software update that allows you to add a pair of left and right speakers to the front .. they say the 300 rears make the system a 7.1.4 so imagine the possibilities of being able to add the fronts.. 11.xx🤔
2. more adjustments for the sound bar, they allow more adjustments for the rears so why not allow similar adjustments for the fronts
I don't think adding additional fronts would be useful given it already has side firing and upfiring speakers. I think having rear and surround speakers would be more beneficial. I also think you should be able to add multiple pairs of ceiling speakers to make a true atmos system.
What makes Sonos such a strong proposition (having been in Bose echo system before) is the quality of all their offerings independently but also in the integration aspect too. You get a great cinematic experience and sub gen 3 is a top performer in terms of bass with next to no distortion. It beats more costly cinema separates...making is a great solution....
I think there’s not going to be a Arc 2. It’s going to be 4 era 300 with the sub. Like the Sony.
Exactly what I was thinking, 4x Era 300s with a new center device that will have the HDMI connectors and the center channel.
Arc 2 is coming out in 2024. It's been leaked.
Bought mine in 22...happy with the sou nd....added a MOVE (by mustake) & thougt ..that sounds good....even my MINI SUB kicks..😅
What you should get in 2023 is a new haircut mate.