1984 - Dystopias and Apocalypses - Extra Sci Fi

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  • @extrahistory
    @extrahistory  5 років тому +1136

    The idea that Orwell presents us in 1984 is that people subtle enough and brutal enough can take the undirected dissatisfaction and anger of a society and point it at whatever they will, using us to damn ourselves.

    • @AurelioGod
      @AurelioGod 5 років тому

      Tell me hi

    • @Villanuevac4
      @Villanuevac4 5 років тому +5

      Extra Sci Fi idea: Command and Conquer Red Alert kind of scenario.

    • @whoadermatespoodlefunk65
      @whoadermatespoodlefunk65 5 років тому +1

      That twitter joke was absolute trash.

    • @felixschrider9037
      @felixschrider9037 5 років тому +3

      @@Joshua.Z7 they just did ^^^^^^

    • @ComatHam
      @ComatHam 5 років тому +5

      @@felixschrider9037 Look at the political landscape at the moment. If you think that this is just happening in other places then you are wrong.

  • @kebabremoveth5257
    @kebabremoveth5257 5 років тому +1893

    You should also have talked about the manipulation of language. It’s an important part of the ideas Orwell tries to express.

    • @ohalbleib
      @ohalbleib 5 років тому +41

      I see you there Stalingrad

    • @Argletrough
      @Argletrough 5 років тому +97

      Not remembering to talk about that would be ungood.

    • @mrspeigle1
      @mrspeigle1 5 років тому +67

      Definitely part that they missed, and rather important given the way things are going today.

    • @aluisious
      @aluisious 5 років тому +13

      Human Resources

    • @SwissMappin
      @SwissMappin 5 років тому +6

      Hello Comrade Stalin

  • @TheFireHawkDelta
    @TheFireHawkDelta 5 років тому +2008

    "One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power." - my favorite quote from 1984

    • @DiThi
      @DiThi 5 років тому +73

      Back when I read the book I didn't know Orwell was defending anarchism (the real one, a.k.a. libertarian socialism).
      Too bad I didn't know what anarchism really is until pretty recently. I was taught something that was technically true but was devoid of meaning.

    • @TopsideCrisis346
      @TopsideCrisis346 5 років тому +27

      That quote is scary relevant to today's political climate. Especially in Seattle.

    • @praetorxian
      @praetorxian 5 років тому +15

      Sounds like the Democratic Party.

    • @Argacyan
      @Argacyan 5 років тому +41

      Most people are either sceptical or just don't know the author was ancom or anarcho-socialist because people in politics, mostly rightists and anticommunist centrists, since the release of the book had a tendency to misuse or flat out lie about both the book 1984 and Blair (aka Orwell) himself.

    • @neilcaff
      @neilcaff 5 років тому +7

      @@TopsideCrisis346 why Seattle particularly?

  • @harbingerofsarcasm2510
    @harbingerofsarcasm2510 5 років тому +1543

    Something I didn't know until recently is that George Orwell is a pen name. In reality his name was Eric Arthur Blair.

    • @toddharig8142
      @toddharig8142 5 років тому +156

      Supposedly an MI6 Agent was keeping an eye on Orwell when he was writing the book. The agents code name was O'brien. Can't remember where i read this but that one creepy coincidence.

    • @DiracComb.7585
      @DiracComb.7585 5 років тому +48

      Harbinger of Sarcasm I didn’t even know he was a socialist, so I have much to learn.

    • @lukedufaur5368
      @lukedufaur5368 5 років тому +121

      @@Feroce He was still a Socialist to his death. He was just frustrated with how most British Communists/Socialists fell in with Stalin's line of thought, particularly after WW2.

    • @nikitakrim02
      @nikitakrim02 5 років тому +19

      @@lukedufaur5368 he expressed this in "thoughts on nationalism"

    • @DMSProduktions
      @DMSProduktions 5 років тому +8

      @@lukedufaur5368 He was a 'pox on all your houses' type. Just like me!

  • @TheFuri0uswc
    @TheFuri0uswc 5 років тому +2321

    *Big Brother would like to know your location*

    • @mcseedat
      @mcseedat 5 років тому +106

      And access to your speaker, camera, microphone... Microwave.. Micropenis

    • @Ethan-mp7wr
      @Ethan-mp7wr 5 років тому +15

      Yusuf Seedat
      I’m getting fucked with by big brother :(
      You’ve taken my freedom, my happiness, my everything. Don’t take away my pride.

    • @DiracComb.7585
      @DiracComb.7585 5 років тому +7

      Ethan Tian Big brother does not care what you want and don’t want. Now get to the Two Minute Hate. We will talk later.

    • @MrMogi-zg2ud
      @MrMogi-zg2ud 5 років тому +70

      *Big Brother already had your location.*

    • @lemmingrad
      @lemmingrad 5 років тому +10

      Big Brother just wants to know what Ads to throw at you.

  • @floorpuncher3280
    @floorpuncher3280 5 років тому +2368

    I just finished reading a 1984 chapter like 10 seconds ago. Did you install telescreens in my room?

    • @vukhuathuy2866
      @vukhuathuy2866 5 років тому +50

      Same thing happened to me when they release the Brave New Word episode

    • @MrRingworld
      @MrRingworld 5 років тому +94

      Remember Big Brother... er Extra Credits is watching you.

    • @seelcudoom1
      @seelcudoom1 5 років тому +21

      like they said, big brother is watching

    • @Alzzarla
      @Alzzarla 5 років тому +27

      Big Credits is watching you!

    • @_May_019
      @_May_019 5 років тому +1

      We read that at the beginning of the school year.

  • @stormydragon2668
    @stormydragon2668 5 років тому +656

    Subtle detail in 1984 a lot of people overlook: the appendix keeps referring to Ingsoc in the past tense, implying the people did eventually overthrow them.

    • @namkedi
      @namkedi 4 роки тому +62

      Stormy Dragon what I’m reading this book and didn't notice omg

    • @callis245
      @callis245 4 роки тому +103

      Hey, this makes the whole book seem a lot less depressing.

    • @sadisrmaacy4341
      @sadisrmaacy4341 3 роки тому +33

      I mean, also the whole book constantly demonstrates unambiguously that they definitely will with no chance of failure.

    • @theeternalslayer
      @theeternalslayer 3 роки тому +7

      The party can torture its citizens into obedience but can't eliminate their humanity and independent thinking, basically the ultimate weapons against authoritarianism.

    • @sergeantscarecrow
      @sergeantscarecrow 2 роки тому +22

      @@theeternalslayer You do realize the entire 3rd part of the book is just dedicated how they destroy the human will, one's thinking, and brainwash people to get to love Big Brother, even if they were the staunchest rebel?

  • @shaddonon
    @shaddonon 5 років тому +709

    Thank you for focusing on the *really* scary stuff in 1984--the mental gymnastics we can inflict on one another (and on ourselves). The surveillance tech is of course very frightening but nothing is scarier than what happens in the very last line of 1984. Being mindful--even just putting yourself in check for a moment--was a great note to end the vid on. Critical thinking is something that *many* people simply do not experience. So take a breath! Be mindful! Be empathetic!

    • @larrychilders6599
      @larrychilders6599 5 років тому +8

      The sad truth is we are closer and closer to that as we speak. Just look at the Don't Kick Vic movement

    • @luciussvartwulf6630
      @luciussvartwulf6630 5 років тому +25

      yeah, the part where is said "twitter's terms of service" was waaaaay to accurate.

    • @AntonAdelson
      @AntonAdelson 5 років тому +9

      To be honest I thought the scariest part was vocabulary changes...

    • @BigKnecht
      @BigKnecht 5 років тому +8

      >Critical thinking is domething most people don't experience
      But you do big boy, am I right? You smartypants would never be swayed by a dystopian government. Sure thing.
      Saying this tells me you don't understand shit about 1984 or society and humanity at all.

    • @letsseepaulallenscard1140
      @letsseepaulallenscard1140 5 років тому +18

      @@BigKnecht Don't get your panties in a bunch now

  • @discordingstichery6830
    @discordingstichery6830 5 років тому +844

    I think twitter should be called the two minutes of hate

    • @DiThi
      @DiThi 5 років тому +123

      Or 280 characters of hate.

    • @dookie_12
      @dookie_12 5 років тому +17

      More like two terms hate

    • @ServantofÄzrael
      @ServantofÄzrael 5 років тому +9

      More like the two eons of hate

    • @Rareknightking
      @Rareknightking 5 років тому +6

      discordingStichery it’s why I no longer use Twitter.

    • @christopherg2347
      @christopherg2347 5 років тому +5

      So, the inverse of 15 minutes of fame?

  • @Jinglestv-xz1hu
    @Jinglestv-xz1hu 5 років тому +94

    One of my favorite things about 1984 is that I have watched dozens of videos, each detailing, in great detail, what Orwell’s central thesis (on what we should avoid) truly is.
    All of them are different, yet somehow, all of them are correct.

  • @DiracComb.7585
    @DiracComb.7585 5 років тому +449

    I have seen analyses from Overly Sarcastic Productions, and Crash Course Literature, but I have a feeling that I will still learn something new from this channel

    • @LegoCookieDoggie
      @LegoCookieDoggie 5 років тому +4

      Did you? I did... huh so my philosophy of IDGAF what others think is helping to fight tyranny?

    • @Docwilson91
      @Docwilson91 5 років тому +1

      I was curious to see who else I watched covered this and you answered my question so thanks kind stranger!

    • @Aracelerii
      @Aracelerii 5 років тому +1

      I think TED-ED has also looked at 1984

    • @DiracComb.7585
      @DiracComb.7585 5 років тому +1

      Alexander S. Oh didn’t know they did that. I’ll look into that. Thanks for my next vid.

    • @juancarlosmartinez2876
      @juancarlosmartinez2876 5 років тому +1

      Alternate History Hub also has a video explaining 1984 from a lore and worldbuilding perspective.

  • @adityaraman8901
    @adityaraman8901 5 років тому +350

    "War is peace
    Freedom is slavery
    Ignorance is strength.”

    • @venompheonix
      @venompheonix 5 років тому +22

      "Truth is lies
      Hate is love
      Fear is hope"

    • @Ghost_of_Avalon
      @Ghost_of_Avalon 5 років тому +20

      Strength through unity!
      unity through faith!
      Peace through power!

    • @yeettheheat
      @yeettheheat 4 роки тому +7

      Could also be a speech from WH40K

    • @janesullivan692
      @janesullivan692 4 роки тому +1

      Truth isn't truth

    • @jacobh9344
      @jacobh9344 3 роки тому +10

      “2 + 2 = 5”

  • @yozen1995
    @yozen1995 5 років тому +352

    5:00 Always important to remember in the appendix
    "Newspeak **was** the national language of Oceania"
    Ingsoc fails.

    • @harbl99
      @harbl99 5 років тому +126

      Well, that wasn't real IngSoc then. Real IngSoc has never been tried.

    • @vikramvalame9990
      @vikramvalame9990 5 років тому +58

      Of course, after the traitor Goldstein twisted the language to his nefarious ends, Big Brother's infinite wisdom lead to the creation of a new language: English.

    • @theblueknight9746
      @theblueknight9746 5 років тому +88

      @@vikramvalame9990 Indeed; oldspeak is plus ungood and doubleplus ungoodthinkful. Mans who duckquack blackwhite oldthinkful oldspeak unbellyfeel ingsoc, and must be unpersoned. [Edit: this is actually a grammatically correct and understandable sentence in Newspeak.]

    • @will1603
      @will1603 5 років тому +7

      @@harbl99 you what?

    • @nebojsag.5871
      @nebojsag.5871 5 років тому +3

      No that's just how the English language works.

  • @frankharr9466
    @frankharr9466 5 років тому +25

    That book messed with my head for months after I'd finished reading it.
    My brother once, for reasons that are not important, decided that he was going to write a paper finding the humor in 1984. He decided that it was, in part, a really bad British boys' school.

  • @seanmurphy3430
    @seanmurphy3430 5 років тому +280

    I was gonna say, if you think taking 2 minutes out of your day to yell at out-of-context clips of someone you're told you should be mad at is absurd, you clearly have never used the internet. Or, for that matter, watched cable news.

    • @Newportal1
      @Newportal1 5 років тому +12

      Or even read certain newspapers. It's like they know what makes us angry and pushes those buttons. Just like anybody with a paint program. THEY'LL DRAW PENISES! Why? Because it's shocking and gets an immature giggle.

    • @danilooliveira6580
      @danilooliveira6580 5 років тому +10

      that is true. however, we live in a world where we have the right to not take anything at face value, you can laugh at a comedian talking about politics, but you don't need to believe in everything he says. and that is the important distinction here, the line is only crossed when a power starts to decide for you what is true and what is not. 1984 only takes that to the extreme, where the government not only controls what is the truth, but also controls how you should feel. and if you don't believe or you don't feel what you are supposed to, then you are a enemy of the state and the people.

    • @EmperorFool
      @EmperorFool 5 років тому +5

      Only today it's 200 minutes hate.

    • @AustroHungarianEmpire1867
      @AustroHungarianEmpire1867 5 місяців тому

      ​​@@danilooliveira6580Indeed, in our current world, we still have a choice. We still have our own conscious minds.

  • @Jodonho
    @Jodonho 5 років тому +296

    Only two minutes of hate?
    Sovereign citizens can do better than that.

    • @braith117
      @braith117 5 років тому +8

      They're quite an amusing bunch. Not the brightest, but still amusing.

    • @candiduscorvus
      @candiduscorvus 5 років тому +15

      Antifa puts sovereign citizens to shame.

    • @Sinyao
      @Sinyao 5 років тому +25

      Ahh, there we go. There's always someone who calls the group who is literally anti fascist the fascists.

    • @2312uri
      @2312uri 5 років тому +3

      Twitter: those are rockie numbers

    • @adriannaranjo4397
      @adriannaranjo4397 5 років тому +2

      "I DO NOT CONSENT TO BEING ARRESTED"

  • @Gala-yp8nx
    @Gala-yp8nx 5 років тому +156

    This video was double plus good.

  • @rileyknapp5318
    @rileyknapp5318 5 років тому +131

    Honestly kinda surprised you didn't go into doublethink further. Still really like this though

    • @Big5ocks
      @Big5ocks 5 років тому +4

      Riley Knapp there is so much to talk about in 1984. It’s one of my favourite dystopian novels and my favourite from Orwell. This should have been at least an hour long!

  • @1897_lmb_
    @1897_lmb_ 5 років тому +110

    1949: In 1984 there will be dictatorship
    1984: TAKEEEEE ONNN MEEEEEEEEEEE!

    • @Merennulli
      @Merennulli 4 роки тому +12

      2002: Ok, they think that darn book was an overreaction. Time to get to work.
      (Just realized someone will probably think this is a typo for 2020. 2002 was when a lot of the "big brother" style laws enabling government overreach and undermining civil liberties in the name of security began to take root with the fervor of the "War on Terror".)

    • @stevepig4187
      @stevepig4187 4 роки тому +3

      @@Merennulli *2020
      edit: OOOOOOOOOOH nvm im so stupid.

    • @nono_Hoi4
      @nono_Hoi4 4 роки тому

      biggest and longest rick roll

  • @Charon85Onozuka
    @Charon85Onozuka 5 років тому +23

    I still remember way back when I read 1984 that the final words of the book were some of the most chilling I have ever experienced.

    • @FireCoolerThenYou
      @FireCoolerThenYou 4 місяці тому

      "He had won the war over himself. He loved Big Brother"

  • @blake-81
    @blake-81 5 років тому +143

    As someone raised on (and having fled from) a Communist Totalitarian Dictatorship, reading Orwell's books (which, btw, were banned on my country) always felt terrifyingly close to home; how I could draw parallels between things I knew, experienced myself, and even participated on, and how a lot of events in real life took place just as he said they would take. A lot of what Orwell pictured happens for real (although on a much more low-key level) back there....

    • @lkzhang820
      @lkzhang820 5 років тому +2

      Are you talking about DPRK?

    • @joffreybaratheon4904
      @joffreybaratheon4904 4 роки тому +10

      I was born in the USSR, 1984 was like a Tuesday in my homeland.

    • @fireinthehole1986
      @fireinthehole1986 4 роки тому +3

      Blake 81, which country do you come from anyway?

    • @plankalkulcompiler9468
      @plankalkulcompiler9468 4 роки тому +4

      @@joffreybaratheon4904 yeah, sure. 1984 is the present-day capitalism.

    • @logankrohn1472
      @logankrohn1472 4 роки тому +1

      Georgian Laborer
      Why capitalism?

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican 5 років тому +308

    1984, the year Los Angeles hosted the Summer Olympics for the second time, the Soviet bloc boycotted, and the US won a lot of medals which led to an awful promotion by McDonald's

    • @seatspud
      @seatspud 5 років тому +17

      Notoriously lampooned in the Simpsons.
      Free Krustyburger anyone?

    • @Erika-gn1tv
      @Erika-gn1tv 5 років тому +1

      True horror of the Cold War right there.

    • @androzani
      @androzani 5 років тому

      I'm gonna spit in the 1,000,000th free burger.

    • @Dalinar.Kholin
      @Dalinar.Kholin 5 років тому

      @truthful Sin Are Khalistani separatists true Sikhs? Indian Sikhs don't think so.
      Or are you talking about the Congress-Sikh riots in the aftermath of Indira Gandhi's assassination?

    • @isaiahscobel
      @isaiahscobel 11 місяців тому

      ????????????????
      Dafuq dis do with india?????????

  • @Whitechai
    @Whitechai 2 роки тому +35

    1984 and Animal farm is one of the "higher reading" novels that I actually finished. It was very interesting.

  • @abcdef27669
    @abcdef27669 5 років тому +468

    H.P Lovecraft: "My stories are the scariest in the history of the english language literature! No one can make something terrorizing like me!"
    George Orwell: "Hold my tea. Now you gonna see what is really scary and horrifying..."

    • @Nyghtking
      @Nyghtking 5 років тому +84

      Lovecraft made that which we don't know and can't know horrifying, Orwell made that which we know vary well horrifying.

    • @danielsjohnson
      @danielsjohnson 5 років тому +14

      Jumpscares or disgusting gore can be scary but the even scarier stuff is psychological horror. Stuff that is a scary idea instead of a scary visual thing.

    • @James-ep2bx
      @James-ep2bx 5 років тому +16

      Humanity is an eldrich monster of it's own sometimes, after all which is more frightening that which can't be understood, or the mind capable of wrestling with, and spreading, such a concept?

    • @harbl99
      @harbl99 5 років тому +28

      "You want to hear a scary bedtime story do you? Okay. Here goes. 'People can justify any atrocity their own side commit as a good and necessary thing. The end.' Nighty-night."

    • @cobramcjingleballs
      @cobramcjingleballs 5 років тому +3

      Eh, bad portrayal of Lovecraft who is famous now because only he got other authors to collaborate and expand on his universe and often praised them for their stories.

  • @bigbrother1736
    @bigbrother1736 5 років тому +411

    Hello, I am watching you

    • @everydaygeek8715
      @everydaygeek8715 5 років тому +7

      Hey! I'm in the shower!

    • @GrandGunman
      @GrandGunman 5 років тому +8

      Big Brother does this mean I need to put on pants?

    • @DiracComb.7585
      @DiracComb.7585 5 років тому +4

      Big Brother STRANGER DANGER. STRANGER DANGER!!!

    • @deanspanos8210
      @deanspanos8210 5 років тому +1

      I had a feeling you were watching me. And I have no privacy.

    • @toddharig8142
      @toddharig8142 5 років тому +3

      Oh shit, turns out big brother does exist after all!

  • @silent_ranger8626
    @silent_ranger8626 5 років тому +6

    1984 was a book I was recommended by a teacher and one of the best I’ve read so far

  • @zuckduck4335
    @zuckduck4335 5 років тому +17

    2:36
    Oh shit the totalitarian leadership is headed by Walpole? My god his craftyness spreads throughout time and space!

  • @jkostelo
    @jkostelo 5 років тому +79

    Orwell was a socialist, who ended up hating other socialists.
    He explores this in the road to Wigan Pier.
    I find 1984 to be a warning against extreme political leanings in any direction. It's hard to tell if Oceania was once a fascist country or was socialist, before becoming totalitarian.

    • @chicoravelli5703
      @chicoravelli5703 2 роки тому +5

      Exactly!

    • @Anarcho_Insurrection
      @Anarcho_Insurrection Рік тому +1

      He was an anarchist

    • @guyferrari8124
      @guyferrari8124 Рік тому +3

      @@Anarcho_Insurrection not really, he’s pretty clearly against meaningless war and violent chaos

    • @TheRealNintendoKid
      @TheRealNintendoKid Рік тому +2

      "hard to tell?" I think "ingsoc" makes it pretty fuckin clear.

    • @hjuy4049
      @hjuy4049 Рік тому +2

      ​@@TheRealNintendoKid yeah, believe what the party calls itself to be what it was in reality, very analytic

  • @TheOneTrueAnthemis
    @TheOneTrueAnthemis 5 років тому +59

    Opening with one of the most terrifying quotes in literature ever.
    That's the video essay version of T-posing to establish dominance

    • @kaziislam2785
      @kaziislam2785 5 років тому

      BattleBurrito the clock struck 13

  • @Robin4
    @Robin4 5 років тому +5

    My favorite passage in the book, the love note in the hallway, my God i have never had such a thrill while reading

  • @ItsmeInternetStranger
    @ItsmeInternetStranger 5 років тому +76

    The crux of 1984 I think is social pressure. To be the only one not frothing with anger at the things you're told to be angry about is to be an outcast, in a society where outcasts are ripped to pieces. You say things you don't believe, do things you don't want to do, just to assure everyone else that you're the same as them and to avoid unnecessary trouble. It's when we turn on each other and stop allowing for the reasonable understanding of other thoughts and opinions that we truly fall down the rabbit hole.
    Thankfully, nothing like that is happening today. We totally understand and respect viewpoints different from our own, and never go along with a group just to avoid being targets of that group. Right? ...Right?

    • @PuppetMasteronVHS
      @PuppetMasteronVHS 5 років тому +8

      Left

    • @KZ-xt4hl
      @KZ-xt4hl 5 років тому +14

      @@PuppetMasteronVHS Missing the entire fucking point

    • @thomasduplessis3568
      @thomasduplessis3568 5 років тому +3

      @@KZ-xt4hl nope. One of the few getting the point.

    • @will1603
      @will1603 5 років тому +5

      @@thomasduplessis3568 ahh so you're not just completely discounting another group, representing them as an other, an enemy right? I really think we need to remember that we are just alive, on this planet. Helping each other until we eventually die Haha. We all want the same things really

    • @thomasduplessis3568
      @thomasduplessis3568 5 років тому +10

      @@will1603 No I haven't discounted anyone as an enemy. I'm saying that the left (to a greater degree in frequency and intensity than the right), is trying to work people up. Outrage culture, and cancel culture, for example, has been denounced by a fair majority of the right, while a significant majority of the left embrace these things as necessary. There obviously are exceptions, but generally speaking this is true.
      Social Justice, by definition, vilifies individuals who do not adhere to social norms and ideas. That is what 1984 is all about. Vilifying people, not for breaking actual laws, but for committing "wrongthink".

  • @adriannaranjo4397
    @adriannaranjo4397 5 років тому +82

    Respect to EC for calling out the hatemobs by the blue checkmarks on Twitter

  • @chickensforthechickengod9337
    @chickensforthechickengod9337 5 років тому +7

    One thing to remember is that when at the end of the book the narrator describes the newspeak of ingsoc he uses the past tense.

  • @gelgamath_9903
    @gelgamath_9903 5 років тому +13

    This is the only book I ever read that truly scared me.

  • @tyrreloneal5178
    @tyrreloneal5178 4 роки тому +26

    It's terrifying how relevant this book is today!

  • @hh-ck6ko
    @hh-ck6ko 5 років тому +62

    Oh look, it's just like my political opponent. Certainly not me, i'm the good one. I don't even remember when my group did anything wrong. And even if that did happen, they were traitors undermining us.

    • @androzani
      @androzani 5 років тому +1

      Yea, what he said.

    • @centurion209
      @centurion209 4 роки тому

      Or the Party was different before, we are no longer like that ... there was a switch.

  • @harbl99
    @harbl99 5 років тому +59

    2:40 -- "Britain a totalitarian state with cameras in every home and neighbour primed to turn on neighbour."
    This is just fodder for my 'Orwell was a time traveller' thesis. (and, yes officer, I have a loicense for that opinion.)

  • @MrTomtomtest
    @MrTomtomtest 5 років тому +34

    1984 needs to be put in every school curriculum.

    • @ReddoMao
      @ReddoMao 5 років тому +5

      Needs to be but wont be because academia pushes this kind of indoctrination

    • @WinterWitch01
      @WinterWitch01 5 років тому +5

      With Betsy's DeVos as secretary of education? Not going to happen.

    • @kenyaholloway-reliford8213
      @kenyaholloway-reliford8213 10 місяців тому +1

      I actually read it in 11th grade

  • @sergy4865
    @sergy4865 5 років тому +40

    The scary part to me is that people who support wannabe dictators often compare their opponents to big brother. Projection at its worst.

  • @JustinKoenigSilica
    @JustinKoenigSilica 5 років тому +4

    The most dystopian thing is that I haven't seen ANY OF your uploads in the last 3-5 MONTHS in my subbox

    • @ronelm2000
      @ronelm2000 5 років тому

      click on the noti bell wtf

  • @AzureIV
    @AzureIV 5 років тому +92

    "Beware the alien, the heretic, and the mutant."

    • @ArkadiBolschek
      @ArkadiBolschek 5 років тому +21

      Blessed is the mind too small for doubt.

    • @RyoKasai25
      @RyoKasai25 5 років тому +12

      BURN THE HERETIC, SUFFER NOT THE ALIEN TO LIVE.

    • @ShankarSivarajan
      @ShankarSivarajan 5 років тому +5

      Burn the heretic! Kill the mutant! Purge the unclean!

    • @chickenman77
      @chickenman77 5 років тому +18

      "An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded"

    • @wert1234576
      @wert1234576 4 роки тому +1

      "Listen with your EMPEROR given ears to listen with any thing else is HERASY" -vox speaker

  • @KelsomaticPDX
    @KelsomaticPDX 5 років тому +1

    This is such a fantastic distillation of everything great about 1984. Well done.

  • @theodoty8989
    @theodoty8989 5 років тому +12

    Brilliant end to the video, we are so caught up in fitting in to groups that often we forget to think for ourselves

  • @itaybron
    @itaybron 5 років тому +68

    Good thing our world is nothing like thst - nervous laughter -

    • @RedRabbitEntertainment
      @RedRabbitEntertainment 5 років тому +3

      NSA Agent: Haha, yeah

    • @YAH2121
      @YAH2121 5 років тому +6

      *Meanwhile in China*

    • @VeryProPlayerYesSir1122
      @VeryProPlayerYesSir1122 5 років тому +3

      @@YAH2121 China: "thank god we have 1984 as guide book. Nothing happened in Tiananmen Square 1989. Now, keep kissing my ass to access my market."

    • @cgt3704
      @cgt3704 5 років тому +1

      @@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122 i think you mean north korea. North korea =Oceania

  • @StarFoxHeroSJ
    @StarFoxHeroSJ 5 років тому +162

    The really scary part in regards to modern politics is whatever your political viewpoint, you thought of the other side of the political spectrum while you were listening to this.

    • @cowmaneater1243
      @cowmaneater1243 5 років тому +8

      I was about to say exactly this.

    • @nekomatafuyu
      @nekomatafuyu 5 років тому +19

      Or both sides...

    • @latlatko
      @latlatko 5 років тому +13

      isn't authoritarianism it's own side of the spectrum? or am i misremembering.

    • @c14n_
      @c14n_ 5 років тому +10

      @@latlatko That is one axis of political ideology, yes.

    • @anarchisttechsupport6644
      @anarchisttechsupport6644 5 років тому +21

      @@Antidragon-nl7by here's the thing about radical tolerance: must we tolerate intolerance? Doesn't that just give the unacceptable a home in our own tolerant discourse?
      I was there for Charlottesville when the Fascists descended. AMA.

  • @unitednations774
    @unitednations774 5 років тому +62

    A person who is responsible for every single mistake in history and is the leader of tolitarian states.
    Walpole: Oh, I know him, he’s me.

  • @notlad900
    @notlad900 5 років тому +14

    Blind hate and anger leads to the dark side

    • @pomeranianproductions647
      @pomeranianproductions647 5 років тому

      Hate leads to anger... anger leads to hate... hate leads to suffering... suffering leads to the dark side...

  • @Ashathefree8
    @Ashathefree8 5 років тому

    This series is why Tuesday is my favorite day of the week!

  • @MikaelKKarlsson
    @MikaelKKarlsson 5 років тому +11

    Who else was worried about the surveillance state back in 1984?
    We were sweet summer children.

  • @shawnheatherly
    @shawnheatherly 5 років тому +1

    A wonderful highlight to some of 1984's best aspects.

  • @andrespolo2722
    @andrespolo2722 5 років тому +13

    ¿Why didn't mention the danger of the newspeak?
    TED EF made a video about that.

    • @michaellewis1545
      @michaellewis1545 5 років тому +2

      There is only so much they can cover is video less than 8 minutes long.

  • @LucavlogsandgamingOFFICIAL
    @LucavlogsandgamingOFFICIAL 4 роки тому +1

    Orwell, is honestly a great author, animal farm and 1984 are my favourite sci fi

  • @jozopako
    @jozopako 5 років тому +3

    Finally somebody who understand that 1984 was not anti socialist but anti government.

    • @thesquishedelf1301
      @thesquishedelf1301 5 років тому +3

      *anti-Totalitarian
      I fail to see what’s so libertarian about the book, Orwell and Ayn Rand would hate each other’s political opinions.

  • @charlesbordyiii1154
    @charlesbordyiii1154 5 років тому +1

    In a perfect world, you guys would be the #1 content creators on youtube. Oh well. Y'all are #1 to me.

  • @cookieusa1
    @cookieusa1 5 років тому +6

    Got to be my favorite, or one of, authors out there.

  • @MeganKoumori
    @MeganKoumori 8 місяців тому +2

    One of my projects in university was to choose a book, read it, write an introductory essay that could be pasted in the front, and it would be donated to the library. At first I was going to pick "Animal Farm", but it was 2016 and suddenly "1984" seemed much more relevant.

  • @juancarlosmartinez2876
    @juancarlosmartinez2876 5 років тому +3

    As a Spaniard I cannot put in words how glad I am that someone out there did the research and did not prortray the Spanish Civil War as a simplistic Good vs Evil conflict. Btw, still waiting for Extra History series based on us.

  • @TamaChien
    @TamaChien 5 років тому +3

    I didn't realize that last bit about redirecting hate was so close in modern society until now

  • @awesomehpt8938
    @awesomehpt8938 5 років тому +72

    Under the spreading chestnut tree
    I sold you and you sold me
    There lie they and here lie we
    Under the spreading chestnut tree

  • @alexandreparot5846
    @alexandreparot5846 5 років тому +2

    This episode is double-plus-good

  • @DragonxFlutter
    @DragonxFlutter 5 років тому +3

    Can we please get this as #1 on Trending so everybody can wake up? Because there are tons of people that could use this information.
    >very not subtly glares at the extremists in US politics

    • @Trooper-tr6zi
      @Trooper-tr6zi 5 років тому

      Ya you Yankees need to fix jo s***
      Not to be rude but that is part of the reason why more Texans and Hawaiians support independence there sick of the unreformabal u.s government

    • @underrated1524
      @underrated1524 5 років тому +1

      Props for not falling for the temptation of picking sides. 👍

    • @DragonxFlutter
      @DragonxFlutter 5 років тому

      @Trooper1139
      It’s not incapable of being redeemed, it’s just that extremists refuse to look past their own self interests, and you get ostracized and suppressed even if you’re vaguely related and still disagree with the group agenda.
      @Underrated1
      Just because I don’t fully agree with one side doesn’t mean I’m so blind as to think the other doesn’t have its own faults. The US political system should work on compromise and cooperation for the benefit of the common citizen; not be used to serve the agendas of whichever extremist group is currently in control.

    • @underrated1524
      @underrated1524 5 років тому

      @@DragonxFlutter Of course, of course.

    • @Trooper-tr6zi
      @Trooper-tr6zi 5 років тому

      @@DragonxFlutter but...I'm not disagreeing with you

  • @Lt_Fryes
    @Lt_Fryes 5 років тому

    I've just started reading the book! Thanks so much for posting this!

  • @stevenneiman9789
    @stevenneiman9789 5 років тому +2

    The scary thing is how much of 1984 has actually come about in the real world very easily. All you really need is a society where critically thinking is not systematically taught, and demagoguery becomes the easiest (and eventually the go-to) way to convince people of anything. And once that happens, tyranny will inevitably follow.

  • @Mranshumansinghr
    @Mranshumansinghr 4 роки тому +1

    Watching this in July of 2020 makes me want to read this book.

  • @ryanhowser5908
    @ryanhowser5908 5 років тому +44

    So are we going to mention Orwell and his personal life and not reveal George Orwell was a pen name? His actual name was Eric Blair.

    • @arubinojr5670
      @arubinojr5670 5 років тому +3

      Spoilers.

    • @harbl99
      @harbl99 5 років тому +3

      Ackshually that was his government name. Not his _real_ name.

  • @ajw5032
    @ajw5032 3 роки тому +1

    my favorite guide book

  • @RudyG01
    @RudyG01 5 років тому +13

    The video is superb as always but there is a slight error here. George Orwell mentioned that the Party workers of INGSOC wore blue overalls. That's hasn't been shown here. Though a superb video nonetheless.

  • @Theomorianmms
    @Theomorianmms Рік тому +2

    War is Peace
    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength
    Big brother is always Watching

  • @thevorpalsword
    @thevorpalsword 5 років тому +7

    Can you guys please cover "I have no mouth and I must scream?"

  • @aaronyandell2929
    @aaronyandell2929 5 років тому

    Great episode guys. And very well put. Thank you.

  • @AnOptimisticNihilist
    @AnOptimisticNihilist 3 роки тому +10

    One of my favorite theories about this book is that Oceania, Eurasia, Eastasia and all that never actually happened, but that unfair only exists in Great Britain, with everyone none the wiser.

    • @leozafirov8209
      @leozafirov8209 3 роки тому +3

      My favorite theory is that Oceania, Eurasia, and east Asia exist, but are ruled by all the same people and government, but they mock "fight" each other as to keep the people demoralized, yet believing that by obeying the government they are helping the "war" effort

  • @lukemendes4257
    @lukemendes4257 5 років тому +1

    I could've used this when I had my English Exam!

  • @dercarrot991
    @dercarrot991 5 років тому +5

    You never touch on Winston lover or the entirety of Newspeak, those where pretty damn big parts

  • @TFAltHist
    @TFAltHist 22 дні тому +1

    Some corrections:
    -London is still called London, Airstrip One refers to Britain itself.
    -Oceania, rather than just being Britain, also covers the Americas, southern Africa, Ireland, and, well, Oceania (or so the Party claims, at least).

  • @false8260
    @false8260 5 років тому +20

    I showed the last video in my language arts class

  • @felipejensen2727
    @felipejensen2727 4 роки тому +2

    This video is extremely relevant for this year's elections.

  • @don-jx2xn
    @don-jx2xn 5 років тому +7

    Orwell: writes 1984
    Western nations: Okay cheers for the step by step guidebook
    Orwell: *am I a joke to you*

  • @geostyma
    @geostyma 5 років тому

    I didn't get to read this book in high school, everyone should take the time to read it.

  • @wolfbyte3171
    @wolfbyte3171 5 років тому +43

    Fun fact: The last time 1984 was a bestseller hot trending book was... 2017, after the rise of "alternative facts"

    • @braith117
      @braith117 5 років тому +37

      Also about the time Antifa started attacking everyone they were told were "fascists."

    • @braith117
      @braith117 5 років тому +25

      @Piglor attacking random people who show up to counter-protest you, smash windows, torch cars, and throw bottle bombs after getting beaten in a brawl you started, attacking police and media later on when no counter protesters show up for you to fight, and none of those being one-off events.

    • @ganondorfdragmire7886
      @ganondorfdragmire7886 5 років тому +7

      @@braith117 ANTIFA has stooped pretty low in their excessively self-righteous crusading, but they're still leagues above the neo-nazi groups they combat.

    • @kyleschafer6275
      @kyleschafer6275 5 років тому +30

      @@ganondorfdragmire7886 nah, theyre one im the same, just like the pigs at the end of animal farm.

    • @arubinojr5670
      @arubinojr5670 5 років тому +6

      You folks would be better at this if you hadn't happily let all ability to be subtle be drained out of you. But definitely keep barking.

  • @gabrielgonzalezc1037
    @gabrielgonzalezc1037 5 років тому +23

    Spoiler: Big Brother is actually Walpole.

    • @anarchisttechsupport6644
      @anarchisttechsupport6644 5 років тому

      You misspelled Google, the owner of youtube. Bigger Brother is spelled with 3-letters...

    • @blizzyyt2281
      @blizzyyt2281 5 років тому

      Gabriel González C no it’s skillshare

    • @mansamusa1743
      @mansamusa1743 5 років тому

      Gabriel González C Walpole will lead the uprising against big brother you eastasian spy!

  • @brycevo
    @brycevo 5 років тому +6

    4:52
    I was about to say that. Oh well

    • @tuerculosisgaming6307
      @tuerculosisgaming6307 2 роки тому +1

      "Abandon all hope ye who enter here"
      Lol this is what is writen at the Gates of hell,so true

  • @ОлегКозлов-ю9т
    @ОлегКозлов-ю9т 5 років тому +5

    War is peace
    Freedom is slavery
    Ignorance is strength

  • @fischure8480
    @fischure8480 2 роки тому +5

    As someone who regularly uses Twitter, that last Twitter TOS reference hits a lot more close to home than you'd think (especially in the anime community)

  • @michaelrobinson166
    @michaelrobinson166 5 років тому +1

    I don't care about Extra Sci-fi as a series but I need to watch for the greatest novel

  • @francomartinez1286
    @francomartinez1286 5 років тому +11

    I am waiting for fahrenheit 451 or Asimov´s novels.

    • @TheNinetySecond
      @TheNinetySecond 5 років тому

      They did cover Asimov himself. I don't know if you'll get much more than that before they've done overviews of all the greats.

  • @johnhaynes6761
    @johnhaynes6761 5 років тому

    Learning about dystopia's in English this came out at the right time

  • @conornorris6815
    @conornorris6815 5 років тому +4

    funny how society can actually be seen to follow much of this without actually being directed to do so

  • @um8986
    @um8986 5 років тому

    What a coincidence! This video being uploaded the same day I finished reading the book, really good

  • @TheHouseAlwaysWins20
    @TheHouseAlwaysWins20 Рік тому +3

    Can't piss on my neighbors lawn literally 1984

  • @xenolithus
    @xenolithus 5 років тому

    Tears is rolling down my eyes as I'm typing this because the last paragraph is happening now in my country.

  • @levierina
    @levierina 5 років тому +8

    I wish you spent some time on the NewSpeak
    Maybe another video? :3

  • @rullmourn1142
    @rullmourn1142 5 років тому

    TY, Orwell was an Imperial policeman in Burma for five years. In the Spanish Civil War was badly wounded, shot in the neck.

  • @TheWizardGamez
    @TheWizardGamez Рік тому +3

    authors then: go fight in war, see the brutality of man, lose sanity and inner peace, be called crazy for the rest of your life
    authors now: Yay, i made new york times best seller list!

  • @Its_Trainz_Time
    @Its_Trainz_Time Рік тому

    This and Fahrenheit 451 are so interesting to learn about

  • @QuikVidGuy
    @QuikVidGuy 5 років тому +3

    Thank you for including that Orwell was a socialist and distinguishing between authoritarian and libertarian socialism

  • @robbibob6392
    @robbibob6392 5 років тому +1

    That description of the 2 minuter hate sounds like a metal consert.

  • @Chivi-chivik
    @Chivi-chivik 5 років тому +4

    WHOA I never knew Orwell had an involvement in the Spanish Civil War!! They never mentioned that in school! History class could've been so much cooler if they taught stuff like this! 😠

  • @artofthepossible7329
    @artofthepossible7329 5 років тому +1

    And then you have Kaiserriech. In Oswald Mosely's Totalist faction you have a certain Eric Blair.
    The former was the founder of the British Union of Fascists, the latter writer of this very book.
    The what ifs involving that party are some very broad strokes. Although it would probably make Thatcher look as though she couldn't make her mind up.

  • @notsosilentbobz5797
    @notsosilentbobz5797 5 років тому +5

    Animal farm is one the most horrifying stories, I was forced to read.

  • @eugeneoliveros5814
    @eugeneoliveros5814 5 років тому

    There’s this game called REDCON that combines themes from some dystopian stories, mostly from when one of the antagonists literally say “War is peace” after defending the dystopia like in brave new world