Super Mario 64 (16 Star) TAS Vs Human World Record
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2023
- This Video Compares the best TAS run and the best Human run of Mario 64 16 Star
Watch the original videos:
TAS: • [TAS] "16 Stars SBLJle...
Human: • [WORLD RECORD] Super M...
Official Speedrun leaderboard for this category: www.speedrun.com/sm64?h=16_St...
Watch this amazing video breaking down the human world record: • The Perfect Mario Spee... - Ігри
![[TAS] "16 Stars SBLJless" in 12:19.92 (read desc.)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/UD6iQwrm-Y4/mqdefault.jpg)
![[TAS] "16 Stars SBLJless" in 12:19.92 (read desc.)](/img/tr.png)
I was expecting the same route when I first started watching. Even the difference in the first 30 seconds is amazing.
I'd really like to see the actual button presses these two are making. A lot of world record explained videos talk about strats that aren't humanly viable, but it's hard to really understand what that means for casual observers like myself.
i know it’s very nice when speedrunners put their buttons as an overlay and i think TAS makers should do it too it would look very satisfying
Other than the obvious TAS only strats you can see here (insane BLJs) some may not look that difficult but include several frame perfect inputs and provide very small time saves, even with an input display it may not be that obvious to the eye, but speed runners will be able to tell you that it's not worth trying.
to add to this. Imagine a trick where the position of the analog stick is in frame 1 on "up", and has to be on "down" in frame 2. it's not physically possible for a human to do this, because the movement from up to down would take longer than one frame. for TAS it is
@@Sprudelpudel It is actually possible in some cases, or at least restricted versions are. For example someone's hit carpetless unbuffered which requires being fully "up" on frame 1 and fully "right" on frame 2, and many people seem to think up to down is actually easier than up to right.
@@Sprudelpudel Arent gainers in MM down to up in 1 frame? Or is it slightly more lenient?
Suigi: I stand as the world record holder in every category except one.
TAS 9 parallel universes ahead of him: am I a joke to you?
the 13 minutes was worth the wait for a reaction like that!
i Know it’s such a great reaction
wouldnt it be better to compare it with the 16 star human theory tas
Much
That human is so slow and starts to cry for no reason what a baby
u do it
@@daevidpp445 just beat that time just now let's go!
Terminator: ai will destroy the world
Real life: ai will destroy speedrun leaderboards
It’s not an ai it’s a human who makes the inputs it’s just a computer that simulates it
@@jayure1346 Meh same difference
@@KatTheOneAndOnlyto be more precise, it’s a human who creates the input frame by frame and a computer plays it back
@@ilikecreeper331 I have dumb logic but to me anything that does what a human does is considered an ai (besides living organisms lol)
Without all the BLJs, the actual gameplay is pretty damn close.
It's an excellent record!
I just don't understand one thing, isn't it easier to catch the star that the rabbit leaves? And talk to the 2 Toads?
You need 15 stars to spawn the rabbit. Then the ddd sub star to get access to the 2nd Bowser level.
All right. Now I understand how it works. I am grateful @@zinsch5588
Also if you collect the rabbit star the rabbit disappears and you can’t clip through the brown door or the 30 star door.
Wish the tas did the same route lol
it's crazy that it is only 2 minutes ahead of a real person
What’s the point of the moat/invisibility cap segment in the TAS?
In short you enter the moat door without draining the water, meaning you get access to basement without needing to beat bowser 1
Could you do a comparison between wr and community sum of best? Also you should prob compare each segment with cuts in between, this isnt really a comparison its more like watching to videos at the same time
i could probably do that, is there a place to find all the community best times, i would love to make that video it sounds like a great idea i just don’t know where to find communinty bests
@@Plukie also please actually compare the stars side by side, i would do it but i genuinely dont have the editing skills
the issue is that the wr also beat the wr time for every segment I think
@El0oWasTaken community sum of best: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yDZGIVXlcSR8ziYRUeSOmXcXKP6tOTi9_25s0X5-p2M/edit?usp=drivesdk
@@LUNAHT3bruh what
unless its the same route and you keep pausing one so that each room entry lines up, then this was kinda hard and pointless to watch. easy content i guess
Its interesting that they take so different routes
The computer plays like swine.
@@robertwegner8962damn wtf it do to you
@@1bum Well I am just stating that the computer plays like swine. It is nasty.
Its basically just that the TAS is able to skip the first key to get to the basement using some truly ludicrous strats
Skipping the first key entirely is faster than fighting the first bowser, and Blast to the Stone Pillar is faster than Dark World reds.
at that point that's not a tool "assisted" speedrun, that's a tool RAN speedrun😭😭
Is there a human-viable TAS anywhere?
That's called rta
Human theory 16 star tas is on circumark's channel
@@superdejan64No? Rta means non-Tas I thought
@@abcdefzhij omfg that's the point, a human viable tas would not be a tas, the entire point of a tas is "tool assisted speedrun"
@@superdejan64 …No? OP asked about a TAS that showcases the fastest possible time that a human could achieve.
I feel like 16 star without bowser 1 sort of defeats the purpose of the category.
The purpose of the category is to spawn MIPS to pass the 30 star door, because for a long time people knew no other way of doing so.
I feel the same way. Technically the TAS didn't break any rules since the only 16 star restrictions are:
- SBLJ is banned
- Any method to skip the 30 star door other than Mips clipping is banned
Since the TAS did do Mips clip and didn't use SBLJ (which is not even clearly defined from what I can tell), it's considered a valid 16 star run, but honestly creating a 16 star TAS in the first place seems pretty pointless to me with all the advancements in the TAS community like 1 key and such.
A human theory 16 star TAS would've been a much better fit here in my opinion.
@Megaforcer yea I specifically made the TAS so it would fit the RTA rules, but anything else not specific is fair game. So I can do moat door skip and plenty of other TAS-only things. Otherwise this would just be a "human theory" TAS, which i'm not too interested in making
@@Crackhex I guess here's the argument I'm making.
Back in the day, any% used to be 70 star. But then we found out how to do the BLJ stair skips, so now any% changed to 30 star. And we created a new category "70 star", to preserve that style of race.
Then we found out how to do Mips skip, and any% changed from 30 star to 16 star. And again we created a new category called 30 star, to preserve that style of race.
Then we found out how to do the side stair skip, and lowered any% further. etc. etc.
I'm saying that anytime any% gets updated with a new skip, the "old category" gets preserved and called "x star". But when you discover a new skip that breaks 16 star, I would argue that (in some instances) you would break the category down even further. It would be "16 star", and "16 star, no bowser 1 skip".
@@ralphinoful that's TAS arbitrary since it's not possible to do RTA
didn't suigi get the wr in every segment in this run?
almoast every one except 120 star i think
no he got 0 segment records
Happy for you, but tbh, this isn’t a very helpful video. Pretty much every similar one I’ve seen at least lined up the segments. This is more like just watching two videos at once than it is a proper comparison. Thanks for linking the originals though, I appreciate that.
exactly. stopped watching this after like 30seconds because it got hard and pointless
Why did they both use the Japanese version?
I think it's just shorter dialogue boxes
@@agustinpugliese1715 Ok. I see
@@agustinpugliese1715 Interestingly the NA version seems faster for 70 star? And it looks like either for 0 star.
Specifically because its faster in the intro, and mips is faster by 15%. On average, US textboxes scroll a few frames faster than jp, so in 120 it adds up.
What/who is TAS?
tec artificial sys.
Yeah no offence to Suigi, but you're bad, get good buddy.
😅😅
ahahaahah
This isn’t even the WR 😂 I did 16 star in 9:44 😂😂pathetic
proof
I trust him