Love how you mix the tutorial and an art project at different levels for this one. Perfect delivery. Very much enjoyed it. And I haven't even skateboarded in about 25 years
I will fear no art~!~ As a maker, an ex-skater(sk8brds)and now a onewheeler, so much goodness just happened for me in this video. I've been wanting to do vacuum bagging for awhile now. I already do a bunch of cold forming bent laminates for work, now I want to play with decks. Thank you~!~
I love how this idea evolved from a story about making skate decks to one about different ways to use a new tool. The deck turned out gorgeous, but I really learned a lot about using the vacuum press. I think I need a new tool now. Thanks for sharing!
New tag line!?! Who's going to tell me to "...stay pationate and make something?" Seriously though, Keep evolving! We found you, Bob, Jimmy, and the others for a skill or technique and stay because of your personalities and creative sides.
Good video Joewoodworker has a lot of info on vacuum pressing and pump setups. Bag tip - If you have a shop around that makes boat covers they use clear vinyl for the the windows, You can get cut offs cheap or free most of the time. I have bought sections from shops to make different sized bags for a fraction of the costs you could purchase the vinyl elsewhere. I use HH-66 vinyl cement to glue the edges it works great and makes a permanent air tight bond.
I just changed out the plastic bag on my dust collector yesterday and watching this it just dawned on me, those plastic bags would probably work great for this DIY vacuum sealing. Wouldn’t have to mess with that sealing tape, and they’re fairly inexpensive
Dear Make, another great and informative video. I really enjoy the channel and am a new listener to the podcast. 👍 You've helped reinspire my maker mentality. 🙏
Thank you for the 3 options on vacuum pumps and bags. Veneering scares the heck out of me, this was a great demonstration on starting in a reasonable fashion 😊
Absolutely amazing video as a new woodworker veneering scares me, but after watching your videos, it makes it seem like it’s something that’s very doable even for a beginner. Thanks for sharing and always giving us such great ideas.
I like the idea and will surely use it someday. Instead of going to Harbor Freight to spend 100 $ on a pump I would take an old fridge and take the compressor from it. One side gives off pressure alright, but the other side will suck. You'll be amazed at what it will do, and at 0 $ ... Secondly I would add a little ball valve to shut things off once you've reached sufficient vacuum.
How about the vacuum bags from the dollar store? The ones for clothes. Also how would a shop vac do in place of the wine saver? Not enough suction perhaps?
Wow! I now need a vacuum bag system for my shop. Great video. Seeing such beautiful woodwork getting scratch up hurts. Have you thought of a epoxy finish for the bottom side of the skateboards? It's easy to repair. Thank for the fresh ideas.
I bought my vacuum pump from Amazon, last year. It's similar to your 2nd version, but I made sure to get the oilless version. The one you have will spit an oil mist into the air as it's running. The reason I bought a pump to begin with was to use as a small vacuum generator on my Axiom cnc. So far, I've made 2 small platens, just as proof of concepts, and they work great. They're about 8"×12" each. They hold a piece of melamine like a monkey holding a banana--not letting go! My next version will be like the Air Weights version, 24" square.
I have a kitchen appliance made for vacuum sealing bags. It includes a tube for use with bags that don't fit in the sealing iron, as well as reusable valve bags and jars. That should be intermediate in power between the hand pump and the Harbor Freight pump.
have you ever heard of space bags? uses a shop vac. made for vacuum sealing clothing. but its a vacuum port one way valve. + a bag. if you need it bigger cut the ends and tape on more plastic.
I love Foam Factory. I’ve used them to get super high-quality foam for my cushions. They also have something called “pick and pull” foam, something like that, I used to organize my workbench drawers…not quite as nice as some of the other drawer organizing foam but the end result is similar and much cheaper.
Awesome. I just made a piece and vacuum clamped using butyl tape, plastic sheet from home depot and a vacuum pump (I have a vacuum pump salvaged from a closed factory). I did it a little differently, by bagging to a table top and using pleats in the tape so the bag didn't bridge. The bags not reusable, but it's cheap as dirt so who cares. Wrapped a tube with butyl and ran it through the perimeter tape. I filmed the whole thing so I will probably post it somewhere soon.
Very interesting stuff! Thank you for including the low budget methods also! That definitely makes the video more worth watching for the nonprofit woodworkers who just want to enjoy the art of wood working without the second mortgage 💸. Hahaha! Well done in all honest though!.
Thank you for this video. Another maker I watch uses vacuum clamping and I've always just assumed it was a technique I would need to invest a bunch of money into, so I've just stayed away. Thanks for showing options with a cheaper threshold to entry.
Another possibility, with a little modification, is a bicycle tire pump. It will get you a lot more pressure and volume (and therefore less work) than the wine pump.
Instead of sealing tape, try the cheapest bathroom caulk you can find, works a treat! Will also work for your seals. Back in the day when I was doing a lot of this, I would just use 1/4" poly tubing stuck into the bag with a small piece of paper towel wrapped around it as a filter to keep from sucking resin, again, sealed with caulk going into the bag.
Ok, so...we have a FoodSaver machine with the hose attachment and the bags have one of those one way valves. They also have lids with the same one way valve that you can probably deconstruct as well. I'd be curious to see if that works with the same clear vinyl/sealing tape thing you did. We got our Deluxe model FoodSaver at Goodwill for like $20. It's great for saving our food, and probably this as well!
You know looking at the $100 pump, you in theory could put it on a digital timer that allows you to set it to run a half minute every 4 minutes, then you could walk away for 3 hours and have it run automatically constantly repressurizing the piece.
You can also scavenge a refrigerant compressor from an old water cooler or other appliance. These will pull a vacuum, and they are free if you go dumpster-diving or heavy-trash-pickup-surfing.
Thanks for the wine pump idea. I've been looking for a way to get into bent lamination art and this may be the way. Have you tried one of those air mattress pumps? You can reverse them to suckt he air out of the mattress.
A lot of people don't realize that the pink foam board comes in a lot of different hardnesses as well. A local home center likely stocks at least the 15psi and 25psi flavors, 25psi being much harder to dent. But they come in ratings all the way up to 100psi!
The HF punp risks burnout leaving it on for any length of time. Those are not designed for permanent use, really. Probably be great if you could put it onto an intermittent on-off timer so it operated every five minutes or something like that. Isn't as reactive as the $1000 pump, but it's probably adequate to keep the thing tight while allowing the pump to cool down regularly.
If your skateboards will be ridden the way he rides, they should have rails to keep the art from being damaged. Might be good to have truck guards as well. I like these designs. They remind me of the fabric art you would see at fabric stores in the 70's.
The cheapest powered vacuum pump is a kitchen “sous vide” pump for vacuum sealing food for freezing or putting in a controlled temperature bath. I got one for (translated) $30
Homie, this IS the best channel and I love your style, but your brother is right that background wood is the shits 😅 But seriously, 10/10 videos, thank you for existing.
Hi Dave. A great video yet again thank you! You mention the webbing is to show the pump is sucking air from all sides. How does the webbing show you that?
Love your videos, even more that you are a fellow Ohio boy. However, you should go back to the black or dark colored backdrop. The oak gold cabinet doors behind you are washing you out. I feel like the dark background gave you a good contrast where I only focused on the project. The oak is distracting. Just my humble opinion.
Check out the Baumgartner Restorations UA-cam channel. Besides his art oriented subject matter, he has a very maker mindset with his methods of art restoration. He uses a heated vacuum table for paintings. Though you probably wouldn't have a use for the heating feature of his table, I think you'll find the vacuum features of how his table works pretty interesting. It eliminates making bags, messy sealing tape, and janky air nozzles. He has a video of the build for the table too. Great job making some beautiful functional art😊.
Nice work, the boards look great!! (And thanks for the shout out!)
Love how you mix the tutorial and an art project at different levels for this one. Perfect delivery. Very much enjoyed it. And I haven't even skateboarded in about 25 years
I will fear no art~!~ As a maker, an ex-skater(sk8brds)and now a onewheeler, so much goodness just happened for me in this video. I've been wanting to do vacuum bagging for awhile now. I already do a bunch of cold forming bent laminates for work, now I want to play with decks. Thank you~!~
I love how this idea evolved from a story about making skate decks to one about different ways to use a new tool. The deck turned out gorgeous, but I really learned a lot about using the vacuum press. I think I need a new tool now. Thanks for sharing!
New tag line!?! Who's going to tell me to "...stay pationate and make something?" Seriously though, Keep evolving! We found you, Bob, Jimmy, and the others for a skill or technique and stay because of your personalities and creative sides.
Good video
Joewoodworker has a lot of info on vacuum pressing and pump setups.
Bag tip - If you have a shop around that makes boat covers they use clear vinyl for the the windows, You can get cut offs cheap or free most of the time. I have bought sections from shops to make different sized bags for a fraction of the costs you could purchase the vinyl elsewhere.
I use HH-66 vinyl cement to glue the edges it works great and makes a permanent air tight bond.
Bro, that is so weird, I have a friend Joann that had a craft store too 😂! Cool vid, thanks for the great info and fun delivery.
Always a good day when a Picciuto video drops!
Sorry to hear that your friend, Joann's store is not doing so well.
I just changed out the plastic bag on my dust collector yesterday and watching this it just dawned on me, those plastic bags would probably work great for this DIY vacuum sealing. Wouldn’t have to mess with that sealing tape, and they’re fairly inexpensive
Dear Make, another great and informative video. I really enjoy the channel and am a new listener to the podcast. 👍 You've helped reinspire my maker mentality. 🙏
Sure that's a wine pump.😂
"I don't even know what this is! This sort of thing ain't my bag, baby."
Scrolling past and I stopped to come here for this.
I'm glad you're on top of it 👍
Carry on the good work.
Thank you for the 3 options on vacuum pumps and bags. Veneering scares the heck out of me, this was a great demonstration on starting in a reasonable fashion 😊
Absolutely amazing video as a new woodworker veneering scares me, but after watching your videos, it makes it seem like it’s something that’s very doable even for a beginner. Thanks for sharing and always giving us such great ideas.
I like the idea and will surely use it someday.
Instead of going to Harbor Freight to spend 100 $ on a pump I would take an old fridge and take the compressor from it. One side gives off pressure alright, but the other side will suck. You'll be amazed at what it will do, and at 0 $ ...
Secondly I would add a little ball valve to shut things off once you've reached sufficient vacuum.
Exactly what I was thinking of commenting. Discarded window a/c's are another good source. Cheers
I don't even have a use for this but still really enjoyed the video. You are concise, to the point and entertaining all in one.
You put a ton of work into this video man, good luck on the sale!
I love the look of those boards! nicely done, MS!
Check out vacuum bags for clothes, might work too, with a little less faffing about.
I was thinking about this too. They use a vacuum cleaner to suck the air out and come in all sizes.
You can also get mattress ones, way bigger.
I have used the clothes vacuum bags with the included hand pump for a fiberglass layup and it worked great!
As long as you can get multiple uses that would certainly work. But in my experience those are significantly more expensive
You wouldn't have to worry about leaks. They hold the clothes for months without the need to repump them.
Man, this is the rundown on vacuum presses I needed. I might be employing this in guitar building.
Oh definitely! This video pretty much completed the puzzle in my head on how to get a cheap double top jig going!
How about the vacuum bags from the dollar store? The ones for clothes.
Also how would a shop vac do in place of the wine saver? Not enough suction perhaps?
Great info and all those boards came out great! Your sense of style and design is always inspiring.
What a brilliant idea, every days a school day Thankyou.
Wow! I now need a vacuum bag system for my shop. Great video. Seeing such beautiful woodwork getting scratch up hurts. Have you thought of a epoxy finish for the bottom side of the skateboards? It's easy to repair. Thank for the fresh ideas.
I bought my vacuum pump from Amazon, last year. It's similar to your 2nd version, but I made sure to get the oilless version. The one you have will spit an oil mist into the air as it's running.
The reason I bought a pump to begin with was to use as a small vacuum generator on my Axiom cnc. So far, I've made 2 small platens, just as proof of concepts, and they work great. They're about 8"×12" each. They hold a piece of melamine like a monkey holding a banana--not letting go!
My next version will be like the Air Weights version, 24" square.
I have a kitchen appliance made for vacuum sealing bags. It includes a tube for use with bags that don't fit in the sealing iron, as well as reusable valve bags and jars. That should be intermediate in power between the hand pump and the Harbor Freight pump.
have you ever heard of space bags? uses a shop vac. made for vacuum sealing clothing. but its a vacuum port one way valve. + a bag. if you need it bigger cut the ends and tape on more plastic.
I live right down the street from foam factory. we get all our mattress toppers made there.sweet
I love Foam Factory. I’ve used them to get super high-quality foam for my cushions. They also have something called “pick and pull” foam, something like that, I used to organize my workbench drawers…not quite as nice as some of the other drawer organizing foam but the end result is similar and much cheaper.
Awesome. I just made a piece and vacuum clamped using butyl tape, plastic sheet from home depot and a vacuum pump (I have a vacuum pump salvaged from a closed factory). I did it a little differently, by bagging to a table top and using pleats in the tape so the bag didn't bridge. The bags not reusable, but it's cheap as dirt so who cares. Wrapped a tube with butyl and ran it through the perimeter tape. I filmed the whole thing so I will probably post it somewhere soon.
Very interesting stuff! Thank you for including the low budget methods also! That definitely makes the video more worth watching for the nonprofit woodworkers who just want to enjoy the art of wood working without the second mortgage 💸. Hahaha! Well done in all honest though!.
I was amazed to see that vacuum bags can compress a whole mattress. Even with a cheap pump.
Thank you for this video. Another maker I watch uses vacuum clamping and I've always just assumed it was a technique I would need to invest a bunch of money into, so I've just stayed away. Thanks for showing options with a cheaper threshold to entry.
I love your channel so much! You always inspire me to try things that are outside of my skill set and I love learning new skills. Thank you!
Loved it. Thank you so much for sharing. Now I know how to make that table she wants.
Great vid!! Love the type of videos you make, they really stand out and inspire. Thanks for sharing!
Joanne has a future.
Wow!! Look at all the techie hardware... I'd be like a kid in a sweetshop if I had all that stuff. 🙂🙃🙂😜🤪
I recognize that walnut. Great info, always wanted to try veneering.
Is there a separate video of the skate session with that beautiful board? I would totally watch that!
Great video David and those skateboards are amazing! 👍👍
Another possibility, with a little modification, is a bicycle tire pump. It will get you a lot more pressure and volume (and therefore less work) than the wine pump.
Those skate boards look awesome!!!
Heavy and beautiful - thanks, man!
Instead of sealing tape, try the cheapest bathroom caulk you can find, works a treat! Will also work for your seals. Back in the day when I was doing a lot of this, I would just use 1/4" poly tubing stuck into the bag with a small piece of paper towel wrapped around it as a filter to keep from sucking resin, again, sealed with caulk going into the bag.
What about a food saver system? Had bags and vacuum and the bags seal great.
Good work, Mr. Picciuto.
Ok, so...we have a FoodSaver machine with the hose attachment and the bags have one of those one way valves. They also have lids with the same one way valve that you can probably deconstruct as well. I'd be curious to see if that works with the same clear vinyl/sealing tape thing you did. We got our Deluxe model FoodSaver at Goodwill for like $20. It's great for saving our food, and probably this as well!
those boards are beautiful!
You can also use a fridge compressor as a vacuum for cheaper than the harbor freight one.
This video is awesome! Fantastic tips.
When you went to Harbor Freight you for the vacuum pump you should have picked up some vacuum bags.
You know looking at the $100 pump, you in theory could put it on a digital timer that allows you to set it to run a half minute every 4 minutes, then you could walk away for 3 hours and have it run automatically constantly repressurizing the piece.
You can also scavenge a refrigerant compressor from an old water cooler or other appliance. These will pull a vacuum, and they are free if you go dumpster-diving or heavy-trash-pickup-surfing.
Thanks for the wine pump idea. I've been looking for a way to get into bent lamination art and this may be the way. Have you tried one of those air mattress pumps? You can reverse them to suckt he air out of the mattress.
Great video
My wife loves waking into your aunt’s store.
Absolutly incredible! love it!
Level II, could have used a “seal-a-meal” as the pump. The one I use was a five dollar purchase at the animal shelter thrift store.
"My friend Joann" LOL
Great watch Dave, sk8 or die!
A lot of people don't realize that the pink foam board comes in a lot of different hardnesses as well. A local home center likely stocks at least the 15psi and 25psi flavors, 25psi being much harder to dent. But they come in ratings all the way up to 100psi!
The HF punp risks burnout leaving it on for any length of time. Those are not designed for permanent use, really. Probably be great if you could put it onto an intermittent on-off timer so it operated every five minutes or something like that. Isn't as reactive as the $1000 pump, but it's probably adequate to keep the thing tight while allowing the pump to cool down regularly.
Could you use a vacuum storage bag, the type for storing clothes and bedding that you use with a vacuum cleaner hose, for something like this?
I haven’t tried but other in the comments have suggested them.
first thought: Nah, I‘m good.
Spotting the skate decks. Take my money!!
When did the wood cladding come back? I'm glad it's back! 😆
you might try a shop vac,, but beware that some shop vac motors are cooled by the air passing through the tubes instead of having a separate fan
If your skateboards will be ridden the way he rides, they should have rails to keep the art from being damaged. Might be good to have truck guards as well.
I like these designs. They remind me of the fabric art you would see at fabric stores in the 70's.
Wouldn't rubber washers work instead of the sealing tape?
Thanks. Where is the source for the vacuum bags?
Could you just use a shop vac as the vacuum pump?
Do you think vacuum would work for steam bending?
Would a household vacuum cleaner work? I was planning to use it in combination with a cheap laundry vacuum bag.
Cool artistic skateboards. Did you visit MoMA recently and see the various skateboard triptychs? Nice work.
Could you use the vac bag for cloth storage. Of course size permitting. and use your vacuum cleaner to suck the air out.
THANKS FOR THE VIDEO
The cheapest powered vacuum pump is a kitchen “sous vide” pump for vacuum sealing food for freezing or putting in a controlled temperature bath. I got one for (translated) $30
my friend Jo-Ann... classic
Buy space bags?
Homie, this IS the best channel and I love your style, but your brother is right that background wood is the shits 😅
But seriously, 10/10 videos, thank you for existing.
You can get an HVAC vacuum pump from amz for about $60. Should be more than powerful enough.
2:51 Forgive my ignorance, but would using _tabletop tape_ make the process more efficient than the _ceiling tape_ you're using?
asking for a friend.
"Ceiling tape." "Sealing tape?" "I think we're on the same page here." 😜 All joking aside, the DIY vac bag is an incredible idea!
Would an Aquarium pump work (for a level 1.5)?
Thanks for the informative video! You mentioned vacuum bags that last a lifetime - which brand were those?
Vacupress. There's a link in the description.
Not being funny. Could you use the big vaccuum bags meant to usw with your vaccuem cleaner?
Nice work! Your presentation style is evolving from goofing to short, sweet and to the point. Obv more confident.
0:28 Baccuum Vags
Hi Dave. A great video yet again thank you! You mention the webbing is to show the pump is sucking air from all sides. How does the webbing show you that?
it's to allow air flow around the top of what you put in the bag. You can use a couple of layers of paper towel to achieve similar results.
Nice
Love your videos, even more that you are a fellow Ohio boy. However, you should go back to the black or dark colored backdrop. The oak gold cabinet doors behind you are washing you out. I feel like the dark background gave you a good contrast where I only focused on the project. The oak is distracting. Just my humble opinion.
you and @tested need to collaborate
If anyone is wondering about the sealing tape, it's butyl, try not to get it on your fingers or wood it's hard to take off; use gloves.
Check out the Baumgartner Restorations UA-cam channel. Besides his art oriented subject matter, he has a very maker mindset with his methods of art restoration. He uses a heated vacuum table for paintings. Though you probably wouldn't have a use for the heating feature of his table, I think you'll find the vacuum features of how his table works pretty interesting. It eliminates making bags, messy sealing tape, and janky air nozzles. He has a video of the build for the table too. Great job making some beautiful functional art😊.
nice...but WHAT ! I miss all the Total Boat Epoxy videos every maker was doing ;-) hehe
abso fantastic
Were you watching Thrasher on the TV?
Why not just use a shop vac?
How much are you boards?
1:38 i don't think those guides are doing much. haha