Cheap Spray Gun VS Expensive Spray Gun
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- Опубліковано 12 лют 2020
- In this video I paint 2 panels with all the same products. The only difference is the spray guns used.
1 panel I sprayed the clear coat with a cheap gun. The other with an expensive gun.
All products available from VG Auto Paints.
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I have absolutely no need of an expensive gun. I'm not ever going to paint an expensive show car. That $150.00 gun is all I need. Besides, all the expensive equipment isn't going to help you if you cut corners on the body prep and rush the job. Bad prep will show loudly through the greatest paint.
That is why most professionals refuse to spray cars that are prepped by the owner or someone else. They dont want to put their name of the bad prepwork of someone else.
But for a pro or someone that is looking in to earning his money with is the 700$ is much better. The working time wil be reduced wich means the gun wil earn itself back over time since you can do more work in less time. Also a better spray pattern means nice coverage without doing a lot of work to it afterwards. Wich again is money in the pocket of the pro because less time spent on a job means more earnings.
The area I live in the $150 gun is expensive & A $15 gun is cheap lol
Yep. EASTWOOD vs Harbor Frieght. Ill tae the harbor frieght one honestly. Paint will get f up overntime anyways
Same here
Right! 😂😂😂
yes same, in thailand expensive gun what can buy cost under 200$ and cheapen gun cost 40$ same shop.
@@brandoncaldwell95 most people wetsand anyway so no problem lol
Dave, you are nothing short of awesome - and while you do reduce the gap between DIY and professionals, taking that fear away - it has also given me so much more appreciation for the trade, and how many variables one needs to control to do an awesome job.
Thanks heaps - great video *looks at his 5 in 1 air spraying kit he found under the house*
I have to second that response from CCB. You are the reason I am capable of pulling off top quality paint jobs from a rattle can. I am stepping up to a spray gun soon. Thank you for your efforts and time put into each one of your tutorials. And 👍 on being a car guy as well. Dig the Subaru!
Thank you Dave - from Ohio in the United States.
My favourite paint videos. The guy is pleasant, polite, cheerful yet very focused. Excellent
Hey Dave. Your videos got me started in beginning to learn Custom Paint. I first your video on repairing curb rash on wheels with rattle cans. I did the job and it turned out pretty well. I enjoyed it so much that now I’m learning to airbrush and applying my own clear coat with a mini gun. Thanks for showing me that I could give it a go.
Excellent video. I’m still blown away how well you guys paint upside down without everything flying away, though that must be a huge help with overspray.
Kidding aside, I’ve been looking at a lot of spray guns and am leaning towards the 3m Accuspray system.
Great! This is definitely my "go to channel" on UA-cam regarding painting. Keep up the good work!
Thanks so much for your channel.
I did my first spray gun job after watching lot's of your tutorials and to tell the truth from being terrified of using a gun, now I love it. I'd only used rattle cans in the past.
My paint job wasn't the best in the world but was so much better thanks to your instruction.
Thanks again.
David Sydney Oz
Another quality video. Just brought some supplies from VG today. Did your course as well. I have learned so much from your videos. Thankyou. Keep them coming.
Me: *stares at $10 Harbor Freight spray gun in the garage* so where do you fall on the poor scale?
I've used them on smaller projects with success. Gravity feed 12.99 gun. After painting my engine bay I simply threw it in the trash, it wasn't worth the time cleaning it!! haha
Lol
I did a candy paint job on my motor cycle and threw it after as well came out good though I even sprayed flake. No problems.
Shh It's ok spray gun he's just saying your affordable
That's what I'm saying its just paint and a car why would anyone pay thousands of dollars for a paint job when some one can run into it a week later. That's what happen to me done all the hard work to make a some what show finish. Had it at the Grocery store and someone pushed a shopping cart into it on purpose. I had to work on to patch it up I could see it didn't match right to any one else wouldn't notice.
Hey man thanks for these videos, I get incredible value from them. I'm just a home project guy, so it's really important for me to know where to spend the money. I'm not in a production shop, so if I need to spend a couple of hours sanding and polishing that's no big deal, so my money is better spent on consumables, which is great to know. I've been watching for a couple of years now and love the channel, thanks!
Dave, your videos are excellent! I have found them interesting and informative. Please keep up your great work!
Dave your videos are the reason I Choose to be a painter and body repair man for that Thank You For inspiring me to follow this Career path Thank You from Arizona
CheifCrazyBuffalo that is absolutely awesome mate. Great work.
I have been watching your videos for about 7 years now, and want say thank you brother.You definitely have helped close the gap between pro and diy+. Good to see you still enjoying your work and again thanks for your time and help.From San Diego California.👍
Agree 💯 regarding practice and technique is more important than expensive gear!
Your an amazing individual and your main focus ever since releasing videos has been the same much love
Great review on both gun's spray quality. I like that you included the opinions of other professional painters and expressed their reviews of the quality of work. This is pretty much a no brainer result video. If it's someone who is a DIY in your own garage and don't care about the professional opinion, then the cheaper gun is the option, but if you are an established professional painter and care about your craftmanship, then the more expensive gun is the better option. Great vid!
Awesome video! I appreciate the explanation and approval of both guns around the 5 minute mark. Sometimes, it doesn't make sense to spend the money on the better gun, but sometimes it does! It depends on the paint application/vehicle, and the project at hand, just as you stated.
Excellent work. You've got a new scubscriber too now haha.
I painted my bike with a 12eur lidl spray gun. The paint looks absolutely great! I wouldn't say it's worse than 90% of the paint shops. Yes, in order to achieve good mist you have to reduce the volume of the paint quite a bit, and the spray pattern is small, so you would be painting much slower than the quality gun, but for a bike it's not much of an issue. On a bike you have smaller parts, no large flat areas and you wouldn't be painting for too long anyways. For large areas, like a hood, doors, etc it would be difficult to get no stripes.
Straight to the point and love that you had the opinion of others, great video!
Loved the video! In my first golf lesson the pro showed me it was not the club it was the golfer and technique.... Same here great job
Because of your skill and experience I am sure you can adjust no matter how limited the equipment is, to get great results.
Thanks to your videos i had the confidence to rebuild and custom paint my motorcycle after a bad crash. I did so well taking the time to prepare, sand repaint then polish I entered a show and shine competition and won the amateur class. Thanks from the UK you are what makes UA-cam great, I would love to go to one of your classes one day.
hey man. i am only just starting to look at what tools to get to do diy paintjobs for my motorcycle. just curious, when you say sand, do you use a powertool or manual sanding by hand? thanks
Great video Dave.
Great video. Have a hood to paint soon, in white! I have done some small spray can jobs on some older cars of mine. Quality of finish was as good as you can get with a rattle can. No one ever noticed, but were always easy colours. I have nothing to lose so I guess its off to get a cheap gun, and order the product.
Thanks Dave. Great comparison.
Thank you ! I learned a lot from you. You're a great teacher and keep up the great work
that's very cool that you do the free workshops.
thats awesome that u do lessons like that
Thanks for your videos. You really do fill the gap between pros and diy guys. Amd you do it quite humbly. Mahalo from hawaii
First class video I love watching them I have learnt lots from you, thanks
great video! I love the part where you explained you can get a great finish from either setup if you're a skilled painter. I am by no means a pro But I have worked in auto body and learned a lot after painting my civic 3 times. I use a cheap atp 6900 series spray gun. I bought premium tech base napa paint and clear coat. I painted my crx yellow. I spent days repairing my front fenders and using guide coat. even had to reshape the body line and pound out dent's. When I was finished I had two fenders that were soooooo beautiful. the yellow is amazing and I can still see blemishes and need to sand and polish. But they look amazing. the rest of the car looks good and has paint on it now. I love using a 3m paint liner spray gun setup. so easy to clean.
I used a 12.99 gun from harbor freight on my engine compartment once and it came out beautiful.
I was thinking more like some 20$ vs expensive one :)
Totally agree. But if you are a pro, you have a different definition of a cheap gun.
Those are Australian dollars dude.
@@christophermoody50 $150 Australian dollars even on our worst day and your best day has never been any worse than $50USD or so. At the moment it's closer to $85-$95 but it's very volatile at the moment
@@mister3722 If someone can't justify 50-85 bucks to buy a spray gun to paint your car, well I dont know what can i say. You'll spend more than 20 on body filler for God's sake.
Same hahaha
THANK YOU FOR BEING A TEACHER FOR THE DIY PERSON ,THANKS AGAIN FROM MINNESOTA USA
Keep the vids up mate. I no you have helped me heaps over the years 👌👌 cheers !
Great vid mate. I’m surprised at the amount of spray mist that appears to not land on the panels. Is that common of a trick of the lighting? What powered air system are you using? Looks wicked.
Great video...thanks for taking the time in putting.it.together. 👍
Just finished spraying my wheels with the 2Spray’s little brother minigun 😉👍🏻
great video! I appreciate the high quality work put forth.'
thank you for the knowledge.
nice paint.
Great video Dave, keep it up. Long time subscriber.
Love the channel mate keep em coming
the important thing is the man behind the gun...!
And you're so good dude...!
no matter which gun you used.... :)
prep and temp and robot.
Thanks for this highly informative video. BTW your Speed Triple looks great!
Thanks for that👍
I like that black cup on the DV1. I wish that still made the colored metal cups like on my ancient Devilbiss Aces Wild gun.
Thanks for this. I'm planning on trying to paint my car on my garage if the local shops want too much money (6k+) so I'm researching what I need. Very informative. I'm leaning more towards the cheaper gun since this will be a one time thing.
I'm with you Clint. 6,500 bills to paint my wifey's Pilot. Ahem, NO!!!. Looks like I'm doing it myself as I've always wanted to. Kinda on my makeshift "Bucket List" Then I'll do my Truck.
Beautifully done
Sir - love your video's - I get on a high when I get a nice finish with my middle of the road Taiwan HVLP spray gun - BTW had a lot of f-ups - but that's how you learn
In México sell an equal of a certain Brand equally cheap and before seeing your video I bought and the truth is that if it leaves some very good finishes I am the lighted with that gun! And your videos is very good!
Good info man. Good to see the honesty. A good spray man can do good work with crap. The more expencive guns are nice but, not needed. Just practice. Nice work man.
I bought a $70 gun from super cheap auto, it is fine for my use.
A proper clean after every use & 6 years later it's still working.
I found that the compressor I was using, wasn't giving a constant pressure.
I upgraded the compressor & that made a hell of a difference.
Well presented, thanks. I have cheap, but, sometimes, it's just nice to have best!
I'd always prefer to pay for a pro job, but I simply can't afford to. Your videos, particularly the ones about using spray cans, have given me the confidence to have a go myself. Thanks for sharing your skill.
I've found that whatever gun you use requires you to adjust your technique accordingly to get the material to lay down properly the more expensive guns do seem to spray more consistently than cheaper ones but that is only noticeable on a higher productivity level.
Its great to see that make the bliss gun available
Great video.I would like to see a similar comparison with basecoat.I think it's a little more difficult for premium results with metallics and pearls with cheaper gun.thank you
Great video and I am all for having a go.
I'm about to go with a 1.4mm tip Devilbliss FLG5 for base + clear and a 2.0mm tip on cheapo gun for primer.
Just need to confirm the paint type I will use before buying.
Thanks a lot - great videos.
My god man…very nice job!
in my opinion you have a lot of things to consider to find a good results in spray painting, of course number one is preparation, calibration of paint,temaparature and etc.
Great video! What was the brand and model of the less expensive spray gun?
Liked, subscribed and learned.
I’m planning to respray a car (BMW E34 Touring) in original MaldivenBlau. It’s a metallic blue.
Frustratingly I have already effed up the gloss black roof I did because I believed the spray can hype.
So much time wasted.
So disappointed with the results.
Thanks for your efforts with the video, I’m looking forward to watching the rest now and learning much more.
Amazing job
this dude olnyl tells the truth,its not about the Gun its the one who use it.nice chanel bro thnk you.
I use a FLG5 for my BC/CC, ANI F160 for single stage, and ANi R150 for small items. DeVilbiss Starting Ling for primer and adhesion promoter.
Great video! Thanks for sharing this!
Thanks for the invaluable info.👍
I was gonna make the comment myself, but you mentioned it yourself in the video with your little speech about variable between 4:25 and 5:00. The gun is more for the painter's comfort/preference than the finish. even with the better spray gun in a clean environment used by a pro, there will still likely be some minor issues that will need to be sanded and buffed out. And as a professional detailer myself, orange peel matching is another thing to keep in mind. It's sometimes better to have more orange peel in your finish and then knock it down slowly so it can match adjacent panels that haven't been repainted.
Overall I agree with you 100%. The better gun is only about 5% of the factors in the finish. Technique and experience is %80 of it.
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing!
What about paint up from underneath something. What type of gun would you recommend for that type of situation. From my understanding these work best pointing downwards using gravity
Great video. Even now that I know the answer the panels still look indistinguishable but I'm not an expert and don't know what to look for. It would have been interesting if you zoomed in close and explained some of the small differences in the results.
Right looks better to me, you can get decent results with gun prep goes a long way but the product being spray do help and so does skill
I love the fact that your cheap gun is worth more than my entire spray set and part of the cost of my compressor XD
Right. Harbor frieght spray gun, and a compressor from an estate sale. Total, $150
wish we had Harbour Freight (and their prices) here in Australia...
@@mrmcbeardy9268 ya, yall get she short stick. Then again, what do you all expect from be Britain's criminal outcasts sent there to die yet flourished. 1 st itterally bought 2 paint guns due to the price. Each have different flow rates one with a regulator. Whopping $45 out the door for both.
@@brandoncaldwell95 is that English or hillbilly jibbly goop language
Your the man...great video mate...from NZ
Mr Eighty Twenty You're*
Thanks for what you do! Very helpful 🙂
Great video ,,, thanks for sharing you’re experience with us...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🙏🏼
Thanks for this! im looking into moving from rattle cans to a spray gun and i am going to start with the cheaper one!
You should try this experiment with the base coat and the variation.
Hi Dave , great video but to be honest I would have love to see the application of both base and the clear coat with each gun, and by the way can you tell me where you got the Anest Iwata spray suit from, I’d really like to get one of those
I can tell you they are hilux guards.
Your a good painter congrats.
I paint in a garage where there is always going to be trash in the paint, so the cheap gun works just as good since ill have to sand and buff anyways.
Red1ineRR I’m with ya there mate👍
What kind/brand of paint do you guys use?
Keep the floor wetted down with a water hose, it makes a huge difference in keeping trash from blowing up and onto paint. 👍🏽
Same here.
I'm a carpainter apprentice, I use a veteran satajet 3000 from 2006 and it's absolutely great
Your video helped so much. Thank you!
Wonderfull video ... Very good information for beginners,
Really i like this thank u
Talking about cheap vs expensive how about the whole setup rather than just a gun. Would you always go with a compressor or do you think turbine HPLV is an option?
When you painted the first one, you got some paint dust on the second panel, which had time to cure while you were prepping to paint the other, thus affecting the paint job
Never sprayed in a booth have you ...?
Ben Harrell look closely, he is not spraying in a paint booth. More like a regular room
markman63 3:41 genius.... your answer is there lol So ? You love those $12 HF guns too ?? lol Now take your foot out of your mouth...
Thank you 🙏 it was amazing 😉 because it was hard to tell the difference between the two fenders off which the cheap and the expensive gun do keep it up 🧨🧨🧨🧨🧨🧨💣💣💣👍👍👍👍👌👌💯💯💯💪💪💪👊👊👊🙏🙏🙏🏆🏆🏆🏆
Great channel, thanks for sharing.
Great video.... Good teacher
Cheers pal great video, curtly respirating my freelander with my cheap gun and wondering if it’s worth the investment for a new one
Dave you kick ass mate love all your vids you do they have helped me in so many ways with issues ect ect do you sell that $150 gun there at vg.
Zac Agraniotis thanks mate. Yes vg’s have that gun. 👍
That was very interesting. I painted a couple fenders on my old winter beater just to get some practice. Used a $40 paint gun from princess auto and it turned out pretty good....for a beater and my first time but I really want a nice paint gun. I keep thinking about a Tekna with 3 tips and a couple caps for $700cdn? I dunno...I’m a retired mechanic and it’s been burned into my brain that I shouldn’t try to paint the car I been working on for 2yrs with a $40 spray gun or even a $150 gun. Like I said I dunno. I’m gonna sand and buff it for sure cause for some odd reason I love colour sanding and buffing. Very good video and was especially good to see the difference in spray patterns of the 2 guns.
I use to be an automotive painter (still paint from time to time). I would recommend the Tekna Pro Lite (or Pro), they are fantastic guns. I owned some of the most expensive guns from Sata & Iwata, but I just love my Devilbliss. They are easy to setup, easy to spray and don't cost an arm & a leg. The biggest consideration should be the quality of the paint. Valspar/House of Kolor are the easiest to spray and get great results. PPG Deltron line of paint or BASF/RM Diamont would be my second choices. There are other paints on the market (Axalta/Dupont) which cost just as much but they don't hold up. Any cheap line from the all of the manufactures (HOK doesn't have a cheap line) will only last a few years. Plus they are harder to get a good finish with those guns. Stay away from all water-borne paint unless you want to buy multiple expensive guns and have a facility to spray it in. This is why I quit painting professionally, I was about to have to buy a whole new set of spray guns and I didn't like spraying the water-borne paints.
I love that triumph
Another great vid. thankyou
Really great video. What spray gun is that cheap one? Any cheap one you would recommend?
I picked the difference only because I thought the panel that was done with the cheaper gin looked a little less "polished" or a little more orange peel, although I could not pick the roughness on the screen, just a slightly less sharp reflection that I think would be mitigated with a light wet sand and polish
Thanks for the video, as I'm after a cheap spray gun to paint a project car in the coming months, and this is perfect
Harbor Freight $20 spray gun is a cheap spray gun but can still produce an acceptable finish after cut and buff. The $150 gun will produce a better finish by laying down the paint and clear more evenly but cut and buff is still needed. The $700 spray gun is going to spray more evenly and therefore be faster and smoother to use but cut and buff is needed just as with the other two. After cut and buff the differences are very difficult if not impossible to detect. The quality of the product and skill of the painter with a gun he's comfortable with determine quality of the finished product more than the price of the spray gun, especially after cut and buff. I've produced better finishes with my $150 Atom X27 than my neighbor with his expensive Iwata or Devilbis mainly because I use better quality primer, base and clear and prep my panels better than he does. I do appreciate the video as it pretty much proves my point. Nicely done.
Mate I wish you was over here in the UK man in trying so hard to find somewhere in london that had good reviews and stuff but so hard to come by mate
In my opinion, you should also spray basecoat with both guns. With good quality clearcoat, you don't really need hyper expensive gun to spray it properly, but when you have some pearl or even silver metallic basecoat, there you can see the difference much more easily. With very cheap guns (about $20) sometimes it's even impossible to spray basecoat with good result.
Thank you so much... You're video helps me a lot....
Do you have any place in Victoria where we can take a few lessons? Great video