FIST/HAND CONDITIONING | Stephen Wonderboy Thompson
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
- Today I bring in my pops and head coach Ray Thompson to give you all some tips on how to condition those fists. As you all know I broke both of my hands in my last fight but it took over 80 fights to do so. Yes, I've been training all my life but I have also supplemented extra hand conditioning techniques that I believe have protected my hands for this long. I hope you all enjoy the video and can implement some of these same practices to benefit you! Thanks for watching and don't forget to hit that subscribe button!
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That moment you realize......fighting Wonder Boy's father is ALSO a bad idea.
Fighting anyone that trains for it is a bad idea. But yea coming at pops is probably worse than a bad idea 😂
@@LgLegion lol low key I can even say as someone who has 0 experience in any MMA I can guarantee you a white or blue belt will tap me out simply because I don't know jujitsu
@@pedro55845 i believe thats pretty obvious
It's one of those cases where as a kid you can say "my dad can beat your dad"
I'm your REAL dad. His dad the baddest man in south carolina
If I don’t have melon knuckles by the time I’m out of quarantine, I’ll sue
Do it everyday then😅
😂😂😂😂
I think punching a wood plank....I saw that as a kid in a Cuban Boxing Gym.back in the 70s
How’s it going my man
Its fine,that won't happen because they intend eternal Lockdown,its the great reset baby "you'll own nothing and be happy".
My homie who passed away had huge knuckles and used to knock big people out. People always thought he was a wimp because he was a short little white boy, but he would knock them to sleep and make them realize he's not to be messed with the hard way. R.I.P
Did he do this conditioning or just punch a lot of shit an was born with strong bones
Cool, how did he pass?
Rip
Rip homie 💛
Rip bud
The amount of respect this man has for his father is unreal, they have probably done this hundreds of times and he still listens like its his first time ever.
A UA-camr that listens to his fans requests? Thank you so much Wonderboy and WonderDad!
Loving the content!
waterlegend72 lets just all tell him to make his next fight lol
@Soldado de Dios didnt he broke his both hands in last fights? gotta let them hands heal up 100% bruh
@Soldado de Dios lmao i'm just joking i think because he broke both of his hands he is just letting them heal so he dose'nt destroy them again in his next fight.
Wonderpops
how did it go?
How do I condition my hair
Train like Fabio.
by cutting it short so your opponent can't pull it
Mayonnaise. But, wash it out twice or you’ll smell like an egg salad according to big Ed.
Ask Elias Theodorou.
Andrew Austin LOL
Just started Kickboxing and didn't know Wonderboy has a UA-cam Channel. Well let's just say imma get into conditioning right now !
Let’s gooooo!! 👊🏻👊🏻
@@WonderboyMMA I won`t disappoint :) I promise :D
Foh
Arthritis... Lol
It's what all fighters fear the most.
Not like fighters risk a lot more than that every fight, let alone a whole career.
@@vinslungur if you’re worried about arthritis then just don’t get into it. A lot worse to be worried about 💀💀
Wonderboy's pops reminds me of that cool high school teacher that caught you smokin weed behind the band school and instead of getting you in trouble gave you some wisdom about life and said don't let it happen again. Shout out to you pops we need to protect our elders as they're our wellspring of wisdom and guidance.
Beautiful image of a father and a son. I miss my father so much. Thanks to both of you for being what you are. Respect and gratitude from Paris
I offer u this . From the bottom of my heart thank you. My father has been murdered 8 and 9 months ago and I just can’t even start to mourn him. But thank you and be well cause of the corona virus.
God bless you and these two great and brave men.
If the rest of the world was only like them.,
Take care
WWYD78 And God bless you wherever you are
I offer u this 💯 cuz.
@@alikouva4812 I'm sorry for your loss...
Thank you for goodness. Be blessed you and the ones you care for.
Wonderboy: "Breaking people's skulls"
Wonderpops: (pause) "That's possible"
love watching these beginner videos
I loved dads face, was like "yeah.. poor dude, i regret that day"
2:16 is exactly correct. I almost exclusively hit the heavy bags without gloves or wraps. Over the years I’ve adjusted my power based on how much my knuckles can take and how well the rest of my body that is delivering the force, ie wrist, shoulders, lats etc, can handle it. This also makes you mindful of how you’re delivering power with each punch.
I keep scuffing the skin then i get scar tissue that wants to bleed way to easily
When I do it I just lose skin on the knuckles, you just grow thicker skin?
@@nickybobby8753 thanks for the knowledge, so I just can't punch anything for a few weeks till the skin regrow
@@nickybobby8753 and you always do the bag with bare hands? The shadow boxing I imagine you carry weights
Robber: give me your wallet!
Stephen Thompson's dad: your soul is mine, enjoy the wheelchair.
Gets a granite palm straight to the beak lol.
Haha like that time Renzo got mugged and live tweeted it.
Most muggers carry weapons...
@@krazed0451 and wonder boys dad is a ACTUAL weapon….
@@antoinewilliams129 Granted he's a beast, but I'll bet you a dollar he's not bullet proof.
Wonderboy's father is absolutely right about bone strike/palm strikes they are the best thing to throw if you have unconditioned knuckles or fighting barehanded. Its amazing that they are little used in mma today given how devastating they can be. Bas Rutten and some of the Pancrase fighters are sometimes mocked by casuals for using slaps in a fight. Which immediatly displays to me a basic knowledge of striking. Yes, that organization had different rules or if your hands are properly conditioned it probably wouldn't matter if you used a closed or open fist. Nonetheless, it is a very effective strike given the general overall strength in the bone. Thank you Wonderboy and Wonderpops for another fantastic video.
Bas Rutten literally made a career in Japan with that striking system
Def underrated in modern mma
You lose a few inches of reach though
When they have that gloves on, the fists are more effective. Fists can deliver the same amount of power no matter which angle you throw it, the only thing it depends on is how much force you throw that punch. The palm is also easier to block since you open your whole hand to strike. Furthermore, in the context of combat sport, if you use palm strike to the face, there's possibility you may poke your opponent's eye, or he pretends his eye being poked by you, hence points taken away. Hence the reason why Bas mostly palm strike to the liver, where the angle is easy to adjust, out of his opponent site (make it harder to block), and no eye-poke.
The only drawback of the fist is that it's easy to be broken(which is the reason why palm strike is far superior when we're talking about no glove fights), but the gloves have minimize that risk
I agree! Also, slaps were the only head strikes allowed in Pancrase. you could kick a dude, (they wore leg pads). but not punch him in the nose
@@ShamGam3
Very true.
Tony "Steel Pipe" Ferguson would like to have a talk with u guys
It's very good instruction for beginners and intermediate, maybe Tony should make some instruction vids.
Pete Martin someone’s gonna break their hand trying his knuckle conditioning
Was thinking though maybe Tony’s is slightly counterproductive? Wonderboy and his Dad have had good success with their method and said multiple times that the maki needed to have a bit of movement. I don’t know why it needs it but Tony’s steel pipe doesn’t move for shit lol
A "talk", you say...
No shit lmao but tbh these are good techniques though the mokie board looks intense
As a teenager I did karate very seriously until my back and knee injuries later as an adult. I did bare knuckle pushups on concrete floors a lot and punched bare knuckles on a large cement bag filled with gravel and pebbles. This video got me excited again to get back to my old school training.
Did back and knee injuries occur because of karate ?
The amount of respect and admiration you have for your dad really shows how good of a job he did raising you.
What if someone's father is unintelligent and a pussy?
Papa Ridgehand is the best nickname of all time!!!
I hope you become the champ Stephen! I’m on your team every fight. With much respect, from the UK.
“A lot of money went into these.” Man I hope the leather was the most expensive part.
Before he said that i was like oh i could make that for 10 bucks
Excellent to see some spreding of this. I specialise in this sort of training for the last 19 years. Not many people do this but i would agree with the guys, it is a long and awsome road. Great to see some MMA guys spreading the good word of traditional martial arts.
Ray Wonderdad Thomson
these dudes always bring a smile to my face!!!! i wish i lived close because i would definitely train there everyday but Sunday!! Much love my brothers!!!
right on. it would be awesome. yeah me too.
Coach Ray: *Calm* "Let me get your spot."
WB: 😤 "YES, SIR!"
That “yes sir” had me rollin!
Who else thought of Makiwara even before watching the video ?
yupp and sand pebble bags too🤦🏻♂️
I totally agree with hand conditioning I've been doing it for almost a year. And I can tell a HUGE difference when I first started hand conditioning! My knuckles almost doubled in size. Also I feel less pain and I can hit longer
Doubled? You sure?
@@KingD0ngo yes! Especially my pink knuckle! It was my smallest knuckle and now it's about the same size as my first pointer finger knuckle!
@@Alpha_Jay danm but how tho? Wolfs Law dosent work fast enough to make that change in a year. Even those iron fist guys in china who devote themselves to hand conditioning soley don’t ever double their knuckle sizes rarely do they even increase beyond 1.5 size? And that’s years. Even shin training produces rarely any visible changes beyond the occasional knot? And you can condition those almost every day and much harder
@@KingD0ngo all I can tell you is that constantly hitting bags and also hitting my fist together and letting them heal gave me good bone density! The first 3-4 months or so took my hands like 5 days to heal because I over did it. And eventually the pain and tolerance/endurance of hitting stuff grew. I WOULD PROBABLY SAY IT WAS MORE LIKE 1 YEAR AND A HALF
@@Alpha_Jay do you have any photos cause to be frank there literally hasn’t been anyone ever who’s increased their knuckle size that quickly or in general aside from breaking their hand and it growing back weird
"YES SIR" !! started laughing and loud for real!
One of my favorite mma fighters but even more so, one of my favorite human beings. I appreciate you Wonderboy and Sweet T and Pops!!! Great family, great people, great content. Thank you!!!
Very nice to watch - the real thing about the bone structure high density improvement in a old-school way. Extra Respect for the Thompson Family !!!
Tony Ferguson’s the type of guy to watch a Diego Sanchez interview and respond with “what a weirdo”
James Rosano tony Ferguson is the type of guy to get cancer just to fight it
@@manlikenathan8668 this is a good one
@@manlikenathan8668 that is pretty funny
All jokes aside....watching his Dad have a relationship with Wonder Boy sets a positive example. In a world full of negative vibrations finding a positive foundation is hard. Men like myself see this and it motivates me to also lead my children in that way. Teaching them self control, dicipline and love thru martial arts in order to strengthen the relationship. May God continue to bless you guys.....
Thanks Wonderboy! I've just been getting into your podcasts the last week or 2. You are a natural. Already one of my favorites.
Thank you as always, Wonderboy & Wonderfather!
I love how Wonderboy hypes up his dad on certain parts of his speech LOL 2:24
Keep up the training and awesome content, me and my friends are all rooting for you on your next fights!
WB is the man, taught from a master. Very few people carry this level of positivity!
Seriously?! Best Makiwara tutorial yet! Very in depth answering questions I’ve always had. Always wanted to start this process but I swear no one could tell me how. Thank you Wonderboy family!
Make a video on how to read your opponents next move and how to counter. :)
bump
To be brief, how to read an opponents next move is really something that comes with fighting experience, he could briefly outline it, but really the only way is experience as much of that skill is reliant on subconscious recognition, even then mostly you can't really "read" an opponents next move, you can only estimate it, there are so many equations to it, like feigns etc, though countering is a definite skill which could be a video in itself.
This other coach I follow said you should watch the torso.
@@einar6229 totally, over time you'll notice the different combinations that opponent's use. With that experience you'll learn how defend and counter those combinations, then learn to take certain things away from opponents so you can dominate a fight/match!
JOJO
This is how I grew up. In Karate we twisted upon impact. Mine was made of thick rope twine and had extra arms and a leg (like a Mook Jong, or Wooden Dummy). If you like this check out Okinawan Uechi Ryu! They are beasts!
Thank you Thompsons! Both of you are the best..
I can't explain the amount of respect that I have for Stephen and Ray.
I wish so much that I had a Dad like Ray when I was younger.
I have just found Wonderboy's channel it has made my day.
Why haven't' youtube recommended this to me!
I wish The Thompson family all the best for the future.
Hey WB. I admire your respect, confidence, and humility. Would love to see a video on how you maintain your head game and how to stay motivated and inspired! Might be the perfect way to encourage certain people as you are clearly loved around the world. Please keep up the great content. -Matthew
He sounds like stone cold Steve Austin 😂
Thought i was the only one hearing a childhood badass
As a native Texan that has lived in the Carolinas for a dozen or so years, his accent doesn't have the same Texas drawl but more of a Carolina short twang. The word "tyyyehrs" does have that Texas lilt though. Either way they're both badass.
I think it’s just the accent
Not one but TWO ideas for videos here for you that we'd all want to see:
1) Please could give us a brief history of how your Pops learnt Karate and martial arts? (when did he start, who coached him etc.)
2) Why do you fight with your hands so low? (seems risky and nothing like a traditional boxer or kickboxer)
Thanks for all the hard work you put into these videos!
I've been waiting all week for this, thank you so much!!
Could you please do a “technique Tuesday” on combos for setting up the head kick? Btw love the channel keep up the great work
Wonder boy should do a food challenge
Great video btw
WB is such a classy honest man. I wish we had more fighters like him. Much respect to you Sir.
I love that he shares his "secrets" and actually explains it and dumbs it down for us. Not many people like him out there
Luque was conditioning his scull lmaooo I'm dying over here wonderboy😂😂
I used to train to make my hands tougher, used a homemade makiwara but realized that it had ruined my hands for firearms trigger control, so I toned it down...didn't stop, just slowed it down...guns and computers are the 2 biggest weapons nowadays...so I just go real easy. I'm not a pro fighter, so breaking my hand once in an emergency situation is cool with me...
You sure about that?
Its amazing to watch you guys teach about conditioning....thank you very much and none of the fighters didnt made a video like you.......🥊💪
Technic Tuesday’s in our time of need! Good looks wonderboy, can’t wait to see you back out there! You and the fam stay safe & keep up with the great content
I strengthen my hand and wrist ever night
How about your lead hand?
I think you should give your hand and wrist a break. Use me so I can condition my mouth 😊💦
Raza Kazama da fuk
At my kyokushin dojo we threw a 100% at it... It helped alot!
such fantastic advice on your channel, you deliver the content in a really energising way and helps me to absorb the information more than most others. Thank you WONDERBOY!
obsessed with these videos man. Love your passion about the sport
Idk if this is relavent but tendon strength is super helpful for mma bc it is fundamental for body weight strength. I started climbing and got really good at it made it to the national team but what I didn't expect was how much it helped my martial arts. It was shocking bc I was never really strong and climbing gave me that. I was always super active, wrestling, track, swimming, crew. I did it all but climbing gave me a different kinda strength. Just something to consider.
When I was in taekwondo we did push ups on our knuckles (concrete floor)
Man, i always thought your old man hates your yt channel. I don t know why. I just had this feeling. I thought he s too old school for this. Seeing him willingly participate in the video relieved me of a lot of stress, and i ain t event joking
🤜🤛
The best martial arts channel without a question. I hope to see you becoming a champion one day you absolutely deserves it
Can we just take a second to appreciate how wholesome these two are? Also, Pops mentioned going no glove bagwork? Should I still use wraps or just go complete bare knuckle?
Flourish. Try it without the wraps first and if that causes a lot of discomfort then wrap those hands really well and hit the bag. After a few weeks of that, take the wraps off. But like my dad said, Let those knuckles sink in so those bones can become stronger and don’t start off hitting the bag hard as if you are wearing gloves. Start out light then gradually build up the power😎👍🏻
I'm sure Ray Thompson could tell us a few stories about his "street fights" :)
Such a cool vibe. Great positive energy in this family. Martial arts world needs more people like this.
This channel is just AWESOME!
Hey Wonderboy
Where can I buy that tank top from?
I cant find those colours on the website
I tend to just hit a wall every time I lose on UFC 3 ranked.
I like the advice to also practice (lightly) hitting wrong
Love this channel. You guys are helping me train in these Corona times. Thank you Stephen!
4:25 yeah the flex is probably very important. When I was young and dumb I thought it would be a good idea to use the pad on the gym wall behind the basketball hoop as a punching pad.
That was my experience with a boxer's fracture. Don't Do This Kids... LOL
"The Japanese call it a makiwara"
Subtitle: bucket of water
Your duo is too freaking cool , you guys are awesome !
Thank you Wonderboy for this great video!
A year into boxing I can finally do light work bare handed without skinning my knuckles immediately. Little progress every day :)
Would be cool to see something about shadowboxing or how visualization works into your training. Especially since more and more ppl can't show up to gym for the next few weeks/months.
I broke my hand the first punch i ever landed, in a school fight, so this is interesting to know this is even a thing
that could go bad. he could have really hurt you because if I was him and seen u hurt then I’m moving in for the kill. I grew up working hard so my hands r really strong ...pro arm wrestler strong since I found out I could hang with the best in the Midwest at a state tournament. strengthen them dukes man! it’s really important in lots of things. u can’t build a house without strong hands .
@@crazymacedonianboi that wasn't a risk in this particular fight. It was a heat of the moment thing, thats why my fist wasnt clinched hard. The adrenaline kept me from feeling any pain until it was over
it’s always a risk in any fight...especially once ur out of school there’s angry violent people...and there’s a percentage of those people that might have training even tho growing up was the real training. I’m ready especially in the heat of the moment. plus people carry knives and guns . that’s why if I do train it’s with like minded people who wanna get better at martial arts . the street especially out of school is a good place to end up in a pine box with mamma crying 😢 right lol .
Thank you for sharing gold to us .
Badass man, as far as an mma UA-cam channel from a fighter I think you hold the crown on the best one. You’re very good at explaining things.
Whos your pick for Tony Khabib Wonderboy???
Also, when`s your next fight??
Was your dad in the military? Just by the way he speaks I feel like he was stationed in Japan and learned karate there.
That would be some badass history if that is true
@Zeek Banistor true... But I still think however he learned karate has to be an interesting story
@Zeek Banistor Mark, why? High rank in the US Air Force.
Edit: Apparently there are 23 US military bases in Japan. I've only heard of the one my cousin was based at and Kadena.
militarybases.com/overseas/japan/
This is by far the most knowledge on hand conditioning I have seen in 50+ years.
Wonder-freakin-Dad !!
Steven, I know you do but man are you blessed to have a real father/mentor/coach etc in your life. Love the bond you two share. I know I enjoy my 70y.o. Pop, best man I know 🙏
liked before the video started lol
I need someone in my life that looks at me the same way Stephen looks at pops
How about your pops ?
@@leej4523 He went to the gas station and idk ive been waiting for him to come back for like 15 years
@@Dclin9 sorry to hear that brother.
@@leej4523 nah dawg im just fucking around but aint that close with him
@@Dclin9 😂
Thanks for this video guys! Absolute legends.
I love the bond you and your dad have and no matter what Stephen always respect your dad wether in martial arts or in life and I see that with you guys and that’s why I love you guys and are one of my favorite martial artist
Stephens *childhood friend* : my dad can beat your dad.
*Pops* : hold my melons...
Tony Ferguson the type of guy to watch on Sun to condition his eyes
For real tho
you guys are the best, thanks for the knowledge
You guys are great and good people as well it is pleasure to watch your channel
*Arthritis* has entered the chat
I know it sounds dumb but really?
I had a really old boxing coach with knuckles like those, and he never developed arthritis.
My pops has no signs of it either. Not saying it’s not possible to develop just saying my pops is arthritis free.
Wavyanthony 6 Yes if conditioning is done incorrectly. If you take it slow and gradually build up your knuckles then the body will get used to it and your joints won’t stiffen or break resulting arthritis
Grip work will do the same thing risk free. Captains of crush, titans telegraph key, thick bar lifting etc
Wrist injury recover video? I’ve had a wrist injury for a few years now and every so often I hurt it again. Anyway I can help recover this lingering injury? Anyone responding to this would be great help. I’d love to hear different opinions not just wonder boys. Thanks.
It's possibly a result of bad form. In that case get better coaching one of their responsibilities is to keep you from hurting yourself. Unless it has never stopped hurting and you injure it more than once every 3ish months. In the case you have a more serious problem that requires a real physical therapist's input.
carpal tunnel syndrome can set in if you been throwing a punch incorrectly or you tried to push through a injury and ignore the pain. I was guilty of both. I learnt to throw my punches at lower power and focused correct form like I throw a hook palm in not palm down with a solid structure behind the wrist. Second thing make sure you use wrist wraps when going full power on a heavy bag that is what works for me and oh learn to give your body time to heal
Stop pulling yourself so much.
DLeMA AFiK pushing?
@@nowmma3292 nah tossing lahd. 🤣
These guys are great teachers.
Awesome father son relationship! Priceless
i really just want to see thompson's mother 😂
Not sure he has one, WB looks like Ray's clone 😁
Is there any risk of this causing arthritis as you age? Doesn’t seem to with papa Thompson ..
I would guess all fighters have bad arthritic hands as they age.
Zeek Banistor- interesting. Do you do any specific knuckle conditioning like this?
Zeek Banistor- very helpful thanks for the info you’ve peaked my interest even more in beginning those practices.
Last question, how old are you ?
Just curious relating to whether you’re at an age where arthritis would be more likely
Zeek Banistor- thanks for the info, much appreciated. That’ll be logged in my brain now, part of the ongoing data collection for building that bigger picture of how to train for longevity and resilience. Good luck and keep pushing 🤜
Thank you!! Very practical and well taught. Much appreciation.
Great video! Keep making great videos like this to assist people through this process.
"This is a serious set up lots of money went into this". What two bits of wood, a tyre, a bit of leather and some shin pads. You got mugged off lol.
/r/whoosh
Thank you so much for this detailed video. I truly appreciate the time and effort you put into it. Thank you. Have a good day.
Thanks guys ,and you guys are awesome.
thank you for dropping knowledge sensei