1986 BMW M5 E28: The original super 4-door - /CHRIS HARRIS ON CARS
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2012
- I haven't driven my M5 for years, so I got it road-ready and took it for a drive. It still feels nuts today - what the hell was it like in 1986?
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News just in: a mate went looking for the wheel centre and found it!!
What a pal!
Chris Harris is my favourite top gear presenter. Awesome bloke .
I come back to this video every once in a while and I always wonder whether it was ever found, particularly as said jettisoning made it into the video. I finally decided to check the comments and I have my answer.
Was going to say, saw it kick loose at 4:45
well done champion
@@nathanwatkins5252 Ha I was going to say the same!
I revisit this every now and then. It's bitter sweet for me, the end always gets me. I owned quite a few e28's (when they were peanuts) including a very rare Hartge 3.4, based on the 528i which my mother-in-law scrapped (won't go there). It preceded both the original M535i and M5 and had an LSD. I never owned the M5. Glorious. I'm slightly younger than Chris, but I can still remember how unbelievable the original M5 was. A trailblazer. A whole new sector. A saloon car like this was unheard of, and before the skirts and chins appeared they were the original sleeper. The calculated, sinister hooligan. I can't begin to explain what an impact this four door super taxi made on me. Don't sell it mate, she's a well used beauty. Fantastic.
Sorry to hear about yours, you have no clue where it went, what do you mean by she scrapped it?
Exact same words.. Got to drive few of these when I was at my early 20's back at the millenium and these cars were just amazing. My favorite ones were the touring wagons that were even rarer..
@@copperwiring7661 Thanks. I have no idea unfortunately. It was a long time ago, but essentially it was on its original rubber and me being an ignorant youth who hadn't owned it long was leaving the motorway, heading into a long sweeping left-hander and it unexpectedly understeered and I grazed the barrier (first time I'd ever experienced understeer in an E28!) Just the offside front wing needed replacing and a wheel repair. I left it outside her house (I had too many old Beemers!) and left it there too long. Apparently it was annoying the neighbour. Wish she'd asked me first. She didn't realise what it was and thought I'd abandoned it. 1 of 16 ever made.
@@johnbumstackerthat is absolutely tragic.
I’m honestly lost for words.
My dad had one in the 87-88 when I was 6 or7. I used to go sit in front of it for hours and hours just watching the beauty of it. It caught my imagination as well and I LOVED the design, the curves, the wheels the color. That car was my first love. Just gorgeous...
4:43 There goes the wheel centre cap hahah
Wolf0wl You are the man, Wolf0wl!! hahaha
Wolf0wl How in the hell did u spot tht WolfOwl?? Lol
+Wolf0wl I saw it, too. haha
+Wolf0wl Yep, I saw that too, but you'll never find the bastard. The cost of a replacement wheel trim is related to how easy it is to find when they fly off. If it's a cheap one you'll find it no problem, if it's expensive it will disappear so completely it could have been sucked into a rift in the space/time continuum...
+Wolf0wl Yep, I saw that too, but you'll never find the bastard. The cost of a replacement wheel trim is related to how easy it is to find when they fly off. If it's a cheap one you'll find it no problem, if it's expensive it will disappear so completely it could have been sucked into a rift in the space/time continuum...
When after video ends and screen goes black and you see your reflection in it smiling like a child
Along with Citroen 2cv and Ferrari FF, I'd say the episodes where he talks about his own cars are the best, they just offer a really personal look into his love for cars, and there's just extra care put into the filming. Brilliant.
***** I loved the 2cv episode, it was what got the ball rolling for my 2cv curiosity which has led me to having bought one. It's as fun as he makes it out to be, zero regrets on that purchase.
I concur :)
+Chris Belfort proves that little horsepower can be fun
how much horsepower does the thing have? like 30?
NotQuiteFishFPS 32 thank you very much! Well, that much from the factory at least (:
This car is better than 90% of the cars made today
Yes indeed true facts hopefully pays attention
Until you crash. But yeah you got a point.
"This car is better than 90% of the cars made today
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Thanks for your baseless stats, Jeremy Cockson; lets see how fast you mum goes round our specially devised Top Gear test track!"
Maybe 95%
@@djxjxixsmjxjskjzxn1853 You seriously think BMW cars are made for stats? It's all about driving pleasure and that's what they do better than most brands...
Superbly built and engineered BMW. This was an era when BMW and Merc were head and shoulders above anything else.
Bang on. These days their cars all seem generic. Imagine the flagship S class looking like a bigger A class saloon. Those silly huge grilles on the new BMWs. That's what happens when bean counters make the big decisions. It is what it is unfortunately....
@@MonsieurGuy It's come to something when a Toyota Camry has more charm than a Merc....
and more reliable.@@adamw2911
Dear lovely BMW E28, first time I saw you in 1990, you remained in my heart forever. Love you. Love can touch just one time and last for a lifetime.
Exactly the passion that is needed on Top Gear UK.
Exactly! Way better than those jokers evans and the american bloke who loves himself too much from the crap comedy "friends", lol.
Woah buddy. Everybody in the UK loves Friends. #everyone
Evan Finch I used to have to watch it sometimes because my girlfriend liked it. It's crap though. The best actor was the hairless cat.
Everyone.
funny you should say that ahahaha
My dad became a cool person in my eyes when he took me for a ride in this same M5. I was 12 like you Chris. I still love my dad since that day 30 years ago.
The seminal supersaloon..I am a proud owner of a black E28 M5
4:45 there went that wheel center :-D Hope you found it.
If I didn't already cherish Harris' videos, this would have been the clincher. The original BMW M5 is one of my all time favorites and I completely agree with Harris' take on it.
I also really appreciate the attitude: Who cares how perfect and shiny it looks, it's the mechanicals that matter.
this vid is a wonderful piece of art. thank you
totally agree with you wish my video's were as good as this :(
My all time favorite car. My uncle had this M5 20 years ago when I was still a young chap. He would every now and then drop me at school. The memories are priceless
So weird to hear that his E28 was 28 years old then. This Month my E34 turns 30 years. How time flies!
"It can't have 286 hp, because in those days that felt like a million HP, it felt like a bigger power figure than a Veyron has today." That is so true!
Chris, I keep coming back to this video. Its intoxicating. A real hero machine which I hope you never sell, I'm not sure i'll ever be at the right time or mindset to buy one but one of my all time favourites, if I ever did buy one I'm pretty sure it would be a keeper.
This is truly masterpiece. No need sensors no computers , just enjoy cruise. This whole era was the best in design and engineering. These models gave the glory of Bmw. Wish I could afford this piece of history. The ultimate driving machine.
I was a BMW importer back then in the US and sold a few sedans. Most people bought the coupe, M635CSi, and I personally owned two of them. Without a doubt the best BMWs I've ever owned, and I've owned many! Cheers!
This is the original Chris Harris, we miss him...
There are those of us that read him, as a written journalist before this venture. There is a long tradition of writing, sub 15 min youtube vids are piggy backing this content with cinematography. This is great short content but don't confuse that with proper writing, Chris manages to bring quality to the role, but I'm sure he'd prefer a few more words in a written publication with video content to back it up
This is the exact car that caught my attention. My family owned a 1987 BMW 535i. When i turned 16 my dad tossed me the keys on my birthday and told me it was mine. I loved that car till it was put to pasture at 360k miles. Amazing car and the sound it makes when the engine get wound up is amazing. I replaced it with my 318ti and am still in love (80s chassis~, 90s body). Great video!
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In the last 5 years I’ve watched this video around 40 times and I’m not sure if I will ever stop watching it.
My dream car😂😂
It sounds weird but, The body is just lovely, it’s simple but so good.
Honestly it’s perfect.
it's not weird, it means you have good taste! For me, I lost interest in car body shape since the early 90s, and that includes bmw, my favourite era is 1977 -1987. And driving one from that era is such a joy, and it doesn't have to be an M5 to get that feel. Modern models are way faster but they don't put a smile on my face like them old ones. This video says it all really.
JustCian it is one of my most desired cars too
I felt the same way about my 533i, I just loved it, still do. It was exhilarating to drive.
From the driver seat with the windows open in real life, you wouldn't be saying that. The camera mic in this video only gives you the treble. The dyno vids on youtube give you a better idea of what it really sounds like.
This car represents the first "super sedan" for me. Thanks Chris.
Thank you Chris for accurately and passionately displaying your piece of automotive greatness..Love the M5
Me either. My dad bought the e32 750iL with the new V12 back in 1992. Babied it for years until i turned 17 and then i totaled it going 80 around a corner on mountain roads. That moment i stepped into that drivers seat it changed my outlook on BMW's forever. I used to think BMW was just an old man car like Porsche or Bentley or Benz.
Patiently waiting until i can own my dream car, either an e46 M3 or an e30 M3.
What a real great a real classic one of the reasons I love BMW
This must be my favorite car video because I have come back 6 times now. Dam what a fine old girl
I'm here in 2021
Dido, I've got a E21 BMW in the garage (in bits) now, my dream car when I was at primary school. Beautiful engines, rear wheel drive, bombproof reliability, pin point feedback on the steering wheel, what more could you want on a road car.
For me, The special M5 is the e39. It's just so captivating, beautiful, timeless.
That is an extraordinarily beautiful classic. I had a 528e, the gruntiest engine of it's time. 'Could start from standstill in third with nary a complaint. The engineering of its day was supreme. 'Embarrassing numbers by today's standard but a roaring monster in it's time. Thanks for letting me look back and salivate!
The E28 5 Series, when launched by BMW, set the standard by which all compact executive saloons would be judged. A phenomenal car that in pristine condition can still be enjoyed today and is probably more enjoyable to drive than some of the sterile products on offer now.
I've never heard the leg room in the back seats boasted about. It's better than most cars - whatever the size (except for the 740iL). Unusually spacious back there. We had a 528e w/ >400k miles on it. Loved it.
This is the era when Bmw was "Bmw"
E46 e39 was the last proper cars
@@richlee509 E38
Ooooh yes I fell in love BMW when my dad owned a E30, I dunno if I’m the only one but I prefer older BMWs to what we see today.
In my now 19 year old Mercedes E320 W124, I still blow people's mind with the powered headrests and power itself :D I love old cars.
One of the 5 most beautifull cars BMW ever built, not just the M5 but the E28 in general, this car look so good on so many levels!
I love his commentaries. I think I would listen even if I couldn't see
LOL!! Watch it in HD and you can see the wheel center cap blow off and go into the bank. 4:45
Did anyone go back to get it? Should have been in the grass just ahead of that corner. Worth the trip as these are now $65-150 USD
Bill Barr why does happen though?
In have one sitting on my bed side table
Bill Barr glad someone else noticed. :)
I just wanted to say that myself!
Probably one of the BEST Aotomotive clips I have ever seen on UA-cam. Have watched it muliple times & still not bored with it. Well done Chris Harris from NZ Kiwi.
I have watched this video so many times. Love this car so much. The E28 and the E30 where the first cars that made me fall in love with BMW when I was a young kid.
I had a black E28 M535i with a dog-leg box, why on earth did I sell it?!
is that seller a nice guy if he isnt ill shoot him
You can buy it back for twice what you sold it for😁
I had a blue one. It wasn't very reliable but it's still the best car I ever owned after owning much faster cars. There was just something so right about it that I will never forget.
Cos it had a shitty dog leg gearbox ?
Me to! It worths 10times at least know
best era of BMW !
My dad bought a used one in 1993 when I was 12 and kept it for about 10 years. I was always a car enthusiast but that car turned me into the fanatic I am today. The sound, the smell and the performance... An incredible car in its time that stirred the soul in a marvelous way which even fast cars can’t seem to accomplish nowadays. My first automotive love affair and my most passionate for sure. 💔💔💔. Until we meet again. E28.
My dad use to own 528i M tech E28 back in early 90's . What a magnificent car it was back then. the E34 Alpine White M5 we had later wasn't half special of the good old E28 .
Great video as always from Chris Harris. I would love to see a re-visit of the E39 M5.
Chris? Please if you ever even think about selling this car contact me.
The E28 M5 is also the car that started my obsession with BMW. Thanks
This is simply a great car!
Quality, Class and Sportivity that distinguished BMW in that period and made me fall in love.
It's very sad to see how cars have become in these days...
I love how subtle these old M-cars looked. Yes they have bigger wheels, bigger exhausts, spoilers etc. yet all very discreet and tastefully done, unlike some of the more modern cars which look positively brash and attention seeking by comparison. These were real Q-cars for people who loved to drive, not posers looking to show off. Their rarity helped keep them desirable too, they didn't fall into the wrong hands like todays models frequently do.
4:45 He lost his hub cap
LOL!! he did, those damn things!
Yes there's the wheel centre he was complaining about at the beginning of the film!
great machine i used to love it growing up in Soweto South Africa , a lot of gangsters used to drive them where i grew up .
SHWELE YOU CAN'T BE A KASI BRA AND NOT LOVE IMATCHBOX M5, GUSHESHE 325IS AND CRIPPLE 3 333I
That might be my 2nd favorite BMW series... my favorite is the E34. That car was literally 20 years ahead of the rest of the industry. Had a 1995, should never have sold it.
I appreciate I’m probably talking to myself at this point in time, but this video was a significant contributing factor to me buying my own E28 M5 ten years ago (chassis 185 of the 187 RHD cars).
I still have it, will likely never sell it, and I still occasionally revisit this video. Like today! Thank you Chris.
@4:45 you can see the wheel centre he mentions leaving. :-)
You are correct, sir!
4:49 There it goes. You should search for it.
Just started watching but already like this video, full of real emotions for a car!
I had one of these in high school, at 17 years old in 1992. I was in heaven! Superb machine, e30 as well. Now I have an e39.
If You're reading Chris, you lost the wheel cap 4 minutes, 45 seconds in. Great car by the way.
4:46 something just flying away XDD
well done chris harris. i admire the guy and his journalism. same age as me, same taste and excitement from 80s supercars in the same way i do. i had the joys of my father being a chauffeur/bodyguard for a millionare in the 80s and 90s, and had the honour of having a lift to school in a M535i, amongst others! similar car, but not quite same 286bhp engine! proper motoring journalist chris! respect
I've been aware of your work in car mags and tv, but what a joy to discover this channel where it's just you, the car, your enthusiasm for motoring, and zero bullshit. Absolutely magnificent. Would love to sit around a table with clever and enthusiastic car people like you, Catchpole, Ross Brawn and just let car talk blossom and flow. I can appreciate climate change and progression is moving into the electric era but I think I'd rather be left behind in the wasteland with a Mad Max V8 Interceptor anyway!!!!
the way he pokes the tail out in his own lane, i am just jealous.
i sold and Audi just so i can buy a rear drive car and learn how to drive like this.
"The car is built beautifully..." - Shows broken m Logo the drivers seat:D just joking i Love the e28 its a great car
10/10 in 87 my next door neighbours had a 520 and we used to dream about this one. I still dream about it today would love to buy one and have it out away just can't spare the cash! You did well for 9k
I used to own D547 YWV - still have the V5 from previous owner and the original head unit. Best car I ever owned.
+/DRIVE Hey Chris Harris I found your wheel cap @ 4:45. Give it one last go and try and find it. And remember: "No drifting!" Lol.
Edit: 4:43-4:45. I went to back test. YT isn't terribly accurate.
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As an 4 time e28 owner, and of course a huge Chris Harris fan, this is one of my favs videos. Watching it for at least the 6th time. Great
Great video. I had a brand new BMW E28 518 in 1983 with the same shape. True BMW quality.
do the e34
awesome
I grew up loving them too! Had an E28 M535i she is no more😪 but she lives on as I put the engine and dog leg gear box in my '87 E30 325i sport . Fits like a glove🤗
These are the types of videos I wish Chris Harris still made, he does this so so so much better than Top Gear
Between 4:42 minutes and 4:48 minutes is when the back Lug-nut cap came off!
thank you for this valueable info
If 286 bhp in a 4-door saloon seemed mad in '86, how did 220bhp in a 4-door saloon in 1959 seem? I'm sure there are other examples but that's what the Mk2 Jag had in the 3.8 straight six.
Not that I'm against BMWs; I own 2, one of which is an E39 M5.
Fair point
The Jag's power was Gross HP not Net HP, you can take about 15-20% off that figure for the Jag for a Net rating. Still a really powerful car in its day though.
Lewis72 Let's not forget the 1972 XJ12 with 272bhp and a confirmed 150mph top speed. 3-piston front disk brakes, 1 piston rear disk brakes, excellent suspension, 6500rpm 5.3L V12, a true super 4-door. 0-60 in 7.3s in 1972 was blisteringly quick, and that's what the XJ12 did.
Acct1941
Of course and I think that many viewed that car at the time as the best car in the world.
Lewis72 Bitch, please. Check out american cars from the 60's ;)
The 80's was BMW's greatest era. I don't think they will ever get back to matching it. A few cars along the way have been special, like the E46 M3 and the E39 M5. But as an era overall...the 80's were perfection!!
Breathtaking car. All the varieties of E28 have a perfect handling and acceleration.
if you look at 4:44 you will see the wheel cap fly off into the weeds from the left rear wheel at the exit of the corner.
4:44 .... did you pick it up ?
That car is gorgeous and stunning and nice to see it being driven properly
Being 48 this year I grew up dreaming of the E28 M5..... I was lucky enough to own a lesser E28 M535i in the mid 90s.... It was the bollocks at the time...fast forward 20 plus years and it’s now a M235i (slightly modified)
can he not take a corner without losing the back end?
JUSES CHIRST He's doing it on purpose.
Also, controllable oversteer is the sweet spot for fast driving.
The first E34 M5 was a 3.6 not a 3.5
Same engine dude Famous S38
Milos M Power e28 had m88
BuXTYP - to be quite specific, the euro-spec M5 had the m88. The North American version got the S38, which was built to replace it anyway. The S38 was originally a 3.5L as used in the E28 as well as the E24 M635 CSi. It was enlarged to 3.6 for the E34, then later to 3.8 as an evolutionary model.
10 years later and still looks amazing
Still to this day I keep coming back to watch this video!
It gives me goosebumps with Chris' commentary.
I myself have a 535is e28 which I love
I think I saw the center cap fly off!
ua-cam.com/video/FzOPR7STqrQ/v-deo.htmlm45s You did!
pause at 4:48 wht the hell flow of the car . Look at the right raer tyre
It may could be a GoPro, but i think there was no close-up footage of the car while he was driving
You have good eyes. Sorry for my bad english. I live in Germany.
I think it is something we would call a "Radnabendeckel". Maybe you call it "Wheel hub cover"?!
You can see it very well if you pay attention.
He mentioned at the start of the video that they lost a wheel center cover.
Yeah that was the wheel cover parting company lol, hope he went back and got it because as he said, those little bits of metal will set you back a lot of money
Ascender2306 this is why you Germans are so amazing - you call that bad English? Ask the average English person to speak a few sentences in german/french/spanish...
I grew up with not one, but TWO E34 M5's in my subdivision and there were two other Bimmer enthusiasts whom had a garage full. One guy had the whole range, E23, E32, E38, E28 and an E30...another had a minty E34 540i/6 and an E30 325is cabriolet. I idolized the E34 M5 for years and still do, but i had thought for the longest time that it was the original M5....and then I learned about the true original
These old Chris Harris videos are the best. He's brilliant on Top Gear, and I know why he went there, but these have to be the best car videos on youtube.
E34 M5's ha 3.6 and 3.8 liter engines, no 3.5
Nicolas LEBLOND e34 had 535i model big six engine
Yes, and it was no M5. It was the 535i.
+Nicolas LEBLOND
Displacement of the "3.6" engine, is 3.535cc..so i'ts really a 3.5.
+Nicolas LEBLOND E34's had a 3.5 3.6 and a 3.8
Yes, and the 3.5 was called the 535i, not M5.
It's not faster than an E34 M5. No M5 is faster than it's successor. I don't know why he was saying that. Cool video though. And an incredibly cool, iconic car.
FolkRoots maybe on paper but he feels he could prob get down the road quicker in the old one.
Seen this video so many times, never get bored of it 🚗
I had US-spec E28 M5 s/n 75105 for almost 20 years. It is indeed a fantastic car. Imagine, a 3,050lb M5. The current M5 is almost half again as heavy. Narrow pillars, lovely steering, real M engine. Superb car.
This is amazing...I'm 18 now and I've also fallen in love with this car after reading stanceworks' build threads. Beautiful...
I too grew up with this era of BMW. I've owned four e28s over the years. From the 518i to the M535i (not to be confused with this ultimate machine). But the what has to be the rarest and most unknown was an e28 Hartge. 1 of 16 ever built. Created before even the 535i existed. Was based on the 528i block but bored out to 3,4 and fitted with an LSD. Was the ultimate sleeper. Sorely missed.
One day I will own an e28 M5.
Great film.
Saw this on the way back from Le Mans, was surprised how quickly it accelerated. What a noise and what a car. Almost as quick as my S5.
Chris Harris is the balls. Keep living the dream mate. And let us all live vicariously through you. Thanks for all the lovely content. Cheers
I just bougt my first e28 520 yesterday. I tell you, i was smiling like a little shit all the way home. Nothing gives driving pleasure like an old BMW... The guy i bought it from, needed the money for a house. He just recently finished restoring it, and then he had to sell it to me.. Guess who will regret that decision in a few years, if not already :D
Chris Harris, I love your love of cars. Your appreciation of the less obvious is the mark of a true connoisseur. Keep doing what you're doing.
Thats y Chris remains my fav car journalist of ol time..
One of the best CH shoots, love watching this video.