@@shinsenshogun900, yeah, that could be like the intro to the movie, and then the rest could be like Alvarez's dissent into madness and then his reign of terror, and then the movie could end with him getting killed and the US gunboat showing up to get the survivors outta Dodge.
I have a world map in my room that I sometimes stare at while brushing my teeth. I remember seeing this island near Mexico and thinking, "huh, this is part of France?" This video has taught me the history that I wanted to know!
lmao, imagine being someone who can say they singlehandedly wiped out an invasive species. Probably just goes to show how comically small this island is in the grand scheme of things.
Years ago I spotted Clipperton Island on a map and ended up reading everything was that was available on it at that time. Including the tragic Mexican army occupation. One of my regrets is I never got a chance to visit it in person. I don’t know what the spell is , I suppose it’s just spotting a remote French island off the coast of Mexico.
According to wikipedia, Clipperton isn't part of French Polynesia, but 'an overseas state private property of France, under direct authority of the Minister of the Overseas'.
I don't think Arnaud deserves to be a villain. The dude is more of a tragic character than anything else. A man dedicated to doing his duty so much, he inadvertently condemned a bunch of people to almost starve on a godforesaken rock in the middle of nowhere. Alvarez though, he shoul definitely be the villain. And I totally agree, Robert Eggers would make a great director for that movie.
As someone who loves writing time travel and historical fiction, Arnaud and Alvarez are definitely going on the idea list. That's such an interesting story!
@Safwaan I mean it totally could be inhabited. It has food, water, etc. A small lighthouse crew could have easily survived there and made trips to the Mexican shoreline if necessary
I have an unrelated question that I kinda know the answer to but I don't. Why does Europe look so weird? If you look on a map most continents look kinda similar. They start large before becoming thin and triangular. Kinda like an upsidedown water drop. But Europe doesn't. My friend and I joked that God first drew Europe super detailed and then copy-paste the rest. But why is it that Europe looks so weird? I know it's plates-tectonics and the European flat land but it still feels weird compared to the rest of the world
If you see Asia and Europe as Eurasia, then the whole also tapers off - Europe being the skinny part. The only continents that don’t taper like that are Australia and Antarctica. North America tapers in both directions like a diamond.
Kinda surprised that this island isn't Mexican territory still as it's quite close to the shoreline. Also kinda confusing that people starved on an island full of eggs/birds, surrounded by reefs filled with fish, a fresh water lagoon, and coconuts
Being close to the shoreline ain't necessarily reason enough to belong to another nation. Like, the Falklands for instance. It's a little goofy, having an island in the middle of nowehre is like if Mexico had the Isle of Mann.
@@cwovictor3281 The island is much closer to the Mexican mainland than Tahiti (like thousands of kilometers less) and was actually settled for a while by Mexicans. Also this was during the height of colonialism/Imperialism. Weird France never decolonized an area they stole from Mexico like they did with other nations. Also there's the fact that they tried to do nuclear testing and other environmentally damaging actions up until the 80s that could had been disastrous for the Mexican locals on the coastline who depend on the waters for fishing and transportation
@@ABCD-sl2pn at that time ownership of land depended far more on "effective settlement and development" than "a guy flying our colors saw it 200 years ago". Mexico did more to keep and populate the island than France, simple as. The same logic applied to the claims of Portugal and Spain in Africa - it wasn't enough to have been the first to sail and explore the area, you needed to set up an actual colony to keep it!
@@RexAresius Ownership is not reliant on "effective settlement and development", thats just what your personal opinion on what ownership is. The french dejure owned the territory, all the maps and cartographers at the time would agree with this, then the mexicans came in with gunboats, forcibly took the land and then settled it with mexicans. And besides, no one lived on the island when they got it back so all that settlement means nothing towards a claim. "Uh its ours because we had a dozen people on that island, who have long since abandoned it" is a ridiculous way to claim land.
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Is it just me, or does anyone else feel like the story of Clipperton during WW1 would make a great horror movie?
@@occam7382 Disputed colony with scarcer provisions go wrong with the death of the colonial governor
@@shinsenshogun900, yeah, that could be like the intro to the movie, and then the rest could be like Alvarez's dissent into madness and then his reign of terror, and then the movie could end with him getting killed and the US gunboat showing up to get the survivors outta Dodge.
Wait, you are 26? Wow
I have a world map in my room that I sometimes stare at while brushing my teeth. I remember seeing this island near Mexico and thinking, "huh, this is part of France?" This video has taught me the history that I wanted to know!
lmao, imagine being someone who can say they singlehandedly wiped out an invasive species. Probably just goes to show how comically small this island is in the grand scheme of things.
2.6 mi^2 or 6km^2
I just Imagine him running around the island with a shotgun and just looking for pigs
@@pcu9284 lmao
This behaviour is what earned Jiub a sainthood! (St Jiub of the elder scrolls game genocided a species, tho not an invasive one; just a dickish one)
*Kenneth loads shotgun*
*Doom music starts playing*
"We can't expect God to do all the work."
Staring at a map and going "I wonder what happened there?" is basically the Emperor Tigerstar version of an RPG sidequest
Years ago I spotted Clipperton Island on a map and ended up reading everything was that was available on it at that time. Including the tragic Mexican army occupation. One of my regrets is I never got a chance to visit it in person. I don’t know what the spell is , I suppose it’s just spotting a remote French island off the coast of Mexico.
French Southern lands (Kerguelen, Amsterdam etc) are another interesting one.
What do you mean by Amsterdam? Like, Amsterdam in Holland? I don't get it :/
@@Ramzi1944 There's a little island called Amsterdam Island in the outer reaches of the Indian/Southern Ocean that belongs to France
@@sdrawkcabUK Why Would They Name A French Island After A City In Holland? Idiut?
@@sdrawkcabUK, yeah, it's weird. The French care even less about that rock than the rock they have next to Mexico.
The French island of Tromelin also has an interesting story
According to wikipedia, Clipperton isn't part of French Polynesia, but 'an overseas state private property of France, under direct authority of the Minister of the Overseas'.
That’s true now but not of the historical time periods mentioned in the video.
DAMN the dude actually single-handedly eliminated an invasive species from the island, we need more people dedicated like this nowadays
Dude deserves a medal, or even sainthood like Jiub got for genocidin cliff racers on Vvardenfell
When friends ask me why I like history so much, this video will be my answer.
Reality is far better than fiction
Wow, Arnaud and Alvarez really need to be the villains of a movie. Preferably directed by Robert Eggers
Arnaud was more just insanely dedicated to his job
I don't think Arnaud deserves to be a villain. The dude is more of a tragic character than anything else. A man dedicated to doing his duty so much, he inadvertently condemned a bunch of people to almost starve on a godforesaken rock in the middle of nowhere. Alvarez though, he shoul definitely be the villain. And I totally agree, Robert Eggers would make a great director for that movie.
As someone who loves writing time travel and historical fiction, Arnaud and Alvarez are definitely going on the idea list. That's such an interesting story!
Can I read ur books
this should be put out more, what a neat side of mostly forgotten history
The pigs also killed many crabs, allowing more plants to grow; the island might’ve actually solidified if it weren’t for Stager
oh god not the kingdom of clipperton
Lol
Please do more stories about small. Islands, I love it!
Todo lo que pasó en esa isla fue muy surreal
en efecto, lo de la colonia me parece una novela de Stephen King
Who forgot to mention that at one point French where left there to rot for more than 15 years and finally after that got rescued
I think we've all wondered about Clipperton at some point.
Are we positive this wasn't a Dwarf Fortress session?
This was an amzing video, quite interesting!
Oh no, this cursed island again...
Thank you.
Bravo!
I kinda feel bad that the town there didn’t survive
@Safwaan I mean it totally could be inhabited. It has food, water, etc. A small lighthouse crew could have easily survived there and made trips to the Mexican shoreline if necessary
very pleasant video
So im guessing even now nobody lives there
yeah
Kinda sad
Roca Partida nearby also has a good history behind
imagine beng a colony must suck huh
Interesting
That dude prolly just turned up at the island and was like "'MURICA F-ck yeah" as he slaughtered all the pigs
I would visit that land just to plant fruits and create a path like for people to walk on around the island
Now do Kerguelen
Heh heh; "Brown Booby," heh heh
Is it murder, if in self defense?
No. Legally (US law here), by definition killing in self-defense is legally allowed and not the crime of murder.
cool
Ok I haven’t watched it yet but let me hazard a guess that it has something to do with guano
Edit: correct!
Interesting.
The past tense of ‘slay’ is ‘slew’.
Ok but no other country or territory has a name that's more fun to say
"Murdered him in self defence"? Hmmm 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Damn
Zamn
Pamn
Kamn
Hamn
Bamn
bird guano, not bat guano
I have an unrelated question that I kinda know the answer to but I don't. Why does Europe look so weird? If you look on a map most continents look kinda similar. They start large before becoming thin and triangular. Kinda like an upsidedown water drop. But Europe doesn't. My friend and I joked that God first drew Europe super detailed and then copy-paste the rest. But why is it that Europe looks so weird? I know it's plates-tectonics and the European flat land but it still feels weird compared to the rest of the world
If you see Asia and Europe as Eurasia, then the whole also tapers off - Europe being the skinny part.
The only continents that don’t taper like that are Australia and Antarctica.
North America tapers in both directions like a diamond.
Europe’s just the main character
europe is more of a peninsula of eurasia and not really a continent
Italy look like a boot 👢
I only knew it from the Bill Wurtz video lol
Before 1 hour gang.
Yep
Historical Rivals idea
America and Soviet Union
France and Britain
Ottomans and Austrians
Russians and Ottomans
Are you still working on North America?
Hey cool. I got here after 3 minutes. I’m still cursed.
Them Russians strike again!
Does anyone care about the death of the king?
Kinda surprised that this island isn't Mexican territory still as it's quite close to the shoreline.
Also kinda confusing that people starved on an island full of eggs/birds, surrounded by reefs filled with fish, a fresh water lagoon, and coconuts
Being close to the shoreline ain't necessarily reason enough to belong to another nation. Like, the Falklands for instance. It's a little goofy, having an island in the middle of nowehre is like if Mexico had the Isle of Mann.
@@cwovictor3281 The island is much closer to the Mexican mainland than Tahiti (like thousands of kilometers less) and was actually settled for a while by Mexicans.
Also this was during the height of colonialism/Imperialism. Weird France never decolonized an area they stole from Mexico like they did with other nations.
Also there's the fact that they tried to do nuclear testing and other environmentally damaging actions up until the 80s that could had been disastrous for the Mexican locals on the coastline who depend on the waters for fishing and transportation
@@compatriot852 "stole from mexico" did you miss the part where Mexico literally stole it from the french who had arrived there first?
@@ABCD-sl2pn at that time ownership of land depended far more on "effective settlement and development" than "a guy flying our colors saw it 200 years ago". Mexico did more to keep and populate the island than France, simple as. The same logic applied to the claims of Portugal and Spain in Africa - it wasn't enough to have been the first to sail and explore the area, you needed to set up an actual colony to keep it!
@@RexAresius Ownership is not reliant on "effective settlement and development", thats just what your personal opinion on what ownership is. The french dejure owned the territory, all the maps and cartographers at the time would agree with this, then the mexicans came in with gunboats, forcibly took the land and then settled it with mexicans. And besides, no one lived on the island when they got it back so all that settlement means nothing towards a claim. "Uh its ours because we had a dozen people on that island, who have long since abandoned it" is a ridiculous way to claim land.
80% of africa want travel to life en europe ??
Why are bird names so dirty. Like who Tf called it brown booby. Cmon bro
Guano is bird poop
الشعب الاوروبي مهدد بالانقراض بعدة اسباب خطرها لمهاجرين و التناسل و التكاثر السريع للمسلمين في اوروبا و استراليا و كندا
Thank you.