Are double TKO's possible in Super Punch Out?
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2022
- I've known about this topic for many years, but have been too lazy to put a video together about it. Due to a couple of people asking me about it lately, and because I'm currently messing with TASing stuff in 2 player mode, I've decided to put this video together, since I've found that this mode makes demonstrating this topic way, way more convenient then ever before.
If you're not familiar with what the 2 player mode is Super Punch Out is, then this video does a good job showing when the cheats codes were discovered, and several entertaining fights with several people: • NEW SUPER PUNCH OUT 2P...
This is also kind of a question to everyone watching, but do people enjoy these kinds of videos and want to see more of them from me? If you have any opinions on those questions, let me know in the comments! - Ігри
![(TAS) Super Punch Out!! - 2 Player Mode [1P Wins All Fights] (1:09.29 In-Game Time)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/GSb-hLWcMyM/mqdefault.jpg)
Double KO cant happen since half the comments are that; the opponent just gets up on 9 and claims victory even if KO conditions were met.
I should've considered people would ask about this lol, so I'll pin this.
But yes, for everyone wondering what would happen with an attempted double KO, Jack is correct.
@@zallard1 Ah, I was wondering if it was possible to KO an opponent on a double knockdown, with you still getting up. I guess not then. Would've been cool if possible, but I guess the programmers didn't want the kinda situation to occur.
It would be cool if a new PO game had double knockdowns again, maybe double KO's or TKOs that count as a Draw on your record.
That would've been strange to see, Gabby of all boxers trolling you by immediately getting up on 9.
@@zallard1 I'm always correct.
What about in the 2 player mode?
This 2-Player mode in Super Punch Out that has just been hiding for all these years is still blowing my mind
Who knows what other secrets these old games have
This is literally the first time I've ever seen Gabby Jay's win animation 😂
Yay he can't have a draw the third time around 🤣
You mean, you didn't lose to him on your first play through? Or lose to him out of curiousity? And yes, Gabby beat me the first time I played the game
@@DoomRater Nope, even as a kid pressing random buttons my first time playing I beat him. I lost to Bear Hugger though!
"yay yay yay yay"
-Gabby YAY
@@DoomRater The very first time I ever played this game I beat Gabby Jay at like 2:20 and i got knocked down twice. The second time I tried after getting destroyed by Bear Hugger I did actually lose to Gabby Jay. Only time that ever happened though. I'm now stuck on Hoy Quarlow.
It's amazing the amount of detail a game from the mid 90s has.
That's why I love the Punch-Out!! series.
I was literally wondering this at work today, and Zallard1 delivers
I remember beating Mr. Sandman in a similar way. We both had low health, and we traded blows. We both showed the damage sprite, but he went down first. Epic.
Looks like his attack dealt less damage to you than the attack he suffered from your move.
Unfortunate that it doesn't work the way I thought it would, but cool for you to show us anyway! Great vid.
Love that you commentated this one!! and of course I would like to have more content like this!
what a neat little detail :) thank you for showing it off!
Once in Mike Tysons punch out, I knocked someone down right as they hit me, and they got knocked down but it still showed a damage sprite for Mac. It was cool.
Interesting. Good to know. This topic was something that had been on my mind from time to time since I've experienced these double punches in Super Punch-Out a few years ago. Thanks for clearing this up.
Another great video zallard1! This was extremely interesting.
...never in my life had I known I had a question burning in my heart that I needed an answer to and then had the answer gift-wrapped to me.
Now I’m curious, what if both fighters fail to get up before the 10 count?
Cant happen. The opponent will just stand up on 9 even if KO conditions were met. TKO gives the player the win though, as seen here
What if you *forced* it to TKO/KO?
@@jackimus8987 interesting. They really thought of everything
@@jackimus8987 Actually if traded knockdowns were to happen when both fighters are TKO eligible, then the game always gives the win to the opponent.
In a perfect world, it would go to a decision. Who got the most hits before the double KO.
More voiced informative videos please!
"Yay." - Gabby Jay
I would like to see a double knock down leading into a KO with you winning. Would be interesting to see. As the double knock down had both you and Gabbu get up at the same time.
that was interesting.
What happens if both characters get knocked down while one character is susceptible to a TKO? Does the game prioritise keeping the winning character upright?
Then the character susceptible to a tko loses
I imagine getting a TKO ends the matches active gamestate, so processing damage that causes a TKO will stop all further processing of damage.
But it does play surprisingly loose with regular KO’s.
Zallard do you recommend (or have) any guides on playing this game for speed? I've been trying to get into super punchout more seriously and I have a lot of questions about the different kinds of punches, buffer strategies and that kind of stuff.
I think "Ring ni Kakero" also need more love. It's don't have proper instruction of how to play, so I find many thing by myself through experiments and some little hacking. Because it has unique interactions I sometime find another cinematic stuff that happens very rare
Make a video showcasing all opponent’s attacks, including the ones that may not be possible on 2p debug mode.
SPO vet and never actually seen a double knockdown until this vid.
I did a double knock down when fighting against Mad Clown years ago.
Well, now we have to break that exception handling, right? Let's see what happens if you force the opponent not to get up when you're both down.
I have a feeling Zallard‘s favorite punch out is super punch out
Every time that I get a double knockout, It's always on accident
The next video you should play Punch out from 2009 but you need to go as long as you can in Mac's last stand I want to see how far you can get cuz I saw you beat the entire game blindfolded
Back in 2009 I did last stand to saw how far I could get, which ended with me getting 100 wins with no losses, then got bored and stopped. I was way worse at punchout games back then, so me doing it today would probably be super boring because it would just literally never end lol.
Yo Zallard, will you ever do a full speedrun of this game again? You have fallen off the top 10 in rankings. And I think that you can do better than 2:40. It seems that you still know a lot about the game.
To be honest, Super Punch Out would remain as my favorite in the series, as controversial it can be.
That's also my favorite out of all the Punch Out in the series. There are things I like better in this series than in the other Punch Out series. I think Mike Tyson's Punch Out sold better, just because of Mike Tyson in the game, but I do not like that there are opponents that do another boxing match, even when they got beat before. Someone called it a game that repeats itself, and said that Super Punch Out should have sold better, because it does not repeat itself. Super Punch Out is always different opponents, and there's a total of 16 matches.
@@bennel3588 I wouod be fine if it was like Punch Out Wii where you have to defend your title, but yeah, in the OG it doesnt make any sense.
@@sebastianaliandkulche I think you saw how the original was like. The two-player mode in the Wii was not like how it was in the SNES game. I think the problem in the Wii game was how uneven it would be in 2-player mode if the second player played as Glass Joe or Soda Popinski. Glass Joe is out with one hit from Little Mac's three star punch and Soda Popinski drinks soda pop, not only to recover his energy, but to recover from any knock outs he has. He even uses it to help him get back up. Someone did tell me that Super Punch Out is getting a remake on Switch. I hope it's true, and that it has the thing of defending the title like the Wii game has. I hope it keeps the two-player mode like the SNES game has. Maybe, some opponents will be added in like Pizza Pasta, Kid Quick, Mr. Dream, and the return of Donkey Kong.
Hey zallard, of the currently 11 KO-able fighters in SNES Super Punch-Out!!, who is the most difficult to K.O. in your opinion?
What happens if there is a double knockdown, but one of the characters (Mac or opponent) wins by TKO?
For instance, if Bald Bull wins by TKO, but with a double knockdown, does he get up and taunt you?
What if they’ve been knocked down twice, and you haven't? Will the same frame rule apply, or will you win by TKO if you get up?
I have actually had 2 knockdown happen one time but it was not a tko
how has this multiplayer mode impacted your practicing speed runs?
Nice that the devs designed this safety measure even in the hidden 2 player mode.
This can happen in normal play as well. The 2 player mode just makes it a lot easier to demonstrate, since the second player can be timed to do traded hits.
I could've sworn a few years ago I was playing this, maybe on am emulator I don't remember if it was SNES9EX or the SNES mini, but I remember trading hits with someone and the game ended up freezing and I had to reset.
What about a double KO if it counts to 10
no
Wait, in 2 player mode, is it possible for both boxers to stay down for the 10 count at the same time during knockdown 1 or 2?
I’m curious now
2nd player doesn't get to decide their stay down count, IIRC
No. Player 2 doesn't have to mash, and if both players are in a knockdown, even if they normally wouldn't recover, they'll recover at 9 as to give a failure condition. In other words, they didn't program this so it would softlock, and the CPU will get up to prevent the softlock and you will lose.
when is zallaed2 coming out?
Do you know if super punches can be traded? Say if Mac has his meter charged and hits gabby with a super blow and gabby lands his punch "come on" punch will you both go down?
They can be traded, and actually some of my older runs where I messed up Bald Bull have that very thing happen to them lol
I have tried this exact same situation years ago, and yes, the end result was the same there, too.
I still remember from that attempt that the final traded hits actually contain the sound effect that indicates that your opponent should hit the mat (the more quieter, echoed body blow hit sound at 1:26), but the game itself still prevents the scenario from ending up becoming a DTKO.
*WVBA: *sees DTKO's as an infraction, and is very strict about keeping it locked**
*Also WVBA:* "Mad Clown has THAT many infractions? We don't see any! Are you high, sir?"
It’s impossible. I’v experienced something similar with Nick Bruiser. We cross countered and both downed each other
I do wanna know in 2-Player what’d happen if you both trade blows to knock each other down and just let the timer count to 10
What’d happen there? Would the game force one player up or…?
Player Two's character gets up automatically regardless. They don't have to mash like Mac does in the first place.
@@PoisonedPocky oh. That’s dumb
Will this effect speedrunning!???????????????????????!??????????
Will this affect lebrons legacy???
@@mrmega6188 LeBron will never be the same after this
Ok, but what if neither of you got up after being knocked down?
btw, in Punch out Wii, can TD Aran Ryan knock you down as he is falling if you are low enough?
Nope, TD Aran's desperation attack is programmed to take off 33% of your current health, even if you have 1HP like in Champion's Mode.
@@zallard1 And in Super Punch Out, is there any chance that both boxers get knocked down and neither of them get up?
@@eliasdex1236 Nope, check the pinned comment here for what happens in the scenario of attempting a double KO
@@zallard1 Oh, sorry. It wasn't there the first time I watched the video. I should have double checked by now.
@@eliasdex1236 No worries, haha. It seems like a bunch of people had the same question.
Hey Zallard1 I decided I was gonna start speed running Mike Tyson’s punch out and I was wondering if you could give me some tips on discord
You should join the Mike Tyson's Punch Out speedrunning discord server, which has a ton of people always willing to help each other get better at the game: discord.gg/6nD9nhcE
Thank you!
what about double KO?
I remember you first showed the double knockdown many years ago in your SPO playthrough when you did against Narcis Prince.
Also not possible. The opponent gets up on 9 and wins anyways even if he would otherwise be KO'd.
Anybody know of a move list for the boxers in 2p mode?
They're on the punchout wiki
@@chronotunes3663 thank you.
double kos can happen in punch out wii, it even can happen in the same round, u have to e really lucky
I've found no specific set of conditions in the game that allows a traded hit in Wii Punch Out to allow double knockdowns, let alone double knockouts.
Unfortunately, there just simply does not exist a frame window that allows it. The closest you can get is a double hit, which is actually done in the Aran Ryan contender world record with champion's mode active. That will get you knocked down, but Aran Ryan will still be standing (if both were to knockdown, the double hit window is gone).
@@zallard1 i meant you can have the get knocked out for the third time and survive falling cutscene play twice iin 1 round
gay
Hey, Zallard...is it possible to get a knockdown on Hugger or Clown with the body blow? I mean, if the health is low enough or whatever...I've never seen it.
The gut punch to Clown/Bear's taunt actually deals 0 damage, so unfortunately it's not possible.