How And Why Can A Military Discharge Be Upgraded
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2021
- A few folks have contacted me about less than fully honorable military discharges. This video provides information on the various types of discharge, the grounds to cite if an upgrade is sought, and a brief description of the upgrade process and consequences of a less than fully honorable discharge.
Military is voluntary remember . You shouldnt keep vets from getting jobs based on discharge .first it's discrimination second at least they served. Most people don't even do that.
Depends what they were booted for. I don’t want a sex offender at my job site. I’m prior infantry and now a foreman for concrete laying firm
@@JsCharizard1True, but a general UHC or OTH for physical, mental, or hardship. Shouldn’t have discriminatory repercussions in regular employment. In my humble opinion.
The employer will never know if you don’t tell them
PLEASE HELP. I joined the Marine corps as a recruit about 8 years ago due being young and unprepared I couldn't handle the basic training and was not ready physically or mentally. I got out seeing a psychologist that gave me a reenlistment code that would allow me to get into a branch later down the road. 3 years later I joined the Air Force as of recruit and had to jump through hoops and get waivers for my previous service discharge. I made it to week six of basic training and was pulled out of basic training, and was given the reenlistment code JDA- fraudulent enlistment as an uncharacterized discharge. They said it was because I didn't tell them I seen a psychologist to get out of the Marine corps which they had all of my previous paperwork so there was no way I could have lied to them. I really want to get back into the military as I'm older now and more experienced. Is this possible? if so how do I do it. I'm willing to do anything I need as I loved the Air Force but they wouldn't let me stay. Thank you for any help you can offer.
Great information sir!. I heard dea agents do a lot of paperwork one of the reasons I wanted to do us marshals don’t really like paperwork. I wish i did a pen is a great tool under the hand of someone like you great video once again!
As someone who knows currently serving members, this is extremely useful and interesting
Thank you so much for your knowledge Sir
Thank you Very much for this info. Semper Fi.
I recently found clinical documentation on the Toxic effects of The Camp Lejeune water issue. Stating that the chemicals in the water TCE and PCE caused neurobehavioral issues among the soldiers that caused them to get discharged with bad paper. Which makes me question the mindset of the decision making back then in the 70's by NCO's and Officers since they also drank the same water and ate the food prepared with the water from the mess halls. Everybody stationed on base was affected by the toxicity.
Here is part of the clinical study done on the toxins from Camp Lejeune:
Neurobehavioral effects are conditions that have to do with the way the brain communicates with the nervous system, according to the National Institutes of Health. These effects can manifest as behavioral, emotional, physical or learning problems. Brain injury, illness or exposure to toxins - such as the chemicals in contaminated water from Camp Lejeune - can cause neurobehavioral effects. The symptoms of neurobehavioral effects depend on how much damage the brain has sustained. People with neurobehavioral effects typically report experiencing changes in mood, personality, attention and memory. Other neurological effects manifest as motor dysfunction, including coordination or balance problems.
Certain chemicals can seriously affect the part of the brain that controls motor function and cause tremors, ticks and even Parkinson’s disease.
Symptoms of neurological effects include:
Anxiety
Changes in mood or personality
Confusion
Depression
Dizziness
Fatigue
Headaches
Insomnia
Involuntary muscle movements (dystonia or dyskinesia)
Irritability
Learning disorders
Memory problems
Motor problems (balance, coordination, etc.)
Parkinson’s disease
Poor concentration
Tension
Tremors
Neurobehavioral effects from exposure to toxic chemicals may last anywhere from a few minutes to several years. Mild effects from low levels of chemicals and short exposures may be reversible, but severe damage from long-term chronic exposure to high levels of chemicals may be permanent.
I was discharged with Bad Paper on numerous charges of disrespect, not following orders, not standing at attention, not picking up cigarette butts, etc. was sent for a psych eval and was diagnosed back in May 1974 with Mood Depression Psychosis, yet was kicked out for the Good of the service UD discharge, and labeled a recidivist. All because I was under the toxic influence of the water. Also the NCO's and Officers making decisions while under the same influence. Opening up a big can of worms now 48 years later. Back then the Doctors did not know nothing about the toxicity causing all the problems with Marines. i know that in my company at least 30-40 Marines were kicked out the same way, behavioral issues. This is all readily available information on the internet now. You should make a video on this issue to help us all out.
This is good info. The military however, has change a lot throughout the years. I went to the Corps back in '98, and I saw a guy getting kicked out because he had sex with a married woman. At this point was when I realized that the Corps was not joking when we were told/instructed about the penalties under the Uniform Code of Military Justice ( UCMJ) during boot camp. I hear stories that back in the 80's Marines would show up drunk after lunch and there was no big deal.
They didnt kick anyone out in the 1970s. Unless you deserted or did something really bad, I knew a guy who beat up the Staff Sergeant, did 6 months in the brig and was back in the unit.
@@federallawenforcementcaree9900 Now days that doesn't fly. I saw people getting kicked out for falling asleep during fire watch.
So I have, well alot of questions. But to sum it up. I think I'm in a very rare group of people. I was in the national guard for 5 years. Almost done with my initial contract. Then I was no longer in the guard. I never signed a single piece of paper. And I don't even know what kind of discharge I have.
What if an injury occurred as a result from a direct order by you're drill sargents or command and they fail to acknowledge it when you reported it to them?
I have a Character of Service of Honorable and a RE Code 2B from the Air Force. I'm trying to reenlist into the Army, but they're saying the RE is unwaiverable. Yet, many people I've spoken to say it is waiverable. Would it be worth pursuing a RE Code upgrade?
Injured in Boot Camp , testicle hernia and Col. Urologist just went on 2 WEEK VACATION...HE COMES BACK AND SAYS I HAD THE INJURY PRIOR TO ENLISTMENT !!! AHHHH THE MILITARY DOESN'T TAKE MEN WITH BLOWN BALLS !!!!
General under honorable is it equitable zero-tolerance came into effect While others got second chances and perhaps even later years where zero-tolerance was it not in effect anymore thank you
I served 17 months in the USMC at Camp Pendleton I was honorably discharged in 1979 thank God. I was discharged for a medical condition but my DD214 does state the reason for discharge, could I have been medically discharged and honorable.
I just made it simple and made sure that during my tenure in the military that I showed up on time every day and did my job. If you can do those two things you'll get an honorable
It sounds like you were a little "older" when you enlisted?
@@jamesmerone I was 17 when I joined.
That's a very narrow minded statement. Here's your pat on the head.
That only applies to white males. If your a female and you won't fu*k your sergeant and you report him, you can get kicked out. Happens all the time. If you walk in on your commander snorting cocaine, you can get kicked out.
That right place, right time, right uniform thing is a bunch of BS.
@@fbicontacted7690 Bullcrap! As a female vet I know how females have been treated. But to say only a white male is garbage, especially and thankfully the last 40 years racism isn’t tolerated! Can’t pull that one out!
Not true dude...I was a navy fmf corpsman in the reserves and received a general under honorable due to failure to get a PHA... Physical Health Assessment... It's a 15 question health sheet..blood pressure and heart rate and blood draw to check for HIV...THATS IT... Supposed to be done every 6 months...mine was lost...wasn't told about it because I drilled with marines until I got a letter on August 22, dated August 2nd saying I was being administratively separated if I didn't get my PHA by the 18th and nlt (no later than) the 19th of August.. they were gonna let me come do it NLT my next drill weekend and when I went said I could do it but i was going to be discharged anyway for failing a drug test for amphetamine...which I was prescribed Adderall!!!! which WAS in my medical record at one point..so my options were do the PHA and take a dishonorable discharge...or not do it..and take a general under honorable...the reserve side especially for the FMF side of the navy that frills with Marines...is fucking shameful..
Fraudulent enlistment listened to my recruiter.
1979. I told him about the arrest record before entering the Army. He Didn't do a background check.
Now recruiters have to do it.
Will the fact that they do it now help me with ARBA?
If you get a dishonorable discharge, McDonald's won't even hire you.
During this pandemic?? TFOH, everybody is hiring…and paying well.
f that I got a city job even with
all that negative stuff
😢
ICE is hiring for deportation Officer and will close tomorrow hurry up and get your application in! I already sent mines
I didnt know they were hiring EROs.
If you have an RE-4 on your DD214...you will never be able to enlist.my nephew went to a review board with a lawyer and still failed to upgrade enlistment.
@Joshua Layug negative, no one can re -enlist anymore under any circumstances with an RE-4
@Joshua Layug yes
I tell you what, when you get back in...show me proof you got in the Army with an re-4 code...I am having a hard time believing you will get to join the military especially with an Re-4 .that is permanent. It doesn't go away.
@Joshua Layug Sorry friend,I don't really think you will be able to join the Army..you're just wasting your time..you should move on.trust me I know what I am talking about.
@Joshua Layug I’ve seen it Done Before it is possible going from the marines to army reservist or national guard if the army views the re 4 code and discharge Differently each branch has different regs. It depends if the army would have issued an re4 for the same offense you need to get a wavier at Meps to join if the re code gets upgraded to a 3 it’s easier.
I was in the army for 3.25 years. 1.5 years in my son died. The army docs put me on a bunch of meds which literally almost killed me. I ended up in the hospital in a coma. I ended up staying in but I started drinking and missed Monday formation. I got an oth with other than honerable conditions. This was 2003. does this sound like a good reason?
I was giving a bad conduct discharge and I left and went AWOL within four months after or before I don't know if maybe three months after boot camp and I was given the BCD which is horrible I was actually separated in 2003 but I was already out by 2001 I was wondering if it's possible for me to get that red OTH or a general. I've led a crime-free life and I haven't had the greatest of job records but all-in-all I help people in boot camp did help me be the best person I could be. But I got article 84 and maybe an article 85 I'm not sure what it says on my DD-214 but still I was wondering if I could get just an upgrade so it's more of an honor thing for me I was too young my wife left me at the time I went AWOL and it was ignorant because she was taking my kids I didn't realize that Jag could've help me. I was nineteen twenty years old and if you're know if you know now what you knew when you were young like that you know that you weren't a man at 18 you don't really become a man until you're twenty-five 30 years old when you really realize what life is about. Some people grow and learn about life faster than others. In my case I went through boot camp with flying colors I just couldn't handle my family leaving. So I went AWOL to try to save my marriage. And it didn't work so when I went back I really had nothing in it took me awhile to go back looking back now I wish I'd stayed in for my whole life. Because i missed everything about it almost immediately after I was discharged. Can i be helped?
I had something similar happen to me and I feel the same way you do. Have you had any luck?
I got discharged General under honorable…. They messed me up gotta RE-4.
What did you get discharged for?
@@Coldbeast22 I’ve was falsely accused. I got evidence and they did not allowed me to take it to court martial instead they decided to kick me out (Administrative) allegedly Assault… i passed by someone and I touch his side…. Got video camera from the cctv but they did not care…. Very F… up
Can I pick up a law enforcement job whether city or federal with a general under honorable with 10 years of service? Failed a UA towards end of my service but served multiple contracts with honorable to include good conduct medals on each honorable contract.
Yea, you can.
I have oth and 100% p and t
My husband got kicked out 3 months before his contracted ended with a general uoc. He popped hot once and did everything he could to get back in his units good graces. He’s pretty much screwed unless we get his discharge upgraded ;/
How’s everything going?
Only way he can get an upgrade is with mental issue
sir i am honorably discharged with a non re enlistment clause can i upgrade it and how? my commander believed in me and i failed due to drinking and bar brawls which lead to a honorable but non reenlistment dischage.
unlike others i have a full benefit discharge i dont want that i want back in.
My son just finished college, which agency is hiring the most and easier to get into?
Right now the Secret Service is the easiest and is hiring the most. Also the Capitol Police and Border Patrol. The DEA is also hiring, but not as many. I would try with everyone who is hiring, which is what I did almost 40 years ago.
can Entry level separation characterized as 'uncharacterized be upgraded'?
No,ELS...with an RE-4...no chance.my nephew was discharged with that.he tried to get back in...you have no shot ever at military service.
Hello, Do you know of any good lawyers that can help me upgrade my Bad conduct w/ OTH discharge..
Where are you located generally?
you're wasting your time
Good afternoon, I have a RE-4. May I contact you personally. I Righting my wrong and want to enlist in the Army as a former Marine!
Me too, I’m on the same boat bro same service as well
@@jlawrence057 you gotta get in contact with the dav and they will give you the upgrade form and amount as many letters of recommendations from as many people you know
@@arturotaylor5539 you have to get what because I have the same re-4 code
A discharge upgrade form
Were you able to work anything out?
Is a ELS a bad discharge when applying for law enforcement?
I dont think so. I think it would depend on why the discharge was given. Some cannot be avoided.
@@federallawenforcementcaree9900 enlisted in the national guard, But didn’t ship out to basic training. I had to stay to take care of my father
How can I get in contact with you ?
flecfuture@gmail.com
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I got an other than honorable discharge early in my military career. I’m wondering if I can change my OTH to honorable so I can reenlist in the infantry. Please someone let me know if this is even possible.
The most that can happen is one up, but never two.
Nothing higher than Honorable?