you don't need a multi thousand dollar budget to buy at least a 4060, or at least a 6800, lol, just brain and some money management, unless you are a kid living in your mom basement or live in a third world country I don't see how someone who has a job can't afford a 500 dollar gpu, lol. 3050 and 6500 xt are atrocious cards and you should not even look at them, they are awful from a price to performance standpoint, you are better just buying an old 980 ti or a 1060 than those especially if you are low on budget, you probably don't even have pci 4.0 so this cards make absolutely no sense for you, xD
Here in Italy 6500 xt is like 150 euro, and 3050 6gb 175 ish. Both pretty terrible stuff when rx 6600 with much better performance and 8 gb of ram starts at around 190 euro
I think this is where the usage case of 3050 6GB really shines. The biggest fumble with the 6500XT is not only those lanes but the requirement of the 6-pin. Slapping the 3050 6GB into a semi-modern office PC (10th Gen and below) is a no brainer. You even get more VRAM.
Very true for people that aren't building their own system with a new power supply unit, it works great in systems without that extra PSU power connector.
I remember when the 750, 950, and 1050 were actual great value 50 series cards. Idk what drugs Nvidia is on to make them way worse as their GPU architecture got better.
It's called capitalism and corporate greed. They go where money goes. This is why better competition is what we needed but most of them are taping on some occasions making Nvidia douchebagery prices undefeated.. I'm kinda rooting for amd and intel too but with recent news, we can say Nvidia can do a douchebag move for the next years
Now that you mentioned the GTX 1080, comparing these cards and other used options would be interesting to watch. I saw in the comments people recommending the 5700 XT, the 2060, and 2070 as better options
Absolutely crush these lol. Need a decent psu though, mostly for the 5700xt/1080. (Saying that while running 2600 oc and a red devil 5700xt on a corsair vs450 lmao 😅)
@@lagginswag 1660/2060 should work fine on VS450. Interesting how the 1660 performs better than RTX3050 6GB and it used to cost 210€ 4 years ago. It is like the mid range and high range evolved (Mid range quite less) and entry level got stuck in time or even regressed in some cases.
I bought a Asrock Phantom Gaming 6500xt off FB marketplace a couple of months ago for just 50 USD. A steal for the price and good as a backup gpu/display adapter.
@@RandomGaminginHDit was absolutly trash paired with a 5600g. 6600xt/6650xt is the far better choise for +50 bucks Warzone 1440p ultra/high 55-60fps without upscaling
@@philspam2087i don’t think anyone recommends buying a new 6500xt in a world where the 6600 exists for slightly more money. However this was not always the case. I bought a 6500xt on launch day for $199 when the 6600 was $400.
Unless you only buy new, or have a low-profile computer that lacks any external PSU connector, there's almost no reason to go for a RTX 3050 when you can buy used RTX 2070/2080 which offers up to 100% increase in performance for around the same price or slightly higher for the Super models. Even the Rx6600 can be found new for around 40 eur. more and offers a similar 100% increase in performance. In general, there's almost no reason to get a 3050 unless that is the only GPU available for your budget. Edit: Adjusted % increase in performance from conservative values of 20% to 100%
and your first point is exactly it. a lot of casual gamers or people who just need a computer are too scared to shop used. they won't touch it with a 10 foot pole bcs it'll fuck them over if it breaks and there's no warranty. they want assurance and safety with a new GPU, and couldn't care less for how much less performance it provides. and yes the 6600 exists but 40 EUR is a LOT in many developing countries.
@@PizzaUndervolt The 6600 and 2070 are both about 70% faster, as far as I'm aware. The 6600 XT might hit that 100%. ...or I could know nothing and be talking out of my butt. 🤣
If you're truly budget gamer, you're using something like an i3 or Ryzen 3 4300 like me.. I am not in the tax bracket for a 4070 even though I am working. I have dependents so I can't necessarily pick up a second job and be away from home in the evenings and always be tired for the sake of a 4060 or 4070, maybe 5 years ago but not today. So GPUs like 3050 exist because there are people who simply can't just add $100 more for a better GPU.
@@jordanmntungwa3311 true but honestly I think at that budget range it's better to buy used gpu. nowadays there isn't good low end or midrange market like there used to be.
ive used a 1660 super which is pretty much the same thing for the last 4 years and its been excellent, i just got a 6800xt today though and it is a welcome upgrade
3050 6 GB is a misunderstood card. It is the most powerful card in the world that doesn't require external power and the closest other option is around $400.
@MasoMathiou it's best in it's class though. That much performance via the pcie slot alone makes it a very versatile card. You could put that thing in almost anything, and play games. AMD releasing these budget options with x4 lanes limits their viability ALOT.
With the Rx 6600 in the market for 200$ or less I don´t see the point to get these graphic cards, but if you can buy them for 100$ brandnew I think is not a bad choice.
It just goes to show that the combination of only having 4 PCIe lanes, a 64-bit bus and only 4GB of VRAM is still an issue for the 6500 XT... even in a Gen4 slot. You can really see that in the 1% and .1% lows in some of the tests. They do have an 8GB version, but it costs as much as an RX 6600, so it's entirely irrelevant and the 4GB model should just be forgotten as well.
@@TheSpotify95 Yep, because the 5500 wasn't a pilfered laptop GPU they slapped on a PCB to sell as a desktop card. Seems that's becoming the norm for the low end these days.
@@evers6214 Absolutely, and the 3050 6GB full height cards should be closer to $150, if not less. The low profile cards make sense at that price range, but the full height cards need to be cheaper for sure as well.
With these low end cards it would have been nice to see 720p same settings and Maxed out for true budget gamers that want FPS at the low end. Thanks. Did you mention that the 6500XT is truly designed for mobile laptops and such low power applications thus the 4 pci-e lanes and not like the 3050 with 8 lanes.
Here the 6600 is 40 euro more expensive and if you don't mind the terrible power consumption for the performance it's way better. And if you're spending more money anyway the 7600 or 4060 is about 50 euro more than 6600 etc etc
This is actually a really good way to see the effects 1 and .1% lows on smoothness of gameplay. Even though both cards were getting around 60FPS in RDR2, the 6500XT's gameplay looked stuttery and awful.
The 6500XT may never have happened if there wasn't a shortage. Navi24 was supposedly designed as a low-end laptop chip, so they could always count on it being paired with a PCIe 4.0 laptop CPU and cut down the number of lanes to save power and die size. Then because laptops all have iGPUs with encoders and hardware video acceleration, they could ditch a lot of redundant silicon there too. And since it's going to pass frames back to the iGPU for the internal screen and maybe drive one HDMI out, it doesn't need to support four screens at once. And then the shortage happened and Navi24 was such a small die you could get more than twice as many out of a wafer than you could make 6600(XT)s, so they factory overclocked the pants off of all of them and whipped up some PCIe card designs that needed less components and less PCB material, and sold them as a desktop GPU. Edit: And anecdotally, even though there is no replacement, now that the shortages are over I'm seeing a lot less stock of 6500XTs whenever I check my preferred sellers of PC parts. There's less variants than at launch, and the ones that show quantity don't seem to keep a huge stock.
I appreciate the information you're giving me about.The 3.0 and 4.0 But just out of curiosity and it does make a big difference, the resizable bar, you never make a comment about that
I have a 3050 KalmX which I got used because it's the most powerful passively cooled card you can get. I'd instantly switch to anything faster that I can get passively cooled out of the box. Maybe when the AMD 8500 XT or the nVidia RTX 5050 when they release (or whatever they'll end up being called).
I'm somewhat satisfied with my RTX 3050, about the most powerful card I could slot into my aging OEM-machine and it has been a substantial upgrade over GTX 1650. Of course the brand new 3DMark's Steel Nomad was there to put me into my place, but at least older titles run pretty well now. I wouldn't recommend the card to anyone not limited by their PSU(and no easy upgrade option in sight), but for my case it's been good (and easy) enough.
i think you should also consider the AFMF 2 tech on rx 6500xt too .... even on being driver level based frame gen AFMF 2 in many is very good and fps and latency is overall much better and feels like real fps .... it will be nice addition to benchmarks when using AMD gpus and it will be nice too know performance on different AMD gpu using AFMF 2.
Unless you need a 75W card if you want RT/DX12U functionality then I'd say a used 2060 and a tube of thermal paste is the best value around this price point. More performance and a full x16 connector.
The 3050, especially in its low profile form, is meant to be a step-up from the GTX 1650. It fits in an old SFF office PC and doesn't need external power. An old office PC with a 10th gen i5 and RAM bump with a 3050 is a cheap and usable 1080p gaming rig (be aware that there's effectively no upgrade path with these systems though). The problem is that it's only 6GB RAM and 96bit memory bus, not enough of a step up from the 5 year old 1650 with 4GB and...128bit bus (but if it had 8GB that would eat into the 4060, and there's a low profile variant of that which unfortunately needs external power). It's also not a whole lot faster than a top spec iGPU.
Did you use different settings when recording the RTX 3050 gameplay? I feel like all the clips are less saturated and more blurry compared to the 6500 XT gameplay
There is RX6400 if you want to have a look, should be around 1650 performance and price, but same shitty 4 lane PCI and no HW encoding. Also GTX1630, with 1050ti performance. Wouldn't go bellow that today.
Well the 3050 6gb is not slow but worse price to performance. It actually has the performance same as the gtx1660, but no extra power connector required.
Don't also forget the RX 5500. Remember, you did a test previously with RX 5500 compared with RX 6500XT and in some cases, the 5500 won outright (compared to the 6500XT) and the 5500 always won in PCIe 3.0 mode. So for a PCIe 3.0 system also look for the RX 5500.
I bought a RTX 3050 8GB in 2022 for $350 i know the price is abit rough for the 3050 but the country i live in has very strict taxes you pay on Electronics in my Country very happy with my 3050 and have peace of mind knowing i have the more powerful card with more VRAM def helps alot if you wanna play games at Ultra settings Im honestly Quite suprised by what thw RTX 3050 6GB can achieve its definitely a card if you're tight on a Budget or just wanna slap it in a Office Pc. The 6GB VRAM could become a issue in the future coz i use over 6GB of VRAM in Cyberpunk witb the settings cranked everything to high and SSR to Ultra with DLSS Quality and achive 60+ mostly
The 6600 is really the best alternative here. The 3050 6GB shines though in a low power build, a low profile build, or something that will take advantage of Nvenc or CUDA like a budget stream or editing PC.
If you have the case space and the pcie cable son your PSU you can get an aliexpress rx 5700 xt that has a 70 percent performance uplift and more vram. Not every office PC especially with oem PSUs will allow this but Id say its worth it if you meet the requirements
Seems like, in Radeon range, RX 6600 is only logical option... Shouldn't RTX 3050 be rival of RX 6400 as budget card? Did AMD took the crown from GT x10 cards as top range display adapter?
RTX 3050 8Gb starts at 30 euro more expensive than RTX 3050 6Gb and 4Gb RX 6500 XT in our country now. I think a better choice? (If you do have a GPU power connector of course)
@@erikkarsies4851 RX6600 doesn't consume much more and has much better performance, it is shit at RTX but so is RTX3050. What actually makes 3050 better is in productivity.
FWIW, Intel A580 cards should be sitting right around the same price, around 160 USD. How do its results slot comparatively, for the "new electronics smell" crowd?
It all depends on what you use the cards for. I mean what games do you play on your PC. I own a 6500xt because it was the only entry card I could get at the time. I play the new games on my Xbox and use the PC for older, less demanding games. For that the 6500xt is fine. Not good but fine... And I run it on PCI 3.0 because I have a cheap system. I wish it was much better than what I paid ( now I could get a 6600 for the same price!) . Am I happy with the card? NO!
Lower power usage, more VRAM, more versatile performance, crushes video editing, excellent media encoders, RTX broadcast, RTX HDR, RTX Video HDR, RTX VSR, DLSS infinitely better at 1080p.
3050 6GB is good if you are limited by space, power and connectors. There isn’t much competition for people with that use case. However if you have the space and power you can probably find something much faster. At least here the Intel 750 and Radeon 6600 was just on sale for about 10% more and you get much more than 10% better performance.
Unlucky people over there. Over it's almost the same price. At least if you ignore build quality. The better card is the more the 6500 xt even tends to be more expensive here.
yeah im saving for a 3060 12gb to replace my 3050 6gb. i learned in hogwarts legacy if i want to halve my fps put on raytracing on low. but i doesnt need external power and does surprisingly well for what it is.
3050 6gb doesn't need a 8pin power connector, the rx 6500 xt needs one. 3050 6gb has use cases, to put in old office pc's with proprietary power supply
You have to put the 6500 XT in context ... when it came out, it was around 300$ CAD and the RTX 3050 was over 400$ CAD during the GPUpocalypse. In terms of Frames per dollar, the 6500 XT at the time was way more economical. In terms of performance, 6500 XT is about the same as an RX 580 in PCIe 4.0. RX 570 in PCIe 3.0. Totally playable, just not great. I do find that the Frame Generation does help the card quite a bit. There are no bad GPUs, just bad prices. If the 6500 XT was still being made ( I think production stopped, someone can correct me ) ... it should be less than 150$ CAD. RTX 3050 is still a bit pricey for what it gives you as a generational replacement for the GTX 1650.
RX580 was great back in 2019 and it cost less than what 6500XT is today and had hardware encoding, plus it has double VRAM which not being important in 2019, it is very much important today when many games require at least 6GB/8GB of VRAM. And Frame Generation is useless if you don't have additional VRAM, plus it is awful tech, you need at least 50fps to feel any good as input lag is major killer, and with 50+ you can already play the game. Better just use upscaler or not play game at all. Considering 6500XT is basically a much gimped RX580 with lower TDP and recent drivers, and was always more expensive, it is certainly a bad card. Same could be said about RTX3050 6GB, but that one is actually better for about same price, has usable VRAM, hardware encoding, more efficient, 8xPCI lanes for old systems, so it is worth a look...once it hits 160€ or lower.
A very interesting benchmark video. RX 6500 XT turned out disappointing, the card is in a no-man's land. It's too slow for a gaming card, RTX 3050 is outright better, worth the premium between these 2 cards.
3050 even the 6gb version is a much better card than the RX 6500xt But with the same price or even lower you can get second hand RX 6600 that have performance equal to RTX 2060 Which is definitely above 3050 even the 8gb version
RX6600s have the same performance outside of RT as a 2060S mate, better purchase than the 8GB 3050 let alone the 6GB, unless you need a 75W card that is.
Haven’t been paying attention to pc hardware for the last 12 months or so….how on earth is the 6500xt still £150 here? Pretty sure it was the same price this time last year!
I have a gtx 1660 super paired with an i5 8500 and 16gb of ram ddr4 at 2666mhz do you guys think that with this combo an rtx 3050 would be a good upgrade?
The 3050 is undoubtedly the better card. The only problem around it is the price point it's been at for the longest time. If it can drop closer to the RX 6500 XT prices.....it would be better received. I have a laptop with the 3050 and it runs pretty well. Slightly better than the 1660S desktop. but nothing close to the RX 6600 and its XT and 6650XT variants. Long story short... 3050 is a great card ONLY IF it were priced a bunch lower from launch.
I normally buy the most high end card you can get from both sides I have a PC with a 4090 and another with 7900XTX I recently built a new PC for my son and grabbed a RX7600 8GB and honestly it's been a beast for our library it even runs msfs2020 on a mix of high and ultra presets and does better at that game over my wife's 3080Ti. but in my experience AMD had better performance all around with flight simulator 2020. and I think that's because of the Xboxes hardware and this game was tweaked to run better on the Xbox. but that's just the theory
RT isn't really a fair comparison since the 3050 does have 2 more GBs than the 6500xt, and RT is VRAM intensive, with that being said it would be interesting to see how a 6500xt 8GB variant does against the 3050
I bought both cards on launch to test and paid pandemic prices for them. I intended to sell them when i was done but kept both, the 3050 because it was ok, and the 6500xt because i couldnt of lived with myself passing such junk on to someone else
I have been noticing, it appears that Radeon GPUs produce a clearer image with sharper colors opposed to Nvidia having a rather "hazy" image. What is up with that?
There are just too many short comings with the RX6500. The PCI X4 bus, external power is required, 4gb of Vram, no Low profile version.... Just having that extra 2gb of Vram gives it a much smoother experience in a wider range of applications.
Amazing all those wonderfull AMD GPU offers turn up in the comments, but dont show up in the price comparing websites. Congratulations sir! You got a real bargain because they are starting at 170€ over here.
3050 6GB Shader units 2304 TMUs 72 ROPs 32 Memory Size 6 GB Memory Type GDDR6 Bus Width 96 bit Cost 200 euro's 99% of the time 6500 XT Shader Units 1024 TMUs 64 ROPs 32 Memory Size 4 GB Memory Type GDDR6 Bus Width 64 bit price 170 euro's 99% of the time RX 6600 Shader Units 1792 TMUs 112 ROPs 64 Memory Size 8 GB Memory Type GDDR6 Bus Width 128 bit Price 200 to 209 euro's Flucutation of 10 euros A RX 6600 would have been interesting to me as these are only 10 euro's different in most countries if not all of the EU region including ofc brexit land itself. It's a real shame Ngreedia never made a 4050 and released it for a good price. That would have been really nice to see. But with the prices currently it doesnt make sense as the 4060 really is a 4050 that's been oc'd. The Shader / unit config is proof of that. Bizarre to see a Navi 2 card against a peer with half the units and getting close. 1000 shaders nearly catching one with double if not more with 2300 on the same generation. God the ALU's on AMD are strong.
No real surprises there. Personally I'd go with the 3050 out of the two cars, performs better, has more VRAM, and doesn't need an extra PCI-E power connector, no-brainer really.....
Does the 3050 lp have comparable performance than the regular 3050? I want to put it in a dell optiplex sff 7050 with a i7 7700 that i got for free to get a dirty cheap, small, power efficient and capable rig.
The RX6500XT is virtually the same price as the RX6600 new on Amazon - with that power connector, the 6500XT is AMD's most pointless card. The RX6400 has no power connector but, based on the performance of the 6500XT, the 6400 would be even less of a performer. The RTX3050 6GB at least has a usage scenario for low-wattage systems - I'd like to see how it compares to the Arc A380 for example, especially as some, like the ASRock ITX version or their LP version, have no power connector. The A380 is really budget, though - new ones can be had for £120, though obviously it's no good in older systems that don't support PCIe Gen 4 or Resizable BAR in the motherboard BIOS.
Anyone has a good link explaining (hopefully in technical terms too) the whole why the RTX 3050 performs better on PCIE 3.0 motherboards than the RX 6500 XT?
I found a Dell RTX 3050 8GB locally the other day... Unlike the regular RTX 3050, it only takes a 6 pin PCI power cable Does anyone have this and how does it come to the regular RTX 3050?
If only AMD did AN RX 7500 XT 8GB for the same price then they'd clean up. AMD used to be the budget choice but lately they seem to have forgotten the budget gamer.
The best content made for people without a multi thousand dollar budget
could be better with 720p coverage, but well done. "B+" for effort LOL
I also recommand "Budget builds" if you like unreasonable cheap gaming 😅
True though for Rx560 720 is worse than higher it can get weird@@DICIEMBRE1977
@@philspam2087 I love me some budget builds!
you don't need a multi thousand dollar budget to buy at least a 4060, or at least a 6800, lol, just brain and some money management, unless you are a kid living in your mom basement or live in a third world country I don't see how someone who has a job can't afford a 500 dollar gpu, lol. 3050 and 6500 xt are atrocious cards and you should not even look at them, they are awful from a price to performance standpoint, you are better just buying an old 980 ti or a 1060 than those especially if you are low on budget, you probably don't even have pci 4.0 so this cards make absolutely no sense for you, xD
Here in Italy 6500 xt is like 150 euro, and 3050 6gb 175 ish. Both pretty terrible stuff when rx 6600 with much better performance and 8 gb of ram starts at around 190 euro
There are young people in Italy???!
@@TheFalseShepphard YEs, some of us was born after 1690
Plus the rx 6600's low power draw is really appealing
the 7600 is not much more where i live and the performance is up to 10% and cooling up to 20% better. At least comparung my brothers 6600 and my 7600.
ALSO rx 580 is getting a rerelese it will cost 75€ and have 8 g of vram
I think this is where the usage case of 3050 6GB really shines. The biggest fumble with the 6500XT is not only those lanes but the requirement of the 6-pin. Slapping the 3050 6GB into a semi-modern office PC (10th Gen and below) is a no brainer. You even get more VRAM.
🙂 it also works with ancient Pentium 4 and Core 2 Duo oem pcs
@@MrSamadolfo Every card that is pci-express works on any system with pci-express motherboard, you can put 4090 to pentium 4.
nobody should be buying the 3050 when the 6600 still exists
Very true for people that aren't building their own system with a new power supply unit, it works great in systems without that extra PSU power connector.
I bought the low profile variant of the 3050 to slap into my ultra thin SFF that also has an 11th gen i9 in it. It does have its use cases, for sure.
I remember when the 750, 950, and 1050 were actual great value 50 series cards. Idk what drugs Nvidia is on to make them way worse as their GPU architecture got better.
It's called capitalism and corporate greed. They go where money goes. This is why better competition is what we needed but most of them are taping on some occasions making Nvidia douchebagery prices undefeated.. I'm kinda rooting for amd and intel too but with recent news, we can say Nvidia can do a douchebag move for the next years
Nah the 950 was trash. Other than the 980/980Ti, the 900 series was terrible.
The 750ti and 1050ti still chug along for low end
😊 i have all three
@@josephbryanasuncion4904it's called consumers are stupid, they should get used cards and stop e-waste
Now that you mentioned the GTX 1080, comparing these cards and other used options would be interesting to watch. I saw in the comments people recommending the 5700 XT, the 2060, and 2070 as better options
Absolutely crush these lol. Need a decent psu though, mostly for the 5700xt/1080. (Saying that while running 2600 oc and a red devil 5700xt on a corsair vs450 lmao 😅)
@@lagginswag 1660/2060 should work fine on VS450. Interesting how the 1660 performs better than RTX3050 6GB and it used to cost 210€ 4 years ago. It is like the mid range and high range evolved (Mid range quite less) and entry level got stuck in time or even regressed in some cases.
2070 is a better option than 1080 in every possible way
I bought a Asrock Phantom Gaming 6500xt off FB marketplace a couple of months ago for just 50 USD. A steal for the price and good as a backup gpu/display adapter.
Gotta love the dachshund with the ball chasing apettite for the end of the video
😁
But my Rx6500XT was the only card available during the shortage 😭😭😭
Yeah I think that’s the reason a lot of people got one. It’s not that bad at all in 4.0 mode
@@RandomGaminginHDit was absolutly trash paired with a 5600g.
6600xt/6650xt is the far better choise for +50 bucks
Warzone 1440p ultra/high 55-60fps without upscaling
@@philspam2087 bruh he ain't talking about rn he's talking about during the times of GPU shortage when rx 6600 was like 350$ and 6500xt was only 200$
@@philspam2087i don’t think anyone recommends buying a new 6500xt in a world where the 6600 exists for slightly more money. However this was not always the case. I bought a 6500xt on launch day for $199 when the 6600 was $400.
Well, you were lucky. I only could buy a Gtx 1650 whose performance is below of the Rx 6500 xt
9:47 "come on mate please dont do that to me"
Unless you only buy new, or have a low-profile computer that lacks any external PSU connector, there's almost no reason to go for a RTX 3050 when you can buy used RTX 2070/2080 which offers up to 100% increase in performance for around the same price or slightly higher for the Super models. Even the Rx6600 can be found new for around 40 eur. more and offers a similar 100% increase in performance. In general, there's almost no reason to get a 3050 unless that is the only GPU available for your budget.
Edit: Adjusted % increase in performance from conservative values of 20% to 100%
Every card you mentioned is at least 70% faster than a 3050 6GB. The 2080 is a solid 200% as fast.
and your first point is exactly it. a lot of casual gamers or people who just need a computer are too scared to shop used. they won't touch it with a 10 foot pole bcs it'll fuck them over if it breaks and there's no warranty. they want assurance and safety with a new GPU, and couldn't care less for how much less performance it provides.
and yes the 6600 exists but 40 EUR is a LOT in many developing countries.
6600 is 100% more performance
@@PizzaUndervolt The 6600 and 2070 are both about 70% faster, as far as I'm aware. The 6600 XT might hit that 100%. ...or I could know nothing and be talking out of my butt. 🤣
You forgot about power consumption low profile gpu are made to consume less power but lose performance
I tried a 3050 for a few months, it's pretty amazing how well the "low end" performs these days.
Yeah the 8gb one is definitely better but the 6gb card is perfect for oem upgrades and such. Pretty capable too just a bit expensive
If you're truly budget gamer, you're using something like an i3 or Ryzen 3 4300 like me.. I am not in the tax bracket for a 4070 even though I am working. I have dependents so I can't necessarily pick up a second job and be away from home in the evenings and always be tired for the sake of a 4060 or 4070, maybe 5 years ago but not today. So GPUs like 3050 exist because there are people who simply can't just add $100 more for a better GPU.
@@jordanmntungwa3311 true but honestly I think at that budget range it's better to buy used gpu. nowadays there isn't good low end or midrange market like there used to be.
ive used a 1660 super which is pretty much the same thing for the last 4 years and its been excellent, i just got a 6800xt today though and it is a welcome upgrade
@jordanmntungwa3311 buy used!!! The 3050 6GB is a gtx 1660 super with dlss. An RTX 2060 will destroy it for every use case.
Why video on the left side of the screen is a bit hazy and right one has more contrast?
Thanks for the video!
if i recall correctly, amd and nvida record differently, irl it shouldnt look different.
in my experience, amd colors always look better, in games, recoded and on youtube, i do prefer colorts on amd gpus
3050 6 GB is a misunderstood card. It is the most powerful card in the world that doesn't require external power and the closest other option is around $400.
It is but... the ratio price to performance is horrendous honestly.
I think the only criticism people have is the naming. They should have called it 3040 and people would love it
Maybe 3040ti or just call it 3050 LP(low profile or low power consumption)，also at a lower price tag
@MasoMathiou it's best in it's class though. That much performance via the pcie slot alone makes it a very versatile card. You could put that thing in almost anything, and play games. AMD releasing these budget options with x4 lanes limits their viability ALOT.
They should just call it rtx3030 and still it will get trashed.
With the Rx 6600 in the market for 200$ or less I don´t see the point to get these graphic cards, but if you can buy them for 100$ brandnew I think is not a bad choice.
For weaker systems like pre builts and or crappie psus generally.
It just goes to show that the combination of only having 4 PCIe lanes, a 64-bit bus and only 4GB of VRAM is still an issue for the 6500 XT... even in a Gen4 slot. You can really see that in the 1% and .1% lows in some of the tests. They do have an 8GB version, but it costs as much as an RX 6600, so it's entirely irrelevant and the 4GB model should just be forgotten as well.
Indeed. Plus in PCIE 3.0 mode the older RX5500 outperformed the 6500XT!
Whats crazy is the price. This would be perfectly fine at $99. Not sure why the cost is so high in the face of the obviously better choice, 3050 6gb
@@TheSpotify95 Yep, because the 5500 wasn't a pilfered laptop GPU they slapped on a PCB to sell as a desktop card. Seems that's becoming the norm for the low end these days.
@@evers6214 Absolutely, and the 3050 6GB full height cards should be closer to $150, if not less. The low profile cards make sense at that price range, but the full height cards need to be cheaper for sure as well.
I can't get a rx 5500xt for my SSF system... But I can get a rx 6500xt or a rtx 3050 6GB for almost the same price...
With these low end cards it would have been nice to see 720p same settings and Maxed out for true budget gamers that want FPS at the low end. Thanks. Did you mention that the 6500XT is truly designed for mobile laptops and such low power applications thus the 4 pci-e lanes and not like the 3050 with 8 lanes.
3050 6GB is on the price level of 6600 (much better card) , and 6500XT almost disappeared .
Here the 6600 is 40 euro more expensive and if you don't mind the terrible power consumption for the performance it's way better. And if you're spending more money anyway the 7600 or 4060 is about 50 euro more than 6600 etc etc
@@erikkarsies4851
More fps = more power consumption
Where in the world theybhave the same price. Rtx 3050 6gb is only 160 here brand new, while RX 6600 is 230 dollars brand new. There is 70 dollars gap.
@@hbzero2605the 3050 8GB, RX6600 and the 4060 8GB were all around 120W. Which is why the 3050 needed a cut down 70W version to be of any use.
@@erikkarsies4851 In which country ? In Serbia cheapest 3050 6G is around 205 euro, and cheapest 6600 is 214 euro.
Thanks for the previous video...I went on steam and snatched that deal up real quick😂😂
This is actually a really good way to see the effects 1 and .1% lows on smoothness of gameplay. Even though both cards were getting around 60FPS in RDR2, the 6500XT's gameplay looked stuttery and awful.
Sick! I've been wanting to buy one of these just because (lmao). Thanks for this one.
If there wasn't a shortage happening during the 6500xt's release I think it would've been a huge flop.
Depends on the price, I mean nvidia still selling GT710 and probably sold millions of them.
The 6500XT may never have happened if there wasn't a shortage. Navi24 was supposedly designed as a low-end laptop chip, so they could always count on it being paired with a PCIe 4.0 laptop CPU and cut down the number of lanes to save power and die size. Then because laptops all have iGPUs with encoders and hardware video acceleration, they could ditch a lot of redundant silicon there too. And since it's going to pass frames back to the iGPU for the internal screen and maybe drive one HDMI out, it doesn't need to support four screens at once.
And then the shortage happened and Navi24 was such a small die you could get more than twice as many out of a wafer than you could make 6600(XT)s, so they factory overclocked the pants off of all of them and whipped up some PCIe card designs that needed less components and less PCB material, and sold them as a desktop GPU.
Edit: And anecdotally, even though there is no replacement, now that the shortages are over I'm seeing a lot less stock of 6500XTs whenever I check my preferred sellers of PC parts. There's less variants than at launch, and the ones that show quantity don't seem to keep a huge stock.
I appreciate the information you're giving me about.The 3.0 and 4.0 But just out of curiosity and it does make a big difference, the resizable bar, you never make a comment about that
Absolutely matters for intel cards
I have a 3050 KalmX which I got used because it's the most powerful passively cooled card you can get. I'd instantly switch to anything faster that I can get passively cooled out of the box. Maybe when the AMD 8500 XT or the nVidia RTX 5050 when they release (or whatever they'll end up being called).
I'm somewhat satisfied with my RTX 3050, about the most powerful card I could slot into my aging OEM-machine and it has been a substantial upgrade over GTX 1650. Of course the brand new 3DMark's Steel Nomad was there to put me into my place, but at least older titles run pretty well now. I wouldn't recommend the card to anyone not limited by their PSU(and no easy upgrade option in sight), but for my case it's been good (and easy) enough.
i think you should also consider the AFMF 2 tech on rx 6500xt too .... even on being driver level based frame gen AFMF 2 in many is very good and fps and latency is overall much better and feels like real fps .... it will be nice addition to benchmarks when using AMD gpus and it will be nice too know performance on different AMD gpu using AFMF 2.
Unless you need a 75W card if you want RT/DX12U functionality then I'd say a used 2060 and a tube of thermal paste is the best value around this price point. More performance and a full x16 connector.
RandomGaminginHD, This is sick!
The 6500XT's image looks cleaner.
The 3050, especially in its low profile form, is meant to be a step-up from the GTX 1650. It fits in an old SFF office PC and doesn't need external power. An old office PC with a 10th gen i5 and RAM bump with a 3050 is a cheap and usable 1080p gaming rig (be aware that there's effectively no upgrade path with these systems though).
The problem is that it's only 6GB RAM and 96bit memory bus, not enough of a step up from the 5 year old 1650 with 4GB and...128bit bus (but if it had 8GB that would eat into the 4060, and there's a low profile variant of that which unfortunately needs external power). It's also not a whole lot faster than a top spec iGPU.
There is also the RX 6500XT from PowerColor, the fighter version.
I'd like to see a comparison between the GTX 1660 Super and 3050 6GB
Sapphire also has couple 8GB models of the 6500XT. ITX PURE 8GB and PULSE 8GB
Did you use different settings when recording the RTX 3050 gameplay?
I feel like all the clips are less saturated and more blurry compared to the 6500 XT gameplay
I honestly wouldn't have thought that *anything* could be slower than a 3050. Man was I wrong!
There is RX6400 if you want to have a look, should be around 1650 performance and price, but same shitty 4 lane PCI and no HW encoding. Also GTX1630, with 1050ti performance. Wouldn't go bellow that today.
Well the 3050 6gb is not slow but worse price to performance. It actually has the performance same as the gtx1660, but no extra power connector required.
Don't also forget the RX 5500.
Remember, you did a test previously with RX 5500 compared with RX 6500XT and in some cases, the 5500 won outright (compared to the 6500XT) and the 5500 always won in PCIe 3.0 mode. So for a PCIe 3.0 system also look for the RX 5500.
🙂 sure the 5500 is close to an RX 580
@@MrSamadolfo no 580 better than 5500 is on par with 5500xt
that gpu is only found used, 6500 is new, for some regions that does matter because used gpus on some markets are horrible
I got an Arc A770 16GB Bifrost for $150 😊
I bought a RTX 3050 8GB in 2022 for $350 i know the price is abit rough for the 3050 but the country i live in has very strict taxes you pay on Electronics in my Country very happy with my 3050 and have peace of mind knowing i have the more powerful card with more VRAM def helps alot if you wanna play games at Ultra settings
Im honestly Quite suprised by what thw RTX 3050 6GB can achieve its definitely a card if you're tight on a Budget or just wanna slap it in a Office Pc. The 6GB VRAM could become a issue in the future coz i use over 6GB of VRAM in Cyberpunk witb the settings cranked everything to high and SSR to Ultra with DLSS Quality and achive 60+ mostly
The 6600 is really the best alternative here. The 3050 6GB shines though in a low power build, a low profile build, or something that will take advantage of Nvenc or CUDA like a budget stream or editing PC.
Those frame time graphs in the first RDR2 benchmark - yikes! That's quite a difference!!
This is what I wanted to see
You mean which of those gimped cards is less bad right?
If you have the case space and the pcie cable son your PSU you can get an aliexpress rx 5700 xt that has a 70 percent performance uplift and more vram. Not every office PC especially with oem PSUs will allow this but Id say its worth it if you meet the requirements
Seems like, in Radeon range, RX 6600 is only logical option... Shouldn't RTX 3050 be rival of RX 6400 as budget card? Did AMD took the crown from GT x10 cards as top range display adapter?
Next you should compare the Ryzen 4070 to the GTX 4090XT
RTX 3050 8Gb starts at 30 euro more expensive than RTX 3050 6Gb and 4Gb RX 6500 XT in our country now. I think a better choice? (If you do have a GPU power connector of course)
Yes, it is better choice...though you might also find RX6600 for same price which is even better.
@@mclarenf1gtr99 Uses more power for less features, but off course that's an option too. So better is arguably disputable.
@@erikkarsies4851 RX6600 doesn't consume much more and has much better performance, it is shit at RTX but so is RTX3050. What actually makes 3050 better is in productivity.
"yeah, i play all games at maximum settings 1440p. it ROCKS!!"
said every 3050 user
lol ye with dlss on ultra performance 30fps.
my buddy with a gtx 1650 laptop says he plays cyberpunk at 1080p max settings and gets 60fps
1080 p all the way
diagusting games..
...24fps...extremely playable...
Just picked up a 6300 2GB today. Was kinda hoping it would be better than what it is, but it IS an upgrade from the rx 550 just not much of one.
eyy I'm rocking this gpu in my R5 5600g build
FWIW, Intel A580 cards should be sitting right around the same price, around 160 USD. How do its results slot comparatively, for the "new electronics smell" crowd?
i was wondering how these compare and couldn't find any comparisons
It all depends on what you use the cards for. I mean what games do you play on your PC. I own a 6500xt because it was the only entry card I could get at the time. I play the new games on my Xbox and use the PC for older, less demanding games. For that the 6500xt is fine. Not good but fine... And I run it on PCI 3.0 because I have a cheap system. I wish it was much better than what I paid ( now I could get a 6600 for the same price!) . Am I happy with the card? NO!
Lower power usage, more VRAM, more versatile performance, crushes video editing, excellent media encoders, RTX broadcast, RTX HDR, RTX Video HDR, RTX VSR, DLSS infinitely better at 1080p.
3050 6GB is good if you are limited by space, power and connectors. There isn’t much competition for people with that use case. However if you have the space and power you can probably find something much faster. At least here the Intel 750 and Radeon 6600 was just on sale for about 10% more and you get much more than 10% better performance.
I considered both of these recently but ended up with a used 5700XT and it's much better.
Over here 6500 is half the price of 3050, so...
Unlucky people over there. Over it's almost the same price. At least if you ignore build quality. The better card is the more the 6500 xt even tends to be more expensive here.
yeah im saving for a 3060 12gb to replace my 3050 6gb. i learned in hogwarts legacy if i want to halve my fps put on raytracing on low. but i doesnt need external power and does surprisingly well for what it is.
Before even watching the video, the 3050 is 70 Watts, the 6500 XT is 107 so the 3050 has already won.
3050 6gb doesn't need a 8pin power connector, the rx 6500 xt needs one. 3050 6gb has use cases, to put in old office pc's with proprietary power supply
You have to put the 6500 XT in context ... when it came out, it was around 300$ CAD and the RTX 3050 was over 400$ CAD during the GPUpocalypse. In terms of Frames per dollar, the 6500 XT at the time was way more economical. In terms of performance, 6500 XT is about the same as an RX 580 in PCIe 4.0. RX 570 in PCIe 3.0. Totally playable, just not great. I do find that the Frame Generation does help the card quite a bit.
There are no bad GPUs, just bad prices. If the 6500 XT was still being made ( I think production stopped, someone can correct me ) ... it should be less than 150$ CAD. RTX 3050 is still a bit pricey for what it gives you as a generational replacement for the GTX 1650.
He is talking about yhe rtx 3050 6gb not the 8gb original variant. 3050 6gb is cheaper than 6500xt
RX580 was great back in 2019 and it cost less than what 6500XT is today and had hardware encoding, plus it has double VRAM which not being important in 2019, it is very much important today when many games require at least 6GB/8GB of VRAM. And Frame Generation is useless if you don't have additional VRAM, plus it is awful tech, you need at least 50fps to feel any good as input lag is major killer, and with 50+ you can already play the game. Better just use upscaler or not play game at all.
Considering 6500XT is basically a much gimped RX580 with lower TDP and recent drivers, and was always more expensive, it is certainly a bad card. Same could be said about RTX3050 6GB, but that one is actually better for about same price, has usable VRAM, hardware encoding, more efficient, 8xPCI lanes for old systems, so it is worth a look...once it hits 160€ or lower.
A very interesting benchmark video. RX 6500 XT turned out disappointing, the card is in a no-man's land. It's too slow for a gaming card, RTX 3050 is outright better, worth the premium between these 2 cards.
3050 even the 6gb version is a much better card than the RX 6500xt
But with the same price or even lower you can get second hand RX 6600 that have performance equal to RTX 2060
Which is definitely above 3050 even the 8gb version
RX6600s have the same performance outside of RT as a 2060S mate, better purchase than the 8GB 3050 let alone the 6GB, unless you need a 75W card that is.
I did have a rx 6500 xt and it is a really good low end budget card
Haven’t been paying attention to pc hardware for the last 12 months or so….how on earth is the 6500xt still £150 here? Pretty sure it was the same price this time last year!
I have a gtx 1660 super paired with an i5 8500 and 16gb of ram ddr4 at 2666mhz do you guys think that with this combo an rtx 3050 would be a good upgrade?
no, the rtx 3050 is not that big of an upgrade over your 1660 super. you will have to go bigger.
The 3050 is undoubtedly the better card. The only problem around it is the price point it's been at for the longest time. If it can drop closer to the RX 6500 XT prices.....it would be better received. I have a laptop with the 3050 and it runs pretty well. Slightly better than the 1660S desktop. but nothing close to the RX 6600 and its XT and 6650XT variants.
Long story short... 3050 is a great card ONLY IF it were priced a bunch lower from launch.
3050 best option, the performance its powerfull consider the watts and it has NVENC and DLSS, also you can use Frame generation amd
I normally buy the most high end card you can get from both sides I have a PC with a 4090 and another with 7900XTX
I recently built a new PC for my son and grabbed a RX7600 8GB and honestly it's been a beast for our library it even runs msfs2020 on a mix of high and ultra presets and does better at that game over my wife's 3080Ti. but in my experience AMD had better performance all around with flight simulator 2020. and I think that's because of the Xboxes hardware and this game was tweaked to run better on the Xbox. but that's just the theory
RT isn't really a fair comparison since the 3050 does have 2 more GBs than the 6500xt, and RT is VRAM intensive, with that being said it would be interesting to see how a 6500xt 8GB variant does against the 3050
Man, at the beginning of 2020 you could get a brand new 1650 Super (DDR 6)for £130.
Inflation is bloody real!
Maybe it's a market difference Euro to US but the prices on a 3050 6gb are the same as a RX 6600 non-XT which will destroy either card
3050 6GB is 200€ in my country. Whi8le the 6500xt and RX6600 are also both at 200€ ...
what CPU did you pair these cards with?
Is it me or do the colors in RDR2 look more vibrant on Radeon?
I bought both cards on launch to test and paid pandemic prices for them. I intended to sell them when i was done but kept both, the 3050 because it was ok, and the 6500xt because i couldnt of lived with myself passing such junk on to someone else
Was Sam enabled for the 6500xt?
I have been noticing, it appears that Radeon GPUs produce a clearer image with sharper colors opposed to Nvidia having a rather "hazy" image. What is up with that?
bad nvidia as always..
More like: Which Budget GPU is WORSE? lol
There are so many better options in the aftermarket.
why do the colors look so much better on the 6500 xt?
The RTX 3050 probably wins at ray tracing and DLSS performance and not much else.
In traditional rendering the Radeon RX 6500 most likely is better.
There are just too many short comings with the RX6500. The PCI X4 bus, external power is required, 4gb of Vram, no Low profile version.... Just having that extra 2gb of Vram gives it a much smoother experience in a wider range of applications.
The PCIe x4 really is a crippling bottleneck. You can't even use the card to upgrade older machines. What was the point??
I got a 6500Xt from Asus for 50€ from my town. Im Very surprised for 50€
Amazing all those wonderfull AMD GPU offers turn up in the comments, but dont show up in the price comparing websites. Congratulations sir! You got a real bargain because they are starting at 170€ over here.
3050 6GB
Shader units 2304
TMUs 72
ROPs 32
Memory Size 6 GB
Memory Type GDDR6
Bus Width 96 bit
Cost 200 euro's 99% of the time
6500 XT
Shader Units 1024
TMUs 64
ROPs 32
Memory Size 4 GB
Memory Type GDDR6
Bus Width 64 bit
price 170 euro's 99% of the time
RX 6600
Shader Units 1792
TMUs 112
ROPs 64
Memory Size 8 GB
Memory Type GDDR6
Bus Width 128 bit
Price 200 to 209 euro's Flucutation of 10 euros
A RX 6600 would have been interesting to me as these are only 10 euro's different in most countries if not all of the EU region including ofc brexit land itself.
It's a real shame Ngreedia never made a 4050 and released it for a good price. That would have been really nice to see. But with the prices currently it doesnt make sense as the 4060 really is a 4050 that's been oc'd. The Shader / unit config is proof of that. Bizarre to see a Navi 2 card against a peer with half the units and getting close. 1000 shaders nearly catching one with double if not more with 2300 on the same generation. God the ALU's on AMD are strong.
got the lp 6gb 3050, good stuff
No real surprises there. Personally I'd go with the 3050 out of the two cars, performs better, has more VRAM, and doesn't need an extra PCI-E power connector, no-brainer really.....
CEX are doing a RX 6600 8gb for £150 these days
Does the 3050 lp have comparable performance than the regular 3050?
I want to put it in a dell optiplex sff 7050 with a i7 7700 that i got for free to get a dirty cheap, small, power efficient and capable rig.
i kinda prefer the image quality of the 6500 xt in wukong. how is there such a difference?
Finally, a video for the people in the 3rd World countries who need to build a full setup with just $500.
should throw in the A580 too, i'd bet the A580 would be way better than both at this price class
The RX6500XT is virtually the same price as the RX6600 new on Amazon - with that power connector, the 6500XT is AMD's most pointless card. The RX6400 has no power connector but, based on the performance of the 6500XT, the 6400 would be even less of a performer. The RTX3050 6GB at least has a usage scenario for low-wattage systems - I'd like to see how it compares to the Arc A380 for example, especially as some, like the ASRock ITX version or their LP version, have no power connector. The A380 is really budget, though - new ones can be had for £120, though obviously it's no good in older systems that don't support PCIe Gen 4 or Resizable BAR in the motherboard BIOS.
How would these cards run Space Marine 2?
Anyone has a good link explaining (hopefully in technical terms too) the whole why the RTX 3050 performs better on PCIE 3.0 motherboards than the RX 6500 XT?
I found a Dell RTX 3050 8GB locally the other day...
Unlike the regular RTX 3050, it only takes a 6 pin PCI power cable
Does anyone have this and how does it come to the regular RTX 3050?
Even the cut-down 6GB 3050 should comfortably see off the 6500XT.
Isn't the 6600 more price equivalent?
Glad I got my hands on a rx 6600 for 115$ 😎
i own a 8gb Palidn 6500xt.. they run better than 4gb on pcie 3.0 its ran e5 1650
now do the a580 with this
If only AMD did AN RX 7500 XT 8GB for the same price then they'd clean up. AMD used to be the budget choice but lately they seem to have forgotten the budget gamer.
there is 8gb 6500 xt but all i've seen cost almost the same as 6600 (10$ diffrence), and at this point it makes no sense to buy it