Cheaper Gun VS Expensive Spray Gun
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- Опубліковано 11 бер 2020
- In this video I painted 4 panels.
2 were laid flat and to were placed vertical.
2 panels I sprayed the base and clear with a $25 spray gun.
2 Panels were sprayed with a $750+ pro spray gun.
I then showed them to 7 guys and the results will surprise you. Check it out.
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I've been painting over 20 years and used both cheap and expensive, currently using a clone devilbiss for backyard work that cost $160 and I love it. The trick with cheap guns is to keep them as clean as the day you purchased them or they foul up and are never the same again.
Haha legit, get lazy oneday and do a half assed takeapsrt clean ect....... there fucked lol
Your comment really helps thank you 👍
@JTECH7766 I totally agree. 👍
The flip side is that buying an expensive gun and not maintaining it as meticulously as it deserves will not only waste money but produce shoddy results.
I was at the detailing lesson hosted by Dave on 12/3. All of the participants were impressed with the finish achieved by the $25 gun. Thanks Dave, it was an awesome lesson, buying that $25 gun tomorrow.
Do you know if the nozzle can be replaced with a smaller one?
Exactly as I predicted. On the flat panels you can dump enough clear on that the clear flattens by itself. On the vertical panels the difference in atomization might cause more runs with the cheap gun as that's been my personal experience. If you can avoid runs on the vertical panels you might have more orange peel with the cheap gun. To me it's the vertical panels where any advantage of the more expensive guns is more obvious as you just can't smash it on without having it run if the atomization isn't top notch.
The message is... if you’re painting one car.. cheap will do.. if you’re painting every day/week you want the best..
it’s like tools.. how much do you use them..
This is pretty much the case for all tools.
That is it.
Well said
As an additional comment the cheapest spray guns made (NOT CHEAPEST SOLD) is the 3M Accuspray spray guns made entirely of plastic. They charge $200 for an injected molded plastic gun with disposable spray heads that can't cost them any more than $5 to make. The point I’m making is that they spray very well. There has been little change in the science of spray guns since Iwata introduced its split nozzle design that pre-atomizes the finish. All of the rocket science has already been done and the copycat guns can be very good now.
I think an interesting comparison with the expensive and cheap guns would be to use a home compressor and see if theres a variance there.
Fantastic video none the less, gives me hope!
Yes, as I have a GMC cheap compressor, so great idea
Cheap compressor will do the job, air tank size that will get you lol will start to loose pressure and become peeely as fuck
Thank you. I love learning from your videos.
Fascinating stuff Dave. Another 2 million + views for this one.
This was awesome, thanks Dave!
Hi. I went to a Specialist Jaguat day last weekend and l really regret not purchasing a £15 gun that looked pretty damn close to my SATA. If nothing else it would have been ideal for priming. Thanks for the show! And it's great to see someone actually wearing all the correct gear. Well done!
Keeping your equipment clean and in good repair has more to do with useful life than price. To borrow from my other training, it's more about the skill of the person pulling the trigger and the quality of the the ammunition than the price of the gun. Well done presentation.
I have very cheap spray guns and higher quality/priced spray guns. The main reason I prefer my more expensive guns for base and clear...they are a bit lighter and feel better in my hand. Spraying with a gun he's comfortable with has more to do with the finished product than the price of a painter's spray gun. Thank you for the comparison.
Basically, price determines reliability and long service life.
Thanks, Dave. Great comparison for guys like me that aren't pros, aren't wanting to be pros, but just want to do one or two jobs at home and achieve the best results we can. It's good to know that we don't need to spend a fortune to get started and that we should focus on things like technique and such instead of about the gear.
Great comparison. Just shows that a great tradesman has no need to blame his tools. Did you have to set them up any differently to get the desired finish, ie. pressure and fan width?
Great Vid. This $25 gun is our commensense of "cheap guns". Some other comparisons on YT defined something under USD 200 or even USD 400 as cheap guns.........
Thats crazy i would have thought there would Be heaps of difference between the cheap and expensive
He has good technique to, shit painter+ shit gun would probs be different lol
Would have to wonder if it would be worth using the cheap guns more often and throwing them out when done - the cost of time and materials to clean a $25 gun (or a $700 gun). Use it and discard.
Also shows the value of skills - No doubt the countless hours of painting you have make a HUGE difference in performance/finish that the average person might achieve with either gun.
@Steven Citizen perhaps if you had studied economics you may better understand my question. lol.
Great video very informative
Panel 1 and three have some orange peel on the panels actually. Because at the end of the video you can see the reflection of the light bulb not be so smooth when the light passes.
It all comes down to the nut behind the butt! Don't blame the gun if you can't shoot. Nice info and help. Here from South Africa!!
Thanks so much, I'm about to spray my ute acrylic black and I walked past that gun in bunnings the other day, I might buy that and take back the $20 supercheap auto one back before I open the box
Sick montage
Good to know, I pretty much base all my Tool Purchases on how many times there likely to get used but wasnt sure if there was much difference with cheap spray gun
Just goes to show it’s not about how much you spend on equipment, it’s about how you use it. I bought a HVLP gun at a pawn shop for $7 and it was a cheapo. Had to be extensively cleaned up but now looks new inside. I think I’ll give it a go to paint an old Dodge truck with.
Dude, I was just thinking about you! This is awesome! Hope all is well
Very Kool.
Have ya done a vid on the difference between colour base/black base with a Colour clear/black clear. If ya get what I mean. I’m spraying my bike tins ( again for a change lol ) and thinking of doing a clear with tint. What’s best… cheers for vids.
I've used those cheapo guns before and was actually very happy with them. They work great as long as they are kept really clean, the second they gunk up it's all over. Also, on one of them that trigger snapped haha. Overall though, they do a decent job for the person who only paints from time to time. Great video
Can't really compare spray guns on a flat surface. Anyone can pound paint on a flat and get a super slick surface. It's really the horizontal surfaces where you can't totally pound the paint on with no consequences is where you will see a cheap vs expensive gun shine. However good video bro iv been watching you for years love your work!
I dig your montage man! lol
Hey what settings where you running the ozito gun at? Definitely wanna give it a try. That price tag is just too good
Big thanks !!!
How timely, I was just in the market for a new spray gun.
Great video 🙋♂️
Well done thanks
Once or twice per year DIY will do well with cheap gun, if cleaned properly every time!
5-6 working days a week is another thing.
The right compressor is more the question for DIY, often they will use a inferior one. And if they bought a 500 bucks gun it's a sour lesson to spend a bundle on the adequate compressor...
Left the painting 83 and jumped into carpentry. Still do some jobs now and then. But am woody to the core 😂
Spray painting today has come a long way, 👌👌👌
Great video
Great video, what settings were you using on the cheap gun?
Cheap guns are OK for the diy guy at home but must keep it really clean
the difference is in the way that they spray the metallics , a trained eye can easely spot the difference in texture and density pattern
Hi is that ozito gun still working? And can u do a vid on how to clean spray gun up after u use it pls.
Good paint and especially good clear coat will make any gun look better. I would like to see you try the test again with something in the line of 5 star clear coat to see if their is a difference. I killed myself buying cheap clear coat for years. It made me work twice as hard cutting and buffing.
A thick HS clear will put a cheap gun to the test. Ms clears are more forgiving.
Good comparing both, I am using chipper Spray Gun...n get good final result..
Can you do this test on silver charcoal mettalic color,ty so much
That's so good! Fairly sure I was one of the guys that said $150 was expensive 😆 Could almost say it's disposable... If you only need to do one item a year.
Hi there, I'm just wondering, with the cheap gun, did you follow the instructions manual on pressures or did you use the same pressure settings for both guns.
Cheers
I'm a noob, really, I'm starting from zero right now, and to my eyes, through the screen, that four panels looks amazing, for me, the same quality, remember, I'm a noob, I wish to paint like you some one day
Great video for a novice in air spray guns, can you tell me where can i get your mask respirator
A good painter can get good results with an expensive gun. A great painter can get good results with any gun. I believe in starting with a really cheap gun. If you can get good with it, then you will do great when you upgrade. Or do like me and throw away the cheap gun after a few uses. The one I use is usually around $10-15
I'm planning on painting our bus/motorhome conversion soon. As somebody who'll do one paint job then pack the gear away forever, the cheap Ozito one looks great. Better head to Bunnings before martial law prevents us from leaving the house during this pandemic.
Does the Ozito model allow for different nozzles as it supplies a 1.5mm nozzle?
where did you get the metal practice panels and what are you using steel from a hardware store?
New subscriber, great vid.
To be honest, I didn't expect that! I thought for sure the cheap gun was going to give a terrible finish. I have been told that they don't atomise the paint as well as a pro gun which leads to a terrible finish. Good video Dave 👍
Wade Midgley also cheap clear expensive clear.. 2k vs acrylic ect..
if you painting cars for a living buy a good spray gun especially if you doing complicated colours they automize colours better . i have a sata 5000 b 1.4 hvlp for spraying basecoat recently purchase x5500 1.4 i hvlp that x5500 makes the 5000 look like childplays .
I was just wondering the time difference between the two guns.
I can legit see the difference in the peel in the clear on 1080p. But only against the lights while moving in the end shot. I can see less peaky peel on the DV1. Not much in it though.
Would love to take the challenge in person haha
Hey custom mods.i have a question for you. Do you sand in between colours before applying clear coat?
Nice. What were the pressures set at?
Nice presentation but it was dark base, why don't you try that cheap gun on some light silver and see how it spray. Greetings from Serbia.
What jet was in the cheap gun and also what size jet do you tend to use for primers thanks
I think the only other thing that would be good would be to measure the film thickness on the panels, while both guns used the same volume of paint, I would have thought the high end gun would have had better transfer efficiency.?
Could you tell the difference?
@customspraymods I bought the same ozito gun to spray supercheap black acrylic on my ute, I have a regulator on the bottom of the gun the same as yours, what would be a good psi to set it to??? Thanks
Here in the states we have harbor freight what if I sent you a $10 gun?
8:40min 2 of those panels looked orange peely, I'm guessing that was from the cheap gun
bought 2 yrs ago..a cheap 36 dollar gun 1.2 tip.why?? because I figured on a whim.check and see if it did better than the 28$ harbor freight
the Jet tools cheap gun had 2 tips.1.4 ....1.2..if not mistaken.mb 1.1 but think 1.2..
but anyway.wow how much nicer.
only thing after using few times over 3 days trying to paint pieces.it started to develop a leaking drip.at the trigger area.
was a pain .and had to clean the tip often..It had few extra holes for atomation.but shur did spray well for a beginner..
tool later and spent 700 for a devilbis.and love it.still some learning curve but it sprays as nice.if setting off a little the cheap did a nicer job meaning will take time adjusting to the devilbis.
being new at painting.hope the next round of painting i get things working a little better.21 gal tank is not the best.but has worked thru trials and errors for this 78 nova project.time tells all...
think I will try to practice when time comes to get air pressure down to about 30..I have had learned 45 psi the guns did great.and lowering psi.will most likely be a goal try .and see what is what.good video you done here
What type of guns is he using ? Was that HVLP or LVLP ?
Hi from Russia) Thanks for such a good video. Well done)) We have a strong opinion here that it is impossible to paint well with such a cheap Chinese gun, and you need to have at least a cheap branded gun. I don’t even remember such tests with us. Thank you looked with pleasure.
Yea, seems like the cheapo guns in USA, cos they have a large variety of cheapo brands compared to Oz, can be pretty crap out the box. I've also seen comparisons where the quality of the spray job gets worse the more the cheapo gun is used. Would one last to do an entire car yourself? Who knows which is why I went for a beginners gun from Devilbiss so I didn't have to find out the hard way.
I did a search on the Ozito gravity feed spray gun and here in the U.S., only Australia and New Zealand sites came up. Shipping would make it impractical.
You'll probably find that Ozito products and similar US branded cheap tools all come from the same Chinese factory. Home Depot may have something equal to the Ozito brands.
Ozito is a Bunnings store brand in Oz. In US it's likely a Home Depo or similar. Here in the UK something on the internet will be the same, Good luck.
A painter is a painter no matter what he has! How do u all think the old timers created masterpieces with regular house tools and whatever they could find
i think if were talking about ferraris i'll always go with the expensive guns , but right now im happy to use my cheaper guns under 30 bucks ... gud on you mate:)
Hi friend, nice video, what cheap spray gun u recommend.. i have a 20 gals air compressor, the air consumed is 4.3 cfm @ 90 psi and 6.1 cfm @ 40 psi.. i looking a spray gun for clear coat (1.3mm tip right)..what recommended for my air compressor specs...?? I looking one google and ebay but all 1.3mm tip is 8 cfm or more... or any lvlp? Thank u..
Depends on the size of the project. If doing spot/panel work or a motorcycle a mini gun would be fine.
If doing large projects, you will need to consider a bigger air compressor.
You should record one really ride safety gear montage and then just reuse it for every single spray episode like the Power Rangers🤫🤫😅😅😅😅😅 please do!!!
Nice video. So for someone like me that paints only once and a while, I can rest with my cheap gun
So, if no one picked all 4 correct, is your end result that its not the gun , its the painter?
I use cheap welders do not know why people buy expensive ones. I paid 150 for my mig welder and have run at least a mile of wire through it.
25 dollars wow
just think of the less cam cleaner you buy.once it starts to play up chuck it.
for 750 bucks you can get 30 of the ROFL
Less difference for quality, but huge difference for gun durability.
Berapa harganya spray gun.yang pertama.???
Cheap guns dont have tip options or accessories. You just get whats in the box.
My technique must suck then as my clear coats have massive orange peel, soon much there is little shine in it until sand and polish it. Using a cheapass gun blackridge
Used a 9.99 harbor freight gun. On my rattle can candy orange paint job on my bike. Sprayed 400.00 a gallon ppg db 4000 clear. Worked just fine. Then I wrecked the bike a week later.
Diy guys use lots of filters in your line. Waters a bitch.
So you read our comments and made this video. Thanks. It seems the 25 dollar gun works better than the 150 dollar one you used in the other video.
I'll buy the cheaper one for working at home and use it with my 2hp 10bar 50lt compressor. Is the compressor good enough?
Thank you guy.
Hey. Check the air delivery. If its over 130Litres per minute it should be fine
@@customspraymods it's a 125... Hope 5lt are not going to change so much with a 19€ spraygun. Have you got a website?
Very nice work. Ive always remembered a saying from many years ago, "it's the Indian, not the arrow".
Great video but it’s worth remembering there are cheap guns and then there is cheap rubbish . Although Ozito make cheap tools, they can’t afford to sell cheap rubbish, I would stay away from really cheap unbranded stuff for the most part even if it’s for a one off job I’d be doing at home
I have bought quite a few Ozito products and have been happy with all of them except for the electric lawnmower and whippersnipper. Rather use petrol lol
Nicholas Heidl that’s what I mean they don’t make rubbish they make very affordable tools some items are better than others but I doubt Ozito would sell anything totally crappy , I like their stuff
@@watchthisspacecarchannel6523 I have bought the Ozito spray gun and will have a play
Lolol this is what we want less than £25 most of us want
man the montage would have been hilarious if u dropped the cheap gun while flipping it
I can see light distortion in 2 panels more than the other so 1 gun is spraying a bit flatter than the other
This cheep gun name please
So vertical was pure random and flat was just wrong
have to ask, do you sand/wet sand the base coat at all?? going to be doing a few little bits at home and had mixed responses on doing like an 800grit wet sand on the base first before the clear coat. and, should i got acrylic or enamel??
Subways Shenanigans I didn’t and don’t ever sand the basecoat.
@@customspraymods ok, because when ever ive sprayed, the panel always has the last 2 or so line with the "wet" look. but where i first startes, although it had the wet look then has the overspray coming to it once ive reached the bottom of the panel and leaves it looking dusty. dont know if that makes sense or not aha. that why i was thinking it needed that sand to even it all out or does the clear coat do that anyway
If your spraying everyday the cheap gun is way more expensive
...so cheap gun is a toss away when done.
Well done ! this time this is really cheap. I've got a cheap gun and after 4 time use, he is dead..
now im more confused...which do i buy for painting motorcycle fairings🤔🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
The cheapest paint gun will be harbor freight. If you haven't already try one of them
Test a black Ridge gun haha
Send me the cheap one
Is not only the tool, but who is using it. Give a noob some pro equipment and it will not ended well... I mean the tools and equipment will not going to do all the job by themselves no matter they are the most expensive you can give him, but give a pro some cheap equipment and the results will be very good, not that perfect but outstanding at least and in some cases it will be almost at the same level of the professional and expensive equipment. And of course, all depends on how often are you going to use it. For a DIY cheap tools are ok, but for a daily work or professional auto painting, you better stick with the most reliable equipment and that is never cheap.
A lot of time in life you can pay 50% more for something 5% better (arbitrary numbers).