I’m an Ibanez guy since the beginning born in 72’ living thru the 80’s had many guitars starting with American Tele, then to Gibson Les Paul Special, then in late 80’s picked up my Ibanez RG 570 and never looked back. I sold the rest and bought more RG’s for my style of playing and Love of Hard Rock sound. On to pedal ; I downsized once my child was born and being from Ms. I picked up Peavey 6505 Piranha micro 20 watt head w/ 6505 1x8” cab for my small man cave and it has exact metal sound I was looking for. I’ve had fender, orange terror, and many Peavey amps but looking for mid/ range, low end boost for my 8” driver in cab. I borrowed the Boss DS-1, Ibanez TS-9, and DigiTech Bad Monkey overdrive pedals. I chose the BM for it gave me the EQ & mid/low boost I needed for smaller cab and absolutely Love it. I know this is long but wanted to describe what I was looking for and why for anyone else. Usual post tell you about pedal but never what equipment they are using. Hope this will help someone starting out with pedal questions.#DigiTech#BadMonkey#Ibanez#RG❤️#Peavey❤️
Hey guys, Just FYI. The OD-3 is not a tube screamer. It's a discrete based circuit more similar to a blues driver in layout (two discrete pampas stacking for gain versus the tubescreamers single stage. A better selection from boss would have been the SD-1. The OD-3 is soft clipping symmetrical, whilst the SD-1 and the tube screamer is asymmetrical. Otherwise good video.
Hi man, thx for your comment. We know, we had a lot of comments about the fact that the OD3 is not the same circuit as the Tube Screamer. We choose the OD3 based on a JHS video where Josh Scott says that the OD3 is, somehow, based on the SD-1. That was probably our misinterpretation of Josh's words. However, we think is interesting to compare the OD3 to a classic Tube screamer circuit since the OD3 is kind of an "evolution" of the Sd-1. Maybe a comparison between OD3 and SD1 would be more appropriate for that purpose.
@@xRepoUKx I'm honestly not sure about the bad monkey, and I know the od3 is not because I have one myself, but the plumes absolutely is a tube screamer circuit. It is EarthQuaker devices offering for a tube screamer circuit type pedal. But in my opinion it's a big improvement over an original ts9 or 808 because the switching provides loads more tonal options. If I remember correctly the pots on the plumes are also different in that they utilize a much broader sweep, so you end up with more tweakability. I'm not big on tube screamers which is why I own an od3, but if I were going to get a tube screamer type pedal it would either be the plumes or the JHS bonsai. The plumes you can't beat, because it's only 90 bucks. A bonsai and even a genuine ts9 are both more expensive than the plumes, but the bonsai has a mode switch which essentially makes it nine different tube screamers circuits in one pedal. I play a Les Paul through Peaveys and Marshalls though, so mid hump overdrives are unnecessary. Even when I play my Stratocaster through my supersonic 60 I don't want a tube screamer there either. The od3 is where it's at. It has a voice of its own and does its whole own thing, and I love it. When somebody says the word overdrive I think of my little yellow box not a green one 🤘😁
What I think is special about the monkey is that it changes the feel of my guitars in a good way. It seems like something you can’t hear but just feel in you fingers. Weird. I love it.
This video confirmed why I can’t get a tone I like out of my 808, which is even darker than the 9. The plumes sounds awesome though, I was sure on an od-3 before this video but now the plumes is a contender
I have the Plumes, and after threatening to sell it (it sits around a lot simply because i use a different OD on my bass board) I feel a lot more inspired to use it. The amount of low end it retains is remarkable, even more so than the Green Russian. People complain that it sucks low end, but they don't seem to get that they can't just crank the tone and expect the low end to come through as much as all the higher harmonics... I perceive almost no loss of lows between tone and min and tone at 12, a perfectly usable range for bass imo.
I chose the Bad Monkey a long time ago. It had more tonal nuances with the separate bass & tone control and an old EHX Linear Power Boost after the Monkey takes care of any gain issues or need to boost anything for a solo part. It also works well with bass guitar because of the separate bass control and less clipping.
We As A Company Fer sure bro. While the bass pot is, as you explained, touchy, that same pot has worked for me well, as-is, when I run my bass through it. It’s much more manageable and I reckon that has to do with interaction with the LRC network that is an electric bass’ electronics (passive). I don’t know the specific kind of impedance dynamics are at play.
Bad Monkey is one of the best drives for guitar but unfortunately it is almost unusable with bass because it shapes the lows for guitar by filtering LF below 100 HZ which are main frequencies for bass. But I know some bass players modding this pedal by changing the capacitor in the circuit to prevent cutting lows.
I'm just here to say how fucking happy I'm to finally find a guitar channel that likes Oasis. I've seen only 2 of your videos and recognized 3 oasis songs, give us more and more Oasis please!!! Cheers!!
Play Electric Guitar for over 20 years now, and I went back to the od-3. Gonna review my stereo pedalboard, when it‘s ready. Thank you for the demo. It confirms, that my decision was right. 🤟
Videos like these are why i have ordered the OD-3, not a tube screamer but an awesome, bang for ya buck overdrive. I think the Plumes is also great for the tone knob range. Cheers for the demo.
@@erpringle yeah I know what you mean. When played with rather high output Humbuckers it starts with relatively much crunch even with drive all the way down. But with single coils or something like low output Burstbuckers or Fender Wide Range Humbuckers it’s just fine. And of course it’s not as versatile as the plumes… the OD-3 was designed in the 90’s. IMHO it’s supposed to sound like a late 70’s Plexi. I think it works really nice for home practice. I play it on a Marshall JCM 800 (1 Watt) and it sounds great. But in the rehearsal room or on stage the plumes shines.
This is like the 5th video of yours I've used to make a decision on buying a pedal, finally Subscribed, apologies for the delay, even though this is a tube sceamer shootout 🤣🤣🤣
I had the OD-3 in the past but I sold it. I still have my Bad Monkey because it's much more versatile. I usually set it like this: Level to 3-4, Low to 6-7, High to 8-9 and Gain to taste. That's when the pedal shines. Set like this it's no longer just a tubescreamer but even a very usable overdrive sound on a clean amp or close to breakup
The Plumes has the most clarity of the four as a standalone pedal but also a lot more transparency. The Bad Monkey and TS9 sound similar, with the former having separate controls for the bass and treble frequencies. The OD-3, IMO, has the splinter-y treble of the Plumes with the muddy low mids of the TS9.
Crank the volume of the Plumes and you'll never choose another Pedal. It's the most versatile Overdrive i've ever own. From smooth OD up to Doom. But he doesn't crank it up.
I have the Hardwire version of the BM…the Tube Overdrive. Much more headroom! I have all the pedals except the TS-9. And the Plumes booted my Blues Driver off the board, thanks to mode 2. Good video!
@@199theartist at the point I posted this, I was running the Tumnus cleanish into the Plumes with the gain around 2 o’clock and the toggle on mode 3. I can’t remember exactly where I had the Tumnus set, but it was set just high enough to take the amp from clean to edge of breakup. That setup gave me clean with both pedals off, light breakup with the Tumnus on (and Plumes off), a little more gain with the Plumes on (and Tumnus off), and as much gain as I would ever need with both on. I also keep my guitar volumes around 7 or 8 so there’s always a touch more gain there if I need it. Since this post, I’ve also tried a MojoHand Speakeasy (EP style boost) into the Plumes and got a similar result, but the Tumnus Deluxe had a more pleasant breakup for the first gain stage, while the boost was almost bland in comparison. This has been the most useful setup I’ve had on my board, but I’m currently using a Zvex 59 Sound chasing a very specific tone or I’d still be running the Tumnus into the Plumes over a year later.
I have all four of these pedals. Plumes is the one I like least, just can't find a sweet spot at any setting. I mostly play teles through Marshalls or Laneys. The best two for me are the Bad Monkey and the OD. If I can only carry one it's the Monkey, cuz it has more EQ control and has mixer out, in case the backline amp fails. I like pairing it with the OD or TS, using either of the latter as a booster.
Just picked up replacements for my DBM and SD-1. They sit alongside the Plumes and my $30 Centaur Clone (which sounds phenomenal for the price). These give me all the flavors of OD I have ever needed. I have a Big Muff Op Amp fuzz that I use in parallel with my other amp pathways, but tow with putting it up front every now and then. But it’s tight enough for a fuzz that it almost lends a Sunn Beta Lead element to my mix. Nice to hear a side by side comparison of all these variations on a theme. I do have to agree, though that the SD1 might have been a better Boss rep in this comparison. Great vid nonetheless.
Yep, you're right, not the same circuit. But they kind of belong to the same "area", let's say. But the OD3 has a different texture, way more scooped in mids cause is a different circuit as you said.
@@WeAsACompany I suppose they belong to the same "area" as they are both overdrive pedals, yes, but to include it in a "Tube Screamer" video instead of the SD-1 seems a bit misplaced to me because it's just not a Tube Screamer, but the SD-1 is, and really should be there instead. Of course, this is the internet, and this is just like, my opinion, man. ;)
@@MachuPicchu83 Hi man, you're absolutely right and your comment is very welcome. The reason why we featured the OD3 in this video is that it sounds very similar to the Plumes to our ears. Since the Plumes is probably one of the most popular modern takes on the TS circuit, together with the Bonsai, we thought it would have been cool to give people a wider spectrum of that kind of tone. The OD3 is not exactly a TS but belong to the same wide "family" since it is an evolution of the OD1. On top of that is a sleeper, and we think this pedal deserves more attention. This said, you're spot on, the OD3 has not the same circuit as a TS. Your comment is well received and we'll be more accurate in the future. Thx!
I liked ts9 for clarity, and BM overall very nice. I didn’t like the mushiness of the plumes so to say? Od3 kind of in between. But thanks for the great comparison!
Amazing shootout. Love the tube screamer, love the plumes but I’m also with you on the yellow boss drives. Although it’s not exactly the same thing, I’ve had an sd-1 on my rehearsal board for years and I’ve just never felt the need to replace it.
Having owned the Plumes for almost a year now, I've come to feel that its not actually a Tube Screamer, and that it more closely compares to the OD3 or the Blues Driver. Your comparison side by side comparison pretty much proves that, but at the point you A/B'd those two pedals you had the Plumes in Mode 1. It sounds much closer to the OD3 in Mode 3.
@@WeAsACompany buddy, i discovered the way huge green rhino, and now i'm tempted to buy one because he has controls of mid and bass. My amp is a vox ac15 and are mid focused and lacks bass. A ts9 lacks the bass i need
I totally want the plumes, I have the jhs bonsai and a way huge green rhino, am selling the green rhino for a plumes. The clipping option is really neat, I have the mxr Timmy overdrive and ordered an EQD grey channel and cannot wait!
Hey, nice job mate... sd 1 is the tube screamer from boss i agree with the mate.. even od 3 is a better stand alone as the sd-1. OD 3 is super beside its touch sensitivity... for me your Bad Monkey is not that good... even it is still great. I have one apparently from the same production, year or factory. And then i got another one because i loves this pedal. There are other monkeys with a brighter green colour still made in China that sound even better.. more open, more chimey and a little bit gain and headroom too. I bought a second monkey to see if i had luck to get an american one. I want to turn them to true bypass switching. I was blown when i got my second one for 30EUR and it was better than my first one (35 EUR)...
Thx a lot mate. this is very interesting. I didn't know that the Bad Monkey could have been different based on production. Thx a lot for the info. I love mine but There's something weird with the low knob, it gets very boomy and unusable if maxed.
I'm precissely confussed between the Plumes and the OD-3, so it's really nice to have both in the same video, and there is soo many videos that compare the Od-3 or the Ts9 with the Sd-1, so thank you so much! (btw i love oasis too)
I've owned the each of these except the OD-3, and the Paul Gilbert TC pedal also belongs in this conversation. Appreciate this review, but the Monkey was only shown at full gain, and that pedal's versatility for the $ is crazy. The gain level versatility is important for the Bad Monkey. Also LOVE the Plumes, but the Bad Monkey is my favorite because of it's flexibility and controls. I'd vote Bad Monkey and Plumes as almost a tie, then Paul Gilbert TC, and pass on the OD-3 and TS-9 comparatively. The OD-3 doesn't quite fit here. That said, Boss pedals are SO durable, and that matters. Digitech not so much... just the facts, ma'am.
Coming from your BD2 comparison vid. Your guitar tone is very muddy, flubby here too! Haha! You playing a Squier? Or maybe your amp, is it a low end kinda entry level affair that pushes the lows so beginners think they have an epic, huge guitar sound? Sorry for this line of questions, it can be read as negative, but I hope you don't read it that way. Thanks for these vids.
If you had to choose, would it be the plumes or od-3? We almost need a head to head, I can’t decide, I hate my 808 so I never expected to like a 808 based pedal!
@@WeAsACompany certainly seems like you could get better Van Halen tones out of the od-3! Is it just me or is the plumes more crackly, almost fuzzy, like early pumpkins? The plumes certainly seems more of a modern sound. I’m having a hard time deciding, and pedals aren’t cheap :)
My plumes switch stopped working. It don’t come on period. There is a click sound when u turn it on and now it just depresses without the click so don’t no if it’s just a new switch but otherwise I liked it
Yep, OD3 is a fantastic drive and the BD is great too. They're similar but the OD3 is a little bit more open and with less gain. They can easily stay on a board together. We've to do a comparison at some point.
Yes, we know, this is why sounds way better than others ;). We based the choice on the fact that Josh Scott says in a video that the OD3 was "based" on a Tube Screamer. Then we learned that the OD3 has a different circuit. Well, at least is a cool comparison.
In guitar circles it's not unusual to use "gain" to mean clipping, because "gain" is the term most often used for the knob that controls most of the clipping in the circuit. I wouldn't say it was wrong of them to use it.
@@jdjk7 clipping occurs when the signal amplitude exceeds the voltage of the circuit it is flowing through. Gain is another term for volume. Volume can cause the circuit to clip but gain and clipping are not interchangeable. Specifically, in hifi or proaudio applications those terms are not interchangeable and it's necessary to differentiate the two.
I am not interested in the bad monkey or TS9 at all. They don't sound as good. I owned a TS9 for years and always accepted it as the standard back then. I'm interested in the OD3 and the Plumes. I think that the Plumes sounds best on mode 2 and I disagree, I think it sounds more like the OD3 in that mode and colors the sound less than the two tube screamers. It's clearer like the OD3 but does have more mid-boost sure.
Yeah, wanking the pentatonic on an acoustic on your channel is some quality content. I’d listen to this guy over you any day. Nice attempt to spread your misery with everyone, too bad we all just laughed at you and feel better about ourselves now.
Here we go, guys! First TS-style pedals shootout on this channel. What's your favorite among these?
TS9. Kinda disappointed by the OD-3; it sounds thin and messy!
I’m an Ibanez guy since the beginning born in 72’ living thru the 80’s had many guitars starting with American Tele, then to Gibson Les Paul Special, then in late 80’s picked up my Ibanez RG 570 and never looked back. I sold the rest and bought more RG’s for my style of playing and Love of Hard Rock sound. On to pedal ; I downsized once my child was born and being from Ms. I picked up Peavey 6505 Piranha micro 20 watt head w/ 6505 1x8” cab for my small man cave and it has exact metal sound I was looking for. I’ve had fender, orange terror, and many Peavey amps but looking for mid/ range, low end boost for my 8” driver in cab. I borrowed the Boss DS-1, Ibanez TS-9, and DigiTech Bad Monkey overdrive pedals. I chose the BM for it gave me the EQ & mid/low boost I needed for smaller cab and absolutely Love it. I know this is long but wanted to describe what I was looking for and why for anyone else. Usual post tell you about pedal but never what equipment they are using. Hope this will help someone starting out with pedal questions.#DigiTech#BadMonkey#Ibanez#RG❤️#Peavey❤️
Hey guys, Just FYI. The OD-3 is not a tube screamer. It's a discrete based circuit more similar to a blues driver in layout (two discrete pampas stacking for gain versus the tubescreamers single stage.
A better selection from boss would have been the SD-1. The OD-3 is soft clipping symmetrical, whilst the SD-1 and the tube screamer is asymmetrical. Otherwise good video.
Hi man, thx for your comment. We know, we had a lot of comments about the fact that the OD3 is not the same circuit as the Tube Screamer. We choose the OD3 based on a JHS video where Josh Scott says that the OD3 is, somehow, based on the SD-1. That was probably our misinterpretation of Josh's words. However, we think is interesting to compare the OD3 to a classic Tube screamer circuit since the OD3 is kind of an "evolution" of the Sd-1. Maybe a comparison between OD3 and SD1 would be more appropriate for that purpose.
Strictly speaking, the only TS here is the TS! But many people will equate TS to any overdrive so the review is still good IMHO.
@@xRepoUKx I'm honestly not sure about the bad monkey, and I know the od3 is not because I have one myself, but the plumes absolutely is a tube screamer circuit. It is EarthQuaker devices offering for a tube screamer circuit type pedal. But in my opinion it's a big improvement over an original ts9 or 808 because the switching provides loads more tonal options. If I remember correctly the pots on the plumes are also different in that they utilize a much broader sweep, so you end up with more tweakability. I'm not big on tube screamers which is why I own an od3, but if I were going to get a tube screamer type pedal it would either be the plumes or the JHS bonsai. The plumes you can't beat, because it's only 90 bucks. A bonsai and even a genuine ts9 are both more expensive than the plumes, but the bonsai has a mode switch which essentially makes it nine different tube screamers circuits in one pedal. I play a Les Paul through Peaveys and Marshalls though, so mid hump overdrives are unnecessary. Even when I play my Stratocaster through my supersonic 60 I don't want a tube screamer there either. The od3 is where it's at. It has a voice of its own and does its whole own thing, and I love it. When somebody says the word overdrive I think of my little yellow box not a green one 🤘😁
@@WeAsACompany I don't think JHS said that. Something got lost there. Can you say which JHS video that was in?
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What I think is special about the monkey is that it changes the feel of my guitars in a good way. It seems like something you can’t hear but just feel in you fingers. Weird. I love it.
The Bad Monkey is a sleeper.
This video confirmed why I can’t get a tone I like out of my 808, which is even darker than the 9. The plumes sounds awesome though, I was sure on an od-3 before this video but now the plumes is a contender
I have the Plumes, and after threatening to sell it (it sits around a lot simply because i use a different OD on my bass board) I feel a lot more inspired to use it. The amount of low end it retains is remarkable, even more so than the Green Russian.
People complain that it sucks low end, but they don't seem to get that they can't just crank the tone and expect the low end to come through as much as all the higher harmonics... I perceive almost no loss of lows between tone and min and tone at 12, a perfectly usable range for bass imo.
I chose the Bad Monkey a long time ago. It had more tonal nuances with the separate bass & tone control and an old EHX Linear Power Boost after the Monkey takes care of any gain issues or need to boost anything for a solo part. It also works well with bass guitar because of the separate bass control and less clipping.
Dad Monkey is great, with the two knobs you can shape the tone way better. However, the lows knob is very sensitive and you have to use it carefully.
We As A Company Fer sure bro. While the bass pot is, as you explained, touchy, that same pot has worked for me well, as-is, when I run my bass through it. It’s much more manageable and I reckon that has to do with interaction with the LRC network that is an electric bass’ electronics (passive). I don’t know the specific kind of impedance dynamics are at play.
Bad Monkey is one of the best drives for guitar but unfortunately it is almost unusable with bass because it shapes the lows for guitar by filtering LF below 100 HZ which are main frequencies for bass. But I know some bass players modding this pedal by changing the capacitor in the circuit to prevent cutting lows.
I'm just here to say how fucking happy I'm to finally find a guitar channel that likes Oasis. I've seen only 2 of your videos and recognized 3 oasis songs, give us more and more Oasis please!!! Cheers!!
Thx a lot for your comment! We're so happy to see Oasis lovers among guitar players.
What song is this?
@@mirata7748 “fade away”
Play Electric Guitar for over 20 years now, and I went back to the od-3. Gonna review my stereo pedalboard, when it‘s ready. Thank you for the demo. It confirms, that my decision was right. 🤟
Thx for your comment. OD-3 is one of the best overdrive out there, so much underrated.
I own the Plumes and OD3 and I cannot for the life of me decide which I prefer, they're both fantastic pedals.
Probably because they are very similar. You can't go wrong with either :)
How is the midrange on the Plumes in comparison to the OD-3? The OD-3’s pretty good but my single coils could use some more juice.
Videos like these are why i have ordered the OD-3, not a tube screamer but an awesome, bang for ya buck overdrive. I think the Plumes is also great for the tone knob range. Cheers for the demo.
Thx so much for your comment.
The Boss OverDrive is killer! Love the plumes as well
Yep, OD3 is one of the best overdrive out there, and you can get it for really cheap.
IMHO the OD3 is way too distorted and not as versatile as the Plumes.
@@erpringle yeah I know what you mean. When played with rather high output Humbuckers it starts with relatively much crunch even with drive all the way down. But with single coils or something like low output Burstbuckers or Fender Wide Range Humbuckers it’s just fine.
And of course it’s not as versatile as the plumes… the OD-3 was designed in the 90’s. IMHO it’s supposed to sound like a late 70’s Plexi. I think it works really nice for home practice. I play it on a Marshall JCM 800 (1 Watt) and it sounds great. But in the rehearsal room or on stage the plumes shines.
This is like the 5th video of yours I've used to make a decision on buying a pedal, finally Subscribed, apologies for the delay, even though this is a tube sceamer shootout 🤣🤣🤣
Thx very much!
I had the OD-3 in the past but I sold it. I still have my Bad Monkey because it's much more versatile. I usually set it like this: Level to 3-4, Low to 6-7, High to 8-9 and Gain to taste. That's when the pedal shines. Set like this it's no longer just a tubescreamer but even a very usable overdrive sound on a clean amp or close to breakup
The Plumes has the most clarity of the four as a standalone pedal but also a lot more transparency. The Bad Monkey and TS9 sound similar, with the former having separate controls for the bass and treble frequencies. The OD-3, IMO, has the splinter-y treble of the Plumes with the muddy low mids of the TS9.
Amazing shootout man 💪 really like that you tried to put them all about the same sounds. Really helpful!
Thx a lot man!
I dig the OD-3
The OD3 is one of the best overdrives ever. The fact that you can get one used for 40$ makes it even cooler.
Crank the volume of the Plumes and you'll never choose another Pedal.
It's the most versatile Overdrive i've ever own. From smooth OD up to Doom.
But he doesn't crank it up.
I'll try, thx for the advice.
Yea i dig the plumes too... serious bang for buck
Shitty tones all over. Amp is not setup right, or it's digital
I have the Hardwire version of the BM…the Tube Overdrive. Much more headroom! I have all the pedals except the TS-9. And the Plumes booted my Blues Driver off the board, thanks to mode 2.
Good video!
I keep coming back here just to listen to your version of Fade Away.
Tumnus Deluxe into a Plumes is the secret sauce🤌🏼 The Plumes is definitely among my favorite ODs.
What settings do you tend to run on them? I have them both on my board now and am in the midst of mad tweaking
@@199theartist at the point I posted this, I was running the Tumnus cleanish into the Plumes with the gain around 2 o’clock and the toggle on mode 3. I can’t remember exactly where I had the Tumnus set, but it was set just high enough to take the amp from clean to edge of breakup. That setup gave me clean with both pedals off, light breakup with the Tumnus on (and Plumes off), a little more gain with the Plumes on (and Tumnus off), and as much gain as I would ever need with both on. I also keep my guitar volumes around 7 or 8 so there’s always a touch more gain there if I need it. Since this post, I’ve also tried a MojoHand Speakeasy (EP style boost) into the Plumes and got a similar result, but the Tumnus Deluxe had a more pleasant breakup for the first gain stage, while the boost was almost bland in comparison.
This has been the most useful setup I’ve had on my board, but I’m currently using a Zvex 59 Sound chasing a very specific tone or I’d still be running the Tumnus into the Plumes over a year later.
I have all four of these pedals. Plumes is the one I like least, just can't find a sweet spot at any setting. I mostly play teles through Marshalls or Laneys.
The best two for me are the Bad Monkey and the OD. If I can only carry one it's the Monkey, cuz it has more EQ control and has mixer out, in case the backline amp fails. I like pairing it with the OD or TS, using either of the latter as a booster.
Just picked up replacements for my DBM and SD-1. They sit alongside the Plumes and my $30 Centaur Clone (which sounds phenomenal for the price). These give me all the flavors of OD I have ever needed. I have a Big Muff Op Amp fuzz that I use in parallel with my other amp pathways, but tow with putting it up front every now and then. But it’s tight enough for a fuzz that it almost lends a Sunn Beta Lead element to my mix. Nice to hear a side by side comparison of all these variations on a theme. I do have to agree, though that the SD1 might have been a better Boss rep in this comparison. Great vid nonetheless.
Excellent comparison, Rock on!
Thx man!
Hmmm... Boss OD-3 doesn't really belong here, as it's not a TS-style circuit in the slightest. The SD-1 is Boss's take on the tube screamer.
Yep, you're right, not the same circuit. But they kind of belong to the same "area", let's say. But the OD3 has a different texture, way more scooped in mids cause is a different circuit as you said.
@@WeAsACompany I suppose they belong to the same "area" as they are both overdrive pedals, yes, but to include it in a "Tube Screamer" video instead of the SD-1 seems a bit misplaced to me because it's just not a Tube Screamer, but the SD-1 is, and really should be there instead.
Of course, this is the internet, and this is just like, my opinion, man. ;)
@@MachuPicchu83 Hi man, you're absolutely right and your comment is very welcome. The reason why we featured the OD3 in this video is that it sounds very similar to the Plumes to our ears. Since the Plumes is probably one of the most popular modern takes on the TS circuit, together with the Bonsai, we thought it would have been cool to give people a wider spectrum of that kind of tone. The OD3 is not exactly a TS but belong to the same wide "family" since it is an evolution of the OD1. On top of that is a sleeper, and we think this pedal deserves more attention. This said, you're spot on, the OD3 has not the same circuit as a TS. Your comment is well received and we'll be more accurate in the future. Thx!
Josh Scott of JHS says the OD-3 to him is a "perfected Tube Screamer" in his video about overdrives under $100
OD-3 is between overdrive and distortion. Very interesting pedal.
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Thank you so much!
You're very welcome.
OD-3!
Such a great pedal!
I liked ts9 for clarity, and BM overall very nice. I didn’t like the mushiness of the plumes so to say? Od3 kind of in between. But thanks for the great comparison!
Thx a lot for your comment. I dig a lot the OD3, even if the voicing is a bit different from standard TS.
I would actually say the ts9 sounds mushy due to the gain character
@@mikusheep i was gonna say to me it is the opposite, TS9 and BM are the mushy ones and Plumes has the clarity...
Nice comparison! But you should choose the SD-1 instead OD-3
Amazing shootout. Love the tube screamer, love the plumes but I’m also with you on the yellow boss drives. Although it’s not exactly the same thing, I’ve had an sd-1 on my rehearsal board for years and I’ve just never felt the need to replace it.
Thx a lot for your comment man! We need to do a OD-3 SD-1 comparison.
Having owned the Plumes for almost a year now, I've come to feel that its not actually a Tube Screamer, and that it more closely compares to the OD3 or the Blues Driver. Your comparison side by side comparison pretty much proves that, but at the point you A/B'd those two pedals you had the Plumes in Mode 1. It sounds much closer to the OD3 in Mode 3.
My god, the plumes sounds more Noel Gallagher than the ts-9 ( what actually he used). I think i will buy the plumes
You won't regret it.
@@WeAsACompany buddy, i discovered the way huge green rhino, and now i'm tempted to buy one because he has controls of mid and bass. My amp is a vox ac15 and are mid focused and lacks bass. A ts9 lacks the bass i need
Its a great pedal.. 100$ well spent
I totally want the plumes, I have the jhs bonsai and a way huge green rhino, am selling the green rhino for a plumes. The clipping option is really neat, I have the mxr Timmy overdrive and ordered an EQD grey channel and cannot wait!
Hey, nice job mate... sd 1 is the tube screamer from boss i agree with the mate.. even od 3 is a better stand alone as the sd-1. OD 3 is super beside its touch sensitivity... for me your Bad Monkey is not that good... even it is still great. I have one apparently from the same production, year or factory. And then i got another one because i loves this pedal. There are other monkeys with a brighter green colour still made in China that sound even better.. more open, more chimey and a little bit gain and headroom too. I bought a second monkey to see if i had luck to get an american one. I want to turn them to true bypass switching. I was blown when i got my second one for 30EUR and it was better than my first one (35 EUR)...
Thx a lot mate. this is very interesting. I didn't know that the Bad Monkey could have been different based on production. Thx a lot for the info. I love mine but There's something weird with the low knob, it gets very boomy and unusable if maxed.
Just wanted to say that I like the loop.
Thx! It's a modified version (due to copyrights blocking) of Oasis' Fade Away.
I'm precissely confussed between the Plumes and the OD-3, so it's really nice to have both in the same video, and there is soo many videos that compare the Od-3 or the Ts9 with the Sd-1, so thank you so much! (btw i love oasis too)
Thx a lot for your comment man!
The Plumes is far more versatile than any of them. I have a TS808 that is heavily modded and the Plumes is on my board.
The OD-3 isn't a TS it's better.
I heard Fade Away by Oasis!
I’ve had all of these except the Plumes. The TS9 is still my favorite. So smooth compared to the others
We've a soft spot for the OD3.
We As A Company oh my bad I thought it was the SD-1! Colors on Boss can be so similar. TS9, SD-1 and Bad Monkey were the three I’ve had.
A pedal in this price range and circuit style that often flys under the radar is the MXR Il Diavolo.
OMG, the Plumes sounds sooo terrible 😩🤦🏻♂️😬
I own the plumes it’s a hell of a pedal
Yes, it is.
I've owned the each of these except the OD-3, and the Paul Gilbert TC pedal also belongs in this conversation. Appreciate this review, but the Monkey was only shown at full gain, and that pedal's versatility for the $ is crazy. The gain level versatility is important for the Bad Monkey. Also LOVE the Plumes, but the Bad Monkey is my favorite because of it's flexibility and controls. I'd vote Bad Monkey and Plumes as almost a tie, then Paul Gilbert TC, and pass on the OD-3 and TS-9 comparatively. The OD-3 doesn't quite fit here. That said, Boss pedals are SO durable, and that matters. Digitech not so much... just the facts, ma'am.
Coming from your BD2 comparison vid. Your guitar tone is very muddy, flubby here too! Haha! You playing a Squier? Or maybe your amp, is it a low end kinda entry level affair that pushes the lows so beginners think they have an epic, huge guitar sound?
Sorry for this line of questions, it can be read as negative, but I hope you don't read it that way.
Thanks for these vids.
If you ever do another TS9 video, I'd love to see the tone sweep go from 7-12 o'clock as well.
Please put route 808 and open road of visual sound
If you had to choose, would it be the plumes or od-3? We almost need a head to head, I can’t decide, I hate my 808 so I never expected to like a 808 based pedal!
They're different and both great, but we have a soft spot for the OD3.
@@WeAsACompany certainly seems like you could get better Van Halen tones out of the od-3! Is it just me or is the plumes more crackly, almost fuzzy, like early pumpkins? The plumes certainly seems more of a modern sound. I’m having a hard time deciding, and pedals aren’t cheap :)
@@WeAsACompany I also want to get a good oasis tone!
@@destroso they're both great, the Plumes is probably more versatile for the application you're looking for.
Oasis - Fade away.
Also: The OD3 is not a tube screamer. The SD1 is closer to the screamer.
Yeah!
OASIS
OD-3 is not at all based on a Tube Screamer, btw!
My plumes switch stopped working. It don’t come on period. There is a click sound when u turn it on and now it just depresses without the click so don’t no if it’s just a new switch but otherwise I liked it
OD-3 sounds best (more open). Also pretty close to the Boss Blues Driver.
Yep, OD3 is a fantastic drive and the BD is great too. They're similar but the OD3 is a little bit more open and with less gain. They can easily stay on a board together. We've to do a comparison at some point.
I think the OD-3 is like the SD-1 and BD-2 had a baby. Its got characteristics of both.
Plumes win
The OD3 is not a TS circuit and shouldn't be in this shoot-out. You should have selected the SD1.
subbed :)
Thx a lot!
the od3 is like the only pedal here that isn't a tube screamer😂
Yes, we know, this is why sounds way better than others ;). We based the choice on the fact that Josh Scott says in a video that the OD3 was "based" on a Tube Screamer. Then we learned that the OD3 has a different circuit. Well, at least is a cool comparison.
@@WeAsACompany yeah even the might Josh Scott got things wrong sometimes😂haha
Would it be more accurate to say clipping distortion than saying gain?
thx for the advice
In guitar circles it's not unusual to use "gain" to mean clipping, because "gain" is the term most often used for the knob that controls most of the clipping in the circuit. I wouldn't say it was wrong of them to use it.
@@jdjk7 clipping occurs when the signal amplitude exceeds the voltage of the circuit it is flowing through. Gain is another term for volume. Volume can cause the circuit to clip but gain and clipping are not interchangeable. Specifically, in hifi or proaudio applications those terms are not interchangeable and it's necessary to differentiate the two.
The boss OD3 is not a tube screamer. It has a different circuit.
Yep, thx for your comment.
The only ts here is the ts. The rest aren’t even clones 😳
Well, bad monkey is a klon in 2023
🤣
Why is the od3 grouped in with these? It's not a ts in any way, lol
the SD is a tube screamer really
I am not interested in the bad monkey or TS9 at all. They don't sound as good. I owned a TS9 for years and always accepted it as the standard back then. I'm interested in the OD3 and the Plumes. I think that the Plumes sounds best on mode 2 and I disagree, I think it sounds more like the OD3 in that mode and colors the sound less than the two tube screamers. It's clearer like the OD3 but does have more mid-boost sure.
Dude, you either make a base guitar or you make a melody. Both with the same pedal. Nothing is understood. Missed opportunity.
thx for the advice!
Earthquake pedals are just terrible. Can’t get a worse pedal
tune your guitar please, is all out of tune :(
На самом деле, неудачный подход к партиям. Сплошная каша!
This comparison is full of noise fsr
First of all, learn how to play guitar.
I know, I'm working on it, thx for the advice.
U nasty prick this demo was good.
Dumb troll.
imagine going on the internet just to talk shit
Yeah, wanking the pentatonic on an acoustic on your channel is some quality content. I’d listen to this guy over you any day. Nice attempt to spread your misery with everyone, too bad we all just laughed at you and feel better about ourselves now.