Marty: hey I've seen this one, this is where Ralph dresses up as a man from space Un-named Uncle: how have u seen this, it's brand new Marty: Yeah well I saw it on a re... run Uncle:What's a rerun Marty:u'll find out
The Harley Quinn (2019) show on DC Universe referenced the fans wanting the Snyder cut. In a meta joke scene, a DC fan is wearing a shirt that says "Release the Snyder Cut"
but that guy was saying bad things about harley Quinn and how he didnt need to see it to know how much it sucked when lets be honest almost every dc fan boy at least gave a chance to harley Quinn if they could (of course some couldn't see it because of monetary reasons)
@@MeowATron No they didn't. The showrunner said it was a harmless joke commenting on toxic fandom in general. In fact he said he used the hashtag for publicity. Even said he has a released the snydercut world in a game (don't remember which)
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"We're talking Batman, Aquaman, Flash-Man, Mustache-Man, Robot-Man and Girl" That is, hands down, the best description of the Justice League ever made.
so, all you're saying is fanboys will be fanboys no matter how bad what they're a fan of is. If that describes Snyder fanboys, it goes the same way for MCU fanboys too, and for that matter, haters. Haters have convinced themselves that the Snyder Cut is terrible no matter what because they've fooled themselves that they're the experts and hating Snyder is the cool thing to do.
Yeah i gotta say, everything he says in this video can be applied to him and this mentality he has of going into the movie thinking it's going to be bad
And it didn’t. It was a huge success especially for a 4 hour film. It kept me entertained and wanting more. It was a success not in a way that snyder cut fans thought it was just good film but no, it exceeded my expectations. It was a great film! Even some of the marvel fans genuinely enjoyed it.
Im a big marvel fan and in theory i liie dc too, but the movies were a little bit to boring for me.... but the snydercut was much darker and stronger in every part of the movie! And now i watching the flash tv series😂 so it worked
@@TheUltimateWriterNZ I mean you're literally saying you're "glad you avoided a timeline where the movie is great" So that just tells me you don't even want a good movie lol Anyway about the actual movie, cool that's your opinion and I respect it 👍
WARNER: We need to rescue this franchise, any ideas? Adviser one: "Put every cut in the movie" Adviser two: "More fanservice" Adviser three: "Stick to the animated movies..." Warner: (We will need a new window)
The animated movies are the same kind of slam dunk as the live action ones. More hype than quality. As in, they're not bad, but when you have movies like Spiderverse, your limited TV budget movie universe looks like pretty forgettable.
Imagine just minding your own business, making a nice movie without any special easter eggs or secrets and then seeing that MattPatt found 94 different theories on the movie you just made.
@@kp1x How dare someone have fun in an unusual way? Because that's literally what this channel is. Someone who enjoyed examining the details of entertainment, whether or not they were intentional, who decided to start posting it on UA-cam. He's not trying to be serious and say there's anything wrong with these movies. It's just having fun by thinking about things too much
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@Lunar & Eclipse :D To be more precise, parts of it were worse than in the theatrical cut, others were better. I just think, after the long wait, no part should've been worse...
I actually really liked the Snyder cut. Like REALLY REALLY liked it. I didn't even have high expectations. I support Snyder now as you can tell from my username
@@Borrrrnana "WhY dO pEoPlE hAtE oN sNyDeR fOr No ReAsOn??? " I mean, mainly you, and your kind of people who think criticism is hate, and that there's no reason behind the dislike.
@@Borrrrnana where's the hate lmfao? From Snyder fanbois who are like "oh you don't like bvs cuz your dumb haha" maybe? Cuz while a 3/10 movie is better than 2/10, it's still worlds away from being actually good, and Snyder fanbois (and Snyder himself) absolutely cannot handle someone saying that Snyder movies are objectively bad.
Things I learned today: The most successful way to win an argument is to wait for my opponent to die . . . although I suppose one could "speed up" that process by . . . no . . . never mind.
Spiderman had it easy, meanwhile on the other side Starfire broke it in half, Wonder Woman lost her arm, Batgirl, Zatanna and others were eaten or destroyed alive and other more horrendous things happened in Justice League dark Apokolips war
@@take2productions570 Firstly, they've announced that it's not going to be a movie but 4 part series. Secondly, because of the fan pressure, he will be forced to make changes to make the movie good
@@BlissOn47 he literally does not, the whole point of this is for him to show his original vision, why would he alter that for not reason other than to appeal to people who already hate him
this reminds me of the godzilla fandoms reaction to 2019's Godzilla king of the monsters, most people who have seen the movie have thought it was an alright film, typical godzilla ets, but some of the hardcore fans hyped the movie up for themselves so much that by the time they saw the movie they decided it was "the best godzilla movie ever", to this day in some fan groups you can criticize the film without be brigaded by fans of the movie, even if your criticism is a valid one.
I've been a die hard DC fan for my entire life that being said though. I don't even care if it turns out to bad. Nothing can be worse then the pain I felt when the JL movie totally flopped. If the Zach Snyder cut is bad, the movie was already bad so nothing was lost.
@@ericpeterson8732 I kinda hope it succeeds for the sake of the name of DC heroes even if it misrepresents the characters. I have so many friends who say DC sucks simply because of the two movies (JL and BvS). I just want to prove them wrong that DC has good characters and that Marvel isn't the best. (Obviously, I'm bias against Marvel because I prefer DC heroes).
it is literally exactly like Matt said in the video lol. i think it's better than the original, but it's still not a great movie. when i hold this up to basically any film i consider "great" in my head, it doesn't even come close
You can laugh all you want, but the Snyder cut will be the vision that he wanted. Zack himself said that the movie we will get will have "no compromise", it literally has his name on the title, it's his movie.
The issue here is, Zack Snyder isn't the type to change his vision or adjust for perceived reception. Love or hate his directorial style, he's a 'stick to his guns' type o' director.
Please, do NOT mistake this as him being bossy and hostile. I heard he's actually among the nicest directors in modern Hollywood. He and Ray Fisher are friends and Jason Momoa invited him to his wedding.
About 3 days after watching the Justice League I couldn’t remember what happened in it. A month after I had a hard time remembering if I even watched it at all.
@@Zedkiller1101 yeah, I understand the joke I just don't think it works well in this situation But then again, it's a joke. I don't think the point is to look at them logically
Right, because other DC movies have been cinematic masterpieces one after another. DCEU is meh, and the only ones who still carry it on their shoulders are Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and probably Superman if they made another Man of Steel movie.
Tony McCrea I disagree. Man of Steel did really well when it came out and then suddenly it was bad. BvS had a choppy theatrical release, but the directors cut fixed all the problems that were left out of the movie. Those two movies are very good comic book movies in my opinion and did very well at trying something different from every other cookie cutter superhero movie that was out at the time. Those two movies were very story and character driven and I enjoyed that a lot. The only reason people say that Wonder Woman and Aquaman are like the top DCEU movies were because they were designed like a more simple marvel movie that’s easier to digest. MoS and BvS UE made me feel like I was reading an actual graphic novel and I absolutely loved that. Don’t get me wrong I love the MCU movies too, but they more or less just make me feel like I’m watching colorful action movies with comic book characters in them. The DCEUs darker, slower more story driven movies were a big breath of fresh air for me compared to all of the other reskined superhero movies at that time. I’m not saying itswrong to have a simple movie here and there because I mean that’s how comics are too, but when you have the main big events of a story, they shouldn’t be treated like any other superhero movie. MoS and BvS UE are very underrated movies and did not deserve the hate they got and I think people are finally starting to realize that. Especially after everything that BvS set up just for Justice League to be so “meh” and not really go anywhere.
Zack had no control over the theatrical justice league. He hasn’t even seen the theatrical justice league. Wheadon refilmed 90% of what showed in theaters. Acting like the theatrical cut is just a colorful version of the Snyder cut is just untrue.
Umm no, sorry. Theatrical cut is still 70% Snyder. Whedon didn’t reshoot that much, people just like to blame everything they don’t like about the film to him conveniently forgetting that MoS and BvS were below average. But all that will be confirmed when the Snyder cut comes out, so the argument here it’s pointless. Enjoy :)
Gotta admit, I never watched Justice League and never heard of this Snyder's cut... but this video you made on it alone makes me want to watch the Snyder cut when it comes out.
Zack is almost single handedly responsible for ruining DC's chance of being on top again. Thanks for incorrectly deconstructing characters that you clearly didnt understand Zack
Wrong, if anyone spending 3min online would see Zack, as a person has been engaging and nice to those. Like I’m not joking, you don’t see anyone having a legit bad thing to say about him as a person. It’s almost like his fans like to engage a chill dude.
So, the movie turned out to be amazing. However, that doesn’t mean the theory was wrong. It means it is untested. If the movie had been bad we don’t know what the reaction would have been.
What movie did you see? The Snyder Cut I saw was horrible. Worse than the theatrical cut in many places. And that *despite* the bonus of hindsight and 30 additional million dollars.
because it was much bigger than the "banks" themselves. It takes a large amount of crisis to actually undermine the world's economy structure, like the Virus is doing right now. Either an extreme acute crisis like the Depression, or a prolonged underperformance of a sufficiently large enough portion of the global economy. The balance can be tipped, but it takes a lot of energy.
*You missed the mark* 1. Zack Snyder is simply completing his vision, he's not doing this film for the critics 2. The #ReleaseTheSnyderCut movement was done to rectified the unfairness and mistreatment of WB towards a director 3. We all know that Joss Whedon version was trash and anyone that is a Justice League and DC fan doesn't deserve such atrocity.
Seriously question, why does anyone care about “the unfairness and mistreatment” of a director that had to step away from the project due to his daughter’s tragic death? When he left the project it was in an extremely early stage in the editing process. The backlash against the über grittiness of BvS convinced the studio to bring in the funny TV man who directed that other superhero crossover movie for editing and reshoots. It’s not like Snyder could have completed it if he wanted to, again he had to step away. Also, as a fan of DC Comics and a huge fan of the near perfect DC Animated Universe of the 90’s and early 2000’s, Zack Snyder is not making movies about the superheroes I love, he has his own take on them that does not jive with the heroes I love.
@@dg9444 I like seeing the differences between the theatrical cuts and the unrated versions that are sometimes released on DVD, Blu-ray, etc. It is interesting seeing the sometimes even minor changes. There's a website called Movie Censorship that compares different versions of films. Sometimes even little changes can make a big difference.
Tad bit of a flaw: Henry Cavill never left the DCEU. He's still in for the movies; he just had "Mission Impossible" and "The Witcher" projects, along with some smaller stuff (like the pandemic) to worry about.
@LEUNG PAK TIN G10M-11 there's someone who made a video exposing the whole video and just debunking it just look that up you'll see how stupid this video is
I had no stake in it. I didn't ask for the Snyder Cut like a lot of the fans because I thought Justice League was so bad that it couldn't be redeemed. But man... I was so wrong. The Snyder Cut was inspired and I really enjoyed it. It made me really sad at what the universe could have been. It's really great
MatPat: Zack Snyder has everything he needs to fix this film. Also MatPat: It's gonna be slightly better at best. Stephanie: What the heck? I don't get a front row seat!?!?
The original movie wasn’t that bad...it was more that they tried to force 3 character backstories into one film rather than their intro films first before that group film. It was too little crammed into one film to have substance.
Like Spider-Man 3 where they tried to have Harry Osborn/Green Goblin, Venom and Sandman as the villain ALL 3 OF THEM Also the asshole Spider-Man scenes
@@Soulz_Samurai Welp, that's the difference between us. I think Wonder Woman was decent, and would've been good if the final act hadn't been a bland CGI fight, and I think Shazam was actually pretty entertaining... but "ZSJL", as you call it, is a poorly written, badly paced mess that demolishes all of its major characters. Well, at least we seem to agree on the entire rest of the DCEU. Worst one so far? I'd probably have to say Birds of Prey, but Wonder Woman 1984 is a hot contender...
@@jobhunter5090 it's true tho, MatPat is clearly biased and his arguments are weak. MatPat is so belittling and condescending in the video so it's only fair for the reaction to be too.
@@DynestiGTI I mean sure he obviously doesn't think it will do well. But the obvious bias isn't towards how bad of a time he is gonna have, and is entirely based around trying to tie a theory about how ravenous fans can be into a scientific study. All of that being said flimsy evidence is better than no evidence and the counter video is 80% rhetoric and insults and i am not one swayed by pure emotion or authority
I'm by no means a Star Wars fan but Rise Of Skywalker didn't fail sure maybe the reviews may not be the best but money is what's most important to large companies like Disney and Rise Of Skywalker made a bunch of it.
Crazy how the fans actually got what they want, just shows you much things the fan can do, the studio actually listened, I mean look at Sonic. I really think they should listen to the fans more, but not too much obvi cuz that could go wrong. It’s also funny how there were so much haters, saying the cut didn’t exist then boom it did and they can’t accept they were wrong lmaoo.. I’m honestly amazed by the fans like they didn’t stop and now they’re getting what they wanted for years. This is such a great example of don’t listen to the people that brings you down, just keep doing what you’re doing and you’ll eventually get what you want👏. Now I’m also really excited to see that cut as well.😆❤️
Actually, just to stick it in. There was a very popular rumor that the Sonic Movie was actually made that way to garner free publicity and was going to use an alternative from the very beginning. Business, business, business everywhere. #justsaying
Simply Aesthetic Yup I’m aware, HBO Max is only gonna release it just cause money duh. But fans still got what they want and the director said there’s no more compromise and they’re letting him do what he wants with his movie so it’s a win-win. If fans gives them back what they want, money, then they’re gonna keep doing what they want, the head pf HBO Max I believe said that they should listen more to the fan’s demand especially Snyder fans, for money again duh. Business, business, business everywhere...
D0GE 1277 At this point I just know it’s gonna be more better than the version we saw.. but a lot of them are a fan of Snyder’s work like BvS, Man of Steel, Watchmen etc. so them not wanting the Snyder Cut is unlikely to happen, but it could still happen I mean look at Last of Us 2 lol
Yeah.... nope. The studio saw an opportunity to save money on making a new movie in the current situation and is recycling what they already own to charge people 2 times for the same thing. Nothing more.
@@MainVillainN when you have basically twice the budget of Civil War and make 300 million less is a dissapointment. Also the movie failed in the critics and the GA
The “Cognitive Dissonance” thing is crazy, and I just realized that it was actually happening when I run! Whenever I do something like a 3 mile run, at the beginning, I feel like giving up and think that I’m tired. While I keep running, however, I start to not feel that same tiredness
That is not really cognitive dissonace, cognitive dissonance is more about thoughts than actions. What you are describing is the endocrine system and the sympathetic nervous system.
He was planning on it till the #ReleasetheSnyderCut became a thing.... Aka He seems fully invested in snyders take at it, soooo when Snyder left half way through the movie he probs was like "I didn't sign up for THIS" and that's why he originally was talking about it.... It's all good now though The Snyder cut release anouncment pretty much CPR'd Henry Cavills motivation into Superman again
Hmm.....If we are going to apply the mentioned theory then its illogical in this scenario. If Dc fans were influenced or in “Cognitive Dissonance”, they would have accepted Whedon's Justice League as is and the film will become a global hit!. Moreover, you basically disrespected everyone who loves DC and passionate about Snyder's artistic vision, that's not cool bro at all. but hey, Snyder cut got you good views
That's what I felt about this Vid. I get his point but it's getting clear that a lot of UA-cam Channels are biased against DC because Marvel has a Bigger Fanbase and if they please that Fanbase, they get to keep some of theirs. I've noticed that Honest Trailers and Pitch Meeting highlight the mistakes in DC properties, while glorifying Marvel
@Calvin Lee Vail Exactly and to think of it on a deeper level. The fact that he made this video confirms that he is in “Cognitive Dissonance” too because in his mind, the film will an overrated mess regardless of the success it might get. He indirectly judged the film before watching it and by that the theory APPLIES to him. In the end, this guy proved to me that he is biased as well, in the sense that he is against Snyder artistic vision and no matter what, the film to him will bad or overrated mess.
@@MovieConvo you can justify anything with cognitive dissonance, it's harder to prove. I think it's more usefull to look for emotional resonance. Avengers Endgame had success because of the emotional payoff it brings people. The Snyder cut, even if bad, will bring some sort of payoff for the Snyder cut fans, I will be happy just to see it, to know it exists and witness its existence, it's not cognitive dissonance.
Kinda the point. Whose fault is it that if I say "the justice league girl" there's only one person I could be talking about? DCAU could've brought in Hawkgirl, Zatanna, Supergirl, etc but directors said "eh, we filled our woman quota, more men please".
he was making a joke about the names ending with man, the said robot-man and flash-man, the alternatives wouldve been 'girl-man', 'wonderwo-man', or something like that
@@JohnBainbridge0 You, um... you saw Mustache-man, right? Every single character outside of Batman was played off in some laughable manner even though Batman is the "normal guy in a costume" out of them. That's kinda the joke you seem to be missing unless your initial comment and your response here were also jokes.
Yeaaaah Right...I'm pretty sure that that's only your brain thinking it's good Cuz you've been waiting and thinking its gonna be good like Matpat explained
You’re . . mad at yourself for thinking that’s what it was? Or . . . Are you mad because it turns out that’s not what it actually is, and what you thought it was isn’t getting released . . .? This is quite worrying lol
1:11 first genuine laugh you've gotten from me in a while. I love the direction you've been going with your latest theories. Please keep recognizing and pointing out your own faults and flaws with the episodes. It only makes you more credible when you admit you are trying to make something that isn't totally intended instead of pretending like you found a super solid theory.
Ooo! A theory drenched in Psychology; I love it! One word of caution, there are always exceptions to the rule, and ways to bypass biases. With Belief Perseverance, the counters are a willingness to learn and repeated exposure to the contrary elements. While it is true that the majority of people will argue against what you put forth against them, there are some (with various methods from the Socratic one to mere examples) that do change, or at least better accommodate, their beliefs. This is why I love Psychology so much; lots of interesting and wonderful things to learn. And you always find out that no matter how deep something is embedded, the mind ALWAYS has the capacity to grow and change. If it didn't, we would all be doing the same thing that our ancestors did from a long time ago. Excellent video, but always remember those exceptions and the ability for folks to grow beyond themselves :D
The flipside of the whole cognitive dissonance thing is that we could easily end up in a situation where vast numbers of people end up going "Wait *that* was the famous Snyder cut everyone's been going on about for years?". Sure, some of the fans who are deeply invested in this thing will be unwilling to let it go, regardless of how good the actual film (or miniseries) is. But all the hype has attracted the interest of a much wider circle of people who *aren't* as invested - and who are plenty willing to tell the world if they don't think the film was worth their time. And that's not even counting the people who will go into the film irritated by all the hype and setting a *higher* bar to judge it by.
@@Ian-hj4ytThe OC is saying that the hype and cognitive dissonance can backfire cuz the hype will attract a lot of people who weren't even interested, and possibly even irritated by the uproar for the Snyder cut, So they'll go in with high expectations but not interested enough to have convinced themselves that it HAS to be good, the irritated ones possibility even having convinced them it will be BAD, so these people will see the movie and if they hate it, if this "casual" crowd turns out to be bigger than the "hardcore fan" crowd, the overall reception of the movie will be negative
I disagree. I've waited 7 years for the last of us part 2 only to have been sorely disappointed. No amount of cognitive dissonance will justify a trash game or movie.
Agreed. I think Matpat is trying to justify in his own mind why there are people who do love Synders work because he doesn't get it. Cognitive dissonance is a theory often used on kids because they have no critical eye. Everyone else it varies degrees
Just because the story killed some of the main characters from the last game, doesn't mean it's trash. You can dislike the story, but you have to admit that the graphics were amazing. The game was trying to send a message that you missed. Do you think you would have liked it if it had just been tlou 1 all over again, but with Ellie a little older?
I loved your theory man, really made me think about how streaming sites really have nothing to lose when releasing a popular project but just a few issues: 1. The 30 million Snyder got was only to complete CGI and do additional ADR so he cannot really "retool" The existing movie 2. The "Snyder cut" Was only ever really a trend not JUST because the movie was bad, but because Joss Wheadon Reshot major portions of the movie and basically buried the whole darkseid plot to streamline the overall plot 3. There is no way to predict the quality of the movie since its basically going to be a whole different movie in general. The only teaser we've gotten so far is all deleted footage.
I disagree on your 1. He could totally retool the movie. He might be limited in some aspects but he could very much do some extra reshoots, dub over some scenes, or just cut out scenes he know won't go well. He can very much use hind sight to make the movie better than it ever would have been. But he'll totally pretend that was "his real vision" from the very start and that "we would have totally gotten this years ago if not for Joss Weedeon" which is bullshit.
I didn't know Snyder cut was a thing b4 this. Heck I didn't know Snyder was even a person. So I watched it with completely fresh eyes, expecting it to disappoint me again. But it absolutely blew me out of the water. By far the best DC movie after the Dark Knight trilogy.
@@imirkksome2476 I don't think Josh Whedon is bad per say. It's that Snyder has his tone and so does Whedon and neither one is objectively worse or better, it's up to preference. Snyder was already halfway in making JL when Whedon was bought in to make is more "marvel like". That miss match in tone and the forced jokes really fucked up the original. Then there was the run time they were forced to shorten it to 2 hrs so naturally they had to cut out a lot of bits. The main thing at fault here is corporate greed neither director is explicitly to blame. Still disappointed to see there won't be more of the snyder-verse because I want more of darksied and I want injustice to happen.
@@imirkksome2476 Yeah man I just want directors to do their thing and actually follow through with their vision from the start to the finish. Rather than have them change and create this mess. WB really dropped the ball here big time.
The hype for this movie is unbelievable, but that is what I'm worrying about, it's not uncommon to see movies, games and even TV series being over hyped so much so that it can't live up up to the expectations of the audience and viewers. I agree with you about HBO boosting it up to look even better than it all ready is, but personally I think the people who post about it on Twitter, Facebook or any social media site have just as big a voice as HBO, if not louder. But any way, I still think that this was an amazing theory as all ways so congrats!👍
You want a theory? - Its actually a bot farm & a bunch of people in an office in Vietnam creating the "demand" for this "movie" - Sure there are the zombies who just parrot along - but just based on Aqua man - or atlantis dude or whatever nonsense that was - who over the age of 12 really needs to see this? -
@@brentgreeff1115 I'm going to be brutally honest with you. Lack of confidence, is what makes people fail; you mention Vietnam, fine, that's what I'm talking about, the Asians have been doing a great job with their own franchises, take a look at Pokemon, Dragon Ball S or any other mainstream animation, they age like wine, they don't die. In the west, people struggle way too much with their own multi-millionaire projects, and they don't always succeed.
@@brentgreeff1115 to put it very simple, if any creator fails, it's going to be due to his own lack of confidence, only an idiot would give too much importance to what YT says. What is YT? absolutely nothing, I heard it's going to die the next year.
@@kurtringwald7968 They have been saying YT been dying for 2 years now. But the only alternatives, like Bitchute for ex. are still not up to speed and the only advertising it getting is by word of mouth.....er, type. I doubt YT itself will ever advertise their competition. On top of that, even if they do get up to speed, people will be stuck on YT because they have invested too much either emotionally, monetarily or are just too damned lazy to push buttons to go on another site.
It would be funnier if it was “Batman, Aquaman, Flash-man, Mustache-man, Robot-man and NOT man 😂
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Ya got pinned good job m8
I'm here on 4th like now 2k likes appear
Taranov mate that’s not game theory nor film theory that’s a completely different channel
I wanna see how huge you get I was here at 38 likes😆
@Aris Velasquez what was yours?
This guy looks a lot like the guy from Game Theory
We should tell game theory
Your insane
Somebody is about to get wooshed I can smell it
They should Collab
Weird. Maybe we should ask him
Matpat: This recut is too big to fail!
Bank owners in 2008: Hey, I’ve seen this one before.
Yeah, and it's happening again, and again, and again.
The big banks won fail because they're not supposed to
@@olegtaranov5757 nice rick roll link
What do you mean you’ve seen it, it’s brand new!
Marty: hey I've seen this one, this is where Ralph dresses up as a man from space
Un-named Uncle: how have u seen this, it's brand new
Marty: Yeah well I saw it on a re...
run
Uncle:What's a rerun
Marty:u'll find out
The Harley Quinn (2019) show on DC Universe referenced the fans wanting the Snyder cut. In a meta joke scene, a DC fan is wearing a shirt that says "Release the Snyder Cut"
And they did it as a taunt to make fun of them.
Okay good to know
but that guy was saying bad things about harley Quinn and how he didnt need to see it to know how much it sucked when lets be honest almost every dc fan boy at least gave a chance to harley Quinn if they could (of course some couldn't see it because of monetary reasons)
@@MeowATron No they didn't. The showrunner said it was a harmless joke commenting on toxic fandom in general. In fact he said he used the hashtag for publicity. Even said he has a released the snydercut world in a game (don't remember which)
@@olegtaranov5757 are you seriously just spamming that everywhere?
Josstice League Cyborg: Ha I can't feel my toes man
Zach Snyder League Cyborg:I'm not broken and I'm not alone
Best quotes
"Make your own future"
Yeah
Still waiting for the knightmare movie
Power of friendship 🗿
Theory in one sentence: Humans are desperate to be consistent with themselves.
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All the while being the most inconsistent race in all of history
Thank you ima leave bye
@@proacnespa3754 I actually saw the episode when Tom wants to go to heaven originally on tv
@@proacnespa3754 stop spamming
matpat: Sony delayed the Sonic movie
Paramount who actually did it: am I a joke to you
I was looking for this comment😂😂
@@thelandscape4971 ???????
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He really gave Sony too much credit, they abandoned it and gave it to Paramount because they had no faith in the film
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Isn't that right Batman!
I would have shouted my lungs out if he only said the first half lmao
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MatPat: *presents psychological and concrete evidence*
Snyder Cut Fans: I have a different theory, it's just a good movie
I mean...I’m not a dc fan but the movie was awesome.
MatPat: It’s going to be a guarantee slam dunk Editors: Shows a picture of a layup
He did say it was gonna be ‘confusing’🥴
Yeah... clearly they don’t know about bball, but at least they got pretty close to the rim, so it’s convincing enough for most people tbh
@@animegaming_1019 and yes we waiting very fast quickly new york waste filled too fast
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"We're talking Batman, Aquaman, Flash-Man, Mustache-Man, Robot-Man and Girl" That is, hands down, the best description of the Justice League ever made.
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@@proacnespa3754🤣
Well, that's kind of the description of every team.
You could say that about the Avengers, or literally every other team, but go off I guess...
@@DynestiGTI It's not like it was an insult lol, not sure what your point is.
so, all you're saying is fanboys will be fanboys no matter how bad what they're a fan of is. If that describes Snyder fanboys, it goes the same way for MCU fanboys too, and for that matter, haters. Haters have convinced themselves that the Snyder Cut is terrible no matter what because they've fooled themselves that they're the experts and hating Snyder is the cool thing to do.
Hay cut that common sense out mate
Agreed with ya
When facts speak louder than fanboys
Yeah i gotta say, everything he says in this video can be applied to him and this mentality he has of going into the movie thinking it's going to be bad
oversimplifying, but yeah, but it has to do with numbers. More fanboys are invested in it than haters that didn't know its existence.
Matpat: predicts anything about the film
The film: nah
I mean, yeah.
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He's been pretty on par with a few of them.l
Does he ever get tired of being wrong
@@kellykinkade7126 he makes money in every failure.
10:41
MatPat: Sony listened to the fans
Paramount who actually produced the movie: Am I a joke to you?
Sony has been doing great lately, paramount doesn't really deserve all that credit.
missed an opportunity at the end:
"thats just a theory, a Film Theory, aaaaaand (Snyder) Cut!"
ouuu woulda been a good one
^^^^
“It's just a theory, a justice league theory, annnnnnd Snyder cut.”
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One Snyder Cut is too many.
And it didn’t. It was a huge success especially for a 4 hour film. It kept me entertained and wanting more. It was a success not in a way that snyder cut fans thought it was just good film but no, it exceeded my expectations. It was a great film! Even some of the marvel fans genuinely enjoyed it.
Im a big marvel fan and in theory i liie dc too, but the movies were a little bit to boring for me.... but the snydercut was much darker and stronger in every part of the movie! And now i watching the flash tv series😂 so it worked
Heck yeah
@@sumonsobonso4051 Watch Arrow as well!!! 😁😁😁😁
Ironically it ended up failing in terms of revenue costing more then it earned, but it was rly good
I've been a marvel fan and i was curious enough to see the snyder cut and oh my lord did it reshaped my view with DC
So basically:
Our body: this is terrible wasn’t fun I can’t believe I went through this, and I only got a T-shirt.
Our mind: at least I got a T-shirt.
Well, you gotta think about the little happy things in life.
Bonus points if the T-shirt was one of those "All I got was this lousy T-shirt" T-shirts.
Exactly XD
Sadly, the shirt didn't fit.
I actually don't like this theory. I didn't have to make myself like Zack. I like Dark.
Random person: who’s your favourite superhero.
Me: G I R L
Oleg Taranov I’m calling that this is a rick role
@@Batman-ro9mj I'm what am I missing. There's no like.
Mustache Man wipes the floor with that kid
Flash man
I was surprised he didn't call her girl-man.
I'm from the future.
Snyder cut is everything it promised to be.
It has it's flaws but it does everything better and is an amazing experience overall
Wow, glad we avoided your timeline. Over here it was better than the theatrical in many ways but still just fine #martianmilfhunter #marthamanhunter
@@TheUltimateWriterNZ I mean you're literally saying you're "glad you avoided a timeline where the movie is great"
So that just tells me you don't even want a good movie lol
Anyway about the actual movie, cool that's your opinion and I respect it 👍
The Snyder Cut is actually worse than the theatrical cut in some ways. As in, it's easy to say why Whedon would cut some of the stuff he did.
@@Manostion yeah SURE.
@@MistaJ28 I don't think they eve watched it
Matpat: "A guaranteed Slam Dunk..."
Editing Team: *SHOWS A LAYUP INSTEAD*
Do you really think any of them know much about sports?
bruh
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@@space_in_ace I mean, fair point.
Editing team also didn’t catch Matpat calling the sonic movie a Sony movie instead of a Paramount movie
WARNER: We need to rescue this franchise, any ideas?
Adviser one: "Put every cut in the movie"
Adviser two: "More fanservice"
Adviser three: "Stick to the animated movies..."
Warner: (We will need a new window)
I agree with adviser three.
@@lynntaylor9681 Adviser Three usually has the right call. The Execs don't like being told they were wrong.
@@lynntaylor9681 Sadly he was thrown out of the window.
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The animated movies are the same kind of slam dunk as the live action ones. More hype than quality.
As in, they're not bad, but when you have movies like Spiderverse, your limited TV budget movie universe looks like pretty forgettable.
'The fans have fought for Years.'
Jeez, it feels like just a few months ago, that me and my cousin went to watch Wonder Woman.
This is the point when you realize that you're getting old
I think that was Legit the last DC movie I watched.
everyone: release the snyder cut!
aquaman : release the *synder* cut
Imagine just minding your own business, making a nice movie without any special easter eggs or secrets and then seeing that MattPatt found 94 different theories on the movie you just made.
@@kp1x How dare someone have fun in an unusual way? Because that's literally what this channel is. Someone who enjoyed examining the details of entertainment, whether or not they were intentional, who decided to start posting it on UA-cam. He's not trying to be serious and say there's anything wrong with these movies. It's just having fun by thinking about things too much
@@kp1x that wasn't theories, whatever he said was facts. don't be a silly fanboy
Fun fact: Snyder's last name is Cut.
Dude, please help! Maybe you also know what Obama's last name is?
@@mityakiselev this isn't 2019. Nobody cares about Obama. Modi's last name is a bigger question.
@@PurooRoy WH OMEGALUL ?
@@PurooRoy lol
@@mityakiselev JOY LULW 💦 BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Am I the only one who wants a Anniversary edition of “Sans Is Ness”
You aren't anymore. MAKE IT HAPPEN MATPAT
Toot toot! All aboard the anniversary train!
lol
RELEASE THE MATPAT CUT!
Nope.
As a Snyder Cut fan, none of us think the theatrical cut was "meh," we think it was complete trash.
It wasn’t trash, it wasn’t great, it could have been better but it’s nowhere as bad as I’ve heard. Snyder cut better be good.
@@Hudpix16 .....It was pretty bad
@@Hudpix16 It's one of the worse
that's what people with brains think of all of the DC movies Zack Snyder has been in charge of
@@92brunod quite the opposite actually..People with brains understand Snyder and vice versa. You know people hate what they don't understand
Soo a person tricks the brain in order to the brain tricks the person?
" you may have outsmarted me, but I outsmarted your outsmarting!"
I have came upon this opportunities to take, and i will be Your 69th like.
I have been Blessed upon this gratitude from a Like Button.
You thought it was a continuation from my stupid Speech. but it was me, ANCHOVY!
Ya Fell for it, fool!
T H U N D E R
C R O S S
S P L I T
A T T A C K
Sincerly, Ducè.
I would like to mention that “Mustache Man” was not in it due to the fact that tho only true Mustache Man is Mumbo Jumbo himself. Just sayin
You legend
Straight up facts.
Yesssss
Facts tho
Mumbo jumbo finest mustache in the land
Fans: "GIVE US THE SNYDER CUT!"
DC: "The what?"
@Ba Doai bot
I have given you 69 likes... *BE HAPPY!* XD jk
Fans: “WE WANT THE SNYDER CUT!!”
Dc: “The who?”
@@KingJinzo2125 Already released.
The Snyder cut was just amazing for a 4 hour movie
That’s what we said
I disagree strongly. I'd argue it's worse than the theatrical cut and that was already bad.
@Lunar & Eclipse :D
To be more precise, parts of it were worse than in the theatrical cut, others were better. I just think, after the long wait, no part should've been worse...
@@Manostion Huh, interesting. So which part you consider worse than the theatrical cut?
Let's be honest. What other 4 hour movie is there to compare? I know there must be a few, but I know of none.
The Intro: Exists
Scott: write that down, WRITE THAT DOWN
“I mean, this was *the* justice league. I mean we’re taking about Batman, Aquaman, Flashman, Mustacheman, Robotman, and Girl coming together.”
*Waterman* when you translate his name from Spanish.
Doctor Cthulhu agua is water in Spanish not aqua. aqua is like a prefix or something for water in English
I felt like it was a missed opportunity to say wo MAN instead of girl.... But maybe I'm alone there lol
Should have said girlman
All called man except the oldest member of the team who is "girl"
Here’s a Theory how much will it cost phineas and ferb (or doff) spent on their builds
Edit: thank you all for the positive feedback
Better yet. Where do they get their funding from???
@@warmuptheleftovers Their first adventure they wanted to see if they could rob the world's largest money deposit, but it wasn't shown on tv
@@warmuptheleftovers It was implied that Ferb could be a supervillain. Not a joke.
I always tought it came from their moms past superstar career.
That would be a good one for Austin not MatPat
I actually really liked the Snyder cut. Like REALLY REALLY liked it. I didn't even have high expectations. I support Snyder now as you can tell from my username
You didn't have high expectations of course you were going to like it snyder's movies shouldn't be watched with high expectations
@@zenituragaming5043 why do people just hate on Snyder for no reason, give the movie a chance, you might like it
@@Borrrrnana "WhY dO pEoPlE hAtE oN sNyDeR fOr No ReAsOn??? "
I mean, mainly you, and your kind of people who think criticism is hate, and that there's no reason behind the dislike.
@@kushastea3961 criticism and hate are 2 different things, I'm talking about hate here not criticism
@@Borrrrnana where's the hate lmfao? From Snyder fanbois who are like "oh you don't like bvs cuz your dumb haha" maybe? Cuz while a 3/10 movie is better than 2/10, it's still worlds away from being actually good, and Snyder fanbois (and Snyder himself) absolutely cannot handle someone saying that Snyder movies are objectively bad.
Things I learned today: The most successful way to win an argument is to wait for my opponent to die . . . although I suppose one could "speed up" that process by . . . no . . . never mind.
I dont understand how you win, if there person is right there still right even if they are dead
You can't win an argument the human mind basically has to accept that you "won" to move on with your life. just like original ideas don't exist.
Why did this make me laugh?
The way you win is by not trying to convince your opponent, but by trying to convince the passive observers. They're not invested in being right.
I'm surprised that you still haven't made a Thomas The Tank Engine theory yet.
Thomas the tank is a psychopath?
@@Lumbago07 I only start them, but you can follow your own tracks...
He hast to be evil right Thomas the tank Engine if you take away engine you get Thomas the tank
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Okau
“It’s your fault”
*wut did i do*
You existed.
MatPat is just being Facitious.
Oleg Taranov can yuo please stopm so mad that i cant type properly bot so please stop spamming this
@@olegtaranov5674 Because otherwise the show would be called "Tom"
Everything
Well, the new trailer for snydercut was better than josstice league... We can expect the full snydercut to be better.
If we are getting a snyder cut
I hope we get a danvers cut in end game
Where danvers isnt in the movie
Introducing nova instead
remember the suicide squad trailer, yeah, no, good trailer doesn't mean good movie
@@midohatem57 yeah not every good trailer ends up a bad movie. There are many good trailers that ended up for a good movie.
@@kevinmichael4230 id didnt say a good trailer means a bad movie, i said a trailer doesnt show you if a movie is good or bad
Matt was right
"Too big to fail"
My Great Grandmother, born in 1931: Hey I've seen this one before!
“It’s going to be a slam dunk”
4:06 *shows layup*
Editing team getting a dig in.
matpat: this isnt some rainbow flouncy trounsy marvel adventure
me: remembers spiderman say, i dont feel so good
Also, angrysad Hawkeye from the beginning of Endgame
Exceptions to the rule, you say?
Spiderman had it easy, meanwhile on the other side Starfire broke it in half, Wonder Woman lost her arm, Batgirl, Zatanna and others were eaten or destroyed alive and other more horrendous things happened in Justice League dark Apokolips war
@@joxerd that's not the justice league movie though
@@joxerd
That's because it was R Rated.
Because it wasn't gruesome doesn't mean it wasn't shocking or disturbing.
Actually, Snyder isn’t changing the movie for the fans. He is just releasing his original vision, regardless of what the fans Will think of it.
Because that's the kind of director Snyder is.
Lmao, you don’t even know if he’s lying and I bet he is.
@@BlissOn47 Why would he lie?
@@take2productions570 Firstly, they've announced that it's not going to be a movie but 4 part series.
Secondly, because of the fan pressure, he will be forced to make changes to make the movie good
@@BlissOn47 he literally does not, the whole point of this is for him to show his original vision, why would he alter that for not reason other than to appeal to people who already hate him
Matpats the only person who would have a favorite phsycological phenomenon.
I disagree. My favorite is the fixed mindset and Growth Mindsets.
My favorite is Stygian colors, where the brain fatigues on a color and creates a color that doesn’t exist. Look up magenta is not a color
Cognitive dissonance is my favorite too. To nerds.
@@olegtaranov5757 Ok, what?
Hariken Studios It’s a spammer trying to get someone to watch someone’s videos.
this reminds me of the godzilla fandoms reaction to 2019's Godzilla king of the monsters, most people who have seen the movie have thought it was an alright film, typical godzilla ets, but some of the hardcore fans hyped the movie up for themselves so much that by the time they saw the movie they decided it was "the best godzilla movie ever", to this day in some fan groups you can criticize the film without be brigaded by fans of the movie, even if your criticism is a valid one.
It was a great movie compared to the other one’s but I wouldn’t call it legendary
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@@proacnespa3754 shut up
I'm not a godzilla fan but...is there a better godzilla movie?
Miguel Parra yes actually look at Godzilla vs King Ghidorah an amazing movie that I can say is the best Godzilla movie ever
I've been a die hard DC fan for my entire life that being said though. I don't even care if it turns out to bad. Nothing can be worse then the pain I felt when the JL movie totally flopped. If the Zach Snyder cut is bad, the movie was already bad so nothing was lost.
yes, but what if it's good enough that they continue to let Snyder misrepresent your favorite heroes?
@@ericpeterson8732 I kinda hope it succeeds for the sake of the name of DC heroes even if it misrepresents the characters. I have so many friends who say DC sucks simply because of the two movies (JL and BvS). I just want to prove them wrong that DC has good characters and that Marvel isn't the best. (Obviously, I'm bias against Marvel because I prefer DC heroes).
@@emilylemas8070 right! Its It's always does those two movies! Like DC's movies over all are ok but people just based DC off of those movies
Except 30 mill
jejeAmaris I always recommend the Batman Trilogy from the early 2000s but I get ignored. Those were good movies especially The Dark Knight
Well Snyder cut was better then expected, and is now a actual rival to marvel
it is literally exactly like Matt said in the video lol. i think it's better than the original, but it's still not a great movie. when i hold this up to basically any film i consider "great" in my head, it doesn't even come close
I don’t think they are still ricaling marvel but they are heading in the right way
@@inyrui What do you mean, it had no Green Lantern. It was great!
Man i wish they restore the Snyderverse.... The next Batman vs Deathstroke wudve been fuckin amazingg
I think it'll take a lot more then 1-2 good movies to truly compete with marvel. Movies seems to be the category DC fails at for the most part.
Snyder Cut Fails..
Zack Snyder: So theres this 2nd script I had worked on that was rejected..
I dont think it was as simple as saying that...maybe they wanted a completely different take .that failed..way to many mixed signals in the movie
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Chances are people will hype that too
The mere fact that the Russian family isn't in Zack Snyder's Justice League is already better than the Whedon cut.
You can laugh all you want, but the Snyder cut will be the vision that he wanted. Zack himself said that the movie we will get will have "no compromise", it literally has his name on the title, it's his movie.
So when original cut of sans is Ness coming out?
Hello?
Matt?
*Release the Sans cut!*
michael barlow Is that actually coming out the MatPat cut
Fish Hunter yes
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@@olegtaranov2337 why are you spamming this everywhere? This is the third one I've seen in five minutes
Antisocial Artist I’m just reporting them for spam
Matpat: *makes a theory of a thing*
The creator: *I'mma do what they call a pro gamer move*
The issue here is, Zack Snyder isn't the type to change his vision or adjust for perceived reception. Love or hate his directorial style, he's a 'stick to his guns' type o' director.
Please, do NOT mistake this as him being bossy and hostile. I heard he's actually among the nicest directors in modern Hollywood. He and Ray Fisher are friends and Jason Momoa invited him to his wedding.
About 3 days after watching the Justice League I couldn’t remember what happened in it. A month after I had a hard time remembering if I even watched it at all.
Wait what there's already out
@Mohammed Nasser but u missed the joke:)
me
Same
MatPat: It's gonna be a hit!
HBO: Well now I'm not gonna do it.
Wtf
@@25-pkg-shreyannune98 ikr wtf
Wait a second... wouldn't it being a hit mean that HBO will do it?
I understand the joke, but I don't really think you thought this one through
@@JayPannell 90% of Matpat's theories are wrong, so naturally the entire universe will bend to keep it that way.
@@Zedkiller1101 yeah, I understand the joke
I just don't think it works well in this situation
But then again, it's a joke. I don't think the point is to look at them logically
Theory: Joss Weden meant for the justice league to be bad so marvel could rain supreme
Right, because other DC movies have been cinematic masterpieces one after another. DCEU is meh, and the only ones who still carry it on their shoulders are Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and probably Superman if they made another Man of Steel movie.
Tony McCrea you clearly can’t take a joke lmao
QAŪCK - agreed
Tony McCrea I disagree. Man of Steel did really well when it came out and then suddenly it was bad. BvS had a choppy theatrical release, but the directors cut fixed all the problems that were left out of the movie. Those two movies are very good comic book movies in my opinion and did very well at trying something different from every other cookie cutter superhero movie that was out at the time. Those two movies were very story and character driven and I enjoyed that a lot. The only reason people say that Wonder Woman and Aquaman are like the top DCEU movies were because they were designed like a more simple marvel movie that’s easier to digest. MoS and BvS UE made me feel like I was reading an actual graphic novel and I absolutely loved that. Don’t get me wrong I love the MCU movies too, but they more or less just make me feel like I’m watching colorful action movies with comic book characters in them. The DCEUs darker, slower more story driven movies were a big breath of fresh air for me compared to all of the other reskined superhero movies at that time. I’m not saying itswrong to have a simple movie here and there because I mean that’s how comics are too, but when you have the main big events of a story, they shouldn’t be treated like any other superhero movie. MoS and BvS UE are very underrated movies and did not deserve the hate they got and I think people are finally starting to realize that. Especially after everything that BvS set up just for Justice League to be so “meh” and not really go anywhere.
@@jesterfromthecave6691 agreed
“Invested so much they will only think it will be good”
I see you missed the launch of Cyberpunk then.
By good he ment the people who think snyder cut is better that infinity war or endgame......ZSJL is good...but only in comparison to other DCEU movies
Zack had no control over the theatrical justice league. He hasn’t even seen the theatrical justice league. Wheadon refilmed 90% of what showed in theaters. Acting like the theatrical cut is just a colorful version of the Snyder cut is just untrue.
Thanks, a man of culture.
Thank you!!
And this idea is basically confirmed from the trailer.
Exactly, the snyder cut is a completely different movie, people who don't know this either do no research, are deniers, or are just stupid.
Umm no, sorry. Theatrical cut is still 70% Snyder. Whedon didn’t reshoot that much, people just like to blame everything they don’t like about the film to him conveniently forgetting that MoS and BvS were below average. But all that will be confirmed when the Snyder cut comes out, so the argument here it’s pointless. Enjoy :)
The Snyder Cut movement has done some good in the world by raising money for Suicide Prevention
Really? How'd they do that?
Jasmine Williams I think they’re talking about suicide squad
@@jasminewilliams3351 raising >$200k for AFSP
@@jasminewilliams3351 lots of fan campaigns to raise money
They could've done without seeking to get a movie.
Gotta admit, I never watched Justice League and never heard of this Snyder's cut... but this video you made on it alone makes me want to watch the Snyder cut when it comes out.
thriftingtonpost that’s it that’s exactly what he wa talking about
but it was just a theory
Basically JL was fucked with (director change due to stuff) and the movie was 80% reshot
matpat sponsored by hbo confirmed
The Snyder Cut’s going to retcon Josstice League, and rightfully so.
Who”s here after the actual snydercut trailer was released?
Hi hi. Haven't watch it because its not in WB channel for some reason. But going to watch it soon.
L16htW4rr10r it’s on the HBO MAX channel
@@_brendanlopez_ I have see it now
It looks very good
I don't really like the song, but the trailer is great
Matpat: "its a guarenteed success.."
Also Matpat: *new 52*
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14:39
You edited this and still spelled matpat wrong
New 52 was pretty fucking good at first.
DC Fans: We hate Zack.
Joss Whedon: *Exists*
DC Fans: We love Zack.
The people who love zack always loved zack. I havent seen anybody hate zack just because of whedon.
Zack is almost single handedly responsible for ruining DC's chance of being on top again. Thanks for incorrectly deconstructing characters that you clearly didnt understand Zack
@@fireball111121 Zack da goat
fireball111121
Nah.
Wrong, if anyone spending 3min online would see Zack, as a person has been engaging and nice to those. Like I’m not joking, you don’t see anyone having a legit bad thing to say about him as a person. It’s almost like his fans like to engage a chill dude.
I never knew how much I wanted a sans-is-Ness 6 part mini-series until told I was getting one
So, the movie turned out to be amazing. However, that doesn’t mean the theory was wrong. It means it is untested. If the movie had been bad we don’t know what the reaction would have been.
What movie did you see? The Snyder Cut I saw was horrible. Worse than the theatrical cut in many places. And that *despite* the bonus of hindsight and 30 additional million dollars.
@@Manostion What theatrical did you watch? I mean Snyder cut was no mean great but definitely slightly better than theatrical cut.
@@freddice8156
I did say "in many places". Overall they're both trash, and in some places the Snyder Cut was better, but in others it was way worse.
This will totally not turn into a giant internet argument! Definitely not!
I literally fell asleep through it wdym
The banks were “too big to fail” but the Great Depression still happened
Ok?
@@MantaKizaemonFTW no it wasnt
because it was much bigger than the "banks" themselves. It takes a large amount of crisis to actually undermine the world's economy structure, like the Virus is doing right now. Either an extreme acute crisis like the Depression, or a prolonged underperformance of a sufficiently large enough portion of the global economy. The balance can be tipped, but it takes a lot of energy.
*You missed the mark*
1. Zack Snyder is simply completing his vision, he's not doing this film for the critics
2. The #ReleaseTheSnyderCut movement was done to rectified the unfairness and mistreatment of WB towards a director
3. We all know that Joss Whedon version was trash and anyone that is a Justice League and DC fan doesn't deserve such atrocity.
A hater who thinks he's so smart lmao
Maybe you should express yourself more respectful
@@gridview another hater that thinks the same
Seriously question, why does anyone care about “the unfairness and mistreatment” of a director that had to step away from the project due to his daughter’s tragic death? When he left the project it was in an extremely early stage in the editing process. The backlash against the über grittiness of BvS convinced the studio to bring in the funny TV man who directed that other superhero crossover movie for editing and reshoots. It’s not like Snyder could have completed it if he wanted to, again he had to step away.
Also, as a fan of DC Comics and a huge fan of the near perfect DC Animated Universe of the 90’s and early 2000’s, Zack Snyder is not making movies about the superheroes I love, he has his own take on them that does not jive with the heroes I love.
@@TroublingPath Your 90s comic book characters have died, buried it. Consider this mercy!
"No further questions" **Crowd Raises Hands**
That how it be in real life tho...sometimez
So who is here after watching the Synder cut
me
yeah bro it was so good
Me, it was really good
So good
@@ska3521 no it wasn’t lol, atleast to me and everyone I’ve talked to it was great ( I didn’t even see 2017 JL until after ZSJL).
I'm looking forward to see it! I actually would like to see more alternate and director's cuts of films.
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They exist tho. Most movies are basically the directors cut anyway
Oleg Taranov just stop
@@dg9444 I like seeing the differences between the theatrical cuts and the unrated versions that are sometimes released on DVD, Blu-ray, etc. It is interesting seeing the sometimes even minor changes. There's a website called Movie Censorship that compares different versions of films. Sometimes even little changes can make a big difference.
"We hate Syder, we hate Snyder!"
Justice League wasn't as good as we'd like.
"Obviously Snyder would make it better!"
Шоу Троллеров just stop
I want apple syder now
@UCuc-5EsTodiGELAVjqeARpg AD
Hey guys, I found a new cool game theorist. Go and check out his channel: *The Trick Scientist*. He's doing an amazing job!!!!!
@@puffersaur6422
Tad bit of a flaw:
Henry Cavill never left the DCEU. He's still in for the movies; he just had "Mission Impossible" and "The Witcher" projects, along with some smaller stuff (like the pandemic) to worry about.
This
He's actively talked about pitches he's brought to the studio before and has said it's more a case of waiting for them
It's not a tad bit flawed this whole video is flawed it's so stupid
@LEUNG PAK TIN G10M-11 there's someone who made a video exposing the whole video and just debunking it just look that up you'll see how stupid this video is
I had no stake in it. I didn't ask for the Snyder Cut like a lot of the fans because I thought Justice League was so bad that it couldn't be redeemed. But man... I was so wrong. The Snyder Cut was inspired and I really enjoyed it. It made me really sad at what the universe could have been. It's really great
MatPat: Zack Snyder has everything he needs to fix this film.
Also MatPat: It's gonna be slightly better at best.
Stephanie: What the heck? I don't get a front row seat!?!?
Seeing as Zacks tone will completely different I can hardly see how you could compare the two without seeing them.
My 2 baby birds died yesterday and I just told my friend.
And I just got the notification saying that it's my fault
Good job, mat pat I'm crying now!
That's so sad😭
Oh no I’m so sorry :(
Шоу Троллеров shut up
😭😭😭
Sad
The original movie wasn’t that bad...it was more that they tried to force 3 character backstories into one film rather than their intro films first before that group film. It was too little crammed into one film to have substance.
I'm not a big DC or comic fan but for me, the movie was really bad. I don't like the concept of the story & how they used CGI. Just my opinion...
Like Spider-Man 3 where they tried to have Harry Osborn/Green Goblin, Venom and Sandman as the villain
ALL 3 OF THEM
Also the asshole Spider-Man scenes
Yeah, cuz every character in "the might ducks" should have had there own movie before team up movie. 🙄
There’s more than one way to make movies
@@jotheunissen9274 do not disrespect the holy trinity.
So it wasn't not going to fail because it was overhyped, but because it was actually good
I guess you're here to prove Matpat right by demonstrating cognitive dissonance, then? Neat!
@@Manostion I was never excited for this movie, I hate the DCEU, except for ZSJL
@@Soulz_Samurai
Welp, that's the difference between us. I think Wonder Woman was decent, and would've been good if the final act hadn't been a bland CGI fight, and I think Shazam was actually pretty entertaining... but "ZSJL", as you call it, is a poorly written, badly paced mess that demolishes all of its major characters.
Well, at least we seem to agree on the entire rest of the DCEU.
Worst one so far? I'd probably have to say Birds of Prey, but Wonder Woman 1984 is a hot contender...
@@Manostion Badly written?
@@fosterrico5546 Yes.
So basically
Somethings bad in the movie
People: I’m gonna pretend I didn’t see that
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@@DynestiGTI well that was a silly deconstruction, that focused more on belittling this video then it did building argument.
@@jobhunter5090 it's true tho, MatPat is clearly biased and his arguments are weak. MatPat is so belittling and condescending in the video so it's only fair for the reaction to be too.
@@DynestiGTI I mean sure he obviously doesn't think it will do well. But the obvious bias isn't towards how bad of a time he is gonna have, and is entirely based around trying to tie a theory about how ravenous fans can be into a scientific study.
All of that being said flimsy evidence is better than no evidence and the counter video is 80% rhetoric and insults and i am not one swayed by pure emotion or authority
Just like Hollywood and Harvey Weinstein
too big to fail?
*phone rings*, answers
Oh hello rise of skywalker
Never have I heard something more tru in my life
Miss, Bank of America's on line two.
I'm by no means a Star Wars fan but Rise Of Skywalker didn't fail sure maybe the reviews may not be the best but money is what's most important to large companies like Disney and Rise Of Skywalker made a bunch of it.
Lmao it made millions ratings aren't everything
Crazy how the fans actually got what they want, just shows you much things the fan can do, the studio actually listened, I mean look at Sonic. I really think they should listen to the fans more, but not too much obvi cuz that could go wrong. It’s also funny how there were so much haters, saying the cut didn’t exist then boom it did and they can’t accept they were wrong lmaoo.. I’m honestly amazed by the fans like they didn’t stop and now they’re getting what they wanted for years. This is such a great example of don’t listen to the people that brings you down, just keep doing what you’re doing and you’ll eventually get what you want👏. Now I’m also really excited to see that cut as well.😆❤️
Not could would because alot of people think they want stuff but don't want once they get it and conflicting ideas
Actually, just to stick it in. There was a very popular rumor that the Sonic Movie was actually made that way to garner free publicity and was going to use an alternative from the very beginning. Business, business, business everywhere.
#justsaying
Simply Aesthetic Yup I’m aware, HBO Max is only gonna release it just cause money duh. But fans still got what they want and the director said there’s no more compromise and they’re letting him do what he wants with his movie so it’s a win-win. If fans gives them back what they want, money, then they’re gonna keep doing what they want, the head pf HBO Max I believe said that they should listen more to the fan’s demand especially Snyder fans, for money again duh. Business, business, business everywhere...
D0GE 1277 At this point I just know it’s gonna be more better than the version we saw.. but a lot of them are a fan of Snyder’s work like BvS, Man of Steel, Watchmen etc. so them not wanting the Snyder Cut is unlikely to happen, but it could still happen I mean look at Last of Us 2 lol
Yeah.... nope. The studio saw an opportunity to save money on making a new movie in the current situation and is recycling what they already own to charge people 2 times for the same thing.
Nothing more.
Coming from a marvel fanboy, the snyder cut may be too long but it is amazing and epic! Love every second of that film.
No it was trash and a 4 hour waste of my life
@@AlphaAlarmClock cant relate
“Too big to fail”. Why does that remind me of something that failed?
BvS?
100M profit doesn't cover opportunity costs.
I thought of something more like the Titanic (the ship)
@@nikkilee3840 100 m profit was disappointing that's why they reshot suicide squad and justice league. But it's not a fail.
@@MainVillainN when you have basically twice the budget of Civil War and make 300 million less is a dissapointment. Also the movie failed in the critics and the GA
The “Cognitive Dissonance” thing is crazy, and I just realized that it was actually happening when I run!
Whenever I do something like a 3 mile run, at the beginning, I feel like giving up and think that I’m tired. While I keep running, however, I start to not feel that same tiredness
Relatable
Could also just be a runners high tho
That is not really cognitive dissonace, cognitive dissonance is more about thoughts than actions. What you are describing is the endocrine system and the sympathetic nervous system.
SaytiX or I just get high while I’m running
It’s a slim chance, but never 0
Henry Cavil didn't leave DC. He said he'd love to continue playing Superman.
They just need to "toss him a coin" first!
He was planning on it till the #ReleasetheSnyderCut became a thing....
Aka He seems fully invested in snyders take at it, soooo when Snyder left half way through the movie he probs was like "I didn't sign up for THIS" and that's why he originally was talking about it....
It's all good now though
The Snyder cut release anouncment pretty much CPR'd Henry Cavills motivation into Superman again
Hmm.....If we are going to apply the mentioned theory then its illogical in this scenario. If Dc fans were influenced or in “Cognitive Dissonance”, they would have accepted Whedon's Justice League as is and the film will become a global hit!. Moreover, you basically disrespected everyone who loves DC and passionate about Snyder's artistic vision, that's not cool bro at all. but hey, Snyder cut got you good views
That's what I felt about this Vid. I get his point but it's getting clear that a lot of UA-cam Channels are biased against DC because Marvel has a Bigger Fanbase and if they please that Fanbase, they get to keep some of theirs. I've noticed that Honest Trailers and Pitch Meeting highlight the mistakes in DC properties, while glorifying Marvel
@Calvin Lee Vail Exactly and to think of it on a deeper level. The fact that he made this video confirms that he is in “Cognitive Dissonance” too because in his mind, the film will an overrated mess regardless of the success it might get. He indirectly judged the film before watching it and by that the theory APPLIES to him. In the end, this guy proved to me that he is biased as well, in the sense that he is against Snyder artistic vision and no matter what, the film to him will bad or overrated mess.
Yeah. I love mattpat, but he really screwed up this video
@@MovieConvo you can justify anything with cognitive dissonance, it's harder to prove. I think it's more usefull to look for emotional resonance. Avengers Endgame had success because of the emotional payoff it brings people. The Snyder cut, even if bad, will bring some sort of payoff for the Snyder cut fans, I will be happy just to see it, to know it exists and witness its existence, it's not cognitive dissonance.
That's what I was thinking..
1:42 "...and girl."
Wow dude.
You got some cajones calling Wonder Woman, "girl."
Kinda the point. Whose fault is it that if I say "the justice league girl" there's only one person I could be talking about? DCAU could've brought in Hawkgirl, Zatanna, Supergirl, etc but directors said "eh, we filled our woman quota, more men please".
I'm sure the JL Watchtower has a kitchen somewhere.
he was making a joke about the names ending with man, the said robot-man and flash-man, the alternatives wouldve been 'girl-man', 'wonderwo-man', or something like that
@@namekman01 How about woman? My point is that I wouldn't infantalize a woman who can throw me through a wall one-handed.
@@JohnBainbridge0 You, um... you saw Mustache-man, right? Every single character outside of Batman was played off in some laughable manner even though Batman is the "normal guy in a costume" out of them.
That's kinda the joke you seem to be missing unless your initial comment and your response here were also jokes.
I love watching this especially what going on right now
69 like's lets go
Kayin Clay haha >69 likes.
The thing is, I don't think Snyder has even WATCHED Whedon's cut.
He hasn't lol
He said it himself
Why would he?
@@jameshughes7946 To see what went wrong?
@@luigifan001 He doesn't need to.
@@DerezzedMan I think he really needs to, you know, to see what went wrong.
8 months later update as of 22/3/21: The Snyder Cut exists, it’s 4 hours 2 minutes long and it’s amazing!!!!!!
Yeaaaah Right...I'm pretty sure that that's only your brain thinking it's good Cuz you've been waiting and thinking its gonna be good like Matpat explained
@@jaeden1943yes, I’ve been waiting, but I genuinely liked the movie. Even if I didn’t watch the video, I would still like it.
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Me: Can I see them?
UA-cam: No...
Lol
I thought realeasethesnydercut was something about Snyder’s circumcision and honestly I’m mad
I found out why Tom can'T eat Jerry! ua-cam.com/video/kxFLvF8TJYw/v-deo.html
THE BEST GAMES MOMENTS listen bro you are ok to get that bag but this isn’t the best comment to reply to dude
You’re . . mad at yourself for thinking that’s what it was?
Or . . . Are you mad because it turns out that’s not what it actually is, and what you thought it was isn’t getting released . . .?
This is quite worrying lol
H
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Jj Wang I’m mad that it’s not Snyder’s circumcision
1:11 first genuine laugh you've gotten from me in a while. I love the direction you've been going with your latest theories. Please keep recognizing and pointing out your own faults and flaws with the episodes. It only makes you more credible when you admit you are trying to make something that isn't totally intended instead of pretending like you found a super solid theory.
Yeah I like that he does that too, a good man indeed
He's been doing that for years at this point and generally doesn't pretend that he has a super solid theory.
@@johnman8398 its been a bit of a mixed bag imo
I really want a theory on this movie now that it's out. Mabye talking about the new villans and whether or not superman will become the antagonist?
Ooo! A theory drenched in Psychology; I love it!
One word of caution, there are always exceptions to the rule, and ways to bypass biases. With Belief Perseverance, the counters are a willingness to learn and repeated exposure to the contrary elements. While it is true that the majority of people will argue against what you put forth against them, there are some (with various methods from the Socratic one to mere examples) that do change, or at least better accommodate, their beliefs.
This is why I love Psychology so much; lots of interesting and wonderful things to learn. And you always find out that no matter how deep something is embedded, the mind ALWAYS has the capacity to grow and change. If it didn't, we would all be doing the same thing that our ancestors did from a long time ago.
Excellent video, but always remember those exceptions and the ability for folks to grow beyond themselves :D
You are extremely nerdy!
I founD out why Tom can't eat Jerry! ua-cam.com/video/kxFLvF8TJYw/v-deo.html
We still do the same things we did. We follow the same patterns. Just with different variations of those patterns.
@@space_in_ace ikr I love it
@@space_in_ace but that's just a theory...
DC fans: I will protest FOR THE ORIGINAL DC MOVIE
2020: armatures
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armatures?
@@olegtaranov2337 wut?
@@reesecarlton armature?
Reese Carlton that's some armature comedy 😂
Everything is your fault according to Game Theory
So true
@@ShowTrollerrs can you stop spamming that!?
Шоу Троллеров why is there more of you bots
Yeee
Just report them for content spam
The flipside of the whole cognitive dissonance thing is that we could easily end up in a situation where vast numbers of people end up going "Wait *that* was the famous Snyder cut everyone's been going on about for years?". Sure, some of the fans who are deeply invested in this thing will be unwilling to let it go, regardless of how good the actual film (or miniseries) is. But all the hype has attracted the interest of a much wider circle of people who *aren't* as invested - and who are plenty willing to tell the world if they don't think the film was worth their time. And that's not even counting the people who will go into the film irritated by all the hype and setting a *higher* bar to judge it by.
wtf
True some people will see it as something that they've to hate because it wasn't something they weren't hyped for but the world got them hyped for it.
@@Ian-hj4ytThe OC is saying that the hype and cognitive dissonance can backfire cuz the hype will attract a lot of people who weren't even interested, and possibly even irritated by the uproar for the Snyder cut,
So they'll go in with high expectations but not interested enough to have convinced themselves that it HAS to be good, the irritated ones possibility even having convinced them it will be BAD, so these people will see the movie and if they hate it, if this "casual" crowd turns out to be bigger than the "hardcore fan" crowd, the overall reception of the movie will be negative
I disagree. I've waited 7 years for the last of us part 2 only to have been sorely disappointed. No amount of cognitive dissonance will justify a trash game or movie.
Agreed. I think Matpat is trying to justify in his own mind why there are people who do love Synders work because he doesn't get it. Cognitive dissonance is a theory often used on kids because they have no critical eye. Everyone else it varies degrees
@@gaylordcomic Interesting conspiracy theory.
Maybe you conviced yourself that the game is bad?
Just because the story killed some of the main characters from the last game, doesn't mean it's trash. You can dislike the story, but you have to admit that the graphics were amazing. The game was trying to send a message that you missed. Do you think you would have liked it if it had just been tlou 1 all over again, but with Ellie a little older?
@@space_in_ace Actually yeah, I would have liked it more if it was ToU1 again.
The quality of this channel is just mind blowing
I loved your theory man, really made me think about how streaming sites really have nothing to lose when releasing a popular project but just a few issues:
1. The 30 million Snyder got was only to complete CGI and do additional ADR so he cannot really "retool" The existing movie
2. The "Snyder cut" Was only ever really a trend not JUST because the movie was bad, but because Joss Wheadon Reshot major portions of the movie and basically buried the whole darkseid plot to streamline the overall plot
3. There is no way to predict the quality of the movie since its basically going to be a whole different movie in general. The only teaser we've gotten so far is all deleted footage.
I disagree on your 1. He could totally retool the movie. He might be limited in some aspects but he could very much do some extra reshoots, dub over some scenes, or just cut out scenes he know won't go well.
He can very much use hind sight to make the movie better than it ever would have been. But he'll totally pretend that was "his real vision" from the very start and that "we would have totally gotten this years ago if not for Joss Weedeon" which is bullshit.
I didn't know Snyder cut was a thing b4 this. Heck I didn't know Snyder was even a person.
So I watched it with completely fresh eyes, expecting it to disappoint me again.
But it absolutely blew me out of the water. By far the best DC movie after the Dark Knight trilogy.
yea it was really good. zach synder is a really good director for these types of movies.
@@imirkksome2476 I don't think Josh Whedon is bad per say. It's that Snyder has his tone and so does Whedon and neither one is objectively worse or better, it's up to preference.
Snyder was already halfway in making JL when Whedon was bought in to make is more "marvel like". That miss match in tone and the forced jokes really fucked up the original. Then there was the run time they were forced to shorten it to 2 hrs so naturally they had to cut out a lot of bits. The main thing at fault here is corporate greed neither director is explicitly to blame.
Still disappointed to see there won't be more of the snyder-verse because I want more of darksied and I want injustice to happen.
@@justaguy6216 oh yea most definitely, Josh Whedon is a good director, just not his style.
@@imirkksome2476 Yeah man I just want directors to do their thing and actually follow through with their vision from the start to the finish. Rather than have them change and create this mess. WB really dropped the ball here big time.
The hype for this movie is unbelievable, but that is what I'm worrying about, it's not uncommon to see movies, games and even TV series being over hyped so much so that it can't live up up to the expectations of the audience and viewers. I agree with you about HBO boosting it up to look even better than it all ready is, but personally I think the people who post about it on Twitter, Facebook or any social media site have just as big a voice as HBO, if not louder.
But any way, I still think that this was an amazing theory as all ways so congrats!👍
You want a theory? - Its actually a bot farm & a bunch of people in an office in Vietnam creating the "demand" for this "movie" - Sure there are the zombies who just parrot along - but just based on Aqua man - or atlantis dude or whatever nonsense that was - who over the age of 12 really needs to see this? -
@@brentgreeff1115 I'm going to be brutally honest with you.
Lack of confidence, is what makes people fail; you mention Vietnam, fine, that's what I'm talking about, the Asians have been doing a great job with their own franchises, take a look at Pokemon, Dragon Ball S or any other mainstream animation, they age like wine, they don't die. In the west, people struggle way too much with their own multi-millionaire projects, and they don't always succeed.
@@brentgreeff1115 to put it very simple, if any creator fails, it's going to be due to his own lack of confidence, only an idiot would give too much importance to what YT says. What is YT? absolutely nothing, I heard it's going to die the next year.
@@kurtringwald7968 or sooner.
@@kurtringwald7968 They have been saying YT been dying for 2 years now.
But the only alternatives, like Bitchute for ex. are still not up to speed and the only advertising it getting is by word of mouth.....er, type. I doubt YT itself will ever advertise their competition.
On top of that, even if they do get up to speed, people will be stuck on YT because they have invested too much either emotionally, monetarily or are just too damned lazy to push buttons to go on another site.