What if American Slavery Never Existed?
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
- The Atlantic Slave Trade changed the demographics of the world forever and connected three continents. The act of slavery itself was so horrific it's affects are still seen to this day. So in a world where slavery never existed, what could things look like?
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I came back from the dead to be killed by both liberals and conservatives in the inevitable firestorm of comments.
big wieners
yoU do not agree with me POLITICALLY REEEEEEEEEE
GET THE TORCHES
Please Reply, PS You are awesome
AlternateHistoryHub What if America never intervened in the Soviet-Afghan war?
Wow... Sorry bout the bad timing....
Admit it you were scrolling through the comments to see people triggered
Grimstone 1 tup
yeah
Busted
Jup
ye
Imagine using slaves to mass produce sugar. Like, just get a crafting table bruh
Sugar don't exist, they are just soft drug
PłáyBøy *_cocaine_*
Oh *no*
Bruh how come these Europeans don’t just set up a piston farm
The Looinrims fr doe
To soon
Cody: “don’t hate me in the comments for picking this topic”
The comments: “why didn’t they just get sugar at the store? Jeez people are dumb”
The mind of the people is great to listen to and find out their thoughts. But honestly, they should have gone to Walmart
If this were twitter u would have gotten ratioed
@@00.kevinz "ratioed" ....
I hate this new version of the internet
@@thechrisman1345 tf is a ratio
@@intergalacticspaghetti5213 it’s a mathematical term
I'm Nigerian and I've often wondered about this lol. Great video I hope this doesn't get too much hate. Really shows the selfishness of humans regardless of colour
i'm nigerian too lol
I'm Nigerian also.
What state?
@@KOxxl imo but i live in lagos
@@j-core2895 I'm from Edo but I live in the States.
@@greatestindanationwide8332 lol your the guy who has a Maximilian profile pic loser 😂
I don't understand why they didn't just go to Walmart to get their sugar. History is strange
I-
Ikr
Walmart did not exist back then 😒
@@funnycat4241it’s a joke you poopy head
@@funnycat4241 woooosh
"British, Irish, Germans, Pols, Russians, you name it"
*Off in the bottom left*
"Californians"
I see what you did there.
Yeah, it's funny, right? I would imagine those means "Spanish", because seriously, the Spanish-Mexicans DID own California before the huge US influx.
@@Enyavar1 not what I was getting at.
@@tylerkmoore159 as in they are a whole new race of people?
@@spartangames836 No, something not pertaining to race. Instead think... I dunno, politics? Yeah, that.
@@spartangames836 don't worry.. I don't get it either.
I disagree, I think that the industrial revolution would’ve came earlier. The reason why I think that is because labor would have been more expensive without slavery therefore prompting cheaper ways to produce. And there is nothing like profits and desperation as a motive to seek innovations
Interesting.
@Kyl Glantz agreed. Not to mention the lack of national cohesion and establishment of political and capitalistic boundaries brought on by the trade.
@@TRUEROOTS2022 capitalisms were already forming before black slavery But it is possible that capitalisms does not form in the new world but unionism or syndicalism which would be more effective then capitalisms and less wasteful..
Yea like the roman empire our something
without slavery the global giants at the time would not have been able to make as much money as they did, therefore they would not be able to invest in any inventions and, those inventors would've gone bankrupt. which means we would be living in a alien world. (great argument though :D )
This video was actually under one my history teacher assigned me. In class he also explained how important slavery was. It's crazy to believe but holy cow remove one card and the entirety of history changes, it's so fascinating
I'm surprised you're not outraged at your teacher
@@nevaehhamilton3493 why would I be outraged? He basically taught us the same thing Alternate History did. Slavery wasn't a good thing at all, however if you took slavery out of the early world it would have crashed.
@@GachaRacing18 - Well, rather than "crashed" the development time would probably just be longer. History would go differently, not necessarily worse.
@@mokarokas-1727it would go worse
@@lizzygrant5546 - You forgot to add "I think" at the start of that sentence.
in an alternate universe, cody is talking about if slavery existed.
However, a change that great in the timeline (as Cody pointed out) would almost certainly mean that someone else, not Cody would be talking about if African slavery in the New World had happened. Too many changes over too many centuries would change too many lives for Cody or even his great great grandparents to have been born.
In another universe, no form of slavery existed at all, so there is no word for it.
In a alternate reality the Area 51 raid actually happened and not just a hangout
How would someone know about slavery of it didn't exist?
alternate universe x50
"there would be no institutional racism"
Literally forgot how the Natives would still go through being forced out of their homes and stuff.
Based.
and how basically every group of immigrants past the original english settlers were discriminated against
If America was settled by people that were less against everything that isn't us, then there would probably not have been any institutional racism
I believe without slavery in the timeline you mentioned it would have potentially started the industrial revolution earlier as the under population to farm the crops would potentially force Europe to mechanize earlier
That’s an excellent point, actually. Less workers could force people to invent ways around slow production. But I think that they’d need to suddenly lose a decent portion of the workforce, increasing the need for workers or something that could replace them
Maybe once the native people died off enough in the Caribbean, then people would’ve innovated ways to keep production up
No it would have started later, the industrial revolution required resources.
@@JabramAllen so if slavery did not exist does that mean all ethnicities would hate each other. In other words even worse than today?
. The overt belief in a feudal system vs capitalist was fed by the availability of slaves. Without this free labor the South would have more open to the idea of making "dirty, common money"
Slavery was how Europe and the north were able to start industrializing. Resources dont pop out of thin air
A moment of silence for the human still scrolling to find those mean/triggered comments.
We've been there bro..
Thanks. I needed that.
Where are they?
Use newest to find them
@@namelessLesbian Oh God you were right.
I found a few offensive jokes and a short-lived flame war somewhere down there. Keep looking.
What if Red Bull really gave you wings?
Glad somebody's asking the important questions in life.
I'll wager there'd be some really cool car chases. Imagine a bank robber leaping out of the getaway car, chugging a red bull, and flying away with a bag full of cash, but the cop leaps out too, so now they're both flying through the sky, but everyone would be flying and... well I don't know, but it'd be awesome.
Red Bull would never be sold to the public and would be mass produced and sold to a selected nation; Perhaps NATO, Heavy limitations for civilian use alongside foreign espionage of the RB Company to the point where every large scale military nation has access.
HappiestSadGuy What if the Red bull catchphrase made sense?
It be more valuable then Fuel.
We'd have to pay a bundle for new shirts or painkillers.
Meanwhile in Russia:
Enslave your people! Enslave everyone!
Or use them as cannon fodder during the war. There are plenty of people. What’s a couple million?
Yes, Enslave the Wind
More like soviet russia.
*G U L A G*
@@nobleman9393 enslave the winter
Kudos to you for at least having the intellectual bravery to make an objective attempt to theorize the alternate timeline and subsequent effects in a plausible and logically sound way
Actually he's wrong, before Azzara the guy who told all the lies about Africans, race did not exist. And yes people across the globe did interact. Ag.ain an attempt to whitewash history
@@JabramAllen Thank you for your feedback, please specify which parts (by time reference point) where he's "wrong" and then help me understand what actually happened. Peace.
@@JasonSpenc no response lmao
@JabramAllen You don't even know history, you wouldn't know if it was being whitewashed or not.
If slavery didn't exist then this video wouldn't have been made
Altaccounts 4lyfe that's true of all of his videos
Altaccounts 4lyfe 4d chest at it's finest
Well....you're not wrong
Altaccounts 4lyfe This video would have instead been called "what if American slavery existed"
Trampy Gamer Yup, but would it be called something else? Like, "What if capturing Minorities existed?" Although, if the video was what I called it would probably get a lot of backlash because the minority would be offended by the idea of working at a command, being unable to quit, and working for free, since it would be a rather rare or new idea.
Lol, I had to check when this was made when I saw the intro
Same
same
Jalani Odle what happened
Jimmy Alfano the sad death of George Floyd. you live under a rock mate?
No when this video came out, I know what happened this year
Rapper Lupe Fiasco actually took this concept to a whole other level and made a concept album where instead of the slaves being shipped to America in the slave trade, their ships crashed and became these protectors of the sea called the Long Chains
So slavery was never about racism, it was about money. I’m gonna be honest that makes a lot more sense
they didn't think of black people as people so that is racism.
Slavery didn't start because of racism but they were still very very very racist
Slavery was not about racism. Racism and Eugenics were used to JUSTIFY slavery.
@@NomadA1 if you don't think of a race as people that's racism.
@@kellyfye3886 You're misunderstanding. Slavery was about money. However, they justified it through racism and eugenics. Think conceptually.
Sad that the intro is still relevant 2 years later
Bruh I didn’t look at when this was made and thought it was made recently
yeah..
Now thats a big'ol oof
yeah...cos 2yrs shoulda fixed a problem thats THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD!..but yeah..sad
Mr Magoo sorry if I said anything to offend you. I simply was saying that this video is dated and the intro is still relevant.
West Indies: Exists
Europe: Its free real estate
Europe: *Hold my beer*
@@aid3782 Me and the boys going to the west indies
@@creapyalbinofish So if i come to your home with more firepower then you. Its free real estate
@@alphoford7709 Yep!
You going to call the police. We both know i would be wrong and my actions criminal.
Honestly, thank you. I was doing a project and this was one of the topics I was tackling, but I couldn’t find good enough resources to be able to truly explain. So thank you very much good friend!
There would be no Blues music, just think about that butterfly effect and how much of your life, personality, and style is based on music...
I would survive
not based on that kind of music
The both of you are missing the point, ALL modern music is the product of the Blues...
Good, but he's still not going to tell you the whole truth
Very little.
What if the ocean was replaced with Dr pepper?
then it would be highly acidic and life as we know it would not exist.
what ru gonna cry? u gonna cry now? Replaced not always Dr Pepper as in it transformed now what would happen to earth if it here and now was replaced
Matthew Loader something like those rats that disintegrate in coca cola
+James Reilly
no the world would approve upon itself and life would adapt to a Dr pepper ocean
yes but it would be delicious
For a topic full of landmines, I think you did very well. You certainly covered the evil side of history better than our schools ever did.
There is two types in the school
"US is terrible and should be hated for using slaves" or "It was a different time back then."
if you don't focus on the brutalities of it you missed the point
@@razortheonethelight7303 no I think there is a middle ground. That literarlly every country on earth has issues and has had them. But in reality the United States is the greatest. There isn’t a country better for black people, woman, and people in general on earth.
@@bbrathizza2075 hope you're joking
@@Johan590 nope not joking
I was thinking about this exact alternative scenario myself and glad to watch your theory on it.
Cody, your argument was very well thought out, and we'll presented. I applaud your willingness to stick your neck out on such a divisive topic in this time of history.
Wrong, once again he's whitewashing history, and making whites superior. It shows that he doesn't show much about history
@@JabramAllen how is he making whites look superior
*sees title
"Oh look, controversy"
Pig Mage ikr
*grabs popcorn*
"I'm just here for the comments."
no dont
Oxide do it
The sun is a deadly lazer
you dont need slavery to have slavery.
here on Brazil even with slavery banned you can still find people working on slave like conditions.
Shit! we are working everyday for slave wages, they just call it "gainful employment" instead of slavery. use up till our back gives out and tossed out like a used tissue.
no.
matthew benard thats capitalism for ya
@@mariabobia69 comunism*
Wellyngton Fernandes america isnt a communist country
When I was little I was shocked at how people hurted each other in the past. My child brain thought that slavery was a thing of the past but I was sadly wrong. There is still slavery in the form of prostitution and other horrible things. I wish I can stop it
@fuck e-thugs He said he wishes he could stop it lol.
@fuck e-thugs I understand him but people gonna keep killing eachother and enslaving eachother untill the end of time.
@fuck e-thugs Yeah even if what the new humans technically didn’t do slavery it would still be it but called different and practiced in different ways. I’m not justifying slavery i’m saying that people just gonna keep doing it.
About 1 to 2 million people are technically and legally enslaved in the United States today. They are called " inmates " or " prisoners"
@@seancrawford4134 There are millions of literal, actual slaves in the world today. Not prisoners. Not any convoluted definition of slave. Slaves the old-fashioned way. They're in the middle east and Asia, and some are being moved through Europe. They are of various races. There was an ad on Facebook for a castrated 70 kg slave.
Got here because the thought just occurred to me, I googled the scenario and your video was very near the top and looked like the most compelling rabbit hole to go down. Glad I made the leap, you covered this from multiple angles I hadn’t considered. Seems like at the end of the day, bad things are always going to happen when profit is the sole motive. If you force one bad thing out of the picture, another one just comes in to fill the vacuum.
Maybe there’s a video to be made on what it profit never became a motivator for humanity, but then I can only imagine the myriad consequences that would emerge as a result there as well.
We have recent examples of attempts to entirely remove the profit motive from society - Kampuchea was one. It did not, on the whole, turn out well.
Not found a single triggered comment but I've found plenty saying there are lots of triggered comments.
Ironic
most have been deleted i presume.
Maybe lucky
UA-cam in a nutshell.
Maybe its because leftists dont watch videos that teach you things...
@@ultrafire5330 I mean if you consider this a "video that teach you things" I first disprove your comment and I wouldn't be suprised if xanthous fish jeretuna was a leftist as well given their comment. Are you xanthous?
I didn’t notice that this was made 2 years ago cause the warning in the beginning
Same anon
Sickening, isn't it, that there always seems to be a relevant event to the warning?
Same I was surprised by the date of the video. I'm not even sure which current event he's talking about.
Shouldn't do a video about transatlantic slave trade and sugar plantations without mentioning that the Jews were dominant in both by a huge margin. Meet someone with the last name 'sugar'? Good chance theyrr Jewish and had ancestors who owned sugar plantations I'm places like sri Lanka
same
What if American slavery never existed?
Then people wouldn't have a reason to be angry and complain about the past all the time.
yes they obviously would
Interesting take! lot of information I had not previous heard or thought about. For such a touchy topic, I think you handled it really well!!! Do your feet hurt from trying to walk on eggshells? lol. Good video!
"When i mention slavery, its the American slavery that you think of, isnt it"
Britain :"Please dont mention historical context . . . . . . .dammit!!"
I imagine Rome and Ancient Egypt.
Man America's original sin was so detrimental. Look at all the rioting and
hate displayed in 2020 hundreds of years after it started.
@@sto4713 America still has plenty sins and there are many people alive who have experienced it..🤔
ffs im off to drink a cuppa now LOL
but tbf slavery was a thing caused more by the romans but Britain should've put an end to it sooner.
St Ozz But it’s not uniquely American. The sin of slavery was a world issue that lasted on large scale for millennia’s all over the world.
You didn't get into music being completely different. No slave songs, means no spirituals, blues, ragtime, jazz, rock, rap, etc. The banjo wouldn't have even been invented so bluegrass/country would have not been the same.
Underated comment. Most of my channel's content is the result of the impact of slavery.
beetovan was black
That music would still have been invented---only in Africa.
That's highly unlikely considering that jazz, Hip Hop and rap, and Afro-Caribbean musical styles were a direct response to slavery. These musical forms were an expression of freedom, which unlikely would have been created without the catalyst of slavery. To your point, I would argue that there would have been alternative forms of music that would have developed, but they would lack the cultural responsiveness and edginess of Black music today. Listen to Lupe Fiasco's "All Black Everything" if you haven't already. I like the alternate timeline where slavery never happened, and the Beastie Boys Eminem invented rap and then inspired Tupac Shakur. Thanks for sharing your perspective!
We could have made the music in Africa, everyone gets the blues sometime. I've been to Africa, they are very spiritual. The music goes with us, like our style, the way we walk, the way we wear our hair. It's who we are, what we are made of, it's in our soul. It's not the place we live, it's the people we are. My family has been here since 1670's and your saying that the U.S. needed slave to produce good music, is an insult!
I’m confused if the Europeans made money off of slavery then how would they have conquered Asia? Would it have been slower than in our timeline or what?
Imagine how low the crime rate would be, one can dream
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Well considering white people commit the most crimes it wouldn't change a bit .
@@joeyiwuajoku3394 bro doesn't understand the concept of per capita
Wonder on the state of race relations in 2018?
*scrolls through this comment section*
Danie F No joke the comments on this video are a bloodbath.
*Any comment section.
Danie F I'm not even gonna do it. 2018 invented the troll which triggers racism even more
Yea, the Far Right wing of America has taken over the internet forums, boards and comment sections. So they're gonna say the most vile racist shit you'll ever hear. They'll use to to say "you deserve to be treated like shit you n-word" and you can never convince them otherwise.. They're the fucking zerg man.
Danie F things would be very different. Alot of inventions and records would've never been invented. Alot of companies wouldn't exist. Obama would've never become president. It's a serious butterfly effect.
As my teacher describes sugar
"The crack cocaine of the historical world"
Woooooow that is so fucking true dude. Holy shit!
its the crack cocaine of my world
Opioids still existed but weren't as refined at the time, but studies have shown sugar has similar effects in the brain to cocaine and in some studies with rats it's proven to be more additive than cocaine. You can even go through sugar withdrawal which can lead to mental imbalances such as severe depression. The term "sugar high" isn't to far off and a "sugar crash" is much like coming down from a "drug".
👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@@redbear2113 Exactly
At this point I’ve learned to not go around surfing the entire comment section. It makes your head throb.
Good advice
I love how he is being realistic and not giving a single darn about what the youtube mods say
If we're not fighting over race it'd be religion and that's more so a choice
Exactly🤦♀️🤦♀️
Yup telling small minds 1% truth 99% lies and sitting back watching them tell and preach something they literally know nothing about then you ask 5gem why are you filled with hate they always say I don't know I was raised like this
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And land and power and money and ideals and buckets, you name it, we’ve fought over it. Even your mom.
jk, I’m sorry
Shows how dumb seeing color is doesn’t it……….
People are so scared of people getting "triggered" we can't even discuss a major part of our history I don't get what's so controversial about it.
Some are triggered but many of us are more than able to discuss the issue...
Here is an easier question, what if the Union had arrested the Slavers, and charged them for their beatings, rapes, etc. ???
The penalty for their crimes in the South was death, so what if the Union had done the right thing, and tried, convicted, and executed all the Americans who were involved in the horrible practice of slavery ???
The reason its "controversial" is because there will always be some of those people who'd just any excuse to act the victim, I'm not saying that the fact your race was exploited in the past is good (slavery, racism and prejudice and such disgust me) but the fact that you're using that as an excuse to do something today is just plain stupid, it's all in the past, its history not society today so don't think its a valid excuse
Sorry for the slight rant there
Edit: if you're going to reply to this, at least bother reading my other comments
In short, I'm not downplaying the acts against a race nor saying that there aren't still existing issues as of it, I am merely just stating we should be able to freely discuss history of controversial topics. I'm not trying to be racist or downplaying acts of racism. I'm not claiming or in a position to judge if you guys are being treated equally to this day or not
shutup
David Hollenshead it was mainly the rich folks who had slaves the people who fought for the south mostly didn’t own slaves
@@davidhollenshead4892 That'd been nice.
What would the music be like without slavery, essentially all modern music links back to the slave trade with spirituals and the blues
Interesting. One correction though, Africans were absolutely kidnapped directly by British traders.
I think he was trying to mean that europeans didn't kidnap all the slaves sold, quite a few, but most were sold by rulers to european merchants.
No they bought them from their African and Arab owners
Why use slaves when u can use a red stone system with pistons
That's true, redstone at least always works.
Oh yeah this is big brain time
Well that just sounds like slavery with extra steps
Everyone needed
Don't know why but redstones and piston reminds me of Minecraft for some reasons 🤔🥴
As an AA, I have at times wondered about this idea myself. Slavery was never solely about racism. It was about MONEY, whether for the Europeans, the colonists, or the African traders. Forced free labor was needed to facilitate the whims of people with no work ethic. How long those people thought that system would last is a question for the ages. Well we know at least one white person actually considered the alternative. Interesting. Thanks for thinking.
👍🏽👍🏽 How long those people thought that system would last is a question for the ages
@King Of the krispy because Africans were an easy target; you had kings who were eager to sell them off, while no European king would have sold his own people into slavery
@King Of the krispy you just answered your own question, white slaves were used...
@@hanjoshitmata5602 they weren't there people in there eyes there a weaker tribe. When theres no way such a skin or religion to set yourself apart you will eventually find something to fight about.
Hanjo Africans never sold their own unless it was a rival, rebel or war prisoner. They sold external rivals enemies and with European support waged wars to enslave weaker smaller tribes nation states and kingdoms.
thank you for making this video. I have often wondered this very thing.
Was hoping you would've predicted more about the development of Africa itself rather than just how it effected america and Europe
Africa wouldn’t have developed. Simple as
@@tomfriendly2412 but they were already on their way to development before slavery...
@@MrMinevision1 “b-but africa was literally gonna be so great if those colonists never came!” dude, africa will literally never progress beyond the level they’re at now, and they wouldn’t have with or without colonialism or whatever you think caused their stagnant progress. you’re lying to yourself.
@@tomfriendly2412 I know I'm wasting my time engaging you at all but how much about African history do you even know? or culture at all. Do you know anything about their traditions and or cultures and the way their societies functioned and operated before colonialism? I'll tell you if the answer is no and this is just ignorance but if you genuinely don't have an interest then you really shouldn't make claims like this it doesn't paint you in the best light....
@@tomfriendly2412 I think corruption is a big problem that is causing the lack of progress in africa tbh. That isn't a lie.
1..2..3..4.. I declare a flame war.
what ru gonna cry? u gonna cry now? tf2 sucks
oh god not this battle
what ru gonna cry? u gonna cry now? Brazzer is better than pornhub
5...6...7...8.. I am going to masturbate
so are you Julius Fieser?
What if England was a city?
The Collar would have to be Poppin'.
No one would live in Compton
They need some serious Disney Channel flow
No thanks to the meme and the actual "song" kids are actually starting to think that.
There is an actual city called England look it up.
Huh, no firestorm in the comments, did it die down and people deleted their less the thoughtful comments?
exactly what I thought, I think we need to dig deeper to find them
I scrolled down in newest first (bad idea) and like instantly found one that was pretty much pro slavery
I suspect the Americas would be quite similar to Australia actually.
Do What if Australia won the Great Emu War
World peace and Australian dominance.
et 37 they never stood a chance
Emu are a natural power balance. Without them the drop bears finally get the upper hand and launch a full scale invasion against humanity. Early 20th century weapons would have stood no chance against the hoards of man eaters. Pray that there will always be Emu.
Nobody wins against the Emus
No
Perhaps the music would have been really different, similar to orchestra, no African music, no jazz, no rock. Modern music would not be the same
Atilamaster118 that might've been a good thing
Atilamaster118 i think technology effected music more then culture itself did at least the sound of it maybe not the themes of the music but definitely the sound.think about it metal doesn't exist without distorted guitars. rock and roll doesn't exist without the amplifiers and microphones used.why does 80s music sound the way it does it sounds that way because of the modern synth all sounds that were not available before.
Atilamaster118 rock would most likely be here
Unspherdcomb6 No it wouldn't because it was heavily influenced by blues music.
And no rap or hip hop? Plenty of problems solved right there
The financial side of slavery was taught in an Anti- racism course I took.
How that financial side sparked legal support of "race" for political reasons.
Specifically that all original slaves in America were indentured but with the loss of labor after time served those with the wealth sought to retain their free labor.
It is fascinating and people should learn more about our history. Learn how legally and politically those in power sought to get the public to be ok with permanent slavery for certain peoples.
Race was a legally defined construct. One could be a different race dependent on the state they lived. People could petition the Supreme Court to legally change their race.
Anti racism class? Lol
Now imagine the cost after. from cities changing, housing prices changing, costs to the US tax payer for social programs, and laws, law suits etc. The US lost more than it ever gained and continues losing.
It’s kinda funny (in a pretty unfortunate way) how no matter when you watch this, the preface about not relating to “any recent events” really doesn’t narrow down when this video was made…
What if Frieza did not Destroy Planet Vegeta
there is a manga that was written but then suddenly stopped after only a few pages where it imagines that future trucks travels to the moment raditz lands on earth instead of when metal frieza does... I would love to see that manga completed for the entire timeline...
Some Dude
Goku would not be a god.
Then they're would PROBABLY be more Saiyans to invade Earth than just Raditz, Nappa and Vegeta.... also, Goku might not have arrived on Earth period.
Then you would have a planet full of potential SSG's Pretty fucking dangerous if you think about it.
Ahp, they need to be "pure of heart" for that trick to work. And not that "pure evil to the core" crap Vegeta said in the Kai dub. Just Super Saiyans though, that's a real possibility and one that will most certainly bring chaos to the DB universe.
most of this comment section is just people commenting on how people are commenting about how there are no triggered comments.... shit Im just part of the loop now
A valiant efffort. Instant follow from me. Gd speed, my good man. Gd speed.
Slavery was one of the Cruel things our species has ever done and sadly in some places it still happens in secret which breaks my heart
Dont forget that slavery wasnt just an European thing Arabs had a huge slave trade, Ottomans traded whites from the balkans and many asian kingdoms praticed slavery on smaler scale
Mateusz rfsef that is why he said *American slavery*
Mateusz rfsef Christanity originally banned slavery.
Mateusz rfsef yeah, stop deflecting and start feeling guilty for what your ancestors did already. How dare you point out factual historical information that relates to the subject being discussed instead of falling to your knees and proselytizing yourself before the masses. The only words that should be coming out of your filthy white mouth is 'I'm so sorry.' and 'Here's all my money.'
Miguel Meneses Hernandez the difference between the arab and turkish slavery system and the european based one is that there was no such thing as race or superiority involved
jj jj So it makes it totally cool for how many to die on the march across the desert? Or by mutilation to create eunuchs? Or to still have forced slaves to this day?
First thing I thought about was popular culture. Lots of music genres wouldn’t exist
Yup
M P ooook? Who is them? What do you mean eliminate ? @fbi
I’ll take the prosperity of minorities over the creation of certain music genres.
I see that as an absolute win.
@@CarlosMorales-wd9ng - Except the Africans would still be oppressed and their land made used of for Europeans, even as it is now.
I was playing a few weeks ago and the "slave" topic was brought up because I am portuguese. I mentioned that someone was wrong by saying that "we" (because I'm not 500 years old) started slavery. I mentioned that slavery was already a common practice and African kingdoms would take advantage of it and even sell slaves to the Europeans. I was immediately contradicted by someone who said they were African and that, according to what they learned at school, "We" were the villains that came into their homes and kidnapped them. I mean, I ended the talk shortly after, there's no way I'm gonna tell someone "No, you're completely wrong and I feel like you've been lied to all your life". Any thoughts on this? (Yes, slavery was humanely brutal and wrong, I do not defend or support any of it. My point is that the Portuguese and Spanish from that time did not invent slavery, it's probably the oldest practice on Earth.)
The type of slavery practiced by African was no way similar to that of Europe! Yours was dehumanizing! Africans had war slaves but those slaves were eventually absorbed into the families. After a while, you couldn't tell who a slave was for the most part.
My personal belief is that while slavery was an awful and evil practice, one should not be punished nor held accountable for the sins of their forefathers. You didn't own slaves yourself, and you know that slavery is wrong, so you really aren't the villain. Even then, it was a different time period back then, if someone was different, they were probably enslaved or taken advantage of. Your ancestors just happened to be part of the unenslaved percentage.
@@blessedone6516 Thats a half truth. In that it's true only for specific localities in varying tribes and kingdons (of the era). This was overall rare. The myth bugs me, please forgive my following essay.
The African slave system was highly connected to the middle eastern (islamic) slave trade - and historically synonymous. This is the oldest and first slave system (excluding the greater Asian continent). It's one of the most historically brutal things one human has done to another, and for perspective comparison it was many times worse than any other similar system. The scale of it was insane and it's still alive today in smaller forms.
@@executivecarrot3420 that's pretty easy for you to say without referencing any sources! The sun Saharan slave trade was evil and brutal but doesn't diminish the trans Atlantic slave trade in any way. Europeans and their descendants are always hasty to make it seem like Africans colluded in slavery without clarifying that there were varying accounts. There were African kings that were dethroned, so their empires could be plundered! When will you give an accurate account without attempting to vilify those Africans?
@@blessedone6516 I'm not villifying Africans, they were undoubtedly the victims. I dont blame or villanize anyone for this stuff. Ive studied history enough to know that every chapter is dictated by what preceded it.. I'm also not going to go source hunting for a youtube comment.
I was only addressing the myth that Africans didn't know the true horror of the white man's slavery because theirs was so sunshine and rainbows as bull. It was just as brutal, was far larger, and lasts to this day.
The destruction wrought upon the African continent from the Islamic slave trade was a major piece that enabled the Atlanic trade to happen in the first place.
Thanks for making this video and starting the topic… however, I think you are forgetting Europeans and Africans interacted before the Atlantic slave trade… I don’t think Africans wouldn’t have been forgotten about as you emphasize… also, Europeans weren’t the only ones in NA, lmao so idk if they would have had the same success without chattel slavery
without slave labour, wouldn't there be greater incentive to mechanize sooner?
Without slave labour, there would be less money to fund it.
People didn't even know such a thing was possible. To them it would seem ridiculous. And also no funding, Europe would be much poorer overall.
There was not all that much money from slavery funding industrialization you know. What spurred industrialization in america was the boycott of europe, slavery didn't matter.
YOU ASSUME TOO MUCH! EUROPEAN PEOPLE HAD ETHICAL PROBLEMS WITH ENSLAVING THERE OWN (NOT THAT THEY DIDN'T DO IT, BUT THEY CERTAINLY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO IT AT THAT HUGE A SCALE).
It's crazy that Africans would have been viewed as non-humans, when humans pretty much began in Africa.
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Lmao facts
Europeans viewed Asians the same way.
Hi Max, precisely......My point to the maker was: Your postulation that Africans long before the trans-Atlantic slave trade were thought of as inferior is simply not true, there are numerous documented accounts to the contrary. It's a sad fact that Europeans named the continent after a white Dutch explorer. That certainly wasn't the last time that would happen, ask the Native Americans. I think it's very telling of your own predilections that you'd make such postulation predicated on at best spin. Having said that I agree that America would not be on the map as a world super power if not for slavery.
And it’s so funny that Africans didn’t sell Africans into slavery. They sold the Israelites into slavery
@@Trillvil1 Shalom, I can't tell you how long I waited to hear that from another student off history. I'd love to correspond with you more. I hope to hear from you soon.
If slavery never happened I wouldn't have to be dealing with slaves jokes for my whole life
What a horrible thing people 😭😭😭😢😭😭😢😭😢😭😢😭😢😭
fun fact: slavery was never about race example would be the irish.
Yeah I know about this too.
But goodluck handling the other toxic comments.
@@echidnanatsuki882 thanks
It wasn't about race for the first decades but after a while racism began appearing
It wasn't about race until people realized it was profitable to exploit a certain people they had already conquered. And then later people who wanted to rationalize the fact that they had slaves to themselves decided that it must be that the enslaved race is somehow bad.
"Until the lion tells his side of the story, the tale of the hunt will always glorify the hunter.” - African Proverb
- Not Relevant African Proverb.
* "There are two types of people, whites and others"
* Archie Bunker - American Philosopher
Jay Lopes yes in the words of the self centered white man. The arrogance is truly bliss
Jay Lopes ohhh snowflake. you're doing that thing again. being sensitive. you can be upset though. it's human
Error - like I said you people are good at the hustle, I write crime statistics then ask for a reply, all you do is write frivolous one liners
U know I’m black and uhh I actually really love to talk about these kinds of hypotheticals the what if’s of slavery is interesting and I also like to point out that literally every race on our great green earth has been enslaved in some form or fashion
Yes, even today alot of people are enslaved, but blind to the eye of the government.
East Europeans white women for example, are trafficked into slavery in the west.
All under our very noses.
Harrison Dula very true
You’re not black nice try though 😂
mazzb305 how do u know?
Crazy Child Call it a hunch. He's a troll
I'd rather not be thought about at all than be thought about in the wrong way. Egypt, Mali, and Ethiopia already had thriving civilizations without being "thought about" by the Europeans. Bring on the apathy, thank you.
Yes the Arabs thought them what to do
@@nowu6798 no jack ass. the ethiopians where well known and some of the first christians.
@@SCHRODINGERS_WHORE ever heard of Aksum empire? Yemen is in the middle east
@@SCHRODINGERS_WHORE and when did being Arab automatically make you Muslim?
@@nowu6798 I never said that, dude.
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HI, yes , just a neutral comment passing by...
i wonder where our role is in this because its all coming to a head, i dont want to be in a race war
@Ryan McCreedy you too friendo
There is no neutrality on the internet and if you are, your the enemy of both sides
*neutrality
Gay day
It's possible the Europeans would have recruited Indian and Chinese labourers to work the plantations, as happened after the end of slavery. Perhaps the cultures of Brazil and the Caribbean would have strong Southeast Asian influences instead of African ones. New Orleans might be known for its bhangra music scene, instead of jazz.
If you look at the Caribbean we actually have a strong Asian influence. Many persons are of East Indian descent--especially in Trinidad and Guyana. Popular dishes like Curry Chicken, Curry Goat, roti and callaloo are heavily drawn from Asia. Also, the use of ganja/marijuana for spiritual and medicinal purposes
amongst a host of many other things. :)
Very cool. I always wondered where the curry dishes in Caribbean cuisine originated from.
If we're talking music? It should be stated that a lot of what we think of as African-American music (jazz, rnb, rock and roll, etc) took heavy influences from different European-American music styles as well as that of some indigenous American groups sometimes, and it might be that such styles would've developed anyways but with varying kinds of 'ethnic' slants. Maybe Ritchie Valens esque Latino rock (which does share a ton with classic Chuck Berry style rock n roll) would've been one of the defining cultural trends of the 50s and 60s, say, instead.
Arthur Williams Hmm.
China was fairly strong in the 15th-16th century, so instead of taking labor from there, I reckon that China would have had to modernize to meet the challenge from the West in Southeast Asia. This could have led to China dominating much of this region.
Loved this video, it was very thoughtful and insightful. Sorry for the terrible comments I'm sure this got
I actually do think of slavery in ancient Rome. I didn't learn about American slavery until middle school here in Finland, meanwhile I learned about slavery in Rome, and slavery in general, reading fiction in like 5th grade. Pretty romantizized view of it, I remember the book had a slave teacher who was very well treated and eventually freed, but still.
From what i know, that did happen sometimes in the roman era. They loved getting greek slaves for teaching and other non fisical tasks. About the freeing, depending of the era, and other specifics, slaves could earn their freedom if they worked long enough. After the changes by the Gracci to include more people as roman citizens, it helped, and various other reforms the passed to diminish the latifunds of slave owners... wait a second...
@@Pedro_Colicigno In the book I think he got freed early as thanks for saving the life of a child. Either the slave owner's own child, or the child's close friend.
What if this comment section never existed?
Meikel then i wouldnt get cancer
I wouldn't be tying this noose ...
I’m dead 💀💀💀
Actually it was a good scenario
*What if social media never existed*
A bunch of ignorant dickheads and virtue-signalling SJWs would have a load of pent up rage?
Labor shortage? 18th century? The Irish, all done
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@@badfoody Slave trade stated in the 1600's Irish had their issues in the 1800 and started coming to the U.S. in the 1820s. And in this new timeline that Cody put forth, who is to say that what happened in Ireland would still have happened. So this would have not stopped anything.
@@ShaneDocPuff also the American colonies prob wouldn't have survived let alone go beyond the coast.. plus there wasn't enough Irish to be able to build such vast production.. the only reason we live in the world today is millions of people giving free labor on the treat of death and violence.. the world would not be the same.. we prob would be just going through some form of major industrial revolution under some unknown country
To this day, the machine that replaces the labor of hundreds of field hands cutting sugarcane with machetes is known as “the Liberator.”
I was happy for Portugal making a presence in the video ... Boy was I wrong .
Sad Portugal noises ....
NO STOP GO BACK UP GO BACK UP
You're too late the horrors will never escape me
@@crazymannxl why did you do it sean. You fool.
@@April_a26 it's an addiction I can't help myself
@@crazymannxl you're addicted to racist people
@@April_a26 but their stupidity is so entertaining
What if the Seahawks ran the ball?
Kəndall
Then they would have won Super Bowl 49 31-28
Kəndall What if the Panthers were good?
Kəndall they're my favorite team and they'll never live that down. It was a huge disappointment.
Africans and Natives: (Exist)
Britain and Spain: We’re gonna do what's called a pro-gamer move.
Lol
Love the vids
you didn’t mention convict labour like they had in Australia after slavery got abolished. if they had turned their back on slave labour and had convict labour there would have been no civil war for a start.
The US did convicted labor literally right after slavery it's called peonage. They'll walk up to a random black teenager and say "you owe me money" and then use their friends and buddies to make the person legally liable for a fictitious debt and boom chaingangs..
@Enclave Soldier
lol it was about the state's rights to have slaves.
@Enclave Soldier yeah it was.
Enclave Soldier States rights, cultural differences, and economic differences were also reasons for the Civil War, but, slavery was the main reason without a doubt. The Confederacy’s economy was solely reliant on slave labor. If it disappeared the entire southern economy would crash forcing plantation owners into financial ruin. The south already had a substantial wealth gap with the large plantation owners having most of the money, their downfall would’ve meant everybody’s ruin. The Confederacy had everything to lose when it came to the abolishment of slavery, they just didn’t want to go down without a fight.
@@HatWearingDog The southern economy would be reliant on convict labour instead of slave labour and they wouldn’t have got sympathy either because they committed a crime unlike the slave labour. There would have been riots with convict labour, States rights, cultural differences, and economic differences no doubt, but it would all have all blown over.
The fact that Europeans still own African art and get a lot of money, European and America still own most Mines if not all in Africa. China as well is currently starting a second colonisation and African leaders are giving China Africa on a silver platter.
Pray for Africa
Maybe we should resettle our African-amercians there equipped with education to help Africa stand on her own feet for once.
@@grstout Africa wants nothing to do with "African" Americans.
Why would we need African-Americans?
@@jamiejames416 well everything cool about the US is from African Americans brooo. So u need them
@@grstout thats not what Africa needs... a lot of Africans are inspired man really educated and wanna make their parents proud, many are becoming Doctors, Scientists, Lawyers, etc many go to acting and the industry whereas the uneducated try so hard to join politics thats the issue
Africa doesn't need African Americans honestly... its a shame they don't knoe their roots or languages that gives u an advantage. But Africa needs educated politicians that is new leaders who aint gonna be busy making money for themselves.
If you would like to end slavery once and for all you must understand it’s incentives. Not just the human factor. Well done.
Im surprised that most of the comments isn't related to the video at all.
John Deadman (Yes Sir you caught that too!)
THATS BECAUSE 90% OF THE RESPONSES ARE FROM COMPLETE DUM ASSES!!! I WOULD LIKE TO STICK MY FOOT UP EVERYONES ASSES THEN SEE HOW THEY FEEL!!!
It's the comment section.
I'm surprised it isn't growing tumours faster than a gatling gun can spread freedom.
this one too
Yes it is
They used indentured servants for hundreds of years. The problem was - at the end of their term - you were supposed to let them go. They were then supposed to be able to get land and become productive colonists. People volunteered to be indentured servants.
In the South, slavery ruined all this resulting in poor whites being effectively surplus and pushed into marginal swamps and mountains.
In the north, without slaves, land grants encouraged a constant stream of peasant farmers to settle.
Thing is, it was the North that first legalized slavery, though admittedly they started by enslaving Indians rather than blacks, the fact remains that the North had no problems with slavery. Actually, a lot of Northern Founding Fathers like John Hancock and Stephen Hopkins made their fortunes in the triangle trade
Umh not really. There were many diffrent kinds of slaves and most of them were bad.
Some werent horrible or awful. But in almost every war outside of inner europe the losers were capture and sold as slaves.
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A lot of people were indentured servants as punishment, frequently for crimes of poverty; England had taken over Ireland and confiscated all the land and the newly tenant farmers were responsible for paying money in exchange for the rent, rather than a portion of crops.
@@eave01
Yes - people convicted of petty crimes were sent out as indentured servants as an alternative to being hung! They used to recruit young men for the army in the same way!
People with no other options volunteered too.
Signing up as a servant for one year was common throughout Europe. To go to the colonies you had to sign up for 3-5 years.
2. It's fascinating to ponder the ramifications of this alternate world
Good video. I have no idea the likelihood of this outcome but it seems a very educated theory.
Now I'm wondering what the world would've been like if Christopher Columbus and the Europeans would have been chased out by American natives
They would’ve came back with an army?
Sarcalogos Tortolero but what if the natives was too strong?
Not super sure, but I do think there have been a few cases in which forceful invasions with an army were not successful in the Americas.
This was due to the numbers of soldiers that could be sent all the way from Europe to the new world and the amount of time needed to send reinforcements.
It might have been possible for natives to win just with numbers and better knowledge of the land (allowing them to use surprise attacks and traps.
If Europeans are unable to keep a constant stream of soldiers being sent over and are faced with the increasing costs, then what would they do?
Lil karmicheal they did fight, once it was too late
They wouldnt have lasted long anyway. You can only last so long against a determined enemy that has sea faring ships, colonial enriched economies, and gunpowder when your own civilization hadnt invented the wheel yet.
The indigenous Americans weren’t mentioned. There would have been many different groups of people in America without the African slave trade.
Assuming the natives were still suppressed like in our timeline, I doubt they would've played a larger role (unless THEY became the targets of slavery) considering they only make up 1% of the current US population.
He did mention the Americans. He said they bc of European diseases. Plus, they knew the land and were high escape risk
He did mention them Sis. They were still wiped out by colonizers smh
@Thomas Douglas it would be awesome if he made an alternate reality w native americans that had guns and ammo against the Europeans
Moors were here not Indians . Indians are some made up name becuse hindu are called Indians . knowing the truth and being what I know has been great . THANKS !
It's only a triggering conversation because you literally CAN'T just look at the cold hard facts because those facts are so hard and cold. If we had just been left alone in Africa we would have interacted with the rest of the world by choice. On our time. I would not be see coopting and simultaneous destruction of my culture constantly. I would not be fearing for my life from someone who hates me or FEARS me because I don't match their skin tone. To be clear. This isn't to attack you as I think this vid does a great job of recounting world history without a filter. I can appreciate the care you took in the topic and hopefully it illuminates the depth of this historic tragedy to your non POC viewers. I am slightly worried though and here's why.
While we are not a monolith, almost no Black or Pan African person CARES how much gold, tobacco, sugar, land or cotton would have been lost had our lives not been forfeit. Because it wasn't just indentured servitude, which is what most Non-Colonial or Non- American slavery was at the time. THAT was what our Kings and Queens thought they were selling people into. We sold slaves within our own continent... but the difference was they were still considered people. Not beasts of burden. Not being of sin made for generations of pain, SA, R, exploitation and torture at the hands of hateful colonists. I know so many who would trade every drop of profit and ounce of progress for the lives of our ancestors... The colonists would have had to work for themselves and empires would not have been built on our backs. Or more likely and just as screwed... it would have been done to another people.
If you are a non POC this gets to be just a thought experiment or controversial thought provoking head canon, [well researched though it is] For us it's deeply deeply personal. And the saddest part is your video really highlighted once again how much the world has profited off us while it continues to try and destroy us, and it's been happening since foreign feet touched the Motherland's shores. The long short of it is is the Transatlantic Slave Trade not happening would have caused a domino effect that would have forced the rest of the world to progress and evolve [waaaay slower] without free labor. And I really think our world would be better off for it.
You did a great job explaining this
@@Slimebu Ase!
Thank you for adding this context! I knew that slavery was common in africa back then but i thought it was a bit similar to what americans and british did
There's a bit of history that you missed... Blacks used to trade with Europe and the Far East pre lave trade... even ruled parts of Europe and settled in some areas including the moors... they were as human as the next man... Slavery and racist explorers changed that.
He defo missed out some history , but he covered some good points.
Not from lack of trying first. They probably would have emptied every jail and dungeon in Europe before calling it quits. America would have been the first attempt at penal colonies, besides just Georgia. So we would've had the convicts, the various Christian groups escaping persecution, the Jews escaping Inquisitions, etc.
For GB Australia then may have stayed out of the picture for quite a while longer, simply because there was no workforce left to colonize it.
heh... this is a very thoughtful take. This and thinking about another take this channel had about the black plauge and how the reduction in labor allowed workers to successfully make political and economic demands, sparking innovations that an aristocracy wouldnt have.
Slavery not being a thing would have acted in the same way, European workers wouldn't want to live in the colonies... Unless you paid them well.
It may well have ended in smaller more advanced nations in the end.
Penal colony of the US, sure, instead of Australia. OK. But lets not forget, the Quakers were already in the US, the English, French, Danish, even the Swedes (anyone remember New Sweden?). That said, the US would still grow, but slower, and differently. Expansion South and West would have been slower. This gives the Native Americans more time to organize and fight back. Maybe a real strong Indian Confederacy, State or Country based around the Great Lakes? Remember... there were 100 million Native Americans in the Americas...
And if that was the case they wouldve been kindly compensated by now
I can see it now, the heavily Jewish New York tries to flat out become Israel in this timeline.