A Company Stole My Design... and Started Selling It
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- Опубліковано 21 тра 2024
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About this video:
A few years ago I made a video about building a record player console. Then a company saw the piece, copied it, and started selling it. Today I am taking back that design, completely reimagining it to make it way better, and telling the story of how it all went down.
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REFERENCED VIDEOS
▸ Original Record Player Console - • How to Make a TV Stand...
▸ Reimagined Piece 1 - Live Edge Console - • Why UA-cam Furniture ...
▸ Reimagined Piece 2 - Spider Table - • Woodworking Liar
WOODWORKING PLANS / PROJECT COURSES
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MATERIALS & TOOLS
▸ Hardwood from Woodworkers Source - bit.ly/lumber-iiii
▸ SCM Combo Jointer / Planer - bit.ly/SCM_JT_COMBO
▸ Kreg Adaptive Cutting System - bit.ly/FoureyesKPP
▸ Kreg Workbench - www.kregtool.com/3d-workbench...
▸ Kreg Pocket Hole - bit.ly/Pocket-Hole-Pro
▸ Epoxy from "Total Boat" - www.totalboat.com/product/thi...
▸ CNC (my build from Avid) - bit.ly/foureyes-CNC
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0:00 Intro
2:02 Story of the Stolen Design
5:56 Pro-Tip on Cabinet Construction
6:27 Highlight or Hide This?
7:42 The Design
11:14 Theft or Coincidence?
15:00 Awesome Detail
19:38 Why You Should Copy
22:20 A Great Tip from a Viewer
26:58 An Even Better Detail
29:05 Over / Under 275lbs?
31:52 Conclusion - Навчання та стиль
Thank you for watching everybody. Hope you enjoyed. I decided to blur the images of the other piece. People were reverse image searching and finding and messaging the company. I stand by everything that I said and I believe I gave the most honest and factual account of what happened as I could. But like I said in the video, I don't wish them any negativity. I purposefully did NOT say their names, so my hope is that this will help to keep their anonymity. One other update... they've decided to stop selling the piece. That was their choice.
Brass Chunky Mechanical - qwerktools.com/
woodworking plans - foureyes.podia.com/
I got one from the first run, really love this splendid pencil but I will give a bit of a warning to all if you accidently drop it on the tip you will no longer be able to use the pencil so make sure you are careful with it. It is to nice to just turn into a paper weight like I did. Will probably end up buying a new one but we will see.
Consider marketing your pencil also as a setup block - 1/2" square. Or sell as a set, with a second pencil as a 3/8" setup block
Circle was better tho :( even before the fact it's the same size as an LP. Circles are always better... they are *Splendid!
@noobtesting When we manufactured this time around (much larger than the first run. We ordered more tips than pencils. Email pencil@foureyesfurniture.com we can get you taken care of.
Splendid video. BTW, in the transcript, they misspelled pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcaniosis. Longest word in the dictionary! I probable misspelled it too…
I love your design style. It’s very similar to my own with clean lines and form follows function philosophy. I won’t be copying any of your designs, but I will most definitely be using a few of your design elements into my own work. Your use of chamfered edges, especially around drawers totally draws the eye to normally boring features of a drawer/door. Nobody else does that! It’s a unique design element that is a signature move. My other woodworking friends all say “why bother”. My customers all love that I took the time to bother. Precisely why I bothered. Love your splendid work, Chris.
Not a lot of youtubers are able to capture the pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis of the woodworking process. That's why your videos stand above the rest. Splendid.
Thank you for mentioning the pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis process, so I could just copy and paste in my comment... but in the spirit of this video, I shall attribute the credit to you for taking the time to actually spell it out, splendid!
Oh man, and I just typed that off the screen
Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis is such a splendid word and this is a splendidly beautiful build!
Only doctors are supposed to know that word!
Who has leaked it?
We don't use the splendid "P" word among strangers...
Not gonna lie:
I clicked for the drama.
I stayed because of the woodwork and calm voice.
I’m coming back because of all the wisdom sprinkled throughout the video.
I’m subscribing because I lost a bet.
You’re splendid!
same 😅
splendid
Same here man, love this dudes way of thinking
Bros going to be the wisest grandpa ever
Same. I can listen to Chris for hours. Some other You Tubers wind me up with their hyper cheerful constant drivel. I shan’t mention names, but I turn off the sound on them and tend to skip a lot of their content!
Yep.
I love "flaws" in real wood. It's a reminder that this material was once a living thing. It makes it unique and beautiful, in my opinion. I'm glad you decided to leave the bark inclusion intact.
Love plant corpse as furniture 😀
Congrats on being tossed into the algorithm, it finally came my way. Splendid!
I used to build custom cabinetry which often included "stuff" cabinets like this and I notice a lot of woodworkers on YT just love doing everything in solid wood regardless of how big, heavy, slow, EXPENSIVE, and sensitive it is. We built nearly everything out of veneer plywood and "surrounded" them with solid end panels to cover the exposed plywood edges and give it the appearance of being crafted from entirely solid wood. It made builds far cheaper, lighter, and with lots of clever little tricks it would look indistinguishable from a completely solid piece. And for dividing interior panels like that, rather than going through the effort of dadoing the interior of the box and cutting a tongue in the divider, we would use these thick sturdy lightweight wires that could be tapped into holes that were drilled into the interior, and would instead run a dado on the top and bottom of the divider that was slightly thinner than the thickness of the wire. The divider would slide in from the front and I tell you it, those dividers did not wobble in the slightest, and there was no time wasted with precise tongue/groove routing; just a square line, some quick holes along it, wires tapped in, fast dado on the top and bottom edges, and slide in. Bam!
But, with plywood as a skeleton, we didn't need all the wood joinery tricks, and I know at the end of the day that seems to be the draw of YT carpenters; employing those tried and true old-school tactics with modern tools to craft something tangible and unique. Learn something new, make something that's hard to find at a store or from a larger company, and show off the work proudly.
I guess this is a long way to say I guessed over 275lbs. With two 5 foot boards of what looks like 1" thick solid maple, 2 end panels the same thickness, 3 dividers @ 3/4" or so, and an entire drawer of solid maple, I was sure that console weighed closer to 125 lbs and I overestimated the weight of the records as well. Excellent work and glad to see carpentry staying alive
Hey there your comment is so good but unfortunately UA-cam's type of font is not helping. It would be better if you made it into video. Thank you.
“I’d rather progress myself than spending time holding someone back… the new version is better than the original.” Some great life lessons in there, Chris. Thanks for the video!
Very wise move indeed. Building things and saying goodbye to them as they move out is, as I found, a very good training in letting go of attachment, ego, ownership and all that. A continuing process. But that doesn't mean you should let people just walk over you. Teaching them to give credit where due is not ego but right conduct. I don't get why some prople can't manage to acknowledge someone else's brilliance. It's not like they'd be less themselves if they'd appreciate the great work someone else is doing.
For the record, this was splendid. I want something inspired like this. Thanks Chris.
I mean, that's not realy how you get ahead. Protect your work
@@eskamobob8662 If you want to "protect your work", then go through the trouble and expense of copywriting, and market monitoring. Else, it's just noise. But do realize, there'd be a whole lot coming back, that copywrite's a riff on my ... design lawsuits.
Ideas are something you can give away while keeping. Plus those who create keep creating and those who can't may as well make stuff if they can.
Can I just take a second to appreciate not only the fantastic woodworking, but the SPLENDID cinematography that goes into these videos? It's truly an art, and a pleasure to watch!
Script and wit is pretty splendid too 😂❤😂
I've always loved the word pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis. It's truly splendid.
I love how the bark inclusion is featured!
"For the record" was a splendid way to end the video. This was the first video of yours that I watched. I guessed over so I subscribed and liked. Wonderful designs, workmanship, and narration.
What a splendid video. Just to confirm, I am female 80 years old and don’t even know how to hold a saw.
But I seem to find an unusual pleasure in watching somebody make something that is quite very possibly something I would use in my own home, but am incapable of making myself
The design and build process has always fascinated me, and watching how people come to the conclusion is a fabulous thing to know.
I think the word you wanted that was seven-hundred letters long was substituted by the word splendid if not, don’t worry, I did watch to the end and I guessed under as far as the weight goes. Have a wonderful day.
What a nice lady
What a splendid design! 🤫
That push stick was especially splendid.
Oh... I think you wanted to say:
What a "pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanconiosis" design!
😜
You win the day for transcribing that word.@@TereusHecatonchires
Pneumovolcanicsplendidois
The transparency you show regarding dealing with knocks the public likes to drive into the comment section of your videos is extremely commendable. You have thick skin and I believe that you deserve a great deal of respect for that alone. People are ash holes and most of the tihs you've showed them giving you would probably break the egos of those that made them into little pieces. Splendid video.
I think this video was absolutely SPLENDID. Keep your chin up, ignore the haters & keep making great content like this.
Two things I learned from watching this video:
1. Creativity and Copying can go hand in hand
2. Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovocanoconiosis is the longest word ever to be published in the oxford dictionairy
What a unique combination of information with varying practicality.
Keep up the good work, it's splendid!
You misspelled Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovocanoconiosis. It's: Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis ;)
dictionairy ?
Splendid
oh and i must add as first time commentor on this channel......love the mentor/education/just saying how it worked for them stream of consciousness working through the art.....inspiring..... do we have a video ( i'm lazy and haven't looked yet on how you started and what it takes to get all the 'gear' to setup a shop like this (even if it was just for yourself))......it's just pretty inspiring to say the least and wouldn't mind knowing what's needed to start and then expand a workshop to get to this level....🪵🤟
Spendit work!
"Progressing myself rather than trying to hold somebody else back" -Foureyes. Love this!
Thanks for quoting that. It is really impactful the way he concluded it.
Splendid work indeed!
A little stoicism with your woodworking
This is the first time I have watched one of your videos. Your work is superb. My son asked me to make a cabinet for the stereo system he inherited from me. I told him I don't have the proper woodworking setup to do that. He said "It's just a box with shelves" To which I replied "A box is really hard to do right". I mean, I don't even have a pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis to begin with.
I think this is my first video about woodworking that i did not skip 1 sec. of. It was SPLENDID. i loved it!
Thanks for another Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis video. I am at the very beginning of my woodworking journey, and your videos teach me a lot
did you even watch the video????? ;)
@@jacobmoore4665 because of my splendid comment? 😉 Must be coincidence
I wanted to type the whole thing, then I saw this splendid comment..
I was looking for someone to type out the whole word!
I find your use of the word a splendid idea!
Much like pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis this piece is pretty breathtaking. I like the contrast between the two woods, I like the cutout in the legs (although I think I would've mounted a record on each side) and it's awesome to iterate on a "classic" design to make it better! I also guessed heavier on the weight - I used to help a DJ friend move his record crates, and stacks of vinyl are heavier than you think they would be.
Lastly, on the issue of copying... man that's a stumper. On one hand, there's nothing new under the sun. Every idea has been done or thought of before, so it's not really a "rip-off" per se, plus they had to think of a way to mass produce them. On the other hand, there's the email chain with them asking you for permission. In the end though, I think that the right answer was already achieved - you asked for them to credit you, and they did. Mission accomplished.
I didn't expect to see someone incorporate pneu monoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis into sentence properly
Neither did I. I'm a little impressed.@@Natt_Skapa
@@Natt_SkapaAh, I have some background in medicine, so I vaguely know what it is.
ten thousand points to hufflepuff for breathtaking
This is a splendid video. This is the first time I have found your channel, the vibe is so chill I love it! The animations that help explain the piece, the whole process of making the piece. With the commentary being interesting, switching from explaining the piece and to related stories that really help keep attention and feel more like entertainment rather than a tutorial. Absolutely splendid.
Splendid
Loved watching this... My dad was a joiner and always used to love watching him work and design cupboards and tables and other stuff... always loved seeing the joy on his face when he finally got all his pieces together and being proud of whatever he made... Awesome video
"for the record" that pun was splendid, just splendid. The way you treated the design inspiration was very good of you, and your point about bettering yourself and not wasting more time on that is something to strive for. Keep up your amazing (Splendid) work.
I watch hours of UA-cam woodworkers build furniture. And you’re one of the few that actually make beautiful art out of wood. As an Art Teacher and furniture maker, I really appreciate the style and quality of your work both as a videographer and as a designer/artist.
Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis
Wow, thank you!
Dude, I just stumbled across this video on the UA-cams and, I gotta say, I'm impressed. No, I'm not particularly into woodworking (though my father was a general contractor who enjoyed doing finishing work and occasional furniture construction), but your aesthetic, your production quality, your commentary, your humor, your cool equipment and your insight were all appreciated. I'm an artist who is still trying to find his voice ... I'm glad you found yours. Splendid. Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis ... or whatever! Sorry there are so many trolls in the world. Have you ever noticed that most hide behind their anonymity? Perhaps your next word should be "douchebag." Wishing you all the best. - Brian Diehl
This was a splendid build not affected by pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis. I don't even do woodworking but I do enjoy watching your videos. I'm sure the new owner of this piece is thrilled with the details & quality. Thanks to you & Delores for sharing. Best to you both.
When I first started watching your videos I wasn’t sure as to what in the pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis I was getting into. But, after watching most of your video catalog, I find your work to be splendid.
lol nice words
lol pleasant words
For the record, I bought your “Glen Chair” plans, built, and sold the piece. The first line in the description was giving credit to you guys. I couldn’t see another way that it could have felt right. Being it was my first chair, those plans really held my hand along the way. I can now feel confident going into my own chair build. Thank you.
Not that it’s needed but honestly sense this guy has some big influence in the space
*big opinion here *
But it could even add value to your product , especially sense this guy has a pretty big catalogue & statistically you’ll have a customer go and look, maybe even contact him; get quoted high asf
Then they go back to you and request you to make something they found lol
As an artist, I don't see a problem with this as long as you don't keep making the chair and selling it. Making and selling something once is totally fine even if it's a complete exact copy of someone else's design. As small scale furniture makers we don't often want to keep the stuff we make forever and have to sell it to at least get the material cost back so we can keep making. But mass producing it for a profitable business would be a d**k move in my opinion. If you're at the point of doing that you should be able to design something unique enough or generic enough that it doesn't step on people's toes. Four Eyes and mid century modern are not synonyms. The company in the video could have made a mid century modern record console that didn't rip off Chris and would have sold just as well for them. I guess they didn't have any creative designers on staff.
@@CarlYota I completely agree! From the plans they made I acquired new skills. With those new skills I can confidently attempt my own design. Besides... making the same stuff all the time is boring and not very challenging.
@@CarlYota Sorry but as soon as you give/sell plans for someone else to make stuff that you originally designed, you give them the right to reproduce it. That's the whole point of giving plans. That they sell it or not afterward is their own choice.
Unless you specifically state that it's for "personnal use only - no resale permitted". Even then, I'm not sure how it would hold in court.
Patents aren't for dogs...
@@SgtDusterThat's why they shouldn't "sell" plans, but provide a license to the plans for use. But there are other options if he was interested in protecting his designs.
Firstly a very good job, secondly let me clarify that you are good at all points, you imagine, you design, you create. I would copy you 100%, believe me. I as a newly born carpenter who has 3 power tools and a lot of desire to grow I just tell you one thing, be yourself and keep up the good work, who cares if someone steals and sells your projects, you are the master of the whole operation , this person or company steals 1 thing and you create 10 more. Good job man, I'm definitely going to sub you
I was only planning to binge watch random furniture making videos, but the "splendid" wisdom you shared made me sub.
“For the record”, this video just made my day!
Splendid, indeed; Inspiring, truly.
This was SPLENDID. Honestly, I really enjoyed your dry humor while creating a physically useful and pleasant to view furniture piece that most people on here wouldn't know the first thing about how to even start creating. Your attitude about people copying pieces is admirable, and if more people would show the grace and respect that you embody, the world would be a better place.
This is the first video that I've seen from you! I'm excited to go through and see the other pieces you've made. I find your designs and sketches absolutely splendid, and I'm feeling inspired to go and work on some of my own art and pieces!
Splendid! I loved your monologue on the pro's and con's of using other people's designs, allowing them to use yours, etc.
I am glad the company is giving you credit.
Splendid.
They say imitation is the greatest form of flattery. Not only that but I think it's an ego boost as well.
Yeah, but a 5%-10% share in the sales price would be better. Maybe in exchange for pointers and his stamp of approval. He likes making uniques, and they are in the business of making small runs. Some people will want the exact same as the one in the video, so the two companies could very well profit off each other.
I'm not into wood working
I'm not into furniture making
I click on your video out of curiosity.
I stayed for your skills, your tools, your voice calm and relaxed.
Splendid.
:)
theres another woodworker on youtube that has an insanely calming voice... must be a woodworker trait lol...
i’m just getting into furniture building, and i’m fairly new to woodworking, your Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis video has really inspired me to keep practicing!
thanks for this video!
I'm not into building furniture... but I loved watching it.
... the best thing for me were your thoughts around the copy topic and I agree to 100 percent to your final conclusion... they don't affect you if you don't allow them.
thanks!
When you're bored and UA-cam recommends a random video to you, lol. Splendid work, the furniture looks absolutely beautiful.
I literally taught myself how to code websites, from scratch, by just copying the code of existing websites and playing around with all of the lines and variables and seeing how my changes affected the home-copy version of the site. Learning is literally all about copying - you learn to talk by copying your parents talking (which is why we end up with the same accent as them), you learn to count and spell by copying what is written on your textbooks or in learning programmes on computers. We learn how to drive a car by watching our instructors and copying what they do, whilst being told the REASONS why they are doing it that way. So yes, copying and then experimenting with that copy is not only an okay thing to do - it's absolutely vital in how the whole process of learning works. And it's not even a uniquely human thing either - a big cat in the wild learns how to hunt by literally watching and copying its parent.
BTW, this video was absolutely splendid! And I don't say that about just any video you know! 😁
I know right, even if with engineering degree copying is SPLENDID way of getting better at sw dev, or anything for that matter
Respectful mimicry is the basis of most art. And anyway, you'd never end up making 100% identical things if you go all the way and learn the skills.
BUT, there is a BIG DIFFERENCE between "copying" as a student, and copying a high-end piece of furniture (or other item or artwork), and then AS A BUSINESS, SELL THE COPIED PRODUCT EN MASS TO THE PUBLIC!
Those are NOT THE SAME!
So what you gave is not a good example.
@@pat4005 The piece he made was a design inspired by a style of furniture. I have a friend who makes one off furniture in this style and they all look similar with minor differences. His original to me looked a lot like a 60s style record player with storage. Nothing revolutionary. So in reality he copied others for this design just as much as they copied him. These guys think too highly of themselves in my opinion. They should say who inspired it though but so should foureyes furniture.
I've watched the whole video, its not boring, editing is great, and you are skilled woodworker. Stay positive.
Splendid! I am happy the company gave you the props for inspiration considering it really is all you wanted, and in the real world, without copyrights, it is all that is required, such as quoting someone in a literature paper or scientific journal.
I come for the woodworking, stay for the therapy, and always leave a degree wiser. Another thoughtful and splendid video Chris. Thank you.
I really appreciate the commentary on copying and parallel thought. So often we think we've got a unique and SPLENDID idea but there's simply far too many folks out there for every idea to be unique. This is the first video of yours I've watched but it's nice to get some philosophical thought and commentary along with satisfying clips of woodworking.
Isn’t these DIY channels for copying what they do its basically step by step on how to do what they make in the videos
Awesome Philosophy
Truth be told, I initially clicked on your video because I liked the thumbnail of an interesting furniture design. As an audio enthusiast into vinyl, I’m always on the lookout for unique and inspiring content.
In today’s increasingly maddening popularity of dog-eat-dog behavior that has become the norm, it is refreshing and comforting that there are still creatives like you with an almost “Zen” philosophy towards the environment and people’s self-centered behavior.
It is also refreshing to watch a UA-camr who uses a calm and sound analytical approach instead of deploying click-bait tricks just to increase views for monetization. Now don’t get me wrong, I’m all for monetization. However, from my small sample of UA-camrs, it appears that many of them have lost “it.” When I say “it,” I’m talking about the drive and curiosity of a creative who started their journey to explore and follow their interests.
You, on the other hand, have stayed true to your initial reason as a creative. I love your craft, your passion, and your philosophy. I too try to be true to myself and follow a similar path. I think this is a good way to live. Oh, by the way, you were splendid.
Wow, stumbled upon this video while browsing for music, and let me tell you, it was quite the unexpected journey! UA-cam's autoplay feature led me here, and I couldn't be more grateful. As someone who's passionate about furniture design, I've got to say, this video really struck a chord with me. Not only did I learn the meaning of 'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis' (who knew!), but I also discovered that I might have a touch of Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia! How splendid is that?
But I digress. Your story, your craftsmanship, it's all so captivating. Despite the hiccup with your client's expectations, your dedication to your work shines through. Quality is hard to come by, and your piece is a true testament to that. Just to mess up your poll, I subscribed and liked your video, sorry!
Always a pleasure to sit back and hear you talking for half an hour while watching splendid designs being shaped out of wood.
I built myself a coffee table inspired from your spider table and actually modified it to make it way nicer (read : easier to build for a noob like myself).
You're inspiring, keep the pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis vibe going ! (I knew I could copy paste that from another nice comment ;)
Good one
It's interesting that this showed you randomly in my feed because the moment you showed your original console I thought " I recognise that!"
The reason being is that back around 2009/10 I built almost the identical thing but without the legs/base. Because mine was for the bottom of some floor to ceiling bookshelves meaning that the piece stood by itself on the floor and then four tall bookshelves sat atop of it. I made mine from what them was probably the last available Parana pine available in the UK as it's no longer available due to bans over sustainability. It was beautiful and had some lovely deep reds in that lent itself to just oiling rather than staining. I also left the inclusions and knots in and just epoxied them because they add character and I knew I would be unable to source any more lumber.
But yeah, I guess there is little new in design and it's not worth getting upset about seeing your designs on other pieces but when you have directly had contact with a company that then goes ahead and reproduces your work for profit after being told you are not interested in producing more, then that I'd be talking to a lawyer about.
Anyway some 15 years later the bookshelves which I built for my aunt are still going strong and just need some Danish mixed with linseed to oil them up once a year.
But yeah, that base is almost identical to what I came up with on the fly. ( I did bullnose the leading edges before i finished as it just seemed right at the time. )
Wonderful bespoke pieces you produce.
Loved your philosophical self-awareness and ultimate conclusion. Kindred spirits discovered on UA-cam is a nearly magical thing. Your work is transcendent.
This is an absolutely SPLENDID video! The way that you keep your workshop so organised and clean as well as the whole process, ugh I love it! Also the array of the tools and jigs you got there is truly impressive. Brass Chunky? Amazing! Keep on doing the great work!
Probably your BEST outro in my opinion. "both officially and for the record". Also, just as a note, copyrights are automatically bestowed. You need not to register them for legal protection. So, technically speaking, if a person decides to 'use' any of your designs for profit - they are supposed to get consent from the creator and or some sort of licensing agreement. Even if they make minor tweaks to the original design, if it can reasonably deceive an unsuspecting consumer - it is enough to obtain an interdict to stop them from using your design. Obviously, this is a more legal route which, honestly speaking, could be more expensive than the piece itself. Herein lies the challenge. But, we LOVE that you are constantly creating and improving and or updating your designs. No offense to the old design but this one is too sweet!!!
Are you sure that designs like this are copyrightable? I see architecture listed from the government website on copyright as an example of a copyrightable work, but not smaller pieces. The instructions (written or video) to build the piece are certainly copyrightable, but I'm less sure on if the derived object built from such plans is copyrighted.
(I think it should be copyrightable, but I also think copyrights should expire after ~25 years, so my suggestions on copyright don't necessarily line up with actual copyright law.)
@@dosadoodleActually, "instructions to build or assemble" an item (also referred to as plans or pattern) are specifically exempted from copyright protection. The exception to this is architectural blueprints.
Copyright does not protect furniture design, unless the piece is so unique that it would be reasonably considered a work of art. A piece of furniture would only be protected by either a patent (utility or design), or trade dress. And again, with a patent or trade dress, the piece would have to be ridiculously unique and immediately associable with the creator in order to be granted protection.
you forgot the Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis
This would need a design patent its not a concept protected by copyright.
This distinction is important so that you can have 3rd party screws and stuff. You wouldn't want a physical items resemblence to fall under copyright
So I must tell you...beyond saying the mundane "I really like your work", which I absolutely do....that your videos are spectacular for at least several other reasons. They are intelligent....they speak to someone as an adult with adult language and genuine sincerity. They are humble....you seem to view this craft as just that, a truly pure craft that appeals not just to the aesthetic side of making something beautiful, but also to the mindset one ought to have when bringing their creativity to the world....I admire that. Finally, they are "unpompous" (I think I made up this word)....you impress as a teacher to a newer woodworker like me (who is old enough to be your father), but not one who is full of themselves or think they are Gods gift to woodworking. Sorry to prattle on. I'll definitely continue to watch. Gratefully, K
really also the approach to the project and the story seem similar; just that approach of wanting to build it and giving the buyer first dibs, but no hard feelings if that iterations wasn't for him; that's so much autonomy, which show throughout the storytelling as well; genuine sincerity captures it well. But unpompous is such a nice betrayel of it's own origin as a word; that I'll keep that as a reminder to myself at the back of my brain when working on a project :)
I randomly came across with your video, I enjoyed every minute of it in so many aspects. The way you work, the tools, the dry jokes, the videography and the editing.. and of course, the pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis thing.. it was splendid..
You have a splendid attitude about the whole thing. Glad they owned up and gave you credit for the inspiration.
I'm a big fan of including "imperfections" like bark inclusions, knots, etc.. Wabi sabi, man. I think the bark inclusion in your piece is SPLENDID. Even pneumoblogolyxicalifragilistic....
I saw a review in a guitar woodworking section where someone ranted about an “imperfection” in his high end guitar neck. It was, in fact, likely a bark inclusion. I thought it looked lovely:)
splendid, really. had to rewatch the end a few times, because as a record guy I was distracted by the audio equipment and missed how the bark inclusion turned out.
Everything about this video is splendid, especially the thorough, sound & mature reasoning on the subject
This splendid piece of art work is motivating me to get to my vinyl and woodworking! Thank you! Great job.
Funny you should mention pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis, I actually suffered from this after climbing Mt. Merapi in Central Java back in 2012. Climbed the volcano about three days after an eruption, and there was volcanic dust all over the trail. The climb was tough so I was breathing heavily most of the ascent with no form of dust protection. Two days later I was holed up in bed suffering from a lung infection, thanks to the dust shards.
Anyway, great story and I love both the process and the splendid piece! Keep on doing you and stay positive! Your stories of improvement through practice are inspiring!
Very nice piece. After going from no home, to finally a place to lay my head. I’ve bought a makita circular saw from a local pawn shop. I love woodworking. I’m going to save every nickel I can to buy me one of these pens to support your channel. You’re my favorite woodworker on UA-cam and have helped me through some really really dark times in my life. Thank you Chris, and I give you my word, I’ll buy me one of those pens to support you. It may take me a few months to be able to save that much, but I’ll be super excited to have one. Once again, thanks for being so humble and thanks for helping me, whether you know how much you have or not.
first time i’ve found your channel on here and i must say that pencil you’ve invented is absolutely splendid. i was gunna ask where you got it until you explained your new business and that it was you that made the pencil. loved how the piece turned out too, your attention to detail is second to none. just subscribed, can’t wait to go through the rest of your vids. ☺️👏🏻
Jesus this is a great video. Amazing editing, stellar commentary, epic tone, and professionally uses a bunch of high dollar tools, and can easily build a neat wooden frame. That looked absolutely crazy even in your glamour shots of it. Your poor went so well, your colour design was astounding, your framework is stunning, your stain work was wondrous. People are getting their money's worth and more!
And the choice of Joe Jackson's "Look Sharp" and that iconic album cover was Splendid too!
Came to the comments to see who caught the album choice. Splendid job @tonybrock5288
Too many people think their ideas are precious. But ideas are a dime a dozen. Splendid execution is precious. Yes, it's better to be creative & execute your own ideas, but virtually everything is inspired by something else, & virtually no one wants to copy someone else exactly anyway.
have you seen Temu and Wish?
@@ShenanigansTV Besides China!
@@ShenanigansTV Better than Amazon.
@daniel4647 both are shit, but at least amazon will have original creators and authors for it's products. So they dont JUST want to copy
There is a difference of being inspired by and by blatantly copy it and MASS produce it. Nobody would cry a river when its just a one off.
Im on the last bit of the video and so far I can say, i've watched a bunch of woodworking videos on youtube since I got interested in this topic few years (like.. 10-12 years or so?) ago. And - to be truely honest - Nothing but NOTHING about your video is boring. It's packed with information and full of experience of a young man who's doing great stuff with skills and precision he accumulated over a decent amount of time now. You're doing a really great job! Your designs are beautifull and modern while timeless and the finished products speak of the experience and patience of their builder. Keep on doing this :D
About the topic of companies stealing ideas and making money with this - sadly that's not new. Sometimes the companys designer takes the efford to modify the stolen creation just enough so that it fits their range of products or just so the original designer cant claim the design as his - because it was clearly changed (taking inspiration isn't stealing so to speak). But some... well some dont even take these effords and rely on the fact that it's way to much efford for the original designer to claim the design as his and enforce this copyright by law if necessary.
Whatever - to tell you, they like your product and want to sell it (by buying your funiture or even just the blueprints or just mention you as the original designer without paying you so you at least get some credits) and THEN stealing the concept after you told them your work isnt ment to be sold as a massproduct - that's a rude dickmove. At least they gave you credit for the design lastly but... I don't know. Surely it's not the end of the world but this could have gone much less annoying for both sides.
I often watch your videos as I enjoy many of your designs, this video in particular has got to be my favorite so far and it has nothing to do with the wood work. The reason I like this video is because your secret word the one you used as a joke, I myself have used in the past with my kids (pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis) splendid keep up the good work.
pneumo... err... SPLENDID! Seriously, I always enjoy watching your videos and appreciate your woodworking aesthetic and product designs. By the way, that is "officially and for the record." 😊
What he said but for the record line was way way too cheesy 🤣
One of your best videos to date. Beautiful piece, and the bark inclusion was [chef's kiss]. But the pacing and the writing on the narration were splendid. Leaving and coming back to different topical threads makes this feel like an organic conversation over a beer instead of a tutorial video.
Also, we need more Delores.
Completely agree with the pacing and narration. Really enjoyed this splendid video and look forward to more videos with this format. Thanks Chris!
Agreed more Delores
Splendid, your woodworking is splendid! For the record I watch your videos all the way through every single time. Your voice over is splendid and mezmerizing.
I really like how your drawer knobs remind me of the knobs on my parents' 1960s stereo. Also, I wish more people would apply the rule: "If you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all." There is a time and a place for constructive criticism, but the examples you showed do not qualify. Also, thank you for introducing me to the splendidly longest word in the English language. The lexical enthusiast in me bows in humble gratitude. :)
So hyped about that thumbnail shout out 🙏🏻😂 splendid
Haha. All praise to the UA-cam recommendations on the home page
What a "splendid" video. If you happen to read this I would like to say thanks. Your videos have been a big inspiration in my woodworking journey. Watching the videos of you cranking out furniture from your garage to where you are now helps me realize anything is possible. I truly appreciate you sharing your knowledge on UA-cam thanks foureyes!
I'm old, female, and an artist, but I have no idea or equipment to do splendid woodworking like you. So....I just thoroughly enjoy your videos.
A splendid video with pleasant narration. When I copy this design I will drop the deck flush into the top surface, make the sleeve support rod just hinge up from one end and avoid any bark blemish.
I was... impressed? surprised? ... that the term MCM was never mentioned in the splendid design. I LOVE that cabinet, and would dig out my old turntable, and unbox my cache of 30, 40, 50 year old albums just to show off the furniture! Excellent job, sir! I was apprehensive about sitting through the video when I saw its length, and before I knew it, it was over. Thanks for my best lunch break in a few weeks!
I love your designs as they are deceptively simple. Also, my compliments on not freaking out over a company copying your design. There are few people on YT who are as engaging and as insightful as you, so I'm happy to have found you doing what makes you happy. Thanks for all you do to instruct the rest of us.
Splendid!! Just found your channel and love it. Can’t wait to share with my local woodworking group😊
I will say it was a lovely topic. Now a days there is so much out there and we are so connected that yeah you can accidentally or intentionally copy someone else idea, but that can spring new ideas off the copy. How you use that idea is the key. By the way i really liked those knobs you shared from Buster Punch. They look really nice and would be a great knob for a project. Just wanted to let you know that i really enjoyed the video and topic of conversation. It was splendid!
This is a splendid video. I've got a terrible toothache right now, and the dentist isn't open till Monday. A relaxing, satisfying build video is exactly the kind of distraction I need.
This is crazy. I stumbled across your video and paused it at all the emails and quickly realized that the company you speak of is in my neighborhood! They changed their name and moved neighborhoods. Got a dilapidated building on our local main commercial street that frankly is in great need of more businesses. They fixed it up and it’s now one of the jewels of the neighborhood. The owners are good people and they do amazing furniture work (mostly restoration, as I understand). They do things for the neighborhood, host markets, etc. Anyway, you were very respectful in how you talked about them, which is to your great credit, despite what really does appear to be a copycat design. But thanks for not outing them or going too hard on them. They really just are a nice little place that is helping our neighborhood and offers high quality beautiful Danish-inspired furniture. It’s splendid. ❤❤❤
It's you who copied and stole his design, am I right? 🤔
You painted a nice picture of a thief.
So a thief that is nice to you or your immediate community deserves to be treated differently and or evade any punishment or backlash. I can respect what Foureyes Furniture chose to do and how they chose to do it. But people like you disgust me, think about it yourself why that may be so, I won't bother to read your reply.
I’m not a woodworking guy and don’t particularly care about or enjoy woodworking. However, I have to say your video was intriguing and interesting to watch. Thank you and well done!
THANK GOD YOU CHANGED THE WORD TO"SPLENDID" LOL! I always enjoy your work, tone, jokes, attention to detail, and overall personality. I wish I had space to do some of these things. I actually love working with my hands. From one youtuber to another, keep up the great work and stay true to you bro!
Woah! This piece is amazing, just like the longest word in the dictionary: pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis. I love the additions of mark inclusions and mineral deposits in furniture. Two tricks that I use when including them are instead of using just black epoxy, I use coarse walnut dust and 5-minute 2-part epoxy and mix it to a chewed Tootsie Roll consistency. The other is using Naphtha to reveal how the area would look after finishing if you were to oil and wax, or oil and lacquer the piece. the best part about Naphtha is that it dries quickly and leaves the wood as it looked before. Keep up the great work!
My dad passed this one on to me years (years!) ago: polymorphonuclearneutrophilicleukocytosis, after which I made a model of polymorphonuclearneutrophilicleukocytes for a high school science project. At the time, it may have been the champ, but now I see it falls short of the heavyweight belt by five letters. All that's left is a one way ticket to Palookaville.
the longest word in the dictionary is elastic, it gets bigger and bigger
@@PlayGrum, uh-uh. Smiles, because there is a mile between the two s's.
On the note of learning from copying, it's a tale as old as time, and like you said, legitimately a really good technique to get better. It's actually one of the earlier functions for art museums, which would make works accessible for students to go study, and reference (and essentially make their own copies from) as a way to learn different techniques and styles.
Not sure but I think this is where the term masterpiece came from originally
There is a documentary (originally a talk) called "Everything is a Remix", it makes some good points.
Came here for the woodwork I don't need. Stayed for the wisdom I didn't know I needed. Very healthy mindset. Commendable.
I enjoyed watching the process, but I found most valuable the thoughts on inspiration and copying. Thank you.
I don't usually watch woodwork videos, but I'm glad youtube recommended this to me. It's so therapeutic! Splendid!
I loved hearing your thoughts on copying, stealing and inspiration when it comes to your designs. What a splendid video! Great done 4e!
There's a hypnotic quality to this video that left me feeling quite splendid. I was concerned you may be affected by pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis, but you should be safe since you're not working with ash or silica dust. The finished piece is gorgeous and makes me wish that I cared about records. Everything about your craftsmanship screams excellence and I appreciate you sharing it with us.
This was a splendid version of perfect pneumonoultramicroscopicsillcovolcanoconosis featuring a calm myopic man in a wood shop. Thank you for such a calming and educational video.
I massively respect your ability to be at peace with someone nicking your design. You’re a bigger man than I cos I’d be pissed! Also your videos are splendid ❤
It also helps that there's nothing you can legally do about it. At some point you have to take the stoics' advice and let go of things you can't control. Anything else is an insane reaction if done long term. All you do is make your life experience suck. As they say, it's like drinking poison and expecting your enemy to die. There's really no sane choice but to be at peace with it.
One of my favorite quotes from Anne of Avonlea is "Imitation is the highest form of flattery" I love your perspective on copying and especially when it comes to selling designs based on other people's work. This cabinet was absolutely splendid. I guessed over 275 pounds, but I had already liked and subscribed. 😅
Did you know the quote goes on to say "that mediocrity can pay to greatness"? That just knocks it out of the park imo
L.M. Montgomery was quoting a proverb that had been in use for some time by the time Anne of Avonlea was written.
@@ktulu193 That's Oscar Wilde's addition to a proverb that was already in existence.
I started watching this video as I was interested in the design. But I ended up learning so much about life, integrity, work ethics, character and what not!
I have made my grown-up kids and other family members to watch and listen to everything you say.
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What a splendid opportunity to take back your own design and show the world that you were the original inspiration for others and not the other way around! I really like this style of video where you're telling an interesting story at the same time as narrating the build!
This video is inspiring on several levels. You’re unabashedly honest and show skill, integrity as well as empathy. Thank you for sharing this. Truly splendid!
As someone who has a BFA in Design and work in in multiple issues of Architectural Digest, you learn there is no such thing as an original idea. If you look at your work close enough, you will find influences from all over the place, not just the furniture you have seen in magazines or youtube videos. So, you could argue that even your own design owes something to somebody. What is yours is how you put those influences together in a new way. Musicians all use the same notes and scales, but put them together in creative ways. However, in this case, with the interaction with the company documented, you could go after them for a licensing fee. Even IKEA lists the designer's name on their furniture.
Subscribed to this channel in large part because of the "That's the table my dog would draw if he had opposable thumbs" comment. Superb work, too, and definitely inspiring. Splendid, you could say.
i’ve never found myself so invested in a woodworking video before, this was splendid ^-^
just wanted to hear the story and got a lot more out of this video than i imagined. exactly the type of youtube i love. I hope ur life stays blessed.
I really appreciate your position and in allowing others to use your designs and even profit from them. That is very fair and decent of you.
Truly a splendid video. I wish I had more of an opportunity to see the pneumonoultramiceoscipicilicovolcamocomiosis. The editing and all of your explanations and descriptions were elite. Keep it up.