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  • @renata6002
    @renata6002 Рік тому +689

    Idk what is it about Lish's personality but I really like her approach and enthusiasm and I love when you guys do a video with her.

    • @shrimplythebest
      @shrimplythebest Рік тому +3

      I totally agree! So happy to see her featured in a video again 😊

    • @trevorwilliams3501
      @trevorwilliams3501 Рік тому +8

      I am the opposite. She is my least favorite chef. She seems very designed. A cultivated presentation/personality. She does not seem, for lack of a better word, authentic.

    • @gravity00x
      @gravity00x Рік тому +1

      🤢🤮 lol no

    • @V1ralB1ack
      @V1ralB1ack Рік тому +3

      she's fun and adorable 😊

    • @jbrown26501
      @jbrown26501 Рік тому +3

      I totally agree she is so sweet and like you’re learning from a good friend. I love how she makes me feel like I’m a pro!

  • @funkyspacecow
    @funkyspacecow Рік тому +334

    "Hello lover" as she spreads the crunchy topping and cheese on the dish made my day! I love the sheer joy Chef Lish is expressing throughout this video, hope to see more of her on the channel!

    • @alexashton6501
      @alexashton6501 Рік тому +15

      Find someone to date that talks to you when they see you the way Lish talks about putting breadcrumbs on mac n cheese

    • @hollowpoint45acp
      @hollowpoint45acp Рік тому +1

      The crunch ruins it

    • @wesley907
      @wesley907 11 днів тому

      Best part of the commentary!!!! hahahaha

  • @christophervelimahitopoulo8560
    @christophervelimahitopoulo8560 25 днів тому +14

    Restaurant-Style Mac and Cheese Recipe
    Ingredients
    Béchamel (Cheese Sauce):
    1 stick (1/2 cup) unsalted butter
    1 medium onion, finely diced
    Salt, to taste
    1/2 cup all-purpose flour
    4 3/4 cups milk
    1/8 tsp cayenne pepper
    2 cups grated medium Cheddar cheese (reserve 1/3 for topping)
    2 cups grated Gruyere cheese (reserve 1/3 for topping)
    Pasta:
    1 lb elbow macaroni
    Salt, for pasta water
    Crunchy Topping:
    1 cup panko breadcrumbs
    1 cup grated Parmigiano Reggiano cheese
    Salt, to taste
    Olive oil, to moisten
    Instructions
    1. Prepare the Béchamel (Cheese Sauce)
    In a heavy-bottom pot, melt the butter over medium heat.
    Add diced onion and a pinch of salt, cooking until translucent.
    Stir in flour, cooking for 2 minutes while stirring constantly.
    Add cayenne pepper, then slowly whisk in milk, ensuring a smooth sauce.
    Cook, stirring often, until the sauce thickens (about 5 minutes).
    Add 2/3 of the Cheddar and Gruyere cheeses, stirring until melted. Taste and add salt as needed.
    2. Cook the Pasta
    Boil pasta in salted water for 2-3 minutes less than package instructions (pasta will finish cooking in the sauce).
    Drain and add pasta directly into the cheese sauce, stirring to coat.
    3. Assemble and Add Toppings
    Preheat oven to 400°F (200°C).
    Pour mac and cheese into a buttered baking dish.
    Sprinkle reserved Cheddar and Gruyere over the pasta.
    In a bowl, mix panko, Parmigiano Reggiano, salt, and olive oil. Spread evenly over the cheese.
    4. Bake and Serve
    Bake for 20 minutes until golden brown and bubbly.
    Let rest for 5 minutes before serving. Enjoy your restaurant-style mac and cheese!

    • @prstark1
      @prstark1 25 днів тому +3

      Excellent. Thank you.

    • @md.rosado
      @md.rosado 6 днів тому

      You da best!!!

  • @samsonchan7496
    @samsonchan7496 Рік тому +297

    I love the chef's enthusiasm for the dish she's making, and really helps the dish looking amazingly delicious as well

    • @TheMrCC21
      @TheMrCC21 Рік тому +2

      She's done food styling for magazines and commercials. Look up the video where she breaks it all down. It's quite interesting.

    • @Professor-Scientist
      @Professor-Scientist Рік тому +3

      @@TheMrCC21 I have done a great deal of research on this woman and my findings suggest she is in fact quite interesting.

    • @rgwak
      @rgwak Рік тому +1

      She called the mac and cheese, "lover." 😍

  • @Ozzborn85
    @Ozzborn85 Рік тому +94

    Well, it's already all over the comments, but I'm gonna say it anyway - chef Lish is probably the single best addition to the channel! Her love for the ingredients and pure joy of cooking is so infectious. Really gives me the inspiration to be the best home cook I can be!

    • @JeffreytaylorICT
      @JeffreytaylorICT Рік тому +1

      I can't believe I just discovered her. Love her!

  • @jonathany9519
    @jonathany9519 Рік тому +23

    She’s fantastic !! I love how she points out how to know when something is done and how she knows the reason behind each element of the recipe. Love her personality !!

  • @xoxobrialee
    @xoxobrialee Рік тому +115

    “Thicken, sexy, and begging for cheese.” This will 100% be on my headstone, thanks Lish!

    • @Professor-Scientist
      @Professor-Scientist Рік тому +5

      As a Chinese woman scientist and author of book 'Women scientists in the Qing Dynasty'
      I would absolutely love this to be on my gravestone, it really encapsulates my life in one sweet sentence. I'm looking forward to dying now.

    • @johrathbun
      @johrathbun Рік тому

      I'm just begging for more Lish!

  • @artemislunanettybecker8641
    @artemislunanettybecker8641 Рік тому +29

    You can tell from the way she's so enthusiastic about the food and the way she describes the food and the ingredients, you can tell not only does she love what she does but she enjoys eating food. I loved her since the first video I saw with her! Bring more Chef Lish! (I want her to cook for me xD)

  • @Owens777
    @Owens777 Рік тому +136

    Lish takes it from "made with love" to "makin love" with this dish. Ultimate food foreplay here 😆

  • @scotthenkel2833
    @scotthenkel2833 Рік тому +13

    since I'm not seeing a link to a full recipe, any idea how much cheddar and gruyere goes in this dish? All the other ingredients are pretty much provided in the video.
    I can't wait to try this recipe. I've been searching for a perfect mac and cheese recipe for a long time and this is it.

  • @Shrimphandler
    @Shrimphandler 8 місяців тому +2

    I just want to say that I’ve made this macaroni about ten times and it’s blown out every possible dish in its vicinity. Thank you so much for sharing this recipe 🥹

  • @todd3167
    @todd3167 Рік тому +27

    "This is not for the faint of heart..." I think it's for the people who love good food! The recipe is similar to one I use and it looks delicious. Lish looks like she's having a great time making this. More videos from her please!

  • @annsmith7207
    @annsmith7207 Рік тому +10

    More Lish videos, please! She is just terrific and explains everything very well!

  • @johngaron9169
    @johngaron9169 Рік тому +7

    Is there a way to get a printed copy of the recipe? Would like to know the amounts of Chedder, Gruyere, cayenne pepper, panko.

  • @kauedg
    @kauedg Рік тому +6

    I don't add the chopped onion, here's how I do it:
    Get half of an onion and pin bay leaves on it using 5 or 6 cloves. Put it in the milk and heat it just before it starts to boil. Then just use as in the video, NEVER make a bechamel with cold milk.
    The milk smells amazing and gets nicely seasoned without that strong onion taste.

    • @ohemmaAna
      @ohemmaAna Рік тому

      Oh interesting method!

  • @AQuickBite
    @AQuickBite Рік тому +6

    I really like how to break the dish down to "chapters" to talk people through the different parts of the dish.
    Really nice way to do this type of video, thanks!

  • @thembill8246
    @thembill8246 Рік тому +21

    I might go for cavatappi instead of elbow. It just holds onto sauce amazingly well, and gives a bit more noodly bite. also if cut out the breadcrumbs for more crispy cheese instead on top.

    • @faithmoir1637
      @faithmoir1637 Рік тому +2

      i love cavatappi in my mac! imo it needs to be the default for mac n cheese recipes, it’s so good

    • @giovanna722
      @giovanna722 Рік тому +2

      Good tip, thanks.

  • @GeologicFM
    @GeologicFM 6 місяців тому

    This is one of my favorite UA-cam channels because the cooks they show always seem so upbeat and lighthearted yet passionate about food. I have yet to see the snobbishness we associate with chefs.

  • @JAA87
    @JAA87 Рік тому +40

    Omg!! Chef, i worked for you at Giada at The Cromwell.. you are an incredible chef💐💐🥰🙏

  • @KeiFlox
    @KeiFlox Рік тому +6

    Yet another fan of Lish here! Hope to see more of her from this channel.

  • @jcampbell100
    @jcampbell100 Рік тому +6

    Looks so good. I love lots of sauce. I like to cook my pasta in the milk and add the cooked butter, flour, onion to it. The pasta thickens the milk then I add the cheese. I have taken to cooking pasta in the sauce really makes a difference.

    • @marsjacks
      @marsjacks Рік тому +1

      this sounds so yummy, i need to try cooking the pasta in the sauce!

  • @johnweimer3249
    @johnweimer3249 Рік тому +2

    The perfect classic macaroni and cheese with crunchy topping. My only personal addition is a little white pepper and a dash of Worcestershire sauce. sometimes I prefer jalapeño flakes over Cayenne pepper, but any spicy pepper you love will be perfect like a great Turkish Maras chili flake for some smokiness or an Aleppo chili flake for its brightness. Love your videos.

  • @gmork.
    @gmork. Рік тому +11

    She's great! I'll be keeping my eye out for more recipes from her.

  • @abuhamza1970
    @abuhamza1970 Рік тому +4

    Love the video and the amazing enthusiasm and joy Alisha brings to her cooking.
    Personally imho, I would like it with a bit more runny sauce at the end

  • @carebear91
    @carebear91 Рік тому +6

    The only thing I would add is a touch of nutmeg to the bechamel and freshly cracked pepper in the crumb. Also a bit of chopped parsley on top for a little bit of contrast. :) otherwise a truly beautiful Mac and cheese. Sincerely, a foodie Texan mama. 😋

  • @rose4961
    @rose4961 Рік тому +7

    This lady's energy is addicting!

  • @arturoperez3826
    @arturoperez3826 Рік тому +11

    I really enjoy her presence! She’s awesome!

  • @creedor
    @creedor 4 місяці тому

    She’s one of my favorite chefs on UA-cam!❤️

  • @xenon8117
    @xenon8117 Рік тому +3

    Lish! Always love seeing her in these videos.

  • @AlexandruVoda
    @AlexandruVoda Рік тому +4

    I made this recipe after watching this video and having my mouth water.
    On the bright side, while it is hot it is absolutely delicious. The onion really adds savoriness. The combination of textures is awesome and it is full of cheesy goodness.
    However, this is a dish that should be good when cooled and hardened too. And unfortunately after it cools the onion taste is overwhelming.

  • @t-momusic
    @t-momusic Рік тому +14

    I was wanting to see more of this professional chef after her french toast, cookies, and roast chicken recipes in the home cook and chef switch ingredients!

  • @debbiestott3651
    @debbiestott3651 Рік тому +3

    This looks so good. I will definitely try it. Do you think mustard powder instead of cayenne as my grandson doesn't like hot spice?

  • @LeahCarter
    @LeahCarter Рік тому +13

    We need more chef lish!

  • @lucascerqueira202
    @lucascerqueira202 Рік тому +15

    Chef Lish is awesome! The dish looks so delicious

  • @tehBrymann
    @tehBrymann Рік тому +8

    I use crushed browned Ritz crackers for my breadcrumbs. Haven't added onions to my béchamel, but it's worth a try.

    • @thembill8246
      @thembill8246 Рік тому +1

      Ooh, that's a good idea!

    • @jcampbell100
      @jcampbell100 Рік тому +1

      @@thembill8246 Good Idea and onions take it up a notch if you like them.

    • @SincerelyLexy
      @SincerelyLexy Рік тому

      I’m used to this. In the Caribbean we make “macaroni pies” which is just a firmer macaroni and cheese. Onions are a must! (Along with other peppers) Super good.

  • @_Toxicity
    @_Toxicity Рік тому +15

    I usually use Muenster, but I'll see how Gruyere works next time! I also like a splash of fresh parsley on top of mine after it's all done baking.

  • @Quinn-Harrison
    @Quinn-Harrison Рік тому +3

    I love kraft sharp chedder cheese box mac and cheese with mozzarella cheese mixed in the most and idc who judges me for it! Maybe some breadcrumbs on top. Best thing to eat when you just want something fast and good and if you can handle dairy pretty well. Get home tired, make this, and my stomach is happy. If we're talking for an event or etc then yea baked macaroni is good. I'm just saying the best mac and cheese I've had xD

  • @MelissaFranklin-lf6go
    @MelissaFranklin-lf6go Рік тому

    i loved the way she explained everything, lovely tones to her voice, soothing and not rushing. loved the mac and cheese dish, got all ingred, cooking for myself for supper. i def want to watch her do other dishes. im in a a village in england and just found this site.😀

  • @TPark-rf3lt
    @TPark-rf3lt Рік тому +12

    More videos with Chef Lish!!! This was great! So fun 😀

  • @ravenoftheredsky
    @ravenoftheredsky Рік тому

    This may sound obvious to some, but if you grate or chop a lot, definitely get a food processor. My prep has been transformed because of it, just be sure you get one big enough and easy to clean. Super easy hash brown prep, and exactly what you want to grate multiple cheeses quickly

  • @Amnachaidh
    @Amnachaidh Рік тому +2

    Very much enjoyed the video. Chef Lish and her enthusiasm are a see lovely way to wind up the day!

  • @kirkmialaakso3100
    @kirkmialaakso3100 Рік тому +3

    Made this tonight adding imitation crab and substituting smoked gouda instead of greyere. It was fantastic, great recipe!

  • @pamcollins1571
    @pamcollins1571 26 днів тому +2

    Where can we find the full recipe with quantities of ingredients please

  • @ohemmaAna
    @ohemmaAna Рік тому +9

    This is how I make my Mac! I love it, but I’m definitely going to try the parm and oil in my next panco top layer, that sounds bomb af

    • @tullymunro7696
      @tullymunro7696 Рік тому +2

      Throw in a lil garlic and parsley next time too if you like garlic for a little kick of freshness! A local restaurant does that on theirs and it's all good!

  • @elchanfle20
    @elchanfle20 Рік тому +2

    hello. congratulations to the whole team for producing these excellent videos. One question, could you share the camera and lenses you use? Thank you!

  • @josephblake8418
    @josephblake8418 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic video of a fantastic dish, presented by a fantastic teacher. Very, very much obliged!

  • @jack-wilder
    @jack-wilder Рік тому +3

    Perfection. My mom would do almost exactly this and add sliced tomatoes on top with breadcrumbs on top then bake.

  • @ryank5350
    @ryank5350 Рік тому +9

    As a Wisconsite myself, I approve of this recipe. Definitely going to try this.

    • @Professor-Scientist
      @Professor-Scientist Рік тому +2

      As a Chinese woman scientist and author of book 'Women scientists in the Qing Dynasty'
      I also approve of this recipe and will try within the next few days.

  • @bflogal18
    @bflogal18 Рік тому +17

    I usually add a teaspoon or two of Dijon mustard to my cheese sauce. I like the slight tangy bite it makes.

    • @xxPenjoxx
      @xxPenjoxx Рік тому +4

      Same! She used cayenne but I'm definitely sticking to dijon in my cheese sauce, it's the best 👌

    • @_Toxicity
      @_Toxicity Рік тому +2

      YES!

  • @kueller917
    @kueller917 Рік тому

    The oven baking really is what takes it above and beyond. I always miss it since I don't have an oven in my apartment so I end it after the pot is done. I haven't tried onions though so I'll have to use those next time.

  • @weston.weston
    @weston.weston Рік тому +3

    This recipe looks delish! The host seems to make cooking fun and she is a great presenter.
    I wonder how this recipe would work if I added spinach and mushrooms (I try to get in my vegs whenever I can) and ate it as a one dish meal.
    What do you all think?

    • @alalalala57
      @alalalala57 Рік тому

      Omg, I'd love those additions personally. Tho maybe wilt the spinach before? Idk lol.

    • @weston.weston
      @weston.weston Рік тому

      @@alalalala57 Thanks so much! Trying to figure which vegs would work well with this recipe.

    • @maxlutz3674
      @maxlutz3674 Рік тому

      Only one way to find out. Mushrooms work well, so do carrots and bell peppers or chillies. It´s no longer classic. Who cares when it tastes good.
      I would not add spinach for a long baking time. That should not keep you from trying.

    • @Diana-qp2rw
      @Diana-qp2rw Рік тому

      Great idea. Mushrooms would be amazing, I think, spinach probably not so much, but you could prepare it in a sauté pan while the pasta is in the oven and serve it on the side - or mix it in after baking.
      I think broccoli or cauliflower might worm very well, too, I think I’m gonna try these two with mushrooms because I always need some veggies with my food. But it might be a good idea to reduce the amount of pasta, depending on how much veggies you add.

  • @thomasr5121
    @thomasr5121 Рік тому +1

    Amazing recipe! Thank you for sharing this my family is going to love this!

  • @forevermenot777
    @forevermenot777 2 дні тому

    So yummy! And if you're looking to amp up the savory on this, add mushrooms five minutes after you add the onions (before the flour) -- and you're welcome in advance! ;)

  • @2009cochinos
    @2009cochinos Рік тому +2

    Wow loved your presentation. Can't wait to try and make your version.

  • @estebangomez6941
    @estebangomez6941 Рік тому +1

    Your recipe is amazing thanks for sharing!!

  • @noahwalker8359
    @noahwalker8359 Рік тому +1

    It looks good and I bet I would enjoy it a lot, but the Danni Rose channel makes a better version. I'm in the camp that breadcrumbs are not completely necessary, although you can't go wrong with either with or without. It's more about how you make the béchamel both creamy and seasoned, the cheese on top is spread as evenly as possible, and my ideal temp is at 400 degrees for 40 minutes.

  • @rikkimontero
    @rikkimontero Рік тому +2

    What an awesome teacher she is! Well done chef

  • @jbb7634
    @jbb7634 Рік тому +1

    I love this Chef and her teachings. Great job.

  • @ChefMarkyMarkz
    @ChefMarkyMarkz Рік тому +1

    She loves what she does by the way she carries herself when cooking.

  • @TashJansson
    @TashJansson Рік тому +1

    can we have 100% chef lish all of the time for everything please? ❤

  • @markh975
    @markh975 6 місяців тому

    One year later... this is, with our a doubt, my favorite tutorial on Mac and Cheese... Following Chef Lish on anything!

  • @evaphy
    @evaphy Рік тому +2

    Amazing! Soothing voice, warm personality, and damn good looking dish, PERFECT 😙👌🏼❤️

  • @SaraMartinez-su7dh
    @SaraMartinez-su7dh 10 місяців тому

    Thank you chef looks amazing and I'm going to give it a try thanks for sharing

  • @DannyYankou
    @DannyYankou Рік тому +1

    I followed a NYT recipe that was almost exactly the same as this (I used butter instead of olive oil for the breadcrumb topping and garlic in the roux) and it was amazing.

  • @lisabishop133
    @lisabishop133 Рік тому +2

    I made a 4 cheese Mac n cheese this week that my friends fought who got the last bite 😆😆😆 it really was the best 1 I have ever made! That little bit of smoked Gouda was amazing!!!

  • @mattedge5989
    @mattedge5989 Рік тому

    Lish is so lovely!! Please make more beautiful videos - this recipe has revolutionized our classic movie dinner night. Thank you.

  • @TimothyNH
    @TimothyNH 23 години тому

    Great content. How many servings would this be for a side dish?

  • @markfox6786
    @markfox6786 Рік тому +1

    This may be a stupid question but exactly much cheese did she use? Everything else was an exactly measure so...a round about would be nice. A " block" isn't quite enough details.

  • @mariochavez9963
    @mariochavez9963 Рік тому +32

    You guys can't at least put the ingredients and measurements in the description for us? Come on

  • @_Toxicity
    @_Toxicity Рік тому +1

    Welcome back Chef Lish!

  • @rogermilla2358
    @rogermilla2358 Рік тому +1

    This looks absolutely De-Lish!

  • @tvdinner325
    @tvdinner325 Рік тому +1

    Looks delicious. Thank you.

  • @tammyhong159
    @tammyhong159 Рік тому +1

    I loved it when she won Chopped. Still my favourite episode ever👏✌️🇨🇦

  • @EchoSigma6
    @EchoSigma6 Рік тому

    Oh my, that looks perfect for a chilly autumn night.

  • @karentaylor2160
    @karentaylor2160 Рік тому +1

    Where has this lady been hiding, more of her, please & yes, the dish I will make, good for you Chef!

  • @bmovie5002
    @bmovie5002 8 місяців тому

    My new fav chef. Fantastic.

  • @Lettuce-and-Tomatoes
    @Lettuce-and-Tomatoes Рік тому +1

    This fellow’s recipe looks great!

  • @ctcamara
    @ctcamara Рік тому +1

    I just live this chef's energy! 😊

  • @matgggg55
    @matgggg55 Рік тому

    I came here to say how I love her personality but seems I’m not the first with this opinion. She just seems so nice and genuine you want to be friends with her. The recipe was ok very traditional, I think their are better methods though. Still very much enjoyed

  • @joerob5555
    @joerob5555 Рік тому +2

    I like her since of humor when she explains things😊

  • @ThyMousa
    @ThyMousa Місяць тому

    Just made this !!! Absolutely delicious!!

  • @keithtaylor1531
    @keithtaylor1531 6 місяців тому

    She did a fantastic job. Love her style

  • @RaskylC
    @RaskylC Рік тому +1

    im curious of smoked cheeses for M&C,. i love smoked Gouda so much but i wonder if it would work instead of cheddar

  • @kristidaemon4709
    @kristidaemon4709 Рік тому +1

    Going to make it sometime! I love chef's bright, cheerful personality :) and dish sounds delish

  • @zelphiaellerson6283
    @zelphiaellerson6283 Рік тому

    Love Chef Lish!!!! The crunchy topping is going on my next attempt at Mac and Cheese. I did get distracted by her shirt. Paint swatches? Fabric swatches? Designed to tease?

  • @sherrymejia5759
    @sherrymejia5759 Рік тому +1

    Great personality when cooking !!!!😊😊

  • @rjsmind
    @rjsmind Рік тому +1

    Someday shes going to be the greatest grandma in existance

  • @susandooley9630
    @susandooley9630 Рік тому

    Wisconsin for cheese?? My son was a truck driver & would deliver Tillamook cheese, from Oregon to Wisconsin!!! Especially the sharp white cheddar…YUM!!!

  • @nevadatan7323
    @nevadatan7323 Рік тому

    Colemans English Mustard Powder (nope it doesnt make it hot, just enriches the cheese flavour)
    Slight amount of cracked black pepper (again, enriches the cheese... dont add too much)
    Crushed potato chips, cheddar, shredded mozarella cheese on top
    You're welcome 😌✌️

  • @NextToToddliness
    @NextToToddliness Рік тому +1

    Lish needs to be protected at all costs.

  • @sptrader9066
    @sptrader9066 Рік тому

    "Hello lover!" Lol. Made with love, and it shows, and tastes, I'm sure.

  • @plantlady65
    @plantlady65 Рік тому +1

    Love your video! Your written recipe please.

  • @daffodilrose1950
    @daffodilrose1950 Рік тому +1

    Omg…..I love mac&cheese…….❤️ Great video!

  • @mwinton1986
    @mwinton1986 Рік тому +5

    Cheese sauce needs mustard it just works so well, I also prefer adding raw finely sliced spring onions at the end to give that gentle onion hum. My legendary Mac n cheese has spring onion, chopped jalapeños and golden smokey bacon chunks, so damn tasty!

  • @AaronBenjBrown
    @AaronBenjBrown 3 дні тому

    This is similar to what I make, I had a little bit of nutmeg as well and I always add some pasta water

  • @JohnHausser
    @JohnHausser Рік тому +2

    Add 🦞/🦀 meats on it and the results will be 15/10
    Cheers from San Diego California

  • @joes5904
    @joes5904 11 місяців тому

    Love your video and recipe, but why no way to print recipe? Are we supposed to write down everything you present over the 7 mintes? All the best, but recipe link I cannot find. If there is one please let us know where.

  • @tiramitchell324
    @tiramitchell324 Рік тому +1

    Love videos with lish ❤

  • @thegymtiger
    @thegymtiger Рік тому +2

    I see Chef Lish, I click.

  • @mattbk1yn
    @mattbk1yn Рік тому

    Can I prep it the day before and then put it in the oven day of? Any idea how that would affect cooking time?