5 years on and this has been the most capable Synthesizer I’ve had the privilege of owning. Can handle anything I throw at it. Never disappoints and always deliverers. Outstanding synth and worth the commitment.
This really sells me on the ide of owning one. I have been saving money for a couple of years, shame that the component shortage struck and prices have gone up though. Good to hear that after 5 years you still feel creative when playing on it and that it still impresses you.
@@rasmusniklasson1704 Try and get one on the second hand market, something that I might do. For me it's this synth or the Ob6 which is limited compared to the prophet rev 2 but sounds amazing, when I tried it out at my music shop I nearly went into Two and a half grand of debt that day.
Do you not miss other filters than just LP? I couldn't imagine having such an expensive synth with one filter type. BP is crucial to so many sounds as is HP.
it's sad about his sudden passing last year...RIP Mr Smith 🙏🏻 and it's ironic how this video is almost like a tribute to him now...his work continues and lives on with every composition on these synths 🙏🏻
One day people will understand what an absolute beast of a synth this really is :) Glad to have one, and it plays really nice with the P6 as well! Each has it's own strong suits.. the Rev 2 can sound fizzy and glittery, while the P6 just sounds.. juicy, warm and alive! I guess you really need both! And a big wallet :)
My name's Straighttalk and I'm a recovering synthholic. My last two synths were the Rev2 16 voice and the Waldorf Puls2 both bought at the same time early 2022.Now I own almost every form of hardware synthesis, 2 X VCO, 3 X DCO, 2 X analog modeling/Wave-table, 2 X Sampler. No hardware FM though. I almost bought the Opsix but I'm not a massive fan of FM so that's my lot, no more synths for me.
Thank you for implementing extra outputs! so many synths are made with 8/16+ voices, but with only a single output. extra outputs lets us track & record layers quicker, plus run through external FX if we want. This Rev2 is looking like a monster of a synth! Keep it up DSI!
This is awesome! I cherish my Prophet '08. I didn't really take to it until I dove into the modulation matrix and split/ stack programs. I once lost a whole afternoon running CV through the expression input routed to various destinations...absolutely wonderful! I'm really excited about the Rev2 sequencer as on the '08 w/o the plugin programming musical sequences is painful and no polyphony. Variable wave shapes and the sub oscillator open up a whole new dimension of possibilities. Thank you DSI!
Love it! The best synth DSI has ever made (VCO or DCO). People under-estimate this and have no idea how potent and flexible it is while sounding fully analog (if you want). The filter is more than easily tamable and the DCOS can sound a lot more alive with the new features of REV2 (vs Prophet 08 which I never fully liked). I bought a REV2 and thank Dave Smith for making such a great quality synth at a great price, build quality is excellent, looks beautiful, keybed is great. Just a pleasure to wake up to and use, looks like a prophet, sounds like a prophet/oberheim/jupiter (6 and 8), yet is packed with modern features and tons of modulation. Stunning! Sorry for doubting you in the past Dave!!
@@quarkyzarky Yes i agree. It doesnt matter that the Prologue has VCOs because they sound like digital Oscs. If they would sound like sequentials VCOs Prologue would be a steal for the price!
Wow! That looks amazing! I just bought a Jupiter 8 to get that old vintage sound. I've always wanted to try a Prophet 5 too. Now I want to try the Rev 2. :) You guys keep making amazing instruments! :) I love it! :)
Love how they kept the '08 sound, so no absolute need for P6 or OB6 owners to switch instruments, hehe. Pushing modern analog synth boundaries once again!
To me the REV2 actually (can) sound nicer, inc 'analog' tones, and do far more than ob6/rev2 in much better full sized package with tons of modulation and much cheaper. It's a great synth. I sold my Prophet 6 due to Rev2 giving me more of what I need, I was surprised how musically useful it was vs the Prophet 6 (raw VCO is ok but in its place and I prefer that elsewhere). Was so fed up of the limits on Prophet 6 (keyboard and LFO) that it just didn't feel worth it, the sound wasn't always great either next to my vintage VCO synths. Rev2 however sounds better than anything in my studio!
Oh dear, I'm sold, time to sell my Prophet 12 - I always much preferred the sound of the P08. And I'll have to make sure PatchMorpher works with this version too, though the MIDI interfaces of the DSI synths is perfection so that shouldn't be a big job.
Exactly. It covers every thing the deepmind does + plus more voices. But it does not have a hpf. But this will have an incredible mod matrix. I am stoked! According to matrixsynth "An effects section provides reverb, delays (standard and BBD), chorus, phase shifter, ring modulation, and distortion. In stacked or split voice mode, you can apply a different effect to each layer. Effects parameters can be modulated through the mod matrix, which is twice as extensive as its predecessor, with 8 individual slots and many more sources/destinations."
for somebody who is interested in the rev2 inside an entire track: soundcloud.com/qatarsis/a-desolate-hope/s-KxxFZ all synth sounds are made with the rev2 hope you enjoy!
Hey Dave thanks for coming back, and continuing to build the greatest Synth's ever. So how about creating something many people could use and would surely purchase.. You'd have a huge customer base in an instant build a useful addition to the many people who own Multi timbral Workstations like Korg Trinity, Triton, & TR series many versions of each The Roland Workstations D-50, the JV 80. 1080, 2080, 3080, All the Yamaha Motif Workstations, and the Many Kurzweil K2000, K2500, K2600, you'd make many people very happy keep in mind all these beasts have multiple outputs as well after all shouldn't we consider any output source, just like a more complex OSC output So you r OSC would be the actual output from your workstation direct outs from 2 to 4 and up to 8 .Each channel or just 1 or a stereo pair could be After Effected with Filters, Modulation, and Envelopes, and more Delay, reverbs, flangers, chorus, overdrive, distortion or any other stomp box type FX. By while allowing for a Wet / Dry feed, allowing the Original sound output both paths direct out to mixer 1 path Un-effected and the other path with Effected ones to be blended or folded back on itself. Lets face it all Guitar type stomp boxes are Simply Synth modules tailored to a specific FX so imagine all the possibilities that would offer * someone with 8 direct outs. An already completed sound patche(s) acting as the OSC . Then being resynthesized and mixed with what ever functions a buyer purchases. One's they could continue to buy one at a time. Euro rack sized held in a frame sitting like a control panel with easy access conveniently hovering above their already owned Synth. Including step seq. or multi channels ( hey its just another sale ) much like a Modular system without OSC.'s just Modifiers and a input matrix patch bay ? And why reinvent the wheel when there's so many Euro Rack Modules available allow everyone in on the fun. I could draw it up for you if you'd like. I was a P5 owner x2 plus your seq. and the DC Buss just might be inspired to take it all the way to the bank $$ write me if I've got your attention I also had one of the first P8's as a Beta tester , but the one I was sent had an aneurysm and it had to go back. Also worked on the Six track demo seq.s with Rich Godinez. Hopefully my idea will lead you to yet another huge hit. Imagine an add on for the Workstation synths. Giving new life to a platform that many of us can't afford to replace every time a newer one comes out. Besides how many Drum Kits do people need or built in seq.s The whole idea of MIDI was to chain all our gear together allowing the different tonal sounds of one brand with another or several others. So the idea of adding more fun & functionality to enhance our already well known and still useful Keyboards, With those things or features only available to modular products, And the benefit of a Dave Smith design , filters, sound and to be able to buy it a piece or two at a time for us older guys perhaps now having fixed incomes & wifes to still answer too. Opens up an entirely new market place, I've got several other great idea's to for other needed affordable products. If you're willing to listen. Oh sorry I forgot so what happened to our relationship. Well you went off to the land of the rising sun. Godinez became the National sales manager at Kawai dragged me along as a product specialist & then send me all over the midwest doing Demo's Seminar's Clinic's Namm shows & Midwest Sales manager = Reptile. long story for another day I was the 4th member I.M.A. taught MIDI & Digital Recording tech @ De Paul yes I'm that Italian guy who looked like Gino Vannelli who lived in Chicagoland area. Doug was working for you at SC in those days. Best Regards
Is this now called the Prophet REV 2 or just REV 2? I must admit, I was really missing the Prophet name when I saw it announced as just REV 2. Looks/Sounds wonderful and a lot more affordable than the P6 and OB6 (of which I can only dream of owning). Maybe one day I can afford one of these! Well done DSI :)
Dave Smith.Love this man.This is gonna be great!And also.....This means..... the used Prophet 8 price will go down??? probably??maybe??YES! Tetra POLYCHAIN !!POLYCHAIN!!!
Hey DSI will it have alternate tuning options, and if so, will 08 receive an update for alt tunings as well? Thank u for putting out such great products!
I remembering calling Dave back when the P08 was just coming out; was curious about the 'Drift' function. I own a Rev2 P5(w/midi) and thought about selling it at the time. Dave told me sell it("it's old technology,wasn't meant to last 30+ years...") and get the 08 and that you can get that same 'warmth'. Went to my local music store to check out the P08.I walked out...still have my P5 ;)
Dave Smith Instruments - is it possible to work with Curtis Electronics and get the original VCO, VCF, VCA's reissued (I think they've already redone the VCO's) and start using them in your products? The chips that were used back in the day in your prophet 5, Jupiter 6, oberheim OB8, OBXa + a whole lot of other synths. They do have a very recognisable sound...and its something I would like to see. The REV2 and Prophet 6 are great synths...but I'd love to hear what you could do with the original chips. Also, is there any chance you could start adding analog effects to your line up? Just as a side note - check out the artist Com Truise. He exclusively uses an old Sequential Split 8. Every synth sound on his albums are Split 8. Check out 'In Decay' and 'Galactic Melt'. Just goes to show analog is still relevant today...
Hmm... Very nice. I had an original P'08 and have a pot edition rack now (and a P'12 and a Pro-2). I am not so sure I would go for a Rev2 at this time. If the Pro-2 and P'12 would get mushed together into 16 voices with the filter structure and a polyphonic version of the sequencer of the Pro-2 then it would be time for an upgrade.
DSI! Great work! Got the 08 as my first analog synth and returned it because it was difficult to program haha. Learned more about programming and eventually had to buy the 08 again and I will never turn back from DSI! A few things to note for you "Ahhh, digital effect! Keep it analog!" people... IF YOU RECORD AND MIX ON A DAW LIKE 99% OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS CENTURY THEN YOU NO LONGER HAVE A "PURE" ANALOG SIGNAL PATH... Ugh. The characteristics of analog are still retained since they are the ROOT of the sound being produced. All I have is analog synths, (P08 and Moog LP) but be realistic and logical, people. Don't be idiots. Love it all, DSI.
Hi, may I know if there is any difference between 8-voice version and 16-voice version besides the polyphony? I really like Rev2 by far but I do not really need 16 voices, so I may just want a 8-voice but cheaper version if other features are all the same.
Still does not answer my question. How many fx per layer? I am guessing we can route the LFO and mod matrix to any effects simultaneously, thus i am hoping we can stack multiple effects on a single layer.
Great!..but just a few thoughts. -The occurrence of crackling and aliasing on the prophet 08 when the amp envelope and velocity was cranked up was really not appealing in its sound. I did not like the way the 08 manual addressed it either. I hope this issue does not occur with the rev 2. - I am one of those who love the sound of the 08 Curtis filter BUT it would be really great to have a hpf/bpf for the given price. I know that is asking a bit much. - The slop function on the 08 left something to be desired especially when i heard the prophet 6. - Please do not make me spend another dime on soundtower programs. (not a biggie) I don't mean to come off as a snob. Either way, i am so happy you guys are releasing this. A definite must buy for me. I love the Rhodes and Wurlitzer sounds i can get out of the 08, i am stoked to have twice the poly and modulation parameters + effects O.O. Seriously, my 08 is already on the market. I was going to buy the DM12, but you guys came through just in time! Love DSI and made in SF!
The crackling when you turn up the amp envelope and velocity will happen with all our synths if you aren't mindful of your gain staging. We don't artificially limit any part of the signal path, because sometimes things can "break" in interesting ways. There's always a way to keep your program from overloading though, feel free to contact us if you'd like suggestions. The slop on the Prophet Rev2 is derived from the Prophet-6.
Nishanth Dass hey dude. Any examples of the Rhodes sound you mentioned? That will be one of my first patches and I'm looking to hear some other examples.
FYI you can get bandpass/highpass using the 'hipass' (resonant) FX (digital but sounds good). You can use that with the lowpass to make any modulatable bandpass sound you wish, or high pass too obviously! Yeah you can do those sounds on this that you couldn't do on Prophet 08 thanks to that Filter FX built into the core engine and part of the patch.
I have a question: If I had to choose between the Prophet 12 and the REV2, which one should I buy? What are the differences? It's the REV2 superior? Can I do with the REV2 the same with the Prophet 12 and more? Thanks for your answers
This should be cheaper than both of those. He mentions in the video that he wanted to reduce the cost. It might be cheaper than a P08 when it was first released. Here's to hoping, though, right?
Hi guys! I have a question. Can use the patch of my mopho and tetra here? I wanna sell tetra +mopho and buy prophet Rev 2, but don't wanna lost my prestes. Thanks! :)
Does it come with a beatsynced arp/sequencer? I really love my 08 but its such a shame that it cannot be synced to a click track or something. (and the note order when 1 or 2 octaves isn't what anybody is looking for in my opion, you guys really need to check that, or will the prophet08's firmware will be updated someday so it will do the trick?)
Okay, thanks for the response. I already have a Prophet 12 so don't really need the Rev2 in keyboard form, so a module version with all the knobs would be perfect for me. That said, another DSI keyboard in my setup would look great in my studio! :)
What synth in the Dave Smith product line would be best for 80s 90s new wave music? I am playing in a 1980s new wave tribute band and need a synth for that but there are so many different Prophet models that I am confused what ones would be best for playing songs by the Cure, New Order, Duran Duran and Depeche Mode.
The Rev2 is completely capable of getting what you want, but the Prophet-6 is going to give you a wider sweet spot for those kinds of sounds so that would be our recommendation.
Is there an upgrade path from the Rev2 8 voice to 16 voice? By that I mean if I were to purchase the 8 voice model rev2, is there any way to turn it into a 16 voice model in the future (can I purchase an upgrade), or would I have to sell my 8 voice rev2 and purchase a new 16 voice Rev2 instead?
I think it is better to have limited features 100% sound path analog music equipment or instrument then with alot of features but there is something digital in the path. But ofcause it will be more better to have alot of features 100% analog analog music equipment or instrument. Speakign about this new Prohet if i was Dave Smith i would not include any digital effects there at all but atlist as i understand if i am not wrong he made an option to by pass them so sound path will be 100% analog.
We do know that both layers can use effect(s). But we don't know how many. Is it 1 for each layer and two for a single layer? Can you use two effects globaly for both layers? Please elaborate on the effects. :)
What does the ARP Mode button does ?? You should have dedicated 2 buttons for ARP (Off/divsion and octave). Really a pity that.. And how do we change patches in live situations ?? with encoders ?? we need dedicated buttons/numbers for changin patches !!!
There are two Arp buttons, Mode and On/Off. On/Off turns the Arp on and off, and Mode accesses the different modes like the number of octaves, number of repeats, and arpeggio type. Program change is by detented encoders with soft click, or MIDI. The encoders are dedicated so they do not share functions with anything else, and they are very responsive so it's easy to increment or decrement by a single program if that's what you want to do.
Downloadable from the manufacturer's web site, free of charge. Available for both PC and Mac (I'm on Mac). Works well. Haven't tried the Wi-Fi mode yet...
Probably the same logic with the Pro2; different components and designs that take it in that general prophet direction but branch off in fun new ways. Kudos to him and his team. Really looks great.
Ah, that's interesting. When it was first announced, it was just the 'REV 2'. See for example the video above at 1:55. But I see now that they have decided to brand it as the 'PROPHET REV 2'. Good to see the Prophet name live on.
yep, in the video the keyboard's sticker only says "rev 2" in bold but the product images on the web site has a different sticker with the word Prophet in bold.
Well, several months after my initial comment, I bought one (16 voices model) and, part of what I said is still true, but part of it is not. It's still is a Curtis chips machine, but Dave has done something to them that lessens the "coloring" or "flavor", so that the REV2 is half way between a Prophet 6 and a Prophet 08, IMHO. And I like it. Also, Dave did not mention in this video that the REV2 is also probably a direct reaction to the very successful 12 voices, very first polysynth from Behringer, the Deepmind 12, which I also own and is an unbeatable value for price good sounding machine.
Haha... great vid', don't know whether it makes me lust for a REV2 to complement my PEK, or just for Nick Semrad's talent :-) Anyway, nice to see an improved osc slop function, question : is it a modulation destination (should be) ? I guess there's still no FM appart from the filter's "audio mod" ?
5 years on and this has been the most capable Synthesizer I’ve had the privilege of owning. Can handle anything I throw at it. Never disappoints and always deliverers. Outstanding synth and worth the commitment.
This really sells me on the ide of owning one. I have been saving money for a couple of years, shame that the component shortage struck and prices have gone up though. Good to hear that after 5 years you still feel creative when playing on it and that it still impresses you.
@@rasmusniklasson1704 Try and get one on the second hand market, something that I might do. For me it's this synth or the Ob6 which is limited compared to the prophet rev 2 but sounds amazing, when I tried it out at my music shop I nearly went into Two and a half grand of debt that day.
Do you not miss other filters than just LP? I couldn't imagine having such an expensive synth with one filter type. BP is crucial to so many sounds as is HP.
I miss this man! 🥺
Rest in peace Professor Dave Smith. 🤍
it's sad about his sudden passing last year...RIP Mr Smith 🙏🏻 and it's ironic how this video is almost like a tribute to him now...his work continues and lives on with every composition on these synths 🙏🏻
One day people will understand what an absolute beast of a synth this really is :) Glad to have one, and it plays really nice with the P6 as well! Each has it's own strong suits.. the Rev 2 can sound fizzy and glittery, while the P6 just sounds.. juicy, warm and alive! I guess you really need both! And a big wallet :)
What a time to be a synth nerd!
jozeph gee
I'm a synthesizer nerd🎹🎼
My name's Straighttalk and I'm a recovering synthholic.
My last two synths were the Rev2 16 voice and the Waldorf Puls2 both bought at the same time
early 2022.Now I own almost every form of hardware synthesis, 2 X VCO, 3 X DCO, 2 X analog modeling/Wave-table, 2 X Sampler.
No hardware FM though. I almost bought the Opsix but I'm not a massive fan of FM so that's my lot, no more synths for me.
I can't wait to buy this. I love my Pro 2 and OB-6. Thanks for the hard work Dave Smith Instruments. The Rev 2 looks and sounds awesome!
$1999 for 16 voices, Dave Smith Instruments innovative technology & sound.. Win WIN for all of us ANALOG JUNKIES!!
Rik Marston Official yah... but the filters aren’t the greatest... has no low end really... i own one ☝️
Really are you sure it just won’t make the synth squeal, analog res tends to do that 😂
@@puma8373
What other analog synth would you suggest then for that price or less?
@@puma8373 Most of us have a Moog mono for low end stuff. The Rev2 is all about polyphony and modulation and it can't be beat at that price.
Thank you for implementing extra outputs! so many synths are made with 8/16+ voices, but with only a single output. extra outputs lets us track & record layers quicker, plus run through external FX if we want.
This Rev2 is looking like a monster of a synth! Keep it up DSI!
Dave Smith ... continually outdoing himself over and over again! Amazing new instrument, Dave! Can't wait to check it out in person!
Oh man! I love new analog stuff and this looks promising.
I`m in "synth love" again. Great Job Dave.
Dave smith the legend. He’s watching us.
Glad they are finally out and available - worth the wait ----- ordering one now
Sounds amazing in my mind.
Dave is my hero!
This thing sounds really nice.
Very impressive!
Amazing guys! :)
This is awesome! I cherish my Prophet '08. I didn't really take to it until I dove into the modulation matrix and split/ stack programs. I once lost a whole afternoon running CV through the expression input routed to various destinations...absolutely wonderful! I'm really excited about the Rev2 sequencer as on the '08 w/o the plugin programming musical sequences is painful and no polyphony. Variable wave shapes and the sub oscillator open up a whole new dimension of possibilities. Thank you DSI!
This synth hits my synth spot.
wow... a powerhouse!
Just got mine! 🎹✌🏿
This man knows his stuff
holy smoke 16 voices ......analog..... thats awesome
Another winner. Man I need more money. I will get this
Love it! The best synth DSI has ever made (VCO or DCO). People under-estimate this and have no idea how potent and flexible it is while sounding fully analog (if you want). The filter is more than easily tamable and the DCOS can sound a lot more alive with the new features of REV2 (vs Prophet 08 which I never fully liked).
I bought a REV2 and thank Dave Smith for making such a great quality synth at a great price, build quality is excellent, looks beautiful, keybed is great. Just a pleasure to wake up to and use, looks like a prophet, sounds like a prophet/oberheim/jupiter (6 and 8), yet is packed with modern features and tons of modulation. Stunning!
Sorry for doubting you in the past Dave!!
Sounds way better than the Korg Prologue. DCOs or not. This sounds rich, musical and has presence that is sorely missing from the Korg.
@@quarkyzarky Yes i agree. It doesnt matter that the Prologue has VCOs because they sound like digital Oscs. If they would sound like sequentials VCOs Prologue would be a steal for the price!
MArch can't come fast enough! haha. I'm looking forward to playing this along side my prophet 6 and 12
dave smith is clipping it!!!! THE KING OF POLYS IS BACK TO RECLAIM HIS CROWN!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow! That looks amazing! I just bought a Jupiter 8 to get that old vintage sound. I've always wanted to try a Prophet 5 too. Now I want to try the Rev 2. :) You guys keep making amazing instruments! :) I love it! :)
Yes yes yes!
Love how they kept the '08 sound, so no absolute need for P6 or OB6 owners to switch instruments, hehe. Pushing modern analog synth boundaries once again!
To me the REV2 actually (can) sound nicer, inc 'analog' tones, and do far more than ob6/rev2 in much better full sized package with tons of modulation and much cheaper. It's a great synth. I sold my Prophet 6 due to Rev2 giving me more of what I need, I was surprised how musically useful it was vs the Prophet 6 (raw VCO is ok but in its place and I prefer that elsewhere). Was so fed up of the limits on Prophet 6 (keyboard and LFO) that it just didn't feel worth it, the sound wasn't always great either next to my vintage VCO synths. Rev2 however sounds better than anything in my studio!
Oh dear, I'm sold, time to sell my Prophet 12 - I always much preferred the sound of the P08. And I'll have to make sure PatchMorpher works with this version too, though the MIDI interfaces of the DSI synths is perfection so that shouldn't be a big job.
i will just not read the comments this time, I JUST LOVED IT
Synthwave heaven
Sounds great, but I'll wait for the 16 voice desktop module!
This sounds fine, I don't know what you're on about.
Gustavo Alberto Elizondo Yeah, that would be nice. But would it kill a Virus?
granted
So this is a huge answer to DM12 =) I wonder what the price would be, and this makes me glad i waited until NAMM. God i need this thing....
Exactly. It covers every thing the deepmind does + plus more voices. But it does not have a hpf. But this will have an incredible mod matrix. I am stoked!
According to matrixsynth "An effects section provides reverb, delays (standard and BBD), chorus, phase shifter, ring modulation, and distortion. In stacked or split voice mode, you can apply a different effect to each layer. Effects parameters can be modulated through the mod matrix, which is twice as extensive as its predecessor, with 8 individual slots and many more sources/destinations."
`in another video He mentioned a price point of 1499 for the 8 voice and around 1899 for the 16 voice.
This *definitely* sounds different from the original. Wider, softer.
And more than twice the price of the DM12
@@davidcole1362 DM12 is great for the price, but not a good compare it to the Rev 2.
The two patterns in the beginning of the video sound heavenly.
for somebody who is interested in the rev2 inside an entire track:
soundcloud.com/qatarsis/a-desolate-hope/s-KxxFZ
all synth sounds are made with the rev2
hope you enjoy!
Hey Dave thanks for coming back, and continuing to build the greatest Synth's ever. So how about creating something many people could use and would surely purchase..
You'd have a huge customer base in an instant build a useful addition to the many people who own Multi timbral Workstations like Korg Trinity, Triton, & TR series many versions of each The Roland Workstations D-50, the JV 80. 1080, 2080, 3080,
All the Yamaha Motif Workstations, and the Many Kurzweil K2000, K2500, K2600, you'd make many people very happy keep in mind all these beasts have multiple outputs as well after all shouldn't we consider any output source, just like a more complex OSC output
So you r OSC would be the actual output from your workstation direct outs from 2 to 4 and up to 8 .Each channel or just 1 or a stereo pair could be After Effected with Filters, Modulation, and Envelopes, and more Delay, reverbs, flangers, chorus, overdrive, distortion or any other stomp box type FX.
By while allowing for a Wet / Dry feed, allowing the Original sound output both paths direct out to mixer 1 path Un-effected and the other path with Effected ones to be blended or folded back on itself.
Lets face it all Guitar type stomp boxes are Simply Synth modules tailored to a specific FX so imagine all the possibilities that would offer * someone with 8 direct outs.
An already completed sound patche(s) acting as the OSC . Then being resynthesized and mixed with what ever functions a buyer purchases. One's they could continue to buy one at a time. Euro rack sized held in a frame sitting like a control panel with easy access conveniently hovering above their already owned Synth.
Including step seq. or multi channels ( hey its just another sale ) much like a Modular system without OSC.'s just Modifiers and a input matrix patch bay ? And why reinvent the wheel when there's so many Euro Rack Modules available allow everyone in on the fun.
I could draw it up for you if you'd like. I was a P5 owner x2 plus your seq. and the DC Buss just might be inspired to take it all the way to the bank $$ write me if I've got your attention
I also had one of the first P8's as a Beta tester , but the one I was sent had an aneurysm and it had to go back. Also worked on the Six track demo seq.s with Rich Godinez.
Hopefully my idea will lead you to yet another huge hit. Imagine an add on for the Workstation synths. Giving new life to a platform that many of us can't afford to replace every time a newer one comes out. Besides how many Drum Kits do people need or built in seq.s The whole idea of MIDI was to chain all our gear together allowing the different tonal sounds of one brand with another or several others.
So the idea of adding more fun & functionality to enhance our already well known and still useful Keyboards, With those things or features only available to modular products, And the benefit of a Dave Smith design , filters, sound and to be able to buy it a piece or two at a time for us older guys perhaps now having fixed incomes & wifes to still answer too.
Opens up an entirely new market place, I've got several other great idea's to for other needed affordable products. If you're willing to listen. Oh sorry I forgot so what happened to our relationship. Well you went off to the land of the rising sun. Godinez became the National sales manager at Kawai dragged me along as a product specialist & then send me all over the midwest doing Demo's Seminar's Clinic's Namm shows & Midwest Sales manager = Reptile. long story for another day I was the 4th member I.M.A. taught MIDI & Digital Recording tech @ De Paul yes I'm that Italian guy who looked like Gino Vannelli who lived in Chicagoland area. Doug was working for you at SC in those days.
Best Regards
Is this now called the Prophet REV 2 or just REV 2? I must admit, I was really missing the Prophet name when I saw it announced as just REV 2. Looks/Sounds wonderful and a lot more affordable than the P6 and OB6 (of which I can only dream of owning). Maybe one day I can afford one of these! Well done DSI :)
I swear on the older gear. but this, I want.
Dave Smith.Love this man.This is gonna be great!And also.....This means..... the used Prophet 8 price will go down??? probably??maybe??YES! Tetra POLYCHAIN !!POLYCHAIN!!!
great background score! especially from 2:00. Sound a bit like a John Carpenter score (BTLC)
Is there a sequencer on this synth?
Oh it does. Nice. I was thinking of buying a Mophox4 , but this seems promising.
" whoa "
I am buying one as soon as possible...
2k for a 16 voice version. this thing looks/sounds incredible. you should check out the sound demos on soundcloud, holy sh*t.
Does the 16 voice have another other features than the 8??
the whole feature list is on dave smiths site dood. look for dave smith rev 2 :)
Hey DSI will it have alternate tuning options, and if so, will 08 receive an update for alt tunings as well? Thank u for putting out such great products!
Turns out, yes. The Prophet Rev2 will have alternate tuning options. The original Prophet '08 will not be updated. Thanks for your support!
İs Dave by any chance related to God?
JSI. Jesus Smith Instruments
Well of course. He is the Prophet of the The Sacred Oscillation, The One True Waveform.
which one?
Aren’t we all? Some of us just ran away from home at an early age.
He is a god of synth design!
Give me, give me, give me Rev2 after midnight!!
How do they not know to keep the pitch & mod wheels aligned with the keys after all this time?
Pre-ordered the 8 voice version on the 10th of March but I'm impatient to know of it's exact shipping date ;(
I remembering calling Dave back when the P08 was just coming out; was curious about the 'Drift' function. I own a Rev2 P5(w/midi) and thought about selling it at the time. Dave told me sell it("it's old technology,wasn't meant to last 30+ years...") and get the 08 and that you can get that same 'warmth'. Went to my local music store to check out the P08.I walked out...still have my P5 ;)
Dave Smith Instruments - is it possible to work with Curtis Electronics and get the original VCO, VCF, VCA's reissued (I think they've already redone the VCO's) and start using them in your products? The chips that were used back in the day in your prophet 5, Jupiter 6, oberheim OB8, OBXa + a whole lot of other synths. They do have a very recognisable sound...and its something I would like to see. The REV2 and Prophet 6 are great synths...but I'd love to hear what you could do with the original chips. Also, is there any chance you could start adding analog effects to your line up?
Just as a side note - check out the artist Com Truise. He exclusively uses an old Sequential Split 8. Every synth sound on his albums are Split 8. Check out 'In Decay' and 'Galactic Melt'. Just goes to show analog is still relevant today...
Hmm... Very nice. I had an original P'08 and have a pot edition rack now (and a P'12 and a Pro-2). I am not so sure I would go for a Rev2 at this time. If the Pro-2 and P'12 would get mushed together into 16 voices with the filter structure and a polyphonic version of the sequencer of the Pro-2 then it would be time for an upgrade.
That would certainly be a monster synth!
I want one :)
I'm in love already! is there a price?
2000
omg omg omg
I'm being really excessive here, but can it poly chain with another rev2?
Just in case I want to play with my forehead...
Sadly no. I’m probably responding too late but no one else would
Please make a rack mountable version. Pretty please?
nice SURVIVE t shirt
Anyone know a Dave Smith?
That sang " Take it out? Etc?please!
Hopefully no digital strings attached?
DSI! Great work! Got the 08 as my first analog synth and returned it because it was difficult to program haha. Learned more about programming and eventually had to buy the 08 again and I will never turn back from DSI! A few things to note for you "Ahhh, digital effect! Keep it analog!" people... IF YOU RECORD AND MIX ON A DAW LIKE 99% OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS CENTURY THEN YOU NO LONGER HAVE A "PURE" ANALOG SIGNAL PATH... Ugh. The characteristics of analog are still retained since they are the ROOT of the sound being produced. All I have is analog synths, (P08 and Moog LP) but be realistic and logical, people. Don't be idiots. Love it all, DSI.
Can this dsi play mean funky sounds and leads im exhausted on pads and cinema crap
Hi, may I know if there is any difference between 8-voice version and 16-voice version besides the polyphony? I really like Rev2 by far but I do not really need 16 voices, so I may just want a 8-voice but cheaper version if other features are all the same.
I think they're the same but I'm not 100% certain.
love how the guy is really playing the instrument. who is it?
Nick Semrad! We thank him at the end of the video :)
thanks!
Dave, may I have one of these?
So can you stack multiple effects on to a single layer? Like reverb +chorus + delay on one layer and a different layer of effects on the other?
I would like to know this too. How many effects pr layer? Can both layers share effects?
at 2:02 he is writing on a white board "FX PER LAYER"!!!!!! I need this!
Still does not answer my question. How many fx per layer? I am guessing we can route the LFO and mod matrix to any effects simultaneously, thus i am hoping we can stack multiple effects on a single layer.
One effect per layer.
Cool
Great!..but just a few thoughts.
-The occurrence of crackling and aliasing on the prophet 08 when the amp envelope and velocity was cranked up was really not appealing in its sound. I did not like the way the 08 manual addressed it either. I hope this issue does not occur with the rev 2.
- I am one of those who love the sound of the 08 Curtis filter BUT it would be really great to have a hpf/bpf for the given price. I know that is asking a bit much.
- The slop function on the 08 left something to be desired especially when i heard the prophet 6.
- Please do not make me spend another dime on soundtower programs. (not a biggie)
I don't mean to come off as a snob. Either way, i am so happy you guys are releasing this. A definite must buy for me. I love the Rhodes and Wurlitzer sounds i can get out of the 08, i am stoked to have twice the poly and modulation parameters + effects O.O. Seriously, my 08 is already on the market. I was going to buy the DM12, but you guys came through just in time! Love DSI and made in SF!
The crackling when you turn up the amp envelope and velocity will happen with all our synths if you aren't mindful of your gain staging. We don't artificially limit any part of the signal path, because sometimes things can "break" in interesting ways. There's always a way to keep your program from overloading though, feel free to contact us if you'd like suggestions. The slop on the Prophet Rev2 is derived from the Prophet-6.
Thanks for your response!
Nishanth Dass hey dude. Any examples of the Rhodes sound you mentioned? That will be one of my first patches and I'm looking to hear some other examples.
FYI you can get bandpass/highpass using the 'hipass' (resonant) FX (digital but sounds good). You can use that with the lowpass to make any modulatable bandpass sound you wish, or high pass too obviously! Yeah you can do those sounds on this that you couldn't do on Prophet 08 thanks to that Filter FX built into the core engine and part of the patch.
hi phil, just saw your comment. I dont have any uploaded but check out this video clip...
ua-cam.com/video/w9-mLsDLThw/v-deo.html
check out 19:05
I have a question: If I had to choose between the Prophet 12 and the REV2, which one should I buy? What are the differences? It's the REV2 superior? Can I do with the REV2 the same with the Prophet 12 and more? Thanks for your answers
Please contact our dedicated support channel for in depth answers: support*at*davesmithinstruments*dotcom.
Another awesome job! HOW MUCH though? I wonder if I'll be able to afford this since the Prophet 6 and OB-6 are way out of my price range :(
This should be cheaper than both of those. He mentions in the video that he wanted to reduce the cost. It might be cheaper than a P08 when it was first released. Here's to hoping, though, right?
Let's keep our fingers crossed!
it's actually 1999$
telkmx damn! With the exchange rate for the pound so bad that's a fair bit more than the '08. Guess I'll have to get saving lol
There are 2 versions and 2 prices! 1499 for 8 voice, and 1999 for 16 voice, so I guess one version is cheaper, while the other is not, right?
lol … 4 of those Prophet ‘08 users that are listed are Thom Yorke, Johnny Greenwood, Radiohead, & Radiohead … ☺️
Release date?
Is there a Desktop Module yet???
Hi guys! I have a question. Can use the patch of my mopho and tetra here? I wanna sell tetra +mopho and buy prophet Rev 2, but don't wanna lost my prestes. Thanks! :)
Nice one Dave.. see you at Superbooth?..
Rev2 vs prophet6 ? Which is better?!
Yall should check out Nick Semrads channel. Hes the guy playing here and he has got such a jewel of a channel. Lots of solos of him on the prophet 08.
Does it come with a beatsynced arp/sequencer? I really love my 08 but its such a shame that it cannot be synced to a click track or something. (and the note order when 1 or 2 octaves isn't what anybody is looking for in my opion, you guys really need to check that, or will the prophet08's firmware will be updated someday so it will do the trick?)
Are there any plans to do a Rev2 module like you did for the original Prophet 08?
it'd be great if there was.. (no pressure)! lol
There are currently no plans to produce a module. Check back in 6 months or so and we might have a different answer, but so far it's not on the table.
Okay, thanks for the response. I already have a Prophet 12 so don't really need the Rev2 in keyboard form, so a module version with all the knobs would be perfect for me. That said, another DSI keyboard in my setup would look great in my studio! :)
Is there an update on a likely release date for the Rev2 in the UK yet?
multitimbrality ? at least 4 parts ? has it ?
What synth in the Dave Smith product line would be best for 80s 90s new wave music? I am playing in a 1980s new wave tribute band and need a synth for that but there are so many different Prophet models that I am confused what ones would be best for playing songs by the Cure, New Order, Duran Duran and Depeche Mode.
The Rev2 is completely capable of getting what you want, but the Prophet-6 is going to give you a wider sweet spot for those kinds of sounds so that would be our recommendation.
Is there an upgrade path from the Rev2 8 voice to 16 voice?
By that I mean if I were to purchase the 8 voice model rev2, is there any way to turn it into a 16 voice model in the future (can I purchase an upgrade), or would I have to sell my 8 voice rev2 and purchase a new 16 voice Rev2 instead?
Yes, there is an upgrade.
Brilliant news! :)
Thanks.
Will it be user installable?
What will the cost of the upgrade be?
User installable, no cost yet.
Thank you both. I came searching for the comments for that exact question!
Quick, tell Suzanne Ciani! I'd love to see what she thinks about this.
I think it is better to have limited features 100% sound path analog music equipment or instrument then with alot of features but there is something digital in the path.
But ofcause it will be more better to have alot of features 100% analog analog music equipment or instrument.
Speakign about this new Prohet if i was Dave Smith i would not include any digital effects there at all but atlist as i understand if i am not wrong he made an option to by pass them so sound path will be 100% analog.
100% analog if the effects are bypassed.
is prophet 6 better than prophet 08.. ? is prophet 08 dsi budget synth ?
Hey DSI,
8 voice too bitimbral?
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please, send one to nick for a sonicstate review!
Done.
ua-cam.com/video/YDL20eMJWlk/v-deo.html
Does anyone know how to get the sound at 3:13?
no, I look for the one at 2:56. DO you know if that is a preset?
Still wanting monophonic versions of Prophet 6 or OB6. Maybe under 800$?? Would be a dream heh.
The AS-1 from Pioneer DJ is basically a monophonic Prophet-6. Same sound engine. Designed by DSI. Price is $499.
We do know that both layers can use effect(s). But we don't know how many. Is it 1 for each layer and two for a single layer? Can you use two effects globaly for both layers?
Please elaborate on the effects. :)
One effect engine per layer for a total of two simultaneous effects.
habenwill
What does the ARP Mode button does ?? You should have dedicated 2 buttons for ARP (Off/divsion and octave). Really a pity that.. And how do we change patches in live situations ?? with encoders ?? we need dedicated buttons/numbers for changin patches !!!
There are two Arp buttons, Mode and On/Off. On/Off turns the Arp on and off, and Mode accesses the different modes like the number of octaves, number of repeats, and arpeggio type. Program change is by detented encoders with soft click, or MIDI. The encoders are dedicated so they do not share functions with anything else, and they are very responsive so it's easy to increment or decrement by a single program if that's what you want to do.
Is the manual available for download ??
Not yet, probably in about a month.
16 voices for $2000 :-)
Looks great, I hope they don't stick too much tax (etc) on in Europe.
Voice tax? :P
I recently got 12 voices for $1000. ;-)
Did your 12 voices come with a patch editor?
Downloadable from the manufacturer's web site, free of charge. Available for both PC and Mac (I'm on Mac). Works well. Haven't tried the Wi-Fi mode yet...
Wonder why he's dropped the 'Prophet' name from it? And not used the 'Sequential' name.
Probably the same logic with the Pro2; different components and designs that take it in that general prophet direction but branch off in fun new ways. Kudos to him and his team. Really looks great.
hogberto he has not dropped the "prophet" name...it's clearly stated that this is a "prophet rev2".
Ah, that's interesting. When it was first announced, it was just the 'REV 2'. See for example the video above at 1:55. But I see now that they have decided to brand it as the 'PROPHET REV 2'. Good to see the Prophet name live on.
yep, in the video the keyboard's sticker only says "rev 2" in bold but the product images on the web site has a different sticker with the word Prophet in bold.
Its not a sticker, its directly printed.
Well, several months after my initial comment, I bought one (16 voices model) and, part of what I said is still true, but part of it is not. It's still is a Curtis chips machine, but Dave has done something to them that lessens the "coloring" or "flavor", so that the REV2 is half way between a Prophet 6 and a Prophet 08, IMHO. And I like it.
Also, Dave did not mention in this video that the REV2 is also probably a direct reaction to the very successful 12 voices, very first polysynth from Behringer, the Deepmind 12, which I also own and is an unbeatable value for price good sounding machine.
Haha... great vid', don't know whether it makes me lust for a REV2 to complement my PEK, or just for Nick Semrad's talent :-) Anyway, nice to see an improved osc slop function, question : is it a modulation destination (should be) ? I guess there's still no FM appart from the filter's "audio mod" ?
dave, the only thing you can do is build great synths, i would be pissed :---)
By the way does Rev2 have a sub oscillator this time around??
Sub oscillator on OSC1, if I read correctly.
Same spec as the '08, but with an enhanced Mod - matrix, according to the DSI site.
Sub oscillator on Osc 1.
Dave Smith Instruments Words from the wise.. Thank u..
bring colors back Dave