Tony lends people money and is unreasonable and destroys their lives . Then he’s upset when Hesh asks for the money on time. What a hypocrite . Hesh is one of the few guys in Tony’s crew that I felt bad for .
I never once felt bad for hesh … all that money he has . With Tony the more he makes the more he spends . And you know hesh told him about the boat . It has absolutely no resale value whatsoever. A million and 2 minus assets . Plus I mean hesh wrote 12 gold records at f note records remember , even uncle Junior tried to tax hesh in first season and hesh re negotiated . “ see you don’t mess with these Desert people “ lol 😂
Yeah, I didn't really get Tony's attitude here, he had always been straight with Hesh. You go back to season one when Junior started taxing Hesh and Tony bailed him out of the situation. This series of scene's didn't work for me... and whatever happened to Renata???
@@KebabMusicLtd it aligns perfectly with how Tony has always been. If you owe him or his friend money he makes sure he gets his way. If he owes you well u can expect to wait on that. And Renata died in her sleep, brain aneurysm
You know Tony has killed others for a lot less money than 200k. Tony didnt "ask" anything he knows he lets Hesh operate his business and told him to get me 200k. The fact Tony actually paid Hesh back any amount of money is astonishingly nice actually.
This was amazing writing. David Chase knew how beloved Tony was by the fans. So he often had to counter balance that by showing you what a piece of shit he really was.
He started to get bitter like that in later episodes, he stopped struggling with his morality and past and just accepted he was a piece of crap that only cared about himself and was a hippocrit
Paying him all the money back when he was at his lowest was the lowest. When Tony felt he was once again superior (he still had his wife) the money didn't matter to Tony. Fake friendships based on Murder and Violence. What a Masterpiece the Sopranos really is. RIP JG - and incredible actor.
I didn't see it that way at all, that's interesting. I sort of thought Tony seeing Hesh's grief made him realise how childish he was being and gave him a wake up call. I guess it is tactless for him to give him the money when the guy's sitting in his pants with tears stained on his cheeks.
I don’t see that at all i saw it as Tony being a man and like Max just commented, it took him seeing his friend going through hard times to realize how childish he was being. He was even acting extremely awkward as a normal person would be when in a similar situation. Tony was just being Tony as usual, which is why it makes his genuine interactions with only a select few seem questionable, but the truth is that those few that he even gives the time of day to other than his family or “assassin servants” are the ones he actually cares about throughout the show. Even the annoying neighbor he enjoys trolling. That’s his way of saying he likes you for a guy like him. Hesh more than likely knows this by now, but is too depressed to even think about Tony or his 200K! I would even argue that in Tony’s world that was his way of cheering his friend up by “suprising” him with the money he most likely wasn’t going to give him. At that point they both knew their friendship would never be the same.
@@portugal5698 interesting point. But for me the fact that Tony had the capability to kill Christopher wel hesh meant nothing to him. And cmon what a moment to decide to give him the money back? But look the reason this show is the best show ever written (in my opinion) is because there are millions of fan theories. I think it strikes a chord with all fans - old and new. Great writing and incredible casting.
This whole show is so brilliant. Across the entire series, it depicts the heartbreaking emptiness of a life based on deception and superficial consumerism. Hesh is so worried about having loaned the money to a sociopath that he connects the money to mortality itself (fearing that death might become the end result). Then the show hits you with the cruel ironic twist of death happening outside the circumstances of the loan with the way it hits an innocent victim. Then in the end he gets the full amount paid back in full, and the money (for the first time in the episode) is utterly superfluous and meaningless because he’s truly lost something actually meaningful in his wife. That lost shot is so haunting: he’s left with the now despicable sight of the bag of money and empty condolences of his phony friend.
Aaron Lauretani Tony wanted to deny him the satisfaction of getting his money back and found the perfect moment to do it - as revenge for feeling like hesh was being a stickler when they had so much history.
throughout the whole series Tony has absolute respect for Hesh. He never came close to a jewish slur/ impersonation.. even when breaking Balls.. The way he says YA GOTTA HAVE IT.. and after that hes throwing terms like Shylock around..its crazy to see him just turn his love and respect for a man off.. like a light switch. Tony Heartless for real.
@popasmuerf absolutely!!! Tony is really made at himself, but clearly taking it out on Hesh. He relives those bad bets over and over, ever time he makes a payment. Thus it becomes Hesh's fault
@@unclemayhem6696 And this is what they mean when they say 'He wasn't built for this life'. Because being built for being a gangster basically boils down to having no heart. And the more heart you have, the more you suffer.
"Pissy attitude?" You have to be reminded about a $200K debt, then Hesh endure insult after cheeky insult, then you show up to the man's house without the full payment, and Tony refuses his offer for a drink. And Hesh is the one with the "pissy attitude? "
Tony coming by to drop him the bag, now that she's gone. It's hard not to think that Tony acted like he was doing him a solid by giving him the full take right then and there.. instead, it's exactly what's owed. Nothing more. No boost, nothing. And this is literally one of his best, and only actual friends. It boils down to just being another show, of just how far Tony had fallen in the end.
@jonathanbirch2022ur thinking too deep. It was more so “Aw shit hesh’s wife just died and I owe him money I need to pay him back or else my whole crew will hate me and never trust me” either way Tony made the last weeks hesh had with his wife miserable and a waste by causing hesh to always be worried about his money and getting wacked instead of enjoying time with her
@jonathanbirch2022 ur calln me kid but u got way too much energy for a grown man and ur bouncing off the walls about a Tv show. Stop drinking kool aid after 9pm. I don’t even wanna go back and forth with u dude. I feel like u don’t get much human interaction
When he starts being a total dick to Carmella over the Jets that was one of his lowest lows in the series. Tony was just as much of a junkie as Chris, he just wasnt addicted to heroin.
Considering how Tony acted when someone owed him money vs him borrowing, really shows his character. The part where he asks him about the change is the cherry on top.
2:03 is just so brilliant. Tony’s reaction after Hesh subtly takes control of the situation by making a Jewish joke that gets more laughs than his “joke” did.
Around the 55 sec mark , what's up with Hesh's left ankle and foot ?? It may be nothing more than Shadows but I'm not sure what I'm looking at at all? Somebody go back and look at it and maybe I'm not seeing things after all? LOL
@@oleschoolotismiller1173 Vigorish... the weekly interest due on an informal loan, one that has no documentation, just the understanding of the two parties involved. Informal, yes, but in normal cases deadly for the borrower if not paid exactly on schedule as agreed to. Tony could have borrowed from another rich Italian mobster like Johnny Sack, but then his financial distress would have been known to New York... not something he'd want advertised. He could have borrowed from Sil, perhaps, but then he'd have to pay Sil back on time and Tony wouldn't have wanted to do that. So he leaned on Hesh, the vulnerable non-Italian. Hesh was lucky to escape this entanglement with Tony with his life and money intact and he knew it.
In fact that exact same crisis is the basis of The Merchant of Venice by Shakespeare, which is the play that introduced the money-lender Shylock. The Jews of Venice had long been the financial backbone of the spending of the nobility, but when one noble got in trouble he turned to the courts and prosecuted Shylock for usury, which is the lending of money for interest. Anyway Duke Orsino turned on Shylock the way Tony turned on Hesh. Don't go thinking the writers of this show are not well-versed in the greats.
@@ps-yk8su Throughout the show he's charismatic, has a sense of humour and human struggles that one can identify and sympathize with, which makes him likeable.
Whenever my landlord comes to get rent I always say “he’s here for the rent the rent!”. He didn’t realize until about a month and goes “are you calling me hesh from the sopranos?” We had a good laugh
It was a bit passive aggressive, the second time Tony shows up at Hesh's house unannounced and forces another point and a half on him, with Bobby standing there, seems like he's actually fucking with him
Well, nice visual forshadowing of Tony and Carlo having a falling out. Like they actually had. "Maybe you should start sucking cuck instead of living in TV land, because Vito made three times what you are making on constructions!" Right in front of Bobby.
I have NEVER and I mean NEVER loaned a single penny to a friend or family member or child, it ends too poorly. Now, I have GIVEN plenty of money to family, friends and my kids, but I NEVER expect it back.
He was arguably a different Tony Soprano at this point. Time & circumstance kinda thing. Tony in the earlier seasons was different there's been alot of character development and events that have took place. "Not for nothing" ImaPaperbackWriter just saying.
I absolutely hated the way Tony was so flippant with his debt to Hesh. Money loaned between friends never ends well. I wish Hesh had a more prevalent role.
The Hesh Tony story arc highlights perfectly the tight rope these guys walk everyday, something as simple and innocuous as reminding Tony about a loan destroys their entire relationship, that single lapse of judgment on Hesh's part destroyed an entire lifetime of friendship, it also really goes to show no matter how friendly and loyal Tony seemed to Hesh it was never a true friendship, they were associates, I think Hesh forgot this and ended up making a big mistake that in the end could of cost him his life.
But what's he supposed to do just write off 200k? Hesh thought they had a strong relationship which in the end proved to be right as he did get his money back. I think the fact that Hesh gave him 200k shows the bond, even if you are a multi millionaire 200k is still a huge amount of money. Tony was the one acting like a dickhead, I don't think Hesh expected him to be so reluctant to pay but he had two choices, either address the debt or be a bitch and say nothing.
Hesh did everything right, because rest assured if he *had* said nothing Tony would've used that as a free pass not to pay him back. Someone in Hesh's position can't account for how unhinged and unreliable Tony has become, the best option would've been either A: Saying he didn't have extra capital to move around to give Tony the loan in the first place.. or B: Talked Tony down to a much smaller loan that he would've had no excuse to pay back on time, or worst case scenario he didn't, and Hesh wouldn't be out much cash from the loan.
@@winstoncannady4224 Her death is a bit of a red herring, I think everyone's initial assumption is "TONY DID IT" but honestly I don't think he did. For one Tony's crew isn't exactly known for their finesse or subtlety when it comes to taking someone out, Tony discreetly slipping Hesh's wife poison seems far less likely than having one of his goons handle it like he always does. That and we can only assume that her death caused Tony to temporarily have some sympathy for the man and pay him back, whether or not the full remainder of that balance was actually in the bag is up for debate. lol
Ironic considering that Tony advises Artie about getting money back from the Armagnac French dude " They miss a payment , they start acting like they're doing you a favour if they give you anything " and him making Hesh feel bad for wanting the 200k back.
If this was a conversation on the show, they should add a character played by Johnny Roastbeef. All he would do is eat in every scene. Tony Soprano: You mean hypocrisy, right? Johnny Roastbeef: *burp* Tony Soprano: Are you gonna so this every time? Johnny Roastbeef: What, I’m eatin’ ovah here, ‘fuck you want from me?
One thing this show has taught me is how people just come and go, no matter how close you are. One way or another, it will end. Look at all the friends and family Tony lost. I feel as though that caused his depression to worsen in later seasons.
In the end you're left to die alone in your own arms. And don't expect happiness cause you won't get it. It's all a big nothing. What makes you so special?
Hmm... a little pessimistic. Happiness, (at least more happiness in your life then sadness. No ones happy all the time) even fulfillment is very possible in life. What you can’t expect is answers or for your existential dread to be eased or to not die or for things to make sense, etc. Shit like that. Unless you are capable of bullshitting yourself and sedating your existential dread with fake religious bullshit. And in this day and age it’s fewer and fewer people who are capable of that level of self deception. I’m conclusion, yes you will die alone but you can be happy before you do...
Absolutely. TV shows teach you the most important lessons in life. For instance, if you get cancer you should not start a meth lab, even if you are a chemist. And, more pertinently, if you are in a criminal organisation, and your boss asks to borrow 200 thousand dollars, you should not do it, if your boss is something of a friend to you.
His friendship with Hesh didn’t end over the money. It ended because Tony just walked away with no comfort or compassion for a man who was heartbroken and just needed someone to at least sit with him... and because at that point Hesh feared and distrusted him so much...
No. It ended because Tony saw Hesh sort of like a father figure. He came and asked him for advice and used him as a therapist. But then he realized Hesh did not give a crap about him or his problems. And wanted his money back. That changes Tony's whole perspective on Hesh. And it hurt him too.
@@adambreezy251i noticed that the one sit down they had hesh wasn’t even paying attention to what tony was saying and was literally cutting him off about an entirely different topic lol
That’s how I took the whole thing I don’t think tony cared about the money I think Tony’s feelings was hurt when hesh brought it up at the moment he did I think tony realized thats all he was to him
they're so good at character development in this show. they can make you love Tony in some episodes and hate him in others. the best show of all time imo.
@@adamgoldsteintv idk about vito being "human garbage," he was not a good guy same as any of the mobsters and would rather die trying to be in the mob despite being outed than live a mundane working life with Johnny Cakes, but he was always nice to adriana and didn't cause many problems
I respect the Jews. The best of them. I respect the majority of black people too. Most Italians and Irish and English and Albanians and Russians can go fk themselves. Not all but fk me. Yeh you seen my name. Suck it. I mean it. I seen it. Look how a man treats his dog. Their mothers. Work from there. I mean really look.
The scene where Hesh shows up at Satriale’s and Tony starts giving him shit about the loan without Hesh even mentioning it was absolutely ridiculous. Tony was a complete POS by this point.
I read that entirely differently. Repaying Hesh was the only gesture Tony thought of, I thought it was a good thing , rather than an insut ...and a part of his making condolences.
@davidgzesh8952 maybe he intended that way in his sociopathic mind, but in real world that was a spit in the face. He merely did what he should have done long time ago.
@@davidgzesh8952 Yep, everything came down to money for Tony. He couldn't even sit down and just be there for him, like you said it was the only gesture Tony Soprano could think of and then he just walks out the door.
@@davidgzesh8952 yeah it's not much of a "condolence" to give someone what you owe them, that's bare minimum and Tony had been holding out on Hesh and playing shitty games for months
They were never close is the point I took away. You're just being given more insight where tony isn't present in the later episodes. For example nothing is really different except when the phone hangs up here we stay and hear his thoughts.
K1llerK1ll I disagree. I think Tony genuinely looked at Hesh as a friend in the early seasons. Especially when he didn’t have a therapist Tony would always go to Hesh to talk about his problems.
@@depressedkermit5337 Needing and trusting someone and being a friend are different things. Friendship is a two-way relation. Tony cheated on his wife, manipulated his uncle, lashed out on his kids, killed a bunch of friends he cared for like Big Pussy. People develop ability to do things. For Tony, betrayal, manipulation, dissasociation and murder were something he could easily switch on.
@@NikolaAvramov Maybe that's your definition of friendship. They were definitely friend throughout the show but Tony no longer have the same affection for him later, that simple. And he wanted Hesh to forget the debt since he helped him with all his problem, his turn asking.
this mini saga of the 200k is very fascinating and relatable. i can't tell you how many times i have loaned close friends, or family money and then watched things go from normal to weird to resentful, even in cases where the other person never ducked me, or acted in bad faith. it just seemed like we both started to feel like money was more important to the other person, or that they were ungrateful, and maybe there's some layer of truth to that. the longer the situation is dragged out with time and payment installments, the longer the resentment and resulting tension continues to simmer. the death of hesh's wife put all those hard feelings on ice and immediately re-oriented both tony and hesh's perspectives as friends, and of themselves. it's very intriguing how the death of a loved one, and the empathy felt towards a grieving friend, can result in an abrupt truce, and dismissal of grievances.
Human nature. You bite the hand that feeds you. If you lend a friend or family member money, do so with the expectation that you will never get it back
That's why, in the extremely unlikely event, you win big in the lottery...you keep your mouth shut and let people know nothing. When you have money, people have a weird sense of entitlement to it and it's not just friends or family either...charities, organizations etc. Weird.
his speech and accent definitely evolved over the course of the series. Very early on as skinny Tony he had a slight lisp and sounded less like a Guido.
Haha true . Don’t know what the other fans are getting all riled up about ?! All Tony did was borrow money from him , make jokes about his bald head , offer him a sandwich and beer at the bing , and then invited him to a boat show …in the end he payed hesh back . I mean geez he even bought hesh the cleaver dvd
Tony ignored advice from both his dad and Hesh. From Johnny Soprano, “Never gamble, Anthony” after Tony witnessed Johnny and Junior take a clever to Mr. Satrialle’s hand for an outstanding gambling debt. From Hesh, “Don’t get involved and do business with Jews”, when Tony was approached to help his Jewish neighbor with his “son in law problem” and the motel.
W.B. Jones : What's interesting in the way tony treats gamblers: "degenerate fuckcing gambler with a badge" - about Mckezian (did I spell it right?), that sporting goods store owner guy, with the way he went after his shop, the "degenerate gambler" form the Pilot which he hit with Chrissy's Lexus.... About Satriale, Johnny-boy says "the man was a gabler" - So T prolly got that... "aversion" to gamblers from his dad? And Ironicaly ended up gambling himself? And doing peoyte (ie drugs), something which he killed Chris over?!
This made me not want to lend people money again and to avoid those who ask me. Got fed up with people acting like they were doing me a favour by paying me back MY MONEY.
This was the situation always stuck out to me as why Tony was an awful person. This and when he intentionally set Janice off at Sunday dinner by talking about Harpo. The killing and crime was just what I expected but it’s amazing how insecurity and pettiness ruled his actions. Amazing how different I viewed Tony my second time through.
He knew Tony would be unwilling to lose face by not paying. He was bringing it up to remind Tony of the position he was in and keep him from going down a road without thinking about it. By saying, "Hey, you don't have to pay the guy," he was covering his ass by pretending to side with Tony while making sure the Hess thing didn't get out of hand. Classic middle child maneuver.
@@KindredPlagiarist I don’t think Bobby was thinking about it that deeply re: Tony needing to pay for appearances I think he was trying to curry favor but mainly was serious that one of the benefits of being a dangerous mob boss is getting to do what you please with other ppl, such as telling hesh to forget the loan and go f himself. Tony is from Lannister cloth and believes in always paying his debts.
This is a very rich vignette. Hesh (like many successful businessmenr) is consistent, truthful and honest. Tony is emotional, mercurial and ridden with a toxic mix of guilt and megalomania.
Sun Tazoo, the chinese prince Mackyabelly, said "when the truth is on your side, push truth. When the truth is against you, ignore it." It's easy for Hesh to be honest when Tony honestly owes him money
“What’s he gonna do about it if you don’t pay?” - I was very shocked by Bobby saying that, I always thought of him as one of the most classiest honorable mobster out of the bunch..but I guess in the end a mobster is a mobster
It was only Johnny boy being hesh’s friend that saves his life in the end as afraid as he was of his mother he always knew his father was a real varsity athlete 😂 but it does show Tony’s downfall in s1 he’s disgusted that junior once to tax him for operating under the the mobs protection in the fact his father respected hesh but was more than willing at one point to take $200,000 of the man because he couldn’t win at a horse race maybe someone should have suggest he put heshe’s money on pie o my and I bet he would have had another panic attack, by this point in the show Tony was a complete failure and he knew it if junior hadn’t got dementia he would have been have actually been a better boss but at this point Chris should have whacked Tony and took over would have been a better storyline especially because Chris would have been better at fighting New York I quite liked Phil either way he was gone but chrissy would not have let a weasel like butchy outsmart him as much as I love this show more than anything else that’s what I wanted to see more than anything was Chris take control over everything
We never see Hesh again. Something tells me a little later on after Tony was whacked that Hesh was contacted by Carmine Jr instructing him now to kick-up straight to him.
A great episode, but it should be watched in it's entirety for its message(s) to really sink in. The last scene with Tony bringing the money is really powerful
Whenever people go on and on about, Game of Thrones, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, The Wire, etc. Even 20+ years later, it's STILL, "The Sopranos" for me. The levels of hypocrisy, betrayal, and deceit of all of the characters...…….....combined with the subtlety and nuance of so many of the scenes. I always say that this series was Shakespearean. A huge part of Tony's business as 'boss of the family' is extorting people AND collecting (one way or the other) exorbitant interest on loans, yet he's all pissy about repaying a loan...…………….for gambling of all things. Great stuff.
@Degree7 It's both and more. The greatest thing about that show is that it was not written by your average tv writers. It was written by actual writers, playwrights, journalists, and people who actually lived the baltimore life. Thus it has a very literary feel to it. And that's what makes it the best tv show ever made. Not only is it entertaining, but it's layered as fuck.
I don't think people will be telling others how great GoT was. I saw the writing on the wall in Season 4. Skipping pivotal plot points because you don't think they're important is totally something D&D would do, and they did do. Let's forget about Tyrion's whore and Tywin's deception! That's the whole fucking reason Tyrion decided to actually kill Tywin is when Tywin told him the truth about the whore he married. GoT will go down as one of the biggest failures in show history. Writing wise. Popularity wise. Good God.
@@pickleadaykeepsthedoctoraway Dude, I was the same way. I remember absolutely despising the show starting with season 5. People laughed at me, called me an insane hater and so on. Then season 8 happened and everyone started saying that they hated it all along. What a bunch of posers. Meanwhile I had to endure 5 years or ridicule for hating '''''''the perfect show'''''''''.
I absolutely hate having to loan out money. I always say 'please don't make me a debt collector, I hate debt collectors' and it's always the same, we fall out and the friendship's ruined. Just do the right thing!
"Yeah, he had a full-proof scheme, alright. It wasn't very scientific but it worked. When he won, he collected. When he lost, he told (Hesh) to go fuck (himself). What was (he) gonna do? Muscle (Tony)? (Tony ) was the muscle." Casino
“They miss a couple payments and then start acting like they’re doing you a favor if they give you anything at all” - Tony to Artie about collecting loaned money, Season 4
Hesh is right, Tony's out of order for speaking to him like that, like he isn't supposed to bring up the fact you owe him almost a quarter ticket. You don't give a man a nudge you'll never see a dime of that money again
The most precarious moment of Hesh's life was sitting there grieving while Tony set the bag of money on the table. It would have been just like Tony to have Hesh look at the money and at that moment deliver to Hesh a 3:00. That he did not shows the change in Tony's attitude once his gambling luck changed back from how bad it had become.
I'm not sure if there was interest on it. even though tony was a degenerate, he would eventually pay it back (the longer the better in this case). And with interest on 200k, that's a hefty amount. So that's actually a very smart move from Hesh. But I'm assuming there was even any interest to began with.
200k loan, and Hesh said done without hesitation. I remember one of my friends asked me for 20 bucks 15 years ago, until this day, I haven’t gotten back to him with an answer yet!
You could try actually BUYING the series on DVD/Blu-ray? That would sort you out for the entire lock down, instead of scouring for pissy little clips? Just a thought.
I dunno, I saw some comedian years ago talking about all the checks he got on a regular basis for some movie he did in his younger days, all the checks for a whopping 25 cents apeice.
Man, I was thinking about the same quote from Tony, but I couldn’t find the clip I saw him say it. Oh yeah, it was the lead up to Furio’s first debt collection. Totally bad ass.
Yes it's true what his father said,but Anthony has money to afford to blow off.Plus his soilders & captains are making money for him. Vito and Ralph were his biggest earners.
When Tony brings back the rest of the money after Hesh looses Renata. That was a breaking point for me. Tony was not only saying, f you, he was also saying, your luck went out and mine came in. Infuriating.
Although I agree with your main point - what a scumbag Tony was for suddenly turning up with the full 200k after Renata's death, not sure I agree with your analysis of it. Tony had the means to pay the money back in full all along, but he dragged it out, paid just the vig, and broke Hesh's balls continually about it, in front of everybody. "I could have paid you back in full at any point, but I chose to drag it out and insult you...but your grief is worth the 200k".
Bazil83, that’s why I strongly feel Tony timed the payment as he did. He could have paid Hesh at any time. He chose that time. He chose to kick him while he was down. It was a huge power play. Hesh knows it. He’s just too beaten down at that point to respond to it. Tony is a predator, and he always has to be showing his muscles. That’s what he did there. In my opinion. :)
@Jonathan Birch I stack my IQ up, against, and over yours any day, ya punk Birch. Also - you are a verra wrong, and a verra verra stupid. **shuts book** Try giving the show another watch.
2:10 always kills me how Tony tries to rub it in with his stereotypical Jewish landlord impression. "THE RENT, THE RENT." Hesh always kept his composure.
This was Tony at his lowest...despite this bullshit towards the end with Hesh, he knew well how much he owed him, not just financially but as a trusted adviser
Hesh is practically the smartest person on the show, he RIGHTLY feared that Tony would whack him rather than pay, the fact that Tony didn't is irrelevant, he's had people whacked for less, and unlike everyone else who actually did get whacked, he feared the correct person who very likely would do it to him properly.
@@AY-qy4jn no he couldn't because Ralph was one of Tony captains if he let Johnny killed one of his guys then he'll have no choice but to go with war with Johnny Sack hence why he was trying to save Ralph to prevent a war
@James T. never - but a true fan of the show knows there's an unusual cut scene where Tony is talking to Carlo (S6b E4 41:51) - we can't hear what they're saying but it takes place just before Renata's death. My theory, Tony was saying "Take out Hesh, any means necessary." Renata got it by accident.
@@WakkereNederlander Before this meeting with Hesh; Tony tells Carlo and crew “Fuck that Honor and Loyalty Shit” Now we see Carlo getting compared to Vito (who everyone hates for being Gay); being called out to suck cock to make more money, by Tony no less.
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This is why I never lend money to anyone. They act like they are making you a favor when paying you back
happens on Judge Judy every day
They always say never lend money unless you're willing to gift it, the tension never goes away otherwise
The stakes are a little different here
If you accept your place in life as a banker or a loanshark it's just another day in the office
That's what Tony says to Artie
Tony lends people money and is unreasonable and destroys their lives . Then he’s upset when Hesh asks for the money on time. What a hypocrite . Hesh is one of the few guys in Tony’s crew that I felt bad for .
Hey Pro, I love the fact you’re always in these Sopranos comment sections.
Shut up I grieved all your cargo and I’m richer then u
Good to see you pro, hope your staying well, keep up the good work
The Rent the rent !
I never once felt bad for hesh … all that money he has . With Tony the more he makes the more he spends . And you know hesh told him about the boat . It has absolutely no resale value whatsoever. A million and 2 minus assets . Plus I mean hesh wrote 12 gold records at f note records remember , even uncle Junior tried to tax hesh in first season and hesh re negotiated . “ see you don’t mess with these Desert people “ lol 😂
Tony had lost it by this point. There was little to like, he was an absolute scumbag to those around him.
Fuckin pillar of morality over here.
As opposed to only being a scumbag to strangers beforehand!
He brought the money at the end what are u complaining about
@Stan Smith I thought it was implied that Tony had something to do with her death?
Richard Elliott he didn’t have anything to do with it
I can't get over how Tony nearly broke Phil's neck for 45k yet gets hurt over Hesh trying to collect 200k.
Hypocrisy, the show is built off it.
@@user-nh6oq8ut2ti think u missed the point..
Tony Soprano being the embodyment of hypocrisy. What a surprise.
Yeah, I didn't really get Tony's attitude here, he had always been straight with Hesh. You go back to season one when Junior started taxing Hesh and Tony bailed him out of the situation. This series of scene's didn't work for me... and whatever happened to Renata???
@@KebabMusicLtd it aligns perfectly with how Tony has always been. If you owe him or his friend money he makes sure he gets his way. If he owes you well u can expect to wait on that. And Renata died in her sleep, brain aneurysm
As Richie Aprile said: "A guy hands you a light envelope...it's just the beginning."
I know, it’s just a stutter step!..
"You think I started this life 10 minutes ago?"
😂 he’s from the old school.
Listen kid, I shouldn't have to explain myself
What, it's just a little coke...
Tony: can you believe this guy, he lends me 200k and he has the balls to remind me to pay him back like he was doing me a favour
Not a way to inspire strength and discipline.
@@Beniamin6665 fuck him and his vig
You know Tony has killed others for a lot less money than 200k. Tony didnt "ask" anything he knows he lets Hesh operate his business and told him to get me 200k. The fact Tony actually paid Hesh back any amount of money is astonishingly nice actually.
Hesh should've got his arms around dis ting.....
@@crunkalac jesus, why do humans give in when anybody shows them a modicum of respect or attention. TONY IS A SCUMBAG! PERIOD
You wanna lose a friend? Lend him money, or borrow from him.
Truest words spoken
Lol
Those aren’t real friends
Same goes for someone you're dating.
John Doe @ A sign in my bar I used to frequent read: “I once had some money, and I once had a friend. Now I have no money, and now I have no friend.
This was amazing writing. David Chase knew how beloved Tony was by the fans. So he often had to counter balance that by showing you what a piece of shit he really was.
Exactly.
So true...just when you started to hope Tony was your neighbor, how cool that would be, Chase reminds you what a cruel, cold man Tony was.
@@pauliepavarowtee9627 allegedly
See u get it
He started to get bitter like that in later episodes, he stopped struggling with his morality and past and just accepted he was a piece of crap that only cared about himself and was a hippocrit
The success of this show lies in the realisation that you begin to hate Tony toward the end.
One thing you can't say is that you haven't been told.
Not really, Tony was always a bad person from the very beginning
Yeah, but a lot of us, like me, overlooked that. Bc we admired him.
@@kurkkamambusu4063
Why did you admire him?
I never hated Tony. Not even until the end.
Tony slowly turns into his mother over the course of the series
Hes a BETA ;)
We all do in time
Well he did give his life for Hesh on a silver platter....
Oh Poor You!
ESPECIALLY evident he says “oh POOR YOU” to Carmela in their argument before separating
"That's why you should never gamble, Anthony." - Johnny Boy Soprano
@Sam Riley everyone except Paulie.
Would have been 8 Bulls championships instead of just 6, wtf? Gambling's for fools
A man honors his debts.
@@roybatty- look at those juices 🤣🤣🤣
@@Timmyk5150 what are you talking about? Didn’t you see him considering the whacking of paulie? If anything paulie turned on him by talking to Sack
Paying him all the money back when he was at his lowest was the lowest. When Tony felt he was once again superior (he still had his wife) the money didn't matter to Tony. Fake friendships based on Murder and Violence. What a Masterpiece the Sopranos really is. RIP JG - and incredible actor.
Perfectly stated.
I didn't see it that way at all, that's interesting. I sort of thought Tony seeing Hesh's grief made him realise how childish he was being and gave him a wake up call. I guess it is tactless for him to give him the money when the guy's sitting in his pants with tears stained on his cheeks.
I don’t see that at all i saw it as Tony being a man and like Max just commented, it took him seeing his friend going through hard times to realize how childish he was being. He was even acting extremely awkward as a normal person would be when in a similar situation. Tony was just being Tony as usual, which is why it makes his genuine interactions with only a select few seem questionable, but the truth is that those few that he even gives the time of day to other than his family or “assassin servants” are the ones he actually cares about throughout the show. Even the annoying neighbor he enjoys trolling. That’s his way of saying he likes you for a guy like him. Hesh more than likely knows this by now, but is too depressed to even think about Tony or his 200K! I would even argue that in Tony’s world that was his way of cheering his friend up by “suprising” him with the money he most likely wasn’t going to give him. At that point they both knew their friendship would never be the same.
@@portugal5698 interesting point. But for me the fact that Tony had the capability to kill Christopher wel hesh meant nothing to him. And cmon what a moment to decide to give him the money back? But look the reason this show is the best show ever written (in my opinion) is because there are millions of fan theories. I think it strikes a chord with all fans - old and new. Great writing and incredible casting.
It doesn’t matter what’s going on in life you still pay when your supposed too .
This whole show is so brilliant. Across the entire series, it depicts the heartbreaking emptiness of a life based on deception and superficial consumerism. Hesh is so worried about having loaned the money to a sociopath that he connects the money to mortality itself (fearing that death might become the end result). Then the show hits you with the cruel ironic twist of death happening outside the circumstances of the loan with the way it hits an innocent victim. Then in the end he gets the full amount paid back in full, and the money (for the first time in the episode) is utterly superfluous and meaningless because he’s truly lost something actually meaningful in his wife. That lost shot is so haunting: he’s left with the now despicable sight of the bag of money and empty condolences of his phony friend.
Aaron Lauretani Man that’s DEEP!
Beautiful analogy Aaron.
few notice details such as this the 10th time through. very well written show a top 3 all time, a shame it's over.
Aaron Lauretani Tony wanted to deny him the satisfaction of getting his money back and found the perfect moment to do it - as revenge for feeling like hesh was being a stickler when they had so much history.
@boganus699 STFU
Is that good?
throughout the whole series Tony has absolute respect for Hesh. He never came close to a jewish slur/ impersonation.. even when breaking Balls.. The way he says YA GOTTA HAVE IT.. and after that hes throwing terms like Shylock around..its crazy to see him just turn his love and respect for a man off.. like a light switch. Tony Heartless for real.
He’s a gangsta, wadayagonnado?🤷🏼♂️
@popasmuerf absolutely!!! Tony is really made at himself, but clearly taking it out on Hesh. He relives those bad bets over and over, ever time he makes a payment. Thus it becomes Hesh's fault
@@unclemayhem6696 And this is what they mean when they say 'He wasn't built for this life'. Because being built for being a gangster basically boils down to having no heart. And the more heart you have, the more you suffer.
With a narcissist when they feel bad they make someone "bad"
Tony was embarrassed being shaken down for his vig in front of the guys.
"Pissy attitude?" You have to be reminded about a $200K debt, then Hesh endure insult after cheeky insult, then you show up to the man's house without the full payment, and Tony refuses his offer for a drink. And Hesh is the one with the "pissy attitude? "
That was well written as a scene to show Tony’s sociopath behavior and how everything is all about him
Another time Anthony.
*pisshy
pisshy*
@@mariozd971 hahaha, nisam ni gledao komentare, majke mi, i vidim isto. hahhahahaha
I like how when Hesh's GF dies,so too does his fear of Tony die, that feeling of having nothing left to lose ,superb writing
and it's no coincidence that's when tony gives the money back. it wasn't fun anymore. he was a total piece of shit at this point of the show.
well said.
He is an old man who lived a good life. He ain't afraid of dying.
@@woddlyoats
Yep, he's screwed people for many decades now and he's figured he has done enough. All things pass
I feel so bad for Hesh at the end. That 200k is meaningless now his wife is gone.
Tony coming by to drop him the bag, now that she's gone. It's hard not to think that Tony acted like he was doing him a solid by giving him the full take right then and there.. instead, it's exactly what's owed. Nothing more. No boost, nothing. And this is literally one of his best, and only actual friends. It boils down to just being another show, of just how far Tony had fallen in the end.
She wasn't his wife, was she?
@@brianw.5230she was bro
@jonathanbirch2022ur thinking too deep. It was more so “Aw shit hesh’s wife just died and I owe him money I need to pay him back or else my whole crew will hate me and never trust me” either way Tony made the last weeks hesh had with his wife miserable and a waste by causing hesh to always be worried about his money and getting wacked instead of enjoying time with her
@jonathanbirch2022 ur calln me kid but u got way too much energy for a grown man and ur bouncing off the walls about a Tv show. Stop drinking kool aid after 9pm. I don’t even wanna go back and forth with u dude. I feel like u don’t get much human interaction
It’s funny in the beginning of the show you can see how much Tony despises “degenerate gamblers” to only ultimately become one.
When he starts being a total dick to Carmella over the Jets that was one of his lowest lows in the series. Tony was just as much of a junkie as Chris, he just wasnt addicted to heroin.
You always become what you hate the most. Maybe thats why we always remind others of our parents :)
@@plod5578 I don't see myself becoming a rightoid fascist anytime soon.
he even resorts to doing hard drugs in the end too. Not as much and as hard as Chrissy.. but still -- Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
His fawhta warned him. Should have listened.
Considering how Tony acted when someone owed him money vs him borrowing, really shows his character. The part where he asks him about the change is the cherry on top.
But wasn't that an example of Tony trying to be charmingly Tony?
@@ottowes you can say that about anything he does. Fact is he acted like a little punk when he was on the other side. Man has got to have a code.
His hypocrisy is perhaps his defining trait.
@@xxczerxx The series might've as well have been called "Tony being a hypocrite 24/7"
Tony was so much like his father and mother. Despicable.
Asks Hesh, who once warned him about the resale value of watercraft, to attend a *boat* show... The writing really was next level with this show.
So he was really gonna wack him? I don't think so
Hilarious that Tony actually wanted Hesh to join them
@kingken289 I found that amusing as well.
No tony said in the car when Bobby suggested it and what not pay my debts he was never going to not pay hesh
2:03 is just so brilliant. Tony’s reaction after Hesh subtly takes control of the situation by making a Jewish joke that gets more laughs than his “joke” did.
Levels to the game.
Then he throws his sandwich out of disgust lol he really was a big ass baby
Around the 55 sec mark , what's up with Hesh's left ankle and foot ?? It may be nothing more than Shadows but I'm not sure what I'm looking at at all? Somebody go back and look at it and maybe I'm not seeing things after all? LOL
At the "boys' lunch table" too.
the rent, THE RENT ☝
"Dont be shy shylock!"
Tony has collected juice loans for years, now when he is the one paying the vig, now its a crime of the century.
Why not ! He says
One question what does VIG stand for?
@@oleschoolotismiller1173 Vigorish... the weekly interest due on an informal loan, one that has no documentation, just the understanding of the two parties involved. Informal, yes, but in normal cases deadly for the borrower if not paid exactly on schedule as agreed to. Tony could have borrowed from another rich Italian mobster like Johnny Sack, but then his financial distress would have been known to New York... not something he'd want advertised. He could have borrowed from Sil, perhaps, but then he'd have to pay Sil back on time and Tony wouldn't have wanted to do that. So he leaned on Hesh, the vulnerable non-Italian. Hesh was lucky to escape this entanglement with Tony with his life and money intact and he knew it.
@@farmalmta I'd love to see Tony try to mess with Johnny Sack about paying interest on time.
In fact that exact same crisis is the basis of The Merchant of Venice by Shakespeare, which is the play that introduced the money-lender Shylock. The Jews of Venice had long been the financial backbone of the spending of the nobility, but when one noble got in trouble he turned to the courts and prosecuted Shylock for usury, which is the lending of money for interest.
Anyway Duke Orsino turned on Shylock the way Tony turned on Hesh. Don't go thinking the writers of this show are not well-versed in the greats.
It’s amazing how you can love Tony one second and despise him the next. Amazing show and an even better actor.
In what episode do you love him?
@@ps-yk8su Throughout the show he's charismatic, has a sense of humour and human struggles that one can identify and sympathize with, which makes him likeable.
Good actor. Terrible show.
Yeah. This show is kinda overrated
@@whoknows4379 Incredible actor. Incredible show.
Whenever my landlord comes to get rent I always say “he’s here for the rent the rent!”. He didn’t realize until about a month and goes “are you calling me hesh from the sopranos?” We had a good laugh
Haha
If I was your landlord and you were a douche bag I would’ve said “Fuck You, Pay Me!”
Good one 😂
i just hope you didn't rub two coins together at him like tony LOL
You literally never did that liar 🤥
2:42 hesh is scared shitless for beeing killed off, Tony has no clue and takes it as arrogance. Brilliant twist
I agree.
I think they would have killed him
It was a bit passive aggressive, the second time Tony shows up at Hesh's house unannounced and forces another point and a half on him, with Bobby standing there, seems like he's actually fucking with him
DWYS WYSD with Bobby there? Not a chance
@@confirmhandle eh the following scene shows that they were not planning to kill him
It’s so funny imagining Tony and Bobby getting out of the car to see Hesh leaving Carlo sitting in the back seat like a kid.
Lol Deep down Carlo really was a child. Remember the Fat Dom whacking? "SIL HIT HIM FIRST!"
HE'S DEAD?!
Well, nice visual forshadowing of Tony and Carlo having a falling out. Like they actually had. "Maybe you should start sucking cuck instead of living in TV land, because Vito made three times what you are making on constructions!" Right in front of Bobby.
Lmao. Great call!
58 years old... He's a f*kin kid
A very wise man once told me you don’t loan a friend anything. You give it to them or you don’t.
I have NEVER and I mean NEVER loaned a single penny to a friend or family member or child, it ends too poorly. Now, I have GIVEN plenty of money to family, friends and my kids, but I NEVER expect it back.
That man was wise indeed.
I could have used this advice in words back when I was young. I never put it in such a clear way. But I learned this lesson the hard way.
Same when kids ask parents for a "loan". Almost never going to be repaid.
There's some fortune cookie wisdom!
You know you’re rich when you toss a 3k envelope away like it’s a domino’s coupon.
I really got to hate Tony Soprano in the later episodes. This episode is an example of why.
He just started being who he really was and dropped the facade.
He's a total monster in the final season imo.
And how he started treating Chris.
@@Boobalopbop Yes, very good point.
He was arguably a different Tony Soprano at this point. Time & circumstance kinda thing. Tony in the earlier seasons was different there's been alot of character development and events that have took place. "Not for nothing" ImaPaperbackWriter just saying.
Tony borrows 200K and acts like he is doing Hesh a favor by paying it back. 😸
Degenerate gambler like Michael jordan 1mil lose every last vegas card game
@Del...Exactly! Tony was a piece of shit doing that!
"Kid, you think I started this life 10 minutes ago?"
Yeah, every douchebag does this. Never lend money to anyone.
How long did it take u too realize the obvious?? 😂 no shit Sherlock
I absolutely hated the way Tony was so flippant with his debt to Hesh. Money loaned between friends never ends well.
I wish Hesh had a more prevalent role.
Charles Schwab over here.
Hesh was the man
The Hesh Tony story arc highlights perfectly the tight rope these guys walk everyday, something as simple and innocuous as reminding Tony about a loan destroys their entire relationship, that single lapse of judgment on Hesh's part destroyed an entire lifetime of friendship, it also really goes to show no matter how friendly and loyal Tony seemed to Hesh it was never a true friendship, they were associates, I think Hesh forgot this and ended up making a big mistake that in the end could of cost him his life.
But what's he supposed to do just write off 200k? Hesh thought they had a strong relationship which in the end proved to be right as he did get his money back. I think the fact that Hesh gave him 200k shows the bond, even if you are a multi millionaire 200k is still a huge amount of money. Tony was the one acting like a dickhead, I don't think Hesh expected him to be so reluctant to pay but he had two choices, either address the debt or be a bitch and say nothing.
Hesh did everything right, because rest assured if he *had* said nothing Tony would've used that as a free pass not to pay him back.
Someone in Hesh's position can't account for how unhinged and unreliable Tony has become, the best option would've been either A: Saying he didn't have extra capital to move around to give Tony the loan in the first place.. or B: Talked Tony down to a much smaller loan that he would've had no excuse to pay back on time, or worst case scenario he didn't, and Hesh wouldn't be out much cash from the loan.
@@jakelee5096 was Renata's death coincidence? Or are we to assume Tony had something to do with it?
@@winstoncannady4224 Her death is a bit of a red herring, I think everyone's initial assumption is "TONY DID IT" but honestly I don't think he did.
For one Tony's crew isn't exactly known for their finesse or subtlety when it comes to taking someone out, Tony discreetly slipping Hesh's wife poison seems far less likely than having one of his goons handle it like he always does.
That and we can only assume that her death caused Tony to temporarily have some sympathy for the man and pay him back, whether or not the full remainder of that balance was actually in the bag is up for debate. lol
@@jakelee5096 I saw it as a way to stick it to Hesh. You were badgering me for your money. Your girl dead tho. Hope the money helps.
It actually makes me kinda smile thinking that Hesh may have very well out lived Tony
Well, the actor who played him is still alive.
@Fat Dom “Very funny Dom”☠️
@@TheWolf-zv7fg time to hit the trail for Mituchin hey?!?!
Hesh died before season 6
@@henrycruz4966 uh, no he didn’t. His wife died.
At this point Tony was a full lunatic
not a lunatic, just paranoid
Was this the final season?
Hobbs Charles yes
🤣😂😂😂😂
He turned into his mother.
Ironic considering that Tony advises Artie about getting money back from the Armagnac French dude " They miss a payment , they start acting like they're doing you a favour if they give you anything " and him making Hesh feel bad for wanting the 200k back.
TedLee85 the show is notorious for its contradictions.
@@australian2 you mean the characters. you realize they did it on purpose, right?
@@australian2 you mean hypocrisy right?
If this was a conversation on the show, they should add a character played by Johnny Roastbeef. All he would do is eat in every scene. Tony Soprano: You mean hypocrisy, right? Johnny Roastbeef: *burp* Tony Soprano: Are you gonna so this every time? Johnny Roastbeef: What, I’m eatin’ ovah here, ‘fuck you want from me?
@@THEPIELORD42 not even hypocrisy, tony told artie what he''d do in the situation without involving himself.
When a boss asks you to borrow money it’s a no win situation. Best to just consider it a loss and never bring it up again.
Tony: i need a bridge loan, 200K
Hesh: you're breaking up.shhshshshhshhsshh
That's what he should have done - pulled a Pee Wee.
MADE ME LAUGH........... HESH HAD THE CASH. HE HAD TO LOAN IT. CANT SAY NO. HESH WAS THE SMARTEST GANGSTER ON THE SHOW
200k leads to bad reception 🤣🤣🤣
Telephone tough guy.
One thing this show has taught me is how people just come and go, no matter how close you are. One way or another, it will end. Look at all the friends and family Tony lost. I feel as though that caused his depression to worsen in later seasons.
“ you were my fathers friend hesh , my friend …”
In the end you're left to die alone in your own arms. And don't expect happiness cause you won't get it. It's all a big nothing. What makes you so special?
Hmm... a little pessimistic. Happiness, (at least more happiness in your life then sadness. No ones happy all the time) even fulfillment is very possible in life. What you can’t expect is answers or for your existential dread to be eased or to not die or for things to make sense, etc. Shit like that. Unless you are capable of bullshitting yourself and sedating your existential dread with fake religious bullshit. And in this day and age it’s fewer and fewer people who are capable of that level of self deception. I’m conclusion, yes you will die alone but you can be happy before you do...
Yeah because the life of a sociopathic serial killer mob boss is in anyway representative of normal peoples...ffs
Absolutely. TV shows teach you the most important lessons in life. For instance, if you get cancer you should not start a meth lab, even if you are a chemist. And, more pertinently, if you are in a criminal organisation, and your boss asks to borrow 200 thousand dollars, you should not do it, if your boss is something of a friend to you.
His friendship with Hesh didn’t end over the money. It ended because Tony just walked away with no comfort or compassion for a man who was heartbroken and just needed someone to at least sit with him... and because at that point Hesh feared and distrusted him so much...
No. It ended because Tony saw Hesh sort of like a father figure. He came and asked him for advice and used him as a therapist. But then he realized Hesh did not give a crap about him or his problems. And wanted his money back. That changes Tony's whole perspective on Hesh. And it hurt him too.
@@adambreezy251 Good point. I like your name too.
@@adambreezy251i noticed that the one sit down they had hesh wasn’t even paying attention to what tony was saying and was literally cutting him off about an entirely different topic lol
That’s how I took the whole thing I don’t think tony cared about the money I think Tony’s feelings was hurt when hesh brought it up at the moment he did I think tony realized thats all he was to him
@@adambreezy251 Are you really blaming Hesh for Tony being a sociopathic murderer and assaulted? 🤣😂
Way he says “give him his fuckin vig” in the car cracks me up
they're so good at character development in this show. they can make you love Tony in some episodes and hate him in others. the best show of all time imo.
They turned Tony into a monster at the end on purpose.
@@bossshxtonly lol nah
When there's no Vito or Ralphie around you need to borrow money. Paulie's grass cutting not bringing it In 🤣🤣
Very true. Vito and Ralph were human garbage but best earners in the show. The bottom line speaks loudest. I'm earning my ass off for you.
Good insight.
Ya and all Carlo did was watch tvland and not suck cock , while Vito brought in 3x from construction
Lol 😂
@@adamgoldsteintv idk about vito being "human garbage," he was not a good guy same as any of the mobsters and would rather die trying to be in the mob despite being outed than live a mundane working life with Johnny Cakes, but he was always nice to adriana and didn't cause many problems
Hesh's reaction to his partner passing was heartbreaking
Yeah too intense. I even skipped it on this clip.
He loved her
She fine too.
@@sosacup06 it wasn't mentioned.. she just died in her sleep..
I respect the Jews. The best of them. I respect the majority of black people too. Most Italians and Irish and English and Albanians and Russians can go fk themselves. Not all but fk me. Yeh you seen my name. Suck it. I mean it. I seen it. Look how a man treats his dog. Their mothers. Work from there. I mean really look.
The scene where Hesh shows up at Satriale’s and Tony starts giving him shit about the loan without Hesh even mentioning it was absolutely ridiculous. Tony was a complete POS by this point.
Yea but I think tony knew the only reason he would be there still a ass hole move by tony
Yes
The final insult was showing hesh he could have repaid it in full all along.
I read that entirely differently. Repaying Hesh was the only gesture Tony thought of, I thought it was a good thing , rather than an insut ...and a part of his making condolences.
@davidgzesh8952 maybe he intended that way in his sociopathic mind, but in real world that was a spit in the face. He merely did what he should have done long time ago.
They both was petty over the situation
@@davidgzesh8952 Yep, everything came down to money for Tony. He couldn't even sit down and just be there for him, like you said it was the only gesture Tony Soprano could think of and then he just walks out the door.
@@davidgzesh8952 yeah it's not much of a "condolence" to give someone what you owe them, that's bare minimum and Tony had been holding out on Hesh and playing shitty games for months
It’s sad how close Tony and Hesh were in season 1 and now this. Never loan your friends money.
They were never close is the point I took away. You're just being given more insight where tony isn't present in the later episodes. For example nothing is really different except when the phone hangs up here we stay and hear his thoughts.
K1llerK1ll I disagree. I think Tony genuinely looked at Hesh as a friend in the early seasons. Especially when he didn’t have a therapist Tony would always go to Hesh to talk about his problems.
@@depressedkermit5337 Needing and trusting someone and being a friend are different things.
Friendship is a two-way relation.
Tony cheated on his wife, manipulated his uncle, lashed out on his kids, killed a bunch of friends he cared for like Big Pussy.
People develop ability to do things. For Tony, betrayal, manipulation, dissasociation and murder were something he could easily switch on.
@@NikolaAvramov Maybe that's your definition of friendship. They were definitely friend throughout the show but Tony no longer have the same affection for him later, that simple. And he wanted Hesh to forget the debt since he helped him with all his problem, his turn asking.
@@depressedkermit5337 yes he would use hesh to vent too. We later learn hesh never liked him and Tony only liked to vent at him mostly.
Tony rubbing the shekels together hahahaha, i did think he treated Hesh like shit though later on, Hesh was good guy, old school.
Very allegorical
@@countof3everybodyOD The sacred and the propane!
this mini saga of the 200k is very fascinating and relatable. i can't tell you how many times i have loaned close friends, or family money and then watched things go from normal to weird to resentful, even in cases where the other person never ducked me, or acted in bad faith. it just seemed like we both started to feel like money was more important to the other person, or that they were ungrateful, and maybe there's some layer of truth to that. the longer the situation is dragged out with time and payment installments, the longer the resentment and resulting tension continues to simmer. the death of hesh's wife put all those hard feelings on ice and immediately re-oriented both tony and hesh's perspectives as friends, and of themselves. it's very intriguing how the death of a loved one, and the empathy felt towards a grieving friend, can result in an abrupt truce, and dismissal of grievances.
Human nature. You bite the hand that feeds you. If you lend a friend or family member money, do so with the expectation that you will never get it back
That's why, in the extremely unlikely event, you win big in the lottery...you keep your mouth shut and let people know nothing. When you have money, people have a weird sense of entitlement to it and it's not just friends or family either...charities, organizations etc. Weird.
Did you she that pishy attitude?
Not to mention give em his fuckin vig in pershon!
NOT TO MENCHIN
his speech and accent definitely evolved over the course of the series. Very early on as skinny Tony he had a slight lisp and sounded less like a Guido.
I died when he said that lol. Also “not to menchin, give em iz fawkin vig in person”
@Mister Guy "Could be abshtrak shhapesh er shumtin..."
Always found it hilarious hesh thought they were going to wack him and tony really just wanted to take him to a boat show lmao
I don’t blame him though
Haha true . Don’t know what the other fans are getting all riled up about ?! All Tony did was borrow money from him , make jokes about his bald head , offer him a sandwich and beer at the bing , and then invited him to a boat show …in the end he payed hesh back . I mean geez he even bought hesh the cleaver dvd
@@tucko11 guys in the mob typically killed their own blood over a lot less, it wouldnt be a stretch to think he would get whacked over 200k.
@@tucko11 You're forgetting the racist jokes but alright
Also the fact tony and Bobby were in their whacking outfits (black coats)
You want a sandwich? Nah, I just ate... you know what, I will have a soft drink of choice
You sure you want a diet soda?
@@possiblepilotdeviation5791 Maybe I should have something wit shuga in it?
@@jackiejunior3131 Who was your fadha again?
A dwink
@@possiblepilotdeviation5791 the golfer?
This is so relatable... When friends wanna borrow from you they'll talk all nice..But when it's time to pay up everything changes...
He’s paying Hesh, yet he acts like he’s collecting!
To be fair he's used to collecting
Tony ignored advice from both his dad and Hesh. From Johnny Soprano, “Never gamble, Anthony” after Tony witnessed Johnny and Junior take a clever to Mr. Satrialle’s hand for an outstanding gambling debt. From Hesh, “Don’t get involved and do business with Jews”, when Tony was approached to help his Jewish neighbor with his “son in law problem” and the motel.
Like Furio said, "Bet with your head, not over it. And you have a bee on your cap."
Douglas Wilke Amen!
Ask Ann Landers over here.
W.B. Jones : What's interesting in the way tony treats gamblers: "degenerate fuckcing gambler with a badge" - about Mckezian (did I spell it right?), that sporting goods store owner guy, with the way he went after his shop, the "degenerate gambler" form the Pilot which he hit with Chrissy's Lexus....
About Satriale, Johnny-boy says "the man was a gabler" - So T prolly got that... "aversion" to gamblers from his dad?
And Ironicaly ended up gambling himself? And doing peoyte (ie drugs), something which he killed Chris over?!
DrunkHog excellent point!
The kid was fresh out of Eastern Europe. I said “Borko, I don’t know if it’s talent, charisma, or whatever it is, but kid, you got it”
*SOUTH EUROPE
Stop with the Borko references already, what's the point?
fuck you and your barko fanboy shit
you fucking moron
@@parapoliticos52 *SOUTHEASTERN EUROPE
@@alainportant6412 whos that speakin here? is somebody speakin?
This made me not want to lend people money again and to avoid those who ask me. Got fed up with people acting like they were doing me a favour by paying me back MY MONEY.
This was the situation always stuck out to me as why Tony was an awful person. This and when he intentionally set Janice off at Sunday dinner by talking about Harpo. The killing and crime was just what I expected but it’s amazing how insecurity and pettiness ruled his actions. Amazing how different I viewed Tony my second time through.
Yeah 2nd time watching series you realize Tony is a straight hypocritical POS.
3:20 when Tony reaches in his jacket for the money you can see Hesh wondering if he is reaching for the gun to kill him with. Great acting.
no shit Sherlock
@@Chief_Brody no shit Shylock
@@HolyDruggaLord YES XD
Wow nothing escapes you , doesnt it
Think Tony was doing it on purpose just to fuck with him tbh
Bobby suggesting that tony not pay his debt to Hesh was one of the few times in the show that Bobby was unlikable. Very few times.
Lets have it right, bobby was petrified of tony, he would agree with him on nearly anything
@@michaelkilcourse517 Bobby was anything but petrified of Tony, did u not watch the scene where he beats the shit out of him?
He knew Tony would be unwilling to lose face by not paying. He was bringing it up to remind Tony of the position he was in and keep him from going down a road without thinking about it. By saying, "Hey, you don't have to pay the guy," he was covering his ass by pretending to side with Tony while making sure the Hess thing didn't get out of hand. Classic middle child maneuver.
@@KindredPlagiarist I don’t think Bobby was thinking about it that deeply re: Tony needing to pay for appearances
I think he was trying to curry favor but mainly was serious that one of the benefits of being a dangerous mob boss is getting to do what you please with other ppl, such as telling hesh to forget the loan and go f himself.
Tony is from Lannister cloth and believes in always paying his debts.
He was always unlikable. Can’t stand “nice guy” types.
This is a very rich vignette. Hesh (like many successful businessmenr) is consistent, truthful and honest. Tony is emotional, mercurial and ridden with a toxic mix of guilt and megalomania.
Honest? ask the four black kids that wrote the songs that made Hesh rich if he's honest lol
Hesh, honest, LOL. He was a loan shark and a scam artist.
Sun Tazoo, the chinese prince Mackyabelly, said "when the truth is on your side, push truth. When the truth is against you, ignore it."
It's easy for Hesh to be honest when Tony honestly owes him money
“What’s he gonna do about it if you don’t pay?” - I was very shocked by Bobby saying that, I always thought of him as one of the most classiest honorable mobster out of the bunch..but I guess in the end a mobster is a mobster
By the end of season 6, the Sopranos were nothing more than a glorified crew of asslickers and yes-men
It was a bit inconsistent but being close to the boss was most important esp after he got with power hungry Janice
eshel ahrak they have the worst food too
@eshel ahrak if you tie a coogerand to a fishing line youre gonna land him every time.
@eshel ahrak probably a kruggerand = a type of gold coin en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krugerrand
Johnny Boy was right! “You should never gamble Anthony.” And “A man honors his debts.”
"You just keep your antidotes to local color, like Dynaflows or McGuire Sisters or shit like that."
It was only Johnny boy being hesh’s friend that saves his life in the end as afraid as he was of his mother he always knew his father was a real varsity athlete 😂 but it does show Tony’s downfall in s1 he’s disgusted that junior once to tax him for operating under the the mobs protection in the fact his father respected hesh but was more than willing at one point to take $200,000 of the man because he couldn’t win at a horse race maybe someone should have suggest he put heshe’s money on pie o my and I bet he would have had another panic attack, by this point in the show Tony was a complete failure and he knew it if junior hadn’t got dementia he would have been have actually been a better boss but at this point Chris should have whacked Tony and took over would have been a better storyline especially because Chris would have been better at fighting New York I quite liked Phil either way he was gone but chrissy would not have let a weasel like butchy outsmart him as much as I love this show more than anything else that’s what I wanted to see more than anything was Chris take control over everything
We never see Hesh again. Something tells me a little later on after Tony was whacked that Hesh was contacted by Carmine Jr instructing him now to kick-up straight to him.
Don’t worry: this Torah will muffle the shot!
@@robertbruce8492 Look at that, the bullet only made it to Leviticus!
@@robertbruce8492 Talmud*
@@shriharihudli nice reference! Lorraine was shitting bricks that day
He turned to a 🐀🐁🐀🐁
tony illustrates the only ganster you can trust is a dead one
A great episode, but it should be watched in it's entirety for its message(s) to really sink in. The last scene with Tony bringing the money is really powerful
After-School Special over here.
@@bennylevine387 I'M JUST TELLING YOU HOW YOU'RE BEING PERCEIVED
@@alexsm3882 you just worry about how you’re being fuckin perceived
Whenever people go on and on about, Game of Thrones, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, The Wire, etc. Even 20+ years later, it's STILL, "The Sopranos" for me. The levels of hypocrisy, betrayal, and deceit of all of the characters...…….....combined with the subtlety and nuance of so many of the scenes. I always say that this series was Shakespearean.
A huge part of Tony's business as 'boss of the family' is extorting people AND collecting (one way or the other) exorbitant interest on loans, yet he's all pissy about repaying a loan...…………….for gambling of all things.
Great stuff.
Out of every show you mentioned, I'd say The Wire is actually much more Shakespearean.
@Degree7 It's both and more. The greatest thing about that show is that it was not written by your average tv writers. It was written by actual writers, playwrights, journalists, and people who actually lived the baltimore life. Thus it has a very literary feel to it. And that's what makes it the best tv show ever made. Not only is it entertaining, but it's layered as fuck.
I don't think people will be telling others how great GoT was. I saw the writing on the wall in Season 4. Skipping pivotal plot points because you don't think they're important is totally something D&D would do, and they did do. Let's forget about Tyrion's whore and Tywin's deception! That's the whole fucking reason Tyrion decided to actually kill Tywin is when Tywin told him the truth about the whore he married.
GoT will go down as one of the biggest failures in show history. Writing wise. Popularity wise. Good God.
@@pickleadaykeepsthedoctoraway Dude, I was the same way. I remember absolutely despising the show starting with season 5. People laughed at me, called me an insane hater and so on. Then season 8 happened and everyone started saying that they hated it all along. What a bunch of posers. Meanwhile I had to endure 5 years or ridicule for hating '''''''the perfect show'''''''''.
Alderman Fred C. Davis I love the sopranos, and deadwood, deadwood was amazing
The rent. The rent!
THE RENT!
NO NO NO DA RENT DA RENT. COUNTRY BUMPKIN
AGAIN WITH THE RENT?!
3% right?
That’s from a movie but I can’t remember it. Can anybody help me?
I absolutely hate having to loan out money. I always say 'please don't make me a debt collector, I hate debt collectors' and it's always the same, we fall out and the friendship's ruined. Just do the right thing!
"Yeah, he had a full-proof scheme, alright. It wasn't very scientific but it worked. When he won, he collected. When he lost, he told (Hesh) to go fuck (himself). What was (he) gonna do? Muscle (Tony)? (Tony ) was the muscle."
Casino
I've watched the sopranos over 10 times it never gets old jesus
“They miss a couple payments and then start acting like they’re doing you a favor if they give you anything at all” - Tony to Artie about collecting loaned money, Season 4
Hesh's girlfriend is the only one tony never banged
Probably didn't like her because she was black just a theory
@@Kingkillersstripe632 a Charcoal Briquette!
@@Kingkillersstripe632 nah, he'd fuck anything with a pulse instead of his wife. Renata was never around when Tony was drunk or horny
He’d fucck a catchers mitt...
Hesh is right, Tony's out of order for speaking to him like that, like he isn't supposed to bring up the fact you owe him almost a quarter ticket. You don't give a man a nudge you'll never see a dime of that money again
The most precarious moment of Hesh's life was sitting there grieving while Tony set the bag of money on the table. It would have been just like Tony to have Hesh look at the money and at that moment deliver to Hesh a 3:00. That he did not shows the change in Tony's attitude once his gambling luck changed back from how bad it had become.
A man, honours his debts - John “Johnny Boy” Soprano.
Yeah bot not just any man, only other men. Made men do what they like.
Giovanni Soprano
Such a good job James did acting. You can see moments where Tony's inner monologue is contemplating if he's right or wrong about how he treated Hesh
4:05 . amazing
200 K is not like asking for a $1,000 loan from a friend.
200 K should never be borrowed especially when the guy asking is a degenerate Gambler!
Except this degenerate gambler is the boss of the family
@@Smspodcast_ family? i told you, they're a glorified crew.
He was the biggest shylock in N. Jersey
I'm not sure if there was interest on it. even though tony was a degenerate, he would eventually pay it back (the longer the better in this case). And with interest on 200k, that's a hefty amount. So that's actually a very smart move from Hesh. But I'm assuming there was even any interest to began with.
200k loan, and Hesh said done without hesitation. I remember one of my friends asked me for 20 bucks 15 years ago, until this day, I haven’t gotten back to him with an answer yet!
You did 15 years like a man. That’s saying something these days!
You chep fuck
@Iron Man nobody is talking to you
The fact that you remember landing that money 15 years ago is mind boggling!
@@narekzakaryan Not really. Psychopaths fonly remember of times they were assholes as a point of pride.
Borko, you are saving me during quarantine
Hydroxychloroquine over here.
What are you, a baby? Get a personality transplant...
Enough with the stupid borko references, what's the point?
You could try actually BUYING the series on DVD/Blu-ray? That would sort you out for the entire lock down, instead of scouring for pissy little clips? Just a thought.
@@freddybeer no, these clips either have meaning or no meaning
Never loan a friend money Just give it to him No strings
Hesh probably low key is worth $100 Million or more. he's still getting checks from 1950s records...
Yeah, he co-write a lot of those records with Little Jimmy
@@TheReubenKincaid yeah that doo wacka doo im so blue was based on his personal experience
Steve E. Brown Hesh was breaking the rules as they went along
I dunno, I saw some comedian years ago talking about all the checks he got on a regular basis for some movie he did in his younger days, all the checks for a whopping 25 cents apeice.
@@mr.w.146 Hesh was probably his Manager... lol. The money's with who writes the checks, not who cashes them.
"They miss a payment, then they start acting like they're doing you a favor when they give you anything"
Tony Soprano
Man, I was thinking about the same quote from Tony, but I couldn’t find the clip I saw him say it. Oh yeah, it was the lead up to Furio’s first debt collection. Totally bad ass.
A guy brings you a light envelope its just the beginning
This channel keeps the Sopranos spirit alive. Hard to believe its been over 20 years.
Guess you were 3 years old back then
“Yeah don’t be shy Sherlock” 😂
_"Don't ever gamble Anthony. Let this _*_(Mr. Satriale's thumb removal)_*_ be a lesson to you."_
- "Johnny Boy" Soprano
What? Your father never cut off anyone's pinky?
Yes it's true what his father said,but Anthony has money to afford to blow off.Plus his soilders & captains are making money for him. Vito and Ralph were his biggest earners.
Borkos here for da likes! Da likes! Da likes!
What are you talkin about!
Lol
Enough with the supid borko references, this is about Sopranos..
@@intercommerce Marone! It's part of the Borko experience
I got some spare likes too
When Tony brings back the rest of the money after Hesh looses Renata. That was a breaking point for me. Tony was not only saying, f you, he was also saying, your luck went out and mine came in. Infuriating.
Although I agree with your main point - what a scumbag Tony was for suddenly turning up with the full 200k after Renata's death, not sure I agree with your analysis of it. Tony had the means to pay the money back in full all along, but he dragged it out, paid just the vig, and broke Hesh's balls continually about it, in front of everybody.
"I could have paid you back in full at any point, but I chose to drag it out and insult you...but your grief is worth the 200k".
Bazil83, that’s why I strongly feel Tony timed the payment as he did. He could have paid Hesh at any time. He chose that time. He chose to kick him while he was down. It was a huge power play. Hesh knows it. He’s just too beaten down at that point to respond to it. Tony is a predator, and he always has to be showing his muscles. That’s what he did there. In my opinion. :)
that's not how I see it. He felt bad for Hesh, so he felt bad that he had not paid his debt. So he went over there and squared it up.
@@marks6663 Right? That wasn't a nuanced & layered moment of sociopathy, it was a moment of genuine sympathy.
@Jonathan Birch I stack my IQ up, against, and over yours any day, ya punk Birch.
Also - you are a verra wrong, and a verra verra stupid. **shuts book**
Try giving the show another watch.
Felt so bad for Hesh when wife girl died..that 200K didn’t mean anything at that point even more
Who is watching the Sopranos ? Now that HBO has put it back on.
I never stopped....
1:37 That's a damn good "Ohhh!" right there. Never picked up on it before.
I think Renata just saved Hesh life.
Yeah she did
He was definitely contemplating it.
Despite having binged the whole series a few years ago, I cannot remember how she died. How did she die?
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 aneurysm/stroke or something if i recall
Nah, I don't think the idea ever occurred to Tony
2:10 always kills me how Tony tries to rub it in with his stereotypical Jewish landlord impression. "THE RENT, THE RENT." Hesh always kept his composure.
Hesh wasn’t dumb he knew tony was being a dick but what could he say
This show will be forever historic.
This was Tony at his lowest...despite this bullshit towards the end with Hesh, he knew well how much he owed him, not just financially but as a trusted adviser
Borko, today is my birthday, and I am glad to see a Hesh video today, he was my favorite civilian in the whole show. Thank you
Hesh is practically the smartest person on the show, he RIGHTLY feared that Tony would whack him rather than pay, the fact that Tony didn't is irrelevant, he's had people whacked for less, and unlike everyone else who actually did get whacked, he feared the correct person who very likely would do it to him properly.
To kill a guy over a horse? How fucked up is that?
@@Patrick-sq8ymI always thought the horse thing was an excuse I think he wanted Ralph dead ever since he killed Tracee
@@funnygamertwat8879 ohh I agree i was just quoting what Patsy said about it
@@funnygamertwat8879false. If he truly wanted to kill him he could do it when the Ginny Sack joke happened and Johnny wanted him dead
@@AY-qy4jn no he couldn't because Ralph was one of Tony captains if he let Johnny killed one of his guys then he'll have no choice but to go with war with Johnny Sack hence why he was trying to save Ralph to prevent a war
Your girl Renata, whatever happened there.
Whateva Happened DERE??!!
She was at the precipice of a crossroads in her life, truly a mellifluous situation for everyone.
Come on, we were making headway here...
I'll tell you what FUCKING happened!
She downed a bottle so she wouldn't have to see his wrinkled balls again.
It was Tony's fault Renata died, she accidentally drank the poison meant for Hesh.
but how did she really die though.
@James T. never - but a true fan of the show knows there's an unusual cut scene where Tony is talking to Carlo (S6b E4 41:51) - we can't hear what they're saying but it takes place just before Renata's death. My theory, Tony was saying "Take out Hesh, any means necessary." Renata got it by accident.
I love that Tony borrowing money from Hesh inadvertently caused Carlo to flip.
The writers were great at peppering discord between Carlo and Tony.
The provolone, Vito, Fat Dom, visiting Sil in the hospital, etc.
😐🌽
How?
@@WakkereNederlander
Before this meeting with Hesh; Tony tells Carlo and crew “Fuck that Honor and Loyalty Shit”
Now we see Carlo getting compared to Vito (who everyone hates for being Gay); being called out to suck cock to make more money, by Tony no less.
“Loan him a dime you’ll hear a million speeches” Larry Barese was spot on