JOHN BROWNE | MESA/BOOGIE DUAL RECTIFIER (METAL CHANNELS 2 & 3)
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Here is a reamp demo of the Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier Multi Watt Amplifier.
I boost the amp in this video with a Fulltone OCD pedal as dual recs are notoriously dry amps (something I love!). I felt this demonstrated the amp better for metal purposes.I used the same DI signal as the EVH Video so you can flip back and forth between amps whilst hearing the same riffs.
Signal Chain:
Mayones Duvell Elite 6 String
Seymour Duncan P-Rail Pickups
Line 6 Helix (as reamp box)
Fulltone OCD Pedal
Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier Multi-Watt Head (Bold/Diode/100watt)
Mesa Boogie Oversized Rectifier 4x12 Cabinet
Shure SM57 Microphone
Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 Soundcard
Steinberg Cubase 7.0.7
Toontrack Superior Drummer
Damn this riff hits you right in the feels
Amazing to see that this demo is what animus’ chorus turned out to be!
THIS is the closest of any Rectifier demo video to how they sound in person. Only it's still better in real life...
best amp around. love mine. great vid dude
That sounds amazing but one offer to tweak to the EQ'ing at the end - cut the mud out around 250-300Hz, but boost around the same amount around 100Hz to keep some of the percussiveness! Sounds great already!
Am I tripping?
I just learnd the Animus chorus riff the other day and now this got recommended to me?
I'm sorry for responding to an old comment. in the Ola England Interview with John Browne, John mentioned that Animus was written for Gnosis years ago but they didn't originally have vocals for it.
I hope i remembered that right. Cheers!
Really good video that.. No messing around talking about yourself for 40% of the time...showed exactly how it worked.. I'm gonna get one now
The final mixing result is awesome!
I love the orange channel boosted with a MaxonOD808. Tone heaven.
Love mine also, it’s THE metal sound.
John, complete this song please! the riff is sooo good. I come here daily to play along
Paul Reuter I did, it’s a track that was submitted for MIII that didn’t make it.
Loving these videos, know that we'll keep watching if you keep uploading.
hey john, first of all of like to say I'm a huge fan of the music you've done with monuments. I really enjoy your angular riffs and phrasing. also, my drummer friend and I have been debating forever what time signature the intro to horcrux is in so if you could help settle our debate, we would much appreciate it. keep up the good music!
+Brian Lindner Horcrux intro riff is in 4/4! Glad you like the stuff!
Ahhh, I assumed it was in an odd time because it sounds like the G Bb A figure happens on different beats each measure
It does, I just never count things like that, it's always about feel, and the whole riff is in 4/4 (where it cycles)
If you ever decide to get a Dual Rec, avoid the first TriChannel by all means. I was uninformed and ended up getting that flub&fizz factory. It also practically dies in the mix.
You want to either buy this "100W Head" which is the new multiwatt version, or an old two-channel Recto (REV G would be awsome!). Or just get an EVH 5150 III.
Great vid, John!
I got the non multiwatt three channel version from 2008 and it sounds unbelieveble. The trick is to set the EQ right, basically turn up the mids and the presence, lower the bass and it will sound exactly like the multiwatt if not better. Alot of iconic albums recorded with a non multiwatt version in the early 2000's
Thanks for showing your eq settings during the full song at the end. I just recorded a few tracks with a 57 and had a hell of a time getting the great tone and coming out of the amp to translate exactly on to the recording. There was this top end 'harshness' that was plaguing the sound. When I'd eq it out, it had no sparkle. Anyways, great video.
The change when the EQ kicks it at the end !!!
thats a nice unique type of riff you play there
I feel like such an idiot! Why did I not think to run something through my looper and then dial in my tone from there!!! 💥🙄🔫
I have one of these with full Voodoo Platinum level modds, the Mercury transformers, it's insane. I don't know what a hack like me is doing with gear that nice, but I'm not complaining. Seriously, I walk by the thing and randomly hug it. Just traded an Orange RVmk1 100 for an older gen Triple with some SICK tubes in it. It's a beast as well... but that Voodoo Multiwatt....jesus.
Makes me miss my Roadster. I will have another dual rec some day soon.
Great video. Killer tone, those p-90 have a very distinct tone.
This makes me want to have a Mesa rec so bad...
man that is one fat world class riff fuck ya
I have this exact amp. It rips and has killer mids and low end. I use a MXR 10 band EQ in front to tighten it up a bit and a Tube Screamer just for a tiny bit of extra gain. It tends to bring out the highs a bit.
+BrandonofRedemption I usually use a GE7 infront as well, have done for years.
+John Browne I'll have to check that out.
I have owned a Road King, 2 channel, 2 channel rack, 2000s dual and triple, Multi watt triple and dual, and now I own a roadster. The new multiwatts by far track cleaner and clearer than any rectifier to date. They are incredible. Live they are at the top as well, but noticed being in a 3 piece the roadster sound much warmer and better live and fills the void better. But If you are just playing guitar in a 4 piece the multiwatt is king. They can get real fizzy live thats why the roadster works better live for me at least. But my god I miss my Multiwatt. I had a blacked out one, black diamond plate. ugh fml. AND YES GE-7 FTW with boost. But John browne, try the ge-7 in the back, MUCH BETTER. Bring, the bass up a tad, and the bass mid up a tad, then slightly scoop the mid, kinda like a very very subtle V shape, it sounds amazing.
I have a Be Od and a Precision Od, sounds amazing through this amp.
NICE TONE!
Just started checking out your music from see this video and it's killer! What song are you playing in the demo?
Curious John what’s your opinion on the single rectifier I. Comparison. Only curious because its Much cheaper to upkeep but worried might not quiet be the same figured you’d know best when it comes to rectifiers and these types of tones.
The single is very underrated and overlooked. The Dual and Triple have a bit more low end due to more wattage. The single seems to be a slight bit brighter. The Single will get every bit as aggressive as the Dual. It gives up nothing to the Dual in terms of volume. In fact, it's loud as hell. The series II solo 50 is the one to get because you have a switch to change between to EL34 and 6L6's. It also has three modes instead of two on the gain channel. I wouldn't turn down a series one though for the right price.
The Dual and Triple also have the rectifier tubes which the single does not. Being that most people who play modern metal have the switch set to solid state diode instead of tube rectifier, it is a moot point anyways. Those rectifier tubes are another thing you won't have to worry about with a Single. I guess you could say it's in solid state rectifier mode all the time.
The single is all about what setup you got going on taking into factors like the guitar, tubes, speakers and the overdrive pedal pushing it (needed for tightness). That could be said for many amps though. I think the single shines with an EL34 or KT77 type tube. That is just my two cents. I have a Single now and previously had a Dual Rectifier ( not the mutli watt). I just didn't get along with the Dual. The cost of tube changing is also a plus with a Single. Retubing a Triple is $$$!
I can't comment on the multi - watt versions because I have not tried those yet.
Always thought of the Dual Rec as a flubby kinda amp
Apparently not!
+blackjackmcgack it can be, the pedal is good at tightening things up.
Oh sweet! Nice work dude :)
Absolutely not! I've owned one for a year soon and when dialed correctly, it is tight as percussive as hell, but if you turn the bass way to high it get's really flubby, but you can go rather high without flubbyness, atleast in my experience, works excelent with closed cab, but i don't really know with open cabs as they tend to be bassier. that might be why you think this.
Yeah, I've owned a rec for 7 years and it can be flubby, but it can also be extremely tight. It all depends on how you eq it. Generally you need way less bass than you'd expect and the more mids you add the tighter it gets.
Another reason people might think they're flubby is because they pick up any technique flaws when you're playing way too well. So a player who sounds good through a modeling amp can sound like a mess through a Rectifier.
I know when I recently got a modeling practice amp for home use I was amazed how easy it was to play through. I don't want to get too used to that though, got to keep the chops up.
It's more or less when you know how to eq it, it wont get flubby, but when you don't know how to eq it properly, its gonna get flubby and weird. The dual rec's eq is a little bit weird as everything changes from the slightest thouch on the mids or bass or stuff like that. I've only had one for a year but i manage to eq it the way i want to, but only since like 2 months back, before that i just tried my best to copy other peoples tones to get something good out of it lol... Cheers!
Animus!
Those p rails are interesting sounding. I love boogie stuff though.
Metal tone.... Awesome!
fizz city mic placement
Why?
Your so cool
thats what rectifiers sound like.
@@dyamicorriveau9677 not it's not. all the low end is missing
Wich channel is better for modern metal tone?
Did you cut out the 6k(ish) hiss?
hi here use a el34 or 6l6?what i best valve for this ampli and valveves
How r u liking the p-rails? Do u find them versatile?
+Jack Simmons Yeh dude they are really great pickups. Work for alot of different things.
Bit of a necro-bump! But, the flick of the switch at 1:07, is that Ch2 heading from Raw into Modern?
Yes. From top to bottom it goes Raw>Vintage>Modern. You can see him flip to the middle (Vintage) from Modern before flipping up to Raw and then back down to Modern
is this riff new monuments or new solo stuff? Not on Qatsi that I can tell (tasty album by the way)
M3 Hasn't made the Official cut yet but it's Atlas PT2
dammit I love the tone you get from the dual rectifier... I'm still struggling to get this kind of tone (very focused with a good definition).
just sick!!! just wow!!!
Would you please do a Helix/Real amp shootout? That would be an incredibly useful demonstration of the options available to home recording.
Both Kemper and AxeFx2 in my opinion sound better. Line 6 still has terrible distortion sounds.
That's your opinion, i find the Pod/Helix better for more 'in your face' sounds than both the kemper and axe fx.
To be totally fair, all three units sound great when you dial them in, and none of them sound perfect out of the box. Like John, however, I do find the Helix to be a bit more present. I also appreciate the interface; I still shudder over the time it took me to wrangle my Ultra when I first switched over to digital racks years ago -- the Helix was up and running in just a few hours. I definitely don't want to invite a long, drawn out debate here (you can already find those on the respective products' forums and long arguments over on the Gear Page) I'm just personally saying that as someone who's used all three units, the assertion that the Axe FX or KPA sounds better is usually made by naysayers of Line 6, rather than individuals who've spent any real time with the Helix. Personally, I opted for the rack model with the accompanying floor unit and run my own Mission pedals (rather than the floor processor itself), and it's completely replaced my Axe FX for both recording and live play (not that I do much of the latter anymore).
I had the Axe Fx Mark 2 for about a year...and overall I wasn't super impressed. It took so long to dial in the tones, especially a great distortion tone (to my liking). Once I finally got it, it sounded pretty good though. I ran it through a Matrix Amplification GT-1000FX and a Bogner Uberschall 4x12. I'd say the hype on Fractal is a bit overproduced.
Asking you though from your experiences....how great is the Helix? I will admit i'm skeptical of Line 6 knowing firsthand how bad some of their tones have been in the past (Spider combo amps and series). That doesn't mean i'm a naysayer, but I'm interested in the Helix because I keep hearing great things. Do you have any soundclips?
metalhed8908 I also ran my Axe through a Matrix, but opted for an FRFR cab. And it also took me a long time to get a high-gain tone I really loved. Same boat, for sure.
I don't have any soundclips for the Helix at the moment, but I'll try and get some on Soundcloud when I have some time. And I totally empathize with your skepticism; all I can say is, as both a room player, and as someone who made a living gigging for some time, I never touched any of the Line 6 gear outside of the HD500. I owned an old bean Pod as well, which I used to record scratch tracks about 15 years ago, but the HD500 was honestly the only other Line 6 product I purchased before the Helix. I was, like you, very unimpressed with their kit.
I played and owned a lot of other modelers as well; nearly every multi-effects unit Boss has ever put out, including the GT-100, which is collecting dust in drawer somewhere, and I've owned many Marshall, Orange, and Mesa rigs. Lots of racks as well; outside of the Helix and Axe, I also had an Eleven Rack for some time. So I've been around this block a few times, all with varying degrees of success.
For me, the decision came down to putting Helix next to my Axe, playing the patches I use most often, and just making a subjective decision. There are areas where the Axe shines, for sure, but for my money, the Helix just made more sense, being astronomically easier to work with (especially on the fly if needed). I also love the full color LCD scribble strips on the foot controller -- game changer, in my opinion. My only gripe, was my current SP1 and EP1's don't work with it, so I had to spend another few hundred dollars to get new "Line 6" Mission Pedals. I understand why this was necessary (I talked to Mission about the L6 tech), but it still felt like a bit of a detractor. That being said, it was still substantially less for the floorboard, the pedals, and the separate foot controller with the rack unit, than it was for my full Axe setup.
Your mileage my vary, of course, and I would suggest checking out one of their floor units at a local shop if you can get the chance. Good luck!
Does anyone know what song he is playing?
Jordan Sage don’t quote me but I think it’s a part of atlas from the amanuensis
Animus by Monuments - ua-cam.com/video/SJ8lqCFn40I/v-deo.html
I don’t think there are enough demos of the rectifier without a pedal in front of it.
Any chance the multi-watt recto can sound good at conversation level volumes?
Yes and No. The point of the Rectifiers is having a quasi-religious experience through this huge, wide-open and powerful roar that is like some great force of nature coming alive in your living room. But sure, you can get a similar "sound" at lower volumes.
Yes. The multi Watt has a master volume.
it seems the multi watt sounds a little less harsh than my mid 2000's 3 channel
Were these el34s or 6l6s?
What are the settings on the OCD?
Is this a song? sounds amazing!
ok i just heard it in the studio update, very excited
did you use the riff in an actual song?
Atlas pt.2
Isn’t that the animus riff?
had it laying there for like 3 years before actually releasing it haha. I believe it was supposed to be a track on the 3rd album with Chris but they never included it as he never finished vocals for it.
можно попросить di гитары для реампинга?
Fulltone OCD Pedal parameters?
+Hell Damm Gain 1/4, Tone 3/4 volume 3/4 Peak switch up.
What was his settings
What song is that? I want to learn it ! :)
+Mika Tarkela (Floge) Probably new Monuments
+Mika Tarkela (Floge) "Atlas" from the album "Amanuensis"
***** Nope, not Atlas lol
+Cristian Baz You're right, gave it another listen. Sounds similar though.
Can anyone tell me if the dual rectifier would ever need an overdrive/boost in front of it to do super heavy chugging palm muted riffs? I like the supper tight crunchy tones of Master of Puppets and And Justice for All. I know a 2C+ would be ideal, but there's no way I could buy one. How well would the dual rectifier do those types of chugging scooped thrash tones?
Definitely needs a boost if you're tuning lower, i actually quite like it without on a 6 in near standard. But a boost definitely makes it tighter.
I see. I only play 6 string but I occasionally play in drop D. Thanks for your help.
must have otherwise its round and shapeless
SKULL KRUSHER buy a Mark V, is way tighter than a Recto and makes palm mute a dream.
If you like super tight tones like me then yes.I won't play mine without one. Using a Horizon Devices Precision Drive in front of mine right now.I want to try a Fortin 33 pedal in front next
is there tabs for this??? this is awesome!
a little bit late but Levi Clay has a video lesson on youtube
Top de mais !!! 👏👏👏🤟🤟
2:39 wwwwooOOOOOOWWWWW!!!!!
T0ne
*demoing a metal amplifier
*palm mutes like 3 times in the whole video
Haha
do fucking chords!
Djent doesn't really need chords.. it is not like regular metal..
gayest most generic "metal" riffage I've ever heard..
When a dude with the name ‘realms of darkness’ and a picture of a pentagram talks about generic.
Animus!