With any bone conditioning, LESS IS MORE. In order to harden your knuckles or any bone, you have to put enough pressure/trauma on your knuckles to soften the tissue and cause micro-fractures. This takes time to recover from. Any exercise with a specific goal of bone hardening should be done briefly, intensely, infrequently and with rest days following. Edit: When i say infrequent, I mean no more than once every ten days, and less frequently is okay too.
9 day rest 1 day training bullshits = 1 year you training 36 day and 329 day rest..stupid. Look my hand i am training 4 day a week and i can break bricks ...stones.
Saw a documentary on hands. They showed an xRay of a regular person vs a mountain climer. The regular persons was a dull grey vs the mountain climber what was bright white. Years of constant stress had ment the bones a lot more mineral dense so harder. PS hand conditioning just impact type discussed, what about strengthening the wrist for stability amd grip strength stronf man style and see what that does.
Your very right my friend! in fact even when training muscles you tear them in the process as well as making them stronger, but like you said the bone needs a little more recovery time
What's the max amount of days each week and times in each day to do knuckle training that brings the most benefits and least amount of issues? Just watched Brutal Bostwick in a knuckle conditioning video on Phil Daru's channel (which I can link if you want) where he starts with a 200lb sand bag and moves on to a heavybag as he says beginners should start with that first instead of the sand. He says in a day 5-7 rounds of 1 minute on/1 minute off of light or at least not too hard and not too soft punches (I think he said around 50%-60% at some point but idk if he meant that for in general or if it was for the heavybag he was punching at that part of the video) in all kinds of angles possible to condition as many parts of your knuckles as possible and to cover many directions possible based on which parts of your knuckles may or will land when hitting someone (even open-palmed backhand hits were done in the video). And he said a few days a week because doing more will more likely bring unwanted damage. When he said that part I thought 3 days a week will be the highest possible to avoid this situation. But can I squeeze in more such as 4 days, hence my question at the beginning?
I did a lot of light knuckle conditioning over the years and I think it does help strengthen the fist, that being said I also got angry one time and punched a hardwood floor at full force, I ended up breaking one of the bones in my hand and it didn't heal perfectly. If you knuckle condition, do it light kids!
Coz I didn't do any knuckle conditioning but I had anger issues so I punched concrete wall many times and nearly all my knuckles have cracked so I was asking
Reminds me of when I got angry enough to punch my door and, because I wasn't used to punching inanimate objects and was too angry to think clearly, the punch ended up leading with my pinky knuckle. The bone obviously snapped from the impact - because ofc it did - and even 25 years later, there's still a noticeable bulge in my right hand from where the bone healed. Doctors offered to re-break my hand and set it properly (since I didn't go to them until about two weeks later - I figured the tendons were simply swollen), but I ultimately decided against it since I didn't mind the extra girth I ended up with and it was a fun little reminder not to punch at that angle again. My only regret is that I didn't break through my particleboard door, even though it would have led to yet more hassle and possibly some extra bleeding.
I've known individuals that have done knuckle conditioning while also training/strength conditioning. They don't have any problems. It's just like calluses anywhere else on the body. It's also just another tool to the tool belt of training. It should just be built up just like everything else, along with everything else. You're not going to be wearing wraps in the street when you fight, so it's best to train everything. Let everything grow as you grow.
Do they have social media or no (if they do, please drop their @s and platforms)? I wanna be able to punch hard with my bare knuckles, limbs, head, and body and be unscathed and unaffected so if I do get around training with knuckle conditioning and other body parts, may I ask you tons of questions on it for you to relay to them? And if you also have knowledge on conditioning body parts, I also wouldn't mind your expertise.
@@twentyonetortas5921 you can't condition your head lol. I hope in the 1 year you commented this you still have a functioning brain because banging it against things will literally make you go braindead. Also accumulative blows to the head even little taps still damages your brain and can cause CTE.
@@twentyonetortas5921 I'm a high beginner in conditioning, I have a lot of knowledge, but so far, I have put a little to use, I can answer any questions you may have, but I will only tell you what I've been doing, and what has worked for me
Here's what I've studied. Most punching injuries and fractures aren't on the knuckles, they are on the bones of the hand, mostly the metacarpals. Example, the Boxer's fracture, a common injury in boxing. Also notice what part hurts after a long hard bag/wall session. It's mostly the last metacarpal. Hypertrophying the tissue in your hand is much more important than your knuckles. Muscle grows way faster than bone. Use hand grippers at various angles. Focus on growing the lumbricals, the opponens policis, adductor policis brevis, flexor policis brevis, and flexor digiti minimi muscles. Also about 5% of your punching volume, bagwork should be bare knuckle. Not only does it condition the hand and skin, it also forces you to use proper technique because gloves allow you to get away with improper allignment.
Wait can the cons of knuckle conditioning be prevented by gradually increasing the training slowly and get enough recovery time? I think people who train for knuckle conditioning overtrained their palms and knuckles. Like the shaolin iron palm training
@@coachmasonn I punch my steel weight plates(flat side). I started with wood very weak and slowly conditioned them to punch concrete and steel. Never full force I increase the strength of punches over time. My knuckles could be harder but there pretty damn hard to the average person. I also train grip and grippers. My hands never hurt if they do I give them a few days off. No expert by any means I couldn't find much info on it so I learned everything myself being careful. Thanks for those links bro!
@@vivid8480 on and off years lol start very lightly for the first few months and gradually build up to harder hits and material you punch. If you're Consistent within a couple years your hands will be pretty damn hard. I've been Consistent the last year and my hands have hardened to the point when I fist bump people they comment on how hard my hands are. I also train grip which has calloused and toughened them further. You got your whole life ahead of you I'd say go for it and be careful easy to break your hand in the beginning.
@@vivid8480 my pleasure brother im here to help people in this life. I'm no master just someone passionate about hand strength. Appreciate you man wishing you an amazing life as well.
This is a pretty well balanced take. I think its useful to do some conditioning of the body weapons, as it does boost confidence and ability to an extent. But like anything, it can be taken to too far of an extreme and cause damage and disability. Being able to punch effectively is a great ability to have, but so is being able to eat, wipe your own ass, change spark plugs and other things you will do more often in life.
All you have to do is knuckle pushups go barre knuckle on the heavy bag and pads build stability in your wrists,I'm a kyokushin karateka and you will never see a kyokushin or a lethwei fighter hits a wall to condition their knuckles,punching barre knuckle is more about techniques.
Knuckle/ hand conditioning is perfectly fine as long as do it properly and take the necessary precautions so you don’t cause more harm than good. Use your sense, not your ego with this one and listen to your body. It’s not for everybody even amongst fighting men. I used to increment a little bit of hand conditioning when I was boxing but not too much because my hands would of never caught a break. But when I would do it I found that it done more than build my hands it strengthens your mindset too.
Micro fracture them from Monday to Wednesday for 5 sets of 5 minutes and then Thursday to Sunday let them recover and keep doing this over and over again and make sure u take vitamin d + vitamin k2 and drink milk everyday, this will help regrow the knuckles
Man, I see you have potencial to become a great and successful youtuber, but I think you are missing something and I don´t know what it is (it doesn't have to be related to knukles that's for sure). I hope you find it and blow up because you already have a good understanding of video making: the transitions, the soft music, the pace of speech, ... Maybe talking about things people have heard of but don't really know regarding to training and martial arts can be a niche for you (idk I'm just trying to help). Keep up the good work bro, I'd love to see you grow!
I mean the only thing I found out was from fight tips. But I guess for knuckle conditioning it has to be studied before and done correctly gradually. Everything is hypothetical until you apply it yourself-someguy
See i would have to put out an opinion on this because Bruce lee when he was still alive did knuckle conditions back in the 60’s he would punch gravel, ball bearing, or sand to condition his punching and his hand strikes. So knuckle push ups or punch the punching bag with no gloves or wraps. He was really hardcore about body conditioning; definitely look up the Bruce lee fighting method
Good old knuckle push ups bare fist puching a bag or wall target and a few squeezes of a hand grip for each hand, also look at the type of martiel arts you training that what I'd do but everyone's different
I can tell you being a world record holder/power breaker with a reverse punch, knuckle conditioning has given me extensive nerve damage. I had carpal tunnel release on both hands and that did help. Power breaking is a great avenue in the Martial Arts, but realize that you have the possibly of doing damage to yourself. Not everyone has damage like me, just to be clear, but the damage is done. Honestly, I wouldn't change a thing. The journey was great. But that's what's great about Martial Arts in general. There are so many avenues you can go down to train. Striking, grappling, Kata, etc. And you can train in Martial Arts until you die unlike most "sports". But I do believe that bone conditioning is a must for self defense so your body is used to taking shots and also dishing them out. Much Respect
@@mac3695 Before surgery I had a lot of numbness to the point it was hard to drive. I had both hands done at once. I had a little soreness but really no pain. It takes several weeks, maybe months to get all your strength back. Now I have no problems or numbness… knock on wood. Some Dr’s won’t do both hands at once because they’re afraid you will be unable to many day to day things like “ using TP”…lol….but I had no problem
''Knuckle conditioning'' is kind of a dumb way to call it. When I looked into older instruction books they don't really talk about ''Knuckle conditioning'' but rather using stuff like trees rocks and makiwara because that was their punching bag. If your goal is to fight in a cage or a ring you definitely don't need it.
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We used to sometimes do knuckle push ups in boxing training, nowadays I only do them because I cant support my weight on my hands without it being very painful due to a wrist injury with normal pushups that angle the hand. Its not painful on the wrist with knuckle push-ups
I appreciate you saying whatever works for you. Because it really does depend on the person and what they are going for. If you wanna be a boxer no reason to do this. But if you wanna do bare knuckle stuff it's best to harden your knuckles. I did bareknuckle training for years, punching a thick wooden board that didn't even have the rope padding karate practitioners use. Because of this whenever I'm working the heavybag I work it bareknuckle, legit the only injuries I get is between my knuckles where the air pocket leaves these circular cuts. It hasn't really effected my dexterity at all. I still draw on a regular basis. This is all with grappling with carpel tunnel that I've had for years due to being a gaming addict most of my life. In my opinion it's all what works for you. Most people hate the prospect of headbutts, I've been doing amateur sumo for 2 years and my go to tachiai is a head tachiai. I'm one of those that pain really isn't a hindrance, but I'm not gonna say my way is better. Even though my mindset has let me power through having my neck thrusted into, my opponents can often beat me by using my brute force against me. Ive been flipped onto the ground more times than I can count by people half my size. The moral is, do what you feel is right. I'm a dude that looks up to people like Tony Ferguson. Durability is my style.
True. However if you still want to condition your hands, you need to train with someone who knows how to. Traditionally they use Dit Dat Jow linaments to avoid injury, even then if you overtrain you can injure your hand. Just like any conditioning or body building exercise, you just need to know prper technique when training.
You don't? What walls do you punch exactly? How hard do you punch? And how do you not get blisters and injuries and not have your knuckles physically change in appearance?
I practice Iron Fist for yrs, I had some of the biggest scariest callused knuckles , I can show u some photos if u want . I have a video on my channel called Iron Fist just10 seconds . If u use dit dow jow your good..
To do it properly you have to build calus on the bone not damage nerves/tendon i watched shaolin monks alot when i was younger and they will hang sheets of paper agaisnt brick will and beat it til they reach the brick and repeat the process til they eventually wear throigh the brick but the paper layers id key it prevents damage to skin while strengthening bone and increasing punching power. They did kill like hundreds of Hitler's soldiers bare handed aswell so their is some serious legibility to their technique also I have used it it's peaceful and a towel and boards work fine also just make sure towel is really rolled up well lol.
So researched it and ya knuckle conditioning work the process is called cornical reargument .when you put pressure on the knuckles there calcium structure get fractured and the body takes the split structure and Build's a new one on top of it in the prosses making the knuckles stronger and densier
Personally, I want to preserve my dexterity while also hardening my main two punching knuckles, in order to be able to do bare knuckle boxing training. Once I can, I'll try some knuckle push-ups, but probably first order of business is to punch that heavy bag with some wraps on (I tried without wraps and the wound's still healing three days later).
@@coachmasonn Turns out the wraps also weren't enough when punching the bag for 45min or so (was fine ~10-15min). Had to get MMA gloves and will get there much slower, I'm afraid.
It depends on the sport you compete in. You really need them condition if you are in bareknuckle fighting. Either that or break your hand:knuckles every fight
i have been in several fights end can safely say that if you have condition your knuckles to a surten extent you can safely use your hands to whatever you want rather that be fighting painting or other things you normaly use your hands for. i am probably the only one in those fights who actually broke somones jaw bone with one hit. i could only do it bc my hand was trained for it i would other wise break my hand if not. i would say just conditon them to a sertan extent just dont over do it to a point were your just making the skin harder. the point is to make the bone stronger not the skin. 👊
In line with another coment here, the question is just about letting your bones heal and never stressing them to the point of permanent/serious damage. I've been punching walls, lead containers, trees and such since I was 13, I'm 39 now soon to be 40 and I had literally zero damage in my hands. I mean, I love drawing, dancing and writting and everything works perfectly. Constant conditioning is useless and harmful indeed but the "micro fractures and proper healing process" works wonderfully. So you don't even need to spend your precious training time on something "potentially useless" (spoiler: it is not useless).
Is hitting the bag not knuckle conditioning? Most videos say don't condition hands, hit the bag instead...but like you bit that with your knuckles. And if that doesn't condition then we must have different meanings of conditioning.
hi, I like your explanation, but I myself have tried to practice makiwara and the results were quite satisfactory. it makes me stronger than before. but we must respect each other
The original intent of karate was a fighting art, not a sport. With that perspective, you should train your hands to withstand the punishment you will encounter in a STREET FIGHT. If you punch someone and hit a big belt buckle or hit their forehead, then YOU will be in pain and open for a counter attack. The reason a karate-ka hits with the two largest knuckles is to concentrate all his punching force into a smaller area rather than like a boxer who hits with all four knuckles. Concentrating the force is what will allow you to break a rib and drive it into the body rather than just knocking the wind out of someone. Have you seen the videos of Okinawan karate-kas banging forearms? Can you imagine what would happen if an attacker tried to grab one of them by the throat or shirt? A forearm smash to an untrained arm is debilitating. Try it, you'll see. Things like that create openings where you can launch other attacks and put an attacker out of commission and let you get away. Remember how much it hurt when you first started training your kicks? Without toughening, you will throw one kick and be crying from the pain. You HAVE TO condition your weapons. Even using brass knuckles takes training. They hurt and you have to alter your hand/arm angle to use them. But as in all things, extremism is not a healthy way. Condition, not deform and cripple yourself.
I agree, you need a balanced approach for training. You can make your hands tougher, but not to the point where your health is at risk or u neglect technique.
Been doing conditioning for awhile on a bag of beans wrapped in tape. Started off not being able to slap the dummy but now I can beat the hell out of it. It does not take a long time for me. Going on about 2.5 years. 20-30 slaps, hammer fists, back fists, boxer knuckles, top knuckles, finger tips. 15 mins or so. I do it usually only 2 days a week though (with Jow sometimes). Just see it less for sport and more for "i have to use these as weapons against unresisting people to survive" and I'm going to thrust their eyes or smash them. Plenty of elders with hard knuckles in Okinawan and similar who are fine. If you do sword motions (slashing, backhand motions etc) it makes them work all the better 🙂. Being able to punch full forcebare knuckle/miss sometimes and hit a wall and keep going ..that's gold. When I was a cop I would always check the knuckles of the fighters when there was a domestic or similar. They'd break their knuckles/fingers. I don't break mine and even (with forearm, ribs, shin) conditioning, have taken some hard hits on them with rattan sticks and I am ok.
great video man........I don't believe in over conditioning my knuckles, yes, you do have to condition them but not over doing it. I don't believe in smashing solid object to a point where the skin of your knuckles and bones are useless for days or weeks. I had no idea when I started training when i was 13 in "73. Watching to many old Kung Fu movies, hitting sand bags. Crazy!! I since practice Praying Mantis and learnt different hand conditioning. Thanks for the vid. man.
as a sport a do boxing. the only type of knucle contioning ive ever really done is just knucle push ups in the mornings and at training (with wraps on during training but not in the mornings) after about a week or so my knucles begin to form cuts and gashes, even on my finger joints and to prevent infection or bleeding i've started to do knucles one week, open hand pushups the next week to let them heal, the thing is that my knucles dont really form caulles from it, just dryness and thats it. is there a reason for that or do caulles form from CONSTANT repetition even through bleeding? (i do them on a carpet in the mornings and that usually does the most "damage" also ive been doing knucles for abt 2 months, maybe more) just wondering if i could get some thoughts on this
@@coachmasonn Thanks for the reply. With a vertical fist, when you strike the face with a straight, does your index knuckle connect or do you have to tilt the wrist forward slightly? I know some say the wrist must always be straight when striking but is some deviation allowed to let the correct knuckles to land?
@@AK_UK_ you are supposed to punch with the first two knuckles, in full contact karate, a hook punch, has you hit from the side, with the first two knuckles, I hope that helps, for straight punches, it's more reliable to use a vertical fist, I sometimes tilt my hand, but you have to be careful, because if you do it too much, it bends all the way
I went back to my traditional dojo after 30 years; I met up with karatekas who had continued with makiwara training the 30 years I was into Savate and boxing. I asked them about any damage or amoralities they have received from their conditioning training, and none of these karatekas experienced any symptoms. They did just basic work, not that metal punching like in your video. It looks like conditioning in moderation will not destroy your bones.
If we don't train our knuckles then how will we be able to break earthen pots, bricks as like shaolin warriors do. And you said we should be bigger martial artist but one of the best MA Bruce Lee said "size doesn't matter" and I'm agree with his this point because our focus should be to gain abilities and skills, not appearance.
I used to have the same mindset. But after seeing plenty of Askari/King of the streets fights with opponents weighing 20kg or more than the other, and some being much taller than the other, and the larger one still losing, I changed my mind. These are all equal fighters most of the time, but it is mindset/attitude/resilience hat wins the fight, not sheer training, size or skill. I would argue that in a fight between untrained fighters or a fight with one trained fighter and one untrained fighter that the larger opponent wins especially if he gets his bodyweight/momentum in a dominant position. In the end, anyone can go down with some bad luck and a correct strike. It's a very interesting dynamic though!
Masaaki Hatsumi, when asked, said that building enough calluses to not split your knuckles is good, but, intelligent people do not disfigure themselves on purpose.
I think it’s useful in moderation. Not the way some of those mangled hand masters etc. I do a little of it but not over the top. I’d rather focus that time on hand strength and wrist stability
Like any aspect of training. You must train with proper guidance, not hitting walls or immovable objects. Comment to me here, I will explain in detail how I've trained my fist without damage.
Not all the time you wear your gloves If it is a street fight you need to knock out your opponent in single strike and face others after In short iron fist is the solution That abnormal condition of finger by those masters they got by practicing their fingers on a pan of sand burning with fire
I think knuckle conditioning can work, but firstly, it shouldn't be your main focus... By that, i mean, you should train all the other aspects too like your strength,especially if you want to be a better fighter. Also, we should listen to our body,maybe do it on certain days of the week and give them time for recovery. Listen to our body, if it hurts... the way it hurts like if its joint pain, take time off till it heals up, if its the skin, i think its okay to continue... Just my 2 cents, peace
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So youre telling me when youre hitting a 200 hundred pound man and just cause you hit hard ?your knuckles wont break or your skin wont tear? If you used your hands as weapons youd known thru pain tolerance and conditioning brings strength
the only way that i know of conditioning the knuckles without harming yourself is doing pushups on your fists every other method i saw at the end mostly ends in some type of injury
I can break, squeeze or bend pretty hard objects and my whole hands are very conditioned, but I have so many broken or crushed bones, that sometimes, even without pressure, it hurts like when you know that Santa isn't real. Don't follow my way, dudes, it's not worth it at all.
Mas Oyama: the man with perhaps the best hand conditioning in the modern age, was so crippled at the end of his life he couldn't eat without specialized utensils.
When i began martial arts i would punch a concrete walls when i was indoors 😂 to be sincere it is beneficial but punching concrete walls made me get lots of injuries they were not that much problematic but reduced with time due to improvement of punching techic. So if i had anything i could say about anyone who is trying to condition the knuckles u can use some layer of protection before u are used to it. Get used to two knuckles push up and focus on improving your punching technic everyday
Ive done iron hand for about 7 years total and from experience going from whipping my hands into rope wrapped wood right up to full force on solid steel I can safely tell you: you will break bones and you will go through times where youve injured yourself so badly your hand is unusable. A few months ago I hit a palm strike on a block concrete the wrong way and broke my hamet bone after 7 years of conditioning. In the long run all youre really doing is giving yourself arthritis, if you commit to iron hand do it because you enjoy hitting things that dont break, not because you think youre getting stronger 😅😅😅
I'd like to know if a strong man can punch hard bare knuckle. Why isn't developing wrist and hand strength considered hand conditioning? Too much asian influence of mindlessly doing what the master says, 90% the time this is a good thing but.... Ps i started strengthening thumb just by pulling on a theraband and found got strong quick for work as was pulling on big slippery hoses doing concrete spraying.. Also when I make a fist now the thumb sort of acts as a hand wrap as pulls all the fingers together. I punched a wall harder and harder to see if could take it and zero wrist problem which what used to happen to me. Knuckle sore a few days later and hurts to open close hand, not keen on that.. rather focus wrost and grip strength maybe some push upw on knuckles if doesnt mess up dexterity too much...maybe get as strong as can in hand and wrist then retry the knuckle push ups.i dont see how can strenchen the joint when filled with cartilage bursa miniwcus whose whole purpose is to be soft move easily.
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I punched two kinds of makiwara boards for about 12-15 years. I stopped right after I heard Higaonna, the son of the founder of Okinawan Goju Ryu was diagnosed with terrible arthritis. I have pretty tough hands, not quite hard rock hands, but I don’t suffer from rheumatism. It’s a trade off. Suffer the consequences in later years, but in younger years you’ll have hard hands. Won’t do much with them, they’ll look like hooves, but they’ll be strong. Or- have normal soft hands which you can use, and have no defects in later years. The choice is kinda obvious.
Ive been doing hand conditioning for close to 40 yrs. No arthritis or even crazy calluses. Some but not crazy. I use both a rope makiwara and a sand bag. I wear bag gloves but not wraps. I wear bag gloves while using public equipment. I also play guitar and use that as my gauge as to if its effecting my dexterity. Frequency over volume is key. A little done often is best.
you could do 50 a day which doesn't take alot of your ''precious'' time and you would have drastic improvements overtime, not to mention Mas Oyama conditioning and doing all kinds of training for 10 hours a day why can't you?
With any bone conditioning, LESS IS MORE. In order to harden your knuckles or any bone, you have to put enough pressure/trauma on your knuckles to soften the tissue and cause micro-fractures. This takes time to recover from. Any exercise with a specific goal of bone hardening should be done briefly, intensely, infrequently and with rest days following.
Edit: When i say infrequent, I mean no more than once every ten days, and less frequently is okay too.
9 day rest 1 day training bullshits = 1 year you training 36 day and 329 day rest..stupid. Look my hand i am training 4 day a week and i can break bricks ...stones.
Saw a documentary on hands. They showed an xRay of a regular person vs a mountain climer. The regular persons was a dull grey vs the mountain climber what was bright white. Years of constant stress had ment the bones a lot more mineral dense so harder. PS hand conditioning just impact type discussed, what about strengthening the wrist for stability amd grip strength stronf man style and see what that does.
Your very right my friend! in fact even when training muscles you tear them in the process as well as making them stronger, but like you said the bone needs a little more recovery time
@@nikitaw1982 Grip and wrist strengthening exercises can be done every day if you want as long as you moderate the volume and/or intensity.
What's the max amount of days each week and times in each day to do knuckle training that brings the most benefits and least amount of issues? Just watched Brutal Bostwick in a knuckle conditioning video on Phil Daru's channel (which I can link if you want) where he starts with a 200lb sand bag and moves on to a heavybag as he says beginners should start with that first instead of the sand. He says in a day 5-7 rounds of 1 minute on/1 minute off of light or at least not too hard and not too soft punches (I think he said around 50%-60% at some point but idk if he meant that for in general or if it was for the heavybag he was punching at that part of the video) in all kinds of angles possible to condition as many parts of your knuckles as possible and to cover many directions possible based on which parts of your knuckles may or will land when hitting someone (even open-palmed backhand hits were done in the video). And he said a few days a week because doing more will more likely bring unwanted damage. When he said that part I thought 3 days a week will be the highest possible to avoid this situation. But can I squeeze in more such as 4 days, hence my question at the beginning?
I did a lot of light knuckle conditioning over the years and I think it does help strengthen the fist, that being said I also got angry one time and punched a hardwood floor at full force, I ended up breaking one of the bones in my hand and it didn't heal perfectly. If you knuckle condition, do it light kids!
Do you have a crack in one or two of ur knuckle right ?
@@sharansbudihalmath4779 I punch with my first two knuckles but cracked one bone behind my middle knuckle. I definitely won't do that again, lol
Coz I didn't do any knuckle conditioning but I had anger issues so I punched concrete wall many times and nearly all my knuckles have cracked so I was asking
@@sharansbudihalmath4779 Yeah, it's not worth it.
Reminds me of when I got angry enough to punch my door and, because I wasn't used to punching inanimate objects and was too angry to think clearly, the punch ended up leading with my pinky knuckle. The bone obviously snapped from the impact - because ofc it did - and even 25 years later, there's still a noticeable bulge in my right hand from where the bone healed. Doctors offered to re-break my hand and set it properly (since I didn't go to them until about two weeks later - I figured the tendons were simply swollen), but I ultimately decided against it since I didn't mind the extra girth I ended up with and it was a fun little reminder not to punch at that angle again.
My only regret is that I didn't break through my particleboard door, even though it would have led to yet more hassle and possibly some extra bleeding.
I've known individuals that have done knuckle conditioning while also training/strength conditioning. They don't have any problems. It's just like calluses anywhere else on the body. It's also just another tool to the tool belt of training. It should just be built up just like everything else, along with everything else. You're not going to be wearing wraps in the street when you fight, so it's best to train everything. Let everything grow as you grow.
Do they have social media or no (if they do, please drop their @s and platforms)? I wanna be able to punch hard with my bare knuckles, limbs, head, and body and be unscathed and unaffected so if I do get around training with knuckle conditioning and other body parts, may I ask you tons of questions on it for you to relay to them? And if you also have knowledge on conditioning body parts, I also wouldn't mind your expertise.
@@twentyonetortas5921 you can't condition your head lol. I hope in the 1 year you commented this you still have a functioning brain because banging it against things will literally make you go braindead. Also accumulative blows to the head even little taps still damages your brain and can cause CTE.
@@twentyonetortas5921 if you're still interested I've done it
@@twentyonetortas5921 I'm a high beginner in conditioning, I have a lot of knowledge, but so far, I have put a little to use, I can answer any questions you may have, but I will only tell you what I've been doing, and what has worked for me
I want to learn knuckle conditioning cuz I broke my knuckle in a fight and realised that with great power come great responsibility 🤣
Same here. My biggest fear it will happen again. Any tips?
@@jasonbourne4127 hit the a hard sandbag or leather bag to condition the fist, and practice palm heel strikes Bas rutten style.
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@@jasonbourne4127 I thought according to the films, you don't have any fears...
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Sir you are telling the truth .I have been training since I was 6. I am 61 now and the old WAY hurt alot of us. THANK -YOU FOR WARING THE YOUNG !!!!
Here's what I've studied.
Most punching injuries and fractures aren't on the knuckles, they are on the bones of the hand, mostly the metacarpals. Example, the Boxer's fracture, a common injury in boxing. Also notice what part hurts after a long hard bag/wall session. It's mostly the last metacarpal. Hypertrophying the tissue in your hand is much more important than your knuckles. Muscle grows way faster than bone. Use hand grippers at various angles. Focus on growing the lumbricals, the opponens policis, adductor policis brevis, flexor policis brevis, and flexor digiti minimi muscles.
Also about 5% of your punching volume, bagwork should be bare knuckle. Not only does it condition the hand and skin, it also forces you to use proper technique because gloves allow you to get away with improper allignment.
Wait can the cons of knuckle conditioning be prevented by gradually increasing the training slowly and get enough recovery time? I think people who train for knuckle conditioning overtrained their palms and knuckles. Like the shaolin iron palm training
@@coachmasonn I punch my steel weight plates(flat side). I started with wood very weak and slowly conditioned them to punch concrete and steel. Never full force I increase the strength of punches over time. My knuckles could be harder but there pretty damn hard to the average person. I also train grip and grippers. My hands never hurt if they do I give them a few days off. No expert by any means I couldn't find much info on it so I learned everything myself being careful. Thanks for those links bro!
@@TheGripMuse how long did it take ?
@@vivid8480 on and off years lol start very lightly for the first few months and gradually build up to harder hits and material you punch. If you're Consistent within a couple years your hands will be pretty damn hard. I've been Consistent the last year and my hands have hardened to the point when I fist bump people they comment on how hard my hands are. I also train grip which has calloused and toughened them further. You got your whole life ahead of you I'd say go for it and be careful easy to break your hand in the beginning.
@@TheGripMuse appreciate the advice man I’ll take this in and look forward to it. Have a good life mr !
@@vivid8480 my pleasure brother im here to help people in this life. I'm no master just someone passionate about hand strength. Appreciate you man wishing you an amazing life as well.
This is a pretty well balanced take. I think its useful to do some conditioning of the body weapons, as it does boost confidence and ability to an extent. But like anything, it can be taken to too far of an extreme and cause damage and disability.
Being able to punch effectively is a great ability to have, but so is being able to eat, wipe your own ass, change spark plugs and other things you will do more often in life.
Definitely agree here!
All you have to do is knuckle pushups go barre knuckle on the heavy bag and pads build stability in your wrists,I'm a kyokushin karateka and you will never see a kyokushin or a lethwei fighter hits a wall to condition their knuckles,punching barre knuckle is more about techniques.
Hello brot thats what i do in my trainning, lot of knuckle push ups, and hitting the bag with technnique
Knuckle/ hand conditioning is perfectly fine as long as do it properly and take the necessary precautions so you don’t cause more harm than good. Use your sense, not your ego with this one and listen to your body. It’s not for everybody even amongst fighting men. I used to increment a little bit of hand conditioning when I was boxing but not too much because my hands would of never caught a break. But when I would do it I found that it done more than build my hands it strengthens your mindset too.
Micro fracture them from Monday to Wednesday for 5 sets of 5 minutes and then Thursday to Sunday let them recover and keep doing this over and over again and make sure u take vitamin d + vitamin k2 and drink milk everyday, this will help regrow the knuckles
How many months do we need to do to strengthen the fist?
Man, I see you have potencial to become a great and successful youtuber, but I think you are missing something and I don´t know what it is (it doesn't have to be related to knukles that's for sure). I hope you find it and blow up because you already have a good understanding of video making: the transitions, the soft music, the pace of speech, ... Maybe talking about things people have heard of but don't really know regarding to training and martial arts can be a niche for you (idk I'm just trying to help). Keep up the good work bro, I'd love to see you grow!
I mean the only thing I found out was from fight tips. But I guess for knuckle conditioning it has to be studied before and done correctly gradually. Everything is hypothetical until you apply it yourself-someguy
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See i would have to put out an opinion on this because Bruce lee when he was still alive did knuckle conditions back in the 60’s he would punch gravel, ball bearing, or sand to condition his punching and his hand strikes. So knuckle push ups or punch the punching bag with no gloves or wraps. He was really hardcore about body conditioning; definitely look up the Bruce lee fighting method
Lift weights grab bars that'll condition your hands conditioning shouldn't hurt
Good old knuckle push ups bare fist puching a bag or wall target and a few squeezes of a hand grip for each hand, also look at the type of martiel arts you training that what I'd do but everyone's different
I can tell you being a world record holder/power breaker with a reverse punch, knuckle conditioning has given me extensive nerve damage. I had carpal tunnel release on both hands and that did help.
Power breaking is a great avenue in the Martial Arts, but realize that you have the possibly of doing damage to yourself.
Not everyone has damage like me, just to be clear, but the damage is done. Honestly, I wouldn't change a thing. The journey was great.
But that's what's great about Martial Arts in general. There are so many avenues you can go down to train. Striking, grappling, Kata, etc. And you can train in Martial Arts until you die unlike most "sports".
But I do believe that bone conditioning is a must for self defense so your body is used to taking shots and also dishing them out.
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How bad is the pain and how often do they hurt. Has the carpal tunnel limited the ability to use your hand?
@@mac3695 Before surgery I had a lot of numbness to the point it was hard to drive. I had both hands done at once. I had a little soreness but really no pain. It takes several weeks, maybe months to get all your strength back. Now I have no problems or numbness… knock on wood. Some Dr’s won’t do both hands at once because they’re afraid you will be unable to many day to day things like “ using TP”…lol….but I had no problem
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@@osamabitladin5487 yes it is. I think, in my opinion, you have to be the best of the best.
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''Knuckle conditioning'' is kind of a dumb way to call it. When I looked into older instruction books they don't really talk about ''Knuckle conditioning'' but rather using stuff like trees rocks and makiwara because that was their punching bag. If your goal is to fight in a cage or a ring you definitely don't need it.
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We used to sometimes do knuckle push ups in boxing training, nowadays I only do them because I cant support my weight on my hands without it being very painful due to a wrist injury with normal pushups that angle the hand. Its not painful on the wrist with knuckle push-ups
Sometimes at the end of my training sessions, I’ll do a bareknuckle heavy bag cooldown. Not going 100%, just focusing on technique and accuracy.
I appreciate you saying whatever works for you. Because it really does depend on the person and what they are going for. If you wanna be a boxer no reason to do this. But if you wanna do bare knuckle stuff it's best to harden your knuckles.
I did bareknuckle training for years, punching a thick wooden board that didn't even have the rope padding karate practitioners use. Because of this whenever I'm working the heavybag I work it bareknuckle, legit the only injuries I get is between my knuckles where the air pocket leaves these circular cuts.
It hasn't really effected my dexterity at all. I still draw on a regular basis. This is all with grappling with carpel tunnel that I've had for years due to being a gaming addict most of my life.
In my opinion it's all what works for you. Most people hate the prospect of headbutts, I've been doing amateur sumo for 2 years and my go to tachiai is a head tachiai. I'm one of those that pain really isn't a hindrance, but I'm not gonna say my way is better. Even though my mindset has let me power through having my neck thrusted into, my opponents can often beat me by using my brute force against me. Ive been flipped onto the ground more times than I can count by people half my size.
The moral is, do what you feel is right. I'm a dude that looks up to people like Tony Ferguson. Durability is my style.
True. However if you still want to condition your hands, you need to train with someone who knows how to. Traditionally they use Dit Dat Jow linaments to avoid injury, even then if you overtrain you can injure your hand. Just like any conditioning or body building exercise, you just need to know prper technique when training.
I've been punching walls and had different injuries but it actually helps
Note: training without fight makes you be scared to fight someone
You get blister from punching walls??
You don't? What walls do you punch exactly? How hard do you punch? And how do you not get blisters and injuries and not have your knuckles physically change in appearance?
try trees instead find one thats just right amount of thickness for you.
I practice Iron Fist for yrs, I had some of the biggest scariest callused knuckles , I can show u some photos if u want . I have a video on my channel called Iron Fist just10 seconds . If u use dit dow jow your good..
To do it properly you have to build calus on the bone not damage nerves/tendon i watched shaolin monks alot when i was younger and they will hang sheets of paper agaisnt brick will and beat it til they reach the brick and repeat the process til they eventually wear throigh the brick but the paper layers id key it prevents damage to skin while strengthening bone and increasing punching power. They did kill like hundreds of Hitler's soldiers bare handed aswell so their is some serious legibility to their technique also I have used it it's peaceful and a towel and boards work fine also just make sure towel is really rolled up well lol.
So researched it and ya knuckle conditioning work the process is called cornical reargument .when you put pressure on the knuckles there calcium structure get fractured and the body takes the split structure and Build's a new one on top of it in the prosses making the knuckles stronger and densier
Personally, I want to preserve my dexterity while also hardening my main two punching knuckles, in order to be able to do bare knuckle boxing training. Once I can, I'll try some knuckle push-ups, but probably first order of business is to punch that heavy bag with some wraps on (I tried without wraps and the wound's still healing three days later).
Definitely don't push too hard, too fast!
@@coachmasonn Turns out the wraps also weren't enough when punching the bag for 45min or so (was fine ~10-15min). Had to get MMA gloves and will get there much slower, I'm afraid.
It depends on the sport you compete in. You really need them condition if you are in bareknuckle fighting. Either that or break your hand:knuckles every fight
i have been in several fights end can safely say that if you have condition your knuckles to a surten extent you can safely use your hands to whatever you want rather that be fighting painting or other things you normaly use your hands for. i am probably the only one in those fights who actually broke somones jaw bone with one hit. i could only do it bc my hand was trained for it i would other wise break my hand if not. i would say just conditon them to a sertan extent just dont over do it to a point were your just making the skin harder. the point is to make the bone stronger not the skin. 👊
In line with another coment here, the question is just about letting your bones heal and never stressing them to the point of permanent/serious damage. I've been punching walls, lead containers, trees and such since I was 13, I'm 39 now soon to be 40 and I had literally zero damage in my hands. I mean, I love drawing, dancing and writting and everything works perfectly. Constant conditioning is useless and harmful indeed but the "micro fractures and proper healing process" works wonderfully. So you don't even need to spend your precious training time on something "potentially useless" (spoiler: it is not useless).
Love that you've experienced longevity in training, keep it up!
Thank you.
Great video
Appreciate this bro, so would you recommend wearing hand protection while using a heavy bag?
@@coachmasonn Thanks!
Is hitting the bag not knuckle conditioning? Most videos say don't condition hands, hit the bag instead...but like you bit that with your knuckles. And if that doesn't condition then we must have different meanings of conditioning.
So the key is balance.
hi, I like your explanation, but I myself have tried to practice makiwara and the results were quite satisfactory. it makes me stronger than before. but we must respect each other
The original intent of karate was a fighting art, not a sport. With that perspective, you should train your hands to withstand the punishment you will encounter in a STREET FIGHT. If you punch someone and hit a big belt buckle or hit their forehead, then YOU will be in pain and open for a counter attack. The reason a karate-ka hits with the two largest knuckles is to concentrate all his punching force into a smaller area rather than like a boxer who hits with all four knuckles. Concentrating the force is what will allow you to break a rib and drive it into the body rather than just knocking the wind out of someone. Have you seen the videos of Okinawan karate-kas banging forearms? Can you imagine what would happen if an attacker tried to grab one of them by the throat or shirt? A forearm smash to an untrained arm is debilitating. Try it, you'll see. Things like that create openings where you can launch other attacks and put an attacker out of commission and let you get away. Remember how much it hurt when you first started training your kicks? Without toughening, you will throw one kick and be crying from the pain. You HAVE TO condition your weapons. Even using brass knuckles takes training. They hurt and you have to alter your hand/arm angle to use them. But as in all things, extremism is not a healthy way. Condition, not deform and cripple yourself.
Sounds good
Ive been doing it for 7 weeks yesterday and if you do it safely and you can get some strong knuckles if you just stay consistent
thanks for speaking appreciated
I agree, you need a balanced approach for training. You can make your hands tougher, but not to the point where your health is at risk or u neglect technique.
Great point! We must achieve a balance.
Been doing conditioning for awhile on a bag of beans wrapped in tape. Started off not being able to slap the dummy but now I can beat the hell out of it. It does not take a long time for me. Going on about 2.5 years.
20-30 slaps, hammer fists, back fists, boxer knuckles, top knuckles, finger tips. 15 mins or so. I do it usually only 2 days a week though (with Jow sometimes). Just see it less for sport and more for "i have to use these as weapons against unresisting people to survive" and I'm going to thrust their eyes or smash them. Plenty of elders with hard knuckles in Okinawan and similar who are fine. If you do sword motions (slashing, backhand motions etc) it makes them work all the better 🙂.
Being able to punch full forcebare knuckle/miss sometimes and hit a wall and keep going ..that's gold. When I was a cop I would always check the knuckles of the fighters when there was a domestic or similar. They'd break their knuckles/fingers. I don't break mine and even (with forearm, ribs, shin) conditioning, have taken some hard hits on them with rattan sticks and I am ok.
great video man........I don't believe in over conditioning my knuckles, yes, you do have to condition them but not over doing it. I don't believe in smashing solid object to a point where the skin of your knuckles and bones are useless for days or weeks. I had no idea when I started training when i was 13 in "73. Watching to many old Kung Fu movies, hitting sand bags. Crazy!! I since practice Praying Mantis and learnt different hand conditioning. Thanks for the vid. man.
This is a highly informative video.
as a sport a do boxing. the only type of knucle contioning ive ever really done is just knucle push ups in the mornings and at training (with wraps on during training but not in the mornings) after about a week or so my knucles begin to form cuts and gashes, even on my finger joints and to prevent infection or bleeding i've started to do knucles one week, open hand pushups the next week to let them heal, the thing is that my knucles dont really form caulles from it, just dryness and thats it. is there a reason for that or do caulles form from CONSTANT repetition even through bleeding? (i do them on a carpet in the mornings and that usually does the most "damage" also ive been doing knucles for abt 2 months, maybe more) just wondering if i could get some thoughts on this
@@coachmasonn ok, thanks for the recognition
Don't do them on the carpet, it makes your skin look ugly. Do them on something smoother, ideally wood.
Why would you post a fake picture?
Not fake, slightly edited 😂
I met 2 guys that had light artritis in their knuckles because they did hard knuckle training, so just do research and don’t go to crazy if you do it
Which knuckles do you strike with? Does it depend on vertical or horizontal fist?
@@coachmasonn Thanks for the reply. With a vertical fist, when you strike the face with a straight, does your index knuckle connect or do you have to tilt the wrist forward slightly? I know some say the wrist must always be straight when striking but is some deviation allowed to let the correct knuckles to land?
@@AK_UK_ you are supposed to punch with the first two knuckles, in full contact karate, a hook punch, has you hit from the side, with the first two knuckles, I hope that helps, for straight punches, it's more reliable to use a vertical fist, I sometimes tilt my hand, but you have to be careful, because if you do it too much, it bends all the way
I went back to my traditional dojo after 30 years; I met up with karatekas who had continued with makiwara training the 30 years I was into Savate and boxing. I asked them about any damage or amoralities they have received from their conditioning training, and none of these karatekas experienced any symptoms. They did just basic work, not that metal punching like in your video. It looks like conditioning in moderation will not destroy your bones.
If we don't train our knuckles then how will we be able to break earthen pots, bricks as like shaolin warriors do. And you said we should be bigger martial artist but one of the best MA Bruce Lee said "size doesn't matter" and I'm agree with his this point because our focus should be to gain abilities and skills, not appearance.
I used to have the same mindset. But after seeing plenty of Askari/King of the streets fights with opponents weighing 20kg or more than the other, and some being much taller than the other, and the larger one still losing, I changed my mind. These are all equal fighters most of the time, but it is mindset/attitude/resilience hat wins the fight, not sheer training, size or skill. I would argue that in a fight between untrained fighters or a fight with one trained fighter and one untrained fighter that the larger opponent wins especially if he gets his bodyweight/momentum in a dominant position. In the end, anyone can go down with some bad luck and a correct strike. It's a very interesting dynamic though!
Masaaki Hatsumi, when asked, said that building enough calluses to not split your knuckles is good, but, intelligent people do not disfigure themselves on purpose.
I think it’s useful in moderation. Not the way some of those mangled hand masters etc. I do a little of it but not over the top. I’d rather focus that time on hand strength and wrist stability
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Easy, if you are training for self-defense train Knuckles, if you train for sport just use wraps
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Any advice for someone with fucked knuckles from years of street fighting?
stop getting into fights?
Like any aspect of training. You must train with proper guidance, not hitting walls or immovable objects. Comment to me here, I will explain in detail how I've trained my fist without damage.
Thank You very much Sir
the old traveler way is the way to go white vingar and wraps when you sleep your skill will toughen someone we know what a bare knuckle fighter
I have never heard of this method! Will have to try.
perhaps theres a middle point in knuckle conditioning.
According to my Sifu, one must do rice bucket training for at least a year before trying Iron Palm training
Not all the time you wear your gloves
If it is a street fight you need to knock out your opponent in single strike and face others after
In short iron fist is the solution
That abnormal condition of finger by those masters they got by practicing their fingers on a pan of sand burning with fire
i try it and its 50/50 sometimes u can get injured and sometimes u can get iron fist
How am I supposed to kill my nerves with gloves on?
Nice tutorial
@@coachmasonn welcome
My age of 69 years old been doing bare knuckles planks on a wooden floor and punching the heavy bag for years never had a problem
What about for streetfights? I feel like a little would help but not extreme
I think knuckle conditioning can work, but firstly, it shouldn't be your main focus... By that, i mean, you should train all the other aspects too like your strength,especially if you want to be a better fighter. Also, we should listen to our body,maybe do it on certain days of the week and give them time for recovery. Listen to our body, if it hurts... the way it hurts like if its joint pain, take time off till it heals up, if its the skin, i think its okay to continue... Just my 2 cents, peace
Can we surgically implant metal nuckles i wonder.
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I learned that grains is what flares up the joints. I avoid it especially tortillas.
Correct. Search The Dietary Intake of Wheat and other Cereal Grains and Their Role in Inflammation to find a medical paper.
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I have one question that should i punch my mobile to like ur vedio
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I'm also a martial artist 😇 respect 🙏
Valid points, a balance in all area's..
Well explained Bro
So youre telling me when youre hitting a 200 hundred pound man and just cause you hit hard ?your knuckles wont break or your skin wont tear? If you used your hands as weapons youd known thru pain tolerance and conditioning brings strength
I agree!
the only way that i know of conditioning the knuckles without harming yourself is doing pushups on your fists every other method i saw at the end mostly ends in some type of injury
You don’t need to train your knuckles for your fist to get stronger it grows by itself
I didn't know that! How so?
I can break, squeeze or bend pretty hard objects and my whole hands are very conditioned, but I have so many broken or crushed bones, that sometimes, even without pressure, it hurts like when you know that Santa isn't real. Don't follow my way, dudes, it's not worth it at all.
Mas Oyama: the man with perhaps the best hand conditioning in the modern age, was so crippled at the end of his life he couldn't eat without specialized utensils.
Having these knuckles could also be uncomfortable for daily life, rough, easily injured and awkward.
Something to consider!
It only needs to be done correctly!
Dude u are wrong, sorry for saying this but u develop immense strength ur punch through knuckle pushups
How can i heal my nerve damage in fist
mental process
See a specialist!
When i began martial arts i would punch a concrete walls when i was indoors 😂 to be sincere it is beneficial but punching concrete walls made me get lots of injuries they were not that much problematic but reduced with time due to improvement of punching techic. So if i had anything i could say about anyone who is trying to condition the knuckles u can use some layer of protection before u are used to it. Get used to two knuckles push up and focus on improving your punching technic everyday
Solid advice!
Ive done iron hand for about 7 years total and from experience going from whipping my hands into rope wrapped wood right up to full force on solid steel I can safely tell you: you will break bones and you will go through times where youve injured yourself so badly your hand is unusable. A few months ago I hit a palm strike on a block concrete the wrong way and broke my hamet bone after 7 years of conditioning. In the long run all youre really doing is giving yourself arthritis, if you commit to iron hand do it because you enjoy hitting things that dont break, not because you think youre getting stronger 😅😅😅
most pointless thing to do tbh gonna be hugely painful in old age
I'd like to know if a strong man can punch hard bare knuckle. Why isn't developing wrist and hand strength considered hand conditioning? Too much asian influence of mindlessly doing what the master says, 90% the time this is a good thing but....
Ps i started strengthening thumb just by pulling on a theraband and found got strong quick for work as was pulling on big slippery hoses doing concrete spraying.. Also when I make a fist now the thumb sort of acts as a hand wrap as pulls all the fingers together. I punched a wall harder and harder to see if could take it and zero wrist problem which what used to happen to me. Knuckle sore a few days later and hurts to open close hand, not keen on that.. rather focus wrost and grip strength maybe some push upw on knuckles if doesnt mess up dexterity too much...maybe get as strong as can in hand and wrist then retry the knuckle push ups.i dont see how can strenchen the joint when filled with cartilage bursa miniwcus whose whole purpose is to be soft move easily.
Mindlessly doing what our masters tell us is a capitalist tradition. Don't generalise all of Asia with your internalised projections.
@@symbolsarenotreality4595 ah compared to what? how do things go under communism and fascism ie asia
@@symbolsarenotreality4595 why not? plus explain internalised proijections in this context. bet you can't cause ur just a woke sheep.
@@nikitaw1982 ridiculous conflation.
Is that your best double genocide propaganda?
Fascism is the raw power of finance capital.
How did people go under Mussolini when he reinstated child labour?
How did people go under Hitler when he lowered all wages by one third?
How is the USA going compared to China?
You are deluded or lying ahaha
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I punched two kinds of makiwara boards for about 12-15 years. I stopped right after I heard Higaonna, the son of the founder of Okinawan Goju Ryu was diagnosed with terrible arthritis. I have pretty tough hands, not quite hard rock hands, but I don’t suffer from rheumatism.
It’s a trade off.
Suffer the consequences in later years, but in younger years you’ll have hard hands. Won’t do much with them, they’ll look like hooves, but they’ll be strong.
Or- have normal soft hands which you can use, and have no defects in later years.
The choice is kinda obvious.
My cousin did knuckling conditioning and at 73 he couldn't cut a potato.
Well..,it's been over 50 years now, but when I was boxing we soak our hands in pickle juice and the next day we would punch sand that was in a bucket.
Ive been doing hand conditioning for close to 40 yrs. No arthritis or even crazy calluses. Some but not crazy.
I use both a rope makiwara and a sand bag. I wear bag gloves but not wraps. I wear bag gloves while using public equipment.
I also play guitar and use that as my gauge as to if its effecting my dexterity.
Frequency over volume is key. A little done often is best.
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I can pierce my finger through an airborne orange in one strike. My life has never been better.
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you could do 50 a day which doesn't take alot of your ''precious'' time and you would have drastic improvements overtime, not to mention Mas Oyama conditioning and doing all kinds of training for 10 hours a day why can't you?