No, speed most certainly is not the only reason. 26% of players have a higher sprint speed than Ohtani, yet he’s second in steals. The fact that he gets to the base quickly doesn’t prove it’s just that he runs faster than other players. That still involves getting a good jump and reading when you are able to run.
I think Shohei being a pitcher helped him decipher what the other pitchers are going to do next pitch. It takes a lot of studying. Just like the past greats like Kobe, Brady and others, they are students of the game. Studying and learning of the games never stop with those guys.
i'd argue "being a pitcher" plays almost no role in ohtani's ability to steal bases. i doubt it hurts in any way, but shohei isn't an above-average to great base-stealer cuz he's been a pitcher. he's actually a really solid base-stealer and easily one of the most talented ball players any of us have ever seen. and the kobe comparison is funny. like, I get it. he's a GOAT and kobe is a GOAT, but we can think of a ton of actual baseball players who are also really solid base-stealers that work a bit better for that metaphor. plus FK your stupid AI.
@@markbaileycimarron-memoria3446 reading pitches to steal off of is apart of baserunning. You're more likely to swipe second off a changeup rather than a 4-seam fastball.
How did the forefathers of baseball even know to put the bases at 90 feet? I doubt they had any statistics of how fast runners are or will be in the future, how fast pitchers throw, catcher throw downs, etc. Yet, it’s always so close. Amazing if you think about it.
Something similar is the 3 point arc in basketball. Basically chosen at random many years ago but analysis of deep 2s and 3s show that it rly is at the perfect depth where it is
They were smarter than you think. They knew the average speed of good runners. Knew the average of good pitchers, and catchers throws. They did some basic trajectories and trigonometry to come to 90ft. You realize these men built buildings still standing 100 years ago from those same mathematics. Yet we cannot figure out basic math today. The cognitive decline is real.
Your analysis on Ohtani's base stealing was interesting but I still have some questions. If you look on Baseball savant for who are the fastest players, Ohtani is only 157th in MLB in sprint speed. Bobby Witt Jr. is No. 1 by that metric, but he's only had a 70% success rate stealing bases this year, whereas Ohtani has been successful 92% of the time. Can you do one of those side by side things where you synch up the videos to show who is actually faster, or how exactly he does it. Does he get a better jump or time it better? What's going on?
The one thing I notice about Ohtani is he almost always runs at the exact right time. Like he times up the pitchers wind up perfectly. I think steal timing matters almost as much as sprint speed. No hard stats to back this up though all eye test lol
Yes, like he shows in this video, Shohei is timing pitchers perfectly - which is by far the most important part of stealing bases, *if* you have the speed in the first place (as no matter how well you time the pitcher up, if you're a bottom half speedster you aren't coming in safe unless the pitcher is incredibly slow to the plate and the catcher has a bad arm as well)
That's one of those stats that just sounds wrong. Not saying it is, but 157th? Forget the stolen bases, just seeing him run around the bases for doubles and triples gives you an idea that he is extremely fast, and he has been measured at 157th? I think Baseball Savant need to check their data or Ohtani has some time warping field around him that make everyone slower instead of him faster. That aside, stealing bases has been always more an art than a brute force thing. You need speed, of course, but just being fast doesn't make you a good stealer. It's all about the moment you start running. If you can time the pitcher just right you can steal bases even without blazing speed, of you can't is very hard even with it. Knowing the pitcher is also a factor. Is not the same to run on prime Justin Verlander throwing fastball after fastball at 97mph that on a slower pitcher who mainly throws breaking balls.
Another possible piece of data affecting this. Mookie returns to the lineup on Aug. 13. Shohei stole 5 bases in August before Mookie returned, and 10 in the rest of August.
@@baosommurr4566 considering the lineup they had when mookie and freedie were out and bunch of aa or .230 guys i think he understood he had to do more so he did he is very smart he has a big brain as well
Yeah, it's more because Mookie happened to come back and is batting second while Shohei is on this stealing spree than his preferences depending on who is batting behind him.
The Twins and the White Sox each only having one double steal on the season, and them coming against each other, is the most baseball stat ever and I love it.
So you’re telling me Shohei is studying pitchers and to a point where he can have the highest percentage chance of stealing bases from them in real-time--and applying it? All the while keeping into consideration who he has batting before and after him to put his team in the best position to bring him home? All the while re-habbing his arm because he’s actually a pitcher and not a hitter/base runner to begin with? 👏 mvp 👏
Is he a pitcher who also hits, or a hitter who also pitches? 😆 MVP either way!! (I think he's always been a 2-way player. He's both, which is what makes him special.) Most pitchers rehabbing from elbow surgery can't do anything for their team until their arm heals. It's amazing to me, but we see it. 🤩
Jimmy, Lopez was not out in that tag attempt. Raleigh had the ball in his bare hand when he went for the swipe tag. If you watch it close you can see he doesn't make a transfer after the swipe to throw to first.
28:30 It looks like the ball lands in front of the plate with backspin, spins back onto the plate (look for the little hop). The catcher grabs it pretty much right in the middle of the plate (before it goes foul).
Dude I just noticed how much of Shohe how much he uses his brain to calculate the pitchers. Bro this dude is so in tune with baseball in the states. Bro if more baseball players treated baseball like he does, baseball would be way better astelectly than it is, it would be better.
In terms of the batter up data, it's more coinciding with the months and batting position. When Mookie went down, Ohtani moved into the leadoff spot, and as the season has progressed he's been running more and when Mookie came back, he stayed in the 1 and they put Mookie in the 2...
The Mookie AB numbers are skewed because before Mookie went on the IL, he batted lead off and Ohtani batted 2nd (Freddie and Smith after them). But when Mookie came back, which correlates with Ohtani stealing more, Mookie has batted behind Ohtani in the order.
hey jimmy/whomever, out of curiosity, where is this data from? i've been doing some hobby research into deep data analysis for the mlb, and i've been using retrosheet which is great but doesn't have current season information, and the information it does have isn't this specific (i.e. catcher pop time). is the data publicly available?
Great analysis on Ohtani. But one other key factor is missing. What is the catchers pop time. Catcher’s over 1.7 seconds are slow. The idea for fast runners, pitcher is 1.5 + catcher is 1.7+ that is 3.1+ seconds. If you have a 13’ lead plus 18” first base, 9” second base (those that know how the field is laid out, that is 75’ in 3.1+ seconds. Most good runners can run a 75’ under 3.1 seconds. To translate to a 40 yards that is 4.96 second. So don’t need blazing speed to be a great base stealer.
Totally irrelevant to finding out Shohei's secrets but would have been very interesting to see an excel column on if his stolen base mattered (did advancing help him score). Also a stat column for when he wouldn't even try to steal. Guessing those are all pitchers below 1.5 seconds to the plate
The main key is that he has talented batters behind his back. With Mookie and Freddie as the most effective hitters in the line up. Also the bottom of the line are just doing fine to boost the winning rate. So, the team help him, and he help the team. I would say a great teamwork, in contrast with...you know, his last team. Lol Or yeah maybe you can ask Mensa to test Shohei IQ. He definitely a genius.
You need a better analysis. It's not that he likes to steal when Mookie is up compared to Freddie. It's got more to do with the batting order. He started stealing much more after Mookie injured his wrist, that's when he was in the 1st in the order. He is just playing his role as the 1st batter.
Great stuff. Ohtani steals a lot before Betts is because that was the reason (to play him at leadoff). Apparently, Ohtani felt that he needs to do extra to be leadoff (because Betts was great). And it is not surprising his SB ramp up drastically in June/July. He probably did not feel the need/urgency to SB when batting 2nd ... Can one imagine if Dodgers realized how successful Ohtani can be on SB from the beginning of the season?!? His SB may be more like de la cruz's ... unfortunately, he will start pitching next year and I don't think Dodgers will let him SB this much.
Not sure the 'count' graph is all that interesting. Every at bat is going to have a first pitch. A lot of at bats are going to have second pitches. And third pitches. Less at bats are going to get to 2-2 or 3-2. So it would make sense for more steals to happen on the counts that are most frequent. I think to make that chart interesting, we'd need to see something like how many at-bats got to those counts with second/third open while Ohtani was on base regardless of stealing. If would need to be displayed as a proportion rather than a 'raw' count. When measuring by outs: Makes sense to be a little more aggressive on two outs. Likewise, would it be 'safer' to steal on two outs? I would need someone who knows how the MLB works to jump in here. But I would assume that with two outs, the pitcher/catcher are probably more focused on getting the batter out than the runner at that point, no? Obvious its not quite "defensive indifference" but would a catcher be more willing to not throw on a close play in order to prevent a more disastrous error?
Jomboy Math Media - There's an obvious threshold with context. A) He doesn't take the bat out of the batter's hands B) He doesn't steal if the base can be given to him for free i.e. he doesn't steal if the walk is imminent No steals on 2-0 or 3-0 or 3-1 C) He also steals as a way to help the batter get favorable pitches. D) he's protected by the talent who follows him. [Murders row] if they were low batting averages, the pitcher doesn't care about the count. E) does the last run of steals correspond to his buddy Mookie getting back from injury? Do the maths Mookster got back in August approx 23 games ago
The Mookie/Freddie split is probably because he has started batting ahead of Mookie recently as his SBAs have taken off. His opportunities with Freddie batting probably mostly came in the early months before he got going.
As far as attempting steals with Betts at the plate, that's a meaningless stat. Betts came off injury near the time that Ohtani started his push for 50-50.
teams already have this info man. unless you're the white sox or A's or Rockies that is. but they aren't going to be able to get him out regardless, let's be real
if Shohei is going to be pitching again, then this is his one shot at this. I just wonder what inspired it? Being second in MLB in homers and steals is impressive.
what. him pitching won't make it so that he stops hitting and stealing. i'm assuming this is AI because you can't be that dumb about baseball watching this video surely
are you a child. being a fan of a team doesn't mean you can't appreciate greatness on other teams. especially if they aren't even in your same league. grow up my guy
Shohei is the greatest ball player to ever live and I’m not even a Shohei fan but this judge is the best needs to stop, he’s just another mark mcguire/DH
Jim do you know if soto weas suffering from a foot injury or toe injury. Looks like he may have been hesitant to make contact on any running down in the zone trying not to foul anything off into his feet
I love it when Jim says "so we did a little digging" and then pulls up a comically extensive spreadsheet.
That's my kind of data guy. I'm sure Shohei would want that spreadsheet.
Hehehe lol
A spreadsheet that he did not make himself
@@MMuraseofSandvichYeah, they should send it to him!
@@moejuggler6033 I'm sure he has made it already.
He's just fast. So many times he's already on 2nd before the ball passes the mound.
He feels faster these days tbh.
No, speed most certainly is not the only reason. 26% of players have a higher sprint speed than Ohtani, yet he’s second in steals.
The fact that he gets to the base quickly doesn’t prove it’s just that he runs faster than other players. That still involves getting a good jump and reading when you are able to run.
I think Shohei being a pitcher helped him decipher what the other pitchers are going to do next pitch. It takes a lot of studying. Just like the past greats like Kobe, Brady and others, they are students of the game. Studying and learning of the games never stop with those guys.
Fax
True, as a pioneer of TWP, Shohei is seeing and knowing things beyond us for sure. I want him to write a book on it when he retires.
i'd argue "being a pitcher" plays almost no role in ohtani's ability to steal bases. i doubt it hurts in any way, but shohei isn't an above-average to great base-stealer cuz he's been a pitcher. he's actually a really solid base-stealer and easily one of the most talented ball players any of us have ever seen. and the kobe comparison is funny. like, I get it. he's a GOAT and kobe is a GOAT, but we can think of a ton of actual baseball players who are also really solid base-stealers that work a bit better for that metaphor. plus FK your stupid AI.
@@devonesq.7533 lol no dude.
@@markbaileycimarron-memoria3446 reading pitches to steal off of is apart of baserunning. You're more likely to swipe second off a changeup rather than a 4-seam fastball.
Ohtani's potential 50/50 season even being a possibility is one of the coolest things I've ever seen in baseball.
How did the forefathers of baseball even know to put the bases at 90 feet? I doubt they had any statistics of how fast runners are or will be in the future, how fast pitchers throw, catcher throw downs, etc.
Yet, it’s always so close. Amazing if you think about it.
Something similar is the 3 point arc in basketball. Basically chosen at random many years ago but analysis of deep 2s and 3s show that it rly is at the perfect depth where it is
I think about this once or twice a month, every month, every year.
They were smarter than you think. They knew the average speed of good runners. Knew the average of good pitchers, and catchers throws. They did some basic trajectories and trigonometry to come to 90ft. You realize these men built buildings still standing 100 years ago from those same mathematics. Yet we cannot figure out basic math today. The cognitive decline is real.
@@wastanley734 mf whos we? Lmao maybe YOU cant figure out basic math lmaoooo
I need the sales team to find a coffee brand to sponsor these episodes so that Jimmy can always take a sip of his coffee before jumping into it
Lmao, Shohei hasn’t gotten caught stealing from Tuesday to Thursday this season??? That’s huge
Shohei steals bases at a 91.5% success rate (43/47) compared to De La Cruz at 82.4.% (61/74)
To be fair, the dodgers usual day off is thursday
Neither have I
Your analysis on Ohtani's base stealing was interesting but I still have some questions. If you look on Baseball savant for who are the fastest players, Ohtani is only 157th in MLB in sprint speed. Bobby Witt Jr. is No. 1 by that metric, but he's only had a 70% success rate stealing bases this year, whereas Ohtani has been successful 92% of the time. Can you do one of those side by side things where you synch up the videos to show who is actually faster, or how exactly he does it. Does he get a better jump or time it better? What's going on?
157th? I thought Ohtani had elite speed? Interesting!
The one thing I notice about Ohtani is he almost always runs at the exact right time. Like he times up the pitchers wind up perfectly. I think steal timing matters almost as much as sprint speed. No hard stats to back this up though all eye test lol
Yes, like he shows in this video, Shohei is timing pitchers perfectly - which is by far the most important part of stealing bases, *if* you have the speed in the first place (as no matter how well you time the pitcher up, if you're a bottom half speedster you aren't coming in safe unless the pitcher is incredibly slow to the plate and the catcher has a bad arm as well)
That's one of those stats that just sounds wrong. Not saying it is, but 157th? Forget the stolen bases, just seeing him run around the bases for doubles and triples gives you an idea that he is extremely fast, and he has been measured at 157th? I think Baseball Savant need to check their data or Ohtani has some time warping field around him that make everyone slower instead of him faster.
That aside, stealing bases has been always more an art than a brute force thing. You need speed, of course, but just being fast doesn't make you a good stealer. It's all about the moment you start running. If you can time the pitcher just right you can steal bases even without blazing speed, of you can't is very hard even with it. Knowing the pitcher is also a factor. Is not the same to run on prime Justin Verlander throwing fastball after fastball at 97mph that on a slower pitcher who mainly throws breaking balls.
by speed, do you mean home to 1st(out of the box), stealing 2nd or 3rd(sprint), 1st to 3rd(top), there's a lot of ways to measure speed.
Just so you know, Jimmys 3 Things is the only Talkin Baseball show I ALWAYS watch.
Another possible piece of data affecting this. Mookie returns to the lineup on Aug. 13. Shohei stole 5 bases in August before Mookie returned, and 10 in the rest of August.
He actually started stealing lot more after mookie was out. Him being leadoff has alot to do with this mentality of stealing
@@baosommurr4566 Yeah, it could also be linked to the switch up of the batting order that resulted from Mookie being out.
@@baosommurr4566 considering the lineup they had when mookie and freedie were out and bunch of aa or .230 guys i think he understood he had to do more so he did he is very smart he has a big brain as well
Yeah, it's more because Mookie happened to come back and is batting second while Shohei is on this stealing spree than his preferences depending on who is batting behind him.
The thing is no one else seems to be doing it like Ohtani does. Knowing the “secret” is one thing and the ability to successfully execute is another.
I loved the deep dive. Great job
The Twins and the White Sox each only having one double steal on the season, and them coming against each other, is the most baseball stat ever and I love it.
Would love to see some deep dive on the mariners pitching
Logan Gilbert especially, his w/L if he had run support is insane
Ron Washington has the best reactions. He was the 3rd base coach in the 2020 NLCS when Turner made that play and his reaction there was funny too.
i love an insanely deep dive. thanks for this.
So you’re telling me Shohei is studying pitchers and to a point where he can have the highest percentage chance of stealing bases from them in real-time--and applying it?
All the while keeping into consideration who he has batting before and after him to put his team in the best position to bring him home?
All the while re-habbing his arm because he’s actually a pitcher and not a hitter/base runner to begin with?
👏 mvp 👏
Is he a pitcher who also hits, or a hitter who also pitches? 😆
MVP either way!! (I think he's always been a 2-way player. He's both, which is what makes him special.)
Most pitchers rehabbing from elbow surgery can't do anything for their team until their arm heals. It's amazing to me, but we see it. 🤩
Well said!
So you're telling me that playing no defense and sitting on the bench all game allows you to look at pitchers' movements on the iPad?
👏what a shocker👏
Jimmy, Lopez was not out in that tag attempt. Raleigh had the ball in his bare hand when he went for the swipe tag. If you watch it close you can see he doesn't make a transfer after the swipe to throw to first.
💯
I mean, only 4 CSs so it couldn't be all the days of the week even once, so that is not statistically significant.
28:30 It looks like the ball lands in front of the plate with backspin, spins back onto the plate (look for the little hop). The catcher grabs it pretty much right in the middle of the plate (before it goes foul).
Being a pitcher helps him know whats coming as well. He's only 151st fastest in the game but his SB success rate (92%) is way higher than De La Cruz.
Dude I just noticed how much of Shohe how much he uses his brain to calculate the pitchers. Bro this dude is so in tune with baseball in the states. Bro if more baseball players treated baseball like he does, baseball would be way better astelectly than it is, it would be better.
Bro, what does astelectly mean?
This video needs more views!
In terms of the batter up data, it's more coinciding with the months and batting position. When Mookie went down, Ohtani moved into the leadoff spot, and as the season has progressed he's been running more and when Mookie came back, he stayed in the 1 and they put Mookie in the 2...
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The Mookie AB numbers are skewed because before Mookie went on the IL, he batted lead off and Ohtani batted 2nd (Freddie and Smith after them). But when Mookie came back, which correlates with Ohtani stealing more, Mookie has batted behind Ohtani in the order.
the bots are out of control
hey jimmy/whomever, out of curiosity, where is this data from? i've been doing some hobby research into deep data analysis for the mlb, and i've been using retrosheet which is great but doesn't have current season information, and the information it does have isn't this specific (i.e. catcher pop time). is the data publicly available?
Great analysis on Ohtani. But one other key factor is missing. What is the catchers pop time. Catcher’s over 1.7 seconds are slow. The idea for fast runners, pitcher is 1.5 + catcher is 1.7+ that is 3.1+ seconds. If you have a 13’ lead plus 18” first base, 9” second base (those that know how the field is laid out, that is 75’ in 3.1+ seconds. Most good runners can run a 75’ under 3.1 seconds. To translate to a 40 yards that is 4.96 second. So don’t need blazing speed to be a great base stealer.
You gotta say pause jomboy takin it givin it lmfao pause
he's not a child so no he doesn't
@@AliceYobby it’s a joke why you gotta be a Karen stop your mewling
Totally irrelevant to finding out Shohei's secrets but would have been very interesting to see an excel column on if his stolen base mattered (did advancing help him score). Also a stat column for when he wouldn't even try to steal. Guessing those are all pitchers below 1.5 seconds to the plate
The main key is that he has talented batters behind his back. With Mookie and Freddie as the most effective hitters in the line up. Also the bottom of the line are just doing fine to boost the winning rate. So, the team help him, and he help the team. I would say a great teamwork, in contrast with...you know, his last team. Lol
Or yeah maybe you can ask Mensa to test Shohei IQ. He definitely a genius.
You need a better analysis. It's not that he likes to steal when Mookie is up compared to Freddie.
It's got more to do with the batting order. He started stealing much more after Mookie injured his wrist, that's when he was in the 1st in the order. He is just playing his role as the 1st batter.
More bots than shohei stolen bases
Great stuff. Ohtani steals a lot before Betts is because that was the reason (to play him at leadoff). Apparently, Ohtani felt that he needs to do extra to be leadoff (because Betts was great). And it is not surprising his SB ramp up drastically in June/July. He probably did not feel the need/urgency to SB when batting 2nd ...
Can one imagine if Dodgers realized how successful Ohtani can be on SB from the beginning of the season?!? His SB may be more like de la cruz's ... unfortunately, he will start pitching next year and I don't think Dodgers will let him SB this much.
How many unassisted double plays have catchers turned? Cant be many
Not sure the 'count' graph is all that interesting. Every at bat is going to have a first pitch. A lot of at bats are going to have second pitches. And third pitches. Less at bats are going to get to 2-2 or 3-2. So it would make sense for more steals to happen on the counts that are most frequent.
I think to make that chart interesting, we'd need to see something like how many at-bats got to those counts with second/third open while Ohtani was on base regardless of stealing. If would need to be displayed as a proportion rather than a 'raw' count.
When measuring by outs:
Makes sense to be a little more aggressive on two outs. Likewise, would it be 'safer' to steal on two outs? I would need someone who knows how the MLB works to jump in here. But I would assume that with two outs, the pitcher/catcher are probably more focused on getting the batter out than the runner at that point, no? Obvious its not quite "defensive indifference" but would a catcher be more willing to not throw on a close play in order to prevent a more disastrous error?
12 bots in 2 minutes, crazy.
The bots on UA-cam are truly out of control now. Half of them are just posting nonsensical lists of names recently
Mookie would be the perfect batter to take off with IMO, for so many reasons, not least of which is his HOF level situational awareness.
yeah its this thing called SPEED LMAO
Many times there isn't even a throw.
And he never goes in head first.
I’m curious how Soto’s at bats go against a pitcher he is seeing for the very first time
Actually, if you're the Baltimore Orioles, your team doesn't even make the list, so I guess they've had no double steals all year. Sounds correct 😅
Jomboy Math Media - There's an obvious threshold with context.
A) He doesn't take the bat out of the batter's hands
B) He doesn't steal if the base can be given to him for free i.e. he doesn't steal if the walk is imminent No steals on 2-0 or 3-0 or 3-1
C) He also steals as a way to help the batter get favorable pitches.
D) he's protected by the talent who follows him. [Murders row] if they were low batting averages, the pitcher doesn't care about the count.
E) does the last run of steals correspond to his buddy Mookie getting back from injury? Do the maths Mookster got back in August approx 23 games ago
sho must start the weekend early and have long weekends. being being perfect for attempts Tuesday - Thursday and being thrown out on Friday - Monday.
The Mookie/Freddie split is probably because he has started batting ahead of Mookie recently as his SBAs have taken off. His opportunities with Freddie batting probably mostly came in the early months before he got going.
I want Dodgers to win World Series this year to watch the freaking haters cry
are you 11 years old
No stats on if a pickoff was already attempted?
He sold my parlay I needed 1 stolen base from him smh
Ohtanis secret exposed
Soto found his bat against my Cardinals' pitching that's not worth a shit sammich.
Look at me ma. I’m Twitter famous!
60 Sb in a season is nothing. That’s like 225 th best. Ty cob had 130 SB
As far as attempting steals with Betts at the plate, that's a meaningless stat. Betts came off injury near the time that Ohtani started his push for 50-50.
Jimmy four things
Now everyone is gonna know when he's stealing. WTF!
teams already have this info man. unless you're the white sox or A's or Rockies that is. but they aren't going to be able to get him out regardless, let's be real
How does shohei have a stolen base on a full count? How Is that possible?
Shohei took off before the pitcher delivered the 3-2 pitch
3-2 count with less than 2 outs and the batter struck out
you steal and the batter strikes out. use your noggin
if Shohei is going to be pitching again, then this is his one shot at this. I just wonder what inspired it? Being second in MLB in homers and steals is impressive.
what. him pitching won't make it so that he stops hitting and stealing. i'm assuming this is AI because you can't be that dumb about baseball watching this video surely
Ohtani = Click
For the algo
i am bot
So Shohei is gonna get caught stealing today lol
4 stolen bases left before he get to 50.
You genius
Should Jomboy be glazing Ohtani, AS IF OHTANI WAS A NEW YORK YANKEE. Would justify this spreadsheet
are you a child. being a fan of a team doesn't mean you can't appreciate greatness on other teams. especially if they aren't even in your same league. grow up my guy
Shohei is the greatest ball player to ever live and I’m not even a Shohei fan but this judge is the best needs to stop, he’s just another mark mcguire/DH
judge is an above average center fielder, which is the 4th most important position on the field. are you dumb
Uhhhhhhhh what?
The secret? Distract by pointing to his interpreter and just taking it without anyone caring.
🥱🥱🥱 That joke is so overplayed already
Wow. Much boring.
wow. no brain.
Jim do you know if soto weas suffering from a foot injury or toe injury. Looks like he may have been hesitant to make contact on any running down in the zone trying not to foul anything off into his feet
have the white sox had two men on base that many times all year that they could even attempt double steals? yikes