Double Leaf Spring Upgrade - Fiat Ducato

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  • Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
  • So having fitted Sumo springs to the rear of my Fiat Ducato, video linked here: • How to Upgrade to Sumo... I’ve decided to upgrade to double rear leaf springs so this will allow more suspension travel and in my opinion this will work well in combination with the Sumo Springs. There is a clip at the end of the video that shows them working well together. The double leaf springs has increased the ride height and the van doesn’t drive as if it’s overloaded so a good upgrade I believe. Only the front to get sorted now 😂

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  • @aerialinsights
    @aerialinsights 13 днів тому +1

    There's something oddly satisfying about watching suspension in motion.

  • @dockerandy
    @dockerandy 7 місяців тому +3

    Hi, apparently, those bump stops are actually spring assistors and as such are supposed to be in contact with the top of the spring. ( i did the same job on my citroen camper but fitted triple leaf springs. It was over kill to be honest but it looks like the van is empty ! However i have found that the front needs raising as well now as the rear sits so high ! I also fitted new bump stops and shocks as they came as a kit. £350 from midland springs in case anyone is interested. 👍👍

    • @nickharper6436
      @nickharper6436  7 місяців тому

      Thanks for the comments and yes I think they are assisters as you say. I put SUMOs on the front to. It has made a difference to the ride but only a slight increase in height to counteract my double leaf springs

  • @ElliotMelloy
    @ElliotMelloy Рік тому +1

    7:03 the auto door locks still get me every time I pull away :)
    Sitting in my van watching this and it made me jump.

    • @nickharper6436
      @nickharper6436  Рік тому

      Ha ha yes they do Elliot. Thanks for the comments and happy 🚐 ing!

  • @johncampbell4498
    @johncampbell4498 День тому +1

    Great video, very helpful. just a trivial ask, Q. which and how did you mount the camera for watching the spring movement while driving? - is it a gopro? which model? very clear to watch.
    - and what is your next upgrade? rear shocks or the Front end? -i guess that is a whole aother question - what about the front end?! - thanks for posting the great video.

    • @nickharper6436
      @nickharper6436  День тому

      Hi John thanks for the comments. Is the little cube GoPro and I used a fly mount to mount it to the underneath. Regarding the front I’ve put Sumo spring assisters on. Eventually I’ll change the shocks but for now I’m satisfied with the ride!

  • @chrisforbes2124
    @chrisforbes2124 Рік тому +3

    Hi great video. It looks like one of the nuts on the end of the leaf spring hasn't been tightened. Defo worth a look over

    • @nickharper6436
      @nickharper6436  Рік тому +1

      Chris you are right. It has now come of so will go and get another. Many thanks for the observation it’s appreciated 👍

    • @chrisforbes2124
      @chrisforbes2124 Рік тому +2

      @@nickharper6436 not a problem just happened to notice.

    • @neilwr7442
      @neilwr7442 Рік тому +2

      That was a good spot🫡

  • @neilwr7442
    @neilwr7442 Рік тому +1

    Cheers Nick. Thanks for doing video. 👍

  • @firstnamelastname2669
    @firstnamelastname2669 Рік тому +1

    interesting. I put both spacers on with the sumos and don't believe I've hit the bump stops sice, even with the trailer on. It does, of course, compress the sumos a fair bit. I think they should take that ok, but time will tell.

    • @nickharper6436
      @nickharper6436  Рік тому

      Yeh they should be ok as the material seems to be strong

  • @eddvanlife7396
    @eddvanlife7396 Рік тому +2

    I fitted the Sumo's after doing alot of research on Sumos versus Air Suspension. The ride with just the Sumos is much better and cornering more stable. Nick were you advised to add the heavy duty double leafs or was it your own idea? I weighed my conversion fully laden all fluids including 2 passengers at came in at 3.18 Tonnes. In a Quandary - what was the labour on getting your local garage to fit them?

    • @nickharper6436
      @nickharper6436  Рік тому +2

      No I wasn’t advised but they came up as a relatively cheap option due to being second hand. They cost me £70 to have fitted and have mad a difference to the feel of the van ie not heavily loaded ! The Sumos do work great on their own and as you say do improve cornering etc. That said the single leafs we flat but now with the double it just takes the pressure off the Sumos!

  • @sccobyste
    @sccobyste Рік тому +1

    What size wheels and tyres have you got and is it worth it

  • @campbellmm
    @campbellmm Рік тому +1

    Great explanatory videos. I am bout to install the sumo springs on the rear. I already have double leaf springs, do you recommend installing the sumo spring with the one spacer or both spacers? Appreciate your advice. Thanks.

    • @nickharper6436
      @nickharper6436  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for the comments. Personally I didn’t want the bump stops to be permanently resting on the chassis so I only installed one spacer on mine. I think that way the combination of the leaf springs and SUMO springs work better together.

    • @campbellmm
      @campbellmm Рік тому

      @@nickharper6436 thanks for that.

  • @bennywootton1119
    @bennywootton1119 3 місяці тому +1

    Hi nick, have you changed anything at the front?

    • @nickharper6436
      @nickharper6436  2 місяці тому

      Hi I fitted Sumo springs to the front as well. Link here to the video:
      ua-cam.com/video/Dcx2SLjAu9c/v-deo.htmlsi=CoBZsLOCRPBETxIu

  • @regnbean67
    @regnbean67 Рік тому +1

    Hi Nick. Another great video. Thanks for posting. Any chance you can send a link to where you got them from? Thanks, Nick (have Subbed)

    • @nickharper6436
      @nickharper6436  Рік тому

      Nick thanks for the comments. The ones I got are all sold now but this company that I’ve linked below sell them. There are many others on eBay too.
      www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351864130840?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=Lkh6UpSISTa&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=pQNxKc9WTFO&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

  • @lynnebarkas6906
    @lynnebarkas6906 Рік тому +1

    Does this mean that Adria have not designed the suspension to take the load maximum load. I would be a bit disappointed.

    • @nickharper6436
      @nickharper6436  Рік тому

      The van as it comes from Adria is within tolerance but they are on the limit in my opinion. What I’ve done just improves the whole ride of the van. It’s not just Adria all campers are the same pretty much Lynne

  • @tomxrt2650
    @tomxrt2650 11 місяців тому +1

    Do you get bigger ground clearance by fitting the double leaf spring ? I’ve got a Fiat Ducato Camper and my towbar often scrapes on the ferry and over humps etc.

    • @nickharper6436
      @nickharper6436  11 місяців тому +1

      Hi yes it does raise the van about 2 inches so should make a difference and stop the tow bar scraping.

    • @tomxrt2650
      @tomxrt2650 11 місяців тому +1

      @@nickharper6436 Thanks Nick that’s great 👍🏻

  • @mickdunn5538
    @mickdunn5538 Рік тому +1

    Hi, by adding the double leaf springs is it a possibility to up-plate the van from the standard 3,500 to the higher weight as is on the maxi ducato from where the springs came ?

    • @nickharper6436
      @nickharper6436  Рік тому +1

      Hi Mick I believe you can although I don’t need to go down that route at the moment as it’s not needed for me personally. I think you can up-plate a 3.5 tonne van anyway to just below 4 tonne and that’s a paperwork exercise with nothing done physically to the van. If you contact a company that specialises in up-platting they will give you the latest gen.

    • @mickdunn5538
      @mickdunn5538 Рік тому +1

      @@nickharper6436 hi, cheers for that nick, i will check my local area for a specialist 👍

  • @ExpeditionDouglas
    @ExpeditionDouglas Рік тому +2

    What tyre size are you running? have up-plated?

    • @nickharper6436
      @nickharper6436  Рік тому +1

      Hi I’m on BFG 225/75R16. They are the same size as the originals that came with the van and no I haven’t up plated as I’m happy with 3500kg at the moment but the option is always there!

    • @peterdavies2922
      @peterdavies2922 10 місяців тому +1

      How would you go about upplating - is that a paper exercise or would you need an engineer involved?

    • @nickharper6436
      @nickharper6436  10 місяців тому +1

      Hi I think you can up-plate to 3.8 tonne as a paper exercise without Sumo and double leaf springs even

  • @Bloomy086241
    @Bloomy086241 Рік тому +1

    Hi Nick, did you ever consider having a rear air suspension fitted

    • @nickharper6436
      @nickharper6436  Рік тому +1

      Hi Yes I did but I’m happy with the sumo springs especially with the double leaf springs. It was cost initially that drove my decision!

    • @Bloomy086241
      @Bloomy086241 Рік тому +1

      @@nickharper6436 Thank you Nick for your quick reply

  • @MaseratiA6GCM250
    @MaseratiA6GCM250 Рік тому

    Do you know if the shock absorber is the same on the Maxi and do you think its worth upgrading as well?

    • @nickharper6436
      @nickharper6436  Рік тому +1

      They are worth upgrading the shocks but that’s a bigger job as you have to go in behind the dash to get to the top of the struts. It would make an improvement though! Bilstien are supposed to be good.

  • @nirwin
    @nirwin 10 місяців тому

    What does your van weigh in total?

  • @anthonyoconnell9389
    @anthonyoconnell9389 Рік тому

    Where are you based and do you work from home

    • @nickharper6436
      @nickharper6436  Рік тому

      Hi I’m based in Norfolk and only occasionally work from home these days

  • @gordonhagan1553
    @gordonhagan1553 Рік тому

    Why after sumo springs ?

    • @nickharper6436
      @nickharper6436  Рік тому

      Gordon the van was still testing on the Sumo’s and as I had the option of a second hand double leaf spring I thought I’d try them. It just raises the van about an inch and gives a bit more clearance and the weight is supported by the two points on the leafs as well as the sumo springs and not totally on them. The ride is a little better but the Sumos made the most noticeable difference.

  • @brianedge1868
    @brianedge1868 Рік тому

    Before and after pictures are missing, frustrating!

    • @nickharper6436
      @nickharper6436  Рік тому

      Morning Brian sorry the video wasn’t what you expected

    • @georgesdesk
      @georgesdesk Рік тому +1

      @@nickharper6436 Would have made a better video, been more informative and helpful, which results in better views and likes for your channel, which so far I enjoy 😎

    • @nickharper6436
      @nickharper6436  Рік тому

      Thanks for the comments George