Frederic Wertham, Comics’ Bogeyman || Docuseries-24 by Alex Grand

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  • Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
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    This video discusses the achievements of Frederic Wertham, and how they should be taken into account when judging the man who wrote the 1954 book, Seduction of the Innocent. All too often, people have a reduced impression of him based on this phase in his life trying to link comics to juvenile delinquency, which contributed to the formation of the comics code authority. However, before and after this time in his life, he lived a full and interesting life contributing to society, academia, and comic book fandom in ways that should be more fully understood, before pre-judging the man.
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    #CBHDocuseries-24: Was Frederic Wertham really Comics’ Bogeyman? 🤔
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    00:00 Frederic Wertham
    00:14 Seduction of the Innocent-Juvenile Delinquency
    01:05 Kefauver Hearings-Comics Code Authority
    01:41 Mad magazine bypassing the CCA | Bill Gaines
    02:14 Comics Code Authority
    03:14 Frederic Wertham wasn’t A Bad Guy
    04:03 National Research Council Fellowship
    04:16 "The Brain As An Organ" book
    05:17 Psychiatric exam on Albert Fish
    05:55 Lowenfeld Mosaic test
    06:20 Brown vs Board Of Education
    06:49 "The World of Fanzines"
    09:10 So was he Comics' Bogeyman
    10:17 Conclusion
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 34

  • @alpoe4467
    @alpoe4467 Рік тому +3

    Thank you for the unbiased panoramic vignette, including his accomplishments, too.

  • @sheltonnaron3648
    @sheltonnaron3648 6 років тому +6

    As a 62 yr old fan that bought my first comic in 1963 I know a lot of this history. My grandma started my reading ability at 4 yrs old. Guys I LOVE your videos!!!!!!!!!!

  • @edfarajian4664
    @edfarajian4664 6 років тому +12

    Awesome video, nice to see that there are two sides to every story. Fans demonize some historical figures way too easily. Great to get a background.

  • @dorimeameno5514
    @dorimeameno5514 2 роки тому +6

    The real life J.J Jameson, a legend

  • @paulocosta4744
    @paulocosta4744 6 років тому +5

    The Kefauver hearings... oh yeah... that one again. In spite of all the media hubhub about Bill Gaines' testimony, the comic book hearings were not particularly interested in the content of comic stories. I've read the testimony of Magazine Management (Marvel/Atlas) managing director (today he would be VP of Management) Monroe Froehlich Jr, and the majority of the questions were about distribution. Their concern was with uncovering any association between newsstand distributors and organized crime.

  • @BobbyMoore2-mp8wb
    @BobbyMoore2-mp8wb 6 місяців тому +1

    I love reading Comics

  • @codex3048
    @codex3048 6 років тому +6

    "Puritanical"? Not really. The main gist of Wertham was the common psychological prognosis that prolonged exposure to violence, either real or in pictoral form, is harmful for a child's psyche, and may desensitize them to violence. That isn't a controversial or puritanical position. True, he went overboard when he proposed direct links between exposure to crime comics and juvenile delinquency. People today tend to forget (or not know) that all comics in those times were bought by 8, 9, 10 year old children, in addition to many older ones. Even today most parents try to shield 8, 9, and 10 year old children from exceptionally gory or violent movies.

    • @cha5
      @cha5 6 років тому +2

      Andrew B All comics in those times were bought by children? Yes, but a large number of them were also bought by adults ranging from college students to returning war veterans, especially the EC audience and the buyers of Lev Gleason's Crime Does Not Pay and Will Eisner's The Spirit among other titles, one thing to also remember is that newsstand retailers would often sell Walt Disney's Comics and Stories right alongside Tales from the Crypt at this era.

  • @Principles_of_Psychology
    @Principles_of_Psychology 6 років тому +3

    Great job, this vid is extremely well-researched and balanced about perhaps the greatest bogey man in comic book history!

    • @janorhypercleats
      @janorhypercleats 3 роки тому +1

      The only villain that superheros couldn't defeat--Dr Wertham!

  • @phayzyre1052
    @phayzyre1052 3 роки тому +9

    I think about the best damn thing that ever happened to Frederic Wertham was when he died. 👍👍
    I looked at horror comics growing up as a young boy and hell, even one of my buddies found his dad’s Playboy stash and we all got our eyes full looking at them but none of us grew up to become perverts, commit crimes or anything like that. If anybody claims that a rinky-dink comic book, movie, picture, etc. caused them to do something wrong then they were screwed up in the head from the get go!

  • @andynystrom1519
    @andynystrom1519 3 роки тому +5

    Before it came out a few years ago that he falsified his data for Seduction of the Innocent, I might have seen him as just a bit misguided. The problem is, if he falsified the data here, it's probable that he falsified his data elsewhere as well. Really, anything he's worked on, even if it's had a positive benefit to society needs to be retested to determine if his findings still hold up.

  • @iceomistar4302
    @iceomistar4302 3 роки тому +4

    Again like today with movies and videogames, it's not the medium that's the problem but parenting and the genres of entertainment that children may consume.

  • @willday9316
    @willday9316 4 роки тому +3

    Horror comics were already dropping in sales by the mid fifties anyway.

  • @shanebartell4238
    @shanebartell4238 4 роки тому +3

    If you look at how bland boring and lame most TV shows and movies were in the 1950s and then look at how violent some of the EC comics were, the guy kind of had a point. I think his conclusions were wrong, but he DID kind of have a point

    • @cosmeticscameo8277
      @cosmeticscameo8277 4 роки тому +2

      frederic wertham abhorred violence. he really did think that as a species we could become a enlightened scholarly types. I mean it's a nice ideal but we're far from that.

    • @cosmeticscameo8277
      @cosmeticscameo8277 4 роки тому

      @Yorky Gonzalez true, it's the food, chemicals, air, pollution, propaganda etc. just too many things all at one time.

    • @janorhypercleats
      @janorhypercleats 3 роки тому +1

      I don't know that he did! I think EC comics and other horror comics had some really cool stories! It's never been proven that violent comic books cause violence! "Most juvenile delinquents read comic books!" "Most juvenile delinquents also drink milk, should we make milk illegal?" Wertham used a lot of false information and shock value stuff to scare the public, and countless comic book companies went out of business and thousands of people lost their jobs!

  • @WhatAboutThemApples
    @WhatAboutThemApples 3 роки тому +2

    I never get the hate for this guy from Super Hero fans. Simple fact his trying to censor Horror and Crime comics had the unintended consequences to those companies needing to find a different things to print and bring back the Hero comics book(yes I know many 50s super hero comics are the worst but the rise of the Super hero lead to the comic book revival of the 60s)

  • @plasticweapon
    @plasticweapon 2 роки тому

    he was a bad guy.

  • @d-brothers3112
    @d-brothers3112 3 роки тому +3

    He was homophobic

    • @edfurnez6134
      @edfurnez6134 3 роки тому +2

      He was anti-pedophilia. Stop equating the two, you’re being rude.

    • @d-brothers3112
      @d-brothers3112 3 роки тому +4

      @@edfurnez6134 His entire book is about how comics are corrupting children, so when he calls Wonder Woman “unapologetically Sapphic” and talks about Bruce walking around his manor in a dressing gown and decorating it with flowers, he is painting that as just as negative as the violence. He directly says Batman and Robin “is like a wish-dream of two homosexuals living together.” Plus, it’s not unlikely for a 60-year-old to have old fashioned opinions in the 1950s, like the commonly held belief that gay men are pedophiles. So when he cites these things among everything else when his main argument is “comics are worse than Hitler” (not an exaggeration since he said that in a senate hearing), he’s being homophobic.

    • @edfurnez6134
      @edfurnez6134 3 роки тому +3

      @@d-brothers3112 uhm, Robin was 12. Did you not get that memo?

    • @d-brothers3112
      @d-brothers3112 3 роки тому

      @@edfurnez6134 Well luckily, Batman and Robin were not in a gay relationship

    • @edfurnez6134
      @edfurnez6134 3 роки тому +3

      There you go equating the two again. Awful