DDR4 3600mhz to 4400mhz Beginner Overclocking Guide
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- Опубліковано 12 лип 2021
- A basic guide and walk through how I take some 3600mhz memory all the way up to 4400mhz, how to benchmark, what to look for and the timings I ended up using at different levels.
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Thank you Tiny Tom Logan, you are a hero for the ages!
You are a wealth of information, knowledge and experience Tom. Thanks for sharing it 🙂
Thanks for this, I got my 3600 17-21-21-39 RAM running at 3800 18-21-21-39 and FCLK at 1900MHz 1:1 with UCLK at 1.4V and Memory Controller SOC voltage at +50mv
You seem like a nice dude my guy!. I just bought a couple of 4600mhz sticks to go with a b550 gaming pro plus and I should of checked the compatibity but I just broke up with my lady and went on a bit of a rampage while drunk last night. So I have the sticks and now getting into ram overclocking...New area for me. I've done GPU and CPU overclocking before.
Your tutorial is helping me understand it all before executing my overclock. Wish me luck my guy! :).
Thanks to your video I got my 3200mhz 64GB kit running @ 4000
Thank you mate. The benchmarks are really insightful!!!
Oh so have missed this awesome 😎👍
Great video!!!
This is great! Future idea, vid on memory timing optimization. That confuses me to no end tiny sir.
Thanks for oc guide.
Very valuable info. I appreciate your time, effort and approach. Helped me learn and understand memory behavior loads more (pun intended). Thank you!
I downstepped my 2x16GB mushkin ddr4 with stock 4GHz after a first OC test with 4.26 GHz down to 3.733 and CL timings from 18 22 22 42 down to 16 19 19 36 with 1.45 V and I got the best TimeSpy benchmark result in 4K so far. Getting these sticks overclocked to 4.26 GHz was the reason why I had stuttering in games every 20 seconds. GPU is a 3080 and CPU is a i7 10700KF @ 5GHz.
Because ur memory wasnt stable , second, higher memory pushes more stress on uncore and cpu, so u need more vccsa and io and vcore
So exciting!!
thanks from America
Love this :D Reminded me of the old days where you were doing cool stuff with dry ice (pun intended) :D
Try to show what will happen if the overclock failed if possible next time. It would help beginner to be more confident in trying oc.
Change ram to default slots, read manual which one are, i fixed it like that.
It doesn’t turn on or black video screen, has to reset bios then
It's not always the same.
Well if it's rise and it'll reset itself three times and if it goes through it does if it doesn't get out of power off
@@alanoliveira8018 gotta clear your motherboard cmos if oc doesn’t boot
Thank you!
you sure that's no DJR? CJR is generally hard to clock above 4266.
Yay, Buildzoid is here!!!
I wouldn't doubt it, CJR seems to go higher on RKL. I tested an older Patriot RGB 3600 CL17 kit that I'd confirmed to be CJR by removing the heat spreader. On the Z590 ACE, loading the 4400C19 preset booted into Windows without having to tweak anything.
stay in your lane bro...
@@joediditagain yeah funny how he made no mention of gear1/2, nor did he overclock the cpu first. What person is gonna leave the cpu at stock then overclock their ram to the fullest extent..definately not a real world example. Guarantee he wouldn't have got this good of results had he oc the cpu and cache first like 99% of the world does
@@sabishiihito booting into windows doesn’t make it stable…
Why the fuck do people even down vote these kinda videos? Been watching your stuff since 2011 channel is Underrated
Some do because they disagree with the advice. For example Prime 95 isn't good for testing and can cause issues.
Very Nice Thx
thanks very much .. i can push my Team TForce RGB ddr 4 3600mhz to 4000mhz with xmp setup without upping the voltage.. going to give a shot on 4400mhz
can you help me with that? tell me settings please? i have the ram sticks and looking to oc to 4000mhz
Please Sir, can I have some more?
Thank you - I’ve been looking for this kind of help and guide and can’t wait for you to delve deeper. Following on from this, can you recommend a good educational resource to learn what the different BIOS settings do? I have tried Goggling but not really found anything. I’m new to the X86 platform having spent years & years with Macs and I really want to learn how to tune “under the hood” Being new, it’s all a little daunting and confusing and not something you really do with Mac’s, except for some System folder tweaks. 🙏🏼👍🏼
Good video. My RAM is currently running at 3733 @ 1.5v with timings of 14-15-13-30-43-280 1T FCLK=1867
Holy ! 1.5v. Cooling by air ? Which RAM exactly ? Same as tested in the video ?
@@TechTalkTobi Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 32GB (4 x 8GB) 4400MHz. It's Samsung B-die. They have a 140mm fan blowing on them so heat is not an issue.
@@OlettaLiano Well done ! :) Intel System or AMD ? Samsung B-Die RAM getting really expensive this days. I think i will keep my G.Skill Trident-Z Neo RGB 3600 MHz RAM. "Just" Hynix, but hey ;) anyway. Maybe i will keep a better focus on DIEs by DDR5 ? Maybe ;) Thx for your info !
@@TechTalkTobi Water cooled AMD Ryzen 9 3900X. The RAM I have is the cheapest Samsung B-die I've found. $130 for 16GB.I just bought 32GB for Crucial Ballistix 3600 CL 16. Not sure what the IC is, but I'm hoping they will OC to 3800 or higher.
@@OlettaLiano hey cool. Also on AMD side with my Ryzen 7 3700x ;) but everything just air cooled. (NH-U12S) I heard about that new Leakshield. Damn ! Now i have no excuse any more to use no watercooling xD
What bout changing the TRas and TRFC you didn't talk about those , how should you change those ? And what about sub timings
pc instantly black screens just doing the first step. changing from 3600-3800Mhz, should i try change voltage?
I cannot get my teamgroup 3600mhz to go above 3200mhz on a new build in a Asus b550m with a ryzen 7 5700g. Got the cpu/apu to OC and stable.. but the RAM is giving me a headache.
Is the memtest86 also right tool to test memory while oc?
I'm running a Ryzen 5900x with a H115 pro, on a x570 Asus Crossfire viii WiFi.
I have 4x TeamGroup DDR 4 3600mhz Samsung B-die, all from the same matched 4 kit cas 16.
Is it possible to overclock them, or just leave them be?
With ryzen you're best at a 1:1 ratio with the infinity fabric so I tend to run mine at 3733 with ininity fabric at half that.
I brought Corsair Dominator Platnum rgb ram 32 gigs 3200mt/s how fast can I get it to run sustainably?
I got a question. I have a msi b550 gaming plus motherboard and when I overclock the corsair ddr4 3600 higher that that I get a boot failure.
Dur
Will this guide work with 4 sticks? I have 2 sets of ddr4 rated at 4000 mhz. Either set will get me 4000mhz via XMP 3 selection. When i try to use all 4 sticks, it crashes the bios which defaults to 2600 mhz. The best i get with all four sticks is 3600 mhz. 'I'm' hoping your tweaks will take me to at least 3800 mhz.
4 sticks is twice as hard on the memory controller on the cpu.
my XMP profile only shows 3200 and all the timings and stuff so i go to manual and set my ram but im scared cause i dont know any values i need to give ram running at 3600Mhz!
I cant get my Patriot Steele DDR4 4400mhz (4x8gb) to run at 4400 on my Aorus Elite X570/5800X
This is showing gear 2. I went for 3466 CL12 Gear 1 instead of 4000 CL16 Gear 2 because the memory controller in gear 1 is 1733MHz instead of 1000MHz. At gear 2 you would have to get your ddr4 to 6933MHz to get the same speed for your memory controller and that just isn’t going to happen. Plus the lower latency makes up for some of the loss in memory bandwidth. You can use this same technique with AMD Ryzen processors. The memory controller speed matters.
I encourage anyone willing to tinker to start from base timings not xmp. Using xmp gives you a high frequency baseline but its generally easier to tweak one thing at a time after achieving tight timings. Then from there boosting the frequency and altering the timings and voltages post to get higher frequencies. Thats what I like to do to streamline the process. But, thats just my opinion, dont take it for gospel.
My pc has no docp profile. I can only select manual, why is that?
I currently got a ryzen 5500 running at 4.7ghz and the ram is at 4400mhz cl18
I just want to overclock my old ram a little bit but I don't know where to start. This video says to just change the clock speed and adjust from there but people from pcpartpicker say to use a calculator tool instead. It is all so confusing.
Did the 1 percent lows improve ? Average fps is gpu bound 99 percent of the time
the lows greatly improve if you push overall memory latency lower..for 10900k with a memory latency of 36ns can knock off an 12900k
I have corsair rgb vengeance 3200 16gbx4 can i oc it
Can you try to change tfaw and trrd-S trrd-L
Crucial balistix 3600cl16 eazy to oc on b560 aorus to 4400 cl19
Can someone help me? I have the corsair vengeance rgb pro 3600mhz I turn on the default XMP to 3600.. in the task manager appears ''64gb 3600mhz'' but in cpu ID appears only 1600 in DRAM frequency.. is this normal? if not can someone help me? thanks for the video
use the tool cpuz , it must show 1800 (3600).
Try cl14 3600mhz 4x8gb not dual rank if the IMC can handle it them tighten down the timings.
hi, how to change the Rank mode from Single to Dual ?
Buy all new RAM that has chips on both sides of the stick. The only difference between Single and Dual rank is that single rank have memory chips on only one side of the DIMM while dual rank have memory chips on both sides of the DIMM.
Does it matter if you use 4 cards to get 32 or if i should use 2 cards to get 32? Does it matter?
It does matter . Check topology from mainboard. Daisy chain and so on. Second , check motherboards memory qvl and see which combination of ram has highest speeds
I went to 3600 to 3800 without a hassle but I am getting some freezes . Not sure what I should be changing next I have the same timings as you. mine are dominators
Run memtest and check for errors
Bump ram voltage to 1.45 and if problem persist, bump vccio voltage
freezing often comes from too low trfc and too long trefi cycles
Try it for Samsung b-die cl14 3600mhz 4x8gb on a Ryzen 9 5900x.
very late comment but setting twr to 12 trrd and trrds to 4 tfaw 16 tcwl 12 and most kits at 3600mhz that do 630 trfc you can set it to 590 on all of them, if you are lucky even 495 on some micron chips and 280 on samsumg b die, that will get you around 7% more performance in read / writte and copy bandwidth
I have been trying like crazy to get a working OC on my RAM. Nothing I have changed has work, just leads to a CMOS reset every time. Using 2x16GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro @ 3600mhz on a MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge WiFi and Ryzen 7 5800X.
same, literally nothing works with that RAM for me as well. Kinda just gave up
My 12700K states, it supports up to 3200 DDR4; I could OC DDR4 above the 3200?
You can try but you will get the BSOD. I tried it and had to do a cmos reset. So I left it at 3200 under XMP settings.
My sticks xmp works but anything over doesn't boot...
Must have lost the silicone lottery with my sticks because I cant even get my 3000mhz rated to a stable 3200 mhz
stopped at 10:33, you explain nothing.
why was casL ok at 18? how do you know to go from latency to delay? what are the purposes of each setting that is being changed? will raising the delay negate the higher clock speeds by increasing ns or maybe produce the same result of 3600 at 19?
doesnt feel like a beginner tutorial. last question how many people fucked up thier system or even achieved the same level of performance as docp 1 while unnecessarily stressing thier ram and wasting some power and time?
It says overclocking fail and I don't know if it is a set up that I'm missing or thr motherboard is not enough
You need to set up the volts and timings better
Thank you brother I will try that and the other thing is that I don't if I can do overclock with all 4 ram slots full like I have right now or if for this to work it needs to be only 2 memory rams used?
Do 3600mhz dominators overclock this well?
What's the best DOM kit for Z590?
They might, they might not. It's all silicone lottery
@@williaamlarsson I realize that, I'm just trying to find out If dominators overclock, or overclock at all since their stock timings suck and are so expensive.
I would hate to upgrade to a kit that is worse than what I'm currently using. Your reply doesn't help at all
@@Metalhead-4life Do research on what RAM chips are on the PCB. If it's not Samsung B-die stay away.
@@JayzBeerz yeah I'm gonna sell my bdie 4x8gb 3600mhz trident z rgb kit for something better, I just have a hard time believing TL was able to get a 3600mhz kit to 4400mhz on ANY cpu/motherboard
Hynix Cjr and Djr doing a great job. B-die is the top notch with pretty low trfcs
I'll put a link in the caption....🙄...no link....
Well, Overclockers uk are listing 3070s for £900+. Another CCL situation brewing it seems.
They are and always been overpriced, I don't know what their deal is. Shipping is also ALWAYS applied no matter how much you spend..
My 3600 cl16 will boot with 3666 with infinity fabric at 1833. But as soon as I got one step higher with 3733 and 1866 it won't boot at all.
Did you ever get this fixed? You'll have to reset your bios.
@@b.w.6919 so if your raM is 3600mhz how can you get 4000mhz without buying a new ram that supports 4000mhz
i seen my mobo says 5400mhz oc is the maximum for mine.
@@officialyashvirgaming Ehhhhhh. There's videos out there that show you how to really dial in your RAM speeds, but it's not something you can just hit a button once and get it to work for everything. I don't know if you can go beyond what the XMP speed offers, since that's what the RAM is literally designed for. Trying to push RAM up passed it's rated speeds isn't recommended since it can lead to damages.
This is for Intel, please make for Amd
I’m so confused. This whole time I thought the BIoS screen depended on what cpu you had… this looks just like the Ryzen 7 3700x bios and I was following it until I went back to beginning and read Intel on the main page lol I’m. I’m blind
bios is based on motherboard it has nothing to do with cpu
Thank you so much for this, just what I needed! What is a healthy temperature for ram sticks? Or rather, what temperature would you not exceed for 24/7?
My sticks are running 39°C idle and around 54°C under heavy load (30+ mins). They are 3200 stock, clocked to 3800 but I did not yet bother with timings so I am sure I can get it over 4GHz. Thanks!
Tm5 anta77 or 1usmusv3 6 hours is usually good. 3200 cl14-14-14-14-34 @1.35V 4 dimms, to 3800 cl16-10-15-14-30 @1.5V with a fan blowing towards the ram. I get around 33-35 idle and 47 max after hours of stress testing.
Hmm, so for gaming almost no gain?
Why should i bother then??? 🤔🤔
you should test it with a game like warzone who is based a LOT on ram ! it's like +50 fps with good OC on ram, would be very interesting.
I'm gonna upgrade ram from a cheap 2666 16gb to a 32gb 3600 kit, I'll update you on warzone fps upgrade when i try it
@@pablojp3498 you should get a little improvement, but unlike warzone it's not changing much in tarkov. for exemple, 8700k 1080 16gb 2666mhz i have 75 fps.
With 12900k + 3070ti, and 3600 cl16 bdie OC i have 100. Ridiculous lol
@@pablojp3498 what happend
@system abc i only tried it in warzone 1 but there was a 10-15 fps improvement and less framedrops
@@pablojp3498 okay thats heavy, thanks
i dont have the DRAM ras# to cas# delay. im using ddr4 Gskill Trident Royal Z 64gb (x4 16gb) cl16-19-19-39. I enable d.o.c.p, using a 5900x asus x570 crosshair hero Viii. i set it to 3800 and 4000mhz and it just goes to safe mode due to instability.
Can anyone help me on this? thank you
Same RAM(32gb) and processor with Aorus pro x570 was gonna give it a try. You find a solution?
@@beastmode3776 Yeah, better to have 2 sticks than 4 lol. i did a heaven benchmark to see my score. 32gb at 3600mhz gave me slightly higher score and fps than 4 sticks at 64 and 2 sticks o.c to 4000mhz. O.c 2 sticks is fine since its easier on the memory controller i assume, so that was my solution to switch to 2 sticks and not 4
@@jared58974 good 👍
Can you please tell me what is RAM memory brand and model and speed in Mhz? I need to know this at once.
Him: goes up to 400ghz like it's nothing
Me: instant BSOD from adding 100ghz
Anybody with experience with 2dpc configuration ? The memory is 128G at 3200, working at 3200, DIMM AX4U320032G16A-SBKD35
I have vengeance pro sl cl18 32gb 18-22-22-42 1.35v xmp
I've changed frequency to 4200mhz
I can only get my timings down to 17-22-16-41... does that even sound right? I'm new to overclocking and have been tryint to follow a few videos and forums, I had set my dram voltage to 1.5 as head room to later work it down, which is what I'm doing now lowering my VCCIO AND VCCSA volts down from 1.35.
Video watched said to set these 3 volts high untill you find best frequency then work on timings test stability then work on lowring volts
Any luck ? I have mine running at 3933mhz without touching the timings. it crashes when playing games at 4000mhz. so I’m trying to get it stable at 4000mhz. So I know I would have to adjust the voltage & timings for sure to get it to work
Try 4000mhz if you can & let me know what timings you get. I’m gonna copy your settings to see if it works
@@silfrido1768 I gave up after a while bro think I had something just under 4000 but will blue screen after while.
Corsair ram ain't good for over clocking much only xmp really.
@@calvin54 I felt that bro, my kit doesn’t go pass 3933 1.4v with xmp enabled and everything else on auto lol.
I tried 4K mhz with flck at 2k but it doesn’t save the setting in the bios anymore after it booted the first time with those settings lol.
Noice
Hynix C Dies at the start, but then you say Samsung B Dies in the conclusion?
Yeah I'm a doof. Well done for watching it all then
@@OC3D So which are they? :)
Hynix 😊
@@Fishbait075 Hynix C-Dies
Hello brother
Baked beans on toast
Can't even clock my Corsair vengeance 3600MHz to 4000mhz
This is gear 2.
oh no. this gonna be tragic
Where's Frame Chasers?
His extremely unstable CPU overclock is having seizures
The confusion about half/double speed comes from people using wrong terminology. It's 4000 MT/s, not MHz. Because everyone started using the wrong terms, even manufacturers started doing it.
Gosh
lol we have chips that will hit 5.1 ghz 8 cores 16 th. its called 9900k
Meh, showing settings that work for YOU config is hardly helping people with doing it themselves. Especially beginners need something like DRAM CALCULATOR in order to get a baseline of what numbers to use.
I explain that in the video
What is this accent called
Prime 95 is a poor choice for memory testing and should not be recommended.
hahahhahahahahha lol com on man
1% lows??? what a shame u didnt even measured.
On the website x
So game performance got about 1% better !! Did I understand right? Is this hobby just a waste of time ?
only a waste of time for you since it would take you so long.