Mazda Speed3's vs Subaru STI - 300hp THROWDOWN!
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- Опубліковано 14 гру 2015
- You don't always have to have 800+ horsepower to have fun!
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I love how the comments are split. -people that know that 300 hp is actually pretty fast. -and people that only know cars on the Internet and still think 500 hp is slow.
300HP is pretty fun.
Well said !!
+JDM Dragon at 302whp my 98 integra.. on a good tire.. was pretty strong on the street.. 113-114mph traps..mid-low 12s car on DR, high 11 on Slicks., Stock tranny quaife diff..stock axles, stock suspension. lol.. 300whp is plenty for fun. 600whp is just twice as fun. :)
b00stedrust I'd stop at around 400-500 HP. It seems like a nice amount of power to me with still being kinda reliable
Yeah 302 whp was when I was on stock internals.. After I did pistons rings..rods..springs/retainers valves... bearings.. And an Type R intake cam and the little 57 trim made 407 wheel horsepower @ 15 pounds.. And it was a little unruly on the street until we switched to boost by gear in which it ran wastegate pressure ..made 302 wheel horsepower at 9 psi and first and second and then 15 psi in the remaining gears and on a drag radial I'm telling you I made a few 550 whp + domestic cars pretty upset and trapped low to mid 120s in the quarter which was plenty to piss off the 600 and 750 CC crotch rockets.. Best trap was 126 on a cool fall day.
Most of your viewers probably can't relate to having an 800hp monster. We need more videos like this. My respect, Mexico Racing League.
I have family that drag but I dont have shit over 335hp (my sti).
Nice to take a break from these 900+ hp cars
My thoughts exactly
Indeed! 240-320hp is more fun then SUPER FUCKING HOT HP BOOST HIGH FUCK POWER NITRO TOP SPEED ACCELERATION FAST EXOTIC YELLOW CARS!
@pro env Yeah, because they're cars most with a decent job can afford, nothing insane. Keepin' it real.
I like this video.....it's what a lot of normal guys do.....Not everybody has funds to buy a muscle car and then have it modified....I like how refined the engines sound....NOT A BUNCH OF DRONE...you ever pull up to a guy with one of those exhausts on the freeway...and you can feel the noise inside your car...horrible.
I was stuck in like 40-50mph traffic next to a rsx w/ open headers I wanted to die..
mndayman Lol
Ran against a Chrysler 300c without muffler and resonator , I couldn't even drive with how loud that was.
"full bolt ons" stock intercooler, stock suspension, stock Turbo inlet pipe, stock bpv, stock downpipe, stock manifold........good one
+snowcamo 3 hey man; we all start somewhere...
***** yeah I definitely understand that it's just that it wasn't full bolt ons like he said. Granite he's on a UA-cam video and was probably just nervous talking but you know what I mean.
I mean I see a Sri and tip both look like to be Cobb products. And you can't see down pipe so no clue if it's stock. That is definitely a stock top mount ic tho
Also that car is too low to he stock suspension. Look at the red gen 1 it's parked next to.
+slowaf ms3bruh I just don't understand why people can't say what they literally have you know? like when people say stage 2 or for this case full bolt ons, to me it's as if they don't know what's down. And if it is full bolt ons and tune why is it he can't keep up with the Red first Gen with an intake?
Most people here saying and crying slow slow slow, probly drive something slower themselves, it's easy to talk on the internet. It's nice to see normal everyday cars instead of overpowered monsters. It might make for a boring video for some but for these guys they probably had a blast out there. Be realistic, these cars have 300 hp, not 7-800... Nice vid MRL!
Damn you defending them! What's up you want some of this sauce!? I live in Mexico! Let me know
Roll_up or Pull_up you would reply to a comment from 4 years ago
@@brotherhood_ofstreetracers4268 why would you reply to a reply to a comment that was 1 year ago
@@clayton9838 why would I reply to a comment that was 7 months ago?
@@chandlertilton2427 it was 1 month ago for him tho
Most of you people who think this is gay can't afford the high HP cars.
Respect for this video upload, definitely an interesting take and eager to see more lower powered cars
Ya I think I agree with a lot of folks on here, nice to see some average car guy type cars getting some attention. I think we can also relate, that no matter how fast your car is, it always looks slower on camera then when your actually behind the wheel. With that being said, keeping in mind we're watching fairly sporty low 13 second cars that are all fairly close in power, why not make a vid. Good job.
This is the FWD's element, from the roll. Eat AWD's all day....
Man I almost forgot what racing 300hp cars looks like... so peaceful lol
Get a load of this guy. Well I've never owned a car over 250 hp so this is lit
So calm hey!! Haha i agree, 1000whp cars make you wonder what breath is going to be your last every time you do a pull lmao, you’re praying to god and fighting off the reaper every time you hit 4th 😂
@@crucifiedzozo918 bro 250-300whp races are lit af always
Loll
People definitely sleep on speed 3's. I've got a Gen 1 pushing 400 whp. Not much on the road really can keep up lol. At that point tho, the car is running like hell and you've gotta grip the wheel tight and hang on. By far the funnest little turbo car I've driven.
My speed3 makes 300whp rn and I still gotta hold the wheel tight even in 3rd gear😂
@@tythekoenigseggenthusiast2573 stock turbo torque
Lol at the comments. I'd say 99% of people in America don't have the 800+hp cars that you see in the 1320 videos. I'd also bet 90% of people don't have cars with 300hp, yet soo many people talk so much shit about these cars that can run 13 sec 1/4 miles.
A. J 13 seconds on 1/4 mile? that is slower than my grandma's civic lol
Félix Caramagno your grandma's Honda Civic is faster than a Honda NSX! That's crazy!
I've mistaken the 1/4 for the 1/8 hahah...i feel like an idiot now sorry mate
Interesting to see something different. Maybe a dig would be more exciting. 300hp from a roll is pretty painful to watch.
+jarjarlol Yeah it's nice to see more relatable cars, but from a roll they're kind of slow lol.
from a dig it's just wheel spins
+NoMashMe barely...these cars are slow as hell.
Hahahahaha so true.
+jarjarlol- lol
kudos for this video, i really enjoyed watching it, keep it up guys
This definitely puts some perspective on all of the 900-1000+ hp cars we see on here all the time.
I'm with the other half who appreciate a nice throw down with "practical" cars. These are the kind of cars you generally run into on the street. I have a CTS V, but I also have a 98 Cobra that could run with these cars.
The 2010 mazdaspeed 3 20psi only making 260 🤔
lol so he’s making less than stock? 😂
More videos like this pls, normal daily cars, great video 👌
awesome video dude.
I respect the "normal" car races. would like to see more.
Love the vids love driving my 300 hp 2nd gen on 93 pump
this is more of what you actually come across in the streets, not a 1000hp beast..nice video.
Would love to see how my fbo mk7 gti would do here. I have raced stock sti before and walked him pretty good.
Hey some realistic cars. May not be as catchy and cool as the big power cars but the 300-400hp cars are a lot of fun. Miss mine being quick.
Aye, pay no mind to these ass hats. I love to see a big racing channel post vids of slower cars racing. "Run what ya brun." Shows that you can race anything. Keep up the good content guys.
Some of the new 2016 minivans have 300hp. I start to sweat when those new minivans line up at a stoplight next to my STi.
Hahahahaha! so true just about every damn car has about 275-325 now. like the "start to sweat when a minivan pulls up!!!". My 12 sec car doesn't feel much faster than these high horsepower domestic cars.
+Luther Rogers There's that Japanese version of the STI which actually has 400+ hp.
Luckily we still have power to weight ratio
Yo that's so fking true man, I pulled away from a Mercedes Benz in my 2005 town and country when I was coming back from Florida, it wasn't a race at all but he was hella mad at me because I passed by his new Mercedes in an 2005 van lol, I pushed the pedal to the metal and left him In the dust, not because he didn't wanted to race me but it was because of his mpg, he decided it was not the best idea but still my van is not a rival for a new Mercedes Benz but it was funny, these vans are no joke!
Luther Rogers wonder if those mini vans are pulling 4.5 0-60 times? or 13 flat 1/4 miles?
I want more of these videos.
I'd also scope out Pro Modular Performance in Austin, Tx. They did a great job on my ms3.
does the race start before or after the beeps i can't tell ?
That red 1st Gen Mazdaspeed in the middle knows his car! Clean shifts!
Really nice exhaust notes
I'm EXTREMRLY satisfied with my 290 hp in my 03 speed protege....My 290 hp will keep up with and most times dust a v8 pushing 450 or 500 hp!. 290 hp in a small protege that's DAILY DRIVEN is just the right amount of power for my taste and like I said I have ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM keeping up with or smoking a V8...#mazdaspeed
Don't those motors throw a rod at 200-220 whp? They're a stock motor from a base protege, either way I'm sure they're fun to drive
my 280whp all motor RSX would run scat packs and 5.0s without 10 speeds. Loved seeing the looks on people's faces whenever I told them it wasn't turbo
dig runs would have been much more interesting,either way 300whp will run low 13s.
Not fast but definitely a fun street car.
Fast enough to land you in jail.
erik dennard no doubt
Digs hurt cars lol.
Wait wait wait ... did the silver speed say 251 .... that’s less than stock homeboy on full bolt on you should be well over 300
Some hot hatches in this group!
cool to see practical cars. I'd like to race then in my Talon
Was that STI on sport mode???
About what I thought, e85 speed would pull up top, speedbreaker red car would walk the silver gen2 and the gen2 and STI would be pretty evenly matched. Speedbreaker car was impressive for how hard it was pulling.
WTF? Seriously an S1? You had the option to get an S3, and you went with an S1? Almost as bad of a decision as me getting a GTX2871.
+Jeromy Williams I was thinking the same exact thing man.
I like this video, the last race was good, they stay on for more time.
idk about this one they say full bolt on but they take forever to hit 100mph maybe mine has more then full bolt ons also im not running E85 and it gets there in a second
Missing paddle shifters to drop to 3rd for the speed boost
Do these share the engine with the new focus rs? Or has someone been blowing smoke up my ass?
Will Palmer something like that...speed3s no longer are in production something about Ford owning the rights to the motor which is a 2.3 turbo engine
The speed rolls the STI every time
looking to get one really soon 🙌
You're joking, right? I mean, unless you're simply talking about what goes down in this video. Stock vs stock, the speed3 and top end newer mazda3's get walked by an STi, even from a roll. The fact that STi would first pull, and then stay with those cars form freeway rolls actually makes these mazdas look bad. An untuned stock STi is putting down like 220-230WHP, maybe 240 if you're on a mustang dyno, and the lowest rated mazda running had 250-260WHP. The mazdas are lighter, and the speed3 is only running 2WD. Seeing when this video was put out, those mazda 3's were also only 2WD. AWD cars aren't meant for roll racing, especially from freeway rolling starts. That being said, if you take STi's with both having the same weight and WHP, except 1 was 2WD and the other was AWD, the 2WD version would walk the AWD version. You're splitting power to 2 wheels, rather than 4. Basically, think of dividing the power per wheel, or per axle. If you're 2WD and are putting down 300WHP, you're putting down 300WHP per axle. If you're putting down 300WHP but you're AWD, you're putting down 150WHP per axle. That's why acceleration suffers with AWD cars, especially at faster speeds.
AWD isn't made for straightline racing, and it's REALLY not meant for starting at freeway speeds and accelerating on top end. AWD will always pull slower than it would if that car had been made 2WD. That's on top of any STi made within the last 11-13 years pulling slower than the previous years US spec STi's, for some odd reason. If you're 2WD, have the same power or more than an AWD car, and get pulled in a roll race, your car sucks. Like these new age muscle cars that put out more power than an STi, yet get walked by an STi stock vs stock (excluding the top end versions. We're talking the versions that put out 360-380hp, not the 440+hp versions.). I have never seen a mazda3 or speed3 with the same power as the STi pull an STi. It's actually the opposite, the STi pulls the mazda3 and speed3 when the power is the same, or close to the same.
@@iwannatalktosampson bro . . Cope. speeds walk STI on rolls
@@anthonyi2221 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Another non car guy. You don't know anything. In fact, I just ran a speed 3 about 2 weeks ago from a freeway roll at 80mph because that tool didn't want to slow down, abs I pulled it fairly easily. If you've got one and like to run, I'll run you, as long as you're willing to put a minimum of $1,000 down in the run. We can even do best 2 of 3.
In this video, you're comparing a basically stock STi (axle back exhaust only), to fill bolt on+ Speed 3's that are putting down between 20-70WHP more, and running 2wd rather than AWD. That pull from the red Speed 3, which is origami the one with 300+WHP is pathetic considering its running a stock STi from a freeway roll. On to of that, any STi list some 2010 are slower than older STi's. Subaru started putting too many things on them that showed them down not just because of weight, but because of what the additions did in functionality. That being said, if the Speex 3's in this were stock, they would've easily got walked by that STi.
@@iwannatalktosampson i have a speed. Sti's get spanked. Have handed many Ls to their fat asses on a roll. Cope
We all start somewhere
I love seeing these types of races. Tired of seeing 700+ hp cars. This is alot more realistic and daily vehicles. I drive a full bolt on 2018 mustang GT
Love it wish i was there
what transmission does that STI use? CVT or manual?
Manual is the only option
That little speed 3 pulled every race easy
+nick grant he was on E85 while everyone else was on 91. i would hope he would pull.
badass intro haha
It’s funny people call it slow even though they have no frames of references except for the fact that the cars are all pretty close in acceleration and don’t have extremely loud exhausts. That speed3 would pull on any of the American v8 muscle cars that were made before 2010
quietest race I've ever seen on this channel
Deft strange when all you see on MRL is 1500+ HP cars then they've you 300HP matchbox cars. Different but ok.
I've seen paint dry faster
hahahaha
lol the last guy in the speed3 row. he says full bolt ons, tuned on 91 running 20psi @250-260hp... pffft why spend the money on bolt ons for no power, or this guy is sandbagging his numbers a bit.
Yeah well 91 octane sucks and he's running a stock intercooler...so he's not fully bolted. If he was he'd be around 280ish whp on 91 octane. 93 octane would get him 290-300 whp. E85 mix would be 300-310+ whp.
With the numbers he claims, he's probably running an intake and a downpipe or possibly just a testpipe, on crap 91 octane. I assure you he's making at least 300 wtq however.
I think about 280 @ the rear wheels
erik dennard sneaky lil comment there :^)
The sti is only 305hp at the engine not at the wheels awd looses 20% off that power so it has around 244whp what sucks 😩
I agree with impossible, none of these cars are full bolt ons lol
But I love seeing everyday cars have some fun in Mexico.
Ps poor sti he got bullied lol
I just beat a “full bolt on” speed 3 with my stock 2021 sti.
Love those first gen speeds. Arent they faster than the second gen?
Its a mixed bag. "The updated car came with some additional weight, which was offset by the ECU and gear updates."
From driving a few of both, I can tell you it boils down to the individuality of the car condition, driver and mods.
That minimal FWD drivetrain loss
Who owns that red Mazda 3? Tell him I wanna give him the sauce extra guacamole! I live in the spring side of Mexico
goes to show the difference between 300 crank and 300whp
So the speed with the least amount of bolt ons has more power on the same 91 tune .... 🤨🧐🤔
Do it again with 3” of snow
My corolla has 132hp (I'm broke lmao) and that thing fucking fly's when you get the gearing perfect. I can't imagine what 300hp does.
I went from my beloved ‘95 corolla weighing 2200 pounds with 110ish hp to the ms3 and my speed 3 feels about 3 times faster lol... corners way better too and with a 6spd short shifter it is a joy to rip through the mountain roads. I test drove a ton of cars and the ms3 was my favorite by far. I’d highly recommend it as the next step for ya. I still got the faithful ‘rolla though 😌
wtf is the 2nd gen owner taking about, full bolt ons and pushing less horsepower than stock? 😂😂😂
It's so funny all these people saying these cars are slow. That speed 3 has 300hp and only weighs 3000 pounds. That's one hell of a good power to weight ratio. It may not be the fastest but I'm sure it's faster than what 95% of the population is driving.
I was about to fall asleep watching this but nice change up
no speed limits were broken on this day.
If some of you actually built something before saying anything youd know 500 hp is alot of time money and no matter what some of ypu think thats a finished built car alot of the time push it past 500 and yoyr doing internal work
I think something is being forgotten... the Mazdas are all tuned... the WRX STi was some "wanna be". He didnt know that his car was 305hp at the crank. Makes him comparable to the mazdas in numbers but the tunes gave the advantage. With just a change of maps on that Sti it would've been a completely different story. I've smoked SRT's and Mustangs in my WRX stage 2+) but I am not going to race a blown 5.0 or anything. I know my place... I also know that come winter when it's snowing outside I get to have way more fun. I also get to have more fun on back roads... well pretty much anywhere. Lets see those 800hp monsters hang in the corners on a WRC track. Who wants to go in a straight line all the time.
“Full bolt ons” wow what an in depth description of the car. Lovely. God i hate that phrase.
Full bolt on is literally known In the community as the basic mods. Intake exhaust mods and intercooler. Basic mods. Instead of everyone repeating the same mods over and over they just say bolt on to keep it simple.
This is what a race car looks like when all you need is regular gas..
Full bolt ons for 250-300whp is not that good, at least not compared to an FBO golf or Evo.
there cars are so loud i cant even hear it, dang!!!
This should be called... affordable street racing
this is epic.
did you guys slow down the video. lol
Subi guy naming off mods like it matters lol😂😂
Minute 1:01 full bolts and 20 pounds of boost only making 250-260🤦♂️
Lol stock is 263
Says 300hp showdown when the mazdaspeed are 300whp
305 at the fly on the sti. These guys.
lol that STi doesn't make 300 to the WHEELS, more like 230. Owner should've said that instead of saying 30,0 while the others were talking about whp and not crank.
+Alvin Rohani i think the camera guy knew he meant to the crank when he said 305. how would he make 305 to the wheels and his car was basically stock.
he said to the crank
I would have died if the chase car was some 1khp monster.
FBO Viper or Hellcat or something xD
Holy shit please mod that sti it's fucking emabrassing
I don’t even know why that stock ass sti tried... the factory tune is trait dudu. I’m surprised Subaru doesn’t just give a dam accessport with the new keys of lot lol.
so fun
the most non offensive sounding race ever
That red mazda 3 is fast
The STi has major turbo lag. Owner probably doesn't know that and rolled from 4th.
Yeah I would’ve brake boosted the STi but from my experience the mazda would still take it by a nose. The better driver usually wins anyway 🤙🏽
@@miguelajanel2332 oh absolutely
Lmao that STI got gapped nicely
+steez gapped by 1 car by the guy who was on E85 with full bolt ons and kept up with the silver modified speed3 when the STI was basically stock. thats pretty good on the STI's part if you ask me.
+blahyou77 Yea but the STI is in an entirely different price range. The owner of the red gen 1 probably paid 15k for the car and all the mods to get him to where he's at while the STI owner dropped almost 40k to get gapped by a FWD hatch lol.
+Turd Ferguson I'm not even going to acknowledge your ignorance if you think someone paid 15k for a speed3, an E85 setup, the supporting mods for it, and the numerous tunes for it (no car is tuned just one time) and if getting beat by 1 car is being GAPPED you're clearly not around racing. The guy got beat in a stock STI by a full bolt on E85 turbocharged car, if the speed 3 didn't win, he's got problems. And obv the STi is going to be more expensive, it's a brand new car. You don't know if that speed3 was owned since new or how much money he put into it. If you're going to comment, please have the ability to reason and make sense of what you say, otherwise it's irrelevant and you look like you're not the sharpest tool in the shed.
There is no E-85 setup on these cars. It's a $200 tune and fill up. But what would I know I only own a fully bolted E-85 speed3 lol.
+Turd Ferguson literally, the first speed3 that is spoken about, the guy says he's on E85 thirty seconds into the video. like i said before, clearly youre not the sharpest tool in the shed.
ok, I know why you guys say that you raced in 'mexico' but it's hard to buy that when all the street signs, businesses, gas stations are all in English lol just sayin, should blur out that crap as well.
that aside, killer race. miss my ms3
crotchrocket00 nope, I'm in the Canada race club. But that's all I can tell you ; )
I feel asleep watching those "races"
pretty good video for those mazdaspeed fan boys lol
Hi from monterrey
I understand it still doesn't add up
speed 3s can make around 360 crank with full bolt ons
Apparently not lmao
+3AE They most def can, but not these guys with 1/2 the boltons and crappy 91/93 tunes. You need an E85 mix with a good tune, i/c upgrade, hpfp, dp, and intake to do it.
+DrtySpd10 they sure can, that's the reason why everyone tunes them lmao!
grey speed said full bolt ons with a stock intercooler lmao
I, know, then he said 250-260hp when that’s slightly less than it’s rated stock 😆
Zoom zoom baby i got the 08 mazdaspeed 3