Fun fact the Tiger tank used in the movie for this scene was Tiger 131. The famous last fully functional running example of an early production Henchel Panzerkampfwagen VI. Fully restored by The Bovington Tank Museum where it now resides. And comes out for the annual tank parade on the Bovington Tank grounds.
I know a lot of people like to tear this scene apart and even I did after seeing the film the first time, but I still love it. Despite the issues it's still one of the best movie tank battles out there. All the actors nailed the intensity and desperation of the situation, and the fact the film was able to use the real Tiger 131 that was captured in WW2 is insanely cool.
Its amazing, I love the way the turret pops off the sherman, I think the only real way to make some scenes more realistic and still have this column scene would be if they got more shermans in their production but with the amount of shermans they have now and their budget, I think they did a great job
I agree, there is a lot to dislike and like in the scene (and the movie as a whole), but the visuals, atmosphere, acting and props are very good. It's a movie I can re-watch time and again.
@@denisdaly5200There is atmosphere but only skin deep The good guy win because of the plot, the German Tank commander makes mistake after mistake after mistake.
Big US bullshit scene. In reality, the Tiger would have used the distance, definitely not closing in! He would have easily destroyed all 3 Sherman by its superior aiming and penetration values without suffering a scratch. Full stop.
Here's what would have really happened. Tiger tank sees the Easy 8 as the only tank that's a significant threat. Tiger tank shoots Fury in the side destroying the tank and killing or injuring the crew. Brad Pitt is launched out of his commanders hatch like a champagne cork - sparing us having to watch the rest of this inane movie. The End.
@@mattblack118 and then the Tiger proceeds to shoot the last tank. Meanwhile, the M4A1 76w spots the Tiger, loads HVAP shell and score a direct hit. Skirmish over, two Shermans lost for one Tiger.
I couldn't understand why a tiger tank in a protected position would pull out and try to shoot on the move. Any commander would have fired from a stationary position keeping his thickest frontal armorial facing forward. Nothing made sense in that God awful movie.
@@lesmotley6839 yeah, that be like the tiger is a sniper, hiding, and after popping a few people, decided to leave his hiding place and walks right up to his target for a close-in shot.....if it was still hiding, it could still take out the others.
@@1918BARsam That's still unrealistic scenario.. the distances the Tigers usually fought at were 1-2km, the M4A1s shell is gonna lose so much kinetic energy over that distance that it won't be able to penetrate the 100mm frontal armor...
For all those criticizing the tactics used by the Tiger crew in this scene I remember reading Albert Speer many years ago and I remember him mentioning the Germans ramping up tank production in 1944 but then noting at one point that something like thirty panthers were lost almost immediately on deployment in September 1944 due to inexperienced crews. This movie takes place several more months after the above date. Who is to say the Tiger crew here was not simply severely inexperienced?
Vero, i Tigre per l' epoca erano macchine sofisticate, e abbisognavamo di equipaggi addestrati. I Tigre con adeguata copertura aerea e logistica , sarebbero stati invincibili.
100% Accuracy in real warfare is unrealistic. Even modern Main Battle Tanks with far better optics and digital fire support for the gunner will not get it. In WW2 you had to estimate the range to the target with human eyeside alone wich can be tricky especially you are in real danger to be killed immediatly by the opponent if you are to slow. My paternal grandfather was a Panzer Crewmen in the 7th and later the 22th Panzerdivision. War is not a Videogame
@@Stormoak German optics had small triangles , you could measure the range if you know the height of the enemy tank . They scored hits at 1000m with the first shot .
The Tiger was really tough but not all-powerful at first, the Shermans couldn't destroy it, it was almost impossible. But here it is already April 1945 and the Fury is modified with a 76 mm gun that could destroy the Tiger from 250 yards and this whole situation with a blow from behind is just for a tense scene in the movie.
The only Sherman variant that can actually pen a Tiger’s front was the British Sherman with the powerful 17-Pounder gun. Just because it was a 76, but it had a lot more kick behind it since they decided to have a longer barrel so they can give it more propellant to shove that round harder on heavy armored targets like the Tiger.
@@diablo56100 No both the 17 pounder and the 76mm on the M4A3E8 can penetrate the Tigers frontal armor. Even the 75mm can penetrate the tiger frontal armor from about 100m give or take. Maybe you are thinking of the Panther? That thing cant be penetrated by the American 76mm
Nope the only allied tanks that could front to front knock out one was the British Sherman’s with the tungsten ap round and the Pershing 90mm gun . The high velocity gun could have gotten a side hit though they didn’t have to go for the rear
@@rudicentenaro7524 the hellcat and fury have the exact same gun. Difference is hellcats would carry a lot more HVAP rounds that were pretty capable of destroying a tiger from the front at long distances. Since fury takes place on April 45, those Shermans would have some HVAP rounds and could destroy that Tiger easily.
Why did the tiger break cover...maintain the element of suprise. Absolutely no way would a tiger commander charge forward. Totally unrealistic and pure hollywood. Michael Wittman would be in tears at this.
Moreover, the Tiger being unable to face the Fury coming from behind is ridiculous. The Tiger is almost square, and is well known to be able to turn around on the spot like no other tank!
The tank left its shelter because it was fired upon with phosphorus shells. The resulting smoke screen prevented the crew from orienting themselves in the area.
The Tiger knocked out the Shermans alright, even despite the smoke screen. Further, the Tiger was ridiculously rolling back trying to move its gun in the direction of the Fury, while it could well have turned around on its tracks
As good as this film is, this scene is what ruins it for me. There is no way a Sherman tank could get hit twice (side and front) by a Tiger tank without being destroyed, led alone disabled. In reality, that Tiger would've won, despite the fact that he went by his hubris, and exposed himself out in the open without staying put where he initially was.
@chriskey7440 Bruv, I'm more calm than you'll ever be. But when it comes to films, especially WW2, they should always be based on FACT. So if there was a film (based in WW2) where one German soldier holds off the entire US military at Omaha beach, you'd be okay with that???
@LoneWolf-zh1iy if it was entertaining yes, because I know films like this are meant more for entertainment, than reality. But if I watch Schindler's List, then I'd expect more realism, as that movie holds massive significance, compared to Fury.
@chriskey7440 By the sounds of it, you'd happily let the filming industry (Hollywood) shit on reality, by casting facts aside just to peak your amusement???
@LoneWolf-zh1iy for certain films yes. I don't go to Hollywood for facts, I read, I increase my knowledge the old school way I guess. To each their own, but you sure seem the opposite of calm haha.
When they first charged across the field, the three american tanks should have started more far apart from each other. That way, the German tank would take more time to rotate the turret inbetween aiming for the tanks. Also as the tanks would run down the field, the further away the tanks are to the side, it would be harder for the German tank to aim because the velocity of the running tank would be felt as faster than one running directly from the front.
In Michael Wittman book (tiger expert) it is written that when you as a commdaner of a tank see AMVs or tanks on the road you always have to aim the first vehicle than the last to block the others from using the road for escaping and force them to do reverse.
Which book please? He dont wrote any book. He was an SS tank commander. The ns-propaganda makes many myth on his name. Not all kills are documented and verified.
One thing I find funny is that the E8 was much faster the other two Shermans. The Sherman that got its tank commander killed was a 76(W) and it was a early Sherman. So not fast. The next one that took the shot to the hull was M4A3 and it was a late war version. Better engine and armor, but not much, and it was still slow.
So ein Käse, der Tiger wäre nie aus der Deckung gefahren und geschossen hätte er als erstes auf den vorderen Panzer um die anderen zu blockieren und dann auf die andere. Typischer Hollywood Streifen 😂😂😂
Con el primer disparo el 88 y el tigre destruyen al primero y al ultimo sherman de la formacion, luego con el 2do disparo rematan a los demas. Pero esto es hollywood 😂
The 76mm has some capabilities to penetrate the upper front of the Tiger from a kilometer away but i wonder why they decide to go around it to take out the engine.
By 1944-45, veteran U.S. tank commanders knew enough about the reality of their combat environment to deal with German armor and anti-tank guns. I rather doubt a group of Shermans, advancing to contact, would do so in column, unless the terrain required it. They would advance in a 'One up-two back' formation, spread out enough so that the tanks didn't mask each others fire and vision. They would most likely have an element of armored infantry with them[ Half-tracks, in various models, with at least a 81mm mortar carrier in the group], and would move with over-watch and using any cover to flank the enemy position.
@@kieranhurst8543 My Dad's youngest Uncle was a Marine Corps tanker, fought on Saipan and Okinawa. I talked with him about his service and he said the only tank-on-tank action he experienced was on Saipan, it was risky enough against the less capable Japanese armor and anti-tank guns. Yeah, the action is nice and dramatic, but I like historical context as well.
Michael Wittmann, destroyed 27 tanks in a single day, including several Sherman Fireflies, when his tank was conducting reconnaissance near Caen in Normandy.
It would have been much more impressive if they had added an anecdote like damaging the turret drive before getting behind Tiger in this scene. When the M4 was behind the Tiger, the Tiger had at least two shots time :) Or it would have been more realistic if one of the ricocheting bullets bounce had wounded the Tiger's loader or something. Still, it was a very impressive movie. In fact, it would have been very realistic if Tiger broke down for some reason and the Furry team survived because of it.
@@1918BARsamHowever, war production APDS rounds lacked accuracy, and the 50 mm penetrator was less destructive after it had penetrated enemy tank armour than the 76.2 mm APCBC shell. APDS ammunition was rare until the post-war period. While the Sherman Firefly was capable of carrying 77 rounds of ammunition, design features of the tank meant only 23 rounds were easily and readily available when the tank was in action.
The same reason why Russian and Ukrainian tanks are seen alone in the current conflict today. Poor logistics, improper planning or not enough manpower.
If it the tigers commander would have just stayed where he was and hit the easy eight first he would of won but that would killed the main character and there would be no movie
Einer der schlechtesten Panzerfilme aller Zeiten! Was für ein Schrott! Wenn unsere Jungs damals so gekämpft hätten, wären sie nicht mal am polnischen Schlagbaum vorbei gekommen....😂😂😂 ....Was wohl nicht schlecht gewesen wäre....😢
В настоящем бою эти Шерманы были бы уничтожены Тигром как куропатки. Режиссёр видимо понятия не имеет как танки должны атаковать. В этом фильме они атакуют в один ряд, причём рядышком идут. Наводчику даже прицел не надо менять, а передвигать башню только. За две минуты они были бы все уничтожены.
Usually Germans shoot the first tank in the colomn but not when Brad Pitt is the commander of that tank 😂 Fun movie for sure but any discussion about accuracy is a waste of time 😊
Many people find this scene illogical, even idiotic. Everyone is betting on the Tiger to win and wondering why the Shermans won. If this had happened at a training ground, then yes, the Tiger would have won. But they are not at a training ground. So, point by point. 1. The Shermans are moving across the field, visibility is good, the enemy has nowhere to hide. The Americans are not expecting an attack at all. After all, the Germans have long retreated. Therefore, it is not surprising that they missed the ambush of one tank. One tank is very easy to camouflage and difficult to detect. 2. After the last tank in the column was knocked out, the American tankers quickly figured out where the fire was coming from. The cloud of gunpowder gases gave away the enemy's location. Why didn't the Germans knock out the lead tank? And what would that have changed? An ambush of just one tank. In any case, the rest of the tanks would also have deployed into battle formations and accepted the fight. 3. Since the Americans knew nothing about the enemy, they began to retreat into the forest. Seeing that there was only one tank there, they fired phosphorus shells at it, creating a smoke screen. What should they do next? Run? Where to? You can’t outrun a Tiger. Its gun is guaranteed to hit you. Moreover, they think that the Tiger is moving and will certainly be able to pursue them. The Sherman commander did the right thing by giving the order to advance. This was the only way out. While the Tiger is in the smoke, they need to quickly close in on it and knock it out from close range. After all, the Tiger’s armor is very strong. Why should they advance side by side? And how should they advance? If they split up, firstly, they will lose precious time, and secondly, they will expose their sides, increasing their chances of being knocked out. 4. The Tiger commander is no fool either. He could not remain in ambush. The smoke screen was making it difficult to see the enemy, and the acrid smoke from the white phosphorus would have been uncomfortable for the German crew. So he moved forward to get a better view of the enemy tanks. The Tiger emerged from the smoke before the Shermans could get close to it. Why didn't the Tiger stop? Probably because the German commander didn't want to become a target. It's much harder to hit a moving tank. The American tanks didn't stop for the same reason. The Tiger knocked out the two right Shermans to prevent them from going around it from the right. The other two tanks were heading straight for it. It knows for sure that its frontal armor will hold up if something happens. 5. When the last two Shermans remained, they were almost right next to the Tiger. Logically, they began to scatter in different directions to attack the Tiger from the flanks. The Tiger knocked out another tank, and its commander quickly realized what he wanted to do with the last Sherman. He immediately began to back up and turn the turret. Why did he open fire with the machine gun? To kill the Sherman commander or to convince him to hide in the turret. It is more difficult to observe from the turret, and in such a situation you need to keep both eyes open so as not to miss your chance. The Americans, by the way, did the same. Why didn’t the Tiger turn around on its tracks to speed up aiming? Why did it need to do that? The German tank had already managed to aim, fire and hit the side. The shell passed tangentially. The Sherman received minor damage, but did not lose its combat capability. The excitement of the Tiger crew is growing. Now the Sherman is a real threat. The Germans understand what this Sherman is doing and begin to move forward to break the distance. The Germans want to finish off the Sherman as quickly as possible, and fire a second shot. Damn it, it’s too early!!! The shell only grazed the front part. But there is no point in spinning on the tracks anymore. The Germans continue to move forward and turn the turret. They almost aim, but don't have time. The end.
Oh dear oh dear. Silly American movie. Kudos to Bovington for allowing the use of these amazing tanks in the movie though esp 131 the legend. Ok. So, the Yanks refused to use the Firefly Sherman conversion. Stupid boys. One famous incident recorded the destruction of 3 Tigers by one Brit Firefly including killing a highly decorated Tiger vet commander. The English gun on the Firefly was completely capable of penetrating the Tiger forward armour, so the manoeuvres used in the movie were unnecessary. As someone else said, the Tiger would have attacked the Firefly first, destroying it from the side, then would have easily defeated the remaining Shermans. Still, great to see these wonderful tanks in action, total kudos to Bovington Tank Museum.
@@GerhardSchutz naja, er soll unterhalten. Er ist gut gemacht. Realistisch wäre Brat Pitt mindestens 3 mal gestorben, angefangen bei dem Kampf gegen die PAK 🤣🤣🤦♂️
Lucky they will face to Panzer VI Tiger I, But in fact history, The Nazi Germany all Heavy Tank Division change to operate More fire power and heavy armour protect Tanks, Is Panzer VI King Tiger, If there moive put the King Tiger, They not against heavy armour and deadly heavy fire power tank gun.
L'équipage du char allemand a commis une grave erreur en quittant le couvert, il aurait été capable de détruire les chars US sans danger pour lui. Il devait s'agir d'une bande d'incapabl es idiots ! 😂😂😂
So far beyond reality...OMG. .... And of course : Just show the German Maschine, never the guys inside. To make people believe being German is true evil. Btw, German tank crews never ever corresponded inside the tank like shown.....
@@mikesmith-wk7vy what?! The 76mm could definitely pen the front of a Tiger 1. At ~500 meters using standard APC, and at ~1200 meters using tungsten-core HVAP. Fury belongs to a 2nd armored division unit that was historically supplied with HVAP rounds since late 1944.
Realistisch wäre der Firefly der erste Panzer gewesen der zerstört worden wäre. Danach wär der Rest der Kolonne nur noch Übungsschießen für den Tiger. Diese Szene und auch die davor mit der Pak-Stellung sind so unrealistisch.
Fun fact the Tiger tank used in the movie for this scene was Tiger 131. The famous last fully functional running example of an early production Henchel Panzerkampfwagen VI. Fully restored by The Bovington Tank Museum where it now resides. And comes out for the annual tank parade on the Bovington Tank grounds.
I know a lot of people like to tear this scene apart and even I did after seeing the film the first time, but I still love it. Despite the issues it's still one of the best movie tank battles out there. All the actors nailed the intensity and desperation of the situation, and the fact the film was able to use the real Tiger 131 that was captured in WW2 is insanely cool.
They also set up with these Reenactors
Its amazing, I love the way the turret pops off the sherman, I think the only real way to make some scenes more realistic and still have this column scene would be if they got more shermans in their production but with the amount of shermans they have now and their budget, I think they did a great job
I agree, there is a lot to dislike and like in the scene (and the movie as a whole), but the visuals, atmosphere, acting and props are very good. It's a movie I can re-watch time and again.
Honestly with how movies are now, i completely appreciate anything like this movie.
@@denisdaly5200There is atmosphere but only skin deep
The good guy win because of the plot, the German Tank commander makes mistake after mistake after mistake.
Big US bullshit scene. In reality, the Tiger would have used the distance, definitely not closing in! He would have easily destroyed all 3 Sherman by its superior aiming and penetration values without suffering a scratch. Full stop.
1000% correct.some time weapon cannot do all.need good commander.
Coz it's called Hollywood brotha, being realistic is not their way
@@ougentrost Ausserdem hatten die Amis die Order Tiger nur im Verhältnis von 5:1 Anzugreifen,ansonsten wurde luftunterstützung angefordert.
It’s actually important to show that tiger tanks had to be hit from the side or behind. This helps the average viewer see what the US was up against
And he would have taken Brad Pitt tank first, not the last 😂 (basic ambush tactic)
Well, in short, the winner writes the story.
Greetings from Bavaria
Exactly that
That Tiger Tank loader crew is on drugs or something? How long need to load anti tank? 🗿
Probably a beginner crew
They were on that PANZERCHOCOLATE
Here's what would have really happened. Tiger tank sees the Easy 8 as the only tank that's a significant threat. Tiger tank shoots Fury in the side destroying the tank and killing or injuring the crew. Brad Pitt is launched out of his commanders hatch like a champagne cork - sparing us having to watch the rest of this inane movie. The End.
typical convoy tactic, take out the lead vehicle, the take out the rear vehicle, then pick off the rest....
@@mattblack118 and then the Tiger proceeds to shoot the last tank. Meanwhile, the M4A1 76w spots the Tiger, loads HVAP shell and score a direct hit. Skirmish over, two Shermans lost for one Tiger.
I couldn't understand why a tiger tank in a protected position would pull out and try to shoot on the move.
Any commander would have fired from a stationary position keeping his thickest frontal armorial facing forward.
Nothing made sense in that God awful movie.
@@lesmotley6839 yeah, that be like the tiger is a sniper, hiding, and after popping a few people, decided to leave his hiding place and walks right up to his target for a close-in shot.....if it was still hiding, it could still take out the others.
@@1918BARsam That's still unrealistic scenario..
the distances the Tigers usually fought at were 1-2km, the M4A1s shell is gonna lose so much kinetic energy over that distance that it won't be able to penetrate the 100mm frontal armor...
For all those criticizing the tactics used by the Tiger crew in this scene I remember reading Albert Speer many years ago and I remember him mentioning the Germans ramping up tank production in 1944 but then noting at one point that something like thirty panthers were lost almost immediately on deployment in September 1944 due to inexperienced crews.
This movie takes place several more months after the above date. Who is to say the Tiger crew here was not simply severely inexperienced?
Vero, i Tigre per l' epoca erano macchine sofisticate, e abbisognavamo di equipaggi addestrati. I Tigre con adeguata copertura aerea e logistica , sarebbero stati invincibili.
But they sound pretty professional and futuristic.
The Tiger tank would have taken out the three Shermans with three shots.
100% Accuracy in real warfare is unrealistic. Even modern Main Battle Tanks with far better optics and digital fire support for the gunner will not get it. In WW2 you had to estimate the range to the target with human eyeside alone wich can be tricky especially you are in real danger to be killed immediatly by the opponent if you are to slow. My paternal grandfather was a Panzer Crewmen in the 7th and later the 22th Panzerdivision. War is not a Videogame
Did your grandfather talk much about the war?
@@VidWatcher-v4j Ausserdem hätten nie Drei Sherman einen Tiger angegriffen,die Amerikaner hatten die Order nur im Verhältnis 5:1 anzugreifen
@@Stormoak German optics had small triangles , you could measure the range if you know the height of the enemy tank . They scored hits at 1000m with the first shot .
@@Stormoak in this situation is really hard miss them with Tiger... This film is total garbage.
The Tiger was really tough but not all-powerful at first, the Shermans couldn't destroy it, it was almost impossible. But here it is already April 1945 and the Fury is modified with a 76 mm gun that could destroy the Tiger from 250 yards and this whole situation with a blow from behind is just for a tense scene in the movie.
The only Sherman variant that can actually pen a Tiger’s front was the British Sherman with the powerful 17-Pounder gun. Just because it was a 76, but it had a lot more kick behind it since they decided to have a longer barrel so they can give it more propellant to shove that round harder on heavy armored targets like the Tiger.
@@diablo56100 No both the 17 pounder and the 76mm on the M4A3E8 can penetrate the Tigers frontal armor. Even the 75mm can penetrate the tiger frontal armor from about 100m give or take. Maybe you are thinking of the Panther? That thing cant be penetrated by the American 76mm
Nope the only allied tanks that could front to front knock out one was the British Sherman’s with the tungsten ap round and the Pershing 90mm gun . The high velocity gun could have gotten a side hit though they didn’t have to go for the rear
Fury 76 mm cant do nothing vs tiger also....just hellcat maybe can hurt tiger bcs helcatt is a tank destroyer...fury isnt
@@rudicentenaro7524 the hellcat and fury have the exact same gun. Difference is hellcats would carry a lot more HVAP rounds that were pretty capable of destroying a tiger from the front at long distances.
Since fury takes place on April 45, those Shermans would have some HVAP rounds and could destroy that Tiger easily.
Why did the tiger break cover...maintain the element of suprise. Absolutely no way would a tiger commander charge forward. Totally unrealistic and pure hollywood. Michael Wittman would be in tears at this.
Late war; the best of the Wehrmacht was already dead. But this isn't terribly accurate tactically.
It's a fun movie nothing more nothing less.
The biggest inaccuracy is the fact that tanks are without any infantry support both German and American
Moreover, the Tiger being unable to face the Fury coming from behind is ridiculous. The Tiger is almost square, and is well known to be able to turn around on the spot like no other tank!
The tank left its shelter because it was fired upon with phosphorus shells. The resulting smoke screen prevented the crew from orienting themselves in the area.
The Tiger knocked out the Shermans alright, even despite the smoke screen. Further, the Tiger was ridiculously rolling back trying to move its gun in the direction of the Fury, while it could well have turned around on its tracks
If this film came out during 1965, the Tiger would really be a M47 Patton.
Воюй не числом! А умением ! Супер фильм !!! Ярость с Бредом Питом!!! ❤❤❤
Warum schauen die Amis nicht alle aus dem Panzer raus....
😂😂😂
I love Norman's look of horror when he sees two shells bounce right off its armor. You can even see him mouth a little "Fuck..."
As good as this film is, this scene is what ruins it for me. There is no way a Sherman tank could get hit twice (side and front) by a Tiger tank without being destroyed, led alone disabled. In reality, that Tiger would've won, despite the fact that he went by his hubris, and exposed himself out in the open without staying put where he initially was.
It's a fictitious movie, calm down haha
@chriskey7440 Bruv, I'm more calm than you'll ever be. But when it comes to films, especially WW2, they should always be based on FACT.
So if there was a film (based in WW2) where one German soldier holds off the entire US military at Omaha beach, you'd be okay with that???
@LoneWolf-zh1iy if it was entertaining yes, because I know films like this are meant more for entertainment, than reality. But if I watch Schindler's List, then I'd expect more realism, as that movie holds massive significance, compared to Fury.
@chriskey7440 By the sounds of it, you'd happily let the filming industry (Hollywood) shit on reality, by casting facts aside just to peak your amusement???
@LoneWolf-zh1iy for certain films yes. I don't go to Hollywood for facts, I read, I increase my knowledge the old school way I guess. To each their own, but you sure seem the opposite of calm haha.
Frontal assault against a Tiger. That's smart.
An absolutely gripping scene.
It's Hollywood Baby! 😂😆 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪
When they first charged across the field, the three american tanks should have started more far apart from each other. That way, the German tank would take more time to rotate the turret inbetween aiming for the tanks. Also as the tanks would run down the field, the further away the tanks are to the side, it would be harder for the German tank to aim because the velocity of the running tank would be felt as faster than one running directly from the front.
In Michael Wittman book (tiger expert) it is written that when you as a commdaner of a tank see AMVs or tanks on the road you always have to aim the first vehicle than the last to block the others from using the road for escaping and force them to do reverse.
Which book please? He dont wrote any book. He was an SS tank commander. The ns-propaganda makes many myth on his name.
Not all kills are documented and verified.
@ sorry. The book is from Otto Carius I checked it, but I have another book which is about general taxtics with tiger and it says the same.
@@BaumbartDeine Videos sprechen Bände,nach 80 Jahren immer noch frustriert und geldgeil ?
@@sergeantsalty1236
Welche Videos? Und wo spricht da etwas Bände? Und was hat das mit Geld zutun?
One thing I find funny is that the E8 was much faster the other two Shermans. The Sherman that got its tank commander killed was a 76(W) and it was a early Sherman. So not fast. The next one that took the shot to the hull was M4A3 and it was a late war version. Better engine and armor, but not much, and it was still slow.
I didn't know that thanks
So ein Käse, der Tiger wäre nie aus der Deckung gefahren und geschossen hätte er als erstes auf den vorderen Panzer um die anderen zu blockieren und dann auf die andere.
Typischer Hollywood Streifen 😂😂😂
Con el primer disparo el 88 y el tigre destruyen al primero y al ultimo sherman de la formacion, luego con el 2do disparo rematan a los demas. Pero esto es hollywood 😂
It is like watching BMW vs Chevy or Chrysler. Ahahahahahahhaa
The 76mm has some capabilities to penetrate the upper front of the Tiger from a kilometer away but i wonder why they decide to go around it to take out the engine.
By 1944-45, veteran U.S. tank commanders knew enough about the reality of their combat environment to deal with German armor and anti-tank guns. I rather doubt a group of Shermans, advancing to contact, would do so in column, unless the terrain required it. They would advance in a 'One up-two back' formation, spread out enough so that the tanks didn't mask each others fire and vision. They would most likely have an element of armored infantry with them[ Half-tracks, in various models, with at least a 81mm mortar carrier in the group], and would move with over-watch and using any cover to flank the enemy position.
Yeah nobody cares mate, we're for cool movie action
@@kieranhurst8543 My Dad's youngest Uncle was a Marine Corps tanker, fought on Saipan and Okinawa. I talked with him about his service and he said the only tank-on-tank action he experienced was on Saipan, it was risky enough against the less capable Japanese armor and anti-tank guns. Yeah, the action is nice and dramatic, but I like historical context as well.
In reality the german crew would not have charged
Lepuff: “just do it, on the waaaay!”
3:43 Tiger's shell only lost to Furious plot rear armor
Einer der Schlechtesten Filme,nur dazu gedacht die Amerikaner zu Heroisieren.
Allerdings, da muß man nicht einmal rechtsgestrickt oder sonst irgendwie nationalistisch angehaucht sein. American crap!
Nö.
@Baumbart Du hast keine Ahnung,aber davon hast du ne ganze Menge!!!Wenn man keine Ahnung hat,einfach mal die Fresse halten.
Ha ha
@XXD4MAX Du bist auch einer von denen der Keine Ahnung hat und alles glaubt was ihm Hollywood versetzt lol
British Sherman Firefly says _Hey, you chaps. What's all the fuss about ?_
Como siempre los gringos ganan pero estaban muertos de miedo por el tanque alemán
taková krásná pohádka pro pozdvihnuti morálky USA 🤣
Bollox!! Tiger rules lad!
Unrealistisch. Der Tiger hätte die ganzen Sherman vernichtet, bei 1. Fahrzeug angefangen.
german tanks best tanks ever❤
Not really. It gaves many good tank types on this time.
@Baumbart no
@@ktm620lc4
Nope.
@@BaumbartAntifa's Schreibtischdienst ?!
Разведка? А что это?😂
No, no, no…. So many mistakes… Great technical movie, but not Tank- tactial….
Bad movie. Bad tactics... Bullshit. Burnt the DVD in my garden. Fugg it!
A strikingly stupid and illogical scene. Why didn't the tiger hit the first tank with the most powerful cannon? Oh, the movie would have ended.
Moze celowal w pierwszego ale nie trafil
Michael Wittmann, destroyed 27 tanks in a single day, including several Sherman Fireflies, when his tank was conducting reconnaissance near Caen in Normandy.
Lots of myth and propaganda. Not all kills are documented. He dies in his tiger.
Im echten Krieg wären alle vier Panzer zerstört worden wenn sie versucht hätten ihn anzugreifen
Nie ten film oglądasz
Die wären vermutlich schon Schrott bevor sie wüssten wo der Tiger steht
0:01 yeah sure ...driving in your tank on the batllefield with open hatches😅
Hollywood crap
Nella realtà solo i russi combattevano a portelli chiusi, e subivano molte più perdite.
Bro the tank ,fury, is a Sherman firefly because it’s cannon is longer
Fury is an American M4A3E8 with 76mm gun, the Sherman Firefly is British version of Sherman
Noice
one german tank did all of that crazy
Shia Labeouf🔥🔥🔥🔥
In these times no tank could fire on the ride! Every tank must stop in order to shoot.
Otto Carius, famous Tiger commander, said it COULD be done, but that it wasn't necessary to do so.
The Tiger wouldn't have needed to come out into the open, it could have picked those Shermans off from where it was.
Get the treads than get behind it
It would have been much more impressive if they had added an anecdote like damaging the turret drive before getting behind Tiger in this scene. When the M4 was behind the Tiger, the Tiger had at least two shots time :) Or it would have been more realistic if one of the ricocheting bullets bounce had wounded the Tiger's loader or something. Still, it was a very impressive movie. In fact, it would have been very realistic if Tiger broke down for some reason and the Furry team survived because of it.
(M4 Sherman)
(WAR):
(WORLD WAR 2)
(Korean war)
(Vietnam war)
T34 : me too
Танкисты из засады выбивают всегда первого идущего танка, первым делом уничтожают первого танка. Но здесь все по другому.
Realistic outcome:
0:29 - Second Sherman dead
0:35 - Fury loads HVAP round
0:41 - Tiger dead
Realistic outcome.
001: Tiger kills lead tank Fury with first shot trapping other Sherman's on road.
008 - 050: Tiger kills remaining Sherman's.
@@dannowak6468 there'd still be one 76mm armed Sherman. It returns fire and the Tiger is dead
@@1918BARsamHowever, war production
APDS rounds lacked accuracy,
and the 50 mm penetrator was less destructive after it had penetrated enemy tank armour than the 76.2 mm APCBC shell. APDS ammunition was rare until the post-war period. While the Sherman Firefly was capable of carrying 77 rounds of ammunition, design features of the tank meant only 23 rounds were easily and readily available when the tank was in action.
@@jurgschupbach3059 Sherman Firefly?!? APDS?
Those are US units and never used such equipment. The 76mm gun M1 used HVAP rounds, didn't have APDS.
And BTW, why was there a Tiger all by itself without any infantry support?
The same reason why Russian and Ukrainian tanks are seen alone in the current conflict today. Poor logistics, improper planning or not enough manpower.
Lol... Real life have been different but is Hollywood
Bacuffz had a video on this ions ago and it’s German but he dissected the tactics here.
При сьемках использовался настоящий Тигр.
Tiger 131 é uma máquina.
If it the tigers commander would have just stayed where he was and hit the easy eight first he would of won but that would killed the main character and there would be no movie
This is only a film dont forget crews on tigers we're not as experienced as crews earlier in the war
Einer der schlechtesten Panzerfilme aller Zeiten! Was für ein Schrott! Wenn unsere Jungs damals so gekämpft hätten, wären sie nicht mal am polnischen Schlagbaum vorbei gekommen....😂😂😂 ....Was wohl nicht schlecht gewesen wäre....😢
I have m4a3 in wot...nice tank
В настоящем бою эти Шерманы были бы уничтожены Тигром как куропатки. Режиссёр видимо понятия не имеет как танки должны атаковать. В этом фильме они атакуют в один ряд, причём рядышком идут. Наводчику даже прицел не надо менять, а передвигать башню только. За две минуты они были бы все уничтожены.
best scene, thx alot!
Цирк. Зачем Тигр начал сближение, если дистанция итак убойная в любую проекцию Шермана, притом любым типом боеприпаса бронебойным, кумулятивным или подкалиберным
Just one tiger....
Usually Germans shoot the first tank in the colomn but not when Brad Pitt is the commander of that tank 😂
Fun movie for sure but any discussion about accuracy is a waste of time 😊
Because you were there...thanks for your first hand account of history.
@@JM7284 You have plenty of first hand accounts they just require reading them you can't watch them on a screen
Nobody figured to aim for the tracks. Rooky mistake. Either that or load gold.😉
Yankees You had no chances without airforce. this film is a just hollywood comedy
How unrealistic.
Why would the tiger close in on the shermans?
Why let the last sherman go behind him?
Many people find this scene illogical, even idiotic. Everyone is betting on the Tiger to win and wondering why the Shermans won. If this had happened at a training ground, then yes, the Tiger would have won. But they are not at a training ground. So, point by point.
1. The Shermans are moving across the field, visibility is good, the enemy has nowhere to hide. The Americans are not expecting an attack at all. After all, the Germans have long retreated. Therefore, it is not surprising that they missed the ambush of one tank. One tank is very easy to camouflage and difficult to detect.
2. After the last tank in the column was knocked out, the American tankers quickly figured out where the fire was coming from. The cloud of gunpowder gases gave away the enemy's location. Why didn't the Germans knock out the lead tank? And what would that have changed? An ambush of just one tank. In any case, the rest of the tanks would also have deployed into battle formations and accepted the fight.
3. Since the Americans knew nothing about the enemy, they began to retreat into the forest. Seeing that there was only one tank there, they fired phosphorus shells at it, creating a smoke screen. What should they do next? Run? Where to? You can’t outrun a Tiger. Its gun is guaranteed to hit you. Moreover, they think that the Tiger is moving and will certainly be able to pursue them. The Sherman commander did the right thing by giving the order to advance. This was the only way out. While the Tiger is in the smoke, they need to quickly close in on it and knock it out from close range. After all, the Tiger’s armor is very strong. Why should they advance side by side? And how should they advance? If they split up, firstly, they will lose precious time, and secondly, they will expose their sides, increasing their chances of being knocked out.
4. The Tiger commander is no fool either. He could not remain in ambush. The smoke screen was making it difficult to see the enemy, and the acrid smoke from the white phosphorus would have been uncomfortable for the German crew. So he moved forward to get a better view of the enemy tanks. The Tiger emerged from the smoke before the Shermans could get close to it. Why didn't the Tiger stop? Probably because the German commander didn't want to become a target. It's much harder to hit a moving tank. The American tanks didn't stop for the same reason. The Tiger knocked out the two right Shermans to prevent them from going around it from the right. The other two tanks were heading straight for it. It knows for sure that its frontal armor will hold up if something happens.
5. When the last two Shermans remained, they were almost right next to the Tiger. Logically, they began to scatter in different directions to attack the Tiger from the flanks. The Tiger knocked out another tank, and its commander quickly realized what he wanted to do with the last Sherman. He immediately began to back up and turn the turret. Why did he open fire with the machine gun? To kill the Sherman commander or to convince him to hide in the turret. It is more difficult to observe from the turret, and in such a situation you need to keep both eyes open so as not to miss your chance. The Americans, by the way, did the same. Why didn’t the Tiger turn around on its tracks to speed up aiming? Why did it need to do that? The German tank had already managed to aim, fire and hit the side. The shell passed tangentially. The Sherman received minor damage, but did not lose its combat capability. The excitement of the Tiger crew is growing. Now the Sherman is a real threat. The Germans understand what this Sherman is doing and begin to move forward to break the distance. The Germans want to finish off the Sherman as quickly as possible, and fire a second shot. Damn it, it’s too early!!! The shell only grazed the front part. But there is no point in spinning on the tracks anymore. The Germans continue to move forward and turn the turret. They almost aim, but don't have time. The end.
Brad Pitt would have had a grease gun not a Thompson submachine gun. This movie was so inaccurate it makes me laugh.
Look closer. Not a Thompson. 😉
he uses a captured stg 44 throughout the film, not a thompson....
what a crap
Lighter Ronson! 🙄😒
One hell of a movie 🔥🔥🔥
在二戰的交換比率中,平均下來是三輛謝爾曼交換一輛虎式.所以這部電影並不誇張.
almost
Warum sollte sich der Tiger auf diese Amihelden zubewegen???
Dramaturgie.
May be thats why us tanks are so huge now.
Old actors are not a reality
Oh dear oh dear. Silly American movie. Kudos to Bovington for allowing the use of these amazing tanks in the movie though esp 131 the legend. Ok. So, the Yanks refused to use the Firefly Sherman conversion. Stupid boys. One famous incident recorded the destruction of 3 Tigers by one Brit Firefly including killing a highly decorated Tiger vet commander. The English gun on the Firefly was completely capable of penetrating the Tiger forward armour, so the manoeuvres used in the movie were unnecessary. As someone else said, the Tiger would have attacked the Firefly first, destroying it from the side, then would have easily defeated the remaining Shermans. Still, great to see these wonderful tanks in action, total kudos to Bovington Tank Museum.
Pěkná pohatka pro děti Tiger bi jedal Jak nic nikdy bi nevijel tak dobrého místa 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Brad Pitt mit STG44
These movie is hardly bearable
The movie Fury is one of the best when it comes to tank movies... Very good
Unrealistisch
it's one of the worst, too unrealistic.
Ami Scheiss 😂😂😂
@@GerhardSchutz naja, er soll unterhalten. Er ist gut gemacht. Realistisch wäre Brat Pitt mindestens 3 mal gestorben, angefangen bei dem Kampf gegen die PAK 🤣🤣🤦♂️
Větší blbost jsem ještě neviděl!!!!
Amerika comedy 😂
So ein Scheiß der Tiger hätte niemals die Deckung verlassen und die drei Blechbüchsen hatt er zum Frühstück verspeist !
Rubbish film
What a joke.
Dang
Great movie.
Che minchiata di film
Lucky they will face to Panzer VI Tiger I, But in fact history, The Nazi Germany all Heavy Tank Division change to operate More fire power and heavy armour protect Tanks, Is Panzer VI King Tiger, If there moive put the King Tiger, They not against heavy armour and deadly heavy fire power tank gun.
Ein US-Schwachsinn!!
Warthunder in console:
L'équipage du char allemand a commis une grave erreur en quittant le couvert, il aurait été capable de détruire les chars US sans danger pour lui. Il devait s'agir d'une bande d'incapabl es idiots ! 😂😂😂
Hollywood fantasy...
I dont care how unrealistic this is. I still enjoyed the film
We all know we don't always get what we want, so there's no use arguing about how lazy this scene is.
So far beyond reality...OMG. .... And of course : Just show the German Maschine, never the guys inside. To make people believe being German is true evil. Btw, German tank crews never ever corresponded inside the tank like shown.....
3:55 76mm can penetrate tiger from that distance, tiger 1 is really overrated
Nope the British 17 pounder on their Sherman and the 90mm Pershing guns were the only ones that even in theory could knock out a tiger from the front
76 mm could actually penetrate front armor of the Tiger 1 but under 300 m or less@@mikesmith-wk7vy
@@mikesmith-wk7vy what?! The 76mm could definitely pen the front of a Tiger 1. At ~500 meters using standard APC, and at ~1200 meters using tungsten-core HVAP. Fury belongs to a 2nd armored division unit that was historically supplied with HVAP rounds since late 1944.
Realistisch wäre der Firefly der erste Panzer gewesen der zerstört worden wäre. Danach wär der Rest der Kolonne nur noch Übungsschießen für den Tiger. Diese Szene und auch die davor mit der Pak-Stellung sind so unrealistisch.
@@ss44bbrr33 yea , thats why the British would camo paint the barrel on the firefly to disguise it as a regular Sherman