Here's Why the E28 BMW 535i Is Now Worth $50,000
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- Опубліковано 9 січ 2018
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0:00............."Once upon a time, BMW'S weren't over-styled iPhones on wheels"...........PERFECT way to start this video!!!!!
You're gonna give it a doug score ?.. XD
Motovlog France ...exactly...you beat me to the punch line.
Motovlog France I
A hoovie score!
A derp score
100/100
I had a 1982 528e that I purchased for $600 with 68K miles, the car was immaculate. Drove it for 18K miles, Power sunroof, power steering, 4 wheel disc brakes, power windows and sunroof, 5 speed, it had it all and was so happy with it. Then, someone offered me $4000 and I said no, then this same person called me 1 month later and offered me $5500 and asked me to stop driving it. He kept calling me and I finally gave in and ended up selling it for $7800. What a sale for me made so much profit. I used the money as a down payment on a brand new E39 525i with all the bells and whistles in 2002 which I still have and has 175K miles and counting.... Hard to say that it has been as reliable as a Honda or Toyota but I still get excited when I think of my 1982 528e its size and the way it felt driving with the window down and my arm resting on the door out the window felt like I was in total control of the road.
Jeep Overlander love the e39. My dad still have his 2000 528i m sport from new
@@AustinGordon4 that is awesome!
I have a similar story. I found my e28 (528e) in a yard and bought it for $500.00. What's amazing about that is it had brand new Toyo Spectrums on it and started up and I drove it home. BTW, to this day the a/c is still ice cold. Of course, I replaced the worn out parts which were not a whole lot, just the normal wear and tear.
It's an '88 with the Super ETA 2.7 and has 260,000 miles on it. It's still the shit after 14 years of ownership.
How I would love to have one of those totally restored to original
But honda and toyota are soo boring :)
HS friend had one of these. We would hide our smoke in the steering wheel, the badge pops off. His was only 3k because someone got shot to death in it. We called it the murdermobile.
lmaooo thats a great story
Sounds like a vinwiki story
Wasn't 2 Pac shot to death in a BMW.. ? Your friend got a bargain
was a certain... rapper killed in it?
Amazing story
WTF? I clicked thinking it was a Doug video!
smasila same lol
smasila hahaha this list will grow
This guy's a poor man's Doug Demuro; a discount Doug Demuro.
Me too
Fuck UA-cam and this bootleg shit
And fuck this guy
I avoided clicking it all day because i thought it WAS a Doug video.
Sounds like the BMW owner sold it to himself for $50k. He’ll list it again in a few months for $60k and profit a full $50k.
Is that the sorta thing you do as well?
Right
Ha ha ha ha ha ha
Heyy...thats good game .. handed down ; )
People list multiple non-existent 'decoy' cars on craigslist at higher prices to make thier 'real' listing appear like a good deal.
This bullshit happens all the time.
I bought my wife the E28 535i - one of the most pleasant cars to drive i've ever driven...
Hey Hoovie, You really made a perfect description of how many people feel about cars these days as compared to the cars of the past. I miss the simplicity.
50k? No way.
Anyway, a welcome upgrade to the production value of your vids, Hoovie. Nicely done. The 80s style scenes looked great.
I bought a beat down E30 with no prior knowledge of 80's era BMWs and even though it was super rough, I fell in love with it. Even with toasted bushings and blown out shocks it was a blast to drive. The M20 was so smooth and sounded so good even with a rusted out exhaust. Six years later I still have the little money pit lol
If you think THESE are gone, try looking for a 1977-83 3-series. These older BMWs were selling for a few grand in the late-90s/early 00s and bought up as cheap status symbols by owners who could not afford the pricey upkeep. I used to see many a rusted, beaten up 320/528 in the rough neighborhoods sitting on blocks with popped hoods.
I love these quality, history-centered videos. Excellent work, Mr. Hoover - keep it up!
Those US Spec bumpers look like benches. What are shame. The car is still good looking still.
Manuel Toscano diving boards actually lol
They very useful. If you put a blanket on them, you can use them as seats. Also, if you bump into something, you don't cause any noticeable damage.
Still
Those bumpers are referred to as "diving boards"
By far my favorite era for BMW. Simple, pure, solid. A classic from conception.
The styling is much better than the new BMWs.
Too many cars look alike now.
Increase the volume
Maybe but new 5 series looks better then Mercedes E class, Audi A6 or Lexus ES (both with shiti FWD).
Froggy Frog 9000 e34 is what I drive although I miss my e28
The rear end looks hideous. Would be better if they had two circular rear lights
I wish that car companies would start making new sub brands that made cheap reliable, low tech cars that are good quality
i-Spec they do. Its called toyota. Cant beat them
YamaMerJohnson That's why Toyota is my favorite car manufacture, but they are not very cheap, or low tech. I mean that car companies should make $15k cars where the options are a radio and A/C, but just build them to last forever and make them fun to drive. That can be their appeal, that they are fun to drive and will last forever
Well they could but then they couldn't sell them. Emissions and accident survivability legislation are the reason for more complex cars. Both are worthwhile. Just buy a classic. But not this overpriced crap.
Colin Johnston bullshit! Lookup the Logan :) plus a classic does not have or meet the same crash and emission standards you refer to!
See Lada Niva. You can’t improve perfection.
The US bumpers look hideous
Chris Ritz hahah yes and those bumpes have good purpose.When you hit a pedestrian to make sure you break his/her legs
They look kinda decent with a bumper tuck.
You say that, but I was rear ended in my 1982 528e. It shattered the bumper of the car behind me, my car simply had some scrapes on the rubber strip.
Look on Autoscout24.de or Mobile.de and import it for much less without that hideous bumper. If you can't read German, you can look up translation.
Fuck you, it's got character! Big bumpers all day
Hoovie, great review. I remember being in high school getting my first ride in a 535i. It was just amazing. That straight 6 was so silky smooth throughout the rev range. Glad you experienced what it was all about. DeMuro would have thought it was ugly, slow and then would offered up a bunch of misrepresentations about cars of that era. Keep up the good work!!
Doug likes his features. This bmw's features: a steering wheel and perfection. Not Doug's cup of tea. Need more people like hoovie who get what cars are actually about past the superficial electronic gizmos.
Please don't mention the other "car reviewer". He doesn't know shit about cars.
Your editing is getting better!
I've always loved driver oriented dash clusters. BMW, SAAB, and a few other companies were great at making the driver feel like they were sitting in a cockpit.
Nice video Doug
fock dood
go back to tommy videos :)
What the hell are those bumpers... We got normal sized ones here
Patrick Salzmann US Spec bumpers. They're always oversized and hideous
that would be the lovey bumper requirements of the time.
BSDKllr i feel like every German car sold in America had those back in the days. But i don't see how much safer they are when you're hitting something at 60mph
Ricardo Andres best example would be the old fiat 124. Those bumpers ruined it
In fact with these bumpers the european cars looked that ugly, there was no difference after a crash :D
Those North American bumpers are hideous
They seriously are!
Bloody horrible!
Yes
I’ve sold as many euro bumpers to you guys as I could 😂
Fucking horrible
My father used to own an E28. It was one of the first cars I have ever driven, and it was awesome! Silky-smooth straight-six engine, great handling, sweet-oversteer, communicative steering wheel and all around great built quality.
It’s kinda sad the BMW isn’t the BMW it used to be.
NorthAmerican Auto
Still a Black Mans wish
same with Benz
no automotive brand is like it used to be, look Italian supercar brands making SUV's. At least BMW makes cars that are still very fun to drive, like the M240i/M140i M2, 340i new 5 series is extremly good, but I have to agree complicated...
They lost me the day they integrated the kidneys grille to their plastic bumper bars!
It is if you buy an old one.
$50,000 is a lot to pay for a $7,000 car.
Many buyers on BAT are morons with too much time and money. For some reason they think it's a coup to overpay for shit. I quit perusing the site about 4-5 months ago because it has become ridiculous. Too many idiot comments during the auction too, like people congratulating the buyers for overpaying. "Great buy" they say, after some chump pays $50k for an old 535i. lol
Too many assholes there, constantly chiming in with useless comments like, "Nice car, GLWS", or "Popcorn time". Absolutely zero to contribute regarding the actual cars, like a past story of ownership or a list of potential issues with a certain model, etc. Don't get me wrong, there are many great, and helpful contributors there, but there are now too many auctions and too many useless noobs in the comment section.
nicely said
they sell locally near me for like $3-5k
Mario in germany
It doesn't matter what you or I think a car is worth unless you are the buyer or seller. Price discovery and value are determined by willing buyers and sellers. In this case it was $50k Sure, you could blame it on one idiot, but there were other bidders so it wasn't just one. The free market determines value, not opinions made by people who don't participate.
We owned this beauty in Kuwait 1991-1993. My dad used to drive this BMW❤. Sweet memory. Thanks for the video
Great to watch. I bought my '85 535i, manual, brand new. Most satisfying car I ever owned, on the road and track. Went on to some nice rides, 88 M5, 77, and 87 911's, 1995 Audi S6 Avant (second fave), and many others. The subject of this video was my fave.
I've owned BMW's for 20 years and noticed deterioration in driving dynamics and build quality over the years. The old German engineering and older German engineers that made these cars real ultimate driving machines are all but gone. The business model has changed drastically over the years making these cars more complicated with smaller block engines, forgoing smooth inline engines for jacked up turbos. Giving up driving dynamics and joy for comfort and accoutrements. All this compounded with over inflated prices that do not justify the cost of the purchased product or it's value. This is a sad testament to what was one of the finest engineered automobiles in the world. And as you have probably guessed, I have since switched to another brand and have had few if any regrets.
I prefer older models, but I won't agree on the dynamics. It all depends on the model and equipment. And as for the reduction in capacity, it just happens to be BMW. Look at Volvo with their only engines 2.0 R4 and 1.5 R3 - pathetic, or lexus which in the new LS only V6 while BMW putting the V12.
Driving feel is terrible on new bmw's. Interiors feel cheap. Completely defeats the purpose of a bmw. They really have fallen.
I've had a couple of newer ones, and several older ones. Done with the newer ones for good. Poorly constructed money pits. Nice driving, but not nearly as engaging as the older ones, and not nearly as reliable. Currently have an e30 convertible, and an e34 540i/6.
All about those funky dividends for the share holders!
@@gbkny1 and as or more important, meeting European emission and safety standards.
that's actually a really good video keep up the good work !. even though I don't like those BMWs but it's actually sad that modern cars are becoming very expensive over complicated iPhones on wheels that are useless after 5-7 years and simple enthusiasts car like this biemer will not stop appreciating becouse they offer exactly what people want
Thanks for the video. It reminded me how nice these cars really are. Mine is 1985 with over 250K and still running, no leaks. Stick shift is the only way to go, handling is better than most new cars and the straight 6 engine is amazing. I might sell mine on ebay at some point.
I drove my Mom's 1988 525e for the longest time in the 90s......fell in love with these. Very distinct sounding engine.
"just watch it leak away in your garage as it steadily appreciates in value" 💯
Loved the Borg references. Defiantly depicts the complexity of modern stuff.
What a fun video. I had my e39 when I was 17 and had a nine year old 528e. You forgot to mention that there are holes in the door panels that you can use a tool from the trunk to roll up the windows if the motor malfunctions! Brilliant!
I just discovered your channel. Man, you're funny!! You provide an excellent education with just the right amount of humour. I'll keep coming back for more of your reviews on the good, the bad, and the ugly.
I have no idea why, but that interior and the slanted angle of the steering wheel is really pleasing to look at. I think this is the best looking interior I've ever seen
slick_ej6 agree I love those interiors. My favorite was the 528i from not sure what year..82? Something like that. Love that.
A few months ago, i had a 1979 E12 528i 4 speed and I loved it.
I’m not sure how I’ve never seen this video yet! Fantastic summary of why these are great cars. My E24 mirrors everything Hoovie said. It’s just so simple yet looks beautiful and makes you smile on every single drive.
I just typed Hoovies in the search looking to find something else and I've just stumbled upon this amazing historical video which really hit me on my sensitive chord, vintage cars! Huge thumbs up!
that borg reference and the voyager poster in your room, Trekkie confirmed.
Coldplay’s ‘the scientist’ video got me into this car ever since I was 2, still looks absolutely stunning 😍
Sam Broadbent
Good show, I like the way you review older cars that I have thought about buying.
Great video, Hoovie! I have a '86 325es with 340k miles. She's a little tired, but still great fun to drive; and not hard to fix! Which isn't that frequent actually...
$50,000 30years ago or 200 years from now lol
My e24 M6 isn't worth $50K, wish it was.
just keep it sealed in a plastic bag and bury it in the ground for next 40 yrs... it will be US$5,000,000 in 2049!!
The best forms of engineering...attain the required functionality by the simplest means possible
Wonderful - such a sensible commentary about the joys of a real car before it became a computer appliance. Well done! Thank you.
My Dad had one which I was able to drive. It was a lovely lovely thing to drive, in many ways the best Beemer I’ve ever driven. The styling still looks good, classic lines, great engine. Perfect. I miss it ! Thanks for the memories 😊.
Excellent review. I used to own one of these E28's back in the day. Not sure if I like those US model bumpers though. Haha. Great car but it rusted so easily because I live in area with a lot of road salt.
I have a 2012 Mercedes C-class now. Amazing car to drive, the structure is 100% quality.... you know how Mercs are... but guess what it developed a power steering problem. Nothing wrong with the pump, it was the ESP module that had to be replaced.
You can't change a used part because the VIN is coded into the module. 1400 Euros plus taxes and labour. New cars are SHIT and total rip-offs. I'm going to buy a classic Merc, Jag or BMW next... I've had enough.
i totally agree with you ,only the reliable ones ,computers made them bad cars ,i even think the software is programed to give faulty info on each part after a number of years ,so you can spent a fortune in reppairs
2001 was the last good year for mercedes
armani nah they were bulletproof till about 2012
Classic jags are also garbage
Thirty years later, the e28 535i is still a magnificent car.
...and slooooow.
I loved my 635CSi! Admittedly, I did (and still do) have a strong affinity for the 5 Series. Thanks for the video!
Dude you are hilarious! I'm loving your videos and learning so much.
I have a 1972 2002 and a local BMW dealer offered to swap me for a day. I would get to drive a new M, and he would get my little 2002. At the end of the day I could not wait to give back the M, and the dealer had a hard time giving me back my 2002. Although the cars were almost 45 years apart, the old 2002 had something its younger, distant relative did not. Soul. A tangible connection to the outside world and a mechanical connection to what was propelling you down the road. Don't get me wrong, the M was a superhero where my 2002 is Clark Kent. You can't engineer soul into a new car.
You made a wise decision Grasshopper.
Hhahaha great comment.
i also had a 72 2002, my greatest life regret was selling that car back in the 90s!! :(
The same will be said about new cars in the next 30-40 years.
After all, bmw currently produces pretty cool cars much cooler than the boring Audi smelly VW...
Lewis Thaw yep. The old 2002 are legendary
Drooled over this car many times as a kid seeing one parked in Long Beach. This 5 series was in its own class, and also saw them devouring the Autobahn well over 100. Straight 6’s rule!
It's hard to break a straight 6! The guy who bought Tony Curtis' straight 6 Rolls Royce Silver Cloud 14 years ago now has 654,000 miles on it, no rebuild except piston rings.
I watched Splash with my kids the other day and fell in love with this car all over again. That last scene with it barreling through NYC was great
The E28 was my first car. Pure magic and to this day, nothing has the road feel or is as well built.
I dougn’t know why this seems so familiar. Demuro i watch it the more it seems.
Horia the way you spelt "don't" omfg 😲🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
dough'nt
I see what you did there 😂
I find Hoovie classier, funnier and more eloquent than Doug...and he dresses like an adult.
I don’t. In my opinion he is just trying to be successful by reproducing what succesful youtubers do. It think he doesn’t have his own style.
I’m not hating on him, i do watch him sometimes.
Wow those US spec bumpers are ugly!
I had an M5 in 1988-1990. Fantastic machine. Proper dog-leg gearbox, 318 bhp, would spin wheels changing into third .... cornered on rails in the dry.
I wish I still had it.
My first BMW was a 85 528e manual 5 speed. Excellent driving experience.
I have a 1987 535is. They only made 2,500 of them so they are hard to come by. It comes with some m5 goodies such as the sport seats, front spoiler, rear spoiler, and bilstein sport springs from the factory. One of the best cars I have ever driven. It's red so everybody is always complimenting me or giving me thumbs up or taking pictures of it. I had some guy stop in the middle of the road when the light was green just to talk to me about the car lol. New BMW's just don't have the same personality or road presence that the old ones do.
Zinnerot? That color is amazing. I have a 1988 535is. Lachsilber. I have no intention of ever getting rid of it.
Ive got one of the 87 IS's. Black diamond metallic with the black interior, wbu?
Feledwards yes, mine is zinnoberrot. They are great cars. The silver ones look awesome as well.
Jacob __ Mine is zinnoberrot with black interior.
I'm on instagram as atf_1129 and I'm also a member of the e28 group on Facebook.
The e30's have gotten expensive, I'm glad to see they are taking the e28's with them :-D Unlike the e30's you really don't see many of these on the road anymore.
you have the coolest videos,at first I kind of thought you were a dork,but then i remembered I am a dork....Keep up the good work
I love this car. When BMW really was the Ultimate Driving Machine. Thanks for the look, Hoovie.
80’s Mercedes and BMW’s are some of the best cars ever made. Hell, those diesel Mercedes are a dime a dozen and most have 250-300k miles on them even 40 years later! They were built like tanks!
They don’t hold up well in crashes though. Neither does the e30
Not a dime a dozen anymore. You easily pay 10k for a clean one even with a quarter million miles on it lol
here's why my 1994 dodge caravan is worth $48.37
Lmao, or a can of Similac for your premature birth baby.
Owned the exact one in white with tan leather in 1986. I took such good care of this car when I had a child in 88 I put in sheep’s wool cover over the back seats to protect them from the car seats. Painted the black grill and side mirrors white and placed a small wing on the back also with a hidden radar detector. Sold it in 1990 in showroom condition for a 1990 735il Hartge package with 17” low profile tires. Miss them both 😢
Over the last two years ive read a lot about this classic bmw 5 series. (Sam Smith- Road & Track magazine) Watching you in it was like experiencing the car for the first time myself. Since it was your first time driving one. Pure joy... Keep it up.
... at the end)
"Ahhh, the old dim and brighter tail lights.. of old cars.
Most of the time new, matching bulbs wont help
i thought this was a Dougie D vid but i clicked it and didn’t hear “THIS” :(
Zxibit I still rock your shit to this very day.
Proud owner of an E87 2.0d. BMW ethos through and through, handles like a dream, 60mpg and looks like a sculpture.
I just picked up a 1988 535is. Manual bliss. Wasn't cheap. This review solidified my decision. Thanks dude.
this thing is gorgeous....looks way better than todays garbage.
Looks so much better without those US Bumpers :) Stunning old beemer.
alfa scozia not to be that guy but, Bimmer
As I amass my own hooptie fleet, Tyler has become my favorite UA-cam channel. It's like watching a further-ahead preview of my financial decline and terrible decisions.
My favorite BMW- Would love to have one totally restored like this.
BMW can’t build cars that drive like those old BMW’s anymore with out all the fancy crap. That is because those engineers are all retired or dead.
BioHazard Shrimp in my opinion the last 2 cars bmw built that can be called the ultimate driving machine are the E39 and the E46 the E60 is faaaat the e90 is too big for a 3 series and their M brothers are basically an engine and that's it and I don't want to start with the F generation the 1M was a great car but it is NOT a mass production car the M2 might have some of the M3 E46 charm but but still not as good bmw now is the ultimate computerized car sadly but that's what the market is asking for and they have to sell
0mer Qasim I agree 100% I do a lot of work for BMW Assembly in North America. You should see their rework building. It’s full of X series that have issues. They have gone over the deep end with electronics but you are right. That’s what the market wants. If you stripped them down people would buy more Mercedes.
BioHazard Shrimp that's not why. It's because of safety regulations and competition
Yea cocaine is a hell of a drug
asif naseri I don’t buy that. All the manufacturers have competition and the same standards.
Trekkie watching :)
Awesome video hoovie! a future classic!
I have an M535i 1986 parked in the garage , only to be used sunny sommer days.
liked your video!!!
Kinda makes me want to get back to work on my 1974 BMW 3.0S...
Mark Beiser yeeeeessscdo it
yes go for it,l had a 72 from 77 to 86,still probably my favorite1.
I'll buy it from you.
Had one of those in 1976: great car but very poor ventilation.
no way that worth 50k?
Thijs Achternaam 5-7 in europe
it's not
Bidders on BAT are morons with too much time and money. You can get the occasional deal there, because they auction off too many cars now, instead of it just being an old car blog, but for the most part, people overpay there every single day.
I've had a couple of these E28s over the years, and they were nice. Easy and fun to drive, smooth, comfortable, classy (in their day), but they were shit winter cars. Useless in the snow. I had a minty '87 back in the mid 90s, Diamond Black Metallic with rich burgundy leather, 5spd., and I sold it for around $11k. No way they are worth $50k now, or probably ever. It's a dated looking sedan for Christ's sake.
Yea it looks ok but there’s no way I’d ever spend 50k on that
No but nice e28 M5's are definitely getting up there, high 40's pretty regularly on BAT
I like your honest, commonsense approach. My E39 was a heartbreaker, but I could definitely go for a good, clean E28.
Nice review of the e28 standard 535i manual trans. It was my mother's favorite. I'd like to hear your thoughts about the standard 635csi manual trans.
Doug the type of guy to.. wait a second that's not Doug!
Comments are saying you're just like Doug. I disagree man, you are your own thing.
Mark Olpindo no he’s copying doug like crazy
He knows Doug. That's his boss on Autotrader. He makes jokes about him sometimes on his channel.
Nothing like Doug. For one thing, Hoovie's funny.
Watched a lot of your videos man as i am a hopeless whenit come to resisting anything to do with cars and just want to say, nice work with the way you present your vidz (relaxed). Funny thing i noticed, you sound like Owen Wilson hahaa
All the subtle funny things you do and references crack me up man
i genuinely thought this was a doug video
those bumpers ..... You americans ^^
Flixxe I live in the USA and own the same bmw in this video mine doesn’t have that bumper idk why
Anthony Molina somebody swapped them
or it was a grey market car, as in, someone exported it from europe to the US
Many owners swapped those picnic benches for the euro bumpers. Know your Bimmer man!
Thanks for telling me about all the quirks and features.
Thanks for sharing Vidio great and thank for education
I prefer Hoovies
Because of my ex-wifes old job I spent 1998 to 2015 working on and living near American military bases in Europe. So in Germany and Italy all the old (precat) BMWs end up in Soldier's Airman's and Sailors hands because the tax to drive a (precat) car doesn't apply to American servicemen. I owned an 89 325 myself at one point. Infact old BMWs are the most commonly found auto still on a US Base. It is very common to find an old good running 3 or 5 series with cold air induction and pipes .
lol at the end. gotta love how those old getrag boxes pop out of gear when parked
The music in the background just took me back in time,,, Top of the Tops,,, 😁
Paid 4500 for my 535is 2 years ago, I’m just as nice of shape as this one
Adam Weinkauf he never said this one was 50k. The 50k one was mint restored.
colin J observant You are the only one her listening
meanwhile in europe these are worth dirt.
You must be joking. E39s are worth dirt, not these.
prntscr.com/hym00i
Literally lol
Well usually the Europeans versions have shitty small engines and poor interior options.
Damn that is cheap man :D holy shit :DD
Anthony B. Because we got different versions. US only get one version most of the time because they would have to go through too many regulations.
2:47 the sound of when there’s no tech and keepin it 💯
About twelve years ago now, my dad had a 1985 528e in silver with a black interior. I don’t remember what drivetrain it had, and I’m pretty sure it was an automatic. It was already a high mileage car, I think it had close to 300k miles on the odometer when the transmission went out. He couldn’t afford to repair it, so he let it go. We all loved that car!