Not going to lie… The pop culture surrounding “Quiet on Set” with Dan Schneider…. Makes the “Release the Snyder cut” sound TERRIBLE. Thank goodness for the spelling in the comment section saying Snyder and not Schneider
Baby doll said that guardian angels could be 3 things: an old man, a girl, and a kid. They were all of sweet peas angels to help her escape. Baby doll helped get her out, The kid didn't do much but maybe he was a sign that she was on the right path, and the old man lied to get the cops away from her
I guess the main critique for the movie now is that it’s too hectic for a viewer to realistically get all those parallels and nuances on the first watch.
@@egorpozdnyakov8812 this movie wasn’t received properly because the world wasn’t ready for alternate realities happening at the same time or movies with many parallels. back then the mainstream wasn’t used to multiverses/AUs/parallels. Alternatively now most movies use that premise, i.e. EEAAO, Marvel, DC
@egorpozdnyakov8812 another reason why I love the movie as someone who rewatches things to infinity. But yes, you are right. My friends had me to explain what was going on otherwise I don't think they would have been that patient to rewatch it again.
Sucker Punch, Charlie's Angels and Jennifer's Body...the trifecta of movies made especially for the phrase "the girls who get it get it and the girls who don't don't and if you don't get it I feel sorry for you" NO, I will not elaborate
Ironically, the people who hated it tended to be left-leaning journalists because "scantily clad women must mean misogynist messaging" and "regular" people, both men and women, who didn't understand that there actually was a story to go with the visuals and/or who agreed with the journalists. Something so disheartening about the message the movie was trying to convey being ignored because a good chunk of the audience saw women being exploited/abused, still being strong despite that, and thought, "well, nothing of substance could possibly be here" just because of how the women were dressed and because Snyder made the movie visually appealing.
I work as a stripper and it would interest many of u to know that the clubs play bjork army of me for stage dances!! I swear to god the influence this movie STILL has…
I don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but the original script is available online. I have been obsessed with this movie for years and collected all the tidbits about what was in the original cut, reading the script was pretty revelatory. It's much more cohesive than even the extended version and it's more of an emotional gut punch. I really recommend reading it.
also on another note- if y’all have not ever looked up the PROP DESIGN in this movie, you are missing out. baby dolls gun and sword are so detailed and really are personalized to her character. they have little charms on them and it’s just so good. the attention to detail with design is so under appreciated.
@@mccrackenz the delusion in me is still thinks that the actual props will be sold again and not for thousands like they were 😅 and the even deeper delusion in me is convinced i’d be able to afford them lmaooo
This video makes me feel so seen. I watched it at a sleepover when I was like 12, it really had an impact on my friend group. We felt empowered by it in a way that's hard to explain. It didn't feel like women were being objectified by the camera, it felt like the camera was exposing how women in vulnerable positions are objectified. Those are two different things. The fact that so many people didn't see that at the time isn't surprising though.
Awesome! It seems that many haters feel like women aren't smart enough to get that on their own. That they have to protect the women from any kind of freedom of expression they may be "victims" to, even if it's really about self-empowerment.
sucker punch is also a beautiful commentary on the origins of the ballet. being pimped out is actually what original ballerinas had to do to survive and fund their dance studios. it’s like if fran bow was black swan- absolutely insane
Dancing troupes and sex work gone hand in hand for long time and many cultures. Beautiful people that knew what to do with their body always gathered attention of this kind, consensual or not
@@MatthewTheWanderer every culture has their own term and elaborate customs for how they systematically pressured women into selling their bodies to survive
I watched this prolly two or three times as a kid and i barely remember it, it was like a fever dream! The biggest thing i remember is that i loved it so so much, especially the main character. I wanted to be her sooo bad plssss 😭😭
I have always loved Sucker Punch. My introvert, anxiety-ridden self had the courage to cosplay as Baby Doll for a convention and I got so many compliments and girls wanting photos with me saying how much they loved the movie. We understood it. Thank you for making this video. Sucker Punch is so underrated and misunderstood.
People bash this movie for exploiting women but I'm like....that's the point? These women ARE exploited in a mental hospital so much so the main character easily fantasizes it as a brothel and the whole film revolves around her emotionally empowering herself and others to weave an escape plan and free themselves from their mistreatment. The movie is feminist at its core but the majority see skimpy outfits and women in suggestive situations they can't escape and immediately get mad. (This blew up holy shit)
Bro this movie stuck in my head since the day I saw it so much that I was able to remember the title and thumbnail detail by detail as soon as I saw it on Netflix. I'm still looking for the directors cut tho cuz that was the version I watched first
this movie was stylish as HELL and for all its flaws in the plot/themes level, it was such a ride visually and audio wise. kind of a guilty pleasure movie to me
i think Babydoll IS Sweetpea and Rocket is Babydoll’s sister that she killed in the beginning. the part at the beginning is the reason why Sweetpea is there and NONE of the other girls are real/just other patients at the hospital that Sweetpea has made up this friendship with to cope. That’s why when the three of them die there’s no repercussions in the 1st reality because Rocket had already died, and the friendship and camaraderie with other girls was imaginary/Sweetpea doesn’t know what happened to them and can only assume (Imagine) the worst
That would explain why Sweatpea and Babydoll are both portraying the same traumatic event... It does explain, however, how Sweetpea would have a traumatic lobotomy story from prior to following Rocket to Lenox. Unless... They're prepping the girl for their upcoming lobotomy and she said no in character and has since accepted it by the end. She could even still be in the asylum and her dream world is running away on the bus. But "she helped someone get away".... Who's that someone, if not herself??
Did anyone else notice that all the battles from the 3rd reality are genres usually associated (and gatekept) by men?: “Samurai” movies, WW# movies, LOTR-esque fantasy movies, and then I would consider that last one like “I, Robot” futuristic technology movies
Back when this movie came out my friends and I (who loved it) always described it as, "Either a dumb movie made by a smart person, or a smart movie made by a dumb person" and I still stand by that
As a CPTSD girly who heavily dissociated in her youth I ate this movie up when it came out. It’s still one of my faves to this day and will defend it with my life. Love love love this deep dive
The funny thing about me is that I saw this movie before my C-PTSD had truly manifested itself as whilst I already had a few minor traumas most of the big ones came after watching this movie. If anything, the more I grew the more I understood the dark place that Babydoll was at and the more I loved it when I was already one of the girlies who ate this movie. It was almost like an omen of, 'this is going to be how you feel in a few years ahead'.
@@inferiorinferno8859 it was the same for me!! I didn’t really understand why I felt like I understood it so much until I was diagnosed!! I hope you’re doing better and healing these days 💓 it’s a constant battle but we both deserve peaceful lives!! I still have most of the playlist on my Spotify it’s nostalgic but also the album was just a masterpiece in general
I find the point of view to be of the filmmakers to the audience themselves. Like, the movie tells a story of the abuse these girls suffered, but uses alternate realities to keep the creepy men in the audience entertained, until they have to experience the consequences of said abuse. When changing the setting is not enough, the movie subs the girls acting out their plan to the crazy fights. Then, they change protagonists: the cute school girl sacrifices herself to save Sweet Pea, who spent the whole movie skeptical of the plan, not having as big of a role or being as likeable as her now dead sister. And were back to reality where shes free, while our main character ends up lobotomized. Sucker punch forces the audience to watch a movie they would hate, while disguising it as something that caters to them. Its indeed the moviest movie to ever movie.
yess the message was there, now rewatching as adult i see. sweet pea in the second reality' opening scene saying how boring to the audience is a story about a lobotomized girl let's make it commercial. mr snyder had some things to say about what studios want to see in movies and what his audience want too.
This it it. I love seeing people criticise this movie while it's directly outing them and they can't even see the sucker punch even after it's hit them @@biptari
Bro, I cannot even tell you how grateful I am you chose this film to talk about. SO IMPACTFUL for the little girlies and NO ONE got it. The woman in media of the early 2000s-2010s were literally robbed of their flowers. This shit was a masterpiece then and still is now, much like Jennifer’s Body- we will not forget the initial reception, but we appreciate that it can become a cult classic. Thank you for covering this perfection with perfection 💚
It feels a little much to compare Jennifer's Body, a movie directed by a woman, that actually is a feminist and was misunderstood to... Snyder's attempt at empowerment, where all but one girl survives, also considering the role of women in all his other movies, Princess Weekes video about it is a really great video on the balance of enjoying and also being fair to what the film actually does
When I was in school, they discussed how Sucker Punch was a sexist movie that portrayed women as hypersexual beings etc etc, and I actually got sent out of the classroom bc i defended this movie with my WHOLE chest and argued with the teacher lmaooo
The extended is SO good aaaa. I liked the theatrical when I first saw it, but the extended cut adds SO much context, story, and ties up some plot holes, I LOVE it
Babydoll wants the lobotomy so she doesn't have to remember that she accidentally killed her sister. She wants it because it means she will be free in her own mind, free to think what she wants and go where she wants and nobody can stop her or hurt her anymore.
One thing I need to comment on about this movie is the first fight scene against the giant samurais. As a young teen who played a lot of video games when the movie came out, it always stuck to me how perfectly this scene captured the essence of an action game's tutorial. First you learn the bases of melee combat and how to parry/dodge. Then you learn how to use projectiles and deal with them. And then to finish the tutorial you unleash a powerful seemingly one hit kill move. It's how it's done in games like Bayonetta or Devil May Cry and to me it's proof that this movie has something it wants to comment on because it knows its source material (i.e broadly what geek culture was at the time) really well.
One of my favorite parts that hardly gets mentioned is that the final outfit baby doll has in the 2nd world is an inverse of her outfit of the 3rd world, like that was their final battle as well to get the key and escape.
hearing that emily browning allegedly had 3 layers of falsies on is what has stayed with me forever. she's one of the actresses of all time... main slayer indeed
@@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ a false set of eyelashes. its essentially make up. You use special glue to attach a strip of eyelashes to make your lashes appear thicker/longer. Wearing 3 stacked onop of eachother would feel quite heavy on the lids and be rather uncomfortable. Maybe they wanted her to look extra doll like
@@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ In the UK as a guy and absent any other context "falsies" made me think "false teeth" and boy was that a confusing few seconds. Three layers of false teeth?!
Crazy that my motherquakeomoeter on my mantle was going off the cunter scale and I had to check for iconic activity and found a magnitude 9 serve happening in real time
THIS MOVIE IS SO FUCKING GOOD. when i was at some really low, awful points in my mental health journey, this movie really left a mark on me, especially those final words. idc what people can critique about it, to me it was fantastic.
Thank you for starting this video with the reminder that ‘portrayal of something in fiction is not an endorsement of that thing’ because oh man is that a lesson that too many people have yet to learn.
I also wrote a film analysis on this in high school and, while written by a high schooler, also basically resulted in “most criticism of this film hates it for being misogynistic and gratuitous, but in reality is a commentary on those exact things and makes the statement that women are so much more than what we widdle them down to and celebrates that in spite of what box men, and men in power, force them into”.
it was made by Zack Snyder its exactly what it is 💀 trying to imagine that man was giving commentary on how women are treated is laughable, this is a take that women who love the movie invented to cope, its your interpretation its not what that man meant. Thinking ppl who criticised the movies obvious flaws “missed the point” is mad goofy and very far removed from reality
@@tonystonem9614what's so funny about this take is that there are literal interviews (even shown in this video!!) that back up these interpretations. It was always intended as a deeper reflection on women and the men who use them.
@@infinitedm5396it is valid to critique movies where you feel their commentary isn’t effective enough to outweigh problematic content. Remember the movie Cuties and all the scandal around it? Obviously that film was meant to critique the abuse and exploitation of children but the content was the type to put the child actors at risk and was highly suspicious to people for that reason. Just because you view this film as your feminist manifesto doesn’t mean there’s not validity in other people’s opinions. You didn’t make the movie- they’re not criticizing YOU. You don’t have to be defensive
i loved this movie growing up, total guilty pleasure and escapist fantasy😂😂 it released around the time i was really into Alice Madness Returns and both ticked very specific aesthetic and angst boxes in my little developing teen brain. I love the concept of a girl dissociating into a fantasy world creatively reflecting her present issues and environment in life and where she is allowed to process her anxieties and fears in brutal & violent fashion. It just slays and i am obsessed with it even at 26yrs old
I'm so happy to feel justified finally in my love for this film. Also fun fact my husband is ex military and when they storm the castle he has said they were using perfect military procedures and moves. Something he said never happens in films about the real military. So someone was paying attention to detail.
Also **SPOILER** when John Hamm lobotomizes her, I think it's a metaphor for the high-roller r*ping her; he says he wants her to want him, then is kind of disgusted when it flips and he says "did you see the way she looked at me?" as if he's done the deed and is like "why don't you look happy you just had sex!" after he's taken the last possible thing she has. I do think it's a pretty important scene to have cut from the final
I hadn't even considered that! But truly that is a VERY convincing perspective, and makes honestly so much sense both for the themes/movie as a whole, and for the character.
i ageee BUT he also says “it’s as if she wanted me to do it” so maybe he realized he actually never wanted her to want him. he wanted to overpower her and take her free will from her, and she refused to even give that to him, instead HE was HER pawn instead of the other way around
Which is the case for almost all rapists, it’s not about the sexual gratification it’s all about power and diminishing their victims making them an object and not a human capable of controlling what happens to them.
that ending was so shocking to me when i was a kid. it was like THE original plot twist, to see the "main character" not make it. i was like, M. Night Shyamalan who?
i think that when a girl dies in the second reality, they’re being lobotomized in the real world. that’s what happens to babydoll so it would make sense for the rest of them and gorski probably had signed off on them so it wasn’t an issue, which is why blue only got in trouble for babydoll. as far as the kid and old man i think that was just a way to try to tie the fake realities to the real world even though it didn’t really make sense, kind of an extension of the guardian angel thing
15:20 The integration of "Army of Me" into the movie is impeccably crafted. It serves as a powerful anthem, urging one to stand up for themselves, yet it cleverly allows pauses to punctuate moments of dialogue, accentuating Baby Doll's inner struggle as she fights for her life. Then, as Björk's piercing scream cuts through, accompanied by the escalating raw intensity of the industrial beats, it vividly underscores the surrealism of the situation, starkly reminding viewers of the film's fantastical realm. It's a sonic embodiment of the protagonist's furious desire to break free from the confines of her reality, urging us to join her in defiance against the oppressive forces at play.
in my memory I know sucker punch as “vanessa hudgen’s first movie post high school musical that my older sister really wanted to see but our mom wouldn’t let her and she’d remind me of it every time we’d see the poster of it in the Walmart poster carousel”
This movie just has some kind of allure to it, the whole aesthetic, badass female characters, EVERYTHING. It also felt like a bit of a fever dream movie, but in a good way.
To me, everything feels so stylised. It's like if one of my dreams got turned into a film. For example, Emilia looks like a doll the whole movie with the platinum hair and the huge doe eyelashes. Everything has this filter that makes it look sexy and alluring, yet dangerous and corrupt in the brothel reality. The opening sequence comes across as something straight from a horror movie. The fight scenes look like video games. Etc.
I remember I watched it in theaters because the trailer looked so sick and music bangin'. But I also remember it being "it's alright..." or even better described as "so movie" but learning there was extended cut makes me feel like I missed out, and makes sense why I thought it ended pretty oddly. But now i've been enlightened and agree. RELEASE THE SNYDER CUT!
sitting and watching while cradling my physical DVD, blu-ray and CD, and my 3D printed charms from babydoll's gun. i love this movie. thank you for your service
1. When I saw the thumbnail, I immediately ran to the nearest mic and gAGGGGGGED 2. Sucker Punch dreamed so Inception and Tenet could run 3. This movie… now I understand the shrines dedicated to Mr Synder himself. 4. This video summary & analysis… there must be an Oscar for this!!!!!
There's another layer: Zack is talking about the state of the art. Sucker Punch is a meta story that talks about the action genre, the industry of "blockbusters" and how women are a part of it. All his movies have another layer. "300" is about narratives, post-truth; Watchmen is about the superheroes genre, but released years before the fatigue; BvS is a commentary on US politics and also dives into modern mythologies. The ammount of layers are limitless.
And Watchmen is NOTTTTTT about the GENRE of superhero films. It’s making societal commentary that’s much bigger and deeper than critiquing Marvel’s sweatshop productions that didn’t even exist yet
@@maddieb.4282 It was not. It IS. Snyder said it himself as if Watchmen was transported by a time machine to the past. But, yep, Watchmen talks about genre as well beyond the political layer. I'll check it out, thanks.
mike has been killing it lately with the lesbian millennial/early gen z audience flicks!!! before i knew i was gay i knew that sucker punch and pitch perfect had "something special" (it was the women.)
@@dia8183 I was too but in like 2011 some random movie channel decided to play it on repeat every night and I just kept watching it over and over and over
When this movie came out I was a “working girl” at 19, and dealing with mountains of trauma. This movie spoke to me deeply, and even then I could clearly see it was a commentary on oversexualization of women. People take things at face value and never look deeper!!!
@@sarahshaw-sehgal1146 I love this so much for you babe!!! ❤️ you deserve all of the happiness in the world! Don’t you EVER forget that !! No matter what !
THANK YOU FOR THIS. All these years I've yet to see a reviewer notice that the story of Baby Doll was told by Sweet Pea, as shown in the beginning with Sweet Pea acting as Baby Doll in the theater, and every other friendly NPCs in the third realities are acted by the bus driver and the other occupants seen by Sweet Pea when she escaped because she don't know many people in the outside world other than those in that bus who in her mind, are the only ones on her side.
just want to point out that this was filmed a little before/at the same time as inception and nolan and snyder are friends and were already working on other projects together. All im saying is everyone hypes the inception reality/dream level thing but Suckerpunch kinda did it first (even tho the release date was later than inception)
Unexpected Essay Incoming: The complicated relationship between sweet pea, rocket and their mother, as well as the repeating theme of sister killing sister (both babydoll and sweet pea accidentally cause / were part of their sisters’ deaths) is so interesting and I wonder if it’s related to the 3rd fantasy world storyline. Having to kill the dragon baby and then the mother after she attacks them - also keeping in mind fighting and killing enemies in this world translates to dancing in the 3nd fantasy world and taking back your power / working through your issues in the real world suggests the guilt and trauma from that experience is something babydoll/sweet pea had to come to terms with, which was explored and worked through during that scene in order to be ‘free’ and heal. She also essentially gives the dragon a lobotomy (foreshadowing). Also in the animated short the knights and goblins are fighting over the dragon; the goblins worship the dragon in a religious way while the humans, seeing something more powerful than them as a threat believe they have to kill the dragon. This acts as a sort of 4th fantasy world and the way the goblin = evil stereotype is reversed and the fact this is never touched on in the theatrical release is a reminder that men are the real villains (blue, the high roller / doctor, the step-father) and the sexualised appearance of the girls is a defensive tool and commentary on that very male gaze perpetrated by the villains!
I haven't watched Sucker Punch since it first came out over a decade ago, but I snagged the blu-ray extended edition at Dollar Tree the other day. So tonight I watched it again. And it's breathtakingly wonderful. It's total eye candy from start to finish, and every single frame is absolutely stunning. This is enough to praise the film and ignore all of the hate it's gotten. But what the film really is, is a masterclass in creative storytelling, layering narrative on top of narrative on top of narrative and making sure that they all perfectly connect. But it also is worthy of praise for how whenever you're watching any one of these three narratives play out, they're so engrossing that you get totally sucked in and temporarily forget about the other two, until you're back in them. This movie deserves more love. The haters are insane and obviously couldn't keep up, or simply couldn't comprehend how deep it was while hidden behind the other two storylines.
I loved this movie when it came out it was so slay, but then it was so poorly reviewed i felt embarrassed for liking it. I’m glad to see somebody else thought it was a serve.
i remember looking up what the ending meant and finding out so many people disliked it. i was so shocked. this movie and burlesque were always in rotation
Suckerpunch is one of my favorite movies of all time and I am THRILLED that you made a video about it. I similarly haven’t stopped thinking about it for the past 13 years, bc the first time I saw it I was 13, on a plane, growing out my bangs, experimenting with bad eyeliner and realizing I was queer (also saw The Runaways for the first time on this flight) and I cannot express how perfectly timed my experience of this movie was. Def pulling out my Blu-ray the second I finish this video.
i LOVED sucker punch when i saw it in theatres. it was odd to me how so many people hated it, i was obsessed for months lol but i was also a 16yr old grunge chick, it was literally like a feature length movie about my aesthetic 😂
Sooo... Here is my theory about Blue killing the girls in the second world but we don't know what happened in the first because no one talked about it ; It's an unreliable narrator, that we know for sure. For me, the narrator is Sweet Pea who sees Baby Doll as her angel. She narrates everything "correctly" about what Baby Doll (the stabbing, fire, etc) because she doesn't see it as a bad thing, it's not traumatic for Sweet Pea. It's a good thing that helped her escap. Her sister death tho I think it's way more... Imaginary ? Deep ? Like, her sister is not physically dead but mentaly dead. When the cook tried to assault Rocket, she said that "Baby Doll SAVED her" as if she might have died (not saying that it wasn't horrible, but just talking about the choice of words) and the one who killed Rocket is the cook, the one who tried to assault her and looked at her weirdly when Rocket was showing Baby Doll around. My theory is that in the first world, Rocket was r-word by the cook, which resulted in her being mentaly dead, giving up on life. Becoming a vegetable. Same with Blondie and Amber but with Blue. The scene when Blue kills them, he tries to force himself onto Baby Doll and she stabs him telling him that he will never have her. The last time we see Blue, he tries to kiss Baby Doll but doesn't succeed because she set herself free before he could have a chance of touching her. So I think he abused Blondie and Amber to the point of them giving up on escaping, just accepting to stay behind and this is why Baby Doll said that Sweet Pea was the only one who could be saved, because she was the only one "untouched" by the other, who still has a chance to live without being traumatized by everything. Just a theory, a commentary on abuse on Girls in a place where they can't escape and are used by others. Like the first song says "Some of them want to abuse you".
15:28 Michael I have urgent news. The Sucker Punch Remix of Army of Me is indeed on spotify. You can find it under the dedicated Sucker Punch soundtrack compilation. Awful subheading to that though, it may not be available in Australia because it's currently greyed out for me when I look at the album (and I'm also Aussie).
@@mireilleryan-nicholls7730 I just checked and it's true. It sounds a bit different from the version I remember from Sucker Punch, but it goes imbecilically hard, so I won't question it too much. Thank you for solving what could have been an Apollyon class disaster. Edit: It is indeed different. The riff appears in both versions, but the one on spotify that's not under the Sucker Punch soundtrack starts with that riff rather than the slow bassy buildup. There must be some way of getting the real Sucker Punch version though because my dad has it on his computer in really high quality.
RELEASE THE SNYDER CUT!!! I cannot express how excited I am for the cultural resurgence of Sucker Punch!! I neeeed WB to give Snyder his reunion reshoots so he can give us the badass hot women scifi movie musical we DESERVE!!
sigh...the poor reception of this movie will never not make my blood boil. it's the most movie. i used to obsessively rewatch it and to this day it still holds so well both in terms of story telling and visuals.
i have loved this movie since it came out and i STILL have people look at me like i have two heads when i say i love it. truly the most movie ever, it changed me so irreversibly i have tattoos inspired by it
@@Daniel-kw8ns I think Emma would've been a good Amber but Amanda for Babydoll is iffy. I can see it going both ways. I'm happy with the cast we got in the end
_Such_ an underrated movie. Of course, it wasn't perfect (mostly a victim of some unfortunate editing choices that muddled the story a bit), but the stylistic experimentation was incredible, the music was _perfect,_ and the extended cut ending _significantly_ elevates the narrative of the film.
This movie was dominating mentally ill hot girlboss discourse while Gen Z Sanrio girls were getting their first piercing at Claires, truly a cultural benchmark🤭🎀💕
Thank youuu for giving this movie the flowers it deserves. My dad and I have loved it ever since we first saw it in theaters. Every time he wants to watch it, he'll say "you know son, I feel like being Sucker Punched." A special movie for me for sure ❤
The way I pretended to hate this movie because I thought I was supposed to, but eventually watched a lot of vid essays on it and read a lot, realized I did like it. Its truly so movie. Icons showed up to work and they did, and they movied in a movie. So slay. Very mother. The plot has been overexplained and overanalyzed by my inner teen, inner preteen, etc. And yes. Movie.
I saw this film with a friend and a four pack of Sofia Coppola canned rose (with matching pink straws), and we crushed them and it was my favorite film of 2011 by a MILE. By a MARATHON. By 26.2 thigh chafing, nipple bleeding, nearly entirely CGI action sequences. I adored what it did from the start, and I will be INSUFFERABLE about it for the rest of my life.
No, because genuinely "it's so movie" is such a perfect description. Not "it's so movie" (derogatory) but "it's so movie" (affectionate), and I will DEFEND my so movie. The girls who get it, get it (we're insane, babes, good for us tho)
I think the third theory ties it all together the best. Babydoll is Sweet Pea, or at least a projection of her. She feels responsible for the death of her sister, she feels she’s lost power of her situation and just wants to escape. That’s why Dr. john hamm says that after Babydoll is lobotomized, because it’s actually Sweet Pea who was lobotomized and she feels relief in that she has successfully escaped the reality in which all these terrible things have happened. The old man and the kid on the bus, never really there, hence why they’re in multiple layers of reality. I still don’t entirely get what the old man represents. I know he’s like another guardian angel, but while Sweet Pea and Babydoll are clearly connected, I ain’t sure where the old man comes in. Is he someone who works at the asylum? The doctor?
I have a history with this film! I watched it with a bunch of guys who were into anime and the fight scenes just werent my bag despite how beautiful and sensational they are. I then fell down a rabbit hole about lobotomies (PSA- don't) and was like im informed but still missing some crumbs of context so i watched the extended cut and it made more sense and then i loved it! And now you've just certified it as a club classic mr mxcxm
This mothered before Ocean’s 8 could even auntie
Spot on
Real👏
chrewly 😌
What 😭
Well yes!
“Release the Snyder cut” is a sentence I never thought I’d hear Michael’s microphone say
and MEAN it
Michael's microphone 🤣
@@yanniesays Michaela‘s Megaphone if you will🤭
@@yanniesays his government name LMFAO
Not going to lie… The pop culture surrounding “Quiet on Set” with Dan Schneider…. Makes the “Release the Snyder cut” sound TERRIBLE. Thank goodness for the spelling in the comment section saying Snyder and not Schneider
Sucker punch is what every live action anime wants to be.
It really was giving feisty anime gals with fu*ed up backstories tea
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True, except One Piece, that one is actually good.
@missserenity1090 Yeah, because that's parody lmao. 🙄😒.
@@Inconstructionmaybe-x5v No that’s not what a parody is. It’s a live action adaption. One Piece did a good job at adapting the anime.
snyder tweeting about this video is literally everything
What did blud say?
@@Δ-Δ-Δ-ΔI’m cryinggggg at this rn
"In honor of the 13th anniversary of Sucker Punch, check this out, because Mike's right, it's so movie."
@@erukei_fucking beautiful
@@erukei_ That's awesome!
When mike picks up that mic, you know it’s time to listen
universal law
Oh honey we stay ready
Rule of nature
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Never seen this movie and I have no idea what's going on but I listen
also the fact that Babydolls's katana is engraved with the illustration of her entire journey up to the lobotomy 🤯
Katana?
@@hoganalexander9287 yeah, her sword
Omg
Baby doll said that guardian angels could be 3 things: an old man, a girl, and a kid. They were all of sweet peas angels to help her escape. Baby doll helped get her out, The kid didn't do much but maybe he was a sign that she was on the right path, and the old man lied to get the cops away from her
WHATTTTTTTT
IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE NOW
I guess the main critique for the movie now is that it’s too hectic for a viewer to realistically get all those parallels and nuances on the first watch.
@@egorpozdnyakov8812 this movie wasn’t received properly because the world wasn’t ready for alternate realities happening at the same time or movies with many parallels. back then the mainstream wasn’t used to multiverses/AUs/parallels. Alternatively now most movies use that premise, i.e. EEAAO, Marvel, DC
@egorpozdnyakov8812 another reason why I love the movie as someone who rewatches things to infinity. But yes, you are right.
My friends had me to explain what was going on otherwise I don't think they would have been that patient to rewatch it again.
Sucker Punch, Charlie's Angels and Jennifer's Body...the trifecta of movies made especially for the phrase "the girls who get it get it and the girls who don't don't and if you don't get it I feel sorry for you" NO, I will not elaborate
SO TRUE BESTIE
you don't need to elaborate, because the girls who get it get it and the girls who don't don't and if they don't get it I feel sorry for them ✨
Almost finished the trifecta. Time to watch Charlie’s Angels
@@XxKawaiiCookies be careful…Lucy Liu in that movie turned me bisexual 😔✊🏾🏳️🌈
@@leavesandwhiskers EXACTLLLYYYYY
“Movies that film bros hate because they can’t imagine a movie isn’t for them or about them” is my favourite genre of movie. ❤
Ironically, the people who hated it tended to be left-leaning journalists because "scantily clad women must mean misogynist messaging" and "regular" people, both men and women, who didn't understand that there actually was a story to go with the visuals and/or who agreed with the journalists. Something so disheartening about the message the movie was trying to convey being ignored because a good chunk of the audience saw women being exploited/abused, still being strong despite that, and thought, "well, nothing of substance could possibly be here" just because of how the women were dressed and because Snyder made the movie visually appealing.
@@Haylla2008 some his 14 year old fans called it woke so
@mimorisenpai8540 ah yes I remember when people said "woke" before 2010
I work as a stripper and it would interest many of u to know that the clubs play bjork army of me for stage dances!! I swear to god the influence this movie STILL has…
Oh my god love this
Waittttttt
The sound track was super super iconic one of my all time favorite movie soundtracks
I legit came to the comments to say this too! I swear this movie subconsciously inspired my decision to become a dancer.
motherrr
obsessed with mike just sitting in front of his regular filming set up instead of just being … at his set up 😭😭
I have to keep people guessing!!!!
The second reality of it all
never let them know your next move
he wanted to show off his legos!!
I don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but the original script is available online. I have been obsessed with this movie for years and collected all the tidbits about what was in the original cut, reading the script was pretty revelatory. It's much more cohesive than even the extended version and it's more of an emotional gut punch. I really recommend reading it.
Ive tried to find this online but no success haha, do you have a link to the original script? x
Do you have the link perhaps? I’ve looked for over an hour
drive.google.com/file/d/1xIRPD20LZV3Jqus6aqq_lq6HQldTRey6/view
@@LuciarafficornxD drive.google.com/file/d/1xIRPD20LZV3Jqus6aqq_lq6HQldTRey6/view
@@nic558 drive.google.com/file/d/1xIRPD20LZV3Jqus6aqq_lq6HQldTRey6/view
Oscar Isaac's mustache fathered so severely, so destructively that it ripped a hole in the space time continuum
he could rip my hole
Sometimes I wish I could send money to people like you, who write these types of absolutely creative, incredible, whimsical comments.
@@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ ask for their Venmo
also on another note- if y’all have not ever looked up the PROP DESIGN in this movie, you are missing out. baby dolls gun and sword are so detailed and really are personalized to her character. they have little charms on them and it’s just so good. the attention to detail with design is so under appreciated.
TWIN BESTIE
@@CherryGumdrops707 i never see anyone w this pic anymore what a serve
yesss i had so many plans to recreate her weapons when i was still a teenager and believed i would have money someday 😂 it's still on the lottery list
@@mccrackenz the delusion in me is still thinks that the actual props will be sold again and not for thousands like they were 😅 and the even deeper delusion in me is convinced i’d be able to afford them lmaooo
I remember looking up their weapon designs and being really impressed. The charms for Babydoll were a great touch.
This video makes me feel so seen. I watched it at a sleepover when I was like 12, it really had an impact on my friend group. We felt empowered by it in a way that's hard to explain. It didn't feel like women were being objectified by the camera, it felt like the camera was exposing how women in vulnerable positions are objectified. Those are two different things. The fact that so many people didn't see that at the time isn't surprising though.
Awesome! It seems that many haters feel like women aren't smart enough to get that on their own. That they have to protect the women from any kind of freedom of expression they may be "victims" to, even if it's really about self-empowerment.
sucker punch is also a beautiful commentary on the origins of the ballet. being pimped out is actually what original ballerinas had to do to survive and fund their dance studios. it’s like if fran bow was black swan- absolutely insane
Dancing troupes and sex work gone hand in hand for long time and many cultures. Beautiful people that knew what to do with their body always gathered attention of this kind, consensual or not
Work? More like exploitation. Consent is irrelevant if there's no desire. That's what draws the line between s ex and r ape.
Get out! That’s *wild* 😆
Thank you in advance for my descent down this rabbit hole.
Sounds like geishas.
@@MatthewTheWanderer every culture has their own term and elaborate customs for how they systematically pressured women into selling their bodies to survive
This movie is iconic in ways that cannot be expressed. Rewatched it dozens of times as a kid and probably my queer awakening lmao
I think this was a lot of people's queer awakening. Rightfully so
Same! I was so shocked when I saw this video because I thought I'd dreamt up this movie on account of no one around me knowing it😭
Saaaame
I watched this prolly two or three times as a kid and i barely remember it, it was like a fever dream! The biggest thing i remember is that i loved it so so much, especially the main character. I wanted to be her sooo bad plssss 😭😭
omg me too
I have always loved Sucker Punch. My introvert, anxiety-ridden self had the courage to cosplay as Baby Doll for a convention and I got so many compliments and girls wanting photos with me saying how much they loved the movie. We understood it. Thank you for making this video. Sucker Punch is so underrated and misunderstood.
People bash this movie for exploiting women but I'm like....that's the point? These women ARE exploited in a mental hospital so much so the main character easily fantasizes it as a brothel and the whole film revolves around her emotionally empowering herself and others to weave an escape plan and free themselves from their mistreatment. The movie is feminist at its core but the majority see skimpy outfits and women in suggestive situations they can't escape and immediately get mad.
(This blew up holy shit)
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY, HOLY HECK
i remember seeing this movie as a kid and really enjoying it, understanding a deeper meaning but not able to explain it. definitely gotta rewatch now
YESSSSS!!! was looking for this comment!
omg it was actually my little brother who pointed this out to me lol it's still one of his favorite movies ever and he owns a copy of it
Feminism is dead
“I wanna eat it” was so out of pocket I bust out laughing in the middle of the university library and so many ppl stared.
That wasn't what I was expecting him to say AT ALL, my tea came out of my nose 😂
Wait. When did he say it? 😭
17:35 !
@@wassupkevin
@@wassupkevin on 17:35
I thought he said "and now we're eating"
i will never forgive the world for not fighting harder for this movie, i love it sm
Sucker Punch is my comfort movie. When that "You have all the weapons you need. Now fight." line drops, I'm ready to exist again.
Bro this movie stuck in my head since the day I saw it so much that I was able to remember the title and thumbnail detail by detail as soon as I saw it on Netflix. I'm still looking for the directors cut tho cuz that was the version I watched first
Nah really though‼️‼️
this movie was stylish as HELL and for all its flaws in the plot/themes level, it was such a ride visually and audio wise. kind of a guilty pleasure movie to me
i think Babydoll IS Sweetpea and Rocket is Babydoll’s sister that she killed in the beginning. the part at the beginning is the reason why Sweetpea is there and NONE of the other girls are real/just other patients at the hospital that Sweetpea has made up this friendship with to cope. That’s why when the three of them die there’s no repercussions in the 1st reality because Rocket had already died, and the friendship and camaraderie with other girls was imaginary/Sweetpea doesn’t know what happened to them and can only assume (Imagine) the worst
That would explain why Sweatpea and Babydoll are both portraying the same traumatic event... It does explain, however, how Sweetpea would have a traumatic lobotomy story from prior to following Rocket to Lenox. Unless... They're prepping the girl for their upcoming lobotomy and she said no in character and has since accepted it by the end. She could even still be in the asylum and her dream world is running away on the bus. But "she helped someone get away".... Who's that someone, if not herself??
That's a pretty valid theory
It would also explain why the stage where Sweetpea is reliving her trauma for therapy is the same set dressing as Babydoll's room in the intro!
Did anyone else notice that all the battles from the 3rd reality are genres usually associated (and gatekept) by men?: “Samurai” movies, WW# movies, LOTR-esque fantasy movies, and then I would consider that last one like “I, Robot” futuristic technology movies
Movies in genres that exclude or minimise women as much as possible, at that!
...any intresting exceptions to that?
Id like to broaden my horizon
omfg I can’t believe I didn’t pick up on this
WAIT
That's the most central point of the film. The men sitting in dark rooms protected by anonymity are US when the fantasy sequences begin.
Back when this movie came out my friends and I (who loved it) always described it as, "Either a dumb movie made by a smart person, or a smart movie made by a dumb person" and I still stand by that
Zach Snyder thinks Rorschach is Superman so I agree
I'd wager the latter.
@@petrify4814?? When did he say that
@@barbaravs1814he never said that. It's just usual clowns who fail at media literacy
@@ndo533 I know, that's why I asked for proof bc people love to believe anything shitty about Snyder and it's insane.
As a CPTSD girly who heavily dissociated in her youth I ate this movie up when it came out. It’s still one of my faves to this day and will defend it with my life. Love love love this deep dive
ME
Same girl, same.
The funny thing about me is that I saw this movie before my C-PTSD had truly manifested itself as whilst I already had a few minor traumas most of the big ones came after watching this movie. If anything, the more I grew the more I understood the dark place that Babydoll was at and the more I loved it when I was already one of the girlies who ate this movie. It was almost like an omen of, 'this is going to be how you feel in a few years ahead'.
@@inferiorinferno8859 it was the same for me!! I didn’t really understand why I felt like I understood it so much until I was diagnosed!! I hope you’re doing better and healing these days 💓 it’s a constant battle but we both deserve peaceful lives!! I still have most of the playlist on my Spotify it’s nostalgic but also the album was just a masterpiece in general
Michael Microphone calls and the gworls answer
I find the point of view to be of the filmmakers to the audience themselves. Like, the movie tells a story of the abuse these girls suffered, but uses alternate realities to keep the creepy men in the audience entertained, until they have to experience the consequences of said abuse. When changing the setting is not enough, the movie subs the girls acting out their plan to the crazy fights. Then, they change protagonists: the cute school girl sacrifices herself to save Sweet Pea, who spent the whole movie skeptical of the plan, not having as big of a role or being as likeable as her now dead sister. And were back to reality where shes free, while our main character ends up lobotomized. Sucker punch forces the audience to watch a movie they would hate, while disguising it as something that caters to them. Its indeed the moviest movie to ever movie.
yess the message was there, now rewatching as adult i see. sweet pea in the second reality' opening scene saying how boring to the audience is a story about a lobotomized girl let's make it commercial. mr snyder had some things to say about what studios want to see in movies and what his audience want too.
you can almost say that for said audience, the movie was a sucker punch...
Yes this feels like a helpful layer to figuring it out. It’s not the whole of the explanation as to ~what~ is happening, but it explains ~why~
This it it. I love seeing people criticise this movie while it's directly outing them and they can't even see the sucker punch even after it's hit them @@biptari
Absolutely howling at "it's very gray, grimy...which could describe some of you, yes"
The way I nodded too
suckerpunch feels like the evil twin of burlesque 2010
I feel like burlesque is the evil twin 😂
wow those are both my comfort movies lol
I LOLd at this, thankew
The best movies to ever movie
REAL
Bro, I cannot even tell you how grateful I am you chose this film to talk about. SO IMPACTFUL for the little girlies and NO ONE got it. The woman in media of the early 2000s-2010s were literally robbed of their flowers. This shit was a masterpiece then and still is now, much like Jennifer’s Body- we will not forget the initial reception, but we appreciate that it can become a cult classic. Thank you for covering this perfection with perfection 💚
It feels a little much to compare Jennifer's Body, a movie directed by a woman, that actually is a feminist and was misunderstood to... Snyder's attempt at empowerment, where all but one girl survives, also considering the role of women in all his other movies, Princess Weekes video about it is a really great video on the balance of enjoying and also being fair to what the film actually does
JENNIFER'S BODY AND SUCKERPUNCH SIT AT THE SAME LUNCH TABLE
“We’ll never forget 😢😢😢” babe I mean it’s a mid budget action movie, you aren’t marching with the freedom fighters
I've always perceived this movie as being they go to these fantasy worlds as a sort of coping mechanism for the protagonists
When I was in school, they discussed how Sucker Punch was a sexist movie that portrayed women as hypersexual beings etc etc, and I actually got sent out of the classroom bc i defended this movie with my WHOLE chest and argued with the teacher lmaooo
Sucker Punch is clever and underrated. Emily Browning is a certified perfect actress to play such deranged characters in film.
^All true... Have you seen 'Sleeping Beauty'? So weird... Maximum excellent... She is incredible...
I just watched "Class of 07", she is a really good comedic access as well and her real accent is slay
She can sing too.
i have watched this movie countless times and am only now realizing I've been watching the theatrical cut, this is a CRIME
NOOOOOOOO 😂
Same
Same😂
I've seen the end scene with the high roller, but NOT the more explicit framing of him, or ANY scene with an actual dance performance!! 😱
The extended is SO good aaaa. I liked the theatrical when I first saw it, but the extended cut adds SO much context, story, and ties up some plot holes, I LOVE it
Babydoll wants the lobotomy so she doesn't have to remember that she accidentally killed her sister. She wants it because it means she will be free in her own mind, free to think what she wants and go where she wants and nobody can stop her or hurt her anymore.
I never saw it as babydoll killed her sister... maybe I watched it wrong
What?.
Great explanation!
One thing I need to comment on about this movie is the first fight scene against the giant samurais.
As a young teen who played a lot of video games when the movie came out, it always stuck to me how perfectly this scene captured the essence of an action game's tutorial.
First you learn the bases of melee combat and how to parry/dodge.
Then you learn how to use projectiles and deal with them.
And then to finish the tutorial you unleash a powerful seemingly one hit kill move.
It's how it's done in games like Bayonetta or Devil May Cry and to me it's proof that this movie has something it wants to comment on because it knows its source material (i.e broadly what geek culture was at the time) really well.
Oh GAGGED
Yea. Definitely intentional.
Stop It omg. I love this film it's so underrated. The costumes and makeup are gorgeous and Emily browning can sing, act, fight and dance.
Love her in American Gods as Laura Moon.
She is my favorite actress.
One of my favorite parts that hardly gets mentioned is that the final outfit baby doll has in the 2nd world is an inverse of her outfit of the 3rd world, like that was their final battle as well to get the key and escape.
hearing that emily browning allegedly had 3 layers of falsies on is what has stayed with me forever. she's one of the actresses of all time... main slayer indeed
What's a falsie?
@@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ a false set of eyelashes. its essentially make up. You use special glue to attach a strip of eyelashes to make your lashes appear thicker/longer. Wearing 3 stacked onop of eachother would feel quite heavy on the lids and be rather uncomfortable. Maybe they wanted her to look extra doll like
@@miniyupi3766 It's weird, because I'm a guy and my eyelashes are thick as f*ck.
My mum says they look like those of a giraffe 😂
@@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ Men notoriously have great lashes while we stack falsies on top of each other 😅 *hiss*
@@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ In the UK as a guy and absent any other context "falsies" made me think "false teeth" and boy was that a confusing few seconds. Three layers of false teeth?!
Crazy that my motherquakeomoeter on my mantle was going off the cunter scale and I had to check for iconic activity and found a magnitude 9 serve happening in real time
yeah
None of these words are in the Bible
THIS MOVIE IS SO FUCKING GOOD. when i was at some really low, awful points in my mental health journey, this movie really left a mark on me, especially those final words. idc what people can critique about it, to me it was fantastic.
I read the title and immediately, out loud, said, “It iiiiiiiiis😭”
"When we're all born, Saturn's somewhere" NOT THE ETERNAL SUNSHINE REFERENCE
Thank you for starting this video with the reminder that ‘portrayal of something in fiction is not an endorsement of that thing’ because oh man is that a lesson that too many people have yet to learn.
I remember being fully convinced this movie was a comic adaptation, its stun
I also wrote a film analysis on this in high school and, while written by a high schooler, also basically resulted in “most criticism of this film hates it for being misogynistic and gratuitous, but in reality is a commentary on those exact things and makes the statement that women are so much more than what we widdle them down to and celebrates that in spite of what box men, and men in power, force them into”.
Was that a pun on whittle down?
it was made by Zack Snyder its exactly what it is 💀 trying to imagine that man was giving commentary on how women are treated is laughable, this is a take that women who love the movie invented to cope, its your interpretation its not what that man meant. Thinking ppl who criticised the movies obvious flaws “missed the point” is mad goofy and very far removed from reality
@@tonystonem9614spot on.
@@tonystonem9614what's so funny about this take is that there are literal interviews (even shown in this video!!) that back up these interpretations. It was always intended as a deeper reflection on women and the men who use them.
@@infinitedm5396it is valid to critique movies where you feel their commentary isn’t effective enough to outweigh problematic content. Remember the movie Cuties and all the scandal around it? Obviously that film was meant to critique the abuse and exploitation of children but the content was the type to put the child actors at risk and was highly suspicious to people for that reason. Just because you view this film as your feminist manifesto doesn’t mean there’s not validity in other people’s opinions. You didn’t make the movie- they’re not criticizing YOU. You don’t have to be defensive
i loved this movie growing up, total guilty pleasure and escapist fantasy😂😂 it released around the time i was really into Alice Madness Returns and both ticked very specific aesthetic and angst boxes in my little developing teen brain. I love the concept of a girl dissociating into a fantasy world creatively reflecting her present issues and environment in life and where she is allowed to process her anxieties and fears in brutal & violent fashion. It just slays and i am obsessed with it even at 26yrs old
Same same same, for all those things. They're beautiful escapism. 💕
I'm so happy to feel justified finally in my love for this film. Also fun fact my husband is ex military and when they storm the castle he has said they were using perfect military procedures and moves. Something he said never happens in films about the real military. So someone was paying attention to detail.
So your husband killed ppl?
Also **SPOILER** when John Hamm lobotomizes her, I think it's a metaphor for the high-roller r*ping her; he says he wants her to want him, then is kind of disgusted when it flips and he says "did you see the way she looked at me?" as if he's done the deed and is like "why don't you look happy you just had sex!" after he's taken the last possible thing she has. I do think it's a pretty important scene to have cut from the final
I hadn't even considered that! But truly that is a VERY convincing perspective, and makes honestly so much sense both for the themes/movie as a whole, and for the character.
This makes so much sense!!! I was so confused as to why he said that.
i ageee BUT he also says “it’s as if she wanted me to do it” so maybe he realized he actually never wanted her to want him. he wanted to overpower her and take her free will from her, and she refused to even give that to him, instead HE was HER pawn instead of the other way around
Which is the case for almost all rapists, it’s not about the sexual gratification it’s all about power and diminishing their victims making them an object and not a human capable of controlling what happens to them.
@@EmmaOffensiv you're so spot on
that ending was so shocking to me when i was a kid. it was like THE original plot twist, to see the "main character" not make it. i was like, M. Night Shyamalan who?
Moment of appreciation for the lego cat in the background
Omg yeah how did I not notice it
i think that when a girl dies in the second reality, they’re being lobotomized in the real world. that’s what happens to babydoll so it would make sense for the rest of them and gorski probably had signed off on them so it wasn’t an issue, which is why blue only got in trouble for babydoll. as far as the kid and old man i think that was just a way to try to tie the fake realities to the real world even though it didn’t really make sense, kind of an extension of the guardian angel thing
!!!!!!!!
The soundtrack for this film was so good.
The cover of 'Sing Me To Sleep' filled my little emo heart with so much joy.
15:20 The integration of "Army of Me" into the movie is impeccably crafted.
It serves as a powerful anthem, urging one to stand up for themselves, yet it cleverly allows pauses to punctuate moments of dialogue, accentuating Baby Doll's inner struggle as she fights for her life. Then, as Björk's piercing scream cuts through, accompanied by the escalating raw intensity of the industrial beats, it vividly underscores the surrealism of the situation, starkly reminding viewers of the film's fantastical realm. It's a sonic embodiment of the protagonist's furious desire to break free from the confines of her reality, urging us to join her in defiance against the oppressive forces at play.
I love Björk.
in my memory I know sucker punch as “vanessa hudgen’s first movie post high school musical that my older sister really wanted to see but our mom wouldn’t let her and she’d remind me of it every time we’d see the poster of it in the Walmart poster carousel”
only person I’ve ever heard do this film ANY kind of justice !! chefs kiss
This movie just has some kind of allure to it, the whole aesthetic, badass female characters, EVERYTHING.
It also felt like a bit of a fever dream movie, but in a good way.
To me, everything feels so stylised.
It's like if one of my dreams got turned into a film.
For example, Emilia looks like a doll the whole movie with the platinum hair and the huge doe eyelashes.
Everything has this filter that makes it look sexy and alluring, yet dangerous and corrupt in the brothel reality.
The opening sequence comes across as something straight from a horror movie.
The fight scenes look like video games.
Etc.
@@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ Agreed, I am sad this movie wasn’t more popular, I personally thought it was pretty good.
@@pixility5612 Yep, should've been more popular.
Maybe the world was not ready for it.
I remember I watched it in theaters because the trailer looked so sick and music bangin'. But I also remember it being "it's alright..." or even better described as "so movie" but learning there was extended cut makes me feel like I missed out, and makes sense why I thought it ended pretty oddly.
But now i've been enlightened and agree. RELEASE THE SNYDER CUT!
i love it when mike mics
sitting and watching while cradling my physical DVD, blu-ray and CD, and my 3D printed charms from babydoll's gun. i love this movie. thank you for your service
Mikes Mic saying “it’s so movie” is the same vibe of Harry Styles saying “my favorite part about the movie is that it feels like a REAL movie”
1. When I saw the thumbnail, I immediately ran to the nearest mic and gAGGGGGGED
2. Sucker Punch dreamed so Inception and Tenet could run
3. This movie… now I understand the shrines dedicated to Mr Synder himself.
4. This video summary & analysis… there must be an Oscar for this!!!!!
There's another layer: Zack is talking about the state of the art. Sucker Punch is a meta story that talks about the action genre, the industry of "blockbusters" and how women are a part of it. All his movies have another layer. "300" is about narratives, post-truth; Watchmen is about the superheroes genre, but released years before the fatigue; BvS is a commentary on US politics and also dives into modern mythologies. The ammount of layers are limitless.
I’d highly recommend check out Big Joel’s video analyzing the politics of 300, it’s pretty revelatory
And Watchmen is NOTTTTTT about the GENRE of superhero films. It’s making societal commentary that’s much bigger and deeper than critiquing Marvel’s sweatshop productions that didn’t even exist yet
@@maddieb.4282 It was not. It IS. Snyder said it himself as if Watchmen was transported by a time machine to the past. But, yep, Watchmen talks about genre as well beyond the political layer. I'll check it out, thanks.
please never stop doing the olivia wilde reaction it gives me so much life 😭😭
is it a mike's mic video w/out an olivia wilde nodding reference???
mike has been killing it lately with the lesbian millennial/early gen z audience flicks!!! before i knew i was gay i knew that sucker punch and pitch perfect had "something special" (it was the women.)
Have you perhaps seen "Catwoman" (2004)
@@Musicanimedork01 not yet but i've been meaning to! i was a bit too young to see it when it came out
@@dia8183 I was too but in like 2011 some random movie channel decided to play it on repeat every night and I just kept watching it over and over and over
I feel personally attacked by this comment, lmao. My little egg self watching the trailers like "I'm not into Action, but I really wanna see this?"
When this movie came out I was a “working girl” at 19, and dealing with mountains of trauma. This movie spoke to me deeply, and even then I could clearly see it was a commentary on oversexualization of women. People take things at face value and never look deeper!!!
❤ exactly. Hopefully you are out of all of that and doing better 🙏🏽
@@Healthevoid I am so happy now ♥️ thank you!
@@sarahshaw-sehgal1146 I love this so much for you babe!!! ❤️ you deserve all of the happiness in the world! Don’t you EVER forget that !! No matter what !
THANK YOU FOR THIS.
All these years I've yet to see a reviewer notice that the story of Baby Doll was told by Sweet Pea, as shown in the beginning with Sweet Pea acting as Baby Doll in the theater, and every other friendly NPCs in the third realities are acted by the bus driver and the other occupants seen by Sweet Pea when she escaped because she don't know many people in the outside world other than those in that bus who in her mind, are the only ones on her side.
just want to point out that this was filmed a little before/at the same time as inception and nolan and snyder are friends and were already working on other projects together. All im saying is everyone hypes the inception reality/dream level thing but Suckerpunch kinda did it first (even tho the release date was later than inception)
I am so glad this movie is (kind of) getting its flowers now! It’s fucking amazing and deserved so much more back then 😤
Unexpected Essay Incoming:
The complicated relationship between sweet pea, rocket and their mother, as well as the repeating theme of sister killing sister (both babydoll and sweet pea accidentally cause / were part of their sisters’ deaths) is so interesting and I wonder if it’s related to the 3rd fantasy world storyline.
Having to kill the dragon baby and then the mother after she attacks them - also keeping in mind fighting and killing enemies in this world translates to dancing in the 3nd fantasy world and taking back your power / working through your issues in the real world suggests the guilt and trauma from that experience is something babydoll/sweet pea had to come to terms with, which was explored and worked through during that scene in order to be ‘free’ and heal. She also essentially gives the dragon a lobotomy (foreshadowing).
Also in the animated short the knights and goblins are fighting over the dragon; the goblins worship the dragon in a religious way while the humans, seeing something more powerful than them as a threat believe they have to kill the dragon. This acts as a sort of 4th fantasy world and the way the goblin = evil stereotype is reversed and the fact this is never touched on in the theatrical release is a reminder that men are the real villains (blue, the high roller / doctor, the step-father) and the sexualised appearance of the girls is a defensive tool and commentary on that very male gaze perpetrated by the villains!
I've been defending this movie since 2014 ty for your service
I haven't watched Sucker Punch since it first came out over a decade ago, but I snagged the blu-ray extended edition at Dollar Tree the other day. So tonight I watched it again. And it's breathtakingly wonderful. It's total eye candy from start to finish, and every single frame is absolutely stunning. This is enough to praise the film and ignore all of the hate it's gotten. But what the film really is, is a masterclass in creative storytelling, layering narrative on top of narrative on top of narrative and making sure that they all perfectly connect. But it also is worthy of praise for how whenever you're watching any one of these three narratives play out, they're so engrossing that you get totally sucked in and temporarily forget about the other two, until you're back in them.
This movie deserves more love. The haters are insane and obviously couldn't keep up, or simply couldn't comprehend how deep it was while hidden behind the other two storylines.
I loved this movie when it came out it was so slay, but then it was so poorly reviewed i felt embarrassed for liking it. I’m glad to see somebody else thought it was a serve.
i was a teen girl when it came out and it was so important to me!! showing how sisterhood and female friendships are a necessity for survival
@@jeccalou9894 well said
i remember looking up what the ending meant and finding out so many people disliked it. i was so shocked. this movie and burlesque were always in rotation
Suckerpunch is one of my favorite movies of all time and I am THRILLED that you made a video about it. I similarly haven’t stopped thinking about it for the past 13 years, bc the first time I saw it I was 13, on a plane, growing out my bangs, experimenting with bad eyeliner and realizing I was queer (also saw The Runaways for the first time on this flight) and I cannot express how perfectly timed my experience of this movie was. Def pulling out my Blu-ray the second I finish this video.
i LOVED sucker punch when i saw it in theatres. it was odd to me how so many people hated it, i was obsessed for months lol
but i was also a 16yr old grunge chick, it was literally like a feature length movie about my aesthetic 😂
i can’t believe zack snyder knows about this video
HE KNOWS??? Link pls omggg
@@Knives.424ehe tweeted about it, yeah
Mike filming all of his videos from 17 different angles in the same room is so funny to me 😭
Sooo... Here is my theory about Blue killing the girls in the second world but we don't know what happened in the first because no one talked about it ;
It's an unreliable narrator, that we know for sure. For me, the narrator is Sweet Pea who sees Baby Doll as her angel. She narrates everything "correctly" about what Baby Doll (the stabbing, fire, etc) because she doesn't see it as a bad thing, it's not traumatic for Sweet Pea. It's a good thing that helped her escap.
Her sister death tho I think it's way more... Imaginary ? Deep ? Like, her sister is not physically dead but mentaly dead. When the cook tried to assault Rocket, she said that "Baby Doll SAVED her" as if she might have died (not saying that it wasn't horrible, but just talking about the choice of words) and the one who killed Rocket is the cook, the one who tried to assault her and looked at her weirdly when Rocket was showing Baby Doll around.
My theory is that in the first world, Rocket was r-word by the cook, which resulted in her being mentaly dead, giving up on life. Becoming a vegetable. Same with Blondie and Amber but with Blue.
The scene when Blue kills them, he tries to force himself onto Baby Doll and she stabs him telling him that he will never have her. The last time we see Blue, he tries to kiss Baby Doll but doesn't succeed because she set herself free before he could have a chance of touching her. So I think he abused Blondie and Amber to the point of them giving up on escaping, just accepting to stay behind and this is why Baby Doll said that Sweet Pea was the only one who could be saved, because she was the only one "untouched" by the other, who still has a chance to live without being traumatized by everything.
Just a theory, a commentary on abuse on Girls in a place where they can't escape and are used by others. Like the first song says "Some of them want to abuse you".
this is really a good theory
15:28 Michael I have urgent news. The Sucker Punch Remix of Army of Me is indeed on spotify. You can find it under the dedicated Sucker Punch soundtrack compilation. Awful subheading to that though, it may not be available in Australia because it's currently greyed out for me when I look at the album (and I'm also Aussie).
it's on spotify if u search for 'army of me - sucker punch remix' (in aus!)
@@mireilleryan-nicholls7730 I just checked and it's true. It sounds a bit different from the version I remember from Sucker Punch, but it goes imbecilically hard, so I won't question it too much. Thank you for solving what could have been an Apollyon class disaster.
Edit: It is indeed different. The riff appears in both versions, but the one on spotify that's not under the Sucker Punch soundtrack starts with that riff rather than the slow bassy buildup. There must be some way of getting the real Sucker Punch version though because my dad has it on his computer in really high quality.
RELEASE THE SNYDER CUT!!! I cannot express how excited I am for the cultural resurgence of Sucker Punch!! I neeeed WB to give Snyder his reunion reshoots so he can give us the badass hot women scifi movie musical we DESERVE!!
Just went and bought this and watched it with my boyfriend. The only thing we could say was “camp”. This movie is INSANE.
sigh...the poor reception of this movie will never not make my blood boil. it's the most movie. i used to obsessively rewatch it and to this day it still holds so well both in terms of story telling and visuals.
I don't get how Scott Pilgrim was praised but this was considered bad.
"Yes, Magnets, come on Disclosure" was for ME
Disclosure mention
i have loved this movie since it came out and i STILL have people look at me like i have two heads when i say i love it. truly the most movie ever, it changed me so irreversibly i have tattoos inspired by it
Also fun fact, Emma Stone was lined up to be in Sucker Punch but dropped out for Easy A
Which character was she potentially going to be?
@@CallMeMeepMeIfYouWannaReachMeshe was going to be Amber. Amanda Seyfried was also in line to play Babydoll.
@@Daniel-kw8ns I think Emma would've been a good Amber but Amanda for Babydoll is iffy. I can see it going both ways. I'm happy with the cast we got in the end
Suckerpunch invented girlboss feminism
500th
It doesn't work in English so I'll say it in Portuguese: LAVE SUA BOCA PRA FALAR DE SUCKER PUNCH!!!!!!!!
Yeah, that's not feminism.
legally blonde and this movie are on two ends of the same spectrum
I'm glad I'm not the only one obsessed with this movie years later
_Such_ an underrated movie. Of course, it wasn't perfect (mostly a victim of some unfortunate editing choices that muddled the story a bit), but the stylistic experimentation was incredible, the music was _perfect,_ and the extended cut ending _significantly_ elevates the narrative of the film.
This movie was dominating mentally ill hot girlboss discourse while Gen Z Sanrio girls were getting their first piercing at Claires, truly a cultural benchmark🤭🎀💕
This comment deserves an award LMAOOO
we get it, you’re oldddd (●￣(工)￣●)
Why is this comment so specifically correct?
Period
when you were both 😅
Sucker Punch, Cabin in the Woods, Coraline and Silent Hill will always be Iconic to me
Thank youuu for giving this movie the flowers it deserves. My dad and I have loved it ever since we first saw it in theaters. Every time he wants to watch it, he'll say "you know son, I feel like being Sucker Punched."
A special movie for me for sure ❤
a worthy addition to the MMCU‼
This was the ONE movie I sneaked out to watch past my bedtime. I finished watching it at like 3 am and that movie changed me
YES FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT. Ive been obsessed with this film ever since i was 13 and edgy, I genuely dont understand why it wasnt a huge hit
this was me! I felt like I was the only one who liked it at the time lmao
It was ahead of its time.
The way I pretended to hate this movie because I thought I was supposed to, but eventually watched a lot of vid essays on it and read a lot, realized I did like it. Its truly so movie. Icons showed up to work and they did, and they movied in a movie. So slay. Very mother. The plot has been overexplained and overanalyzed by my inner teen, inner preteen, etc. And yes. Movie.
I saw this film with a friend and a four pack of Sofia Coppola canned rose (with matching pink straws), and we crushed them and it was my favorite film of 2011 by a MILE. By a MARATHON. By 26.2 thigh chafing, nipple bleeding, nearly entirely CGI action sequences. I adored what it did from the start, and I will be INSUFFERABLE about it for the rest of my life.
No, because genuinely "it's so movie" is such a perfect description. Not "it's so movie" (derogatory) but "it's so movie" (affectionate), and I will DEFEND my so movie. The girls who get it, get it (we're insane, babes, good for us tho)
I think the third theory ties it all together the best. Babydoll is Sweet Pea, or at least a projection of her. She feels responsible for the death of her sister, she feels she’s lost power of her situation and just wants to escape. That’s why Dr. john hamm says that after Babydoll is lobotomized, because it’s actually Sweet Pea who was lobotomized and she feels relief in that she has successfully escaped the reality in which all these terrible things have happened. The old man and the kid on the bus, never really there, hence why they’re in multiple layers of reality.
I still don’t entirely get what the old man represents. I know he’s like another guardian angel, but while Sweet Pea and Babydoll are clearly connected, I ain’t sure where the old man comes in. Is he someone who works at the asylum? The doctor?
I have a history with this film! I watched it with a bunch of guys who were into anime and the fight scenes just werent my bag despite how beautiful and sensational they are. I then fell down a rabbit hole about lobotomies (PSA- don't) and was like im informed but still missing some crumbs of context so i watched the extended cut and it made more sense and then i loved it! And now you've just certified it as a club classic mr mxcxm
Sucker Punch is like the American live-action version of Kill La Kill
Yes ! The UA-camr Princess Weekes also makes the same connection!!