Hello Kain - thanks for watching - you can get some variant from a lot of places, but UKBumpKeys invented this technique and I trust the ones used there: www.ukbumpkeys.com/products/bump-key-dampeners
Everytime I read your comments I forget that's your username and my first thought is 'Oh Lord, this chap isn't happy' and then I remember. And yes, turning the Dampener is superb, legendary bumping skills! It's pretty much the technique I always use when bumping. But you need that nice big Grommet, it's not so easy - I'd almost say impossible - with a little washer. Nice one for watching.
Hello Dean, thanks for watching. If the lock is in the door and you don't know what brand it is - trial and error - but you can usually (with the help of a torch) see the first pin in the lock and ensure the first peak of the bump key is touching it (or the second pin if it's a 5 pin lock (although that's not always the case). I put the bump key in the lock, make sure the first pin is touching the first peak, then place dampeners next to the key to see how many approx I'll need, then add and subtract thin Dampeners from there.
Best video I have seen on bumping. The tricks with the dampeners and the angled striking of the key were new to me even though I have seen several videos on bumping from well-known pickers. Excellent work. By the way, it's momentum transfer. It is called a kinetic technique but that refers to the methods employed by the picker.
I've recently been making a few shorts, and there's a few bumping ones in there. if you can stand my maniac voice trying to get all the info in such a small amount of time, there's some interesting tricks. Sorry about the late reply, I wasn't notified about these comments!
Hello - As long as the bump key fits and there's a bit of play, give it a go. You can buy sets that have the brand of the profile on the key, but since so much metal is removed from the key it will work on more than just that brand profile. Pin spacing is an issue, although there's not much difference with spacing across most locks (with a few exceptions.)
You can make them with some needle files, but these came from UKBumpKeys.com because they invented the Dampener technique and I can't find shoulderless bump keys anywhere else. If the keys have the shoulder the cut into the dampeners pretty quickly, and these dampeners (also from UKBumpKeys) have that nice big Grommet, so you can do that turning technique.
@@LockPickingLegend thanks legend keep up the great info it's great for a newbie like me but I think it will b a long time before I start using something like these things I have just discovered rakes and I think that they are fantastic tks B.C.N.U
Thanks for watching, I never got round to saying it, but I would usually do that with the bump hammer perpendicular to the lock, but the camera made that a bit tricky, and that way you can catch it at a safer angle - because the angle in the video will at some point, snap the bump key.
@@ptb2023 OK, I meant country, lol, but if you want to get into bumping, which would also mean buying a bump-hammer and some Dampeners, you'd probably do well with UK Bump Keys 3pc 'Universal' set. They're not actually universal, thwre's just too many profiles out there, but they're the industry 'universal' profile, the code being UN6d and UL054 depending on the blank supplier. But unless you're a working locksmith you'll still need to get loads of locks, because not only are you having to find locks they fit, you also need to find locks that are vulnerable to this particular exploit, which in fairness is quite a few. But it's a skill that needs learning, practicing, and an understanding of how cylinder locks work and how the bumping technique actually functions to get the most out of it. If you're not into lock picking, this is quite the deep end to step into.
@LockPickingLegend England haha yes I work as a maintenance engineer so we come across snapped keys like for like lock replacements so work are putting me on a locksmith course iv started picking locks at home in a vice etc buying of ebay
It certainly would. But there's a great book by Marc Tobias called 'Open in 30 Seconds' where they take the Medeco Biaxial lock - possibly one of the most secure locks out there - I mean Medeco really threw the book at it in terms of security features, and worked out about 6 ways of getting it open in about 30 seconds.
@@RuneInternational I don't think they were flaws as such - I mean all locks are flawed, that's how we can exploit them. Marc is just very good - and if you take any lock apart and study it you'll find ways to open it. The Biaxial has rotating pins which turn according to angular cuts on the key which ten engage with a sidebar, and Marc even found a way to bump it. Even after medeco made changes, Marc bumped it using (if I remember rightly) a paperclip, to deal with the changes. Jon King made a Medecoder which allowed picking and decoding of the Biaxial too. There's plenty of info online about it all and a very interesting story. The book is definitely worth a read though, as it goes into some depth about how to exploit otherwise unconsidered components and security mechanisms in locks. it's like spool pins, you know you have one because you get counter-rotation, which is then easily picked, kind of making the spool pin pointless since it spills its own beans, so to speak. There's plenty of videos of the Ruko Garant plus being picked on UA-cam, although it's not a lock I've tried.
Let me just say a burglar would not gain entry by blind picking a garant plus without knowing the bitting. And same with the medeco locks. The girl who picked the M3 in court had a way to set the sidebar by just using the sliding element set by the steps on the side of the keys
Locksport do it on a vise, locksmiths do it on a door. My point is on a door is sometimes different angle than a vise. Sitting in your nice clean home is different than crouching on the ground with a customer looking over your shoulders. One is no pressure the other is high pressure. I'd like to see these lockpicking youtubers go out into the world and do it in real time no editing no practice locks in a vise.
Well I agree with you guy, I had to pick a Kryptonite D lock. Was harder to pick on the floor at and annoying angle. What mattered more was lubricant and the right tool. Sitting on the floor and all and a literally pain in my shoulder and knees. But eventually got the open. In the wild the lock lube and the right pick do the job.
Awesome mate thanks for info you learn something new every day
It really is a pleasure. I've just finished another video - going live tomorrow.
Can you direct me where to find those rubber washers? Brilliant video has inspired me to practice some bumping!
Hello Kain - thanks for watching - you can get some variant from a lot of places, but UKBumpKeys invented this technique and I trust the ones used there: www.ukbumpkeys.com/products/bump-key-dampeners
I had never seen the twist the dampener thing that is awesome what a legend!
Everytime I read your comments I forget that's your username and my first thought is 'Oh Lord, this chap isn't happy' and then I remember. And yes, turning the Dampener is superb, legendary bumping skills! It's pretty much the technique I always use when bumping. But you need that nice big Grommet, it's not so easy - I'd almost say impossible - with a little washer. Nice one for watching.
How many dampers do you know how to load the key with if the lock is in the door. Great vids
Hello Dean, thanks for watching. If the lock is in the door and you don't know what brand it is - trial and error - but you can usually (with the help of a torch) see the first pin in the lock and ensure the first peak of the bump key is touching it (or the second pin if it's a 5 pin lock (although that's not always the case). I put the bump key in the lock, make sure the first pin is touching the first peak, then place dampeners next to the key to see how many approx I'll need, then add and subtract thin Dampeners from there.
Best video I have seen on bumping. The tricks with the dampeners and the angled striking of the key were new to me even though I have seen several videos on bumping from well-known pickers. Excellent work. By the way, it's momentum transfer. It is called a kinetic technique but that refers to the methods employed by the picker.
I've recently been making a few shorts, and there's a few bumping ones in there. if you can stand my maniac voice trying to get all the info in such a small amount of time, there's some interesting tricks. Sorry about the late reply, I wasn't notified about these comments!
Just found this channel, man after my own heart , f**king legend 💪🏻💪🏻🔑
How LEGENDARY is that! Glad you're enjoying it. Excellent.
Great info thanks
A pleasure - turning the dampeners is magical as it takes the timing out of the process. Thanks for watching.
How do you know which bump key to use for a specific lock?
Hello - As long as the bump key fits and there's a bit of play, give it a go. You can buy sets that have the brand of the profile on the key, but since so much metal is removed from the key it will work on more than just that brand profile. Pin spacing is an issue, although there's not much difference with spacing across most locks (with a few exceptions.)
@@LockPickingLegend thank you
@@oldduffer584 Not a problem - any questions, fire away.
It's a beauty and no mistake.
That was magic legend do you have to make those type of keys yourself or did you buy em
You can make them with some needle files, but these came from UKBumpKeys.com because they invented the Dampener technique and I can't find shoulderless bump keys anywhere else. If the keys have the shoulder the cut into the dampeners pretty quickly, and these dampeners (also from UKBumpKeys) have that nice big Grommet, so you can do that turning technique.
@@LockPickingLegend thanks legend keep up the great info it's great for a newbie like me but I think it will b a long time before I start using something like these things I have just discovered rakes and I think that they are fantastic tks B.C.N.U
@@lockdownletdown7408 No worries - it's a pleasure to help out - the cross-section videos will be especially helpful to you if you've just started.
Great video, thank you for sharing this; had never heard of whacking the key at an angle before 😊
Thanks for watching, I never got round to saying it, but I would usually do that with the bump hammer perpendicular to the lock, but the camera made that a bit tricky, and that way you can catch it at a safer angle - because the angle in the video will at some point, snap the bump key.
@@LockPickingLegend great point, thank you for the extra tip 😊 you’re inspiring me to actually get around to practice bumping now, lol 😆
@@Chirael it's a technique worth having in your repertoire, it can open locks very quickly. Which is handy when you need to do that, obviously.
Just come across this how do you know which bump key to use m8 as there's different ones great vid
Well that will come with knowledge regarding pin cylinders and keyways. Where are you based?
@@LockPickingLegend manchester m8
@@ptb2023 OK, I meant country, lol, but if you want to get into bumping, which would also mean buying a bump-hammer and some Dampeners, you'd probably do well with UK Bump Keys 3pc 'Universal' set. They're not actually universal, thwre's just too many profiles out there, but they're the industry 'universal' profile, the code being UN6d and UL054 depending on the blank supplier. But unless you're a working locksmith you'll still need to get loads of locks, because not only are you having to find locks they fit, you also need to find locks that are vulnerable to this particular exploit, which in fairness is quite a few. But it's a skill that needs learning, practicing, and an understanding of how cylinder locks work and how the bumping technique actually functions to get the most out of it. If you're not into lock picking, this is quite the deep end to step into.
@LockPickingLegend England haha yes I work as a maintenance engineer so we come across snapped keys like for like lock replacements so work are putting me on a locksmith course iv started picking locks at home in a vice etc buying of ebay
the Wing Commander LLEEGG EENNDD going Old school 👍🔑
Back to the roots! Bumping is still legendary though. Glad you're still enjoying the videos 9I presume!)
good thing my frontdoor key has both 6 top pins and 10 sidebar sliders. That should make it harder to bump
It certainly would. But there's a great book by Marc Tobias called 'Open in 30 Seconds' where they take the Medeco Biaxial lock - possibly one of the most secure locks out there - I mean Medeco really threw the book at it in terms of security features, and worked out about 6 ways of getting it open in about 30 seconds.
@@LockPickingLegend was that not about a design flaw in the Medeco M3 ? You can see the internals of my ruko garant plus in a few of my ruko videos.
@@RuneInternational I don't think they were flaws as such - I mean all locks are flawed, that's how we can exploit them. Marc is just very good - and if you take any lock apart and study it you'll find ways to open it. The Biaxial has rotating pins which turn according to angular cuts on the key which ten engage with a sidebar, and Marc even found a way to bump it. Even after medeco made changes, Marc bumped it using (if I remember rightly) a paperclip, to deal with the changes. Jon King made a Medecoder which allowed picking and decoding of the Biaxial too. There's plenty of info online about it all and a very interesting story. The book is definitely worth a read though, as it goes into some depth about how to exploit otherwise unconsidered components and security mechanisms in locks. it's like spool pins, you know you have one because you get counter-rotation, which is then easily picked, kind of making the spool pin pointless since it spills its own beans, so to speak. There's plenty of videos of the Ruko Garant plus being picked on UA-cam, although it's not a lock I've tried.
@@RuneInternational Wow - that's a lot of Ruko vids you have - nice one, will have a look.
Let me just say a burglar would not gain entry by blind picking a garant plus without knowing the bitting. And same with the medeco locks. The girl who picked the M3 in court had a way to set the sidebar by just using the sliding element set by the steps on the side of the keys
Their Very fast i love them
I'm with you, once you've got the knack (and that turning the dampener is childsplay) they're rapido.
Locksport do it on a vise, locksmiths do it on a door. My point is on a door is sometimes different angle than a vise. Sitting in your nice clean home is different than crouching on the ground with a customer looking over your shoulders. One is no pressure the other is high pressure. I'd like to see these lockpicking youtubers go out into the world and do it in real time no editing no practice locks in a vise.
Maybe take a few breaths?
Well I agree with you guy, I had to pick a Kryptonite D lock. Was harder to pick on the floor at and annoying angle. What mattered more was lubricant and the right tool. Sitting on the floor and all and a literally pain in my shoulder and knees. But eventually got the open. In the wild the lock lube and the right pick do the job.
@@BD90.. Unless the pins are damaged. You never know what you run into in the wild, could be filled with bondo.
Ha! Sorry, I only just saw this comment.@@rmsg7504