This info is good and all, but you also need to make sure the chipset is compatible with the CPU you’re looking to get, not just the socket. For example, I’m pretty sure Intel used 1150 and 1151 over several iterations of motherboards that had incompatible chipsets (although, I could be wrong on this) and AM4 500 series motherboards were not (at least initially) compatible with older AM4 CPUs. TLDR: I (personally) think it’s easier to say you should pay attention to the chipsets than the socket.
@@edgelord3428 The key word in your reply is “usually”, which means “not always”. Also, some motherboards require a compatible CPU installed before you can even consider updating it. This all ties into my original comment that a potential buyer needs to make sure the chipset is compatible with the CPU they’re interested in using. Also, to my prove my point about making sure the chipset works, we can look at Intel LGA 1151. It was introduced in 2015, and was used until 2020. But, as we know, Intel motherboards only supported 2 generations of CPU (at most) in recent years. An LGA 1151 motherboard from 2015 work with Skylake (2015) and Kabylake (2016) 1151 CPUs, but will not work with Coffelake CPUs from 2017 and newer (even though it’s still an LGA 1151 socket).
@@ShadyHero From what I was reading, there are two different iterations of LGA 1151. That’s why Skylake, Kaby Lake, and Coffee Lake are all 1151 lines, but Sky/Kaby Lake are incompatible with Coffee Lake. From my understanding, they’re physically compatible, but electrically incompatible.
For AMD, always get the B_50. Try to avoid the A_20 boards, they're entry level and that's why you usually see them being sold in bundles with mid tier cpu's.
Unless you live in a third world country where every cent counts, so for example an Asus A320M-K can handle a Ryzen 5 5600X, a graphics card and has 1 PCIe X1 slot for say WiFi.
I have an a320m msi board which severely limite overclocking on my r3 3200g but apparently my bios version supports r5 5600g so I'm saving up for that.
my parents got me a prebuilt years ago and now that ive upgraded basically everything the only downside to the pc is its still am4 and it has the gigabyte ax370m that it came w
@@BillyRazOr2011 and that's the only "confusing" name from AMD in the desktop segment. And has only been a bit more confusing on laptop cpu name numberings. Try intel, K KS KF F. You still have pentium chips too. And they've been doing that for a way longer time. Not to mention the laptop segment too like i7-1260p? i5-13420H? U-series too for the ultra low power chips. Like wtf? All in all, AMD's naming system is still way simpler than Intel.
@MarcsSpark I didn't buy them separately for one, and it's a LOT cheaper to get a new motherboard than a high end CPU... It was advertised as as regular 13900K and I got a free upgrade too. Not exactly something to complain about.
This is why PC part picker is such an invaluable resource for me. It takes the guesswork out of the entire process and allows me to truly focus on the end result
There's one more thing to keep in mind: the Ryzen 1st and 2nd gen processors do not work (well) with chipsets made for the 3rd gen, even though they are AM4. Now, I know it's quite unlikely that people will want to be buying a 2700x in 2023, but if you do have a 2000 series Ryzen and just need a mobo replacement or something, you certainly don't wanna make the mistake of buying a B550 that you (almost) can't use.
I love how stupid simple it is to tell what socket, what brand of cpu, and get an idea of how good/premium a motherboard is based on what the chipset is.
One thing I also look out for is if the amount of vrm phases matches with the amount of cores on the cpu, but I think that's just me being extra careful.
Yeah that'd be massively overkill. 16 cores can run on 4 phase boards. You just need to have good ventilation and avoid running with PBO. (A320 and a520 don't allow it anyway).
@@jamegumb7298 Sounds like something you'd see on a mid 2000s website about pokemon cheats more than a real thing. If this were an issue it'd be well documented in videos.
So I’m building my first pc in a week or to which one would be good to go with the 5 5600x so I get the massage pls type in reply also big fan of the Channel man👍
Also with ryzen board an a520, b550 or x570 only support 3rd gen ryzen chips and above meaning you can't put a 2nd gen ryzen or older, not even a bios update changes that
may have wanted to mention the lga1151 exception... used in 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th gen but your board will only supprt either 6th and 7th or 8th and 9th depending on chipset
I just built a whole new AM5 build and still have an AM4 build that’s not even 2 years old I keep for work but seeing how cheap these AM4 component’s have become it makes me want to build another AM4 and just go max everything….. I have a problem… A PC hobby is expensive enough alone but when you love building it almost more than using it then it’s really a problem.
I have been looking at building a new pc, and I found a mATX motherboard I plan to use, didnt know its a midrange one. The one im looking at is the “ASUS Prime B650M-A AX II”
Can you use an AMD stock cooler on an Intel mobo? I really like the aesthetics of the amd cooler but I want the performance of Intel so I can stream, game and edit with no problems
Zack I have started building my first pc. The pc turns on but there is a red light on the mother board and the cpu cooler spins but nothing else happens. Do you have any advice.
Here's a tip for computer assembly beginners. 1.) Look for a pre-built that's around your budget. 2.) Match your parts to that build and study the parts if they're compatible or not, always look at the "compatibility" section of the parts. 3.) See if your build is over or under your budget and make adjustments. 4.) Scrap your entire idea of building your own PC and buy a pre-built anyway because most pre-built companies these days offer good warranty and coverage.
@@Valigarmanda You know what's funny? I bought a pre-built 3 years ago and they mismatched my parts so I ended up having to spend more money shipping the rig back again lol. They did cover the cost afterwards though, but man was it a waste of time.
Important aside: older generations used the same socket, with incompatible configurations. If your using older hardware don’t think that the same socket means it will work. Hopefully they never do that again.
hey, i got a fat check this month and was looking to get a monstreous gpu, i can get a 3090 used for 700 euros or an rx7900xt new for 800, i only got a r5 3600 but plan to upgrade it in the future to a 5800x3d but for my use case i don't think i care that much since i play on a 4k tv and occasionally some apex and battlfield on a 1080p monitor. which gpu do you suggest ?
all i need is locked 60fps at 4k something my rx6700 is struggling to keep, for other games i don-t care as long as i get 144+ fps at 1440p.@@BillyRazOr2011
14th gen is also supported with a bios update
14th gen... oh 13.5th gen 😂
@@SpoonHurlerYou mean 13.2 gen? The .2 is the fact they’re 2x as expensive
@@SpoonHurler13.0001 gen
@@SpoonHurler 😂more like 13.2 gen
@@SpoonHurler😂
*Me watching this video after messing up my combo👁️👄👁️*
😢😮
For real brother?
is it fixed now??
@@SeaMen818 nah i still have the cpu and i will try to sell it
@@Foottube710 haha nice 👍
B#50 is the minimum supported chipset for overlooking on amd, x#70 gives advanced features like lane bifurcation or lane switching
it's B550 and X570
B650 and X670 for AM5
the is also the a520 and a620 but they arent as good
@@ninjastar4076 The # is to take the place of the hundred, as it's a generational marker
@@edgelord3428 Are A520 and A620 unlocked for overclocking? I thought that all A#20 motherboards were locked down
@@pancakewafflesThey are. Only bx50 and Xx70 support CPU overclocking. Amd Ax20 mobos only support ram / xmp/ expo overclocking. Hope that helped. 😊😊
This 1mim short helped me more than 10min videos
Ty bro, now I'm that I have a mid range mobo 🙂
Best choice 😂
Me still in entery bugget no gpu🎉
@@ahusheva3522I recommend having cheap gpu if you want to play something because if u have integrated gpu then your cpu will over heat
@@youngskiczuyeah idk about gpu but i use a gtx 760 runs good so might use that for a build in the futhure
im using gt 1030 right now but in some time i think i'll upgrade to 1050ti or rx 580@@leechanyeong409
I cant express how useful this shorts was. I was so confused before watching this
This info is good and all, but you also need to make sure the chipset is compatible with the CPU you’re looking to get, not just the socket. For example, I’m pretty sure Intel used 1150 and 1151 over several iterations of motherboards that had incompatible chipsets (although, I could be wrong on this) and AM4 500 series motherboards were not (at least initially) compatible with older AM4 CPUs.
TLDR: I (personally) think it’s easier to say you should pay attention to the chipsets than the socket.
usually the chipset supports with bios update
@@edgelord3428 The key word in your reply is “usually”, which means “not always”. Also, some motherboards require a compatible CPU installed before you can even consider updating it. This all ties into my original comment that a potential buyer needs to make sure the chipset is compatible with the CPU they’re interested in using.
Also, to my prove my point about making sure the chipset works, we can look at Intel LGA 1151. It was introduced in 2015, and was used until 2020. But, as we know, Intel motherboards only supported 2 generations of CPU (at most) in recent years. An LGA 1151 motherboard from 2015 work with Skylake (2015) and Kabylake (2016) 1151 CPUs, but will not work with Coffelake CPUs from 2017 and newer (even though it’s still an LGA 1151 socket).
incompatible pin layouts too, the only compatible pin layouts for 1151 as far as I know are 8th and 9th gen. 6th and 7th are incompatible
@@ShadyHero From what I was reading, there are two different iterations of LGA 1151. That’s why Skylake, Kaby Lake, and Coffee Lake are all 1151 lines, but Sky/Kaby Lake are incompatible with Coffee Lake. From my understanding, they’re physically compatible, but electrically incompatible.
@@StolenJoker84 yes there's 1151v1 and 1151v2
bro is so chill in this video
For AMD, always get the B_50. Try to avoid the A_20 boards, they're entry level and that's why you usually see them being sold in bundles with mid tier cpu's.
Unless you live in a third world country where every cent counts, so for example an Asus A320M-K can handle a Ryzen 5 5600X, a graphics card and has 1 PCIe X1 slot for say WiFi.
@@irvingescobar737building pcs is a costly process so most tech channels and companies will just try to win the market that makes them the most 💲
I have an a320m msi board which severely limite overclocking on my r3 3200g but apparently my bios version supports r5 5600g so I'm saving up for that.
my parents got me a prebuilt years ago and now that ive upgraded basically everything the only downside to the pc is its still am4 and it has the gigabyte ax370m that it came w
i have a hp motherboard, will it work with ryzen 5 5600X
Thank you I have been looking for a good motherboard guide
There are also H series intel motherboards and they're the entry level for intel its like amd's A series motherboards
LGA1151 is an exception, 6th/7th gen go with 1xx/2xx chipsets and 8th-9th need 3xx chipsets
yes but it's 1151 and 1151v2
@@MarcsSparkit is just LGA 1151
*Intel always confuses me*
Everything about their naming system is 😂
All brands of name gives confused
@@BillyRazOr2011 yeh but AMD namings are more straight forward for the most part.
@@hadifelani Problem was they didn't know what kind of X and X3D does. Not all people could understand AMD, Intel also a bit confused indeed.
@@BillyRazOr2011 and that's the only "confusing" name from AMD in the desktop segment. And has only been a bit more confusing on laptop cpu name numberings.
Try intel, K KS KF F. You still have pentium chips too. And they've been doing that for a way longer time. Not to mention the laptop segment too like i7-1260p? i5-13420H? U-series too for the ultra low power chips. Like wtf?
All in all, AMD's naming system is still way simpler than Intel.
I've got an i9 13900KF running great in a "mid range" B660M A WiFi motherboard...
why did you get a K sku on a B series board. Might have just get the non K and save some money.
@@MarcsSpark Because the board is blacked out color and a mini form factor that saves space for my case.
@Johnny_C137 yes but you should have got the 13900 non k
@MarcsSpark I didn't buy them separately for one, and it's a LOT cheaper to get a new motherboard than a high end CPU...
It was advertised as as regular 13900K and I got a free upgrade too. Not exactly something to complain about.
@@Johnny_C137the 13900KF is worse than the 13900K. it is the same chip but with graphics output, which makes them about $20-30 cheaper
This video helped ALOT since I don't know anything about building a pc
This is why PC part picker is such an invaluable resource for me. It takes the guesswork out of the entire process and allows me to truly focus on the end result
This is the information I needed
Thank man i needed the info badly best tech youtuber ever
In text form:
Z-700 = LGA 1700 newest boards
Z-600 = LGA 1700 12th gen board release
X-770 = AM5 AMD Newest boards
X-690 AM5 Release boards
X-570AM4 = Highest AM4
B-550 = AM4 Mid
There's one more thing to keep in mind: the Ryzen 1st and 2nd gen processors do not work (well) with chipsets made for the 3rd gen, even though they are AM4.
Now, I know it's quite unlikely that people will want to be buying a 2700x in 2023, but if you do have a 2000 series Ryzen and just need a mobo replacement or something, you certainly don't wanna make the mistake of buying a B550 that you (almost) can't use.
I love how stupid simple it is to tell what socket, what brand of cpu, and get an idea of how good/premium a motherboard is based on what the chipset is.
Fantastic explanation
Bro u sound sick
One thing I also look out for is if the amount of vrm phases matches with the amount of cores on the cpu, but I think that's just me being extra careful.
Yeah that'd be massively overkill. 16 cores can run on 4 phase boards. You just need to have good ventilation and avoid running with PBO. (A320 and a520 don't allow it anyway).
@@skorpers _Can_ run but do not do well with transients making the system feel sluggish a lot of the time (when cpu not under constant load).
@@jamegumb7298 That's never happened any time that I've tested it. That sounds like an entirely separate issue.
@@skorpers It is a known thing. You need a bit of oomph to ramp up really really fast.
@@jamegumb7298 Sounds like something you'd see on a mid 2000s website about pokemon cheats more than a real thing.
If this were an issue it'd be well documented in videos.
Im Left with more questions then answers💀
Me having to watch this and take notes like in class
rewatch this video boss man heck no im saving it forever lmaoooo also watching
igot the b650 board . its amazing cant lie !
I think they should put tow sockets that you cen put on the mother bord so you have more options
that would not work. having to wire both socket would cause too much signal degradation.
thanks zach,
Bro H series like basic H610
Bro just pulled up the motherboard I'm getting
Hey so you’re 100% incorrect the B650 is AMD. AM5 specifically.
He sais B660, not B650
And lower side damn it I thought it was good dang it man now I upgrade it fuckkkkk that’s not gonna be cheap
Could you please do a video explaining pros and cons of going with a higher tier motherboard over the midrange and vice versa
Love you bro
Prime Z-790 is the best Mobo under $300
You have Bluetooth 5.3
Wifi 6E
3 thunderbolt port
128GB Ram support
GEN 12&13 supported.
Much money =more good, more simple
Here before this blows up😊😅
It all did make sense.. for the first time in my life😢
So I’m building my first pc in a week or to which one would be good to go with the 5 5600x so I get the massage pls type in reply also big fan of the Channel man👍
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Ty bro
Also with ryzen board an a520, b550 or x570 only support 3rd gen ryzen chips and above meaning you can't put a 2nd gen ryzen or older, not even a bios update changes that
Will you cover the new amd epyc 4004 series?
Imagine me clicking this video and this guy is speaking gibberish
But socket it is mandatory to match. Chipset it will work on any, but you will get better performance from a hight end cpu on a higher end motherboard
may have wanted to mention the lga1151 exception... used in 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th gen but your board will only supprt either 6th and 7th or 8th and 9th depending on chipset
I just built a whole new AM5 build and still have an AM4 build that’s not even 2 years old I keep for work but seeing how cheap these AM4 component’s have become it makes me want to build another AM4 and just go max everything….. I have a problem… A PC hobby is expensive enough alone but when you love building it almost more than using it then it’s really a problem.
LGA means Land Grid array 1700 pins.
Tip: use pcpartpicker
thanks lol i got confused by the x-chipset being Intel's
intel does use X for their HEDT platform (X#9 and X#99)
yeah thanks for the explanation, but quick question how did you know I was going to watch this video a few times?
Hey please full tutorial how to spray paint AMD CPU cooler.
just buy a better ventirad
@@lonedri2890 what ?
@@RokoPavic-qc8pi just buy a better cpu cooler, thermalright make cheap one and they are very effective + you would get rgb fan
the z690 and z790 chipset is also best for i9's 12th gen to 14th gen
I have an Intel i7 7700 and a GTX 1050 ti will there ther be a bottle neck. What is the first thing I should upgrade
I have been looking at building a new pc, and I found a mATX motherboard I plan to use, didnt know its a midrange one. The one im looking at is the “ASUS Prime B650M-A AX II”
Am5 is gunna be around for a couple of years, lga1700 will maybe go one more gen and its over
Can you use an AMD stock cooler on an Intel mobo? I really like the aesthetics of the amd cooler but I want the performance of Intel so I can stream, game and edit with no problems
No you can’t
What cpu gpu combos would you recommend for a pc meant for both video editing and gaming?
BRO THE AM4 BOARD HE SHOWED IS LITERALLKY MY MOTHERBOARD
Zack I have started building my first pc. The pc turns on but there is a red light on the mother board and the cpu cooler spins but nothing else happens. Do you have any advice.
What's your best graphics card recommendation for a ryzen 5 4600g
6600 XT, basically the best budget GPU
There's also H#10 for intel budget MOBOs
Bro forgot H#10
thank you.
I have an Intel H610 chipset, for anyone wondering, it’s basically a slightly cheaper B#60
I am going to build a pc with ryzen 7 5800x and rx 6700xt which motherboard should i use for cheap and budget build?
Zx70 and Bx50 used to be intel's scheme but from B350 and Z370 upwards it was taken by AMD
Ummmm, it's X370, not Z.
the only time intel used B#50 was B250 they then switched to B#60 and amd uses X not Z
Rip I got an A620 didn’t wish this came out 2 weeks ago..😢
Bro I got a520m k v2, but what can I say, It's working good.
İ9 12900K with MSI MPG Z690 Edge ddr5 wifi6 and MSI 3080 12GB ventus
Here's a tip for computer assembly beginners.
1.) Look for a pre-built that's around your budget.
2.) Match your parts to that build and study the parts if they're compatible or not, always look at the "compatibility" section of the parts.
3.) See if your build is over or under your budget and make adjustments.
4.) Scrap your entire idea of building your own PC and buy a pre-built anyway because most pre-built companies these days offer good warranty and coverage.
and you're less likely to get a botched gpu in a prebuilt, just stay away from proprietaries. those are a pain.
@@Valigarmanda You know what's funny? I bought a pre-built 3 years ago and they mismatched my parts so I ended up having to spend more money shipping the rig back again lol. They did cover the cost afterwards though, but man was it a waste of time.
Also, just use PC part picker, it'll tell you if the motherboard you selected is incompatible
Looking at building a streaming pc, not going all out but plan on getting a r7 7800x3d. Real question, is ASROCK a good Brand for Mother Boards?
Important aside: older generations used the same socket, with incompatible configurations. If your using older hardware don’t think that the same socket means it will work. Hopefully they never do that again.
From your experience could you please tell me which combination/configuration is best for rtx 4080 ?
i picked the aero g fro my i5 13600k bcs it is pretty
What gpu would you recommend for my build, its an R7 5800x 32gb ram and an 850w psu
Does Chipset matter for GPUs as well? Like budget Chipset not being suitable for mid-range GPUs?
Favorite gpus
Bro forget h#10 series
hey, i got a fat check this month and was looking to get a monstreous gpu, i can get a 3090 used for 700 euros or an rx7900xt new for 800, i only got a r5 3600 but plan to upgrade it in the future to a 5800x3d but for my use case i don't think i care that much since i play on a 4k tv and occasionally some apex and battlfield on a 1080p monitor.
which gpu do you suggest ?
The 7900xt is better
RTX 4060 or RX 7600, perfect for 1080p.
7900XT with 5800x3d still OK, but it would getting a bit bottleneck, I suggested you to choose mid-tier GPU as well. Such as 4070Ti or 7800XT.
all i need is locked 60fps at 4k something my rx6700 is struggling to keep, for other games i don-t care as long as i get 144+ fps at 1440p.@@BillyRazOr2011
bro almost made me put 3rd gen cpu on 2nd gen only motherboard 😭😭😭
Mine is i5 2nd gen with integrated graphics
You'll need a bios update if you messed up
I use a b450 steel legend with Ryzen 5 5600g
Can you make a 1k budget pc with a ddr5 motherboard?
What do you mean by high mid and low cnipset end in the other half of the video.Also what is a chipset/what does it do
Whats the best budget gpu to pair with a ryzen 5 5500?
What would you recommend the rx 7600 or the rx 6650xt
Intel also has H#10 for low end and H#70 for workstations
he did mentioned those
Goodle is your best friend 👍
Good motherboard for ryzen 5 5600 with wifi and BT?
Intel also has h*10 and h*70 as low end options
Does the PCI-Express slot on the motherboard matter ?
LGA 1150 with a i5 and GTX970 still slaying noobs in 2024 at CSS and at EH ZM CSS server even when steam says my os wont work lol.
I'm sure the guy who wrote that did not mean what processor goes with what motherboard, He meant what's the best pair for the best performance?
Also h610
What motherboard goes well with a Ryzen 5 7600x? Ik probably a b650 mobo but I don’t know which exact type, I was thinking a Msi mag tomahawk
It's all good until you decide to build something with an LGA 1151 CPU