If you're curious, check out our earlier episode on John W. Campbell here, a notable magazine editor in the history of science fiction: ua-cam.com/video/Ctpvd2VvukQ/v-deo.html
How, as an Oregonian, did I not know that Frank Herbert found his inspiration on our coastline! And that he's from Tacoma!? Love the books even more now.
Yeah bois, got our melange appies before we go ferda on some wierding way leg day. Gotta get in that pracky if you're going to roll with muad'dib bois: ferda.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
My favorite part of the whole book(s) is when a chief of the fremen spat on Duke Leto’s conference table. At first it is taken as an insult, but after Duncan Idaho is able to speak. He spits on the table as well, and explains to the duke that it was a sign of respect. Since moisture is so precious, even spitting is something you’d rather not do, and so among the fremen, to present some of your body’s moisture to someone else is a sign of allegiance and respect. Frank Herbert was perhaps the greatest world builder of all time, possibly outclassing even Tolkien.
Dude, everything about the Fremen culture felt so realistic and nuanced. Also, when Paul cries for the man he just killed, and the Fremen are shocked. "He gives water to the dead?"
Dune was actually the first really big Sci-Fi classic that I read. It was back in middle school. I was browsing the library, and noticed a book that shared a name with a Windows DOS game that I had played when I was really young. And what's funny, is that Dune was also the first book where I encountered the concept of dividing a physical book into, uh, ‘sub-books’. Yeah. I was really confused. Book > Books > Chapters > Pages, Paragraphs, and words. Super weird. So I laughed while watching this episode, because it jogged my memory of that confusion, as I learned the cause for the books within books in this case.
im a long time fan of the books and an aspiring writer myself. getting to hear this back story literally brought tears to my eyes. I've read nearly everything he's ever written and to know how hard and long he had to struggle to be published gives me alot of hope. Thank you for this series and im looking forward to the other episodes.
Dune is my ALL TIME favorite Dune book. Being called as one of the best scifi novels is an understatement, it is THE BEST novel. Frank Herbert is a genius, he has a unique way of writing profound paradoxical concepts in clear and simple ways. For example “My father once told me that respect for truth comes close to being the basis for all morality. 'Something cannot emerge from nothing,' he said. This is profound thinking if you understand how unstable 'the truth' can be.”. It makes you consider and think about what is right and what is wrong, that there is no constant virtue and morality is a concept bounded by time and culture. What is taboo now could be virtuous in another age and culture and vise versa. If you're interested in Dune but you're busy with work and life consider getting the audiobook, you can listen to it while commuting back and forth from work.
@@omega4446 "Think you of the fact that a deaf person cannot hear. Then, what deafness may we not all possess? What senses do we lack that we cannot see and cannot hear another world all around us?"
I'm so glad you guys are doing this. I received "Dune" as a gift when I was 9 years old, and while I had enjoyed reading before, it was the first book I ever really, truly loved. It ended up being the main reason I became such an avid reader and consumer of science fiction.
Eh, it was one part of video that sucked. Not only it had ZERO connection with what was being said, it was repeated twice as non-sequitur filler for some reason. I like SW, but it nearly made me hit dislike button.
Personnal fun fact : in my town, in France, near the Atlantic, we have a nice big beach. In the 90's when I was a kid, we went to the beach, and it was flat, from the parcking lot to the sea. They built a nice fence for the dune to form and the sand to accumulate. 20 years later, I took a look to the beach, and what we have now is a bunch of dunes, hills and small pockets of grass and bushes. This beach is our little part of Arrakis. ^^
For folks in the comments saying that they have to read Dune, we got some great news. Over on our twitch channel, we're hosting Book Club every Tuesday. We're in the middle of Dune right now and we have a great mix of people who have read it before, and folks who have never touched it! If you want to read along and discuss the importance of spice, plans, and puns, come join in on Tuesday nights at 5:15pm PST at twitch.tv/ExtraCredits - A
Although I couldn't get into Dune while I was reading it, I still have a lot of respect for its influence. Heck, I love Warframe, and the lore in that game is heavily inspired by the kind of world Frank Herbert wrote.
I tried reading it but it starts horribly for me. I need a character to be invested in and if the super natural is involved at least a basic explanation soon before or after it's involved. I didn't get either trying to read the first Dune book, 10 pages in and it just threw so much meaningless crap names at me that held no meaning while barely giving me anything. I hated it and stopped soon after.
dude stumbled onto this channel and I've watch most of the history stuff and absolutely loved every episode now you do a video about my favorite book of all time! All of you are doing amazing work cant wait to see more
nice to hear about this cause despite being a huge science fiction fan I know very little of Dune and have never read it I think it is finally time for that to change
Goodness, I love Dune. I know many people don't like the movie's but I love them and because of them I got into the book series at a young age. Who can forget the "Litany against fear".
Sterling Lanier also wrote Hiero's Journey which was an influence on both D&D and Gamma World with a passage that basically describes leveling up before, you know...*it existed*.
"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion."
Ah, I needed this! Thanks to the EC crew and Matt is really finding his stride as narrator. As a longtime Dune and FH fan this hit the spot on a frigid February morning. Keep up the good work!
This is it. I've waited and waited. And it is finally here! Getting notifications DO pay off! PS: Jesus are you guys a bunch of teasers, hinting at Dune multiple times in previous episodes.
I need more of this! This is your best cycle so far, covering my beloved books (and im sure very impprtant books for lots of people). And you are doing it in great way!
This is a fascinating introduction to the origin of the Dune series! I am fully engaged and happy to come back to this channel as more videos are released!
More like build an audience. Herbert obviously never stopped marketing and reached the right influencers after tirelessly working on it. Seth Godin would be proud.
The Analog was my introduction to sci-fi through my father's subscription when I was younger. Then his old collection of the Foundation series and Dune.
Been watching this channel for a really long time, since you first released the Punic Wars series, and when I saw you'd be doing sci-fi, this was the one thing I really hoped you'd eventually cover. Cheers, lads n lasses, and all hail to mighty Muad'Dib!
I played it even before I knew about the book Dune. I was young, didnt understand much but I had great time playing it. Good old Westwood game. Fun fact: First Dune RTS game actually competed with the first Warcraft game in popularity and playability. Dune has its place in the gaming history.
For a novel I have only read once, the idea of Dune, the universe of Dune, the aesthetic it has placed on me leaves and indelible mark. As a want-to-be novelist I have always said the two greatest science-fiction influences on me have been Dune and Outlaw Star. Wish me luck I guess...
I am so happy that you uploaded these great additions to extra sci-fi. Diving deeper into the themes of cyberpunk was mentioned a loong time ago, is there hope that we will get to see episodes about neuromancer or snow crash? I would also love to see the great dystopian/utopian novels and their ideas discussed. Anyways thanks a lot for the great content!!
I wasn’t aware that “Dune World” lost (or even was nominated.) The novel “Dune” tied for a Hugo win in 66. Having the same story nominated twice has to be rare.
Exurb1a made a "shit history of Dune" which compelled me to buy the book on Audiobook. It is honestly amazing and worth a listen because it is a great listen while you play sci-fi games
Lanier himself eventually wrote a couple books. He was never super popular or anything, but I have two of his books on my shelf. Hiero's Journey is one of my favorite novels.
If you're curious, check out our earlier episode on John W. Campbell here, a notable magazine editor in the history of science fiction: ua-cam.com/video/Ctpvd2VvukQ/v-deo.html
Extra Credits ok
Notifications gang
BruhItz JustinMcNair Your a day late....
FATHER THE SLEEPER HAS AWAKENED!
3:05 you know "arroyo" is simply "creek" in spanish?
Who would have thought the author of Dune got inspired by dunes.
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Dunes lead to Dune?! Gasp!!
death wish So did dune, fruit trees in the southern caves. The fremen grew their food.
Oh my Dune i never thought of that.
In Oregon, of all places
"He who controls the spice, controls the universe/ world" -16th century Spain and Portugal
Laughs in Dutch
Laltluangliana Sailop Dutch? *Laughs in Britain*
@@Graham226 British got rich by cash crops and taxes from india not by selling spices.
Most spices comes from indonesia, of which colonialised by dutch
"He who commands the sea, has command of everything" -Themistocles, Admiral.
Also Herbert was in the US Navy during WW2, so I can imagine him getting really bored of water....
PavarottiAardvark can relate.
Seemingly not that bored, considering the Pandora Sequence series.
How, as an Oregonian, did I not know that Frank Herbert found his inspiration on our coastline! And that he's from Tacoma!? Love the books even more now.
ditto, live a hour from Florence, seen the dunes many time, never put that together.
Right!? Fellow Oregonian here as well (I even live on the Coast haha), and it makes me love the books even more now
Born and raised in Coos Bay and I had no idea either. I miss those dunes :(
Jesse Harlan I grew up in north bend the dunes are so nice to hike through, it’s cool to see other people from there
Herbert and LeGuin are two of my favorite authors and they were both Oregonians. There's something in the water up there I'm sure.
The spice must flow bois
HE WHO CONTROLS THE SPICE CONTROLS THE UNIVERSE!
All I'm asking for is a small suitcase of Spice.
Well, Old Spice do?
Yeah bois, got our melange appies before we go ferda on some wierding way leg day. Gotta get in that pracky if you're going to roll with muad'dib bois: ferda.
He who can destroy a Pumpkin Spice Chai, controls a Pumpkin Spice Chai
Walk without rhythm and you won't attract the worms.
Don't wear a Holtzman shield either. It'll create the same problem.
Activate Christopher Walken dance mode.
Do a barrel roll?
Listen to the sound of my voice
So...get drunk?
I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain
“Arrakis is not my destination.” She said.
“Arrakis is the destination of everyone” he replied.
My favorite part of the whole book(s) is when a chief of the fremen spat on Duke Leto’s conference table. At first it is taken as an insult, but after Duncan Idaho is able to speak. He spits on the table as well, and explains to the duke that it was a sign of respect. Since moisture is so precious, even spitting is something you’d rather not do, and so among the fremen, to present some of your body’s moisture to someone else is a sign of allegiance and respect. Frank Herbert was perhaps the greatest world builder of all time, possibly outclassing even Tolkien.
Dude, everything about the Fremen culture felt so realistic and nuanced. Also, when Paul cries for the man he just killed, and the Fremen are shocked. "He gives water to the dead?"
Damn maybe I should have read the book before I watched the new movie.
@@lombardo141 This scene was in the movie too tho
Hahahaha not even close to Tolkien, shut up.
Sterling Lanier: A true unsung hero of scifi fandom!
Indeed what a humble dude.
I wonder if the publisher feels bad about firing him given the novel's place in literature today?
Dune was actually the first really big Sci-Fi classic that I read. It was back in middle school. I was browsing the library, and noticed a book that shared a name with a Windows DOS game that I had played when I was really young.
And what's funny, is that Dune was also the first book where I encountered the concept of dividing a physical book into, uh, ‘sub-books’. Yeah. I was really confused. Book > Books > Chapters > Pages, Paragraphs, and words. Super weird. So I laughed while watching this episode, because it jogged my memory of that confusion, as I learned the cause for the books within books in this case.
im a long time fan of the books and an aspiring writer myself. getting to hear this back story literally brought tears to my eyes. I've read nearly everything he's ever written and to know how hard and long he had to struggle to be published gives me alot of hope. Thank you for this series and im looking forward to the other episodes.
Same. Hearing that freaking DUNE was rejected constantly really drives the point home.
Dune is my ALL TIME favorite Dune book. Being called as one of the best scifi novels is an understatement, it is THE BEST novel. Frank Herbert is a genius, he has a unique way of writing profound paradoxical concepts in clear and simple ways.
For example “My father once told me that respect for truth comes close to being the basis for all morality. 'Something cannot emerge from nothing,' he said. This is profound thinking if you understand how unstable 'the truth' can be.”.
It makes you consider and think about what is right and what is wrong, that there is no constant virtue and morality is a concept bounded by time and culture. What is taboo now could be virtuous in another age and culture and vise versa. If you're interested in Dune but you're busy with work and life consider getting the audiobook, you can listen to it while commuting back and forth from work.
Fun Fact: Frank Herbert once denied Iron Maiden from using “Dune” as a song title.
Waffles The Wookie that would have been pretty damn cool
Interesting
That can't be right. Copyright laws explicitely state you can't copyright a title.
@@lisaenglert3202 If you want to hear it, it's called "To Tame A Land"
To tame a land from Piece of Mind i presume?
"Continue your training, and keep trusting Yueh implicitly." lol
(laughs awkwardly)
@@omega4446 agreed
@@omega4446 "Think you of the fact that a deaf person cannot hear. Then, what deafness may we not all possess? What senses do we lack that we cannot see and cannot hear another world all around us?"
Do you think that he does not know what he has won?
I love Yueh,,,
"He who controls the spice controls the universe!"
What? Someone was going to say it sooner or later.
I'm so glad you guys are doing this. I received "Dune" as a gift when I was 9 years old, and while I had enjoyed reading before, it was the first book I ever really, truly loved. It ended up being the main reason I became such an avid reader and consumer of science fiction.
God created Arrakis to train the faithful.
You mean the southern Oregon Coast. Lol
“And that day dawned when Arrakis lay at the hub of the universe with the wheel poised to spin.” -Princess Irulan
Can we just appreciate the prequel meme in this? Thanks for the laugh Extra Credits.
You mean the Golden Path at 2:27 ?
Eh, it was one part of video that sucked. Not only it had ZERO connection with what was being said, it was repeated twice as non-sequitur filler for some reason. I like SW, but it nearly made me hit dislike button.
"I hate sand. It's coarse and rough, and it gets everywhere."
Worst pick-up line ever
@@KuK137 Dune was a major inspiration for George Lucas. It was one of the reasons there is the planet Tatooine.
Personnal fun fact : in my town, in France, near the Atlantic, we have a nice big beach. In the 90's when I was a kid, we went to the beach, and it was flat, from the parcking lot to the sea. They built a nice fence for the dune to form and the sand to accumulate. 20 years later, I took a look to the beach, and what we have now is a bunch of dunes, hills and small pockets of grass and bushes. This beach is our little part of Arrakis. ^^
For folks in the comments saying that they have to read Dune, we got some great news. Over on our twitch channel, we're hosting Book Club every Tuesday. We're in the middle of Dune right now and we have a great mix of people who have read it before, and folks who have never touched it! If you want to read along and discuss the importance of spice, plans, and puns, come join in on Tuesday nights at 5:15pm PST at twitch.tv/ExtraCredits - A
Dune is an amazing piece of work that was extremely underrated at its birth
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
@@Gigas0101 i actually do the same...
I love dune so much. Read it 16 times and I still get new meaning from it every time
Although I couldn't get into Dune while I was reading it, I still have a lot of respect for its influence. Heck, I love Warframe, and the lore in that game is heavily inspired by the kind of world Frank Herbert wrote.
The way frank looked at the Dunes, reminds me of how George would get inspiration for ASOIF by standing on Hadrian's Wall.
2:39 TIL the "I don't like sand" line can be phrased as a haiku.
Dune: *exists*
40k: IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE
This is really good timing because I started reading Dune last week.
Maye you want to stay away, then, lest there be unmarked spoilers?
Me too! XD
Dune, Arrakis, Desert Planet.
Source of the Geriatrics Spice Melange
one of the truly Great Space Operas been waiting for this for a long time😎
I legit read that as "Great Spice Operas"
Not wrong
@@sophiatalksmusic3588 Ha
Dune is amazing, period.
book , movies and card game :)
I tried reading it but it starts horribly for me. I need a character to be invested in and if the super natural is involved at least a basic explanation soon before or after it's involved.
I didn't get either trying to read the first Dune book, 10 pages in and it just threw so much meaningless crap names at me that held no meaning while barely giving me anything. I hated it and stopped soon after.
@@mme.veronica735 Agreed. I managed to read the whole thing but by the end of it I still didn't understand what the Bene Gesserit were doing and why.
Zonofv 1 yeah same
halfrocanadian v why?
dude stumbled onto this channel and I've watch most of the history stuff and absolutely loved every episode now you do a video about my favorite book of all time! All of you are doing amazing work cant wait to see more
YES! WE CAN'T WAIT FOR VILLENEUVE'S "DUNE"!
nice to hear about this cause despite being a huge science fiction fan I know very little of Dune and have never read it I think it is finally time for that to change
As someone who lives on the Oregon Coast, I can attest to the haunting beauty of the dunes.
This is the best Sci fi book period. So many gems from this story, the spice must flow and of course the litany gains fear
I have waited for this episode since this series started!
Goodness, I love Dune. I know many people don't like the movie's but I love them and because of them I got into the book series at a young age. Who can forget the "Litany against fear".
The Saga of Dune is far from over.
Dune is so amazing. It blew my mind 40 years after it's time, and will probably continue to do so for others in decades to come
What do you mean we don’t know if they ever got to meet!?!? How could they not? You’re killing me Extra. Love these videos! Thank you!
Long Live
The Fighters
of Muad'dib
As one of my favorite books of all time, Im extremely excited for your series on Dune!!
So glad this video was made. I read the novels back when i was 16 yrs old in 1996. I was fscinated by the universe Frank H. created.
Sterling Lanier also wrote Hiero's Journey which was an influence on both D&D and Gamma World with a passage that basically describes leveling up before, you know...*it existed*.
dune got the hugo award but it tied with "this immortal" by roger zelazny and didn't lose to "here gather the stars" by clifford d simak.
"what could go wrong?"
When the face of the Traitor is finally revealed
The fate of the Atreides will already be sealed... LOL
Oh, yeah. That.
The spice, and the episodes, must flow! Well done, one of my favorite channels!
Muab Dib.
Fear is the mind killer.
One is my favorite character.
The other is my mantra during stressful moments.
Thank you, Frank Herbert.
I love this series so much! Can't wait to hear what you have to say about it
"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion."
There are no words for how much I absolutely adore Dune (and its sequels)
One of the greatest narratives of the 20th Century.
Ah, I needed this! Thanks to the EC crew and Matt is really finding his stride as narrator. As a longtime Dune and FH fan this hit the spot on a frigid February morning. Keep up the good work!
Favorite book of all time.
I spit on your comment fremen style :)
Same.
agreed
This is it. I've waited and waited. And it is finally here! Getting notifications DO pay off!
PS: Jesus are you guys a bunch of teasers, hinting at Dune multiple times in previous episodes.
Been looking forward to these dune videos
2:30 Perfect. Thank you Extra Credits.
I heard Dune and came as fast as I could.
TMI, Dude
Go to behind the dune for that
I didn't even have to try I heard dune and immediately came
I'm sure Slaanesh was pleased.
WWSD... What Would Stilgar Do
Some sort of lightweight book series?
Dodge rivalry duels with his fellow tribesmen?
I need more of this! This is your best cycle so far, covering my beloved books (and im sure very impprtant books for lots of people). And you are doing it in great way!
It's so great to learn more about this classic series! Can't wait for more
I'm glad you post. Your videos are well made, and filled to the brim with knowledge. Thank you for this service, I hope to be donating shortly. *MUAH*
"He who controls the spice! Controls the Universe!"
Also what went wrong?
The same thing it always does. Greed
I mean prequels
Or god emperor
Having read dune, I'm glad you all made this.
This is a fascinating introduction to the origin of the Dune series!
I am fully engaged and happy to come back to this channel as more videos are released!
"Yueh, Yueh, Yueh! A million deaths for Yueh!"
FINALLY!!! BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SINCE YOU STARTED THIS SERIES!!!
You did it! May Shai'Hulud bless your water!
The core message here is that if your work is good enough, it will get there, even if the experts don't agree.
More like build an audience. Herbert obviously never stopped marketing and reached the right influencers after tirelessly working on it. Seth Godin would be proud.
The Analog was my introduction to sci-fi through my father's subscription when I was younger. Then his old collection of the Foundation series and Dune.
I've only ever read the first Dune book, but I'm glad I did. It was really, really good.
You should read the other five, they are good too. 😊
My favorite book series along with Pat Rothfuss Kingkiller Chronicles
Been watching this channel for a really long time, since you first released the Punic Wars series, and when I saw you'd be doing sci-fi, this was the one thing I really hoped you'd eventually cover. Cheers, lads n lasses, and all hail to mighty Muad'Dib!
My favorite part of Dune is when Paul finally reunites with Gurney and institutes the new changes in Fremen society
I've been waiting a very long time for this!
THE SPICE MUST FLOW
Bruh were are my dune 2000 players I played when was very young but I loved it
I played it even before I knew about the book Dune. I was young, didnt understand much but I had great time playing it. Good old Westwood game.
Fun fact:
First Dune RTS game actually competed with the first Warcraft game in popularity and playability.
Dune has its place in the gaming history.
yeaaa mass tanks lez go
@@LocalHeretic-ck1kd same
Oh yeah, Dune 2000 is actually pretty good. Not as good as Dune 2, but it had some fun missions.
One of the greatest Sci-fi novels i've read, now i just need the sequels.
Absolutely fantastic content. I can't believe they're doing Dune! I love Extra Credits so much.
For a novel I have only read once, the idea of Dune, the universe of Dune, the aesthetic it has placed on me leaves and indelible mark. As a want-to-be novelist I have always said the two greatest science-fiction influences on me have been Dune and Outlaw Star. Wish me luck I guess...
Ok, this is epic
i have waited so long for this...
I think I speak for almost everyone when I say that we are super excited for this
I am so happy that you uploaded these great additions to extra sci-fi. Diving deeper into the themes of cyberpunk was mentioned a loong time ago, is there hope that we will get to see episodes about neuromancer or snow crash? I would also love to see the great dystopian/utopian novels and their ideas discussed. Anyways thanks a lot for the great content!!
What an amazing video
So many great insights.
I wasn’t aware that “Dune World” lost (or even was nominated.) The novel “Dune” tied for a Hugo win in 66. Having the same story nominated twice has to be rare.
You should make an Extra Biology Series!
I don't have word for how much I love dune.
Exurb1a made a "shit history of Dune" which compelled me to buy the book on Audiobook.
It is honestly amazing and worth a listen because it is a great listen while you play sci-fi games
Kul Wahad! The voice from the outer world!
Lanier himself eventually wrote a couple books. He was never super popular or anything, but I have two of his books on my shelf. Hiero's Journey is one of my favorite novels.
I can’t wait for the denis villeneuve adaptation, one of my favourite directors ever
Didn't know he'd had to struggle so much, it's such a beautiful body of work... Hope Villeneuve does it justice
I bought this novel because of this video and so far it's not bad.
Your caricature of Herbert is pretty much my mind’s eye image of Liet Kynes.
Really looking forward to this series! Would love to see you do a series on the Discworld by Sir Terry Pratchett