you don't need a multi thousand dollar budget to buy at least a 4060, or at least a 6800, lol, just brain and some money management, unless you are a kid living in your mom basement or live in a third world country I don't see how someone who has a job can't afford a 500 dollar gpu, lol. 3050 and 6500 xt are atrocious cards and you should not even look at them, they are awful from a price to performance standpoint, you are better just buying an old 980 ti or a 1060 than those especially if you are low on budget, you probably don't even have pci 4.0 so this cards make absolutely no sense for you, xD
I think this is where the usage case of 3050 6GB really shines. The biggest fumble with the 6500XT is not only those lanes but the requirement of the 6-pin. Slapping the 3050 6GB into a semi-modern office PC (10th Gen and below) is a no brainer. You even get more VRAM.
Very true for people that aren't building their own system with a new power supply unit, it works great in systems without that extra PSU power connector.
@@zangetsu_the_best_zanpakuto That's true, but it's probably best for most people who are willing to customize the parts in a PC to just bite the bullet and invest in a new power supply (and a case or case modification which can accommodate it) so that you aren't limited to graphics cards like the RTX 3050
3050 6 GB is a misunderstood card. It is the most powerful card in the world that doesn't require external power and the closest other option is around $400.
@MasoMathiou it's best in it's class though. That much performance via the pcie slot alone makes it a very versatile card. You could put that thing in almost anything, and play games. AMD releasing these budget options with x4 lanes limits their viability ALOT.
I remember when the 750, 950, and 1050 were actual great value 50 series cards. Idk what drugs Nvidia is on to make them way worse as their GPU architecture got better.
It's called capitalism and corporate greed. They go where money goes. This is why better competition is what we needed but most of them are taping on some occasions making Nvidia douchebagery prices undefeated.. I'm kinda rooting for amd and intel too but with recent news, we can say Nvidia can do a douchebag move for the next years
Here in Italy 6500 xt is like 150 euro, and 3050 6gb 175 ish. Both pretty terrible stuff when rx 6600 with much better performance and 8 gb of ram starts at around 190 euro
If you're truly budget gamer, you're using something like an i3 or Ryzen 3 4300 like me.. I am not in the tax bracket for a 4070 even though I am working. I have dependents so I can't necessarily pick up a second job and be away from home in the evenings and always be tired for the sake of a 4060 or 4070, maybe 5 years ago but not today. So GPUs like 3050 exist because there are people who simply can't just add $100 more for a better GPU.
@@jordanmntungwa3311 true but honestly I think at that budget range it's better to buy used gpu. nowadays there isn't good low end or midrange market like there used to be.
ive used a 1660 super which is pretty much the same thing for the last 4 years and its been excellent, i just got a 6800xt today though and it is a welcome upgrade
Unless you only buy new, or have a low-profile computer that lacks any external PSU connector, there's almost no reason to go for a RTX 3050 when you can buy used RTX 2070/2080 which offers up to 100% increase in performance for around the same price or slightly higher for the Super models. Even the Rx6600 can be found new for around 40 eur. more and offers a similar 100% increase in performance. In general, there's almost no reason to get a 3050 unless that is the only GPU available for your budget. Edit: Adjusted % increase in performance from conservative values of 20% to 100%
and your first point is exactly it. a lot of casual gamers or people who just need a computer are too scared to shop used. they won't touch it with a 10 foot pole bcs it'll fuck them over if it breaks and there's no warranty. they want assurance and safety with a new GPU, and couldn't care less for how much less performance it provides. and yes the 6600 exists but 40 EUR is a LOT in many developing countries.
I'm not crazy about purchasing used gpu's since there is a good chance someone was using it mine crypto with it. just can't trust ppl to tell the truth
I bought a Asrock Phantom Gaming 6500xt off FB marketplace a couple of months ago for just 50 USD. A steal for the price and good as a backup gpu/display adapter.
The 6500XT may never have happened if there wasn't a shortage. Navi24 was supposedly designed as a low-end laptop chip, so they could always count on it being paired with a PCIe 4.0 laptop CPU and cut down the number of lanes to save power and die size. Then because laptops all have iGPUs with encoders and hardware video acceleration, they could ditch a lot of redundant silicon there too. And since it's going to pass frames back to the iGPU for the internal screen and maybe drive one HDMI out, it doesn't need to support four screens at once. And then the shortage happened and Navi24 was such a small die you could get more than twice as many out of a wafer than you could make 6600(XT)s, so they factory overclocked the pants off of all of them and whipped up some PCIe card designs that needed less components and less PCB material, and sold them as a desktop GPU. Edit: And anecdotally, even though there is no replacement, now that the shortages are over I'm seeing a lot less stock of 6500XTs whenever I check my preferred sellers of PC parts. There's less variants than at launch, and the ones that show quantity don't seem to keep a huge stock.
With the Rx 6600 in the market for 200$ or less I don´t see the point to get these graphic cards, but if you can buy them for 100$ brandnew I think is not a bad choice.
Now that you mentioned the GTX 1080, comparing these cards and other used options would be interesting to watch. I saw in the comments people recommending the 5700 XT, the 2060, and 2070 as better options
Absolutely crush these lol. Need a decent psu though, mostly for the 5700xt/1080. (Saying that while running 2600 oc and a red devil 5700xt on a corsair vs450 lmao 😅)
@@lagginswag 1660/2060 should work fine on VS450. Interesting how the 1660 performs better than RTX3050 6GB and it used to cost 210€ 4 years ago. It is like the mid range and high range evolved (Mid range quite less) and entry level got stuck in time or even regressed in some cases.
I can imagine Steve doing a retro review of amiga 500 vs Atari ST and Megadrive vs Snes would be fun ;) It would need to be all filmed on a 90s camcorder pointed at the 15" bedroom CRT screen that most of us would have been using.
It just goes to show that the combination of only having 4 PCIe lanes, a 64-bit bus and only 4GB of VRAM is still an issue for the 6500 XT... even in a Gen4 slot. You can really see that in the 1% and .1% lows in some of the tests. They do have an 8GB version, but it costs as much as an RX 6600, so it's entirely irrelevant and the 4GB model should just be forgotten as well.
@@TheSpotify95 Yep, because the 5500 wasn't a pilfered laptop GPU they slapped on a PCB to sell as a desktop card. Seems that's becoming the norm for the low end these days.
@@evers6214 Absolutely, and the 3050 6GB full height cards should be closer to $150, if not less. The low profile cards make sense at that price range, but the full height cards need to be cheaper for sure as well.
I appreciate the information you're giving me about.The 3.0 and 4.0 But just out of curiosity and it does make a big difference, the resizable bar, you never make a comment about that
This is actually a really good way to see the effects 1 and .1% lows on smoothness of gameplay. Even though both cards were getting around 60FPS in RDR2, the 6500XT's gameplay looked stuttery and awful.
I believe the RTX 3050 6GB should be a ~$100 USD max GPU (new)considering what it offers todays gaming market. Saying that, being a 75watt GPU and not requiring a pci-E connector is a vg feat considering what is actually does offer in terms of FPS 😇💪🥰👍
@@RandomGaminginHDit was absolutly trash paired with a 5600g. 6600xt/6650xt is the far better choise for +50 bucks Warzone 1440p ultra/high 55-60fps without upscaling
@@philspam2087i don’t think anyone recommends buying a new 6500xt in a world where the 6600 exists for slightly more money. However this was not always the case. I bought a 6500xt on launch day for $199 when the 6600 was $400.
I got the 6500 xt when my gpu died at the end of the covid era when there were no gpus and today im still using it.With radeon virtual super resolution i can game at 1440p on my 1080p monitor and use FSR balance mode to boost fps. i see no reason to upgrade yet until the next gen consoles launch with 16gb of vram then i will upgrade.
Wild the jump between a 3050 6gb to a 3060 12gb but lack of jump from a 3060 12gb to a 3070 8gb Nvidia you need to fix your marketing, slicing Bus size on RTX 4 series made a lot of 60 series buyers ignore the 4060
Weird thing I've noticed, the AMD GPU gives a better image. More contrast, brighter colors, is it due to GPU settings in their software, recording options, or they just process image differently?
Probably different image processing. This also used to happen on my Lenovo Legion 5 when I was using the AMD iGPU and not the RTX 3060 Laptop. Colors looked washed out with the 3060, and needed to be tweaked via the Control Panel. But after a Windows clean install and a BIOS update, my RTX 3060 Laptop now outputs about the same image quality as my iGPU used to do (without any tweak in Control Panel) before I disable it with MUX switch when driver issues occured with it (I haven't enabled the iGPU ever since and did a clean Windows install when I got a 2TB NVME SSD and 2 BIOS updates).
@@rinsenpai135 That's hella interesting, my 1660 Super used to give my projector TOO much contrast. Blacks were crushed, colors oversaturated, everything bright was a tad too bright. Replaced it with an RX 6750 XT, now it's actually properly outputting the image
i had amd gpu but died so i bought an almost new 1650. I was shocked about the colour quality, then i searched on YT "Get Better Colors With Nvidia". Night and day difference. Same or better quality with nvidia, still prefer AMD's software.
It could also be because the color settings changed after you installed the new card. This has happened to me before when switching from an AMD card to an Nvidia card. I lived with the difference for many months, and it was only when I saw an interesting article suggesting that I check a certain setting to make sure that I had the best color that I found out that I wasn't imagining the apparently worse image quality. I believe what settings are best will depend on your display, but I seem to recall that the article was saying that most monitors would look better with a certain color setting but that for some reason, people were often getting a different setting as the default setting. Now, don't ask me to remember exactly what the setting was called, or where it was. It might be worth doing some searching on this topic.
I'm somewhat satisfied with my RTX 3050, about the most powerful card I could slot into my aging OEM-machine and it has been a substantial upgrade over GTX 1650. Of course the brand new 3DMark's Steel Nomad was there to put me into my place, but at least older titles run pretty well now. I wouldn't recommend the card to anyone not limited by their PSU(and no easy upgrade option in sight), but for my case it's been good (and easy) enough.
Here the 6600 is 40 euro more expensive and if you don't mind the terrible power consumption for the performance it's way better. And if you're spending more money anyway the 7600 or 4060 is about 50 euro more than 6600 etc etc
I have a 3050 KalmX which I got used because it's the most powerful passively cooled card you can get. I'd instantly switch to anything faster that I can get passively cooled out of the box. Maybe when the AMD 8500 XT or the nVidia RTX 5050 when they release (or whatever they'll end up being called).
You have to put the 6500 XT in context ... when it came out, it was around 300$ CAD and the RTX 3050 was over 400$ CAD during the GPUpocalypse. In terms of Frames per dollar, the 6500 XT at the time was way more economical. In terms of performance, 6500 XT is about the same as an RX 580 in PCIe 4.0. RX 570 in PCIe 3.0. Totally playable, just not great. I do find that the Frame Generation does help the card quite a bit. There are no bad GPUs, just bad prices. If the 6500 XT was still being made ( I think production stopped, someone can correct me ) ... it should be less than 150$ CAD. RTX 3050 is still a bit pricey for what it gives you as a generational replacement for the GTX 1650.
RX580 was great back in 2019 and it cost less than what 6500XT is today and had hardware encoding, plus it has double VRAM which not being important in 2019, it is very much important today when many games require at least 6GB/8GB of VRAM. And Frame Generation is useless if you don't have additional VRAM, plus it is awful tech, you need at least 50fps to feel any good as input lag is major killer, and with 50+ you can already play the game. Better just use upscaler or not play game at all. Considering 6500XT is basically a much gimped RX580 with lower TDP and recent drivers, and was always more expensive, it is certainly a bad card. Same could be said about RTX3050 6GB, but that one is actually better for about same price, has usable VRAM, hardware encoding, more efficient, 8xPCI lanes for old systems, so it is worth a look...once it hits 160€ or lower.
With these low end cards it would have been nice to see 720p same settings and Maxed out for true budget gamers that want FPS at the low end. Thanks. Did you mention that the 6500XT is truly designed for mobile laptops and such low power applications thus the 4 pci-e lanes and not like the 3050 with 8 lanes.
@@HapPawhere yes, but from what I gather its not pretty and native res. seems to be the winner is most cases, but we need to see more testing videos on the details.
Unless you need a 75W card if you want RT/DX12U functionality then I'd say a used 2060 and a tube of thermal paste is the best value around this price point. More performance and a full x16 connector.
FWIW, Intel A580 cards should be sitting right around the same price, around 160 USD. How do its results slot comparatively, for the "new electronics smell" crowd?
Don't also forget the RX 5500. Remember, you did a test previously with RX 5500 compared with RX 6500XT and in some cases, the 5500 won outright (compared to the 6500XT) and the 5500 always won in PCIe 3.0 mode. So for a PCIe 3.0 system also look for the RX 5500.
The 3050, especially in its low profile form, is meant to be a step-up from the GTX 1650. It fits in an old SFF office PC and doesn't need external power. An old office PC with a 10th gen i5 and RAM bump with a 3050 is a cheap and usable 1080p gaming rig (be aware that there's effectively no upgrade path with these systems though). The problem is that it's only 6GB RAM and 96bit memory bus, not enough of a step up from the 5 year old 1650 with 4GB and...128bit bus (but if it had 8GB that would eat into the 4060, and there's a low profile variant of that which unfortunately needs external power). It's also not a whole lot faster than a top spec iGPU.
Who gets these cards? People who don't buy used under no circumstance I imagine, because I think you can get a 2070 for 150 pounds as well in the uk at the moment, and there is no comparison with that card. 2060 super, 2070 at that pricepoint. 5700xt as well if I recall. All better than the 3050 by a huge margin.
Ive been thinking of buying the rtx3050 6gb for my itx build, the performance is ok and it can actually let you play every game on normal preset, and no extra power connector needed for this card, that is a sweet spot.
G'day Random & Rupert, The Ray Tracing Chapter is why I still think there is room for GTX GPUs, 3050 should have been a 1750 & could have been cheaper because you are not paying for Diespace you are not using, plus while the prefix wouldn't change same for 6300/6400/6500.
The 6600 is really the best alternative here. The 3050 6GB shines though in a low power build, a low profile build, or something that will take advantage of Nvenc or CUDA like a budget stream or editing PC.
Did you use different settings when recording the RTX 3050 gameplay? I feel like all the clips are less saturated and more blurry compared to the 6500 XT gameplay
i think you should also consider the AFMF 2 tech on rx 6500xt too .... even on being driver level based frame gen AFMF 2 in many is very good and fps and latency is overall much better and feels like real fps .... it will be nice addition to benchmarks when using AMD gpus and it will be nice too know performance on different AMD gpu using AFMF 2.
Seems like, in Radeon range, RX 6600 is only logical option... Shouldn't RTX 3050 be rival of RX 6400 as budget card? Did AMD took the crown from GT x10 cards as top range display adapter?
RTX 3050 8Gb starts at 30 euro more expensive than RTX 3050 6Gb and 4Gb RX 6500 XT in our country now. I think a better choice? (If you do have a GPU power connector of course)
@@erikkarsies4851 RX6600 doesn't consume much more and has much better performance, it is shit at RTX but so is RTX3050. What actually makes 3050 better is in productivity.
Old workstation (6 core minimum preferably) plus RTX 3050 would seem like the easiest and least fussiest way for a gaming PC. Replacing the GTX1650 probably. On a different note, I was thinking about building a budget/mid range PC and choosing between RTX3060 and RX6650xt/RX6700xt (whichever is cheaper and available at the time). I know the AMD will be better value but the Nvidia's DLSS might be a deciding factor...
Just in the process of upgrading my system from 8th gen to 12th gen Intel, but going with an RTX 3060 (About $450AUD at the moment) from a GTX 1660 Ti.
Vulkan issue I also have with my 6900xt in red dead redemption. Game plays much better in dx12 mode in this specific game, but the issue is that to reduce the stutter, you need to enable async compute in the game config file. not ideal at all. I rather play in vulkan... However the game runs about the same in both in terms of performance
I bought a RTX 3050 8GB in 2022 for $350 i know the price is abit rough for the 3050 but the country i live in has very strict taxes you pay on Electronics in my Country very happy with my 3050 and have peace of mind knowing i have the more powerful card with more VRAM def helps alot if you wanna play games at Ultra settings Im honestly Quite suprised by what thw RTX 3050 6GB can achieve its definitely a card if you're tight on a Budget or just wanna slap it in a Office Pc. The 6GB VRAM could become a issue in the future coz i use over 6GB of VRAM in Cyberpunk witb the settings cranked everything to high and SSR to Ultra with DLSS Quality and achive 60+ mostly
There is RX6400 if you want to have a look, should be around 1650 performance and price, but same shitty 4 lane PCI and no HW encoding. Also GTX1630, with 1050ti performance. Wouldn't go bellow that today.
Well the 3050 6gb is not slow but worse price to performance. It actually has the performance same as the gtx1660, but no extra power connector required.
The 3050 6gb has it's merrits, an entry level card with a nice and low powerdraw that can deliver a playable experience in a lot of games! Only problem is that price, which is a big problem... at least in Denmark it's the same price as an Intel Arc A580 which even beats the 3050 8gb in most games. But of course there are still some games and areas where the Intel Arc cards are a little broken so... But the 3050 6gb is also very close in price to the RX 6600 which destroys it in every way imaginable... Also considering that the RX6600 only draws about 25 watts more power...
I had a quick look on Amazon for the prices. 3050 6GB goes for 185€ minimum. 6500XT goes for 160€ minimum. Seems to reflect the performance difference pretty closely, so bang for buck they are about the same.
I remember when you couldnt even get a use 750ti for $150... both cards are great... I have always been an NVIDIA guy until I got the asus ROG G15 advantage edition with the Ryzen 9 and rx 6800xt... it gives me less problems than my computer with a 4080 as far as compatability right out of the box.
The 3050 is undoubtedly the better card. The only problem around it is the price point it's been at for the longest time. If it can drop closer to the RX 6500 XT prices.....it would be better received. I have a laptop with the 3050 and it runs pretty well. Slightly better than the 1660S desktop. but nothing close to the RX 6600 and its XT and 6650XT variants. Long story short... 3050 is a great card ONLY IF it were priced a bunch lower from launch.
RT isn't really a fair comparison since the 3050 does have 2 more GBs than the 6500xt, and RT is VRAM intensive, with that being said it would be interesting to see how a 6500xt 8GB variant does against the 3050
A very interesting benchmark video. RX 6500 XT turned out disappointing, the card is in a no-man's land. It's too slow for a gaming card, RTX 3050 is outright better, worth the premium between these 2 cards.
3050 6GB is good if you are limited by space, power and connectors. There isn’t much competition for people with that use case. However if you have the space and power you can probably find something much faster. At least here the Intel 750 and Radeon 6600 was just on sale for about 10% more and you get much more than 10% better performance.
Lower power usage, more VRAM, more versatile performance, crushes video editing, excellent media encoders, RTX broadcast, RTX HDR, RTX Video HDR, RTX VSR, DLSS infinitely better at 1080p.
Unlucky people over there. Over it's almost the same price. At least if you ignore build quality. The better card is the more the 6500 xt even tends to be more expensive here.
3050 6gb doesn't need a 8pin power connector, the rx 6500 xt needs one. 3050 6gb has use cases, to put in old office pc's with proprietary power supply
3050 even the 6gb version is a much better card than the RX 6500xt But with the same price or even lower you can get second hand RX 6600 that have performance equal to RTX 2060 Which is definitely above 3050 even the 8gb version
RX6600s have the same performance outside of RT as a 2060S mate, better purchase than the 8GB 3050 let alone the 6GB, unless you need a 75W card that is.
The best content made for people without a multi thousand dollar budget
could be better with 720p coverage, but well done. "B+" for effort LOL
I also recommand "Budget builds" if you like unreasonable cheap gaming 😅
True though for Rx560 720 is worse than higher it can get weird@@DICIEMBRE1977
@@philspam2087 I love me some budget builds!
you don't need a multi thousand dollar budget to buy at least a 4060, or at least a 6800, lol, just brain and some money management, unless you are a kid living in your mom basement or live in a third world country I don't see how someone who has a job can't afford a 500 dollar gpu, lol. 3050 and 6500 xt are atrocious cards and you should not even look at them, they are awful from a price to performance standpoint, you are better just buying an old 980 ti or a 1060 than those especially if you are low on budget, you probably don't even have pci 4.0 so this cards make absolutely no sense for you, xD
I think this is where the usage case of 3050 6GB really shines. The biggest fumble with the 6500XT is not only those lanes but the requirement of the 6-pin. Slapping the 3050 6GB into a semi-modern office PC (10th Gen and below) is a no brainer. You even get more VRAM.
🙂 it also works with ancient Pentium 4 and Core 2 Duo oem pcs
nobody should be buying the 3050 when the 6600 still exists
Very true for people that aren't building their own system with a new power supply unit, it works great in systems without that extra PSU power connector.
I bought the low profile variant of the 3050 to slap into my ultra thin SFF that also has an 11th gen i9 in it. It does have its use cases, for sure.
@@zangetsu_the_best_zanpakuto That's true, but it's probably best for most people who are willing to customize the parts in a PC to just bite the bullet and invest in a new power supply (and a case or case modification which can accommodate it) so that you aren't limited to graphics cards like the RTX 3050
3050 6 GB is a misunderstood card. It is the most powerful card in the world that doesn't require external power and the closest other option is around $400.
It is but... the ratio price to performance is horrendous honestly.
I think the only criticism people have is the naming. They should have called it 3040 and people would love it
Maybe 3040ti or just call it 3050 LP(low profile or low power consumption)，also at a lower price tag
@MasoMathiou it's best in it's class though. That much performance via the pcie slot alone makes it a very versatile card. You could put that thing in almost anything, and play games. AMD releasing these budget options with x4 lanes limits their viability ALOT.
They should just call it rtx3030 and still it will get trashed.
I remember when the 750, 950, and 1050 were actual great value 50 series cards. Idk what drugs Nvidia is on to make them way worse as their GPU architecture got better.
It's called capitalism and corporate greed. They go where money goes. This is why better competition is what we needed but most of them are taping on some occasions making Nvidia douchebagery prices undefeated.. I'm kinda rooting for amd and intel too but with recent news, we can say Nvidia can do a douchebag move for the next years
Nah the 950 was trash. Other than the 980/980Ti, the 900 series was terrible.
The 750ti and 1050ti still chug along for low end
😊 i have all three
@@josephbryanasuncion4904it's called consumers are stupid, they should get used cards and stop e-waste
Here in Italy 6500 xt is like 150 euro, and 3050 6gb 175 ish. Both pretty terrible stuff when rx 6600 with much better performance and 8 gb of ram starts at around 190 euro
There are young people in Italy???!
@@TheFalseShepphard YEs, some of us was born after 1690
Plus the rx 6600's low power draw is really appealing
the 7600 is not much more where i live and the performance is up to 10% and cooling up to 20% better. At least comparung my brothers 6600 and my 7600.
ALSO rx 580 is getting a rerelese it will cost 75€ and have 8 g of vram
I tried a 3050 for a few months, it's pretty amazing how well the "low end" performs these days.
Yeah the 8gb one is definitely better but the 6gb card is perfect for oem upgrades and such. Pretty capable too just a bit expensive
If you're truly budget gamer, you're using something like an i3 or Ryzen 3 4300 like me.. I am not in the tax bracket for a 4070 even though I am working. I have dependents so I can't necessarily pick up a second job and be away from home in the evenings and always be tired for the sake of a 4060 or 4070, maybe 5 years ago but not today. So GPUs like 3050 exist because there are people who simply can't just add $100 more for a better GPU.
@@jordanmntungwa3311 true but honestly I think at that budget range it's better to buy used gpu. nowadays there isn't good low end or midrange market like there used to be.
ive used a 1660 super which is pretty much the same thing for the last 4 years and its been excellent, i just got a 6800xt today though and it is a welcome upgrade
@jordanmntungwa3311 buy used!!! The 3050 6GB is a gtx 1660 super with dlss. An RTX 2060 will destroy it for every use case.
Unless you only buy new, or have a low-profile computer that lacks any external PSU connector, there's almost no reason to go for a RTX 3050 when you can buy used RTX 2070/2080 which offers up to 100% increase in performance for around the same price or slightly higher for the Super models. Even the Rx6600 can be found new for around 40 eur. more and offers a similar 100% increase in performance. In general, there's almost no reason to get a 3050 unless that is the only GPU available for your budget.
Edit: Adjusted % increase in performance from conservative values of 20% to 100%
and your first point is exactly it. a lot of casual gamers or people who just need a computer are too scared to shop used. they won't touch it with a 10 foot pole bcs it'll fuck them over if it breaks and there's no warranty. they want assurance and safety with a new GPU, and couldn't care less for how much less performance it provides.
and yes the 6600 exists but 40 EUR is a LOT in many developing countries.
6600 is 100% more performance
You forgot about power consumption low profile gpu are made to consume less power but lose performance
I'm not crazy about purchasing used gpu's since there is a good chance someone was using it mine crypto with it. just can't trust ppl to tell the truth
I bought a Asrock Phantom Gaming 6500xt off FB marketplace a couple of months ago for just 50 USD. A steal for the price and good as a backup gpu/display adapter.
Gotta love the dachshund with the ball chasing apettite for the end of the video
😁
Love these types of videos, thank you.
If there wasn't a shortage happening during the 6500xt's release I think it would've been a huge flop.
The 6500XT may never have happened if there wasn't a shortage. Navi24 was supposedly designed as a low-end laptop chip, so they could always count on it being paired with a PCIe 4.0 laptop CPU and cut down the number of lanes to save power and die size. Then because laptops all have iGPUs with encoders and hardware video acceleration, they could ditch a lot of redundant silicon there too. And since it's going to pass frames back to the iGPU for the internal screen and maybe drive one HDMI out, it doesn't need to support four screens at once.
And then the shortage happened and Navi24 was such a small die you could get more than twice as many out of a wafer than you could make 6600(XT)s, so they factory overclocked the pants off of all of them and whipped up some PCIe card designs that needed less components and less PCB material, and sold them as a desktop GPU.
Edit: And anecdotally, even though there is no replacement, now that the shortages are over I'm seeing a lot less stock of 6500XTs whenever I check my preferred sellers of PC parts. There's less variants than at launch, and the ones that show quantity don't seem to keep a huge stock.
With the Rx 6600 in the market for 200$ or less I don´t see the point to get these graphic cards, but if you can buy them for 100$ brandnew I think is not a bad choice.
For weaker systems like pre builts and or crappie psus generally.
Now that you mentioned the GTX 1080, comparing these cards and other used options would be interesting to watch. I saw in the comments people recommending the 5700 XT, the 2060, and 2070 as better options
Absolutely crush these lol. Need a decent psu though, mostly for the 5700xt/1080. (Saying that while running 2600 oc and a red devil 5700xt on a corsair vs450 lmao 😅)
@@lagginswag 1660/2060 should work fine on VS450. Interesting how the 1660 performs better than RTX3050 6GB and it used to cost 210€ 4 years ago. It is like the mid range and high range evolved (Mid range quite less) and entry level got stuck in time or even regressed in some cases.
2070 is a better option than 1080 in every possible way
I can imagine Steve doing a retro review of amiga 500 vs Atari ST and Megadrive vs Snes would be fun ;) It would need to be all filmed on a 90s camcorder pointed at the 15" bedroom CRT screen that most of us would have been using.
It just goes to show that the combination of only having 4 PCIe lanes, a 64-bit bus and only 4GB of VRAM is still an issue for the 6500 XT... even in a Gen4 slot. You can really see that in the 1% and .1% lows in some of the tests. They do have an 8GB version, but it costs as much as an RX 6600, so it's entirely irrelevant and the 4GB model should just be forgotten as well.
Indeed. Plus in PCIE 3.0 mode the older RX5500 outperformed the 6500XT!
Whats crazy is the price. This would be perfectly fine at $99. Not sure why the cost is so high in the face of the obviously better choice, 3050 6gb
@@TheSpotify95 Yep, because the 5500 wasn't a pilfered laptop GPU they slapped on a PCB to sell as a desktop card. Seems that's becoming the norm for the low end these days.
@@evers6214 Absolutely, and the 3050 6GB full height cards should be closer to $150, if not less. The low profile cards make sense at that price range, but the full height cards need to be cheaper for sure as well.
I can't get a rx 5500xt for my SSF system... But I can get a rx 6500xt or a rtx 3050 6GB for almost the same price...
I appreciate the information you're giving me about.The 3.0 and 4.0 But just out of curiosity and it does make a big difference, the resizable bar, you never make a comment about that
Absolutely matters for intel cards
9:47 "come on mate please dont do that to me"
This is actually a really good way to see the effects 1 and .1% lows on smoothness of gameplay. Even though both cards were getting around 60FPS in RDR2, the 6500XT's gameplay looked stuttery and awful.
I believe the RTX 3050 6GB should be a ~$100 USD max GPU (new)considering what it offers todays gaming market. Saying that, being a 75watt GPU and not requiring a pci-E connector is a vg feat considering what is actually does offer in terms of FPS 😇💪🥰👍
the fact the entire 3050 6gb board is using less power than the 6500XT gpu chip only is quite amazing for no pcie connector gpu's
RandomGaminginHD, This is sick!
Why video on the left side of the screen is a bit hazy and right one has more contrast?
Thanks for the video!
if i recall correctly, amd and nvida record differently, irl it shouldnt look different.
in my experience, amd colors always look better, in games, recoded and on youtube, i do prefer colorts on amd gpus
Sick! I've been wanting to buy one of these just because (lmao). Thanks for this one.
But my Rx6500XT was the only card available during the shortage 😭😭😭
Yeah I think that’s the reason a lot of people got one. It’s not that bad at all in 4.0 mode
@@RandomGaminginHDit was absolutly trash paired with a 5600g.
6600xt/6650xt is the far better choise for +50 bucks
Warzone 1440p ultra/high 55-60fps without upscaling
@@philspam2087 bruh he ain't talking about rn he's talking about during the times of GPU shortage when rx 6600 was like 350$ and 6500xt was only 200$
@@philspam2087i don’t think anyone recommends buying a new 6500xt in a world where the 6600 exists for slightly more money. However this was not always the case. I bought a 6500xt on launch day for $199 when the 6600 was $400.
Well, you were lucky. I only could buy a Gtx 1650 whose performance is below of the Rx 6500 xt
Thanks for the previous video...I went on steam and snatched that deal up real quick😂😂
I got the 6500 xt when my gpu died at the end of the covid era when there were no gpus and today im still using it.With radeon virtual super resolution i can game at 1440p on my 1080p monitor and use FSR balance mode to boost fps.
i see no reason to upgrade yet until the next gen consoles launch with 16gb of vram then i will upgrade.
The 6500XT's image looks cleaner.
the only thing I hate about 6500 xt was there is no hard encoding so it's hard to live stream
Wild the jump between a 3050 6gb to a 3060 12gb but lack of jump from a 3060 12gb to a 3070 8gb
Nvidia you need to fix your marketing, slicing Bus size on RTX 4 series made a lot of 60 series buyers ignore the 4060
Throw the flippin ball! hahaha Good Job as always 🙂
3050 6GB is a really nice GPU for people who don't wanna bother with power connectors and also for 75W gaming. Better than any iGPU out there.
Weird thing I've noticed, the AMD GPU gives a better image. More contrast, brighter colors, is it due to GPU settings in their software, recording options, or they just process image differently?
Probably different image processing. This also used to happen on my Lenovo Legion 5 when I was using the AMD iGPU and not the RTX 3060 Laptop. Colors looked washed out with the 3060, and needed to be tweaked via the Control Panel.
But after a Windows clean install and a BIOS update, my RTX 3060 Laptop now outputs about the same image quality as my iGPU used to do (without any tweak in Control Panel) before I disable it with MUX switch when driver issues occured with it (I haven't enabled the iGPU ever since and did a clean Windows install when I got a 2TB NVME SSD and 2 BIOS updates).
Radeon software image sharpening.
@@rinsenpai135 That's hella interesting, my 1660 Super used to give my projector TOO much contrast. Blacks were crushed, colors oversaturated, everything bright was a tad too bright. Replaced it with an RX 6750 XT, now it's actually properly outputting the image
i had amd gpu but died so i bought an almost new 1650. I was shocked about the colour quality, then i searched on YT "Get Better Colors With Nvidia". Night and day difference. Same or better quality with nvidia, still prefer AMD's software.
It could also be because the color settings changed after you installed the new card. This has happened to me before when switching from an AMD card to an Nvidia card. I lived with the difference for many months, and it was only when I saw an interesting article suggesting that I check a certain setting to make sure that I had the best color that I found out that I wasn't imagining the apparently worse image quality. I believe what settings are best will depend on your display, but I seem to recall that the article was saying that most monitors would look better with a certain color setting but that for some reason, people were often getting a different setting as the default setting.
Now, don't ask me to remember exactly what the setting was called, or where it was. It might be worth doing some searching on this topic.
I'm somewhat satisfied with my RTX 3050, about the most powerful card I could slot into my aging OEM-machine and it has been a substantial upgrade over GTX 1650. Of course the brand new 3DMark's Steel Nomad was there to put me into my place, but at least older titles run pretty well now. I wouldn't recommend the card to anyone not limited by their PSU(and no easy upgrade option in sight), but for my case it's been good (and easy) enough.
I did have a rx 6500 xt and it is a really good low end budget card
3050 6GB is on the price level of 6600 (much better card) , and 6500XT almost disappeared .
Here the 6600 is 40 euro more expensive and if you don't mind the terrible power consumption for the performance it's way better. And if you're spending more money anyway the 7600 or 4060 is about 50 euro more than 6600 etc etc
@@erikkarsies4851
More fps = more power consumption
Where in the world theybhave the same price. Rtx 3050 6gb is only 160 here brand new, while RX 6600 is 230 dollars brand new. There is 70 dollars gap.
@@hbzero2605the 3050 8GB, RX6600 and the 4060 8GB were all around 120W. Which is why the 3050 needed a cut down 70W version to be of any use.
@@erikkarsies4851 In which country ? In Serbia cheapest 3050 6G is around 205 euro, and cheapest 6600 is 214 euro.
I considered both of these recently but ended up with a used 5700XT and it's much better.
got a 6500 xt for testing for 56$ think i know witch is better 56 vs $175 love the vids!
Just bought a rx 6500 xt for 85.00 used on eBay. You won't find the 3050 used for that price.
I have a 3050 KalmX which I got used because it's the most powerful passively cooled card you can get. I'd instantly switch to anything faster that I can get passively cooled out of the box. Maybe when the AMD 8500 XT or the nVidia RTX 5050 when they release (or whatever they'll end up being called).
Probably RTX 4050 will come first before 5050
You have to put the 6500 XT in context ... when it came out, it was around 300$ CAD and the RTX 3050 was over 400$ CAD during the GPUpocalypse. In terms of Frames per dollar, the 6500 XT at the time was way more economical. In terms of performance, 6500 XT is about the same as an RX 580 in PCIe 4.0. RX 570 in PCIe 3.0. Totally playable, just not great. I do find that the Frame Generation does help the card quite a bit.
There are no bad GPUs, just bad prices. If the 6500 XT was still being made ( I think production stopped, someone can correct me ) ... it should be less than 150$ CAD. RTX 3050 is still a bit pricey for what it gives you as a generational replacement for the GTX 1650.
He is talking about yhe rtx 3050 6gb not the 8gb original variant. 3050 6gb is cheaper than 6500xt
RX580 was great back in 2019 and it cost less than what 6500XT is today and had hardware encoding, plus it has double VRAM which not being important in 2019, it is very much important today when many games require at least 6GB/8GB of VRAM. And Frame Generation is useless if you don't have additional VRAM, plus it is awful tech, you need at least 50fps to feel any good as input lag is major killer, and with 50+ you can already play the game. Better just use upscaler or not play game at all.
Considering 6500XT is basically a much gimped RX580 with lower TDP and recent drivers, and was always more expensive, it is certainly a bad card. Same could be said about RTX3050 6GB, but that one is actually better for about same price, has usable VRAM, hardware encoding, more efficient, 8xPCI lanes for old systems, so it is worth a look...once it hits 160€ or lower.
With these low end cards it would have been nice to see 720p same settings and Maxed out for true budget gamers that want FPS at the low end. Thanks. Did you mention that the 6500XT is truly designed for mobile laptops and such low power applications thus the 4 pci-e lanes and not like the 3050 with 8 lanes.
You can use upscaling on both which is can achive 720p upscaling to 1080p
@@HapPawhere yes, but from what I gather its not pretty and native res. seems to be the winner is most cases, but we need to see more testing videos on the details.
I’d love to see you test the 8GB 6500Xt
I just bought a Saphire Pulse 8Gb OC RX6500XT
You make a great dase for a used 6600/xt as an alternative.
Unless you need a 75W card if you want RT/DX12U functionality then I'd say a used 2060 and a tube of thermal paste is the best value around this price point. More performance and a full x16 connector.
FWIW, Intel A580 cards should be sitting right around the same price, around 160 USD. How do its results slot comparatively, for the "new electronics smell" crowd?
Don't also forget the RX 5500.
Remember, you did a test previously with RX 5500 compared with RX 6500XT and in some cases, the 5500 won outright (compared to the 6500XT) and the 5500 always won in PCIe 3.0 mode. So for a PCIe 3.0 system also look for the RX 5500.
🙂 sure the 5500 is close to an RX 580
@@MrSamadolfo no 580 better than 5500 is on par with 5500xt
that gpu is only found used, 6500 is new, for some regions that does matter because used gpus on some markets are horrible
The 3050, especially in its low profile form, is meant to be a step-up from the GTX 1650. It fits in an old SFF office PC and doesn't need external power. An old office PC with a 10th gen i5 and RAM bump with a 3050 is a cheap and usable 1080p gaming rig (be aware that there's effectively no upgrade path with these systems though).
The problem is that it's only 6GB RAM and 96bit memory bus, not enough of a step up from the 5 year old 1650 with 4GB and...128bit bus (but if it had 8GB that would eat into the 4060, and there's a low profile variant of that which unfortunately needs external power). It's also not a whole lot faster than a top spec iGPU.
This is what I wanted to see
Who gets these cards? People who don't buy used under no circumstance I imagine, because I think you can get a 2070 for 150 pounds as well in the uk at the moment, and there is no comparison with that card. 2060 super, 2070 at that pricepoint. 5700xt as well if I recall. All better than the 3050 by a huge margin.
Ive been thinking of buying the rtx3050 6gb for my itx build, the performance is ok and it can actually let you play every game on normal preset, and no extra power connector needed for this card, that is a sweet spot.
I did that and I have to warn you, it's amazing less cable management
G'day Random & Rupert,
The Ray Tracing Chapter is why I still think there is room for GTX GPUs,
3050 should have been a 1750 & could have been cheaper because you are not paying for Diespace you are not using, plus while the prefix wouldn't change same for 6300/6400/6500.
The 6600 is really the best alternative here. The 3050 6GB shines though in a low power build, a low profile build, or something that will take advantage of Nvenc or CUDA like a budget stream or editing PC.
Did you use different settings when recording the RTX 3050 gameplay?
I feel like all the clips are less saturated and more blurry compared to the 6500 XT gameplay
i think you should also consider the AFMF 2 tech on rx 6500xt too .... even on being driver level based frame gen AFMF 2 in many is very good and fps and latency is overall much better and feels like real fps .... it will be nice addition to benchmarks when using AMD gpus and it will be nice too know performance on different AMD gpu using AFMF 2.
You mean which of those gimped cards is less bad right?
I think you can but the RX 6600 for a little over £150 now, and the uplift from these two is noticeable
I got an Arc A770 16GB Bifrost for $150 😊
Seems like, in Radeon range, RX 6600 is only logical option... Shouldn't RTX 3050 be rival of RX 6400 as budget card? Did AMD took the crown from GT x10 cards as top range display adapter?
I had a 6500 xt but I recently upgraded to a 6750 xt
Excellent upgrade!
good choice. the 6500xt belongs in the trash
I also have a 6750 XT, hasn't let me down so far.
its really good im pretty happy with it
@@RandomGaminginHDThanks!
i was wondering how these compare and couldn't find any comparisons
RTX 3050 8Gb starts at 30 euro more expensive than RTX 3050 6Gb and 4Gb RX 6500 XT in our country now. I think a better choice? (If you do have a GPU power connector of course)
Yes, it is better choice...though you might also find RX6600 for same price which is even better.
@@mclarenf1gtr99 Uses more power for less features, but off course that's an option too. So better is arguably disputable.
@@erikkarsies4851 RX6600 doesn't consume much more and has much better performance, it is shit at RTX but so is RTX3050. What actually makes 3050 better is in productivity.
Was Sam enabled for the 6500xt?
Old workstation (6 core minimum preferably) plus RTX 3050 would seem like the easiest and least fussiest way for a gaming PC. Replacing the GTX1650 probably.
On a different note, I was thinking about building a budget/mid range PC and choosing between RTX3060 and RX6650xt/RX6700xt (whichever is cheaper and available at the time). I know the AMD will be better value but the Nvidia's DLSS might be a deciding factor...
only 1-2 games have dlss and commonly killing stabing poisonous games to your brain..
Just in the process of upgrading my system from 8th gen to 12th gen Intel, but going with an RTX 3060 (About $450AUD at the moment) from a GTX 1660 Ti.
3:11 whats with the 6500 xt frametime?
Vulkan issue I also have with my 6900xt in red dead redemption. Game plays much better in dx12 mode in this specific game, but the issue is that to reduce the stutter, you need to enable async compute in the game config file. not ideal at all. I rather play in vulkan... However the game runs about the same in both in terms of performance
I bought a RTX 3050 8GB in 2022 for $350 i know the price is abit rough for the 3050 but the country i live in has very strict taxes you pay on Electronics in my Country very happy with my 3050 and have peace of mind knowing i have the more powerful card with more VRAM def helps alot if you wanna play games at Ultra settings
Im honestly Quite suprised by what thw RTX 3050 6GB can achieve its definitely a card if you're tight on a Budget or just wanna slap it in a Office Pc. The 6GB VRAM could become a issue in the future coz i use over 6GB of VRAM in Cyberpunk witb the settings cranked everything to high and SSR to Ultra with DLSS Quality and achive 60+ mostly
Just scored a 3060ti for 185 and a 3070 msi x trio for 220. Used is the way to go for sure
I'd like to see a comparison between the GTX 1660 Super and 3050 6GB
I honestly wouldn't have thought that *anything* could be slower than a 3050. Man was I wrong!
There is RX6400 if you want to have a look, should be around 1650 performance and price, but same shitty 4 lane PCI and no HW encoding. Also GTX1630, with 1050ti performance. Wouldn't go bellow that today.
Well the 3050 6gb is not slow but worse price to performance. It actually has the performance same as the gtx1660, but no extra power connector required.
can you please test 5600xt? its also a pretty good budget option in used market
Is it me or do the colors in RDR2 look more vibrant on Radeon?
eyy I'm rocking this gpu in my R5 5600g build
The 3050 6gb has it's merrits, an entry level card with a nice and low powerdraw that can deliver a playable experience in a lot of games!
Only problem is that price, which is a big problem... at least in Denmark it's the same price as an Intel Arc A580 which even beats the 3050 8gb in most games. But of course there are still some games and areas where the Intel Arc cards are a little broken so...
But the 3050 6gb is also very close in price to the RX 6600 which destroys it in every way imaginable... Also considering that the RX6600 only draws about 25 watts more power...
I had a quick look on Amazon for the prices.
3050 6GB goes for 185€ minimum.
6500XT goes for 160€ minimum.
Seems to reflect the performance difference pretty closely, so bang for buck they are about the same.
what CPU did you pair these cards with?
Would be interesting to see how much of a gain the 8GB variant of the 6500 XT has over the 4GB.
Yeah I’m looking for one now so hopefully will test soon 😁
I remember when you couldnt even get a use 750ti for $150... both cards are great... I have always been an NVIDIA guy until I got the asus ROG G15 advantage edition with the Ryzen 9 and rx 6800xt... it gives me less problems than my computer with a 4080 as far as compatability right out of the box.
The 3050 is undoubtedly the better card. The only problem around it is the price point it's been at for the longest time. If it can drop closer to the RX 6500 XT prices.....it would be better received. I have a laptop with the 3050 and it runs pretty well. Slightly better than the 1660S desktop. but nothing close to the RX 6600 and its XT and 6650XT variants.
Long story short... 3050 is a great card ONLY IF it were priced a bunch lower from launch.
RT isn't really a fair comparison since the 3050 does have 2 more GBs than the 6500xt, and RT is VRAM intensive, with that being said it would be interesting to see how a 6500xt 8GB variant does against the 3050
6GB 3050 owner here, for what I play it has been a solid fit. Unfortunately got a 6600 XT before it but that broke so I returned it 💀
man, in my country the rtx 3050 6gb is about 172$, i think its a great deal tbh, thinking about buying one for myself
Why it broke ehat brand?
A very interesting benchmark video. RX 6500 XT turned out disappointing, the card is in a no-man's land. It's too slow for a gaming card, RTX 3050 is outright better, worth the premium between these 2 cards.
I’m here waiting for the next gen announcement so I see a glitter of GPU lowering their prices 😂
There is also the RX 6500XT from PowerColor, the fighter version.
3050 6GB is good if you are limited by space, power and connectors. There isn’t much competition for people with that use case. However if you have the space and power you can probably find something much faster. At least here the Intel 750 and Radeon 6600 was just on sale for about 10% more and you get much more than 10% better performance.
Lower power usage, more VRAM, more versatile performance, crushes video editing, excellent media encoders, RTX broadcast, RTX HDR, RTX Video HDR, RTX VSR, DLSS infinitely better at 1080p.
Finally, a video for the people in the 3rd World countries who need to build a full setup with just $500.
Nice dog 👍
But what about the 8gb version?
why do the colors look so much better on the 6500 xt?
Over here 6500 is half the price of 3050, so...
Unlucky people over there. Over it's almost the same price. At least if you ignore build quality. The better card is the more the 6500 xt even tends to be more expensive here.
3050 6gb doesn't need a 8pin power connector, the rx 6500 xt needs one. 3050 6gb has use cases, to put in old office pc's with proprietary power supply
i think the 3050 vs a rx5600 would be a good comparison
"yeah, i play all games at maximum settings 1440p. it ROCKS!!"
said every 3050 user
lol ye with dlss on ultra performance 30fps.
my buddy with a gtx 1650 laptop says he plays cyberpunk at 1080p max settings and gets 60fps
1080 p all the way
diagusting games..
...24fps...extremely playable...
3050 even the 6gb version is a much better card than the RX 6500xt
But with the same price or even lower you can get second hand RX 6600 that have performance equal to RTX 2060
Which is definitely above 3050 even the 8gb version
RX6600s have the same performance outside of RT as a 2060S mate, better purchase than the 8GB 3050 let alone the 6GB, unless you need a 75W card that is.
the 3050 when lowers price will be great, but tbh 6500 did great here, the ram limitation is a real error amd made here
Do Space Marine 2 benchmarks
Sapphire also has couple 8GB models of the 6500XT. ITX PURE 8GB and PULSE 8GB
Those frame time graphs in the first RDR2 benchmark - yikes! That's quite a difference!!
Next you should compare the Ryzen 4070 to the GTX 4090XT
Isn't the 6600 more price equivalent?