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  • @babishculinaryuniverse
    @babishculinaryuniverse  4 роки тому +15990

    Alright folks, I think this channel has milked all it can from mac and cheese. Next on the hit list: waffles

    • @laishanavarro4901
      @laishanavarro4901 4 роки тому +128

      YESSSSS WAFFLES

    • @sihamhaqhaqi5068
      @sihamhaqhaqi5068 4 роки тому +151

      Would you ever consider going to Masterchef?🤔🙂

    • @umlol4271
      @umlol4271 4 роки тому +9

      love you

    • @Shteven99
      @Shteven99 4 роки тому +29

      Who else wants to see the cheapest vs expensive waffles 🧇

    • @gaearadan3379
      @gaearadan3379 4 роки тому +8

      Andrew is online at the same moment as I'm watching :'O I feel connected.

  • @mattsprintson
    @mattsprintson 4 роки тому +4959

    "Freshly ground salt and kosher pepper."
    What is Quarantine doing to our Babish?

    • @jasonmiller2379
      @jasonmiller2379 4 роки тому +190

      I dunno man, that sounds about right. Now to figure out where I can get some kosher pepper

    • @ConstantlyDamaged
      @ConstantlyDamaged 4 роки тому +160

      @@jasonmiller2379 It depends how the pepper was killed and butchered. 🙃

    • @nicolasubiera5956
      @nicolasubiera5956 4 роки тому +6

      I mean I frind my salt :D lol

    • @talalmansour2753
      @talalmansour2753 4 роки тому +6

      Was actually gonna say that but you said it before

    • @ahmedghazal9614
      @ahmedghazal9614 4 роки тому

      😂

  • @steviedavidson5130
    @steviedavidson5130 4 роки тому +13881

    “Freshly ground salt and kosher pepper”
    We’ve been tricked, we’ve been backstabbed and we’ve been quite possibly, bamboozled.

    • @repulser93
      @repulser93 4 роки тому +269

      RvB? In my Babish?
      It’s more likely than you think.

    • @Hydra_X9K_Music
      @Hydra_X9K_Music 4 роки тому +192

      Yeah that threw me off when i first heard it xD

    • @vinvin9577
      @vinvin9577 4 роки тому +64

      I really just found it funny

    • @theman3442
      @theman3442 4 роки тому +28

      RIP in pepperoni Joel

    • @doge_is_life5083
      @doge_is_life5083 4 роки тому +13

      When is it I didn't here it?

  • @julianzhang6067
    @julianzhang6067 4 роки тому +1445

    everyone out here talking about "freshly ground salt and kosher pepper", but what about "once the american is melted"

    • @橙子-p5r
      @橙子-p5r 4 роки тому +28

      Why? U one of those crunch pll? U like the bones?

    • @shanadeelkens2369
      @shanadeelkens2369 4 роки тому +5

      that really messed with my head, damn

    • @holczy0
      @holczy0 4 роки тому +17

      @@AxxLAfriku stop commenting on every video please

    • @renoutlaw8371
      @renoutlaw8371 4 роки тому +21

      "once the american is melted" This is kinda relevant right now tho

    • @Hi-ul2gc
      @Hi-ul2gc 4 роки тому +2

      @@holczy0 i just report him for spam

  • @FabbrizioPlays
    @FabbrizioPlays 2 роки тому +184

    For those wondering why the ATK recipe calls for American cheese, it's because American cheese is packed with sodium citrate, a powerful emulsifier that's especially effective for casein. The Dijon mustard is similar. And sauces emulsified without relying on starch keep a more consistent thickness across temperatures because the contraction of cooling starch is what causes the solidifying. Adam Ragusea has a great video on all this (a couple of them, actually).

    • @EarlHayward
      @EarlHayward Рік тому +1

      That probably helps explain why he didn’t use a roux… I have always used a roux, add a little milk, then cheese (and onion, garlic, a little meat) for my Mac and cheese…

  • @MeganMichelleTimeLapses
    @MeganMichelleTimeLapses 4 роки тому +727

    I love how you show the results of the mistakes it really helps me learn

    • @matthews1029
      @matthews1029 4 роки тому

      i know right!

    • @thatoneguy779
      @thatoneguy779 4 роки тому +3

      Typical white women who can't cook lol.

    • @Joiner113
      @Joiner113 4 роки тому +31

      @@thatoneguy779 based on your comment history you seem very repressed

    • @FGTRTD24
      @FGTRTD24 4 роки тому +2

      Alex Casillas You’re really cool, bro lol

    • @N1ckfurie
      @N1ckfurie 4 роки тому

      Even if the mistake is the portion of the freezing vessel hahahah it just adds so much personality too

  • @guhaonkar
    @guhaonkar 4 роки тому +1059

    Who else is missing the classic :
    "Let's get down to basics" right before the intro roll?

    • @crosscheck8770
      @crosscheck8770 4 роки тому +63

      I still miss the Frazier intro on the regular videos lol

    • @deadfr0g
      @deadfr0g 4 роки тому +29

      To defeat
      The Huns

    • @gozzilla177
      @gozzilla177 4 роки тому +13

      @@deadfr0g .....
      To defeat
      These buns!!!

    • @babishculinaryuniverse
      @babishculinaryuniverse  4 роки тому +84

      Hey I should make some of those!

    • @crosscheck8770
      @crosscheck8770 4 роки тому +22

      Binging with Babish and a throwback with “TOSSED SALADS ANDDDD SCRAMBLEEDDD EGSS?” :)

  • @danaul7855
    @danaul7855 4 роки тому +4800

    Babish just really takes every possible opportunity to flex his cheese
    Thanks for all those freshly ground likes

  • @matthewwilliams1416
    @matthewwilliams1416 3 роки тому +513

    Currently planning on making Mac and cheese from scratch for the first time ever tonight for a friend's giving get together and ive been doing nothing but consuming other people's recipes all day to prepare to make it the absolute best. Once again, Babish gives such a huge variety and breakdown of the science of the stuff that I feel like I understand mac on a different level XD

    • @es_three232
      @es_three232 3 роки тому +20

      I just made the southern style M&C for my potluck at work tomorrow. I hope yours comes out cheesy & delicious. Happy TG

    • @matthewwilliams1416
      @matthewwilliams1416 3 роки тому +28

      @@es_three232 It came out amazing!! People asked me for the recipe! I hope yours comes out wonderful too!!

    • @Oregreatness
      @Oregreatness 2 роки тому +5

      The southern one or the classic one ?

  • @astralAtaxia
    @astralAtaxia 4 роки тому +470

    “i kinda over-did it with the mozzarella” idk man it doesn’t get much more perfect than that

  • @bumblebee8903
    @bumblebee8903 4 роки тому +15266

    Babish’s cooking is so advanced that he’s one day going to make a recipe for tap water.

    • @w4bby
      @w4bby 4 роки тому +40

      xDDD

    • @couchpotato1922
      @couchpotato1922 4 роки тому +362

      Babish: sprinkle a pinch of kosher salt w i t h water

    • @schleep.
      @schleep. 4 роки тому +376

      I’m imagining it would go like this “ So there’s nothing wrong with this normal tap water but let’s make a babish version”

    • @Peppermon22
      @Peppermon22 4 роки тому +71

      I think boiling water before making cubes does something.

    • @daviswallace541
      @daviswallace541 4 роки тому +62

      Flint Michigan would appreciate that

  • @kitashi0
    @kitashi0 4 роки тому +2802

    "Freshly ground salt, and kosher pepper"
    *SHEF*

  • @dracoslayer16
    @dracoslayer16 4 роки тому +783

    "Let's be real, you're gonna use the family sized portion and eat it all on your own"
    You know us too well.

    • @YataTheFifteenth
      @YataTheFifteenth 3 роки тому +33

      my first reaction to that was "those are family sized?"

    • @cb41503
      @cb41503 2 роки тому +7

      Preach

    • @lancetheking7524
      @lancetheking7524 8 місяців тому

      "The serving size of this Carbonara is 4-6"
      Oh so you don't eat it by yourself?

  • @margaretc4860
    @margaretc4860 4 роки тому +1201

    "As it approaches room temperature, it's gonna turn into a brick."
    My dude, you're assuming I'm not gonna finish my mac and cheese before it hits room temp.

    • @LannasMissingLink
      @LannasMissingLink 4 роки тому +80

      I'd eat it even when it turns into a brick

    • @margaretc4860
      @margaretc4860 4 роки тому +17

      @@LannasMissingLink Same, honestly.

    • @michaelzhang7098
      @michaelzhang7098 4 роки тому +12

      I have never had Mac and cheese in my entire life.

    • @WhiteRaven___
      @WhiteRaven___ 4 роки тому +26

      @@michaelzhang7098 👈alien confirmed

    • @HOBOKNOD
      @HOBOKNOD 4 роки тому +5

      michael zhang
      Go to pretty much any restaurant around you and order some macaroni and cheese right now

  • @shanetaylor9288
    @shanetaylor9288 4 роки тому +586

    “Freshly ground salt and kosher pepper”
    Spongebob to Patrick: WRITE THAT DOWN, WRITE THAT DOWN

  • @ryanfitz5777
    @ryanfitz5777 4 роки тому +13899

    Get a load of this guy not making his own evaporated milk

    • @denniscuesta7009
      @denniscuesta7009 4 роки тому +176

      Hah! What a sore loser! LOL

    • @BollywoodBonanzaB
      @BollywoodBonanzaB 4 роки тому +185

      Are you Joshu--

    • @organizerbmo
      @organizerbmo 4 роки тому +376

      canned evaporated milk is good for the apocalypse, need a Basics for Apocalypse series cause got damn I'm poor and not gonna have fresh sharp cheddar and parm all the time

    • @missnerdynurse5923
      @missnerdynurse5923 4 роки тому +25

      Mowglli II holy shit, I would 1000% watch that series!!’

    • @missnerdynurse5923
      @missnerdynurse5923 4 роки тому +14

      Mowglli II you need to comment that in the open so we can bump that shit for visibility!

  • @montgomery9565
    @montgomery9565 4 роки тому +2099

    “I over did it with the mozzarella” said NO ONE EVER

    • @michaelmayo2489
      @michaelmayo2489 4 роки тому +36

      In the words of Jeremy Clarkson Oh No! ... anyways

    • @martaviviani1401
      @martaviviani1401 4 роки тому +1

      80th like yw

    • @user-kf8fd7se5l
      @user-kf8fd7se5l 3 роки тому +5

      You're the kind of guy that likes tiktok recipes

    • @c.9858
      @c.9858 3 роки тому +28

      @@user-kf8fd7se5l this reply makes no sense

    • @sarahbelle81
      @sarahbelle81 3 роки тому +6

      NOT EVERYONE LIKES OVERDOING MAC AND CHEESE, YOU'RE NOT QUIRKY

  • @SupermewX300
    @SupermewX300 4 роки тому +7533

    You keep saying things like "too much cheese" and "overdid it with the mozzarella", and I don't want that kind of negativity in my cooking videos.

  • @Rachel-xx1tj
    @Rachel-xx1tj 4 роки тому +4386

    Pre shredded vs post shredded 0:36
    Easiest mac and cheese 1:18
    America’s test kitchen 2:25
    J. Kenji Lopez-Alt recipe 3:49
    Classic recipe 4:58
    Southern style recipe 9:16
    Hoped this helped 💗

    • @rogan_.
      @rogan_. 4 роки тому +16

      Thanks

    • @RandomPerson-me9qn
      @RandomPerson-me9qn 4 роки тому +20

      woosh if gay r/woosh

    • @stickyickyrickypdx
      @stickyickyrickypdx 4 роки тому +24

      Thanks. I'm making the "classic recipe". He's a little all over the place with the measurements so I'm constantly rewinding to make sense of it.

    • @rogan_.
      @rogan_. 4 роки тому +16

      @@RandomPerson-me9qn guess ur gay

    • @georgiebe25
      @georgiebe25 4 роки тому +4

      Thank you!

  • @benedictschwarz324
    @benedictschwarz324 4 роки тому +1439

    How did “freshly ground salt and kosher pepper” get a laugh from me

  • @sickviking9892
    @sickviking9892 4 роки тому +132

    I'm 33 this year and I've never once in my life had a mac and cheese that wasnt out of a box. I'm super excited to try this.

    • @7HPDH
      @7HPDH 3 роки тому +13

      Well?? How was it?

    • @Bharlos
      @Bharlos 2 роки тому +3

      @Promotional Inc. The funeral was nice

  • @rosietran9194
    @rosietran9194 4 роки тому +1914

    bruh he broke my brain with “freshly ground salt and kosher pepper”

    • @eduardobarboza7030
      @eduardobarboza7030 4 роки тому +4

      Rosie Tran me too💀💀

    • @PacificoAyala321
      @PacificoAyala321 4 роки тому +52

      Im still learning English and that got me brain damage 😂😂

    • @tianagonzalez340
      @tianagonzalez340 4 роки тому +19

      Fr I had to replay it because I swear I was making it up when I heard it

    • @Alyks_the_Emerald_Sage
      @Alyks_the_Emerald_Sage 4 роки тому +28

      There ain't nothing like cracking open a cold milkshake! That's the same vibe I got.

    • @ivehadamnesiafor12years
      @ivehadamnesiafor12years 4 роки тому

      he says it in every video even on binging with babsih

  • @west_saeed7900
    @west_saeed7900 4 роки тому +749

    Perhaps the most contested dish of all time. Everyone’s moms makes theirs better than the others.

    • @pomnut4308
      @pomnut4308 4 роки тому +8

      My mom makes the best ❌🧢

    • @cousinlupe922
      @cousinlupe922 4 роки тому +21

      My mom sucks lol

    • @teopalafox
      @teopalafox 4 роки тому +23

      @@cousinlupe922 oh she sucks alright

    • @angelinageorge9526
      @angelinageorge9526 4 роки тому +6

      My moms the best and if you disagree you’re wrong

    • @ohmygahdbilly
      @ohmygahdbilly 4 роки тому +3

      My mum tried to make it once and apologized because of how terrible it tasted.

  • @stewiegriffin12341
    @stewiegriffin12341 4 роки тому +1003

    At 3 am when you’re very hungry, this is basically porn.

  • @socialdef3
    @socialdef3 4 роки тому +43

    Man - I made the 5 cheese version at 5:00 for our Christmas meal at the in-laws. It was a hit - everyone loved it and had second helpings. Thanks for your awesome recipes and innovations!!!

  • @aherohasfallen
    @aherohasfallen 4 роки тому +229

    When he said “let’s be real, the family sized that we’re gonna eat all on our own.”
    I felt that more than anything in my entire life.

  • @DoggletPug
    @DoggletPug 4 роки тому +1653

    "Freshly ground salt and kosher pepper"
    *Discomfort*

    • @MisterMicrowaves
      @MisterMicrowaves 4 роки тому +7

      🤣

    • @noah--1831
      @noah--1831 4 роки тому +3

      Kosher salt....?

    • @cf6201
      @cf6201 4 роки тому +28

      I had to pause the video and scroll to the comments to see if I was tripping haha

    • @rand9362
      @rand9362 4 роки тому +1

      Epic gamer Dude I guess that was the point

    • @duhwookie6005
      @duhwookie6005 4 роки тому +2

      @@cf6201 same not lying i even replayed the video to check if my ears were working

  • @hiimjill3491
    @hiimjill3491 4 роки тому +275

    *Babish make something that has cheese in it*
    His whole collection of cheese: My time has come

  • @username11011
    @username11011 4 роки тому +476

    nobody:
    soviet spy: "ok so once the american is all melted"

  • @WerewolfStory
    @WerewolfStory 4 роки тому +410

    “I kinda overdid it with the mozzarella cubes”
    The Fat Controller laughed.
    *”You are wrong.”*

    • @fricc3824
      @fricc3824 4 роки тому +2

      finally, someone with class!

    • @notaseagull3320
      @notaseagull3320 4 роки тому +3

      There’s no such thing as too much cheese...

    • @sarahbelle81
      @sarahbelle81 3 роки тому

      @@notaseagull3320 there is
      on paper it sounds nice, then you get this gluey thick mess

  • @keshsquad9681
    @keshsquad9681 4 роки тому +497

    “Freshly ground salt and kosher pepper” sounds yummy ngl - 2:58

    • @boopdeboop2139
      @boopdeboop2139 4 роки тому +5

      thank god i wasn't the only one who heard that

    • @phexialic8033
      @phexialic8033 4 роки тому +11

      Pepper pepper pepper

    • @ReefaEats
      @ReefaEats 4 роки тому +2

      If he didn’t say kosher pepper I would’ve missed it

    • @SpcyCff
      @SpcyCff 4 роки тому +1

      how in the blue cheese did I miss this

  • @tobiasmeerdink5023
    @tobiasmeerdink5023 4 роки тому +4617

    I literally cried about that last mac and cheese. I cannot believe this. It was so beautiful. I'm so hungry.

    • @Liamjlm
      @Liamjlm 3 роки тому +55

      When the imposter is sus! 😳

    • @FlexibleToast
      @FlexibleToast 3 роки тому +12

      A teaspoon of sodium citrate would fix that situation. Don't fear the white powders.

    • @Paffiiz
      @Paffiiz 3 роки тому +34

      Thanks for the warning was just about to watch it on an empty stomach. Could have gone wrong real quick

    • @hekev
      @hekev 3 роки тому +11

      This is the first time I see an american Mac&Cheese with eggs. I'd suggest add some ground beef, onions and my favorite, garlic. It's delicious.

    • @michaelbrandon1222
      @michaelbrandon1222 3 роки тому +6

      Get help

  • @cilantrolime
    @cilantrolime 3 роки тому +388

    He forgot the excessive amount of bacon and ham in the southern mac and cheese

    • @turretboi
      @turretboi 3 роки тому +71

      There's no such thing as excessive amounts of bacon.

    • @vividlight5789
      @vividlight5789 3 роки тому +14

      @@turretboi you are a true gentleman

    • @kaldogorath
      @kaldogorath 3 роки тому +5

      Ahh so a casserole

  • @adrianebayaras3985
    @adrianebayaras3985 4 роки тому +805

    *"freshly ground salt"*
    *"kosher pepper"*
    something's wrong i can feel it

    • @monolith253
      @monolith253 4 роки тому +19

      I don’t think that’s Babish. It just might be an imposter.

    • @Aliwewl
      @Aliwewl 4 роки тому +23

      I feel a disturbance in the force

    • @austinrowat5496
      @austinrowat5496 4 роки тому +17

      I knew this comment would be here

    • @JohnEZ2
      @JohnEZ2 4 роки тому +14

      I was looking to see if anyone else noticed.

    • @perksofperks
      @perksofperks 4 роки тому +3

      I came down to the comment to type exactly that

  • @bloooper
    @bloooper 4 роки тому +871

    wow quarantine ruined Babish, he didn't even make his own pan or casserole dish smh

    • @cupfulofeathers
      @cupfulofeathers 4 роки тому +58

      And no homemade water? Jeeze, unsubbing now

    • @jamesiyer4937
      @jamesiyer4937 4 роки тому +32

      No homemade air, leaving this channel and never coming back

    • @abdurarichards3545
      @abdurarichards3545 4 роки тому +11

      No homemade homemade? Yea unsubbing too

    • @vellstraus1555
      @vellstraus1555 4 роки тому +2

      @Zach Tescher whattt....he is made himself? im done with babish

    • @judehn853
      @judehn853 4 роки тому +5

      Really?
      What are you on about
      he’s never made the pans in any
      of his videos. Idk if you’re joking
      or tryna get attention
      Or just being
      stupid but
      How do you expect him to make a pan?😤

  • @Bingus_mcgee
    @Bingus_mcgee 4 роки тому +586

    Can't believe he really owns the ironwood kitchenette IRL

    • @rosekat1102
      @rosekat1102 4 роки тому +2

      Lucky oml

    • @sofieb8866
      @sofieb8866 4 роки тому

      lmaooo ikkk😭😭

    • @catherineb196
      @catherineb196 4 роки тому +2

      Waiting for that freaking ironwood dresser DIY. I have everything else to complete this masterpiece, ugh

  • @jonathanpainter5234
    @jonathanpainter5234 14 днів тому

    Thanks!

  • @alxnotorious
    @alxnotorious 4 роки тому +528

    When I find myself in times of trouble
    Brother Babish comes to me
    Speaking words of wisdom
    Mac and cheese

    • @andriealinsangao613
      @andriealinsangao613 4 роки тому +31

      And in my hour of darkness
      He is standing right in front of me
      Speaking words of wisdom
      MAC AND CHEESE

    • @Cenabull
      @Cenabull 4 роки тому +1

      Andrie Alinsangao shut

    • @mugginsthejinx1037
      @mugginsthejinx1037 4 роки тому +22

      And when the broken hearted people
      Living in the world agree
      There will be an answer,
      Mac & Cheese

    • @piro___
      @piro___ 4 роки тому +19

      For though they may be parted
      There is still a chance that they will see
      There will be an answer, Mac and cheese

    • @gabrielguerrero7296
      @gabrielguerrero7296 4 роки тому +2

      Yeaaah UA-cam sings

  • @SlapMyBass3825
    @SlapMyBass3825 4 роки тому +487

    "Freshly ground salt and kosher pepper". I caught that. 2:58

    • @f00lish_commentator8
      @f00lish_commentator8 4 роки тому +3

      This isn't babish

    • @Monique_Art_
      @Monique_Art_ 4 роки тому +1

      Its opposite day

    • @randomsongs7797
      @randomsongs7797 4 роки тому +6

      I love putting freshly ground salt and kosher pepper on my food

    • @SlapMyBass3825
      @SlapMyBass3825 4 роки тому +1

      Freshly ground sea salt is amazing on food. Kosher pepper is impossible to find.

    • @canrieger3516
      @canrieger3516 4 роки тому +1

      Just wanted to comment on that

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 4 роки тому +344

    I've never appreciated how Mac and Cheese was made until I watched this.

  • @zygoncommander1239
    @zygoncommander1239 2 роки тому +8

    Reminds me of how my mom made her “mac and cheese casserole” on special occasions when I was a kid. A box of Craft poured in a casserole dish with half a bag of shredded cheese on top and baked in the oven. Magical.

  • @grafle8801
    @grafle8801 4 роки тому +1675

    Anti-clumping agents cause clumping in the final product.
    The irony.

    • @Intelerythm
      @Intelerythm 4 роки тому +251

      I guess they’re double-agents.

    • @melindabagnall8371
      @melindabagnall8371 4 роки тому +5

      @@Intelerythm haha funny pun

    • @franciosdauteuil4626
      @franciosdauteuil4626 4 роки тому +7

      I mean.... to be fair you can even taste the difference. Fresh is always best

    • @FemmePistolera
      @FemmePistolera 3 роки тому +12

      not to be the party pooper here, I think those are emulsifiers which are usually proteins... and what happens to proteins when you heat them up? They denature or turn a certain way--hence the clumpy texture that anti-clumping agents give. Correct me if this is not quite right, but this is to the best of my knowledge.

    • @smartaleckduck4135
      @smartaleckduck4135 3 роки тому +14

      They’ve become the very thing they swore to destroy

  • @karl7691
    @karl7691 4 роки тому +4233

    Anyone catch the “freshly ground salt and kosher pepper”

  • @Eli-lu5he
    @Eli-lu5he 4 роки тому +4280

    You should do a miniseries called "broke with babish" where you do very cheap but delicious
    Edit: before people say it i know it's not original but I am just trying to get the message out there

  • @toughluck8012
    @toughluck8012 2 роки тому +14

    S tier mac. I even impressed my notoriously picky dad, who not only went back for seconds, but even asked me to make it again for our Christmas gathering. Thanks Babish. This was a great meal 🙏

  • @HorrorHoarder
    @HorrorHoarder 4 роки тому +5532

    Look at this guy. Doesn't even make his own flour smh

    • @cmo3212
      @cmo3212 4 роки тому +119

      A weissman fan I see

    • @HorrorHoarder
      @HorrorHoarder 4 роки тому +52

      @@cmo3212 i'm a simple man if they make food i like em

    • @coochieman6221
      @coochieman6221 4 роки тому +61

      This post was made by Joshua weissman gang

    • @karamdabagh
      @karamdabagh 4 роки тому +5

      oh no, what have you done

    • @fishbone116
      @fishbone116 4 роки тому +6

      I like them both

  • @kokoskolan2099
    @kokoskolan2099 4 роки тому +339

    Hold on,
    2:58
    “Season with freshly ground salt and kosher pepper”

    • @Goofyahh1337
      @Goofyahh1337 4 роки тому +12

      Hol’ up....

    • @momothebear
      @momothebear 4 роки тому +27

      I can Imagine people going to the store and sweating bullets over not finding Kosher pepper. "Do I need to contact a rabbi, or something?"

    • @claytonumoh673
      @claytonumoh673 4 роки тому

      so im not the only one that got that

    • @AMabud-lv7hy
      @AMabud-lv7hy 4 роки тому +2

      @@momothebear Just recite a segment of Torah and blow air on your pepper mill, you've created Kosher pepper!

    • @jbzangyat
      @jbzangyat 4 роки тому

      (confused screaming)

  • @sofiuhk
    @sofiuhk 4 роки тому +865

    i’m just going to make the first one and tell everyone we have 5 minutes to eat it

    • @diora266
      @diora266 4 роки тому +4

      lol🤣

    • @diora266
      @diora266 4 роки тому +34

      i would totally eat it in 5 mins anyways

    • @FilthyCasual268
      @FilthyCasual268 4 роки тому +23

      I'd gladly eat it after it's sat in the fridge for 2 days and a bowl of it heated up in the microwave for a minute and a half, that's all I needed to see....

    • @ashmeetsingh9443
      @ashmeetsingh9443 4 роки тому +2

      i have found my twin

    • @TheBearOfSpades
      @TheBearOfSpades 4 роки тому

      Why not just grate the cheese? There really isn't that big of a price difference between grated and non grated cheese.

  • @kazumamaster
    @kazumamaster 2 роки тому +27

    It gives me some comfort as a beginner to know that even a great chef like yourself can make mistakes too haha

  • @Quansto
    @Quansto 4 роки тому +241

    This episode could've also been titled: "You gonna want to take a nap after this."

  • @jp7520
    @jp7520 4 роки тому +720

    Babish: “Freshly ground salt and kosher pepper”
    Me: *nods intensely*

    • @mastercraftmc3762
      @mastercraftmc3762 4 роки тому +6

      I saw that too and was like hmmm 🤔

    • @GatorSE2610
      @GatorSE2610 4 роки тому +8

      Me too just like hmm yes floor here is made out of roof

    • @maxpanich8634
      @maxpanich8634 4 роки тому +3

      Hmmmmm. Ah, yes. Cilantro. Enslaved Disgust

    • @kayleebrown2921
      @kayleebrown2921 4 роки тому

      Harharhar

    • @sanisbd
      @sanisbd 4 роки тому +2

      @@mastercraftmc3762 not to be nitpicky but you actually heard it :)

  • @stevengreer3327
    @stevengreer3327 3 роки тому +21

    “Freshly ground salt and kosher pepper”
    I love this guy. I know that gem was for people like me who’d chuckle.

    • @Liamjlm
      @Liamjlm 3 роки тому +1

      What

    • @rynbickel
      @rynbickel 3 роки тому +3

      2:56 I was wondering if anyone else noticed

  • @crankthatrebecca12
    @crankthatrebecca12 4 роки тому +506

    As someone from Wisconsin, this is almost enough cheese.

    • @reid1420
      @reid1420 4 роки тому +24

      No. You can never have enough

    • @madzilla6812
      @madzilla6812 4 роки тому +24

      I’m not even from Wisconsin I’m just white. I’m am the literal definition of how you can lure a white person with cheese. When my parents have come home from the store and want me to bring in groceries they say they have cheese in there...

    • @blue_kobolt1785
      @blue_kobolt1785 4 роки тому +7

      Daniel Reid that is the correct answer, even though there was no question :)

    • @crankthatrebecca12
      @crankthatrebecca12 4 роки тому +3

      Daniel Reid correct. You pass the Wisconsin citizen test!

    • @crankthatrebecca12
      @crankthatrebecca12 4 роки тому +2

      Madzilla dude, when I was super sick with my crohns (the insurance wouldn’t cover my first set of meds to start treating it) the only food that didn’t come straight out was cheese so it’s a favorite here

  • @vincentrecto8794
    @vincentrecto8794 4 роки тому +312

    2:58
    "Season with freshly ground salt and kosher pepper"
    I didn't even catch it the first time

    • @caitlynsoliday9720
      @caitlynsoliday9720 4 роки тому +10

      I caught it right away and then was searching to see who else did!!

    • @MattPChoy
      @MattPChoy 4 роки тому

      @@caitlynsoliday9720 Was just going to write this comment

    • @csorgotom
      @csorgotom 4 роки тому +1

      I was like: ok hold up what?
      And then headed to the comment section to see if he really said it or I'm just too high

    • @andreidobrescu2295
      @andreidobrescu2295 4 роки тому

      Me too and now i m writing this comment

    • @lordsergal8783
      @lordsergal8783 4 роки тому

      I missed it the first time because I was too busy reading the comments about it.

  • @gianlucacristofoli-quinn8345
    @gianlucacristofoli-quinn8345 4 роки тому +1037

    Is he going to ignore the fact that he just casually hit 7 MILLION SUBSCRIBERS

    • @Visceralx1
      @Visceralx1 4 роки тому +16

      Laat time i came here he have only 2 million wth

    • @andrewt013
      @andrewt013 4 роки тому +1

      normal people don't care about numbers

    • @Leo_Has_EJR_Rizz
      @Leo_Has_EJR_Rizz 4 роки тому +14

      He's probably making the special right now.

    • @theangledsaxon6765
      @theangledsaxon6765 4 роки тому +5

      I remember his 1m tour vid way before his face reveal 🥺🥺

    • @asmajalis
      @asmajalis 4 роки тому

      Gianluca Cristofoli-Quinn yes

  • @catinasuitcase
    @catinasuitcase 3 роки тому +48

    "Make sure you swirl it regularly otherwise it might explode." Me not knowing he's dead serious.

  • @Jesteresque20
    @Jesteresque20 4 роки тому +399

    "A salacious sprinkle of cayenne pepper"
    Chef John has entered the chat

  • @shadowcadette
    @shadowcadette 4 роки тому +441

    I almost snapped my neck when I heard “Freshly ground salt and kosher pepper”

  • @joey.h14
    @joey.h14 4 роки тому +5391

    Get a load of this guy. Didn’t even make his own pots, pans, or knives.

    • @Lma432
      @Lma432 4 роки тому +69

      couldn't be me

    • @mezlekiatebebe8914
      @mezlekiatebebe8914 4 роки тому +5

      @Edie acasta Thats not the point

    • @yeahok6240
      @yeahok6240 4 роки тому +103

      damn, didn't even build his own house.

    • @mezlekiatebebe8914
      @mezlekiatebebe8914 4 роки тому +4

      @ Edie acasta yeah make fun of me for playing cod when you play fall guys and fortnite

    • @kingdomofnerdz1497
      @kingdomofnerdz1497 4 роки тому +4

      What a joke! Lol

  • @GrizzlyTank
    @GrizzlyTank 3 роки тому +10

    I’ve found that using cream cheese or heavy whipping cream as the base of the sauce is far superior than starting with a roux. It’s less likely to become grainy or clump together. Roux can be done right but it takes more time and there’s little room for error before the texture gets ruined.

    • @mariannesouza8326
      @mariannesouza8326 3 роки тому +2

      Thank you!

    • @Blue_Sonnet
      @Blue_Sonnet 2 роки тому +1

      How much would you use for this recipe? It's hard to guesstimate since there's a solid ingredient (grated cheese) in the recipe...

    • @GrizzlyTank
      @GrizzlyTank 2 роки тому +4

      @@Blue_Sonnet depends on how big of a batch I’m making, but I’d say roughly half a cup to begin with. If using cream cheese I always start by adding a splash of milk to some melted butter, then I thoroughly mix in the cream cheese before adding grated cheese. If I’m using heavy cream then I just melt some butter at low heat then stir in the cream. The trick to having a smooth creamy sauce is to add the grated cheese at the lowest possible heat while still being able to melt. If the heat is too high the solids will separate from the fats and you wind up with clumps of cheese and pools of grease. Cooking it for too long will also cause it to separate so you want to add the noodles as soon as the cheese is melted.
      I hope that helps.

  • @robbob5258
    @robbob5258 4 роки тому +306

    “Freshly ground salt and kosher pepper.”
    Everyday, we stray further from god.

  • @jumanadald
    @jumanadald 4 роки тому +3660

    _Disappointed, he didn’t even make his own cheese_

    • @Vikram21-2K
      @Vikram21-2K 4 роки тому +14

      how did u get that font.

    • @Kal0nji
      @Kal0nji 4 роки тому +28

      vadla vikram chary I thinks it’s _ on both sides of the text. _like this_

    • @mish2773
      @mish2773 4 роки тому +7

      Kakyoin likes memes _like this?_

    • @mish2773
      @mish2773 4 роки тому +6

      Kakyoin likes memes *_gasps_*

    • @KHRacing
      @KHRacing 4 роки тому +2

      _lol_

  • @Fronken89
    @Fronken89 4 роки тому +1006

    "Hot Roux, Cold Milk, No Lumps." -Chef John

    • @KaiserAfini
      @KaiserAfini 4 роки тому +201

      Your comment needs a dash of cayenne pepper. But that depends on you, after all, you are the host of your UA-cam post.

    • @Kyle-gl2ck
      @Kyle-gl2ck 4 роки тому +23

      Make America Grate Again!

    • @meagand6951
      @meagand6951 4 роки тому +4

      @@KaiserAfini hello chef john

    • @andrewwong4299
      @andrewwong4299 4 роки тому +2

      you and kenji need to do a live cooking show....ASAP!!!

    • @erique1238
      @erique1238 4 роки тому +1

      Who is Chef Jon??

  • @LPDarkSoulsHD
    @LPDarkSoulsHD 3 роки тому +6

    I typically make a variant that's close to your shell one, the main differences being I use dijon instead of whole grain mustard and I usually sauté chopped jalapenos and garlic inside the roux. It's the first empty dish when I bring it to friendly gatherings lol. I'm going to experiment with the whole grain mustard and see how different it is. The southern mac looked great! Reminds me of Thanksgiving.

  • @danielr3310
    @danielr3310 4 роки тому +151

    First goes the pasta
    Then goes the sauce
    Binge like a master
    Babish like a boss

    • @henrymarks2237
      @henrymarks2237 4 роки тому +11

      You are the boss of your creamy cheese sauce

  • @e.l.2963
    @e.l.2963 4 роки тому +559

    This was a bad idea to watch at 2am, when all the stores are closed and the only ingredient i have to make this is water.

    • @MirageCalico
      @MirageCalico 4 роки тому +7

      same its 2:30 right now and I've been very quickly chowing down on cheez-its of this XD

    • @0Xmoon_pandaX0
      @0Xmoon_pandaX0 4 роки тому +22

      Just use 1 1/2 cup of water, and cover it with water, then to make the water, add 4 ounces of water, with a light sprinkle of water, then put it all in the water for 20 minutes and there you have a water version of water

    • @jeila__2629
      @jeila__2629 4 роки тому +1

      Keshawn Strother 💀💀💀

    • @e.l.2963
      @e.l.2963 4 роки тому

      @@0Xmoon_pandaX0 LOL! that sounds absolutely delicious >

    • @e.l.2963
      @e.l.2963 4 роки тому

      @@MirageCalico the struggle is real lol

  • @creeper5191
    @creeper5191 4 роки тому +245

    “First goes the pasta, and then the sauce. Why have I started singing? Well, just because.”

  • @MagusakaJanus
    @MagusakaJanus 4 роки тому +6

    My girlfriend and I made a variant of the baked mac and cheese to go along with fried chicken and it was absolutely amazing. We put bacon in ours and used some different cheeses, but otherwise followed the recipe as in the episode. Definitely recommended

    • @sparklingmariokart
      @sparklingmariokart 4 роки тому

      What size casserole dish did you use? I'm not sure if I'm Jaír missing it but he never specified in the video

  • @tylermasiello
    @tylermasiello 4 роки тому +399

    COMBINE EVERY SINGLE TYPE OF CHEESE YOU CAN FIND INTO ONE-PAN OF M&C

    • @zerocky1771
      @zerocky1771 4 роки тому +20

      Why are you yelling!? your not my supervisor !

    • @reid1420
      @reid1420 4 роки тому +4

      @@zerocky1771 😂😂😂

    • @maisymayhem
      @maisymayhem 4 роки тому +4

      Oh my god. Yes.

    • @thebigh4752
      @thebigh4752 4 роки тому +6

      @@zerocky1771 We have a Karen in aisle 5!

    • @vaelophisnyx9873
      @vaelophisnyx9873 4 роки тому +2

      unfortunately, past ~6 cheeses, the human tongue fails to distingush them. In addition most cheese don't get along in sauces (too many hard cheeses = clumpy)

  • @mkl1464
    @mkl1464 4 роки тому +413

    The ones he elaborately made was more like cheese with a side of pasta

    • @sanjivinsmoke9154
      @sanjivinsmoke9154 4 роки тому +28

      Just the way men of culture like it

    • @Bananesaus
      @Bananesaus 4 роки тому +9

      And what's wrong with that

    • @samuel5916
      @samuel5916 4 роки тому +42

      The pasta’s only purpose is to serve as a delivery system for the cheese.

    • @shellyt556
      @shellyt556 4 роки тому +2

      So yummy

  • @ImRefat
    @ImRefat 4 роки тому +190

    “Freshly ground salt and kosher pepper” really grated my cheese

  • @JAzzWoods-ik4vv
    @JAzzWoods-ik4vv 3 роки тому +22

    There was more cheese in this episode than what I can afford to buy in a year

  • @tdavvid
    @tdavvid 4 роки тому +267

    Gotta love that non-existent chronograph pusher on a Rolex Submariner.

    • @MrMeep1999
      @MrMeep1999 4 роки тому

      That's what I thought too!

    • @FabyArtz
      @FabyArtz 4 роки тому +1

      The submariner isn't a cronograph though

    • @SA-co5sm
      @SA-co5sm 4 роки тому +2

      @@FabyArtz the reason why it's a joke

    • @MrMeep1999
      @MrMeep1999 4 роки тому

      @@FabyArtz that's why it's funny

  • @jackturner2700
    @jackturner2700 4 роки тому +34

    i would love a basics with babish book, i have his other one already and its great for occasions but a basics book would be a god send for every day

  • @Kritacul
    @Kritacul 4 роки тому +196

    I'm a southern man till the day I die. But mac and cheese with SHELLS is a WHOLE lot better than ELBOW for both texture and for spoonful.

    • @Petaurista13
      @Petaurista13 4 роки тому +6

      Funny how Americans call it elbow when Polish name it "kolanka" (diminutive from "kolana" = "knees"). BTW elbow should be better for fork due to sauce going inside it.

    • @kashm9954
      @kashm9954 4 роки тому +2

      Same! The only difference between his recipe and my own is that I top it with paprika.

    • @smithhitemup2
      @smithhitemup2 4 роки тому +1

      Preach

    • @louie-laur
      @louie-laur 4 роки тому

      True, but I suspect it he also used different shapes to help differentiate the different recipes.

    • @GuacPapi
      @GuacPapi 4 роки тому

      Elbows are for amateurs

  • @ShawnC.W-King
    @ShawnC.W-King 3 роки тому +5

    When I do mine, traditional thanks to my Grandma and her recipe technique, it's a combination of the last one + mornay sauce within. Well done Andrew ♥️

  • @TheNoxian
    @TheNoxian 4 роки тому +335

    "Freshly grounded salt and kosher pepper"
    Me: *confused screaming*

    • @GemFramboise
      @GemFramboise 4 роки тому +2

      I hope it’s intentional 🤞 or it could be a sign of something...but i think he’s just being babish...😺

    • @glavxy7743
      @glavxy7743 4 роки тому +2

      SMOODTAKER

    • @mr.100rupees3
      @mr.100rupees3 4 роки тому +4

      Just go to your local salt lake or salt mine

    • @SenthilKumar-hi4oc
      @SenthilKumar-hi4oc 4 роки тому

      Time stamp

  • @That1Skript
    @That1Skript 4 роки тому +328

    I'M MAKING MAC AND CHEESE
    AND NOBODY CAN STOP ME

    • @GoobyOoby2702
      @GoobyOoby2702 4 роки тому +2

      HELL YEAH! I HOPE IT TASTES GREAT!!!!!

    • @Flare1
      @Flare1 4 роки тому +15

      the replies not getting this meme

    • @decades5125
      @decades5125 4 роки тому +2

      You mad lad

    • @edlomaja1171
      @edlomaja1171 4 роки тому

      🤠

    • @g.s.5110
      @g.s.5110 4 роки тому +1

      Ironically enough, my real name is Nobody.

  • @greggall205
    @greggall205 4 роки тому +3810

    Don't buy pre-shredded cheese. Make America grate again!

    • @gena7359
      @gena7359 4 роки тому +18

      😂😂😂

    • @velocity8592
      @velocity8592 4 роки тому +57

      Surely it can’t get any cheddar right?

    • @A.J.920
      @A.J.920 4 роки тому +43

      that was damn gouda joke

    • @diora266
      @diora266 4 роки тому +7

      Hufflebud cheese

    • @nabongobong9155
      @nabongobong9155 4 роки тому +36

      @@A.J.920 a goudamn joke

  • @EML441
    @EML441 3 роки тому +10

    I am literally so far South that if you were to try to go any further South you are walking into the Gulf of Mexico and I have NEVER had Mac and Cheese with eggs in it...believe me I am deeply disappointed I have not.
    That looked amazing!

    • @BlitzStorm
      @BlitzStorm 3 роки тому +1

      More a south eastern thing, least it is here in South Carolina.

  • @ValeriaGonzalez-ny7us
    @ValeriaGonzalez-ny7us 4 роки тому +88

    This is my brain 🥚
    This is my brain when Andrew said “Freshly ground salt and Kosher pepper” 🍳

  • @dhiyauddinatiq737
    @dhiyauddinatiq737 4 роки тому +391

    Babish : makes some delicious cheesy mac and cheese
    Me : *cries in lactose intolerant*

    • @jakeh_13
      @jakeh_13 4 роки тому +14

      i was lactose intolerant but since i just kept eating lactose i’m not lactose intolerant anymore

    • @paulvanderendt1911
      @paulvanderendt1911 4 роки тому +3

      Andrew is also lactose intolerant

    • @pattyzemar5192
      @pattyzemar5192 4 роки тому +4

      Check out julien Solomita’s channel. I’m pretty sure he made a dairy free Mac and cheese.

    • @darkreddust2135
      @darkreddust2135 4 роки тому +2

      Isn't there som kind of lactose free cheese/milk this works with?

    • @Bug47096
      @Bug47096 4 роки тому +4

      *cries in poor and can't afford the ingredients*

  • @AGENT2severe
    @AGENT2severe 4 роки тому +99

    “Freshly ground salt and kosher pepper” made me feel like I was having a stroke

  • @russellpeffer7736
    @russellpeffer7736 2 роки тому +2

    The only channel where I don't skip the intro. I get excited that something fun is in store for me.

  • @cassidyfranklin9287
    @cassidyfranklin9287 4 роки тому +176

    Listening to his voice is becoming my nightly routine.

  • @kimberlymarsh9687
    @kimberlymarsh9687 4 роки тому +306

    Me with a box of kraft:
    *you know the rules, and so do I*

  • @WJonesK_S
    @WJonesK_S 4 роки тому +199

    Holy shit your last recipe is SO CLOSE to my grandma's. Difference being she added the eggs before the milk and cheese and used paprika, then topped the casserole with cubes of butter for extra flavor. I was hoping you'd do a southern version. You rock.

    • @morganbrown392
      @morganbrown392 2 роки тому +12

      My mom and grandma does Mac and cheese the same way. Those southern roots stick around lol

  • @p90pdack68
    @p90pdack68 2 роки тому +1

    I realized after years of making different Mac and cheese recipes that I like the Mornay sauce with elements of the southern recipe. More smoky flavors, mustard, no eggs! And def using Gruyère. That’s a whole nother level

  • @5mft
    @5mft 4 роки тому +854

    Babish: I’m lactose intolerant
    Also Babish: Let’s eat the cheesiest Mac and cheese ever
    Me: Tf?

    • @JMD3M410
      @JMD3M410 4 роки тому +34

      There's drugs that solve that

    • @5mft
      @5mft 4 роки тому +25

      JMD3M410 was a joke - ye ik he takes them pills

    • @Prysewhert
      @Prysewhert 4 роки тому +10

      most cheese is lactose free

    • @rainyjelly
      @rainyjelly 4 роки тому +24

      @@Prysewhert ? cheese is made from milk. milk is lactose.

    • @rainyjelly
      @rainyjelly 4 роки тому +21

      my cousin is lactose intolerant and will still eat an entire tub of icecream.

  • @rosekat1102
    @rosekat1102 4 роки тому +77

    "How much cheese for mac'n cheese?"
    Babish: "yes"

    • @AngharadMac
      @AngharadMac 4 роки тому +3

      Yes is always the answer for how much cheese

  • @xredp4nda-152
    @xredp4nda-152 4 роки тому +368

    "over did it with the mozzarella"? lmao who says that?

    • @boa_firebrand
      @boa_firebrand 4 роки тому +6

      there's no such thing and to say otherwise one must allergic or a heretic.

    • @MercurialIris
      @MercurialIris 4 роки тому +3

      boa c or someone who gets the cheese shits.

    • @andrewduan5123
      @andrewduan5123 4 роки тому +7

      Frank Feliz I’m now calling being lactose intolerant “getting the cheese shits”

    • @jamesiyer4937
      @jamesiyer4937 4 роки тому

      That's impossible

  • @user-ez7hf3fo9c
    @user-ez7hf3fo9c 3 роки тому +85

    so basically, Trisha didn't use any kind of seasoning in her version lol

  • @akialamalaika
    @akialamalaika 4 роки тому +4852

    His girlfriend is living the life rn-

    • @princesssookeh
      @princesssookeh 4 роки тому +95

      right?!

    • @R3dacted_1
      @R3dacted_1 4 роки тому +33

      princesssookeh right

    • @kayleebrown2921
      @kayleebrown2921 4 роки тому +30

      @@R3dacted_1 right

    • @R3dacted_1
      @R3dacted_1 4 роки тому +9

      Kaylee Brown right

    • @2350CST
      @2350CST 4 роки тому +192

      \XYZ\ he was about to go on a full musical number, but the assassins took him out before it started

  • @NekogamiKun127
    @NekogamiKun127 4 роки тому +367

    "Freshly ground salt and kosher pepper"
    Wait, that's illegal.

    • @psilopsychic
      @psilopsychic 4 роки тому +2

      I don’t get it

    • @jamesiyer4937
      @jamesiyer4937 4 роки тому +10

      The FDA will be after him for committing a-salt

    • @aolian3
      @aolian3 4 роки тому +4

      Cyrius read what penguin said again but slower
      Or you must be new

    • @psilopsychic
      @psilopsychic 4 роки тому

      Vivien Yeah I’m new lmao

    • @hammskie05
      @hammskie05 4 роки тому +10

      @@psilopsychic it's ok, the running gag is that he always uses "freshly ground pepper and kosher salt"

  • @biglineman34
    @biglineman34 4 роки тому +177

    Should've been
    "First goes the shells
    Then goes the sauce
    Then we give it all a really nice toss"

    • @awgrant
      @awgrant 4 роки тому +6

      alt last line “Then we give it all a nice tossy toss” ~Brad Leone

    • @turnerguidry3537
      @turnerguidry3537 4 роки тому +1

      Give it a good ol’ rub

    • @imjustariceguy
      @imjustariceguy 4 роки тому

      Turner Guidry is that an Ainsley reference?

  • @gomalley411
    @gomalley411 18 днів тому

    I made the southern style Mac and cheese for my family this past Christmas. I forgot the Parmesan on top, but added bacon bits to compensate and my family loved it! Gonna try making it again soon. Thanks Babish!

  • @trentonjames5383
    @trentonjames5383 4 роки тому +360

    Babish: see what happens it sits for five minutes
    Me:your mac cheese last on the plate for 5 minutes?

  • @ames5405
    @ames5405 4 роки тому +225

    “Freshly ground salt and kosher pepper” made me physically flinch.

  • @Bulleht
    @Bulleht 4 роки тому +361

    This will be my last meal, I promise you.
    I'm lactose intolerant.

    • @michellec6968
      @michellec6968 4 роки тому +28

      My dairy allergy be like:
      Don't be shy, crap yourself

    • @Silentgrace11
      @Silentgrace11 4 роки тому +4

      Me, as a drink a glass of milk from a local dairy despite lactose intolerance: honesty? Same.

    • @asepsisaficionado7376
      @asepsisaficionado7376 4 роки тому

      Butter and most hard cheeses don't have any lactose, which includes things like parmesan and sharp cheddar. You can try using heavy cream over milk, though it still has some lactose.

    • @JustAnEmptyCageGirl
      @JustAnEmptyCageGirl 4 роки тому +1

      Some things are worth it.

  • @mouhitorinoboku9655
    @mouhitorinoboku9655 Рік тому +1

    i make baked mac and cheese with bechamel and a mixture of sharp chedder and gouda cheese, heavy cream, multi grain brown mustard, cayanne, paprika, garlic & onion powders, nutmeg, salt and black pepper. we always top it with more gouda and bread crumbs. we bake at the same temp as you. it's my sisters favorite. we call it grown up mac and cheese.