Most Popular Trigger Pull Gauges Test And Review
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- Опубліковано 11 кві 2021
- I tested the top 4 most popular trigger pull gauges that I could find being sold. Tested for accuracy, reliability, and ease of use.
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Perhaps you should have read the instructions for the wheeler digital scale? You have to put ur finger behind the load sensor as you slowly pull the trigger with the load sensor between your finger and the trigger. That's why it comes with a curved as well as a flat yellow rubber piece for flat and curved faces triggers. Your destroying the Guage according to the instructions by the way your using it. Very accurate guage. I am a licensed gun smith. I went through classes at M.G.S
I just bought the Wheeler from Amazon so I can easily return it and get the Lyman if I don't like it. The instructions don't say or imply that it will destroy the gauge by using only the arm to pull the trigger. The instructions show it as a "Tip: Placing your finger over the back side of the sensor housing allows you to precisely control the trigger pull".
That said, I do think you get a more accurate reading by using a finger behind the sensor. Sometimes the reading gets thrown off after the break, when there is a quick rearward movement of the trigger. If the sensor is still pressing against the trigger when it hits the rearmost stop, a higher reading can be shown. Any trigger gauge with a hook type pull could benefit from using this method. Once you get the hang of it, the readings are much more accurate by controlling it this way. The biggest difference between the Lyman and Wheeler is that the Wheeler has a sensor on the end of the arm. The Lyman just has a metal hook so the reading is being taken at the end of the "arm", inside the unit. The Wheeler takes its reading from a sensor on the end of the "arm". It would SEEM like there may be an advantage to having the sensor pressing against the trigger itself, but that's just my speculation...I need to do more testing before I can come to that conclusion.
Yea I wasn't following the instructions but I don't think I was destroying anything here. Also, how many people are gonna do it the right way. At the least it's an unintuitive gauge and I still recommend the lyman when people ask. I do appreciate the comment and you're right I wasn't using properly.
After spending a few days with the Wheeler digital gauge, it's going back to Amazon and the Lyman is on the way, to be delivered tomorrow. My main complaint with the Wheeler is the bulky sensor on the end of the arm. It just barely clears the space between the trigger and trigger guard on some guns. I can get accurate readings with the Wheeler, especially with my finger behind the sensor, but it's more of a pain in the ass and an more of an exercise in frustration than it has to be.
I agree that you need to place your finger on the back of the sensor.
People are also complaining that the Wheeler gives incorrect averages as well. It gives correct averages! I suspect those folks that are saying it provides incorrect averages are calculating average incorrectly. You can’t add up the pounds and ounces together then divide by the number of readings. Pounds and ounces are different units. If you want to calculate an average then you need to convert the readings to the same unit (ie ounces or pounds) then add them up and take an average based on the number of readings. Then take that result and convert to pounds and ounces.
@@franm1999 Math and science are hard for everyone, since the Dept of DeEducation taught them common core.
Great comparisons, thanks for the information !
You can hit “ready” after you turn it upside down and “tare” 2.3oz. (The weight of the arm
Weird, I can't get my wheeler manual gauge to stick however I try. Interesting test. I did run into the weight limit doing some friend's rifles, but then I just told them their factory triggers are garbage.
You lead me back to Lyman - good vid...
So many vids use the Lyman, anyway - so hopefully they have similar accuracy and precision.
Keep makin' vids - you're doing fine.
Dude trigger pull gauges don't measure static weight well. They were NOT designed for that. They were designed to measure DYNAMIC WEIGHT measurements.
Won't they measure the weight applied either way? A 5lb trigger pull may not be 5 lb all the way through the pull but eventually it takes 5 lb to pull it.
Great comparison. I just subscribed
Good info. I ordered a Lyman.
Can't help but think you are using the trigger pull gauges as a weight scale. I don't think they work quite the same. Trigger pull measures pressure in pounds at the moment of break. I would think the proper method would be to lock down the gun or otherwise imobilize it and then make a measurement. This eliminates any loss variations due to movement of the gun, kinda like the limp wrist effect. If the measuring device causes motion in the pull direction then not only will it be inaccurate but it will create a great variation with each attempt. I know, I see everyone do it while taking measurements and it's just wrong.
yea it did affect the readings a little maybe. There's also variations in every trigger too
He was testing the accuracy with the weights(how close are they to the correct answer) not really function(will the answer it gives me be read at the instant the trigger breaks or will it be from another point in the pull). The scales measure force in lbs/oz, regardless of what's on the other end( trigger, bricks, ect..). You've probably seen versions of the manual spring scales for a lot of things(for fishing, in the produce section, ect...), and digital hanging scales too. If you take a rifle with a 3 lbs trigger and stand it muzzle up, then place weights on the trigger (with a string or whatever) then the trigger will or should break when a total of 3 lbs has been added, that's why stupid light competition triggers(1oz) will break under their own weight if you turn it muzzle up while cocked. His tests were valid. You are correct about putting the rifle in a vise to get an accurate measurement of the pull weight though.
I do believe that the Lyman was giving you the weight of the trigger pull arm when you held it with the trigger arm pointing down. That would not be an error of any kind. I have an old RCBS manual spring trigger gauge that is pretty accurate, but it does not have a marker that locks in place for its reading. You have to look at it and see where it tops off before breaking. I am thinking about getting the Lyman because they seem to be the most reliable and accurate of what is on the market for digitals. Nice video. BTW I do have some Wheeler Tool Kits and Tools for my AR's, they look good but are not all that they are cracked up to be. Many sizes are not included with the FAT Wrench kit and the other kit lacks sizes that are common in gunsmithing as well. In the gun world you don't always get what you think you paid for in tools for gunsmithing.
Good video. I stumbled onto your channel because I just picked up a Beretta 92x Performance. This video does make me wonder a little about the accuracy of my Wheeler F.A.T. wrench...
At least with the wrench you get a calibration certificate.
@@alanmeyers3957 I have a FAT wrench be sure to back it off after use because it warns you that if you leave it set and don't back it off to zero you could alter the calibration over a period of time. Torque Wrenches are not necessarily spot on, but they will certainly get you in the ballpark of where you need to be.
good test system. thanks for saving me from buying an inferior product.
GPS SAYS on the packaging that it doesn't matter if your right-handed or left-handed
I was on the fence about which gauge to buy. I've been looking at one digital on amazon that's around $20. It seems to be fairly accurate except for the funky way you use it. You have to put its sensor on the trigger and put you finger over it to get accurate reading. That's assuming you your trigger guard is large enough. I was leaning toward the Wheeler but had some reservations about its design. From your tests and other reviews I've seen it looks like the Lyman will be my choice.
If I want to listen to music I’d pick a better video. Loose the music and you might get more than 3 👍
Thanks for the tip. Yea no one likes this video, I'm still learning how to do youtube. Maybe I'll look for better music for future videos or just do no music at all
I have the Wheeler digital and mine is junk too.
probably the weight of the bar is not calculated in when you hang it upside down.
when pulling on a trigger you hold it flat so that's maybe the reason
Yea that's gotta be it. When I use it on a trigger holding flat, there's never an issue.
@@NeckboneArmory ordered myself one because of your tests. well done
@@NeckboneArmory Turn the Lyman upside down hit clear then ready, this will eliminate the 2 oz +/- differential.
nice video
how long have you been working with lyman?
Good job, im ordering the lineman.
how much is (JUST ABOUT A HALF)??
Can i measure with newton force meter
I worked in a crime lab for several years. My findings are that the actual weight set trigger pull systems are cut and dry acurate. The only place that I have seen these sets sold on the consumer market was at the glock stores web page. Great side by side breakdown.
SKIP THROUGH THE FLUFF AND GO TO 10:45
perhaps all less reliable then the feel of the trigger finger
I don’t know why people incorporate ridiculous music into their instructional videos. I tend to turn off a video when I run into this.
So, basically, trigger pull gauge options are pathetically few, and all suck balls.
The Lyman, looks cheap and ancient like it's from the 60s/70s.
The Wheeler digital looks a bit more updated, but that big ass hook could only fit when there's huge room between trigger and trgger guard.
Both don't measure reliably.
All junk. No other choices. Sad.
I tried the Lyman digital this week. overpriced inaccurate toy. all the positive review from mostly people that get it for free. heck it can't even add the average reading correctly. no better than a 20 dollar digital gauges. I've tested them all with the exception of wheeler and at the end of the day, you better off guessing what your trigger weight is. wheeler probably as bad.
You’re testing really doesn’t mean anything. You’re not using them for their intended use. This test proves nothing. Also, how do you know your weights are correct? Saying, “oh this one doesn’t do this or that right” literally means nothing.