how is that scary?? 2022 - 2006 = 16??? and mouse is 15, as she said. very confused unless i missed something saying the show was in 2010, because the flashback was in 2000 and then a card appeared saying that it is 22 years later??
I’m dying, Mike saying “so I guess some spoilers for the original series” while sitting in front of wall which literally labels who is dead and who is A.
LOL GREAT POINT 😄😄😄 But seriously I’ve watched all of PLL and Mike’s videos several times and I still have no idea what happened. What happened? “ELLO SPENCE-AH!”
@@kilgore_trout_37 I know the accent was bad (even Dame Troian Bellisario can't be perfect), but not to the point of hearing "ello spence-ah" instead of the iconically infamous "' 'ello sistah" ! 😂
HBO better give you a FAT FUCKING CHECK because I literally just binge watched the entire series in less than 24 hours JUST so I could watch this explanation and follow along. I hated most of it and the characters but I did it for YOU 😭
Sameeee and i KNOW mike was fighting for his life to not to make fun of some of the dialogues like Tabby we know you like movies you can stop with the 20 references in 1 minute of screen time pls
@@paularep DUDE YES!!! Every time she said a movie title I rolled my eyes like WE GET IT IT'S THE ONLY PERSONALITY TRAIT THE WRITERS COULD COME UP WITH FOR YOU DAMN lmaoo
I know one of the biggest criticisms of this show is the reveals being figured out too easily but it was honestly so refreshing. The one thing I hated about the original PLL is after the first A all of a sudden you would get these random as hell A’s who are completely irrelevant. Remember Spencer’s random twin that came out of no where in the last season? I love that this show hid A but still lead us on the journey to figuring it out and making sense. Also helps with rewatch value
Think the big big reveal of the season, the A reveal, wasn't that easily guessed tho so there's that at least. STOP READING NOW THOSE WHO DO NOT WISH TO BE SPOILED, but out of all the theories I saw, NONE of them were guessing fuckimg Clanton, like-? It made sense too at least. Someone who's been involved in the plot but not too much so the audience didn't suspect them, his position as principal gave him a lot of opportunities to do what he did, solid motive. It was out of nowhere for me, but the good kind of out of nowhere. I pray that they don't go the route they did with the original show with the new A not making much sense. With Clanton captured and locked up, Archie on the run, Rose Water's status unknown, there could be more people related to Angela that would take over the game since the mom's weren't exactly punished.
I have to agree. I mean it’s just fun to do the whodunnit. And its better if the reveal actually makes sense and has been built up rather than just being info dumped with characters who didn’t exist five episodes ago or weren’t even hinted towards. Even with plot twists. They shouldn’t be twists for the sake of being a twist, it should be shocking but in a manner where you then remember and realize that yes that actually was hinted here or foreshadowed there. And that should be the goal.
can we talk about how mouse “playing pretend” daddy- daughter with a grown man was just not addressed like why was she doing that why was that needed????🤔
Right?! Like it didn’t even relate to the thing with A at all and just ended with no real consequences for her or the dude? Maybe they’ll talk about it in season 2 but I probs won’t watch it because the writing was awful
RIGHT?????? they just brushed it off as like "oh, she was missing a father" and "now she values her #irl" or something, and I'm here like!!! This girl is a hazard to herself!!! everything she did from meeting up random ass adults who are more or less messed up all the way to knocking on the door of her supposed father who tried to kidnap her when she was a kid (doesn't matter he's her dad, it's still kidnapping), all of it was just screaming "miss girl will get herself kill*d"
I was watching this show while unpacking from a move and I thought I missed an episode and went back but no it was just not really talked about. Marlene has her reasons…..
Mike, expectantly: "Do you see where this is going??" Me, having never seen anything PLL related except for his videos and already lost: "Absolutely, that's wild babes."
I got the biggest jumpscare of my life when they went to 'Ezra's books' in Rosewood, I don't want to see that man again Update: screaming ,shaking, crying, throwing up and suing marlene king for that cursed finale
chip being the SAer is horrifying but makes SO much sense..when he was telling imogen he was a loser who watches weird movies in his basement and has a mad crush on his friend who's not interested i was getting serious incel vibes AND he went with imogen to the clinic and pretended to be the baby's father!!! gooped.
In episode 4 when Tabby is explaining to Greg the context behind the scene they're filming for her project, Tabby brings up that maybe Faran's character slipped something into his wine and the camera focuses in on Chip and he looks guilty as hell
@@emilia.ailime i noticed this too!! i found it so odd that it HAS to mean something. his face screaammmed guilty. chip seems so sweet, but that's what's more alarming to me. sometimes "nice guys" are the worst.
“I could drain the pasta” I have laughed out loud and clapped so many times. This is brilliant. And I’m dying for you to see episodes 8,9 and 10. We love you
i can’t BELIEVE you made Marlene King STEP on my NECK for ANOTHER 10 episodes!!! HBO Max if you’re reading, this video literally made me watch an entire season!!!!
I’m shocked that Mike didn’t just have a whole segment on the girls’ AMAZING Halloween costumes. Imogen as Rosemary from Rosemary’s Baby at least needed a mention
@@CarmenTomate people who comment on specific threads when they clearly intended to make a general comment under the video are such a powerful vibe. Like slay girl. Tell us your take. Make us listen even though we weren’t talking to you. What a flex
I saw a meme on the original sin subreddit that was taken from the scene where Imogen is deciding on going to rosewood, and the meme said " It's November, do you want to be pregnant forever " gold.
I have not seen this show but I am 100% sure that Mouse is either older than she thinks she is, or there was another Mouse before her that did actually get child-snatched and then her moms adopted a replacement or at least something along those lines
ooh i love this theory! when she said “i just want to be a normal 15 year old” i was sooo taken aback. i hope this theory plays out bc i think that would be sooo interesting
Ooo, love this theory. An evolution on it is that maybe she was successfully kidnapped but has repressed those memories? It would explain why her mom is so batsh*t about everything and why she was in the support group.
@@Xxbaesiaa damn i was thinking only a few years but that would be some crazy reverse orphan shit 😭 honestly i feel like that could be cool if they do it right
The ONE thing that bothered me the MOST about this whole series is that Millwood is supposedly pretty close to Rosewood (since I and T could drive there) and they mentioned Radley (the hotel) and Aria and Erza were hinted at (or name dropped?) but the girls didn't mention the OG A???? Like "hey do you guys remember some years ago when a group of teenagers in Rosewood got texts from someone called A and it turned out it was a classmate of theirs? Yeah, when one of the girls were presumed dead for like 3 years? And theeeen they got kidnapped a few years later by another A that turned out to be the sister of the girl that was presumed dead? Huh, strange that that happened, that A was such a big thing that happened to them and now someone is doing something simillar to us. Like REALLY?? NOT ONE MENTION OF THE OG GIRLS and their A???
i think its a different universe where the location and characters of the og exist but the storyline and events do not just so they can make references to it for the og fans
@@ladieslovecj Honestly, I doubt that's the case because if it was, then they'd try to seperate the two shows more, not include Radley or Aria/Ezra. I sort of like the idea of of them being in the same universe, but I think it ended up very half-arsed and lazy. I don't mind a reboot but if it is in the same universe they should've at least mentioned the OG A situation.
@@moanystrom3531 i mean by that logic then its in the same universe as riverdale and sabrina, i think the main writer just likes to reference things lol but im not entirely sure we'll have to see in s2, you def could be right ! thats just how i rationalised it lol
I think in the other spin-off, The Perfectionists, Alison and Mona mention that since they were minors at the time, the records around A and what they went through are sealed, so maybe they’re using that logic to explain it.
I'm not usually one for corporate shilling (or leaving comments... ever) but I've gotta say, it feels pretty good knowing there's a social media manager at HBO that knows their audience. Not just know, but like... KNOW. Congratulations Michael on this Galactic Slay™️
Me finding out "to thine own self be true" is actually originally from Hamlet and not from Barbie Princess and the Pauper The Cats Meow was slightly devastating. I really thought they'd chucked in a really niche barbie reference.
I would just like HBO max to be aware that I was not going to watch PLL until this video convinced me to give it a go and i love it and have binged all 7 thank you mike (p.s the way you've drawn the connection map makes it look like imogen's baby is A, which is a theory i support)
he didn't turn around and start doping. he already was doping for football. it wasn't out of no where and it makes perfect sense that he blew up like that because steroids can do that to you
One other thing of note: The letter left for Elodie which said "Meet me in the HAll of Mirrors" - the A in Hall is NOT written in red marker. Every other letter and message from A has emphasized any A that appears in the message. Elodie's letter does not. I also think it's interesting how the parents are getting the brunt of the targeting and our main cast seems to be protected more than anything. I think this goes deeper than just someone wanting to avenge Angela. Perhaps what caused Angela to be an outcast in the first place was cruel or mean behavior that was encouraged by Angela's mom. I think "A" wants to get rid of bad parents more so than get revenge. A sees the main cast as good people but sees their moms as being corrupting influences.
yeah I kinda thought after Karen’s death that the “one bully dead” was actually talking about Davie; I feel like the other “five” could be the other liars’ moms and sheriff beasley..? idk for sure bc I’m only on episode 3 tho😭
@@pintobears (spoilers for 6 or 7 i think i've just watched this video) i feel like the last of the 'other 5' is also the same person as the 6th one to sign into Radley
@@jabarishabazz5928 if u noticed tho imogens mom was blonde as a teen and imogen is blonde as well so that’s probably why.. but also they don’t look that alike
Holy shit, what if mouses mom planned to keep her all along so that she could be pregnant with the besties without having sex with some guy and also without paying a shit ton of money to do ivf
So, the question has been raised multiple times about why A cares about karen and kelly. I think this has to mean that they have another connection to the events of 1999. Perhaps Sheriff Beasley had some link to Angela, I'm thinking he was the person who assaulted her
But then this raises another question for me, which is why does A/Leatherface seem to care more about karen than kelly? The person who was pushed at the dance was pushed because they were assumed to be karen. But when we start wondering if karen and kelly are actually switched, A goes after kelly but leaves her alone until she insists she's actually kelly. So we're under the assumption that A wants to harm Karen, but not kelly. If them being targeted because of something their parents had done relating to the events of 1999, why only focus on one of their children?
@@elenao.804 I was thinking along the same lines my theory is they go after people violently only when they see bully or creep behavior. The rest of the time they just sort of chase them.
honestly, the most shocking thing that happened during the series was when Eddie mentioned Riverdale and the Sisters of Quiet Mercy like my jaw was on the floor
this had me absolutely gagged because it means chilling adventures of sabrina is in the same universe as the ORIGINAL pll. like witches and the dark lord exist a single state away from the og liars
Istg if it turns out Karen's alive and she's working with Kelly to torture the liars because of some secret relationship they had with the girl who k1ll3d herself...that would be top tier PLL
I've had my eye on chip for the longest time cause I DO NOT trust a man that nice who is always called the nice guy and who now all of a sudden likes Imogen after already liking Tabby. Also, as a PLL vet as well, I quite simply trust no one and nothing.
Literally, the minute he started talking to imogen I had to pause and take a breath. I didn’t want to believe it and I was rooting for him for as long as I could. But once he made a connection to both girls after they thought they were r worded by the same guy ? Yeah I was like no no no pls no. There’s only like two uncrusty men left, I don’t trust Shawn too much anymore. He’s going to have to relearn that in season two, he just put me off so much at the end idk. And I’m lowkey rooting for leather face 👀. Like at the beginning he was killing all the ppl who sucked and were looking at the girls weird yk. And the finale gives me hope, I feel he could get some type of redemption cause he’s defiantly been through some shit and I think deserves some justice for what was down to him. Anyway lmao
yeah. people say that they 'could listen to someone read the dictionary and be entertained' and like i see where they are coming from but mike could put even LESS effort in and id still be here. but he puts the most effort and idk how im surviving it
Speaking of horror/thriller references, I love the connection between Faran’s storyline with performing Swan Lake and struggling with her mother putting unrealistic expectations of perfection on her, and the movie Black Swan that also deals with some similar themes. Even if it wasn’t intended that way, I think it’s a really cool reference
idk if u know this mike however i feel it is essential info, madame giry is the name of a character (a ballet instructor) in the phantom of the opera who helps the phantom access christine (the girl who he stalks) and she keeps his location/identity a secret
I both cannot believe the PLL wall is still up and yet I am nowhere near surprised. I love it. TBH, if it was available as a poster (merch?…….) I would probably buy it.
iirc a lot of the photos are copyrighted by the show and/or the photographers so i think he would need licensing from PLL in order to sell any merch of the wall
I think it's interesting that Leatherface most often kills people who the Liars would have motive to get rid of. I feel like he's setting it up to frame them as a way to get back at their moms for whatever happened at the Y2K party, and the way he's making sure the moms know it's payback is he's reminding all of them of the party and dropping all these clues. I also think it's a Scream situation and there's definitely two killers, two As.
and they just straight up threw that oportunity out. its almost like they gave what the fans wanted on the "aesthetics" and overall vibes and smaller plots of the show, but when it came to the A reveal they pulled a Riverdale and got a ranodm character to be the mastermind and a Chic kind of guy to be the gargoyle monter idk im pissed
i think it’s bc he wanted to punish bullies. i finished the series and tho i don’t think it was stated outright but leatherfsce wanted to punish bullies and i think that’s why leatherfsce killed the people who were bullying the liars
@@lizzyizzywizzy leatherface was def punishing bullies but it could be possible that he also did it to eventually frame the girls to punish the mothers as well
I don't know where else to put that theory, because I waited the whole season and it didn't happen. But! I still firmly believe that Wes is Ezra's brother Wes! The age, the looks. The desire of involvment with a younger woman lower on a vertical of power. Many people noticed that Wes and Tabby here is a modern more honest re-telling of Aria/Ezra story, but could this be because of their relation?
the way i was like “ugh ok i’ll go watch the show before watching this vid” and i binged the whole season in 24 hours.. they did what needed to be done!
Madame Giry is a reference to The Phantom of the Opera. In the musical, Madame Giry is Christine’s ballet teacher, and an ally of the Phantom’s as well… could just be an Easter egg, but it could hint at something more, seeing as A is a masked individual… 👀
I’ve definitely been getting vibes that Chip was the one who assaulted Tabby. I also am curious about Karen and Kelly’s mom, I think she’s the only other mom we have met so far, like what was SHE doing in the 90s?? Why are K and K involved with A now? Just because Karen was awful to them? Seems weak to me.
Apparently Karen was mean to them cause Imogen was accused of kissing Karen’s boyfriend, Noa and Mouse both said they wouldn’t vote for her and called her a fake Barbie bitch Tabby openly supported Imogen and Farrah got the black swan part that Karen wanted and Kelly is just the evil minion to Karen’s plan
@@DarkSister535 honestly so true she’s the only other mom who is some how NOT related to the story Marlene is trying to pull a fast one on us I wouldn’t be surprised if she knew more but is afraid of her husband to do or say anything or if she was a close friend of Angela Waters and blames herself for her death in some way
madame giry being a reference to phantom of the opera which is all about a weird guy running around in a mask and killing people……they are so clever for that
One theory i have about Mouse and the weird date on her missing person poster: She said her moms "want her to stay a kid forever" so like what if she literally is ten years older than the other girls but because she still looks young her moms are passing her off as a student even though she's a full grown adult? Like probably not but imagine if that was the twist
I think "Kelly" is actually Karen. Karen knew about Scoliosis. Karen does that mouth open thing, and in the show they zoomed on her mouth when she did it. Karen also wears heals while Kelly wears flats. Also, I died a little inside when they mentioned Riverdale. Please don’t crossover. It’s too much.
I think it's also possible that she is Kelly trying to replicate Karen, because she's jealous of her sister. She's seen saying things like "I'm not enough" or "why can't I be talented" so I think she was jealous of Karen and felt like their parents and peers valued her more than they did Kelly. So now Kelly is trying to be more like Karen in an attempt to get all the attention her sister used to get.
Yes!! As soon as Kelly pretended to be Karen in the second (I think or first) episode to talk to the principal I immediately knew that probably meant it wasn’t the first time they’ve done some sort of switch like that. Also in the original pretty little liars books that happens with Alison and Courtney her twin who would like to pretend to be her.
I haven’t watched the show but I feel like it might be paralleling what Mouse is doing for those people? As in Kelly is pretending to be Karen for her mom.
I am not kidding, as soon as I heard Riverdale, I shouted, "Marlene, bestie, please don't do this. I can't do that 6 seasons of insanity to understand things in this universe."
My theory: Chip is A, ANGELAS BABY. Angela was a teen preggo (like our girlie Imogen). Sherriff Beasley is the person who assaulted Angela. Leatherface is Chips Uncle which is why they are working together. I feel like Chip assaulted Imogen and wanted to get her pregnant (like his mother was). The only way this works tho, is if Angela didnt actually die in the warehouse, but you know the PLLCU loves to pull a fake death moment. This would make Sherriff Beasley Chips father and the twins, his half sisters. This could explain why A is targeting the twins at all.
@@ia490 what can i say, im a huge og pll fan true and true. I feel like theyve already given so many nods to the og (twins for example) why not more deep family secrets, messy family trees and unhinged A’s trying to morbidly recreate what they lost
I feel like she has to be dead. If you'd pause on the scene where they show her body, her arm is broken in half and like sticking straight up with one half dangling down, and one of her legs is cut clean off, and she fell face down, no way a fetus would survive that.
@@audreybea4013 honestly this is more of a tinfoil hat theory. Thinking longer about it, dates wouldnt really match up but I feel like a secret pregnancy involved would be cool.
I love the plot so far but honestly when it comes to the writing, the show sucks. it's giving me twitter-esque conversations and that is sometimes ruining the viewing experience for me. 💀
finally someone else said it omg. the plot from episodes 2-9 were interesting and fun, but the writing ESPECIALLY in the first and last episodes was hard to listen to
@@kaydale3016 literally it seems like adults who don’t know how to write modern teenagers so they just assume kids these days talk like they do online “irl”
Honestly as much as I hate Ezria it does make sense😭Aria revealed fertility issues in the last (second last??) episode of PLL but I hope Ezra trips and unalives
@@paulapiwowarczyk4877 I think they'd be more likely to have their own kid. Aria was revealed to be infertile, and in the finale, she mentions that she and that nasty man were looking into adoption.
I don't think Chip is leatherface or A but In am genuinely concerned he's the guy who assaulted Tabby or Imogen, or both of them since they laid that groundwork. The subtle foreshadowing with him while they've been pushing the idea of it being one of the jocks so hard makes me uneasy, and I think him immediately calling himself the father at the adoption clinic was probably done on purpose.
Clocked pretty early on because of the "its always someone you know, but it showed/mentioned him going to the party with her a few episodes in. And he always seemed too good to be true, an act he put on especially when he said "I'm not boyfriend material" and the stunt he pulled filming her movie.
there’s def an A team, nothing gets done without those who pretend to be regular humans but are really psychopaths and also i miss the flop A texts for the old Liars
The fact that Mallory acted out the part of Kelly acting as Karen to the principal in such a fantastic way that it made the viewers doubt that it was Kelly rather than Karen even though she keeps saying that she is Karen, is absolutely oscar, grammy, emmy, nobel peace prize worthy. Also please no spoilers in the replies, I just finished episode 2. I haven't watched the full series yet.
i can’t believe you didn’t mentioned the most groundbreaking discovery made in episode 6 in which they talk about someone moving to Riverdale?!?!?! i was on the floor, does this mean its set in the same universe ? then its supernatural double confirmed with Caleb seeing ghosts and all but fr congrat on that sponsor i’ve been going between the show and your video, watching your recap of each chapter after i finished them, awesome video and i love your theories
Couldn't decide if I wanted to watch the show or not but the first 3 minutes alone have persuaded me to pause, go watch the 7 episodes, then come back in a few hours so I can fully appreciate the beauty of this video.
YESSS I HAVE BEEN LOVING THE SHOW SO FAR AND ABSOLUTELY LOVE THAT YOU GOT TO GO TO THE PREMIERE AND VISIT THE SETS!! It has been a while since I've gotten into a show that releases episodes WEEKLY so that I can go online to discuss it with people!! So excited for the last few episodes ♥
SPOILER FOR THE LAST EPISODE!! and a warning for talking about r*pe . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . can we talk about that moment where the girls send leather face after the rapist? the girlbossification of the rape revenge genre! legendary. also the portrayal of the rapist is extremely accurate sadly, the man who raped me was similar.
Fun fact I'm pretty sure Madam Giry the ballet instructor is a direct reference to the Phantom of the Opera - as there's a Madam Giry there as well who btw knows the secret identity of the Phantom and actually helps him... So maybe this Madam Giry has a link to A/leather face?
Without spoiling anything, but literally everything makes sense jn the end. The writers planned the show for 3 seasons so it won't be as feral as riverdale is
I agree that Sheriff Beasley def assaulted Angela! It would make sense why “Kelly” started getting A texts too, bc her dad was apart of the original sin. The only thing that doesn’t add up is that he’s obviously a bit fruity 💅🏼
after watching all the episodes i do have some stuff to say abt the A reveal so SPOILERS BELOW !!!!!!! DO NOT CLICK IF U HAVENT WATCHED ALL 10 EPISODES . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . i kinda like mike’s theory of wes being the mastermind behind A a little bit better than the actual reveal bc A. Wes is a freak and i feel like he would wanna scare tabby into his arms basically or blackmail her into getting closer w him, and if he knows abt Chip he would wanna punish him. B. while i think clanton was a good A bc he connects the timelines, the whole ‘dad not wanting to connect w their kids’ trope is getting RAMPANT in this series. C, having angela have a twin brother who we have heard NOTHING ABOUT at ALL from ANYONE (besides in the waters house where his height was on the doorframe) is soooo cliche, esp the whole ‘he’s deformed so no one knew about him’ like pack it up quasimodo we have seen this trope in a million things it’s not new and it’s degrading to ppl with deformities. ppl w facial deformities are not monsters they’re just people who didn’t develop physically like everyone else did bye. and physical deformities =/= mental incompetency and i somehow feel like this series is leaning toward that for archie. plus i hate that eddie name dropped riverdale as a town nearby and angela’s supposed brother’s name is archie it’s giving me the ick if there is a crossover i’m leaving. i’m also kinda mad we didn’t get to see archie’s face like for all we know clanton could have been lying abt who archie is so idk if i think lestherface is really angela’s supposed brother archie. unrelated, i think it’s weird to find out that davie really did s-word and wrote an A in blood on the wall. like why would she do that? to let the ‘99 liars know that A was back since it seems like they maybe dealt with A before? idk i’ll be interested to see how they explore A & the moms interactions more in s2. lastly i called it by ep 4 (? whichever was the female gaze one) that chip had been the one to assault tabby and maybe imogen as well but when he asked if he and imogen could pair up for the baby thing i knew immediately it was him bc he was being SO sus abt it. i knew from the start that there was something off w chip bc he was so clearly pining after tabby and was just being a freak abt it idk call it my intuition. but chips face when sidney came in and accused wes of r-wording tabby?? now that was beautiful we love to see an SA-er get scared 💛 if u read this long lmk if u agree or whateva i just needed to share my opinions and theories
39:10 No but the fact that he then proceeds to mention Riverdale’s sisters of quiet mercy 💀 I didn’t need them to tell me PLL and Riverdale are in the same universe, the disrespect
Fun fact re: the Mouse poster!!! I just listened to an interview with the showrunners and they said that the poster was printed and the credits were done and there was some sort of miscommunication about the date and they couldn't fix it in time, idfk it made sense to me 😂😂
I think it’s chip too, but the only reason I think that is because he, offhandedly brings up the baby’s father “you don’t have to tell me who the father is” That kinda set off my warning signs ya know there’s also little clues, he was jealous that tabby went to a jock party, he wasn’t offended when Greg flashed the girls but he’s supposedly the good guy I don’t buy it Edit- I WAS RIGHT!
I most definitely think that Karen’s mom is involved with Angela. Like she’s the same age as the 1999 girls and Karen was one of leatherfaces targets. Maybe she is the 6th A. Waters signature?
i feel like the 6th could be the twins' dad actually, it appears he was going to school with angela+the moms and since he's such a dick in 2022, there's no reason he wasn't already one in '99 and could have been involved in the bullying or rape of angela even if i don't think he was in any shape or form friends with the moms (like faran's mom for example really doesn't sound like she's enjoying the thought of him at all during the whole rat/posters/razor blades/video screening moment). meanwhile we have no info on where the twins' mom was in '99, for all we know she could be from out of town?
I mean, they were clearly super comfortable doing it, so it could be possible. That would make Kelly's sudden skill boost in dancing make a lot of sense, plus it would help explain how easily she slides into Karen's personality.
Isn't the plot of the PLL books that Alison-who-went-missing wasn't actually Alison but instead her twin sister who stole her life? Or...some variation of one of the Alison-twins being locked in the sanitarium while the other one stole her life, truly can't remember the order (these series, plural, I SWEAR) Anyway, obvs original PLL did some twin shit as well, but not on the scale of full-on stealing the entire identity for weeks/months/years. Would be interesting if the new series adapted bits and pieces from the books that the original show ignored?
I love mike being so pressed about the DOB on mouses missing poster when I literally just think it’s a typo/oversight because it makes not fucking sense lol
It will never be canon in my book 😭 Also, if they wanted to do that, doesn’t the actress who played Aria, wasn’t she in Riverdale and had a spin-off as Kady Kane or something like that? Sooo Aria has a doppelgänger? 👀
Hate to break it to you, but the creator of riverdale has his slick little self all up in this, so get ready for bear attacks, rockets and super powers in season 2 🙃
Theory; HBO asked Mike to analyze so they wouldn't have to track the plotlines on their own for season 2
Facts.
💀
Fr
Right!?!?!
Yep, totally 😄
mike saying the sentence "this video is sponsored by hbo max" deserves an EGOT
Throw a peoples choice award in too
he is on the way
RIGHTT like hbo. max.
kids choice award, MTV music video award, and whatever the adult film industry award is 🌟🏆
This is the only way they could get people to care about the reboot. It worked.
so nice of mike to help out smaller companies like HBO. Just shows how famously slay yet humble he is.
Literally like it’s basically charity work
so nice to see creators use their platform for good.
Kinda sucks cuz his review would probably be bias
Do you really go around calling people “slay”? 😟
@@urmom90210 its weird right slay comes from the gays yet they normally dont use it like that
i’m sorry but the scariest thing about this show is them being born in 2006 and being 16
I was born in 2006 and im 15, grandpa
They should be 4 wtf
Stop I literally assumed it took place a couple of years in the future before I saw your comment and did the math
@@luzzyluz67457 you're not 16 though now are you
how is that scary?? 2022 - 2006 = 16??? and mouse is 15, as she said. very confused unless i missed something saying the show was in 2010, because the flashback was in 2000 and then a card appeared saying that it is 22 years later??
One thing about the PLL girls is they are gonna go thru it quickly. Most of these events are happening Monday-Friday. They are booked and busy.
At least we have an actual time line though that makes sense
This comment is underrated
I’m dying, Mike saying “so I guess some spoilers for the original series” while sitting in front of wall which literally labels who is dead and who is A.
LOL GREAT POINT 😄😄😄
But seriously I’ve watched all of PLL and Mike’s videos several times and I still have no idea what happened. What happened? “ELLO SPENCE-AH!”
How did I not even see that 😂
@@kilgore_trout_37 I know the accent was bad (even Dame Troian Bellisario can't be perfect), but not to the point of hearing "ello spence-ah" instead of the iconically infamous "' 'ello sistah" ! 😂
We love Mike for everything everyone
“This video is sponsored by HBO MAX”
love it how it all comes full circle
now i just need to get on season 2 lol
@@mikesmic omg YESSSSS
hell yeaaahghhh!!;!/!/!!2
@@mikesmic that would be such a colossal SLAY
@@mikesmic when ur A>>>>>
Slaying the girlies with minimum effort
“This video is sponsored by HBO Max” has the same energy as Alison turning around in the garden to reveal that she’s alive. Oscar worthy 👏🏾
Spot on
HBO better give you a FAT FUCKING CHECK because I literally just binge watched the entire series in less than 24 hours JUST so I could watch this explanation and follow along. I hated most of it and the characters but I did it for YOU 😭
No but I did the same thing 😭
Sameeee and i KNOW mike was fighting for his life to not to make fun of some of the dialogues like Tabby we know you like movies you can stop with the 20 references in 1 minute of screen time pls
@@paularep DUDE YES!!! Every time she said a movie title I rolled my eyes like WE GET IT IT'S THE ONLY PERSONALITY TRAIT THE WRITERS COULD COME UP WITH FOR YOU DAMN lmaoo
@@xxmakeuplover05xx it did get better as time went on. I almost forgot she was doing rapid fire references when the rest of the episodes came out
No bc SAME
Mouse's family is "Disney-obsessed". Her mother, Elodie, is played by Lea Salonga - the singing voice of 2 Disney princesses, Mulan and Jasmine!
She voiced Mulan!!! That's awesome
Ooooo
we love queen lea!!
Loveeeeee thisssssssss
LEA SALONGA IS HEERREE? Filipino hearts happy fr
there's literally no one else i'd rather have explain pll: original sin to me than Mike, sponsored by HBO Max
the fact that we don't even have hbo max in australia but they're sponsoring this is a slay of such incredible magnitude
they said aussies go pirate this bad boy 🥰
@@sarahbearbabygirl and we do 🥰
Fun fact it’s on binge so don’t even worry about it babes (over my dead body will I use foxtel #downwithmurdoch)
It’s on binge!
I'd say BINGE is an equivalent to HBO Max
I really like that the crusty men in this series are portrayed as villains, instead of, you know, love interests…
IKR???
Nick from devil wears prada could never
cough ezra cough /lh
Sure but they still are the only two mentioned in this show. Romanticized even in 2022
*cough cough* Jason, Ian *cough cough*
Tabitha's dialogue could almost word for word be given to a season one Jughead Jones. We get it, you like movies.
Well both shows were created by the same person lmaooo
thank you for giving me another reason to avoid Riverdale. #grateful
@@monochromatic_melodramatic unless you hate yourself don't watch it
Thank you! That was my biggest problem with the show.
Exactly what I was thinking throughout the show 😭
I know one of the biggest criticisms of this show is the reveals being figured out too easily but it was honestly so refreshing. The one thing I hated about the original PLL is after the first A all of a sudden you would get these random as hell A’s who are completely irrelevant. Remember Spencer’s random twin that came out of no where in the last season? I love that this show hid A but still lead us on the journey to figuring it out and making sense. Also helps with rewatch value
SpencAH's twin is all of our sleep paralysis demon
Think the big big reveal of the season, the A reveal, wasn't that easily guessed tho so there's that at least. STOP READING NOW THOSE WHO DO NOT WISH TO BE SPOILED, but out of all the theories I saw, NONE of them were guessing fuckimg Clanton, like-? It made sense too at least. Someone who's been involved in the plot but not too much so the audience didn't suspect them, his position as principal gave him a lot of opportunities to do what he did, solid motive. It was out of nowhere for me, but the good kind of out of nowhere.
I pray that they don't go the route they did with the original show with the new A not making much sense. With Clanton captured and locked up, Archie on the run, Rose Water's status unknown, there could be more people related to Angela that would take over the game since the mom's weren't exactly punished.
Marlene must have friggen learned her lesson after that ring around the rosie mess she did with the first Pretty Little Liars lol.
I have to agree. I mean it’s just fun to do the whodunnit. And its better if the reveal actually makes sense and has been built up rather than just being info dumped with characters who didn’t exist five episodes ago or weren’t even hinted towards.
Even with plot twists. They shouldn’t be twists for the sake of being a twist, it should be shocking but in a manner where you then remember and realize that yes that actually was hinted here or foreshadowed there. And that should be the goal.
you said “sponsored by hbo max” and i SCREAMED. you slayed so hard they couldn’t resist but give a little sponsor.
Cry about it
@@nickmillican8905 huh?
Literally SOOOO sick our mans made it!
@@nickmillican8905 Oh I will. I’ll be crying, screaming, throwing up, and shitting in a corner that’s how excited I am for him.
fr like i am so proud of him he is THE pretty little liars youtuber now
Huge sponsorship!!!! Huge!!! This is huge!!!! For hbomax to get the chance to work with someone as big as MIKE. Congratulations hbo congrats
LDKANDJOKXJA
Mike is honestly so kind for giving these random streaming platforms a chance to be seen 🙄🥰💞💅
Don’t stroke his ego so much weez
I can’t believe you didn’t read the A message sent to Faran because it sent me. “You’re gonna slay as the Black Swan.” The yassification of A
having finished it and knowing who is writing those messages is sending me even further into the stratosphere omfg
mike being on the trending tab? mike being sponsored by HBO?? mike being on a PLL red carpet?? galactic levels of slay
can we talk about how mouse “playing pretend” daddy- daughter with a grown man was just not addressed like why was she doing that why was that needed????🤔
Right?! Like it didn’t even relate to the thing with A at all and just ended with no real consequences for her or the dude? Maybe they’ll talk about it in season 2 but I probs won’t watch it because the writing was awful
RIGHT?????? they just brushed it off as like "oh, she was missing a father" and "now she values her #irl" or something, and I'm here like!!! This girl is a hazard to herself!!! everything she did from meeting up random ass adults who are more or less messed up all the way to knocking on the door of her supposed father who tried to kidnap her when she was a kid (doesn't matter he's her dad, it's still kidnapping), all of it was just screaming "miss girl will get herself kill*d"
Fr....wtf
I was watching this show while unpacking from a move and I thought I missed an episode and went back but no it was just not really talked about. Marlene has her reasons…..
They had 13 minor-adult relationships in the original show and Riverdale was littered in incest im not shocked tbh
Mike, expectantly: "Do you see where this is going??"
Me, having never seen anything PLL related except for his videos and already lost: "Absolutely, that's wild babes."
I feel called out 💀
PERIOD LMAOOOO
omg you neeeed to watch his plot recaps for the whole original PLL show, they're literal masterpieces!!
this is so me-coded
@@RaphaelleLD she said "except for his videos"
the graphic mike used for the character map is so iconic it’s giving catching fire wiress you’re a genius tick tock it’s a clock realness
I got the biggest jumpscare of my life when they went to 'Ezra's books' in Rosewood, I don't want to see that man again
Update: screaming ,shaking, crying, throwing up and suing marlene king for that cursed finale
please come back to this after the finale
@@kaitlynm9463 absolute ratty behaviour in the finale
i have some horrible news for you from the finale
Literally almost puked from the finale
how are we feeling after the finale bestie
screaming crying throwing up its been a year part 2 when bestie??????
Congratulations to HBO max for being able to sponsor mikes mic - the only person who has the RIGHT to talk about anything PLL
chip being the SAer is horrifying but makes SO much sense..when he was telling imogen he was a loser who watches weird movies in his basement and has a mad crush on his friend who's not interested i was getting serious incel vibes AND he went with imogen to the clinic and pretended to be the baby's father!!! gooped.
Exactly. He’s definitely SUS.
The way he jumped from Tabby to Imogen… 👀
i was about to say its giving incel . i feel so bad for tabby and imogen
In episode 4 when Tabby is explaining to Greg the context behind the scene they're filming for her project, Tabby brings up that maybe Faran's character slipped something into his wine and the camera focuses in on Chip and he looks guilty as hell
@@emilia.ailime i noticed this too!! i found it so odd that it HAS to mean something. his face screaammmed guilty. chip seems so sweet, but that's what's more alarming to me. sometimes "nice guys" are the worst.
“I could drain the pasta” I have laughed out loud and clapped so many times. This is brilliant. And I’m dying for you to see episodes 8,9 and 10. We love you
screaming at this crossover of the century omg. i'm loving the show so far and you are absolutely killing it !!
OWBSKUDWB Mike has truly come full circle what an iconic interaction
omg loving this
Oh my god this is so iconic!!!
Ahhhh the queen herself!
pretty little liars + mikes mike = slay to end all slays. it’s a simple formula
exactly
i can’t BELIEVE you made Marlene King STEP on my NECK for ANOTHER 10 episodes!!! HBO Max if you’re reading, this video literally made me watch an entire season!!!!
Same ! Wouldn’t have watched it had it not been for Mike
I’m shocked that Mike didn’t just have a whole segment on the girls’ AMAZING Halloween costumes. Imogen as Rosemary from Rosemary’s Baby at least needed a mention
THAT WAS SUCH A GOOD COSTUME. She ate😭
@qopoy dnon I’m dead. Why is this here.
@@CarmenTomate people who comment on specific threads when they clearly intended to make a general comment under the video are such a powerful vibe. Like slay girl. Tell us your take. Make us listen even though we weren’t talking to you. What a flex
@@katie-allen I understand now. They slayed.
@qopoy dnon queen behavior! Hijack this comment section purrryed 💅😌
ok i love how original sin ALWAYS has title screens of the day/month for almost every scene because original pll's timeline was so fucked 💀
The amount of shit that could go down in a month or less was wild
I saw a meme on the original sin subreddit that was taken from the scene where Imogen is deciding on going to rosewood, and the meme said " It's November, do you want to be pregnant forever " gold.
Right? Almost evey review I saw said that was annoying but I really like it like that they are making an effort to make a logical timeline hahahaha
They were seniors from like season 3 to season 6
The fact that seasons 3-6A of OG pll happened in the span of a year will never not shock me 💀
I have not seen this show but I am 100% sure that Mouse is either older than she thinks she is, or there was another Mouse before her that did actually get child-snatched and then her moms adopted a replacement or at least something along those lines
ooh i love this theory! when she said “i just want to be a normal 15 year old” i was sooo taken aback. i hope this theory plays out bc i think that would be sooo interesting
Ooo, love this theory. An evolution on it is that maybe she was successfully kidnapped but has repressed those memories? It would explain why her mom is so batsh*t about everything and why she was in the support group.
@@naomikriege1955 omg smart!! it would make sense that she thinks she’s younger than she is if she doesn’t remember year(s) of her life
If she was born in 92 , poor girl is 30!!
@@Xxbaesiaa damn i was thinking only a few years but that would be some crazy reverse orphan shit 😭 honestly i feel like that could be cool if they do it right
Have I ever watched this show? No!!! Could I listen to Mike talk about it unedited for 14 hours? Yes!
Same lol
It’s a good show! Following along weekly is fun
S o r r y hbo, you could never
2:56 the mental image of Mike setting up scaffolding and laying on his back to complete this art like Michaelangelo is very important to me
The ONE thing that bothered me the MOST about this whole series is that Millwood is supposedly pretty close to Rosewood (since I and T could drive there) and they mentioned Radley (the hotel) and Aria and Erza were hinted at (or name dropped?) but the girls didn't mention the OG A????
Like "hey do you guys remember some years ago when a group of teenagers in Rosewood got texts from someone called A and it turned out it was a classmate of theirs? Yeah, when one of the girls were presumed dead for like 3 years? And theeeen they got kidnapped a few years later by another A that turned out to be the sister of the girl that was presumed dead?
Huh, strange that that happened, that A was such a big thing that happened to them and now someone is doing something simillar to us.
Like REALLY?? NOT ONE MENTION OF THE OG GIRLS and their A???
i think its a different universe where the location and characters of the og exist but the storyline and events do not just so they can make references to it for the og fans
@@ladieslovecj Honestly, I doubt that's the case because if it was, then they'd try to seperate the two shows more, not include Radley or Aria/Ezra. I sort of like the idea of of them being in the same universe, but I think it ended up very half-arsed and lazy. I don't mind a reboot but if it is in the same universe they should've at least mentioned the OG A situation.
@@moanystrom3531 i mean by that logic then its in the same universe as riverdale and sabrina, i think the main writer just likes to reference things lol but im not entirely sure we'll have to see in s2, you def could be right ! thats just how i rationalised it lol
I think in the other spin-off, The Perfectionists, Alison and Mona mention that since they were minors at the time, the records around A and what they went through are sealed, so maybe they’re using that logic to explain it.
I'm not usually one for corporate shilling (or leaving comments... ever) but I've gotta say, it feels pretty good knowing there's a social media manager at HBO that knows their audience. Not just know, but like... KNOW. Congratulations Michael on this Galactic Slay™️
Me finding out "to thine own self be true" is actually originally from Hamlet and not from Barbie Princess and the Pauper The Cats Meow was slightly devastating. I really thought they'd chucked in a really niche barbie reference.
I LITERALLY SANG THAT LYRIC IN MY HEAD WHEN I READ THE TEXT
OMG seriously??? Lol that might be the funniest thing I've heard all year.
@@christyfielding7498 really not sure how I've made it this far in life tbh. I'm too dumb, I need to be put down
CTFU
💀💀💀
"This video is sponsored by HBO Max" the fact that Mike doesn't even have 1 million subscribers yet is INSANE
I would just like HBO max to be aware that I was not going to watch PLL until this video convinced me to give it a go and i love it and have binged all 7 thank you mike
(p.s the way you've drawn the connection map makes it look like imogen's baby is A, which is a theory i support)
I still can’t believe Noa’s boyfriend blew up at her mom for being a drug addict then turns around and starts doping for football…
Well that’s still a little different than her mom letting her daughter get in trouble for her drug problems
he didn't turn around and start doping. he already was doping for football. it wasn't out of no where and it makes perfect sense that he blew up like that because steroids can do that to you
I can’t believe Mike didn’t mention that Tabby went to EZRA’s Books while they were spending the night in Rosewood.
Mike really for the people having access to all 10 eps an not watching the last 3 yet. Got more integrity than most journalists. Props my guy !
I wonder if he watched the last 3 as soon as he finished recording lmao, I would've.
the effort mike puts into his posters/backdrop & overall videos DESERVES A GRAMMY, EMMY & every other MAJOR award 🥇
the true GOAT
he’s in his EGOT era
i still want merch of the PLL map. i want a print of that wall
One other thing of note: The letter left for Elodie which said "Meet me in the HAll of Mirrors" - the A in Hall is NOT written in red marker. Every other letter and message from A has emphasized any A that appears in the message. Elodie's letter does not.
I also think it's interesting how the parents are getting the brunt of the targeting and our main cast seems to be protected more than anything. I think this goes deeper than just someone wanting to avenge Angela. Perhaps what caused Angela to be an outcast in the first place was cruel or mean behavior that was encouraged by Angela's mom. I think "A" wants to get rid of bad parents more so than get revenge. A sees the main cast as good people but sees their moms as being corrupting influences.
yeah I kinda thought after Karen’s death that the “one bully dead” was actually talking about Davie; I feel like the other “five” could be the other liars’ moms and sheriff beasley..? idk for sure bc I’m only on episode 3 tho😭
@@pintobears OMG that is such a great point. Sheriff beasley could be the one who SAed Angela.
@@pintobears (spoilers for 6 or 7 i think i've just watched this video)
i feel like the last of the 'other 5' is also the same person as the 6th one to sign into Radley
@lauren
SPOILER
I agree with everything you said BUT im still wondering one thing….. why would A kill Tyler?????
@@biptari yes omg i just finished ep 7
They casted the actors perfectly!! Like the liars look like their parents. And the younger versions of the Mom’s look like the current day Mom’s
Truth. Except imogen and her mom if you think about it 🤣🤣🤣
@@jabarishabazz5928 if u noticed tho imogens mom was blonde as a teen and imogen is blonde as well so that’s probably why.. but also they don’t look that alike
@@sneakieee true I did peep that
HBO doesn’t mess around 😂
marlene is going straight to jail for that aria & ezra reference
The fact that she’s giving her baby to aria and Ezra 🤮
Spoiler for PLL Summer School she changes her mind and doesn't give her baby to them because she found Ezra creepy
Also, can we please talk about how all the moms had babies around the same time?? Thats friendship lol
i'm pretty sure this was the plot of a Lifetime movie
It’s giving pregnancy pact vibes
Holy shit, what if mouses mom planned to keep her all along so that she could be pregnant with the besties without having sex with some guy and also without paying a shit ton of money to do ivf
right it's giving little mix
Pretty sure that's just what US working class towns are like.
So, the question has been raised multiple times about why A cares about karen and kelly. I think this has to mean that they have another connection to the events of 1999. Perhaps Sheriff Beasley had some link to Angela, I'm thinking he was the person who assaulted her
But then this raises another question for me, which is why does A/Leatherface seem to care more about karen than kelly? The person who was pushed at the dance was pushed because they were assumed to be karen. But when we start wondering if karen and kelly are actually switched, A goes after kelly but leaves her alone until she insists she's actually kelly. So we're under the assumption that A wants to harm Karen, but not kelly. If them being targeted because of something their parents had done relating to the events of 1999, why only focus on one of their children?
@@elenao.804 I was thinking along the same lines my theory is they go after people violently only when they see bully or creep behavior. The rest of the time they just sort of chase them.
I agree with that theory!
@@BlckSWANWhtRbbt makes sense with tyler's death too :0
@@elenao.804 or Mr. Beasely just hated Karen and wanted her dead lol
The way I screamed when you said “This video is sponsored by HBO MAX” was inhuman. The sponsorship looks good on you.
It's fundamentally important to the universe that Michael Microphone wears his limited edition Rina Sawayama hat anytime he talks about PLL
The heart shirt is Rina merch ??
@@tylerxavier2527 I meant to specify his hat lol.
honestly, the most shocking thing that happened during the series was when Eddie mentioned Riverdale and the Sisters of Quiet Mercy like my jaw was on the floor
truuuu like HOW
this had me absolutely gagged because it means chilling adventures of sabrina is in the same universe as the ORIGINAL pll. like witches and the dark lord exist a single state away from the og liars
mike pls do an analysis on riverdale now 🙏
and they also brought up cole sprouse which makes it more confusing…
@@futura4eva oh shit you're right, I never even noticed that lol
I can only hope that the creators don't wage an imaginary war against the viewers in trying to fool them, no evil twin plot twist again please 😭
They already have evil twin pretending to be the other twin already 😭
@@Winstar66 I typed that in the first minute of the video and then reached the end and realised 🥲🥲
Istg if it turns out Karen's alive and she's working with Kelly to torture the liars because of some secret relationship they had with the girl who k1ll3d herself...that would be top tier PLL
@@orimengu That would so lame I can’t even
Ello sista
I've had my eye on chip for the longest time cause I DO NOT trust a man that nice who is always called the nice guy and who now all of a sudden likes Imogen after already liking Tabby. Also, as a PLL vet as well, I quite simply trust no one and nothing.
I would like it on record that I knew it
Literally, the minute he started talking to imogen I had to pause and take a breath. I didn’t want to believe it and I was rooting for him for as long as I could. But once he made a connection to both girls after they thought they were r worded by the same guy ? Yeah I was like no no no pls no. There’s only like two uncrusty men left, I don’t trust Shawn too much anymore. He’s going to have to relearn that in season two, he just put me off so much at the end idk. And I’m lowkey rooting for leather face 👀. Like at the beginning he was killing all the ppl who sucked and were looking at the girls weird yk. And the finale gives me hope, I feel he could get some type of redemption cause he’s defiantly been through some shit and I think deserves some justice for what was down to him. Anyway lmao
mike could literally sit and stare at the camera for an hour and I’d still be entertained lol
He actually does in his podcast Jumping in an Elevator!
Fact
I literally clicked the video thinking "Mike could be talking about anything and I'd be here"
yeah. people say that they 'could listen to someone read the dictionary and be entertained' and like i see where they are coming from but mike could put even LESS effort in and id still be here. but he puts the most effort and idk how im surviving it
Madame Giry? Marlene canNOT live without inserting 20 literary easter eggs into each episode of this franchise
wait what’s the easter egggg?
@@liliadesouza3597 she's a reference to madame giry from the phantom of the opera, who is too a ballet instructor
After finishing the series, I'm so impressed at how accurate your theories were
I never got into PLL but PLL got me into Mic’s Mike and for that we are all thankful
This new series is iconic in its own right. The aesthetic is ✨everything✨
the music choices too? i'm loving we're getting pop girlies as well as the good late 90s/y2k slasher nu metal shit
The fact that I started literally TAKING NOTES on this series because of Mike’s series is iconic. And as of episode 7, I have 24 pages of notes…
slay
boots the house down,,love this for u. if we were a class, you’d win
PLEASE SEND THEM TO ME
I have a notebook full of notes I took during the original series. You are inspiring me to break that bad boy out!
Waiting for that link! 🤣
does Tabby ever say anything that's NOT a movie reference? she can't even keep it limited to horror movie references
she reminds of Spencer's refrences, I found it funny, I mean they're 16 we're all cringe at 16.
Speaking of horror/thriller references, I love the connection between Faran’s storyline with performing Swan Lake and struggling with her mother putting unrealistic expectations of perfection on her, and the movie Black Swan that also deals with some similar themes. Even if it wasn’t intended that way, I think it’s a really cool reference
idk if u know this mike however i feel it is essential info, madame giry is the name of a character (a ballet instructor) in the phantom of the opera who helps the phantom access christine (the girl who he stalks) and she keeps his location/identity a secret
I was looking for this comment; such a nice Easter Egg for musical theatre fans.
yes YES
🧐
Ohhhh that’s why it sounded familiar to me!! I was sitting here struggling to remember
Having a blonde daughter figure also checks out
I both cannot believe the PLL wall is still up and yet I am nowhere near surprised. I love it. TBH, if it was available as a poster (merch?…….) I would probably buy it.
An all-over-print shirt or jumper of the PLL wall would be gorgeous
i think he was trying!! but it’s huge, so minimising it yet keeping it readable is probably frickin hard lol
I would have loved a tapestry of it when I was in college
iirc a lot of the photos are copyrighted by the show and/or the photographers so i think he would need licensing from PLL in order to sell any merch of the wall
@@kir-is-here damn that's a shame. Maybe someday he can commission an artist to draw the whole thing and they could sell it that way or something
I think it's interesting that Leatherface most often kills people who the Liars would have motive to get rid of. I feel like he's setting it up to frame them as a way to get back at their moms for whatever happened at the Y2K party, and the way he's making sure the moms know it's payback is he's reminding all of them of the party and dropping all these clues. I also think it's a Scream situation and there's definitely two killers, two As.
and they just straight up threw that oportunity out. its almost like they gave what the fans wanted on the "aesthetics" and overall vibes and smaller plots of the show, but when it came to the A reveal they pulled a Riverdale and got a ranodm character to be the mastermind and a Chic kind of guy to be the gargoyle monter idk im pissed
@@beatrizrocha8773 wasn’t really random at all if you track from start to finish
i think it’s bc he wanted to punish bullies. i finished the series and tho i don’t think it was stated outright but leatherfsce wanted to punish bullies and i think that’s why leatherfsce killed the people who were bullying the liars
@@lizzyizzywizzy leatherface was def punishing bullies but it could be possible that he also did it to eventually frame the girls to punish the mothers as well
I don't know where else to put that theory, because I waited the whole season and it didn't happen. But! I still firmly believe that Wes is Ezra's brother Wes! The age, the looks. The desire of involvment with a younger woman lower on a vertical of power. Many people noticed that Wes and Tabby here is a modern more honest re-telling of Aria/Ezra story, but could this be because of their relation?
I think that Wes is A & he looks like Angela too!
WAIT A DAMN MINUTE you might be onto something there
the way i was like “ugh ok i’ll go watch the show before watching this vid” and i binged the whole season in 24 hours.. they did what needed to be done!
Omg me too! I didn't want to be spoiled, but I wanted to see Mike's video too 😭💀
Madame Giry is a reference to The Phantom of the Opera. In the musical, Madame Giry is Christine’s ballet teacher, and an ally of the Phantom’s as well… could just be an Easter egg, but it could hint at something more, seeing as A is a masked individual… 👀
I’ve definitely been getting vibes that Chip was the one who assaulted Tabby. I also am curious about Karen and Kelly’s mom, I think she’s the only other mom we have met so far, like what was SHE doing in the 90s?? Why are K and K involved with A now? Just because Karen was awful to them? Seems weak to me.
Chip being Imogen's assaulter would also explain why he full on pretended to be the father of her baby at the adoption agency... that was SO sus
Apparently Karen was mean to them cause Imogen was accused of kissing Karen’s boyfriend, Noa and Mouse both said they wouldn’t vote for her and called her a fake Barbie bitch Tabby openly supported Imogen and Farrah got the black swan part that Karen wanted and Kelly is just the evil minion to Karen’s plan
OMG
what is karen's mom was the sixth person who visited rose waters in radleys.
@@Aisha_Luv this comment has me thinking the same thing. Karen’s mom is very possibly the 6th visitor.
@@DarkSister535 honestly so true she’s the only other mom who is some how NOT related to the story Marlene is trying to pull a fast one on us I wouldn’t be surprised if she knew more but is afraid of her husband to do or say anything or if she was a close friend of Angela Waters and blames herself for her death in some way
madame giry being a reference to phantom of the opera which is all about a weird guy running around in a mask and killing people……they are so clever for that
madame giry also had the most contact with the phantom and knew everything about him!! she is shady for sure
"that's CHIP. that's CRISP" this is peak Naur Country comedy
One theory i have about Mouse and the weird date on her missing person poster: She said her moms "want her to stay a kid forever" so like what if she literally is ten years older than the other girls but because she still looks young her moms are passing her off as a student even though she's a full grown adult? Like probably not but imagine if that was the twist
OKAYY HBO MAX SPONSOR!! no one deserves it more
omg mxmtoon???? on a mikes mic video???? my two faves?!?!?!
girl why are you here😯
not mxmtoon on a mikes mic video stopp
[da vinky twins voice] MXMTOON??
Omg Mxmtoon slay
I think "Kelly" is actually Karen. Karen knew about Scoliosis. Karen does that mouth open thing, and in the show they zoomed on her mouth when she did it. Karen also wears heals while Kelly wears flats.
Also, I died a little inside when they mentioned Riverdale. Please don’t crossover. It’s too much.
I think it's also possible that she is Kelly trying to replicate Karen, because she's jealous of her sister. She's seen saying things like "I'm not enough" or "why can't I be talented" so I think she was jealous of Karen and felt like their parents and peers valued her more than they did Kelly. So now Kelly is trying to be more like Karen in an attempt to get all the attention her sister used to get.
Yes!! As soon as Kelly pretended to be Karen in the second (I think or first) episode to talk to the principal I immediately knew that probably meant it wasn’t the first time they’ve done some sort of switch like that. Also in the original pretty little liars books that happens with Alison and Courtney her twin who would like to pretend to be her.
Original Sin & Riverdale being in the same universe, is my 13th reason.
I haven’t watched the show but I feel like it might be paralleling what Mouse is doing for those people? As in Kelly is pretending to be Karen for her mom.
I am not kidding, as soon as I heard Riverdale, I shouted, "Marlene, bestie, please don't do this. I can't do that 6 seasons of insanity to understand things in this universe."
My theory: Chip is A, ANGELAS BABY. Angela was a teen preggo (like our girlie Imogen). Sherriff Beasley is the person who assaulted Angela. Leatherface is Chips Uncle which is why they are working together. I feel like Chip assaulted Imogen and wanted to get her pregnant (like his mother was). The only way this works tho, is if Angela didnt actually die in the warehouse, but you know the PLLCU loves to pull a fake death moment. This would make Sherriff Beasley Chips father and the twins, his half sisters. This could explain why A is targeting the twins at all.
Oh man this is giving me major original PLL series vibes
my money's on your theory
@@ia490 what can i say, im a huge og pll fan true and true. I feel like theyve already given so many nods to the og (twins for example) why not more deep family secrets, messy family trees and unhinged A’s trying to morbidly recreate what they lost
I feel like she has to be dead. If you'd pause on the scene where they show her body, her arm is broken in half and like sticking straight up with one half dangling down, and one of her legs is cut clean off, and she fell face down, no way a fetus would survive that.
@@audreybea4013 honestly this is more of a tinfoil hat theory. Thinking longer about it, dates wouldnt really match up but I feel like a secret pregnancy involved would be cool.
I love the plot so far but honestly when it comes to the writing, the show sucks. it's giving me twitter-esque conversations and that is sometimes ruining the viewing experience for me. 💀
Like why does tabby have to reference movies ever single time she talks?? And why does mouse have to say “irl” “canon” all the time 😭😭
finally someone else said it omg. the plot from episodes 2-9 were interesting and fun, but the writing ESPECIALLY in the first and last episodes was hard to listen to
@@kaydale3016 literally it seems like adults who don’t know how to write modern teenagers so they just assume kids these days talk like they do online “irl”
It's by the same guy who created Riverdale
@@lilac.mascara they referenced Riverdale so many times too
We need a part two. Because that finale made me scream. From a jump scare but also …. That one part at the end. Whyyyy them. We had other choices HBO.
Honestly as much as I hate Ezria it does make sense😭Aria revealed fertility issues in the last (second last??) episode of PLL but I hope Ezra trips and unalives
@@jaiden494 why it couldn’t be Hanna and her Techno boy-toy 🤧🤧
@@paulapiwowarczyk4877 I think they'd be more likely to have their own kid. Aria was revealed to be infertile, and in the finale, she mentions that she and that nasty man were looking into adoption.
Hanna was already pregnant at the end of PLL. Aria and Ezra had established problems with fertility so makes sense.
Mike did you forget that Noa took the USB drive from Tabby saying she'll destroy it but then there was no actual scene of her doing that
I don't think Chip is leatherface or A but In am genuinely concerned he's the guy who assaulted Tabby or Imogen, or both of them since they laid that groundwork.
The subtle foreshadowing with him while they've been pushing the idea of it being one of the jocks so hard makes me uneasy, and I think him immediately calling himself the father at the adoption clinic was probably done on purpose.
Clocked pretty early on because of the "its always someone you know, but it showed/mentioned him going to the party with her a few episodes in. And he always seemed too good to be true, an act he put on especially when he said "I'm not boyfriend material" and the stunt he pulled filming her movie.
Plus it cutting to him giving Tabitha a weird look when she mentioned the possibility of Greg being drugged while she was directing the Psycho scene.
there’s def an A team, nothing gets done without those who pretend to be regular humans but are really psychopaths and also i miss the flop A texts for the old Liars
The fact that Mallory acted out the part of Kelly acting as Karen to the principal in such a fantastic way that it made the viewers doubt that it was Kelly rather than Karen even though she keeps saying that she is Karen, is absolutely oscar, grammy, emmy, nobel peace prize worthy.
Also please no spoilers in the replies, I just finished episode 2. I haven't watched the full series yet.
i can’t believe you didn’t mentioned the most groundbreaking discovery made in episode 6 in which they talk about someone moving to Riverdale?!?!?! i was on the floor, does this mean its set in the same universe ? then its supernatural double confirmed with Caleb seeing ghosts and all
but fr congrat on that sponsor
i’ve been going between the show and your video, watching your recap of each chapter after i finished them, awesome video and i love your theories
Couldn't decide if I wanted to watch the show or not but the first 3 minutes alone have persuaded me to pause, go watch the 7 episodes, then come back in a few hours so I can fully appreciate the beauty of this video.
Same and I really hope it’s good! Didn’t plan on a watching but..
Me too lol
Happy to hear that Mike is being useful to HBO so they would keep making videos with him hahahahah
I love it so much!! The OG is a classic, and I’m a huge horror fan so I’m loving the darker new take.
Its so cool how they filmed at an abandoned school to really give us an actual school vibe
YESSS I HAVE BEEN LOVING THE SHOW SO FAR AND ABSOLUTELY LOVE THAT YOU GOT TO GO TO THE PREMIERE AND VISIT THE SETS!!
It has been a while since I've gotten into a show that releases episodes WEEKLY so that I can go online to discuss it with people!! So excited for the last few episodes ♥
10:04 I love that “lasagna-box” is the first descriptor of Rosewood
SPOILER FOR THE LAST EPISODE!! and a warning for talking about r*pe
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
can we talk about that moment where the girls send leather face after the rapist? the girlbossification of the rape revenge genre! legendary. also the portrayal of the rapist is extremely accurate sadly, the man who raped me was similar.
You're absolutely right, more often than not it's a man who's close to you and "nice". I hope you're okay babe ❤️
the casting for the young mums and older mums and their daughter's is incredible!!
Fun fact I'm pretty sure Madam Giry the ballet instructor is a direct reference to the Phantom of the Opera - as there's a Madam Giry there as well who btw knows the secret identity of the Phantom and actually helps him... So maybe this Madam Giry has a link to A/leather face?
You are a person of culture.
That was my first thought, like she’s a ballet instructor with the same exact name, that’s obviously a reference!
that’s what i was thinking!!
I'd pay big money to see Mike do one of these with Dark (Netflix). Somehow everything would make sense
ugh i love that show
@@mikesmic I'm watching it for the first time with EXTENSIVE note taking.
@@IvanDBelmont netflix made like a website that tracked all the family trees by season which is super handy!!!
@@mikesmic thank you, I wanna figure it out myself though. (spoiler)
I found out Mikkle and Michael were the same person almost instantly
Without spoiling anything, but literally everything makes sense jn the end. The writers planned the show for 3 seasons so it won't be as feral as riverdale is
I agree that Sheriff Beasley def assaulted Angela! It would make sense why “Kelly” started getting A texts too, bc her dad was apart of the original sin. The only thing that doesn’t add up is that he’s obviously a bit fruity 💅🏼
Fruity people also do that stuff too especially when in the closet and battling sexuality . This is all based on fruity villains in shows tho
@@ARMY-sz3hi Nah ur right and his wife ended up saying he did it to “prove something to himself” so it checks out
@@mywig8971 glad I wasn’t the only one to think about it
after watching all the episodes i do have some stuff to say abt the A reveal so SPOILERS BELOW !!!!!!! DO NOT CLICK IF U HAVENT WATCHED ALL 10 EPISODES
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
i kinda like mike’s theory of wes being the mastermind behind A a little bit better than the actual reveal bc A. Wes is a freak and i feel like he would wanna scare tabby into his arms basically or blackmail her into getting closer w him, and if he knows abt Chip he would wanna punish him. B. while i think clanton was a good A bc he connects the timelines, the whole ‘dad not wanting to connect w their kids’ trope is getting RAMPANT in this series. C, having angela have a twin brother who we have heard NOTHING ABOUT at ALL from ANYONE (besides in the waters house where his height was on the doorframe) is soooo cliche, esp the whole ‘he’s deformed so no one knew about him’ like pack it up quasimodo we have seen this trope in a million things it’s not new and it’s degrading to ppl with deformities. ppl w facial deformities are not monsters they’re just people who didn’t develop physically like everyone else did bye. and physical deformities =/= mental incompetency and i somehow feel like this series is leaning toward that for archie. plus i hate that eddie name dropped riverdale as a town nearby and angela’s supposed brother’s name is archie it’s giving me the ick if there is a crossover i’m leaving. i’m also kinda mad we didn’t get to see archie’s face like for all we know clanton could have been lying abt who archie is so idk if i think lestherface is really angela’s supposed brother archie. unrelated, i think it’s weird to find out that davie really did s-word and wrote an A in blood on the wall. like why would she do that? to let the ‘99 liars know that A was back since it seems like they maybe dealt with A before? idk i’ll be interested to see how they explore A & the moms interactions more in s2. lastly i called it by ep 4 (? whichever was the female gaze one) that chip had been the one to assault tabby and maybe imogen as well but when he asked if he and imogen could pair up for the baby thing i knew immediately it was him bc he was being SO sus abt it. i knew from the start that there was something off w chip bc he was so clearly pining after tabby and was just being a freak abt it idk call it my intuition. but chips face when sidney came in and accused wes of r-wording tabby?? now that was beautiful we love to see an SA-er get scared 💛
if u read this long lmk if u agree or whateva i just needed to share my opinions and theories
39:10 No but the fact that he then proceeds to mention Riverdale’s sisters of quiet mercy 💀 I didn’t need them to tell me PLL and Riverdale are in the same universe, the disrespect
Chip is definitely the one who SAed both of the liars and I also believe that the sheriff is deeply involved in some way.
Fun fact re: the Mouse poster!!! I just listened to an interview with the showrunners and they said that the poster was printed and the credits were done and there was some sort of miscommunication about the date and they couldn't fix it in time, idfk it made sense to me 😂😂
It was just an accident?? 😭
I thought they were going to make an orphan reference
@@amelia3146 unfortunately yeah, some miscommunication with the art department 🤷🏼♀️
@@luisazavala3900 That would've been wild, especially with Mouse's mom being as overprotective as she is I could see it!
We're in the trenches, waiting for Part 2 😭😭
I think it’s chip too, but the only reason I think that is because he, offhandedly brings up the baby’s father “you don’t have to tell me who the father is”
That kinda set off my warning signs ya know there’s also little clues, he was jealous that tabby went to a jock party, he wasn’t offended when Greg flashed the girls but he’s supposedly the good guy I don’t buy it
Edit- I WAS RIGHT!
I most definitely think that Karen’s mom is involved with Angela. Like she’s the same age as the 1999 girls and Karen was one of leatherfaces targets. Maybe she is the 6th A. Waters signature?
i feel like the 6th could be the twins' dad actually, it appears he was going to school with angela+the moms and since he's such a dick in 2022, there's no reason he wasn't already one in '99 and could have been involved in the bullying or rape of angela even if i don't think he was in any shape or form friends with the moms (like faran's mom for example really doesn't sound like she's enjoying the thought of him at all during the whole rat/posters/razor blades/video screening moment).
meanwhile we have no info on where the twins' mom was in '99, for all we know she could be from out of town?
Idk the odds of this but what i would looove is that kelly and karen actually have spent their entire lives switching around all the time
I mean, they were clearly super comfortable doing it, so it could be possible. That would make Kelly's sudden skill boost in dancing make a lot of sense, plus it would help explain how easily she slides into Karen's personality.
I knew identical twins in high school and they would switch places all the time, so it's possible.
Isn't the plot of the PLL books that Alison-who-went-missing wasn't actually Alison but instead her twin sister who stole her life? Or...some variation of one of the Alison-twins being locked in the sanitarium while the other one stole her life, truly can't remember the order (these series, plural, I SWEAR)
Anyway, obvs original PLL did some twin shit as well, but not on the scale of full-on stealing the entire identity for weeks/months/years. Would be interesting if the new series adapted bits and pieces from the books that the original show ignored?
I love mike being so pressed about the DOB on mouses missing poster when I literally just think it’s a typo/oversight because it makes not fucking sense lol
Please tell me I’m not the only one shocked by who is going to adopt Imogen’s baby.
deadass like they could’ve chosen any couple😟
@@jenwithluv4066 but they chose the most problematic one and I don't give a shit that they cant conceive a baby
I literally screamed. sooooo crusty ughhhh ew ew ew
like, why not caleb and hanna, if anyone?
Nope it doesn’t surprise me!
can we talk about the fact that pretty little liars is now confirmed to be in the same universe as riverdale??? like NAURRR not that
It will never be canon in my book 😭
Also, if they wanted to do that, doesn’t the actress who played Aria, wasn’t she in Riverdale and had a spin-off as Kady Kane or something like that? Sooo Aria has a doppelgänger? 👀
Hate to break it to you, but the creator of riverdale has his slick little self all up in this, so get ready for bear attacks, rockets and super powers in season 2 🙃
@@gothboithick both because the original pll is canon in this series 😭
@@astoldbynickgerr oh my god i totally forgot about that! yikessss
@@marymargaretmakes oh no i had no idea it was the same creator… oh god, they’re all gonna be witches by next season