What Cheese makes the best Mac & Cheese?

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  • Опубліковано 19 тра 2024
  • Today, I want to answer a question I’ve been wondering about for years, and that is What cheese makes the best Mac & cheese?
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  • @VIP-ry6vv
    @VIP-ry6vv 6 місяців тому +1528

    Gonna need a part 2 boss. The other three variables are interesting.

    • @ResistorMike
      @ResistorMike 6 місяців тому +41

      Definitely. Would love to see how a straight medium/sharp cheddar with just milk and sodium citrate stacks up

    • @crystalrowan
      @crystalrowan 6 місяців тому +8

      Yup, got to agree. There's a LOT more research to be done here. :D

    • @TheDonSapius
      @TheDonSapius 6 місяців тому +2

      Yes please!

    • @bgleadbetter
      @bgleadbetter 6 місяців тому +1

      Yep. Don’t leave us hanging!!

    • @Rogi_Pogee
      @Rogi_Pogee 6 місяців тому +7

      We need a finale video of him finding the "best" mac and cheese

  • @EzraTF2
    @EzraTF2 6 місяців тому +1372

    I love that Ethan blindfolded himself during the second tasting when he chose not to shuffle the samples around because he already knows which Mac n cheese is which and he already knows what they look like because he made them. All he did was make it much harder for himself to eat, and it doesn't help that each container started off closed LOL
    To all the people saying that it's a texture thing, he could have just closed his eyes after putting the Mac n cheese in his mouth lol

    • @corruptedpanda7664
      @corruptedpanda7664 6 місяців тому +89

      bro i was wondering who else would notice

    • @Fr0z3nFL4mE
      @Fr0z3nFL4mE 6 місяців тому +136

      I do think that getting rid of the visual aspect of eating makes you really focus on the taste. But yes, it really just made it harder for him to eat as he struggled trying to get a spoonful of pasta out of each container haha.

    • @Urally
      @Urally 6 місяців тому +4

      EXACTLY

    • @Mozenator
      @Mozenator 6 місяців тому +11

      My wife and I laughed our asses off to this

    • @the8thark
      @the8thark 6 місяців тому +31

      Blindfolding himself them was an important step. It removes one sense (sight). He was also mostly quiet while eating so that is sense #2 gone. That leaves his brain to solely focus on the taste and texture. The 5th sense, smell was there but he can mostly ignore that and focus on the taste and touch/texture.
      Also going in order means he could really focus in on the differences going up up the % cheddar scale.
      Yes it made it harder for him to eat but him doing this helped him a lot to get a better understanding of the taste and texture of each.

  • @nfrandom3701
    @nfrandom3701 6 місяців тому +626

    I totally would love a 10 part documentary series on how to make the perfect Mac and cheese

    • @daveweinstein5044
      @daveweinstein5044 6 місяців тому +20

      yes, covering baked options as well as stovetop, and don't spam me for saying it, perhaps even reviewing BOX and frozen options.

    • @gamesaregood9904
      @gamesaregood9904 6 місяців тому +3

      I was just thinking this lol

    • @webharom
      @webharom 6 місяців тому +4

      how can I thumbs up twice

    • @SlentVce
      @SlentVce 6 місяців тому

      @@daveweinstein5044 some frozen options can hit on a lazy day fr

    • @Daveeeeeeyhowyoudoing
      @Daveeeeeeyhowyoudoing 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@webharomuse two different UA-cam accounts

  • @somefreshbread
    @somefreshbread 6 місяців тому +312

    Every time Ethan takes a bite I swear he's training to break a record of some kind.

    • @michaelmaragni1505
      @michaelmaragni1505 5 місяців тому +15

      Every single time

    • @monhi64
      @monhi64 5 місяців тому +23

      His bites stress me out. That looks like an overwhelming amount of food, I mean the chances of choking on bites that size has to be like 4x

  • @Just_a_commenter
    @Just_a_commenter 6 місяців тому +454

    Ethan, you couldn't have come out with this at a better time for me. I haven't made mac and cheese in a while and I was planning to do it this weekend, so I'll be putting this knowledge to test! >:D

    • @1ute
      @1ute 6 місяців тому +15

      What do you call an fake noodle?
      An impasta >:D

    • @Vid_Master
      @Vid_Master 6 місяців тому +2

      my dog LOVES CHEESE!!!!!!!

    • @cmansour
      @cmansour 3 місяці тому

      What did you think of Ethan's recipe? I like baking my mac n cheese with a Ritz cracker topping. I'm thinking that using equal parts of evaporated milk/cheese with pasta isn't cheesy/liquidy enough? Please let me know if you think I should amp up the liquid/cheese ratio. My son does love a super saucy mac n cheese.

    • @johnclarke1319
      @johnclarke1319 2 місяці тому

      use real cream cheddar and gouda. steer clear of Kraft chemical cheeses

  • @Furluge
    @Furluge 6 місяців тому +114

    So first off I wanted to say that I really appreciate you doing a test with Velveeta and sharp cheddar here. I know lots of us keyboard warriors online are going to scream "Just go buy some sodium citrate!" But I think using a mix of a processed cheese, like American or Velveeta, just makes it so much more accessible. It really adds a LOT of versatility to have the recipe be all things you can find in your local grocery store rather than something you will have to special order.
    Now, that said, I definitely WOULD like to see some of these sauces tested against sauce of xtra sharp cheddar, sodium citrate, and liquid. In fact I'd really like to see a test of water vs milk vs evaporated milk in that test. I have some sodium citrate, and you use so little of it that once you've got it you are set for a while; but I'd really like to know just *how* much benefit is it to use sodium citrate vs mixing with a processed cheese. Is there any benefit?
    Please, make that video for us. We really want to know the answers.

    • @ThermiteKitty
      @ThermiteKitty 5 місяців тому +5

      +1 on wanting this video! I personally like a processed cheese blend more than all "real cheese" + sodium citrate, but I can't quite explain why. And it's possible that a flavouring cheese + melting cheese + sodium citrate blend might be better...but I trust Ethan to nail down the science of that one!

    • @ThermiteKitty
      @ThermiteKitty 5 місяців тому +5

      l337 A roux dilutes the cheese sauce with milk, flour and butter, and some people dislike that as much as you dislike Velveeta. You're taking up precious space, calories and flavour on a bland medium that pure cheese could occupy instead. A roux is fine for lighter cheese-included sauces or baked mac and cheese where you want more liquid at first. A processed cheese is all cheese, same with sodium citrate + real cheese.

    • @ThermiteKitty
      @ThermiteKitty 5 місяців тому +4

      l337 I mean, oil, milk protein, and whey are a lot closer to cheese than flour, even if they're not quite there *shrug*

    • @monhi64
      @monhi64 5 місяців тому +2

      Maybe we should really just buy the sodium citrate. Like I know I don’t have sodium citrate but I know it’s on Amazon and that’s hardly special ordering. And then when I think about it once you have the sodium citrate you’re set, we’d never have to buy velveeta ever again. Just using whatever you cheese you have it could be way more accessible. The one issue is I don’t love velveeta that much I get sick of it easy but idk if it’s the texture or the taste. I do know the idea of turning any tasting cheese into velveeta is very interesting to me

    • @Furluge
      @Furluge 4 місяці тому +2

      @CantStopTheSignal337 There are some videos on the difference between thickening the sauce with flour and creating an emulsion with sodium citrate. This channel has one on it. The sodium citrate cheese sauce has a smoother texture and will not break when reheated vs flour. You also have the added benefit of not adding filler carbs to your sauce.
      Also, I hate to tell you this, but processed cheese like Velveeta is just milk and cheddar bonded together with sodium citrate salt. It is basically the same thing you can make yourself with sodium citrate. If you think Velveeta tastes like plastic, then you probably don't like cheddar cheese either. Either that or you are suffering from a placebo effect.

  • @zynthio
    @zynthio 6 місяців тому +61

    My personal recipe is a mix of White Cheddar, Smoked Gouda, white American, and cream cheese. It’s super rich and flavorful, and insanely creamy. I also specifically wanted my Mac n cheese to be closer to white in color than yellow. The Gouda is the only yellow cheese I use, but it’s a smaller amount in comparison because it’s so strong in flavor. Don’t underestimate cream cheese. Add a bit to whatever other cheeses you use for an extra bump in flavor and creaminess

    • @softturtle4498
      @softturtle4498 6 місяців тому +8

      Recipe drop?

    • @kevinanderson6558
      @kevinanderson6558 5 місяців тому +1

      Do you choose mild or up to extra sharp with the white cheddar? Just curious.

    • @yakob4042
      @yakob4042 5 місяців тому

      @@kevinanderson6558white cheddar is usually only extra sharp, and with there being so many other flavors in this mac n cheese, and extra sharp cheddar would bring it all together imo

    • @LedSomeFlops
      @LedSomeFlops 3 місяці тому

      Great tip!

    • @You_Do_Care
      @You_Do_Care 2 місяці тому

      Smoked Gouda is soooooo good

  • @brucetidwell7715
    @brucetidwell7715 6 місяців тому +5

    Your problem is using evaporated milk. I use a butter/flour roux with 1/2&1/2, then add somewhere between 1/3 to 1/2 extra sharp cheddar. After I add the pasta, I finish with a tablespoon or two of heavy cream. Silky smooth with no dryness. I will say that I use grocery store Extra Sharp Cheddar (like Kraft, etc.) not an premium aged Vermont cheddar, or something like that.

  • @alexfarrell3250
    @alexfarrell3250 6 місяців тому +109

    That venn diagram is insanely helpful. If I'm making more than just a simple stovetop Mac and cheese I typically use a young cheddar, smoked Gouda, and parmigiano reggiano to balance the flavor and texture and it's an awesome mix

    • @connora88
      @connora88 6 місяців тому +3

      i always include a smoked cheese too, sometimes smoked gouda, sometimes smoked cheddar. whew! the flavor!

    • @merriemisfit8406
      @merriemisfit8406 6 місяців тому +2

      Somewhat relatedly, the combination that works best for me is sharp Cheddar, young Gouda, and Swiss. Plus, believe it or not, a touch of Limburger now and then gives a very pleasant punch-up. (Plus, it's almost like cheese-following the hypothesized migration line of the longest-known root of my family tree, from around the French Alps, up through eastern Belgium and the low countries, and across the Channel to England.) As for the relative amounts of each cheese, the ratio I always use is: MORE!

  • @RecapRico
    @RecapRico 6 місяців тому +154

    My aunt has been making her own my whole life for the holidays; I’m 28 now. She mixes multiple for a baked Mac and cheese. It’s a old recipe from her father… I went to culinary school and everything and hers is better😂🤦🏻‍♂️
    From what I know you want a of balance between thickness, pull, flavor, smoothness/silkiness, and a somewhat cheese top crunch… it’s apparently a science her father spent his life perfecting and she learned watching him hundreds of times.
    Edit: I’m so sorry to everyone asking. I don’t know the recipe at all. 😂😂ima failure ik. All Ik she makes a cheese sauce/bechamel, uses whole milk and real butter, she uses velveeta. She really only makes it for holidays like thanksgiving and Christmas.

    • @midlifemom5829
      @midlifemom5829 6 місяців тому +13

      Recipe please😊

    • @markbollinger1343
      @markbollinger1343 6 місяців тому +4

      Mate gonna need that.

    • @zlllazar
      @zlllazar 6 місяців тому +2

      What's the recipe

    • @sphoenix41
      @sphoenix41 6 місяців тому +3

      I'm surprised this doesn't have more recipes please... Recipe please 😅😊 also that is a entirely too short heart warming story

    • @ronalddevine9587
      @ronalddevine9587 6 місяців тому +1

      Please share her recipe, thanks

  • @hsfb4894
    @hsfb4894 6 місяців тому +6

    I love these videos, it feels like a behind the scenes look into the old cooks illustrated articles about their "best practice" kinda deals, but this way we can decide for ourselves what we think is best! Love it! Can't wait for a part 2

  • @Clemsonalumnus
    @Clemsonalumnus 6 місяців тому +62

    Love this one. Please do more mac and cheese with the different emulsions, comparing roux, pasta water, salts, velveta, etc. as you said at the start, as well as cheese blends. There is so much to be explored here. This video was probably your best since your burger science series.

    • @OlivierCaron
      @OlivierCaron 6 місяців тому +1

      Or a mix! I do mine with a bechamel (roux + milk) to make a Mornay, but I add sodium citrate, not too much to get that weird taste, but it's silky smooth and you get the full flavour of the cheese since there is no Velveeta or cheese slices.

  • @SuperiorCookie
    @SuperiorCookie 6 місяців тому +262

    Ethan, with Thanksgiving coming up could you experiment with a traditional baked mac n cheese that maintains the creamy gooeyness of stovetop mac? Last year I tried one w/ sodium citrate and it could be better.

    • @EthanChlebowski
      @EthanChlebowski  6 місяців тому +314

      I won't be able to get to it this year, but here is what I would try!
      1. Make stovetop mac & cheese ahead of time. Store in the fridge.
      2. Thanksgiving day, transfer the mac to a casserole dish. Pour over some evaporated or regular milk to mix in with the cold mac. Then top with cheese/breadcrumbs/bacon.
      3. Bake at 400 F until browned to your liking on top.
      I think by having the cold mac & cheese mixed with the milk it will stay super creamy as it heats up in the oven and the top browns.

    • @SuperiorCookie
      @SuperiorCookie 6 місяців тому +62

      @@EthanChlebowski Brilliant. Me & the 5lb block of white cheddar in my fridge will have a good time trying it out. Thank you for taking the time to write that!

    • @esorth
      @esorth 6 місяців тому +23

      My secret to maintaining the gooeyness is to toss butter into the pasta as soon as I've drained the water and mix it around until it melts. Something about that fat thoroughly coating the pasta keeps it from soaking up cheese liquid while baking.

    • @nchomestead7860
      @nchomestead7860 6 місяців тому +14

      The answer youre looking for is make a traditional roux based mornay sauce style mac and cheese WITH sodium citrate. And then use a stick blender and blend until it is creamy smooth. Adding the sodium citrate gives you the ooey gooey melty sauce consistency, but the roux (when properly browned) imparts way more flavor.

    • @a2ndopynyn
      @a2ndopynyn 6 місяців тому +2

      @@EthanChlebowski - I had a similar question and I like your answer. However, I also wanted to ask you about adding cream cheese into the mix. I know someone who taught me that blending cream cheese and sharp cheddar results in gooey, melty cheddar, close to Velveeta texture but a bit more firm, and the cream cheese doesn't impart any taste to the final product. What do you think of this idea? I'm planning to use 2 lbs of cheese, 2pints heavy cream, 4 tbsp butter to make a cheese sauce, pour it over a pound of elbows and bake. I'm leaving out the flour (roux) because even with the citrate (2% of cheese weight), my last cheese sauce was WAY too thick, even after I cut it with 1 cup of low sodium chicken stock. My plan was 1 lb extra sharp cheddar, 1 lb Monterey Jack. Do you think using the citrate, or using an 8 oz block of Philly cream cheese, would be a better idea? Sorry for the longish post, but I wanted to be sure you had all the info so you could answer me. Love the channel. Thanks!

  • @Safe97
    @Safe97 6 місяців тому +22

    I've played around with this over the years. For me, a big thing was also for the sauce to stay liquid for as long as possible, as quite often as soon as it cools it starts to seize up.
    I initially started with a 50 / 50 cheddar:american, but realised I just prefer the flavour of cheddar so much more, and the only thing american cheese contributed was the sodium citrate anyway.
    So now I do a recipe that's 90% cheddar with 10% pecorino/parmigiano, and emulsify it in milk with a combination of sodium citrate and cornflour. This way I get a very smooth cheese sauce that stays liquid for a long while, whilst providing a lot of nice cheesy flavour.

    • @ryanodette461
      @ryanodette461 6 місяців тому

      how much cornflour do you use?

    • @canadianeh4792
      @canadianeh4792 6 місяців тому

      I do a similar thing. It's a great way to use up cheese rinds too as they have loads of flavour but are nearly inedible unless you melt them into something. Try doing it exactly the same but with blue cheese on steaks and burgers.

    • @Krydax8
      @Krydax8 Місяць тому

      Another important thing that I don't think he mentioned (might have missed it) is how much the sodium citrate helps with REHEATING. When you have the sodium citrate + evaporated milk combo, mac n cheese reheats SO much better in the microwave.

  • @CyanPhoenix_
    @CyanPhoenix_ 6 місяців тому +11

    I'd love a second video about emulsifiers! I have a bag of sodium citrate that I've been using pretty effectively for my mac n cheeses, would be great to know the variances on ratios and/or if there are better options.

  • @ericbader
    @ericbader 4 місяці тому +3

    Hi Ethan I just subscribed to your channel, and this is the second video I watched on your channel. (The first one I saw was your haluska video)
    I wanted to say that I thought this video was so awesome and well detailed. Mac and cheese is a really nostalgic food to me, after cooking eggs and toast boxed Mac and cheese was the first meal I learned to cook as an 8 year old kid.
    The way you elevate this dish through your research was very reverential. And that’s awesome.

  • @drukawski
    @drukawski 6 місяців тому +9

    Tapioca flour/starch has better flavor and thickening properties than cornstarch. The other thing that helps is boiling the shells in your frying pan and just reducing the water you boiled the noodles in to build the sauce. Add your starch to a jar of cold water and shake to incorporate, then add small amounts to the hot pan until you get what you're looking for. Also, you should build your sauce with cream and use champagne or white vinegar to knock down the sweetness. Only thing your missing is little smokies fried in a separate pan and mixed in while still hot and crispy right before serving. Maybe toss in a ramekin top with cheese and melt and crisp up the cheese topping under a broiler. If you go the broiler route you overcook the noodles, so you have to offset that by intentionally undercooking the noodles in the pan to end up with el dente noodles coming out of the oven. Technical mac and cheese is a super hard target to hit, it goes sideways real quick.

  • @EthanDavis.w
    @EthanDavis.w 6 місяців тому +43

    I am really grateful for your videos. I've never thought about combining cheeses to harness their best traits into one dish. On a separate note, I got a good laugh out of you blindfolding yourself at the end despite knowing which ones you were eating

    • @italiana626sc
      @italiana626sc 6 місяців тому +14

      I did too! Then I realized he was trying to focus on his sense of taste (and probably smell) to get those dialed in and not be influenced by the creamy vs drier look. But I was right there with you at first! lol

    • @EthanChlebowski
      @EthanChlebowski  6 місяців тому +28

      @@italiana626scHaha that’s exactly why I still decided to blind fold. Wanted to eliminate my sight to really focus in on the texture, smell, and taste!

    • @dosster1
      @dosster1 6 місяців тому

      I was leaving at that point. Then I thought about it and then came around too! I finally got it.@@EthanChlebowski

    • @GeeEee75
      @GeeEee75 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@EthanChlebowskiYees, but you also eat with your eyes, as every good food marketer knows!

  • @knightshousegames
    @knightshousegames 4 місяці тому +1

    This topic definitely feels worthy of a deep dive.
    It feels like this just scratched the surface, and has so much more potential to learn a lot more about this process and how it works

  • @gamesaregood9904
    @gamesaregood9904 6 місяців тому +17

    Would love to see the next video be you testing the different ways to stabilize the cheese sauce! I generally make a bechamel and then add cheese, then stir the cooked pasta through that once the cheese has melted.

    • @kavasir7042
      @kavasir7042 6 місяців тому +3

      Pretty much the best way imho. Mixing with a processed American plastic cheese is disgusting and makes the meal less wholesome. A simple roux/ bechamel sauce with a good cheddar will make a good creamy macaroni cheese.

    • @LeaAnne94
      @LeaAnne94 4 місяці тому

      What cheeses do you like to use? @@kavasir7042

    • @channeldoesnotexist
      @channeldoesnotexist 3 місяці тому

      @@kavasir7042 it is the superior recipe

  • @TheodoreMinick
    @TheodoreMinick 6 місяців тому +3

    For the record, I am absolutely down for the other videos on the pasta, liquid, and stabilizers.

  • @cameronmuhic5735
    @cameronmuhic5735 6 місяців тому +4

    Great video Ethan! I'd be really interested in seeing the other 3 tests you mentioned about noodle shape etc to determine the ultimate stove top max & cheese!

  • @patburkholder
    @patburkholder 6 місяців тому

    Love the idea behind this, will definitely help inform my mac and cheese escapades in the future. Hope you do those other three videos you mentioned!

  • @everythingautomotiveeta5839
    @everythingautomotiveeta5839 6 місяців тому +2

    I appreciate everything you do Ethan! Thank you for helping me understand how to think about being a cook

  • @fascinatedbyeverything
    @fascinatedbyeverything 6 місяців тому +6

    If you buy citric acid at Ace Hardware (they have it for canning in the kitchen aisle) and mix it with baking soda and water, it will chemically react and you'll get sodium citrate. It's fun to watch the chemical reaction fizz. I add the solution to Mac and cheese and it works well.

  • @user-ln9on4bg1m
    @user-ln9on4bg1m 6 місяців тому +3

    Been praying for a mac n cheese deep dive for a while now, it was my go to meal in uni and seeing it broken down into food science has made me wanna go back and experiment some more!

  • @Slattaro
    @Slattaro 6 місяців тому

    The reason I subbed is for high quality cooking content and this one is another hit! Excellent job!

  • @nutherefurlong
    @nutherefurlong 6 місяців тому

    I needed to see something like this to get over my hesitance to try to find a good combination. Great starting point, nice and detailed. Thank you!

  • @AlneCraft
    @AlneCraft 6 місяців тому +47

    Literally the best Mac N Cheese I ever made was when me and my friends were drunk off our rocker and we were all hungry. So I decided to cook up a quick Mac N Cheese with the following ratios (approximately!):
    20% Pecorino
    30% Mild Cheddar
    50% American Cheese
    As well as a healthy dosing of pasta water!
    Use MSG instead of salt because the Pecorino is salty by itself!
    Top with Pre-ground black pepper (it just tastes right on Mac N Cheese)
    Top-notch stuff, glad to see that the 50/50 split of Melting to Flavoring cheese is indeed the desired ratio for most optimized Smoothness and Taste! :D

    • @bluecup25
      @bluecup25 6 місяців тому +7

      While drunk off your rocker you were able to measure percentages?

    • @taciturntacitus7745
      @taciturntacitus7745 6 місяців тому +5

      @@bluecup25 It's not that tough to eyeball.

    • @bluecup25
      @bluecup25 6 місяців тому

      @@taciturntacitus7745 And how do you know it was 20% and not 15%?

    • @eldunari6676
      @eldunari6676 6 місяців тому +15

      @bluecup25 he said approximately, no need to be so particular about it lmao

    • @ayenii
      @ayenii 6 місяців тому +2

      @@bluecup25 It's not hard to divide ingredients into percentages
      Say you used 5 cups of cheese or something along those lines. 1 cup would be pecorino, 1 1/2 cup would be mild cheddar, and then 2 1/2 cups would be american. Pretty simple, and applicable to any recipe with some division.

  • @kingkurtis
    @kingkurtis 6 місяців тому +3

    Lately for me it's just way easier and more consistent to do a lightly seasoned mix of Parmigiano Reggiano and heated through heavy/double cream similar to how you'd do an alfredo. (caramelised onion and garlic are optional flavour boosters)

  • @nathancarhuff2094
    @nathancarhuff2094 Місяць тому

    Ok this is literally the most in depth video on mac & cheese ever!!! Keep up the good work!!!!

  • @treyperry9722
    @treyperry9722 6 місяців тому +5

    The recipe I use for 1lb of pasta is 6tbsp butter Roux, 12oz evap milk, 12oz cream, 16oz velveeta, 8oz extra sharp, 8oz gruyere, 8oz fresh parm. So it works out to 43oz of goo, 24oz of flavoring cheese. Makes a fantastic thanksgiving mac

  • @JohnSmith-nn1yk
    @JohnSmith-nn1yk 6 місяців тому +22

    When I make mac&cheese I always make it baked. I make a béchamel sauce and add 60% Velvetta, 30% extra sharp cheddar and 10% Parmigiano Reggiano. It seems to have the correct ratio of creaminess and bite of cheese that I find irresistible.

    • @Erik-ed8ml
      @Erik-ed8ml 6 місяців тому

      This sounds amazing man lol.

    • @jamesemslie2201
      @jamesemslie2201 4 місяці тому

      I was just looking through the comments to see if anyone else uses a mornay! I've never seen Mac and Cheese made this way!

  • @shiningstaer
    @shiningstaer 23 дні тому

    This is my quickest subscribed channel in a while. It’s better than simple review videos. There’s scientific method and then conclusions

  • @KurayamiShikaku
    @KurayamiShikaku 5 місяців тому

    Dude, you did great work on this. I was finally able to make the kind of mac and cheese I've been trying to (and failing at) for years with this approach.

  • @montagnarde1794
    @montagnarde1794 6 місяців тому +5

    Comté makes a really good flavoring cheese, either on its own or with extra sharp cheddar. My father (may he rest in peace) used to make a really good mac and cheese with tuna that paired really well with it.

  • @theresaanndiaz3179
    @theresaanndiaz3179 6 місяців тому +3

    I made an amazing mac & cheese that used brie cheese. I love the idea of experimenting with ingredients in "normal" recipes.

  • @mfenderson2714
    @mfenderson2714 6 місяців тому

    I love your kitchen experiments! You're like my favorite cooking buddy because I always learn so much! This video actually helped me understand why my mac and cheese it good and how I can consistently make it better. Thank you!!!

  • @HestiaHearthfire
    @HestiaHearthfire 6 місяців тому

    Love it. Good, scientific methodology, good knowledge, plus a great looking template to make your own recipe. I’d love more on this (also more ways to cook good meat, especially for your type of food prep! Your braised beef video was great!)

  • @dralbora
    @dralbora 6 місяців тому +3

    I love your hearty size bites to really enjoy the flavors you're comparing! And...now I'm hungry!!!

  • @uli11
    @uli11 6 місяців тому +21

    Parrano and gruyere is the best mac n cheese "flavor cheese" blend. Beechers if you're on the west coast is good too.
    My melting go to is a fontina or Raclette.
    I usually do a 50/50 blend. Very curious about the optimal ratio, though.
    Edit: just finished the video- good to know the 50/50 is recommended!

  • @privatename7797
    @privatename7797 6 місяців тому

    I don't know what kind of videos you did before these, but I love these food science videos! They're so good!

  • @padders1068
    @padders1068 6 місяців тому

    Ethan, thanks for sharing and for breaking down the results of the different mixtures/types of cheese! 🙂😋

  • @Perseca
    @Perseca 6 місяців тому +3

    Try a 50/50 blend of Havarti and Aged Cheddar. It's incredible with mac & cheese, and especially if you mix in some smoked brisket or something to really bump up that flavor.

  • @offroadskater
    @offroadskater 6 місяців тому +5

    Varying the amount of liquid just slightly would change the whole game again. Especially considering the time variant: Instantly devouring it vs waiting just five minutes is already a huge difference in perceives dryness. Btw, don't forget your corn starch gel video. This could be applied here, too.

  • @jadendurham6951
    @jadendurham6951 6 місяців тому

    Love these comparison videos. Super helpful. Also, your mustache is absolutely fantastic.

  • @bobbymarie8002
    @bobbymarie8002 6 місяців тому

    I've caught just a few of your videos. I enjoyed them. Thanks for taking the time to make so many versions with such little variables. I'm going to make the 50/50 mac & cheese. I'm looking fwd to it actually 🧀🍽

  • @sharon5414
    @sharon5414 6 місяців тому +9

    For those who don't like Velveeta they can always switch it with cream cheese. cream cheese makes great macaroni cheese if you blend it with other cheese right.

  • @patrickmcevoy5080
    @patrickmcevoy5080 6 місяців тому +6

    My favorite Mac and cheese is with a Béchamel sauce and a combination of Gruyere and Fontina cheeses. So yeah, there are a ton of variables for sure!

  • @AmyAmore99
    @AmyAmore99 4 місяці тому

    I just saw this video today and promptly made the 50/50 version and I LOVE it!!!!

  • @jarreneaston8348
    @jarreneaston8348 6 місяців тому +1

    A hallmark for mac n cheese is that processed Velveeta cheese its so good and the texture is amazing, I'm so glad you posted a video on this. One I recommend is 50% velveeta 25% Cheddar and 25% smoked gouda. The aroma of the gouda and the taste of the cheddar and the smoothness of the velveeta makes it one of my favorites so far.

  • @nicholasborrelli7544
    @nicholasborrelli7544 6 місяців тому +48

    I think we need another video where you dive deeper into the equation and test different options. I always use butter for mac and cheese and I like to use other cheeses like fontina or gruyere for the cheese flavors. I would love to see you blind taste test these different options to find the optimal combos

    • @EthanChlebowski
      @EthanChlebowski  6 місяців тому +30

      I know! The more I thought about this, there are almost unlimited things that could be tested!

    • @dosster1
      @dosster1 6 місяців тому +2

      Looking at the diagram my mind went mush with the variety of cheese options. You gave us a starting point. Thanks bro @@EthanChlebowski

    • @fieryvale
      @fieryvale 6 місяців тому

      @@EthanChlebowski Please do! But could you keep it to the more common cheeses? Most people wouldn't know where to get Gruyere, for example.

    • @euansmith7059
      @euansmith7059 6 місяців тому +3

      @@fieryvale American spotted lol, in Europe every supermarket sells gruyere

    • @fieryvale
      @fieryvale 6 місяців тому

      @@euansmith7059 Yep! I live in the South. The cheese options here are surprisingly limited.

  • @seethingnuclearchaos
    @seethingnuclearchaos 6 місяців тому +6

    I do a baked Mac and Cheese with a bechamel-based sauce. My ratios are 3 tbs butter and flour, 2 cups milk (I usually use 2%), 1/4 tsp dried mustard, 8 oz of extra sharp cheddar, and 1/2 lb of pasta. I find that extra sharp cheddar works best there since the sauce provides so much more liquid.

    • @mmfpv4411
      @mmfpv4411 6 місяців тому

      that sounds amazing!

  • @Futuregirlzone1
    @Futuregirlzone1 6 місяців тому +1

    This is the video I never knew I needed. I made mac n' cheese a few days ago for a celebration, and used 50/50 Velveeta/Sharp Cheddar. It was delicious and creamy with no leftovers. 😊

  • @felixcruzjr3117
    @felixcruzjr3117 6 місяців тому

    You should totally do a Mac and cheese series! Love your content!

  • @kingofdehsea
    @kingofdehsea 6 місяців тому +19

    A touch of blue cheese really unlocks the flavor of mac and cheese. So far for me the best method is to toast a roux until goden, then add in paprika, black pepper, mustard powder, and cayenne. Whole milk for the béchamel, then add in 3/4 sharp cheddar and 1/4 blue cheese. I bet you could easily replace some of that sharp cheddar with velveeta here to maintain creaminess, although whenever I made it it was always perfectly creamy and ever so slightly stretchy. toasted panko is perfect for a garnish and nutmeg can also go into the spice blend if you like

  • @guycoburn1633
    @guycoburn1633 6 місяців тому +5

    I make Mac & Cheese starting with a Roux made (usually) with Bacon Fat, then into a Bechamel, garlic and other seasonings, then I add a variety of cheeses to make a Mornay Sauce. This is where I was curious -- which variety of cheeses should I use? My go-to currently is some American, Sharp Cheddar, Monterey Jack and/or Swiss or Gouda. I have tried adding some Parmesan, some Mozzarella, some Mexican crumbling cheese, smoked provolone -- I'm willing to try all kinds of varieties.
    However, I think that the Mornay Sauce, while it is a little more work, makes a superior Mac & Cheese. I usually make the baked version, with either a crumb topping (Panko, butter, salt and Parmesan) or those French Fried Onions. I've tried add-ins like crumbled bacon, chopped pepperoni, cooked spicy sausage, caramelized onions.
    I would love to see you try a variety of cheeses to see which combination is superior.

    • @jennifergraham3752
      @jennifergraham3752 3 місяці тому +1

      I agree with you. Maybe because I am Canadian, I have never made the type of Mac and cheese in this video. Like you, I always start with a roux…adding onion to the butter first then the milk and a ton of extra old cheddar and a pinch of cayenne. Panko or breadcrumb topping and baked. I would miss the crunchy topping if I only had the stovetop version. The flavor of the extra old cheddar is excellent but it does end up a bit grainy. I am going to try mixing another cheese in. I love your idea of incorporating the crispy onions on top.

  • @kdbrown777
    @kdbrown777 5 місяців тому

    Excellent video, loved how thorough and scientific you were with the process. I'm definitely cutting my mac and cheese with 50% extra sharp cheddar from now on!

  • @williamparker8318
    @williamparker8318 6 місяців тому

    Good info Ethan. I always do a roux and two to three cheeses. Roux's are tricky because you have to watch it well over several minutes as you try to cook out the flour taste and not burn it. Velveeta, what can you say. Most of us learned early to make our first Mac n cheeses with this product. It's smooth. Recently I learned about sodium citrate and how to make your own at home and am looking forward to going down this rabbit hole. You are right. It's fun to experiment. Cheers

  • @Liz-pc3dc
    @Liz-pc3dc 6 місяців тому +10

    Hey everyone, I used Lea & Perrins worcestershire sauce to add flavor to my mac and chese. I don't know the prices in the US, but I know good cheese is expensive. I live in France so I have a huge variety of cheeses to choose from (and some are really expensive here too), but I thought maybe the sauce was an alternative to help a bland cheese. I do mine with roux and heavy cream + bacon and lots of cheese AND the sauce, and Dijon mustard. Then of course, I bake it with lots of cheese on to create the perfect blend of creamy insides and crispy top... The taste is amazing, but my recipe is not cheap ;-) My nephew loves it

  • @irisbear9421
    @irisbear9421 6 місяців тому +5

    I'm going to need all the Mac and cheese test videos 😂

  • @The_Mr._Biscuit
    @The_Mr._Biscuit 6 місяців тому

    As the mac'n'cheese guy of the family, this is incredibly helpful for the upcoming feasting season. My wife thought it was too dry last time, despite plenty of sauce, and this explains the cause so well.

  • @taal223
    @taal223 6 місяців тому

    I made mac and cheese a few days ago. I just finished the last of it today; and now I have a massive craving for more.

  • @eliansalinas7022
    @eliansalinas7022 5 місяців тому +15

    When the wife makes Mac and cheese for the holidays from scratch, I always tell her to add one slice of American cheese for the sodium citrate to help smooth out the cheese. She still doesn’t understand until AFTER she tastes it. This is after nearly four years of marriage and it’s always the same every year. Love that woman to death.

  • @Twisted_Logic
    @Twisted_Logic 6 місяців тому +3

    I think I have a weird palate, because my issue with processed cheese isn't that it's bland and flavorless like I typically hear from chefs and food influencers. On the contrary, for me it has a very distinct flavor I dislike and cuts through most other things it's paired with (it's a weird slightly bitter taste). On top of that, it gets so gooey that it sticks inside my mouth, so I get to experience that disagreeable taste for an extended period.
    Just something that crossed my mind while watching the taste test

  • @jax6632
    @jax6632 6 місяців тому

    one thing i appreciate your videos is that you take it from a culinary standpoint and making sure we as the audience have the foundation and key stuff down first. Really helped me grasp that cooking isnt super complex but figuring out which works well together and from there do the magic.

  • @xxsonyboy4lfexx
    @xxsonyboy4lfexx 6 місяців тому

    I love mac and cheese, and this definitely helps me understand how to make it smoother!

  • @jonathanknudsen4120
    @jonathanknudsen4120 4 місяці тому

    I love how scientific your videos are. I really appreciate the knowledge I gain from your channel.

  • @lynnboartsdye1943
    @lynnboartsdye1943 6 місяців тому +5

    What’s so great about Mac n cheese is it’s incredibly customizable. Everyone has a preferred noodle, cheese, texture etc and it’s interesting seeing how they all come together to make something so lovely. I’m currently on my own journey to rate as many boxed macs in my lifetime as possible purely based on my own preferences and it’s been fun to experiment and add things to boxed ones that didnt quite hit the mark but could be really improved on.
    Pro tip, never try the ketchup cheetos Mac n cheese it’s literally just ketchup and noodles and no one needs to experience that

  • @AlkonKomm
    @AlkonKomm 6 місяців тому +5

    I suggest to all Mac & Cheese lovers to try Käsespätzle if you ever get the chance

    • @2malsahm59
      @2malsahm59 6 місяців тому

      And where do we find that?

    • @AlkonKomm
      @AlkonKomm 6 місяців тому +2

      @@2malsahm59 in bavarian or austrian restaurants, or you make your own, it's a bit more work than mac & cheese though

  • @Appl_Jax
    @Appl_Jax 6 місяців тому

    This video was made just for me! I'm excited to see your results.

  • @rafyraffee
    @rafyraffee 2 місяці тому

    It's stuff like this that's why I'm subscribed. Top tier high quality food content!

  • @staris3712
    @staris3712 6 місяців тому +4

    I'd also be interested in seeing if baking the Mac n cheese would have an effect on the different percentages. Maybe the 75% because the baking gives it more time to meld with the noodle or maybe the 25% pull ahead because the other two start to exhibit stronger dry flavors.

  • @ramrod19
    @ramrod19 6 місяців тому +3

    Best cheese is subjective depending on taste preference. Find the best combo that works for you and enjoy!

  • @peterbradshaw5272
    @peterbradshaw5272 6 місяців тому

    Great video. Really well put together and explained. Dam! Now I really want a Mac & Cheese!

  • @daWatcher
    @daWatcher 6 місяців тому +1

    One thing I have been experimenting with when I make Mac n. Cheese lately is to use a combination of a smooth melting cheese (like an American or Jack cheese) and a very sharp cheddar and then (this is the secret) hit it with an immersion blender to really emulsify the sauce before adding the pasta.

  • @4.0.4
    @4.0.4 6 місяців тому +3

    I love how you take those huge bites like a starving caveman, I feel validated in how I eat 😂

    • @ThaisMCruz
      @ThaisMCruz 6 місяців тому

      I know, right? As I watched the video, I couldn’t get over it. 😂😂😂

  • @EnlightendOne63
    @EnlightendOne63 6 місяців тому +3

    Why are u blindfolded?

  • @beatriceroosmark9796
    @beatriceroosmark9796 6 місяців тому

    Need this right before thanksgiving!😊

  • @paulandlesson
    @paulandlesson 6 місяців тому

    As always you continue to ROCK! Long time subscriber, liker and viewer!

  • @karlsmith9186
    @karlsmith9186 6 місяців тому

    We really need that video you mentioned about what makes the best emulsion stabilizer

  • @Tompie913
    @Tompie913 6 місяців тому +1

    The one cheese I find indispensable for making mac and cheese, au gratin potatoes, and just cooking in general is Kerrygold Dubliner. It's a unique cheese that's kinda of like cheddar, kind of like parmesan, but ultimately distinct from either of those. It's very easy to grate and creates a rich, creamy sauce. I buy 1.5lb blocks from Sam's Club and always have it in my fridge. Decent snacking cheese, and while I haven't tried it yet, I suspect it is close enough to parmesan to be used in Alfredo sauce too.

  • @bvdaken
    @bvdaken 6 місяців тому

    super informative, easy to understand video. nice!!

  • @yingpd
    @yingpd 6 місяців тому

    Finally! Why did it take this long for this crucial information to come out!!! Perfect!

  • @RedPandaHailey
    @RedPandaHailey 6 місяців тому

    Please do the other three parts of Mac and cheese! I’ve been wanting graduate from box Mac and cheese and do a homemade Mac and cheese for a while now and now I know where to start :)

  • @Lynn.Lawson
    @Lynn.Lawson 6 місяців тому +1

    I always experiment with combos of cheeses in my Mac & Cheese. I also add 2-3 tablespoons of Cheez Wiz as my emulsifier since it's already creamy. I add some Mozzarella too for the gooeyness factor. Sometimes I'll add a little smoked paprika if I don't have smoked Cheddar.

  • @drechsla
    @drechsla 6 місяців тому

    Watching Ethan house food is my favorite part of these videos, I need his workout routine because I eat like that and blow up.

  • @mylittleparody2277
    @mylittleparody2277 6 місяців тому

    I love this scientific aproach, and the fact that you provide written version too!
    Thank you.

  • @skyem5250
    @skyem5250 6 місяців тому

    OMG this is the video i have been hoping Ethan would make since I found his channel

  • @chihuahuasrule1175
    @chihuahuasrule1175 4 місяці тому

    Please do separate videos on the various methodologies and ingredients of mac and cheese. I would love to watch that.

  • @christophercook1382
    @christophercook1382 4 місяці тому

    Hey dude, love these deep dive videos. Keep them coming!!! When I worked in a pizzeria in college we had a unique blend of hard and soft cheeses for our pizza. It would be really cool to see what is the correct ratio between soft cheese and hard cheese to make the perfect pizza at home. 100% know how big of an ask that is but u seam like a serious dude who can handle serious s**t. Food for thought. Luv u bruv!

  • @mohamedmimou5639
    @mohamedmimou5639 6 місяців тому

    thank you for your hard work it's such a valubale piece of content

  • @gregmccormack5709
    @gregmccormack5709 6 місяців тому

    YES!! you did the ratios ❤. Great Vid.

  • @mj-sv4tr
    @mj-sv4tr 6 місяців тому

    ive been watching nothing but mac and cheese videos the past 2weeks thank u for posting this for me

  • @fabdig9957
    @fabdig9957 6 місяців тому

    Made this tonight and it’s amazing ❤ thank you Ethan

  • @rburchell4519
    @rburchell4519 6 місяців тому

    Mac and cheese is an easy top 5 foods for me. Using Velveeta as a texture improver has been my go to for years now!
    I find the best results come from using a roux based sauce with about 25% half-and-half or coffee cream to 75% milk. Then a light, light pinch of fresh nutmeg and cayenne. Season well with salt and a little black pepper.
    I find the 25/75 mix of Velveeta to old/sharp cheddar works well with the roux based sauce.
    Chef kiss

  • @kevinanderson6558
    @kevinanderson6558 5 місяців тому

    Perfect. Throwing out my recipe for this Mac & cheese approach.

  • @bctalicorn809
    @bctalicorn809 4 місяці тому +1

    I always do 50% American, 25% cheddar, 25% asiago. White cheddar melts extremely well too and the flavor is much more potent than a mild or medium cheddar, I have found.
    I melt butter in the pan with my milk/half n half/whipping cream (depends on what we have in the house) and then add the melty cheeses first, then once those have all emulsified, I turn it to low heat and whisk in the sharper cheeses. Works like a charm.
    Also, if you want an extra thick texture, you can boil your noodles in milk and don't drain them. The pasta starch thickens the milk once they're al dente, and it makes a very rich flavor. However, it's quite challenging to eat lots of it in one sitting, so it's better to have that as a side dish and not the main course.

  • @jimellis1810
    @jimellis1810 6 місяців тому

    This video answers some of life's most pressing questions. Thank you for making it!

  • @benjaminwatson543
    @benjaminwatson543 5 місяців тому +1

    I tend to be a Sodium Citrate mac and cheese kind of guy, since you can get that ultra smooth texture without having to account for it with velveeta. I also tend to like using different cheeses depending on the composition of the dish. I'll use a milder monetary jack and mozzarella mix whenever I include bacon in the pasta, since I think the saltiness of cheddar gets overwhelming when mixed with the bacon. But I'll use stronger cheeses (gouda, cheddar, or gruyere if I'm feeling fancy) with chicken dishes. A bit half and half for hamburger.