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- Michael Jackson and Quincy Jones, one of music's most profitable and celebrated collaborations after they raked in record sales into the 100s of millions, and in turn, changed the course of modern pop music. But with the insurmountable successes they achieved together, also came tensions as their power dynamic changed with rising fame, money and rivalry.
In this video we document Quincy Jones, in his own words, recount the very special and tormented relationship he had with the legendary 'King Of Pop'.
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Quincy was right when he said the Thriller video would be the Citizen Kane of music videos. To this day it's still the most iconic video ever created.
a real visionary
Meh...Thriller? It was ok😂😂
"most iconic video ever created"
Lmao no it is not it's not even the most viewed let alone iconic
@@saintpepsi8602 Were you born yesterday? Thriller is literally the most played video in MTV history.
To have Michael, Quincy, Stevie wonder, and Lionel Richie all standing on the same stage at once is insane. Too many legends
Dionne Warwick as well
@@thegreytone😂😂😂
Don’t forget Dionne Warwick
@@julz7753 Donne Warwick had a doobie in her mouth I remember those days
People on here disrespecting the role of the producer. Quincy worked with Michael to move him into a different direction. Maybe people should look at Michael’s album before Quincy and his stuff after Quincy. No one is denying Michael’s talent or drive but for solo artists, producers are like band members. Quincy is due his props and money. This does not take anything from Michael so stop the tribal nonsense. I love Michael as much as everyone else but Michael’s best products have been with Quincy Jones full stop.
Agreed.
Agreed 💯 👍
...did I say I agree 💯? Well I absolutely 💯 agree...those two collaborating was priceless! And their relationship was geniune!
Right
You nailed it Kehinde A! A lot of people know nothing about the music business, and the intricacies of the collaborative process of producing. It is very obvious that you do. Q’s contract, input, song arrangements, assembling the all-star cast of musicians, and engineers (like the late, great Bruce Swedien) Q’s publishing percentages etc. is something most of the people commenting on this thread are woefully ignorant. Q’s role in assisting Michael with producing 3 ground-breaking, back-to-back Lp’s is unsurpassed. Thank you for your clear, concise commentary. 👏🏿🎼👏🏿🎶👏🏿
Quincy is not only one of the best composers and musicians ever but arguably the best producer to ever live! If you know his extensive work you’ll probably agree
Barry Gordy would b 1st on my list of best producers of all-time time Quincy 2nd to none other than Barry .
THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS HE NEVER REALLY LIVED WE ARE ALL DEAD MILLIONS OF TIMES OVER HOW MANY BHUDAS AND JESUSES ARE THEY AND HAVE BEEN IN COPY..I AM THE CARBONS COPY OF COPIES.......DEATH AND LIVING IS THE SAME THING OTHERWISE WHY WOULD YOUR HAIR AND NAILS STILL GROW BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT DEAD YET EVEN WHEN YOU NOT BREATHING YOUR ALIVE INSIDE YOUR CORPS THE JAIL CELL.👌🏾🤌
@@atomatman3104Hey son ! Your caps are on !
he's great but giorgio moroder was better
Well, he's not primarily known as a composer or musician.
Michael really respected this man even after they stopped working together
Yes!
Michael ALWAYS mentioned Quincy Jones in his award reception speeches....
@@mjjeternal7760 still can't believe of all people Quincy could also say those things about mj
Yet Quincy is not above talking smack about him after him passed
👁 remember there was a question that Michael was asked in the mid 2000s (Can’t remember where 👁 read it) about the possibility of him & Q working 2gether again & Michael said “The door is always open.”
@@kumu.9731 True🖤
In the world of music, Michael and Quincy’s teamwork was a match made in heaven.
Yup couldn't last forever I guess. Well the finished product will ❤
I bet they both had another hit album in them
Don't forget Music Composer Rod Temperton. Quincy Jones LONG time Music Partner.
Which Michael F-ed up big time.....
“In a world filled with hate, we must still dare to hope. In a world filled with anger, we must still dare to comfort. In a world filled with despair, we must still dare to dream. And in a world filled with distrust, we must still dare to believe.” ― Michael Jackson
MICHAEL WAS NO GREAT INTELLECT, AND HAD VERY LITTLE SUBSTANCE OUTSIDE OF HIS SINGING AND DANCING.
@@chuckfrost5624 no one ever said he was a great intellectual. You don’t have to be a great intellectual to say some meaningful about being kind, about dreaming, and about hoping. Especially when you did in fact make all your musical dreams come true
@@chuckfrost5624 how you know
Do you ever have a conversation with the man ? 🤔🧐
@@MrPapouchka would never follow or worship a creepy guy like Michael Jackson. All of that said, MICHAEL was a wonderful pop singer and dancer.
He was an artist and entertainer, thats completely different from an intellectual but the WHOLE point of art is 'creating something meaningful'. The quote is a little too cliche and saccharine for me, but there are lots of people who NEED saccharine, when life is really shitty then you really need kitten posters and cliches, they're cliche's for a reason. I don't even listen to his music but thats a 'nice' quote, and its obvious what a musician and entertainer he was, nuff said.
A massive Quincy fan and NOT an MJ one, I always assumed Q came up with the great musical tropes on Thriller. After hearing MJ's bedroom demos (done on a little keyboard ) I realised how brilliant MJ himself was. The great Billie Jean baseline, the guitar line on Beat It, etc were already there, created by MJ himself.
well the billie jean baseline is questionable
just heard the beat it demo... that's insane... his talent was unbelievable
@@secretaryofstate1 The bass playing on Thriller was by the late, great Louis Johnson. I very much doubt Michael was telling him what to play most of the time. When you have a musician of that calibre at your disposal, you play / sing him the melody and then just let him do his thing. Having said that it isn't impossible that Michael had the Billie Jean baseline in his head as it's pretty simple, so he could have given Louis that and asked him to go with it. On that particular tune, the baseline IS the melody, so it's kind of different.
MJ ...was a driven genious...we will not see such a person again...
Yeah I come from the same perspective I was very skeptical of what made MJ 'great' but it may be beyond as it's emotionally tied obviously - and of course pure natural talent from the ground up. I always 'saw' the dancing talent of Michael - I assumed Motown threw Michael all the straight pitches (with the peak of the production talent at Motown) ...and still assume they probably had much input as Michael was just soo young - they sure helped him and he helped them !! I have all of Quincy Jones albums until 1980 always got excited finding those great LPs and soundtracks and things he produced - so Quincy was my gateway to Michael. :) Good comment macmachine.
I'm a grown a-- man. So why I be crying watching videos about MJ? Forever the King of Pop. ♥️♥️♥️
Bc we’ll never see any new art from him again.
We’ll never get to see him perform as he grows old.
He should have lived to be an elderly man and it’s so sad because he was robbed of that.
Off the wall and Thriller were Michael's happiest years. The light in his eyes faded by the time Bad came out.
His light did not fade during Bad, but instead he grew as an artist and kinda broke free from the shyness
@@samkelisiwemasondo8357 he was shy but the press where nicer to him. so he was probably more happy during those days
Even though he was completely traumatized by the trial. I really believe he had very joyful moments after 2005.
I disagree I think the Bad era was Michael at his peak he was simply untouchable no one came close to him. When it was time for Dangerous thats when all the trouble started
@@legendkiller0 Exactly. 1993 was where he "died" tbh. He never recovered from those allegations. Imo, Destiny - Triumph were his best Jacksons years, Off the Wall - Bad his best solo years. Dangerous started great, especially after the Super Bowl but then the allegations....
Quincy is the greatest producer of all time. What an incredible man.
Should be, if you can make so much out of nothing.
In my opinion I believe no one warned MJ how cruel the music industry can be and he went in genuinely to do music to make people happy. The people around would not warn him because they wanted to get much from him to build up their personal self. SIP MJ
Stop it 🛑. He knew he was raised in the Music industry. Don't believe the hype. He just found out as an adult who really got the power !
He didn't need to be warned, he been in the business since five years old 🙄
The music industry is not what hurt Michael Jackson, it was Michael Jackson himself. All those surgeries he had done on his face, those young boys who said they were drugged and raped by Mr. Jackson. That fake marriage to Lisa Marie Presley, where no marriage certificate was ever found. Michael Jackson destroyed his own career. He wanted to have a women's face.
He went into the music business because his father made him and his brothers. At 5 years old he had no choice. By the time he could speak for himself he had been in it so long that's all he knew.
@@deeabbensetts3218 MICHAEL JACKSON RUINED HIS OWN CAREER AND HIS OWN LIFE. HE WAS A NUT AND EVERYBODY KNEW IT.
Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad made history
Dangerous as well. It was a world wide event when it was released. Even here in the middle east we were hyped about it.
@@BadAssMacmillan What a time, what a feeling! I always dream of living in Dangerous Era :(
@@annieluu4456 it was the best. His music video releases would take over all of cable t.v. The world would stop at 4pm for Oprah and anytime Michael dropped a single.
@@kenny808kine8 AMAZING! How about History Era?
@@kenny808kine8 Oprah is a B**CH She did MJ dirty!!
Michael was a BRILLIANT talent.... his light will never cease...he is loved forever
💞💞💞
Yeah!
YES HE WAS TALENTED, BUT HE WAS CRAZY AND CREEPY. HE LOOKED LIKE A CIRCUS CLOWN.
Good talent but didn't play well with others.
Hello
Both Quincy and Michael were great together, both were great both before and after their 3 album collaboration. Quincy had more of a jazz background, he led his own bands, he produced Lesley Gore, he produced dozens of movie scores and did very good r and b albums that stood on their own in the 70s. The Dude was a classic. He never mentioned his prime collaborator on those albums, Rod Temperton. It wasn’t just Michael or Quincy. No doubt in my mind, Quincy helped take MJs musical game to a whole new level. Maybe in the beginning it was some kind of paternal father/son thing but the power relationship changed. MJ was shrewd and intelligent, no babe in the woods. Remember, MJ bought the Beatles catalog out from under Paul McCartney. I’m sure Jones was shocked to essentially get fired after the Bad album. Bad was a great album but was released almost 5 years after Thriller and the music scene was changing; Michael felt he had to change with it so he went with another producer for his Dangerous album. Was Michael right? I think history bears that out. Dangerous was a great album; MJ took the kind of chances with his sound that might never been attempted with Quincy producing. I’m sure Michael was irritated with the notion that Q was the puppet master of his success and needed to prove he could do it without him. Is Q modest? No, and would you be if you produced 3 of the highest grossing albums of all time? Absolutely not. I don’t see Q as trying to hog all the credit or being a bitter old man; he’s just not going to minimize his role or speak in falsely modest tones for no reason at all
Yes, and unlike Michael's previous albums, Dangerous used multiple producers like Bill Bottrell, Bruce Swedien, Teddy Riley etc. Michael was really looking for a fresh sound with the dawn of the nineties, and his collab with Quincy had run its course. That was a moment in time and it was time to move on for Michael.
I've written a write up on Rod Temperton Russell. It's surprising, and a little disappointing, that Quincy Jones doesn't mention or give credence to the true genius at work here. It took 3 people here....not just QJ and MJ. RIP Rod and Michael.
Yep you summed it up, two strong willed legends!!!! They both created history together!!!!
@@martinplatt5928 not true. Quincy has always shown love to Rod.
Neither was perfect but they were great together. that was well said.
Arguably the best musical collaboration ever! Quincy Jones & Michael Jackson (King of Pop) = Forever timeless & Legendary!
FOREVER NEVER EXISTED.
Swagger...don't forget Quincy Jones LONG time music partner, Rod Temperton.
Any producer worth their salt would have done incredible things with an incredible talent. There's nothing extra special about Quincy Jones, Michael Jackson on the other hand, was a creative phenomenon. Quincy Jones is a narcissist, Michael Jackson always showed humility.
@@exdoode As a creative myself via song writing, music artist, award winning art finalist, & video editing etc I disagree!
@@exdoodeif that is true why did MJ fail to make a hit in the last 20 years of his career and blame Tommy Motola for his failed Albums?
Bad was an amazing album. I honestly don't get till this day why MJ was so disappointed about it. Bad, Dangerous and Invincible are my favorite albums.
MJ was disappointed simply because he wanted to top Thriller in sales. Plus he didn’t win Grammys for bad
@@caseyfalconer7347 yeah I was thinking it had to do with not winning a Grammy after breaking a record of most wins on a single night. Also the fact that thriller was the most sold and bad did not sell as well (which is an extremely hard thing to reach). The pressure was probably a lot.
MJ had insane goals. He wanted Bad to beat Thriller in sales and sell over 100 million records. Bad is one of the most successful albums ever, other artists would KILL to have an album like Bad under their resume. The problem is that MJ like what I said had insane goals and was a perfectionist. He didn't understand that Thriller was an anomaly, no album will ever be as big as Thriller, even though MJ did make albums as good as Thriller music wise.
@@BadAssMacmillan he sorta killed his momentum by releasing I just can't stop loving you as his first single. Add the fact many people didn't like his "new look" and thought he turned his back on his own people
@@SwagSurf-od3vx But that first single went to number one, and was the first out of the five number ones from Bad. Besides he did the same thing with Thriller. He released The girl in mine in late 82 before releasing Billie Jean in 1983. I think it’s safe to say that album did well
and now i'm crying... MICHAEL Jackson's life is too hard..
@@matthewberkin5924 Who hurt you?? 😂😂😂😂
Michael had no childhood 🥺
I vividly remember hearing Don't Stop Till You Get Enough on the radio in late summer 79. It was so different from everything else. The Jackson' had a hot run with Blame It On The Boogie & Shake Your Body Down To The Ground in the months leading up to his first solo album as an adult. Off The Wall was a fantastic album, terrific songs, a fantastic vibe and the sonics were sensational. When Thriller came along no one was prepared for the stunning success it enjoyed. The Billie Jean video broke new ground. The moonwalk appearance on Motown 25 we only saw on TV news clips in the UK as no major UK TV station broadcast the full show. The Thriller video debut was a major TV event on Chanel 4 on Friday night- It blew everyone away. Michael could do no wrong. This was the high point of what had already been an incredible career at Motown with his brothers and now as the biggest most recognised and successful artist on the planet. Dark forces would ultimately destroy the man and his career. He is one of the most instantly recognisable artists of all time on par with Elvis and the Beatles. A unique talent gone too soon.
Born in 1980 here! I remember a lot of music and the sound of music that still was kind of stagnant when it came to transitioning from the late 70's sound to what would be the sound of the 80's. The earliest I vividly remember hearing MJ was when I was about 3yrs old...it was "Billie Jean". That song hit the airwaves like hotcakes!!! Before that it seemed as if the 80's was trying to "find a sound"..as a lot of music around 1980-82 still had that late 70's feel to it, and although there were artists utilizing the early synth sounds, it didn't seem to break away from the disco/funk/groove feel. Until "Billie Jean". That was the 1st song I remember to kind of officially change the sound of music and usher in the new sound that would become the 80's. It just sounded different from anything at that time. That driving bass line was different. The bassline alongside the sharp "POP!" of the percussion would just smash your ears!! The dramatic strings give the song an almost eerie, mysterious feel that was unheard of...add the Mike Myers like "CH- CH-Ch-ch-ch......." sounds and MJ's whoo's and ad libs...man...I was a tot but I remember what that sing felt like at that time, and sonically, it changed everything. Gone was the sound of the 70's...enter the new sound of the 80's. It was needed.
I do, however, also stand by the fact that "Off The Wall" is my favorite MJ album! "Off The Wall" was released a year before I was born and it's reign was during a time I was a baby to remember...so the 1st album I actively remember is the "Thriller" era. Years later, around the time I was in middle school and a huge MJ fan, I re discovered "Off The Wall". I was mesmerized and it became my favorite album by him then and that still stands today. But to me, "Billie Jean" changed everything...until the video for "Thriller" came out and took him to a whole nother stratosphere.
Ummm....the " moonwalk" was not his...it originally was called the BACKSLIDE And the 1st person to do it on television was the guy who sang in the group Shalamar....he did it on soultrain because he was originally a soul train dancer with his girlfriend JODI WATLY in the late 70's....you people don't know shit you just ride bandwagons and say the same DUMB SHIT everybody is saying without knowing history....HIS ORIGINAL CORE AUDIENCE KNOW THIS.....His fake fans and people who later TURNED ON HIM don't know shit.
MJ> Beatles-presley
It's weird because Don't Stop has such a crisp, clear sound, unlike any other disco record. When I first heard it I couldn't believe it was from 1979
@@marcofloresmfcs1 this
The Genius of the Jackson/Jones combo is undeniable. What I admire about the three albums is how they redefine / reinvent MJ’s style each time.
Most albums are different chapters in an artist’s catalog - Off the Wall, Thriller, and Bad are different BOOKS.
Off the Wall is still my favorite MJ album. Classic.
I was just speaking about this last week. To me Off The Wall is a gem 💎 my all time favorite 🤩
i love that analogy. yes they’re definitely different books
Quincy is a genius, an extremely talented man, to say the opposite would be madness, but to say that without him Michael would be nothing is ridiculous, why didn't he create a New Michael Jackson after the latter's departure.
Quincy is a genius I repeat, to say the opposite would be madness, but the truth is that the sort of jealousy towards Michael that I find a pity, Michael clearly wrote and composed half of the Thriller album.
Honestly michael was already the center of attention even before quincy tbh
@@AliciaR5567 That is really true! Michael was already famous before Quincy did the album with him.
And FOREVER MICHAEL, his album before The Wiz Soundtrack and Off The Wall, had flopped so the pressure was on. Especially since a year before off the wall came out, the debut album by Prince dropped (after a bidding war that Michael's label was involved in but lost).
Sony was determined to win against Warner brothers. And they did, initially at least.
I think Quincy Jones is starting to get crazy at his age, what would Quincy Jones be if Michel Jackson had never collaborated with him? Well, he would be one more producer of the bunch talent, but the fame that he has even if he doesn't want to admit it is thanks to Michael Jackson.
@@marcialgarcialopez2308 while I do agree that he's kinda crazy, but still.... Just no. Quincy had about ten Grammys before meeting Michael, and another ten after he stopped working with him.
MJ was an entertaining genius. That man knew the business like the back of his hand. His success was unmatched. Quincy was a great producer, but MICHAEL JACKSON put it all together. I respect Quincy’s input through the years but I do NOT like the negative things he’s said about the man who made him quite a bit of money - MJ!
Wtf are you on about? Quincy made Michael fam
@@SwagSurf-od3vx it's quite like with another producer Michael would still be Michael, but the same can't be 100% said about Jones
@@SwagSurf-od3vx you don't create a person like michael jackson
@@SwagSurf-od3vx michael would have been great without quincy because he was born for greatness those that had a chance to work with him are the lucky ones cause they worked with michael
@@gbogimichael156 lmfao stop the cap fam
Quincy was a genius musical talent. Remember I was hooked on the title track of "Sanford and Sons" without knowing who did that and then came all MJ's albums and I knew it was greatness.
Jesus don’t scare me like that thought he was dead when you said was lol
I find it so odd that MJ was so fierce when performing but so timid in interviews!
I don't🤷🏿♂️
Singing was his comfort zone.
Beyonce is the same. They’re both virgos. Virgos are very particular about their words in interviews. He knew he had to be careful with anything he said, which adds pressure and that is why Beyoncé gets made fun of for her interviews because she really chooses her words carefully and people say that because of that, she sounds uneducated. Beyoncé can be shy too. It’s interesting about virgos
@@jenniferd1476 you’re absolutely right about Virgos.
It was an act just like the high pitch speaking voice
8 weeks?! This may be an underestimation, but that sort of inspiration coming to Michael, Quincy, and the rest of the team at such a fast pace seems like a gift from God almighty.
Quincy can say all the negative things that he want about Micheal, but nobody really cares, Micheal could work with every other Big producer and make magic.
Exactly, that's the whole point. Quincy wanted to get attention. Michael made great music with other producer. You are so right, I didn't care what Quincy said, I found it was embarrassing for Quincy Jones, I thought he has dementia.
Also Michael was a really good producer in his own right, Quincy forgets to mention this fact as well and as others have mentioned, would often come to Quincy with tracks that were pretty much finished.
YOU DON'T CARE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH EDUCATION TO CARE.
Michael Jackson’s song quality and albums sales sharply declined after leaving Quincy. Michael wasn’t a great song writer on his own or a big game crushing producer. Most his albums were terrible after Bad.
@@kennyadedayo8550 Michael was a great song writer, he wrote "They don't care about us", the History Album was produced by Teddy Riley, 20 million copies worldwide, making it one of the best-selling albums of all time, Dangerous, (songwriter Michael Jackson, producer Teddy Riley) "Stranger, in Moskow", "Blood on the Dance Floor", Invincible was really a hit in Europe, producer (Rodney Jerkins, Teddy Riley), Invincible is one of my favorite albums. "Little Susie" (by Michael Jackson) one of his best songs: Songwriter Michael Jackson and Berry Gibb, "All in your Name", "What more can I give", Songwriter Michael Jackson. The quality and albums have not declined. Quincy wanted to change a few songs, and Michael didn't want that he is changing his music. Quincy attacked Michael. Michael went on with his career and he was better without Quincy. Quincy was too arrogant for such a big artist as Michael Jackson. I can even mention more names and songs he has written.
MJ was too good for this world. His talent to date is unmatched. I miss him so much, I just hope that wherever he is, he's having a much better living experience 😌
That's how it is! 💎💖🕺💖💎😇
He enjoys being fertilizer....
JEEZ, What do you mean "having a much better living experience", HE,S DEAD.
@@francishughes2016 he's dead in his physical form, but as you know energy cannot be destroyed it transfers
Dont be daft! He would probably still be with us if he did muck around with drugs
God gave us michael to test us on how we would treat a kind loving pure patient and a man ready to do anything to help heal the world and we failed
Yoooo, I’ve thought this so many times! That’s exactly what it feels like. 💔💔💔
Yup exactly
oh really??? So you know about God's plans and tests? 😂. Mike was a singer. Nothing more
@@bilalamarumosi8282 it's not my fault u can't see what I see neither is it yours
@@bilalamarumosi8282 But Michael was victimized from a lot of people and he deserved more support from people. Michael was not only a singer, he was so loved like no other dancer and singer in the whole world. He was a perfect example how to treat and respect other people. He was only one of 4 people in the world who gave the most charities. We have today so many super rich people who could have done so much more for the suffering of other people. They keep all their billions for themselves and they do nothing for any charities, especially during the epidemic. There is no other Michael in the world anymore. Just if you think, since its release, "We Are the World" has raised over $63 million (equivalent to $149 million today) for humanitarian causes. Ninety percent of the money was pledged to African relief, both long and short term. Throughout his life it is estimated that Michael donated 500 million to charities. I don't think you can give me the name of another artist who did the same for other people in misery. Michael's list of charities is endless. Look it up!
MICHAEL’S CREATIVITY IS UNMATCHED
Quincy's *
@@starpixelproduction7571 Beyond the recording studio, Quincy did nothing for MJ. It was his own doing.
@@TheUltimateOpportunist Well yeah,the stage shows were Michael's vision..
@@starpixelproduction7571 Quincy also needs to relax a little because MJ could still somewhat hold his own on the production side of things. They did great things together.
@@starpixelproduction7571
MANY people contributed to the unequalled success of those albums. Quincy didn't talk "smack" until Jackson's departure from him. Jones also didn't have as much success from anyone else, compared to the glory he achieved with Jackson.
I'm glad that I was alive and old enough to feel the energy and Magic that these 2 people produced.. I'll put up Their Music against anybody's ..You can't fully describe the feeling of that time..It was a good era to live in ..
No doubt Quincy helped launch him into superstardom. There’s also no question that Jackson’s one in a billion blend of talent and perfectionism would have resulted in huge success without him. Thriller is what happens when a perfect musician and world class producer collaborate.
I agree with everything except the “launch him into superstardom.” Michael didn’t need Quincy for that, he did it himself.
Michael would've had some monster records without him, but his catalogue would not have been remotely close to the same without Q!@@alex_n215
And Song writers. Without the songs there would be no album
Gotta give HUGE props to Quincy for Michaels success but there's alot of shadiness surrounding him as well. It's also interesting that he's outlived Almost All of the legends he's produced for, including Michael. Just saying.
What’s interesting about that?
@@justjarod7440 toute ces légendes avec qui il a travaillé son morte
Assholes like him usually wind up living the longest; nothing interesting about that
MJ was a huge superstar way before Quincy entered his life....
MJ was a drug addict who bought himself a shady doctor who ended up accidentally killing him. I love MJ but he was human and had flaws just like the rest of us. It’s sad and tragic what happened to him but he bears alot of responsibility for his situation
Michael was the greatest entertainer. We are pleased to have had him on earth. RIP Michael. You brought so much joy.
Quincy is the kind of success story that encourages me as a underground artist with a small following. Seeing how he’s developed his skills and slowly blown up after seizing each and every opportunity he’s been giving has been inspirational! Mans has quickly become a mainstay in the industry and for good reason. Dude is too nice! I know if I put in the work, I can reach a larger audience some day too, but for now, I’m happy being a supporter. My turn will come too. Salute to Quincy🔥
Good to hear! Even if your big idea of success doesn't come right away, remember youre doing what you enjoy and find meaning in so that's enough
Your turn won't necessarily come unless you're either talented or prepared to sell out
Quincy Jones is an amazing producer. Impeccable musical taste. Off the Wall, Thriller and Bad and that's just the stuff with Jackson. Conducted and arranged Sinatra at the Sands with Count Basie. His body of work is legendary. He has the respect of everyone in the music industry.
true, but.
@@brodinieghi822 There is no but.....thats it dude
👏 and 👏
Michael Jackson was a genius and his music will live on longer than a bad comment from a bitter soul. Michael is the name on the cover of the album, remember?! Michael was it!
I agree with you. Micheal was the genius behind it all!!!
I had mad respect for Quincy before i found out the things he said about Michaels skin. It hurt me because i actually liked the guy.
Michael was an outstanding genius as an artist, a wonderfully kind and uniquely talented person. But he was also mentally cluttered. His only real wife, Lisa Marie, loved him but could not cope. There is no point in denying that he had som serious issues. But he only tormented himself. No one else. Quincy was one of those who was extremely close to him. he does not speak disparagingly. He only refers to what he experienced
What did he say? I've seen Quincy talk shit about quite a few people.
Truth hurts
Incredible job putting this together. Thanks for making it happen and sharing it.
You only know it would end in such a way and it was a miracle it began. Hats off to Quincy for seeing something in Michael that no one else did! RIP Michael you lived the king of pop.
Yeah this comment means nothing but it's says all
WTF are you talking about?
I wish Quincy would show the respect that MJ deserves. I truly think that MJ surpassed his mentor and Quincy became bitter and jealous. He could have said so many good things about MJ but he always want to reduce MJ to a dancer and singer and slander him.We all know that he was the most complete artist because he could dance, sing, compose and write song.
MJ is the reason why Quincy is still relevant to this day. Quincy Jones made a fool of himself when he said a few days after MJ's death that MJ didn't have vitiligo , wasn't proud of his origins and used chemical pills then the autopsy confirmed that MJ suffered from vitiligo. He proved on so many occasions that he is a snake like Oprah. Plus, Quincy Jones should also stop talking shit about musicians and singers who earned the respect from the music industry. He seems to have a very big ego which became more important over time.
He really said mj didn't have vitiligo, people can be heartless
@@charitychanda1550 Not exactly heartless,more like clueless
@@starpixelproduction7571 more like disrespectful he should have trusted Michael and what he said he does sound bitter that Michael didn’t go back to him after bad and continue to be a global success
@@Yumiiyumi- Yup
Exactly, every sentence you wrote is exactly my opinion. He talked so much shit about other artists, that his daughters made him to apologize publicly. I think he has a big ego and is arrogant. There are other good producers too. He was just bitter and jealous that Michael left him as a producer of his music. Michael talked never bad about Quincy Jones. What he did is really slander. You don't talk bad about a dead person, you just don't! He got only famous because Michael was his artist.
He said bad things about MJ and he never digested the fact that he didn't choose him for dangerous
Dangerous album...
@@jg3967 yes dangerous! My mistake
I personally cant decide between Bad, Dangerous, History albums. As much as Quincy helped MJ to success, I feel his later albums kept his king of music status in the industry.
The later albums were pop. The QJ albums were music.
@@hirokomlm131makes 0 sense. music is music. quincy is “soul”
"We spent a lot of time laying down" "SLEEPING!" 😂 4:17
Right.... 😅
His body language the way he says " we take his work to another level " gives the impression that Michael was not talented and he made him, he forgot the fact that he worked with many other artists and none of them was close to Michael, So what I want to say is that Michael was Unique by himself and Quincy was a bonus.
But he said exactly what you stated. Every artist needs a hitmaker producer to create that music that defines them. Off the wall gave MJ the fire but thriller was the album that created MJ the king of pop
Michael was a Supernatural and his work with Quincy Jones was Divinely guided.
A great producer + A great artist = Perfection
Michael co produced all his albums… Michael had beat it and Billie Jean 90 percent complete before Quincy touched.. those two being the biggest songs not just or the album but of his career… Michael wrote 7 of the 9 songs on bad. I regard Quincy as the greatest producer ever. Their run together was insane. He’s a huge part of the great success of the albums. Both geniuses
Влияние Куинси на карьеру Майкла Джексона сильно преувеличено. Послушайте хотя бы демо "Billie Jean", записанное Майклом в домашней студии в 1981 году. Оно не особо и отличается от финальной версии. Да, безусловно Куинси помог Майклу, но не думаю, что эта помощь была большей, чем, например, от Брюса Свидена. Куинси продюсировал множество музыкантов, таких как Патти Остин или Джеймс Ингрэм, но никто их них не стал мировой звездой. Поэтому должен быть благодарен Майклу, что он в свое время выбрал его в качестве в продюсера.
Gracias que buena información
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They actually had a falling out before Bad. John Barnes said on the MJ cast that MJ and Quincy had a 3 record deal and MJ thought the captain EO soundtrack was the 3rd and so he started working on Bad on his own. Quincy thought that EO didn’t count and MJ owed him one more record. Obviously there were different perceptions about the business agreement and the work. Barnes said if you listen to the demos MJ made at his home with his team they sound almost identical to the final. Barnes and others said MJ respected Quincy but wanted to try on his own
Thanks for this information that I did not know. Quincy Jones is really petty and someone who wants to receive more credit than he deserves. If he is a great producer with too high an ego, he ultimately only disappoints with his dire criticism of Michael Jackson.
You need to stop making shit up. QUINCY JONES WAS BUSY producing TV shows like FRESH PRINCE BEL AIR WHICH STARED WILL SMITH. QUINCY HIRED WILL SMITH WHICH MADE WILL A BIG STAR. WILL LIKE MICHAEL JACKSON, LATER RUINED HIS CAREER.
@@chuckfrost5624 Michael wasn’t wrong. That type of rap WAS in fact dead. That rap isn’t the same rap of today.
@@cocolightjedi1789 the next year QUINCY JONES BROUGHT ALL THE RAPPERS TOGETHER AND MADE THE GROUND BREAKING BACK ON THE BLOCK. QUINCY WON BOTH PRODUCER AND ALBUM OF THE YEAR, ALL THIS WHILE HE WAS PRODUCING THE HIT TV SHOW FRESH PRINCE BEL AIR. WILL SMITH WAS BROKE. QUINCY JONES HIRE HIM FOR FRESH PRINCE. WILL SMITH BECAME A MILLIONAIRE.
@@chuckfrost5624 So? Who gives an eff? That rap is still outdated. And Michael Jackson makes the type music that stands the test of time. It’s obvious and understandable why MJ said “No”
No one stays on top forever - artists and/or producers. I think about my favorite artists and their runs at the top. Most of the successful/ good artists usually experience only a decade at the top. Only a handful of artists are blessed to have careers that last multiple decades. Michael Jackson (and Quincy) had success at the top for multiple decades.
There would not be a Michael Jackson without Quincy Jones. Michael jackson had the dance and personality but Quincy made the Pop
Be thankful you got to be around him
Quincy Jones was already a legend in the Music Industry. Before Michael got his first hit at Motown/I want you back.
@@darrellmfume3513 that is so true. Michael actually, should thank Quincy
@@Michael-vv7jwand Michael already did he always respected him
Greatest Entertainer of all time
Not even close.
Prince was more talented than Michael Jackson. Just look at both of their Superbowl performances. Prince played electric guitar in the pouring rain and sang LIVE. Michael Jsckson stood still for the first few minutes and then MIMED to his hits.
@@Seanryan2001 Check the Guiness Book and then talk shits about Michael Jackson...idiot! @Jack Brown - another idiot, who needs to do the same research for the records of this genius...
Michael Jackson foreverrrrrrr!!!!!
@Seanryan2001 Michael is wayyy more talented than Prince. Watched the Bad Tour , Michael sung, danced, and entertained which was 100% live which no performed could do including Prince.
Much thanks to Quincy Jones for giving these interviews and this UA-cam channel, "The Detail.", for chronologically putting them together.
I love the Quincy Jones produced albums however i was only born the year prior to Bad. Dangerous introduced me to Michael and i to this day think its criminally underrated. The heavy New Jack Swing vibe and Michaels growth into songs with incredibly deep meaning blew me away and still do. I can listen to the entire album anytime any day and i never have to skip a track.
I agree.When people say THRILLER is their fav M.J. album, I am like " are you serious?" DANGEROUS is waayyyy better.Teddy Riley really doesn't get the recognition he deserves for that one. The way the music and vocals are layered throughout the entire album. Each track is a winner. SHE DRIVES ME WILD,is my favorite.
Teddy riley gave mike life back in 90
Me too! 😁💯🙌 However, the song and the video of MJ I watched for the first time was Thriller 🙉 and I remember I used to be scared of watching it. I love his whole discography until Dangerous 🥳💖🙌
I'm a bit older, born in '84. I like Dangerous but it doesn't have the depth of the QJ projects. And I say this knowing that Quincy says a lot of stupid stuff.
Yes Dangerous is a masterpiece. Next level
I have a lot of respect for Quincy. Him and MJ made history together. They both put in work and made three amazing albums, one being the best selling album in history. Having said that, it pains me to hear Quincy say shady things about MJ, especially when it comes to his personal struggles like vitiligo etc. I'm not saying MJ was perfect. He definitely had his flaws. And being together for so many years I'm sure they had their ups and downs like any other relationship. However, I have come to question Quincy's integrity in recent years as he comes off as quite petty and bitter. For what it's worth I'm glad him and MJ crossed paths and I wish him nothing but the best.
Quincy Jones talks "publicly" bad about dead artists. You have to respect dead people. That is called slander and defamation. In many countries the dead are protected and you can get sued for it. Quincy can only do this, because it's here in America. Here are no defamation and slander laws for dead people. But it really hurts the family and the reputation of good people.
@Day I don't think you understood my comment. There's nothing wrong with having an opinion about MJ. Any opinion. I was just pointing out how some of the comments said by Quincy as of late (emphasize on late) seem kinda petty and shady. Having said that, I am not in the least bothered by that, as an MJ fan, because worse things have been said about him.
@Day whatever it is you're looking for, you won't find it here mate. And that's on period. I'm done responding. Have a blessed day ☺️
QJ was a great musician but not sure, in my opinion, he was a " fantastic " person.
@Day When you hit people with truth it hurts...ROUND OF APPLAUSE 👏 FROM ME FOR EVERYTHING YOU SAID....BECAUSE ITS THE TRUTH.
This guy may know his music, but he has much to learn about humility, kindness, and class. I guess you can't teach that.
And yet he had the ultimate jedi master of all those skills you mentioned, in his studio, with him, for 100000 hours, he could have learned something instead of being an egocentric jelaous jerk. It s so dissapointing to see, that one of the best ever studio wizard is actually a moron.
what did he say that was cocky?
@@bilalamarumosi8282 I don't remember calling him cocky.
He did go 2 his own funeral
@@dominiquejones3805 Most people go to their own funeral :)
Michael was not on my radar until off the wall but it was not until thriller that he became this iconic entertainer. I agree with Quincy and his outlook into the videos and the discography... That propelled the music.
Few people have probably been paced and pushed like Michael and it shows. For all the crappy experiences he had growing up he gave the world some of the greatest music performances ever!
I miss him! Rest In HEAVEN The Greatest Who Ever Did It! The King Of POP!
You’ve only got to look at the numbers. Anything Quincy did that did not have MJs artistry leading it did not come close to selling what the MJ visionary sold
Same can be said for Michael. He didn't do Thriller or Bad numbers after he left Quincy
@@SwagSurf-od3vx that has nothing to do with Quincy. Michael was in his prime Thriller and Bad and he was the forefront of the music video era. By the time dangerous came out, the surprise value of it all being “new” wore off. Michael was a phenomenon during thriller and bad that no one had seen before and the music videos he did had never been seen before. When Michael left Quincy it had become commercial, everyone was doing it and the MJ phenomenon was 10 years old and the shock value was gone. That’s why. Quincy was handed most of the biggest hits on a plate. I’ve heard Michaels home demos, they were practically finished before Quincy touched them or even heard them. Lady in my life is an example of a Quincy track. Billy Jean, beat it, etc … MJ tracks. Quincy was far more commercial, Michael pushed for edgy sounds no one heard before. Even the songs that weren’t his, were shown to Michael by Quincy like man in the mirror etc..: Michael CHOSE those
Songs. Quincy lives off Michaels name and he knows damn well, Michael is was the pioneer, Quincy was there to facilitate that as a tool not as a visionary.
@@chazbayley well damn, don't have a rebuttal for that 😂
@@SwagSurf-od3vx Dangerous outsold Bad(Bad is my favourite album).
@@niallhughes2697 According to most available records, dangerous officially stands at around 32 million. Bad is around 35 million. So no, Dangerous did not outsell Bad, which is the biggest selling R&B album ever made
It's sad and disappointing that Quincy had to start talking smack about Michael after he passed even though they had a solid relationship for years creating three phenomenal albums together. From claiming Michael stole songs to saying he purposely chande his looks when he had a skin disorder. He says on his lawsuit against the Estate that it wasn't about Michael yet from how he's been talking about him, he comes off very petty
True
Creative bitter resentment. Quincy let his own success go to his head only to realise down the line that he was just a tool in Michaels workshop. Michael was the visionary, the pioneer, the legend… Quincy was, well, a producer who, let’s have it right, was handed song after song on a plate. You’ve heard them home demos of Michaels biggest tracks, they were 97% compete before Quincy even heard them.
@@chazbayley exactly!
@@chazbayley Very true, I think Quincy has a big ego and thought he is the only producer. After each tour or performance Michael quit all of his coworkers and hired for his next performance new back-up dancers and artists. Sometimes he hired the same person, but almost everybody was cancelled. He did an audition and a new casting of artists, which made him really creative and that way he was able to shape every musical work with a new style and spirit.
@@hannaz4617 Michael often worked with the same people and dancers for 20 years most of them stayed. He was loyal and didn’t change much actually and musically he was the same, very loyal
Simplemente el alumno superó con creces al maestro.
Por otro lado ,todo el mundo ha querido aprovecharse de él.incluido Quincy Jones.
Único Michael Jackson!!!!
Quincy Jones is a full-on genius! The best, surely ! Seriously, I don’t know what words to use!
And Michael Jackson was a genius, too!
And Off the Wall was Off the Scale!
Wow thank you for that !!! You keep him alive. Please never stop!!! People from all generations need to see those videos 🔥🔥🔥🔥
it's good to see how this thing came together. Good work Quincy Jones. Rest in Peace and power brother Michael Jackson.
Quincy is the maestro. A good producer can make or break a record. Quincy was next level. He picked songs and musicians, and created the sound.
This was the era of great talents together. Great people!❤
It helps to have two GENUISES!!!! Both are music legends(Quincy on the production end and Michael on ALL ends). Love them both. Michael is and will always be my favorite entertainer!…the GREATEST of all time🙌🏾🙌🏾❤️👏🏽
Why are people constantly seeing this relationship as a contest? They are both very talented people, and both very different kinds of artists that helped each other in ways they couldn’t have helped themselves in. They were the perfect partners in producing, arranging, developing, and creating some of the best music ever played. Michael Jackson is fantastic, and Quincy Jones is fantastic. Let’s just leave it at that, and respect them both for their different talents.
The problem is not that they ask these questions - the issue is that Quincy, bitter about Michael ceasing to use his services in the late 80's, makes false accusations about MJ stealing songs from other artists etc. This makes for interesting viewing, so the myth feeds itself as interviewers will keep asking him to tell us more about it. Really it would be better if QJ just knocked that ancient chip off his shoulder and moved on. if he did that people wouldn't keep asking about it.
This is an OUTSTANDING post. The multiple clips cut to keep a thread going was professional quality. Impressive! Also, Q is a musical beast.
Rod Temperton should be mentioned when it comes to Michael's huge solo hits.
Omitted for some reason.?? Its all about the songs, and Rod wrote the big ones. 👍
I felt the same, off the wall doesn't happen without Rod
@@stringer-ik1pc I wouldn't say he "wrote" the big ones but, it was close compared to what MJ wrote for himself.
Boogie nights! 😊
Rod Temperton (RIP) was a fantastic songwriter. So many hits. He definitely deserves more credit for his work on Off The Wall. Speaking of credit, apparently, musician, Greg Phillanganes wrote the break for Don't Stop Til You Get Enough. Michael told Greg he would give him a writing credit for his work, then changed his mind because someone (QJ??) told Mike that Greg's contribution was just arranging and should not be considered writing; so writing credit and no royalties. He lost out on a lot of money because of it. Sucky on MJ's part. The break is the best part for the song, IMO.
Thanks for very interesting video, great job as always!
Like Quincy Jones said, they were put together through divine intervention. Their work from the 80s will never die and still influences artists today. Epic albums that defined that decade, came from that marriage of the minds. Nobody can argue that down.
😂😂😂Rod Temperton wrote the songs that broke him. Not Jackson.
To write and produce 9 songs, 7 Top 10's, 5 Top 5's and Two #1's in only 8 weeks is amazing!
And Q had f all to do with it.
Love these put together stories…long live Quincy Jones & SLEEP IN PARADISE to MICHAEL JACKSON ♥️
The best documentary on Quincy - Michael out there. Thanks detail! Also, I'm not a fan of Quincy but I loved how he always remained so courtious about Michael and their music together is mind blowing. I respect him majorly as a musician.
Best times ever!! Just growing up, hearing that great music was one of a kind. I was born in 1980, I got here just in time, between this, cartoons, movies ect., MAN PLEASE, THAT WAS GREAT!!
YES! 💯
So blessed 😭😭😭
MICHAEL JACKSON IS THE GREATEST EVER!!!!!!!!
Michael and Quincy..pure fate...pure magic
Quincy Jones was appointed to be a “gatekeeper” of the music industry many years ago. He is an exceptionally talented musical genius. I do believe that at some point Michael began to realize what and who Quincy was and started to back away from him. There will never be anyone as huge, talented, powerful, and influential as Michael Jackson ever in the music industry. Q knows it… and felt some type of way that Michael no longer wanted him to be a part of it.
its not the gate he was keeping it was the money he was making from the records he was selling
Quincy is talented! His work is an American Treasure and Michael and him were an unbeatable duo. Unfortunately with all this talent he can be pretty petty, a normal aspect for someone of excellence. He has said some really mean things about Michael but I cannot deny the magic that he creates
I never remember him talking mad about Michael lol!
@@raycarter8070 he made a claim that Billie Jean was stolen, talked bad on his surgeries and skin condition and not just Michael but on a lot of people he work with. He’s just a petty man
@@unbreakabletez799 I thought his rants a few years ago were pretty weird lol.
@@raycarter8070 it was, he’s old and old people tend to just go on rants for whatever reason. Guess to say what they feel before they go
Quincy and MJ were both petty..that was the issue.
The executives at Sony/Epic Records didn't want Michael Jackson to work with Q anymore because the Bad Album didn't sell as well as Thriller. Q saw the market changing because Hip Hop was coming fast.
Fun fact - Quincy Jones actually produced "It's My Party" by Leslie Gore in 1963.
9 years later, he produced the "Sanford and Son" theme song.
This was before his collaborations with Michael Jackson, as a solo artist.
I've watched this 6 times. The Detail is truly amazing.
Wow thank you! Glad you enjoyed this that much ✨
Well if you enjoy this so much, watch THE AMERICAN DREAM. Warning, it's around 6 hours long but worth it.
for us Mj did nothing wrong for them the only thing we know if there is no talent there is no money Mj is a very talented man a genius that you cannot find to anyone else ever he is magical and unique his voice hjs dance is so amazing forever king of pop Mj
Wow hats off to the editor of this video you made this feel like a clear clean chronological dialogue!
Thank you!
This channel is amazing!
Loved him then and love him now there will never be anyone else like him.
This channel and it's topics are absolute gold!
Spitting facts. Its an mj fans dream. So well researched and despite the fact its an mj fan channel its not ridiculously sycophantic to mike.
Quincy was the producer of Michaels only legendary albums he did something right
Someone explain to me why he was rubbing Mike's leg while talking about how they laid down together. I'm a huge fan of Q but ?????
ONE AND ONLY KING MJ
Quincy is awesome no doubt. But make no mistake about it Michael Jackson made himself the biggest star with his destined virtuoso talent
Poor angel😢 thank you and Quincy for giving us those timeless reasons to keep going.
Rip
Quincy Goosebumps. No Panel. Legend!
Bad ended up selling 34 millions albums definitely wasnt a flop
Michael jackson and freddie mercury will never be equalled EVER! ♥️
Michael would not have gone as far without Quincy Jones. It’s too bad he didn’t listen to Quincy more often. Quincy likely implored him to stop surgically altering his face. He was beautiful the way he was.
Quincy,jones is a visionary genius! Off the wall...epic!