Great review. You touched on all the things I’m curious about. Right now I’m struggling with a decision: Urban G/S or R Ninet Classic. I owned an R80 G/S with Paris Dakar kit with modified internals on the front fork and anOhlins rear shock. I owned it from 1981-2001 and it was a very good bike BUT it was NEVER well suited to any “real” off road stuff except fire roads. People’s ideas of the R 80 G/S being a “real” capable off-road bike are dreams. The only people who believe that are people who never really owned one. BUT it WAS a great bike and because of that I’m leaning toward the Urban G/S. I have an R1200RT for distance so a little runabout bike would be welcome in my garage! Thanks again for the great review.
The R80GS has almost three inches more suspension travel in the front and almost two inches more in the rear than the Urban G/S. So the R80GS at least in suspension seems more ready to deal with off-road
Great review! I'm thinking about getting one next year and using it for the exact same purposes you mentioned. This review definitely spread some more light to my thoughts.
Great review, and a great bike, all the Rnine’s are gorgeous especially the racer. Love your vids Albe. Fitted the usb and switch to my 800GS, only managed it from watching your video. 👍🏍
Hey Albe. It's interesting bike. I am skeptical about owning a air/oil cooled bike in the desert here. I heard if it gets hot the power drops quite a bit. Also can side panniers be added? I don't think it's for me because not really off road capable. Holy tar snakes that road looks scary. For my F800 I am interested in upgrading the front forks with different springs or cartridges. Also have you run across a way to have rear antilock off but still have antilock on the front? Anyway keep up the good video's. I just changed my front sprocket and wow I like it a lot as I don't have to slip the clutch as often.
In really hot weather the power does drop a bit, I’m not sure if that’s a safeguard set by BMW itself, yes panniers can be added. I want to upgrade the front fork too, I’m still figuring out if with just spring or cartridges or a full set of ohlins. Unless somebody figures out how to reprogram the abs I don’t think there is any work around that. Yeah I like my bike a lot more with the smaller front sprocket too 👍🏼
Great review and I agree that I too found this a really comfortable and stable bike to ride. Unfortunately it seems that the option to add the BMW accessory tachometer to this model is not available possibly due to the limited space behind the headlight cowl so your review is wrong in this respect. Otherwise a great bike though.
You're correct that the tacho isn't offered as an option but it does fit. My dealer is fitting one for me. There's a video on UA-cam of a UGS with twin clocks and they look ok. Expensive though!
Great review. I always like to know what sort of bike it might compare to, or that you'd think was better? I also need to know what it is like for a passenger, as my wife loves being a pillion passenger. Maybe a history of your bike ownership, experience? I'm 43 years riding and owned 78 bikes in that time🙈I'm looking at this bike as number 79. Ride Safe. Neil, in England, UK.
The bike compares to most scramblers and modern classic. In my opinion it's the most comfortable of the r9t for rider and pax, the engine is a gem. All in all I liked it very much but I always recommend a test ride 👍
Though choice, they are both good in different ways but I think I would go for the racer, I love the way it looks, and I really enjoyed riding it through the twisties.
@@AlbesADV Rode the racer but it was too uncomfortable with the tank into the crotch but when i rode the Urban GS I knew it was right. Exactly what you said. It was your video that had me take another look. ua-cam.com/video/RpSCHC2IUHg/v-deo.html
Depends, if you are pretty tall and heavy and you have ridden any kind of bike (mini bike, dirt bike, Vespa or scooter), you might be able to get by with this as a first bike, if you are starting from absolute zero you might want to start with something a little lighter.
it was my first bike and after 28.000km, i'm still alive ;) really depends on how responsible and sensible you are and how much you have actually ridden in traffic. if you're new to traffic in general, it will probably be too much, because you won't be able to focus on improving your riding skills as much, because you have to deal that whole traffic environment first. now i see that your post was 10 months ago. i hope you're well ;)
I’m doing well, taking a break for January to be back stronger in February. The bike might indeed be a handful in traffic but nevertheless a great bike. Thanks for checking in 😀👍
I would go for something lighter as a first bike. The R9t it’s a good bike, but if you have 0 experience with bikes, I believe you would benefit and improve much faster from something a little nimbler.
I have owned both the Ducat Desert sled and the R9T here's my opinion the Ducati looks better but is under powered, but I would still choose the Beemer, the Ducati kills you for comfort after about 40 mins its horrible for any distance, and the Beemer pulls like a schoolboy compared to the Ducati which is flat has a witches tit unless you are ringing it's neck.
The old bike was still heavy at about 400 lbs. with the Paris Dakar kit and a full tank 455 lbs. I loved it but the R100G/S and R1100GS were actually better on Fire roads than the little R80 because their power gave you great rear wheel steering and front-end lightening.
test rode it twice ... Didn't want to give it back ... So I bought one ... Absolutely love it. Ticks all my boxes .
Great choice
That is a very sensible argument 👍
I’ve had this bike for a year now,,love it! The only complaint is that it is a little high for me because I’m only 5’7
Great review. You touched on all the things I’m curious about. Right now I’m struggling with a decision: Urban G/S or R Ninet Classic. I owned an R80 G/S with Paris Dakar kit with modified internals on the front fork and anOhlins rear shock. I owned it from 1981-2001 and it was a very good bike BUT it was NEVER well suited to any “real” off road stuff except fire roads. People’s ideas of the R 80 G/S being a “real” capable off-road bike are dreams. The only people who believe that are people who never really owned one. BUT it WAS a great bike and because of that I’m leaning toward the Urban G/S. I have an R1200RT for distance so a little runabout bike would be welcome in my garage! Thanks again for the great review.
Thank you for watching and I'm glad to help
The R80GS has almost three inches more suspension travel in the front and almost two inches more in the rear than the Urban G/S. So the R80GS at least in suspension seems more ready to deal with off-road
I swear this thing is being sold in my region with knobby tires which is really cool to look at.
BMW gives you the option at no cost, you can choose Street or knobby and they will fit them for you.
It's a street bike. Even on dirt roads it's suspension sucks. Niche bike
It’s not an off road bike of course but a lot better than trying to ride the gigantic and top heavy BMW off road.
I agree, easier to manage
Great review Albe, your reviews keep getting better every time, keep it up!
Great review! I'm thinking about getting one next year and using it for the exact same purposes you mentioned. This review definitely spread some more light to my thoughts.
I’m glad Liferider 👍
Really enjoyed the review, thanks.
Not a BMW fan but the Urban is one I do like, not too big, basic and fun.
Very fun.
Love that the newer ones added cruise control... Only thing missing is a gear indicator -- Great review
Thanks man, I agree
you can add rev clock and you get gear indicator
Great video--just rode my first BMW this weekend in SLC, but i didn't ride onbe of these. Wow, what a fun looking bike. Thank you! Liked and subbed!
Thanks JP, that is a fun bike 👍
Great review, and a great bike, all the Rnine’s are gorgeous especially the racer. Love your vids Albe. Fitted the usb and switch to my 800GS, only managed it from watching your video. 👍🏍
Thanks, I'm glad the videos help.
Really liked the review! That was great!
Thank you
Nice job !
Hey Albe. It's interesting bike. I am skeptical about owning a air/oil cooled bike in the desert here. I heard if it gets hot the power drops quite a bit. Also can side panniers be added? I don't think it's for me because not really off road capable. Holy tar snakes that road looks scary. For my F800 I am interested in upgrading the front forks with different springs or cartridges. Also have you run across a way to have rear antilock off but still have antilock on the front? Anyway keep up the good video's. I just changed my front sprocket and wow I like it a lot as I don't have to slip the clutch as often.
In really hot weather the power does drop a bit, I’m not sure if that’s a safeguard set by BMW itself, yes panniers can be added. I want to upgrade the front fork too, I’m still figuring out if with just spring or cartridges or a full set of ohlins. Unless somebody figures out how to reprogram the abs I don’t think there is any work around that. Yeah I like my bike a lot more with the smaller front sprocket too 👍🏼
great review
Thank you Stanley 👍
Sold my F800GS :( This bike might be my next one.
Great review and I agree that I too found this a really comfortable and stable bike to ride. Unfortunately it seems that the option to add the BMW accessory tachometer to this model is not available possibly due to the limited space behind the headlight cowl so your review is wrong in this respect. Otherwise a great bike though.
You're correct that the tacho isn't offered as an option but it does fit. My dealer is fitting one for me. There's a video on UA-cam of a UGS with twin clocks and they look ok. Expensive though!
Thanks for the info 😀👍
Great review. I always like to know what sort of bike it might compare to, or that you'd think was better? I also need to know what it is like for a passenger, as my wife loves being a pillion passenger. Maybe a history of your bike ownership, experience? I'm 43 years riding and owned 78 bikes in that time🙈I'm looking at this bike as number 79. Ride Safe.
Neil, in England, UK.
The bike compares to most scramblers and modern classic. In my opinion it's the most comfortable of the r9t for rider and pax, the engine is a gem.
All in all I liked it very much but I always recommend a test ride 👍
I don’t know 🤷🏼♂️ but I love the bike 🏍
Like your reviews. They are good, clean and fun. So if you were to have one bike.. which BMW would you chose R Nine T GS or BMW R nine T Racer?
Though choice, they are both good in different ways but I think I would go for the racer, I love the way it looks, and I really enjoyed riding it through the twisties.
Thanks - I am leaning that way too. I will have to bite the cost for the pillion to make it as useable as my BMW R100CS.
Yup, but it looks sooo cool.
@@AlbesADV Rode the racer but it was too uncomfortable with the tank into the crotch but when i rode the Urban GS I knew it was right. Exactly what you said. It was your video that had me take another look. ua-cam.com/video/RpSCHC2IUHg/v-deo.html
I'm happy to help 👍
Great review!
I'm fairly sure all the boxer engines have a shaft drive. It's all round the wrong way to ever have a chain
Magnífico rewew
well done review - thanks
Kerennñn review nya..topp
Will this be a good first bike? Or is it too much for a first timer?
Depends, if you are pretty tall and heavy and you have ridden any kind of bike (mini bike, dirt bike, Vespa or scooter), you might be able to get by with this as a first bike, if you are starting from absolute zero you might want to start with something a little lighter.
it was my first bike and after 28.000km, i'm still alive ;) really depends on how responsible and sensible you are and how much you have actually ridden in traffic. if you're new to traffic in general, it will probably be too much, because you won't be able to focus on improving your riding skills as much, because you have to deal that whole traffic environment first. now i see that your post was 10 months ago. i hope you're well ;)
I’m doing well, taking a break for January to be back stronger in February. The bike might indeed be a handful in traffic but nevertheless a great bike. Thanks for checking in 😀👍
Is it a good bike for a new biker? I want to buy my first bike but I don't know how to ride motorcycles yet :)
I would go for something lighter as a first bike. The R9t it’s a good bike, but if you have 0 experience with bikes, I believe you would benefit and improve much faster from something a little nimbler.
@@AlbesADV thanks, any bike that you could recommend me?
iasoto tell me about you, hight, weight and what kind of riding you think you will like
@@AlbesADV 1.82m, 85kg (5.97ft, 185 pounds) I would use it in city or short trips.
@@iasoto do you have any favorite brands?
2016 Ducati scrambler brake caliper removal I need help if anyone can help I appreciate it.
Removal, bleeding or just replacing the pads?
I have owned both the Ducat Desert sled and the R9T here's my opinion the Ducati looks better but is under powered, but I would still choose the Beemer, the Ducati kills you for comfort after about 40 mins its horrible for any distance, and the Beemer pulls like a schoolboy compared to the Ducati which is flat has a witches tit unless you are ringing it's neck.
Lol, I agree
Ducati scrambler (800) has terrible maintenance intervals which are also $$$
The old bike 40 years ago was much lighter and even had a better seat at 221kg it's not to heavy
In my opinion the old one and the new one look alike but that’s it, they are very different bikes.
The old bike was still heavy at about 400 lbs. with the Paris Dakar kit and a full tank 455 lbs. I loved it but the R100G/S and R1100GS were actually better on Fire roads than the little R80 because their power gave you great rear wheel steering and front-end lightening.
@@jimc793 was still a lot lighter than most bikes on the market today.
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