Film Theory: Red Guardian Fought A FAKE Captain America! (Black Widow)

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    After watching the new Marvel movie, Black Widow, we were all left with one question. Did Red Guardian ACTUALLY Fight Captain America? A lot of people have tried their hand at answering this but I think they've missed the BIGGEST twist of the story. Yes, Red Guardian fought Captain America... but it was NOT Steve Rogers! Who was it? You'll have to watch to find out!
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  • @deathsyth8888
    @deathsyth8888 2 роки тому +5409

    He fought "A" Captain America, not "The" Captain America. So he was technically correct. The best kind of correct. Unless he made it all up for Russian prison cred and then went delusional believing his own lies.

    • @nickhouser3988
      @nickhouser3988 2 роки тому +45

      I see that futurism a reference lmao

    • @xXLiLJokerXx
      @xXLiLJokerXx 2 роки тому +59

      What if he fought Bradley as cap America

    • @fatpotato317
      @fatpotato317 2 роки тому +22

      Ok off topic but can y’all stop putting bob links to vids in other comments there’s 2 all ready it’s annoying

    • @dreeg1896
      @dreeg1896 2 роки тому +16

      He’s correct by default. His favorite way to be correct!

    • @DoodleGauge
      @DoodleGauge 2 роки тому +19

      could have been the real cap since he went back in time to be with peggy and he did turn up as an old man at the end of endgame so it make sense

  • @Irrationaaaaal
    @Irrationaaaaal 2 роки тому +1938

    I thought the payoff would be a moment when Alexi was fighting Taskmaster: Alexi realizes that Taskmaster is using some of caps moves, and does exactly what he says in the story (grabs shield, pushes him out the window)

    • @kchgamer1788
      @kchgamer1788 2 роки тому +167

      EXACTLY!!!!!! How was that not done!!!!

    • @mayle2010
      @mayle2010 2 роки тому +81

      That definitely would have been cool!!

    • @gamedifficulty_4230
      @gamedifficulty_4230 2 роки тому +78

      He DOES get to throw the shield, albeit he messes it up

    • @youreaverageguy3123
      @youreaverageguy3123 2 роки тому +4

      Bunger ;)

    • @Irrationaaaaal
      @Irrationaaaaal 2 роки тому +3

      @@youreaverageguy3123 [bot_reactive]
      Indeed, Bunger

  • @EverythingIsLit
    @EverythingIsLit 2 роки тому +223

    That intro was awesome. My favorite part was when Steph proves she loves MatPat because otherwise she wouldn't have been able to get the Soul Stone by sacrificing him otherwise

  • @lightdiamond7035
    @lightdiamond7035 2 роки тому +2217

    The fight between captain America and the red guardian could’ve actually happened because in endgame when cap went back in time to put the infinity stones back he went to go live his life and maybe during 1983-1984 the one we know as Old man cap may have actually fought The red Guardian while the other captain America was still frozen in ice

    • @jonyenchek3483
      @jonyenchek3483 2 роки тому +35

      yeah i was thinking that too

    • @shawn980
      @shawn980 2 роки тому +139

      No because going back in time doesn’t change the present, remember?

    • @jonyenchek3483
      @jonyenchek3483 2 роки тому +4

      hhhmmmmm

    • @iWreckzombies
      @iWreckzombies 2 роки тому +125

      @@shawn980 but old cap still shows up in Avengers Endgame so maybe it’s the same kind of loophole or time travel mix up that happened there

    • @anonomous1358
      @anonomous1358 2 роки тому +7

      I was thinking the same thing.

  • @Phuskooz
    @Phuskooz 2 роки тому +907

    I really liked the scene where the Red Guardian is struggling to put on his suit because THE DUDE IS A SUPER SOLDIER USING SUPER STRENGTH and *he’s still struggling!!*

    • @omegadeadpool2947
      @omegadeadpool2947 2 роки тому +98

      On one side, he didn't want to tear his suit off

    • @ChadWSmith
      @ChadWSmith 2 роки тому +52

      That means it's a well-made suit

    • @Galaxies3000
      @Galaxies3000 2 роки тому +34

      Cut him some slack, he also had SUPER FATNESS

    • @guccifer764
      @guccifer764 2 роки тому +30

      Well, use too much strength and it’ll just rip. It takes finesse

    • @sauriers-rexusdiscordytcha6704
      @sauriers-rexusdiscordytcha6704 2 роки тому +5

      well he also struggled with closing the door of the CHOPPER

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 2 роки тому +8248

    Red Guardian: I wanna fight captain America
    Steve: *Still frozen in ice*
    William Burnside: "Fine I'll do it myself"

    • @mynameisjoedahand3008
      @mynameisjoedahand3008 2 роки тому +63

      Even though you're better than OwO, your comment still makes no sense =/

    • @PurooRoy
      @PurooRoy 2 роки тому +16

      That's not how this meme is used.

    • @KonradCurves
      @KonradCurves 2 роки тому +32

      Yeah but the captain America' who went back in time isn't. Two caps in the same place. One frozen and one living with Peggy

    • @444angelitaa
      @444angelitaa 2 роки тому +2

      @Junxi Liu yeah it’s jellal

    • @vivianigiehon8194
      @vivianigiehon8194 2 роки тому +4

      We meet again

  • @chloes.3107
    @chloes.3107 2 роки тому +641

    Perhaps a mini theory on Widow’s mother? That plot point regarding her being a feisty woman who looked for her child relentlessly, before eventually dying and getting buried under a supposed tree (?), never really paid off. Or maybe I’m just crazy.

    • @wowie_206
      @wowie_206 2 роки тому +86

      One thing I noticed is that in the post credits scene Natasha was buried under a blossom tree, just like her mother. That isn't really a theory but it is something to think about.

    • @RYAN_KID
      @RYAN_KID 2 роки тому +17

      It could be the blossom tree natasha was burried under but conspiracy inside the conspiracy it could be the tree outside the shack (maybe where natasha and her family live) in the falcon and the winter soldier most likely the one the they practice on by throwing the shield at it ???? Who knows

    • @Aro7241
      @Aro7241 2 роки тому +37

      @@RYAN_KID It's just a memorial kinda grave right? We know her body's not actually buried there

    • @judythepengu6158
      @judythepengu6158 2 роки тому +6

      @@Aro7241 unless cap went and idk retried her dead body, it's on vormir still

  • @da1king0fwakanda56
    @da1king0fwakanda56 2 роки тому +182

    Red Guardian may have fought Steve after he went back in time at the end of Endgame. Remember when the Russo Bros said Old-man Steve was at Peggy’s funeral? That means he could’ve fought Alexi in 83-84.

    • @cheeseman-qi8fp
      @cheeseman-qi8fp 2 роки тому +11

      He would’ve been 70

    • @mastercollectortcg9411
      @mastercollectortcg9411 Рік тому +2

      @@cheeseman-qi8fp more like 170

    • @castynscott4394
      @castynscott4394 Рік тому

      The Russo brothers are stupid and didn’t even pay attention to their own script bc that is not how time travel works

  • @neonbunnies9596
    @neonbunnies9596 2 роки тому +753

    The Red Guardian was cheated in this movie. Like every fight scene with the Red Guardian is either for comedic effect for cuts away for anything interesting happens

    • @havenvoorhees4687
      @havenvoorhees4687 2 роки тому +31

      Big agree

    • @edwardrichtofen8530
      @edwardrichtofen8530 2 роки тому +30

      Honestly, I thought this line was used to show how stupid he was since it was obvious he couldnt have fought captain america.

    • @crusadr_4966
      @crusadr_4966 2 роки тому +24

      Massive agree. They did my red boy bad

    • @edwardrichtofen8530
      @edwardrichtofen8530 2 роки тому +27

      @@crusadr_4966 he just wasnt allowed to be anything but the goofy comedic relief character and was constantly played off as stupid.

    • @edwardrichtofen8530
      @edwardrichtofen8530 2 роки тому +1

      @🔥Darth Dämon🎃 and like john Walker who was forced to be evil bad guy by the plot.

  • @arachnaphobicpal6873
    @arachnaphobicpal6873 2 роки тому +829

    *does dramatic pose*
    Yelena:
    " *ugh that was disgusting-* "

  • @cosmicnick4186
    @cosmicnick4186 2 роки тому +42

    William Burnsides’ origin sounds very similar to the Reverse Flash. Both had an obsession with a hero they idolized and while researching their hero found a means to gain the same powers as them. In one iteration, Eobard Thawne goes through surgery to look like Barry Allen in the same way Burnside does when trying to be Captain America. Both eventually fight their former hero as well. Very similar stories it seems.

  • @ORProductionss
    @ORProductionss 2 роки тому +71

    The intro matpat’s wife should be happy she wasn’t chosen to die, if only he threw the coke and bought another one afterwards

    • @sgwolfgang4349
      @sgwolfgang4349 2 роки тому +6

      I mean I'm pretty sure the idea is that if he chooses the coke he can never drink any coke again

    • @ORProductionss
      @ORProductionss 2 роки тому +2

      @@sgwolfgang4349 , well maybe he could switch to Gatorade lol

    • @thequeenofmemesandroblox7817
      @thequeenofmemesandroblox7817 2 роки тому +2

      @@ORProductionss Or pepsi

  • @reahmelino7905
    @reahmelino7905 2 роки тому +1644

    The scene between Diet Coke and Stef seems realistic, its the best mini scene I've seen so far on the three channels.

    • @GHR662
      @GHR662 2 роки тому +14

      Diet coke

    • @thunderpray4701
      @thunderpray4701 2 роки тому +6

      Ok

    • @dungeonsdungeonsandmoredun2177
      @dungeonsdungeonsandmoredun2177 2 роки тому +28

      Is it just me or was her acting a little too good ykm

    • @tinotendagutsa466
      @tinotendagutsa466 2 роки тому +10

      Am I the only one who always smiles co Stef so pretty and Matt probably says this every day ???🥺

    • @ajhurtado9808
      @ajhurtado9808 2 роки тому +25

      The fact that Steph just tosses Matt over the edge still shows she loves him
      But still poor matt-

  • @letstalkfiction5187
    @letstalkfiction5187 2 роки тому +625

    The best part of this movie was the “this would be the best way to die” during the avalanche prison break and “this would be the worst way to die” when her head was about to get cut open.

    • @sion8
      @sion8 2 роки тому +17

      She said “coolest” not “best” way to die.

    • @squidking762
      @squidking762 2 роки тому +7

      @@sion8 Not a big difference, but yeah

    • @obsidionwarrior1343
      @obsidionwarrior1343 2 роки тому +17

      @@squidking762 I would consider there to be a big difference between "coolest" and "best". Going out in a huge avalanche may seem like a cool way to die, but could be very painful and if you survive the initial wave you could be buried for a long time slowly dying- not the best way to die.
      Cool is a lot more subjective than best, although best can be an opinion. I could consider being burned to death to be a cool way to die, but it would certainly not be a good way to die, and definitely not the best way to die.

    • @Aisha_Luv
      @Aisha_Luv 2 роки тому +3

      She said "cool"
      And "this is a much less cool way to die..."

    • @doge_loord808
      @doge_loord808 2 роки тому

      @@obsidionwarrior1343 Jesus bro

  • @irongorillafederation1082
    @irongorillafederation1082 2 роки тому +33

    Um "You calling me a liar URSA" as in Soviet Hulk Ursa Major.... really Mat missed that. Also haven't read it but could Burnside be a reference to the Union general Robert Burnside?

  • @tr0n4556
    @tr0n4556 3 місяці тому +2

    coming back to this video just 2 years later really does show just how much hope there was in the MCU. how times have changed... pre-covid MCU and and post-covid MCU aren't the same animal.

  • @ninja_of_light_5801
    @ninja_of_light_5801 2 роки тому +1789

    Wait. Another theory: What if he did fight Rogers, just not the one frozen in ice. Remember when he went back in time to put back all the infinity stones? Then he stayed in that time getting back the life he lost. Maybe he did have a run in with Alexi. Just something I thought.
    Edit: Did not think this would get so popular. This was just something I thought up really quickly for people to think about and now there are so many theories being made.

    • @ninja_of_light_5801
      @ninja_of_light_5801 2 роки тому +155

      @@Chkprofilename Do not post this on my comment.

    • @PurooRoy
      @PurooRoy 2 роки тому +90

      He returned the stones and went back to 1945 as shown in the end. In the 60s he was no longer in his prime and he had also learnt a lot from the future so obviously he won't go around fighting Red Guardian.

    • @Sly-Moose
      @Sly-Moose 2 роки тому +25

      That's what I was saying! Can't believe MatPat didn't realise that! 🤦

    • @ninja_of_light_5801
      @ninja_of_light_5801 2 роки тому +111

      @@PurooRoy Well Steve does age slower than normal people. And maybe the run in was accidental, we don't know what Steve was up to.
      I'm not saying I'm right, I'm just saying it's something to think about.

    • @Gungelion
      @Gungelion 2 роки тому +42

      I was Going to say Something similar. Except what if Steve's journey through time wasn't so simple? whatever for one reason or another he ended up in various time periods on his journey to return the infinity Stones? heck, maybe he ended up encountering kang And had to fight Him across time.

  • @PCENES
    @PCENES 2 роки тому +744

    Marvel Writers who put that in as a joke: "write that down, WRITE THAT DOWN!"

    • @TheGabrielryu
      @TheGabrielryu 2 роки тому +36

      "it's so good when internet fans do your work for free"

    • @largeshark9021
      @largeshark9021 2 роки тому +9

      They know the material just as well or better than the internet nerds, but they won't create their own stuff, making it much easier to path between their ideas, plus they can see what kind of thoughts people are having to set up twists

    • @rasheedghneim2197
      @rasheedghneim2197 2 роки тому +1

      CHARLES THE FRENCH REFERENCE LMAO 🤣 🤣 🤣

    • @manavkhandurie3591
      @manavkhandurie3591 2 роки тому

      It's a decoy just like how wakanda,medrapor, Atlantis showed up on a map in Iron man 2 yrs before they were introduced and Atlantis is yet to be introduced 😂 if they choose to do that

  • @Keenath
    @Keenath 2 роки тому +9

    Well, the payoff to Alexei's stories about fighting Cap was the fight with Taskmaster, who was mirroring Cap's moves, so Alexei got to finally have his fight with Captain America -- at least by proxy. But it's still weird that he asks Nat if Cap ever talks about Red Guardian, because if he was just making up stories he'd KNOW he'd never actually met Cap and there's no way Cap would be aware of him.

  • @trevynlane8094
    @trevynlane8094 2 роки тому +6

    I like this theory, it makes a lot of sense. Red Guardian would probably be very upset to find out that he fought a fake Cap.

  • @bennusmagnus5277
    @bennusmagnus5277 2 роки тому +193

    Burnside's decent into evil makes perfect sense when you remember what the serum does. "Good becomes great, bad becomes worse." This guy was real bad before the serum.

    • @ywoyiakuelwywpfnd
      @ywoyiakuelwywpfnd 2 роки тому +1

      My only problem with it would be that, us agent is basically just evil cap, obviously he's good or and anti hero now, but it seems very similar especially since it's was done recently so I don't think we'll see him for a while.

    • @bobbysworld281995
      @bobbysworld281995 2 роки тому +11

      @@ywoyiakuelwywpfnd John was just fucked in the head unless he gets his good priorities straight. Burnside is different.

    • @carnage3814
      @carnage3814 2 роки тому +2

      I think that same phrase works for symbiotes also just like carnage's original story when Eddie left prison and a piece of Venom was left in the jail and that same piece bonded with the other guy who was with Eddie and that same piece of Venom became a worse symbiote just bcuz that other guy was also worse than Eddie

    • @andrewjohnson6716
      @andrewjohnson6716 2 роки тому +8

      Burnside went “bad” because canonically in Marvel Comics the Super Soldier Serum has to be stabilized with “Vita-Rays” or the recipient will go psychotic. Erskine kept the technology of vita-rays (a purposely nonsense term he made up to hide their nature) in his head never committing it to paper, so it died with him. We can see from the transformation scene in First Avenger (and from the fact that every other recipient has mental problems) that the MCU kept this concept. (Side note: Isiah Bradley was the only SSS recipient who was strong-willed enough to not go mad without the vita-ray treatment, but he did develop Huntington’s Disease)

  • @Lukashallow
    @Lukashallow 2 роки тому +363

    *gets pushed down to death for souls stone”
    Matpat: “Still thirstyyyyyyyyyyyy”

  • @devviebcwhynot8185
    @devviebcwhynot8185 2 роки тому +14

    I like Natashas back story a lot, it gives a real undertone to real life problems
    Natasha was sold and trafficked as a baby bc her family struck a deal that her mother didn’t agree with. Of course traffickers don’t (or at least I don’t think) want to turn young girls into super spy’s but it gives a good look into what happens when children are abandoned or kidnapped

  • @redstoneraptor8101
    @redstoneraptor8101 2 роки тому +5

    Was the pig suffocating scene something that was played for laughs? I was pretty horrified by it, and about to burst into tears until Melina finally let it breathe again.

  • @dontlookatthis
    @dontlookatthis 2 роки тому +280

    Let's be honest when he asked if Captain America talked about him it seemed like a genuine question and not a lie.
    Maby they could do a Winter Guard movie with William Burnside based in the Cold War

  • @haze5069
    @haze5069 2 роки тому +126

    “I want to fight the real Captain America, not some blue *imposter”*
    - Red Guardian, probably

  • @brandoncameron8467
    @brandoncameron8467 2 роки тому +3

    I'm exited for a What If episode cause there is so much he could do. He could point out timeline divergences, analize the specific episodes, even "Theorize" his own what if

  • @nightwave2k6
    @nightwave2k6 Рік тому +2

    My wife and I had the theory that Alexei fought Old Man Steve who got restless being Director Carter's househusband. We did some basic math and speculation and Old Man Steve was 78 in 1984, but would have been functionally early 60s thanks to the serum. And, he had a spare shield lying around, too...

  • @ggennaios2255
    @ggennaios2255 2 роки тому +207

    When Red Guardian kept referencing how he fought Cap, I was like “What!?” and figured he must have fought someone else. Glad you made a video about it 😁

  • @Ahbraxaz
    @Ahbraxaz 2 роки тому +331

    "Jesus, 10 years of my life..." that initial skit cracked me up xD

  • @kedrasinger9960
    @kedrasinger9960 2 роки тому +1

    good job for 10 mil subs matpat!

  • @T3nMiDGET5711
    @T3nMiDGET5711 2 роки тому +1

    I love how MattPatt just casually dies in the first 30 seconds of the video

  • @Vrex360
    @Vrex360 2 роки тому +671

    I feel personally attacked by this character's last name.

  • @kaixiong641
    @kaixiong641 2 роки тому +339

    "Jesus, 10 years of my life"
    A small price to pay for a soul stone

  • @sagacious03
    @sagacious03 2 роки тому

    Neat analysis! Thanks for uploading!

  • @comixamples524
    @comixamples524 Рік тому +1

    Also the Serum that Blonsky used in Incredible Hulk was driving him insane which is a side effect in the comics that happen to Burnside.

  • @britanimations2002
    @britanimations2002 2 роки тому +2378

    Okay but tbf if it was between diet coke and Nugget Steph I think MatPat would've made the right call

    • @Phe_
      @Phe_ 2 роки тому +54

      @Lucien Rose oh no way that’s crazy I’m the 178th like
      See? Nobody cares.

    • @isakjones5836
      @isakjones5836 2 роки тому +24

      @@Phe_ to bad it doesn't count dislikes or I'd tell you my place on your comment.

    • @bruhstop8499
      @bruhstop8499 2 роки тому +14

      I think he had a tough time because imagine if your partner loved a drink more than you

    • @guyinasuit8078
      @guyinasuit8078 2 роки тому +14

      @@bruhstop8499 if it was diet coke I'd understand

    • @thesovietunion5801
      @thesovietunion5801 2 роки тому +18

      technically there is no win for steph if matpat chooses her she ded if he chooses diet coke then thats his favourite

  • @xfakelucid6504
    @xfakelucid6504 2 роки тому +75

    The Red Guardian is so iconic I'd love to see more of him

  • @projectzorgo-robloxoperation
    @projectzorgo-robloxoperation 2 роки тому +10

    Hey Matt, Do a film theory about The Amazing World Of Gumball! You should crack what happens on the cliffhanger!

  • @tonyavant1773
    @tonyavant1773 2 роки тому

    Good work man

  • @alexxxxxxx6261
    @alexxxxxxx6261 2 роки тому +495

    As i do have a Soviet mother, I can confirm. Those accents are really on point

    • @not_very_neek5827
      @not_very_neek5827 2 роки тому +20

      Well, the side characters were pretty on point but the main characters were eh, probably bc the actors were American

    • @elijahpadilla5083
      @elijahpadilla5083 2 роки тому +42

      @@not_very_neek5827 A lot of covert agents, just like actors, can lose their accents if they're deployed somewhere for too long; telemarketers exploit this by sending their workers to live in Ohio and intentionally breaking their accents out of them. That at least explains the Widows.

    • @bh4vvy33t
      @bh4vvy33t 2 роки тому

      :o

    • @jadenyuki3138
      @jadenyuki3138 2 роки тому +2

      Mother russia

    • @Littlekoji-df1cf
      @Littlekoji-df1cf 2 роки тому

      Nice👍

  • @bladeswinton1224
    @bladeswinton1224 2 роки тому +520

    I have a slightly different theory what if the Captain America that Red Guardian fought was actually the Winter Soldier disguised as Captain America in an attempt to get the same launch codes but ran into Red Guardian who already had the codes

    • @PztWong
      @PztWong 2 роки тому +58

      So, it would be Soviet Icon vs Soviet Hydra ... cool

    • @muhammadHassan-kj1jy
      @muhammadHassan-kj1jy 2 роки тому +17

      Thats actually quite cool

    • @dimmadome454
      @dimmadome454 2 роки тому +35

      Ive been saying that for a while. Who hest to draw out Red guardian than Captain America? Bucky Barnes is so connected to Steve's run as cap that Alexei probably wouldn't look to much into it if he saw his face. He would just think oh its captain America...cool, lets fight this boi. Hydra also sent bucky for Isaiah to get more super soldiers. Alexi being a super soldier and having already crossed hydra, he would be a prime target for the super soldier/winter soldier program. It also just seens like right up their wheelhouse to mess with bucky like that.

    • @kinemod1252
      @kinemod1252 2 роки тому +6

      I have a different theory
      He lied

    • @Buckethead.325
      @Buckethead.325 2 роки тому +2

      If this is the case, then imagine if we see this in S2 and we finally get to see Bucky in his Cap Attire, wielding his own shield.

  • @releventperson
    @releventperson 2 роки тому

    good content and video i subscribed!

  • @thelg8064
    @thelg8064 2 роки тому +1

    Red Guardian: captain America we meet again
    Capt:IDK even know who you are

  • @micahsanjuan8637
    @micahsanjuan8637 2 роки тому +158

    Did we forget that Steve Rogers traveled back in time to be with Agent Carter? The serum allows for slow aging.

    • @93teegz
      @93teegz 2 роки тому +13

      Yeah I was thinking this too. Like he went back I time on that same time line and universe coz how else would he have shown up later old to give away the shield. Clearly he would have been around for the cold war

    • @sauriers-rexusdiscordytcha6704
      @sauriers-rexusdiscordytcha6704 2 роки тому +3

      @@93teegz maybe the tva swooped in and he was like i just want to live with peggy grow old and give the shield to sam and the tva was like ok but you need to follow these rules

    • @pkmoments
      @pkmoments 2 роки тому +9

      @@sauriers-rexusdiscordytcha6704 I don’t think the tva compromises. Probably was just supposed to happen

    • @KiraNightV
      @KiraNightV 2 роки тому +3

      It is possible that while he was returning the Infinity Stones he ran into Red Guardian. He specifically went back to do that and then retire. Even though I don't think Steve would just watch if help was needed he had to keep a low profile.

    • @antisyth7809
      @antisyth7809 2 роки тому +5

      Are you forgetting time travel doesint effect the present
      Only Doing something that not suppose to happen creates a branch

  • @Wolffman109
    @Wolffman109 2 роки тому +3

    8:44 Don't forget: Howard Stark had managed to recreate the Super Soldier Serum, before it was stolen by the Winter Soldier so HYDRA could make more Super-Soldiers. Not to mention, Wilfred Nagel managed to make the serum that enhanced Karli Morgenthau, the Flag-Smashers, and John Walker, so it's not out of the question that the government did have more serum created.
    Honestly, I really hope that this theory is correct, because other than Steve Rogers, Bucky Barnes, and John Walker, William Burnside is my favorite Captain America.

  • @dimmadome454
    @dimmadome454 2 роки тому +4

    I've noticed that too. But I really think it was Bucky in disguise. Who best to draw out Red guardian than Captain America? Plus Bucky Barnes is so connected to Steve's run as cap that Alexei probably wouldn't look to much into it if he saw his face. He would just think oh its Captain America...cool, lets fight this boi. Hydra also sent Bucky for Isaiah to get more super soldiers. Alexi being a super soldier and having already crossed hydra, he would be a prime target for the super soldier/winter soldier program. It also just seens like right up their wheelhouse to mess with Bucky like that.

  • @LightDhampire
    @LightDhampire 2 роки тому +893

    On the theory it's time-travelling post-Engame Steve Rogers, my problems are twofold:
    1) He was laying low with Peggy, not gallivanting around as Cap.
    2) old Steve at the end of Endgame had lived 106 years. (give or take)
    If he did go out in the 80's to fight red Guardian, he would have been 74. Not what I would consider fighting shape.

    • @jos6796
      @jos6796 2 роки тому +122

      I agree that it wasn’t Steve rogers based on the laying low with Peggy point, however he is roughly 117 at the end of endgame and looks maybe 80 at a maximum so I don’t think it’s unreasonable to say that at like 74 he could’ve looked in his 40s and that would be reasonable for fighting.

    • @uchihasasuke7436
      @uchihasasuke7436 2 роки тому +102

      to be fair red guardian wasn't in fighting shape in this entire movie and still flew up walls lol

    • @Balance1308
      @Balance1308 2 роки тому +46

      He may have been laying low with Peggy, but what if some circumstance forced him to don the suit one more time? There r a lot of shows where some retired badass has to go on 1 more mission despite promising never to go back in the field again. Maybe he did fight with Red Guardian.

    • @ethanspiess6581
      @ethanspiess6581 2 роки тому +1

      Old cap

    • @thecorrurtion215
      @thecorrurtion215 2 роки тому +12

      If Steve rogers went to protect someone because of circumstances, I’m pretty sure he would use a different identity

  • @cyannice
    @cyannice 2 роки тому +463

    Imagine if MatPat threw the Diet Coke... That would've been a disaster...

    • @neverendar1778
      @neverendar1778 2 роки тому +11

      But he has another cola to take it's place.

    • @mintymouths
      @mintymouths 2 роки тому +5

      @@neverendar1778 oh yeah there was that cola tournament on food theory, I should rewatch that one after this

    • @justatheorist.3864
      @justatheorist.3864 2 роки тому +1

      @@mintymouths spoiler: teeter cola

    • @LXW-Arts
      @LXW-Arts 2 роки тому

      What if he drank non diet coke and didn't say cut at the end of his videos

    • @morrigankasa570
      @morrigankasa570 2 роки тому +2

      Diet Coke is gross but if you enjoy it.
      Cola might be refreshing but p*ssy is more delicious:)

  • @beeto45
    @beeto45 2 роки тому +5

    4:35 red guardian kinda reminded me of mister incredible

    • @minekurtmininer216
      @minekurtmininer216 15 днів тому +1

      I kinda hoped he'd be Captain Canada

    • @beeto45
      @beeto45 14 днів тому

      @@minekurtmininer216 i havent seen all of the tie-ins; does he ever appear again? if not will he ever, in the future?

    • @minekurtmininer216
      @minekurtmininer216 14 днів тому +2

      @@beeto45 in the comics, but in a different alias, The Guardian/Vindicator

    • @beeto45
      @beeto45 13 днів тому

      @@minekurtmininer216 thanks, i read a lot; but theres an infinite amount of characters out there we might never even know about...

  • @RemixOfTheVoid
    @RemixOfTheVoid 2 роки тому +1

    That's me with Dr. Pepper Matt. The hardest choices require the strongest wills.

  • @maciejczerwinski1361
    @maciejczerwinski1361 2 роки тому +65

    Marvel writers who just wanted to make funny joke in the movie: Write that down, write that down!

  • @logan_M_
    @logan_M_ 2 роки тому +64

    I really like how mat is including Stephanie and more of the theorist team in the intros. Helps to remind the audience that there is more than just mat to these shows.

  • @rileykataria149
    @rileykataria149 2 роки тому +3

    did anyone else notice that he called the guy "Ursa" at 5:32? as in Ursa Major, another Soviet avenger.

  • @Steph737
    @Steph737 Рік тому +1

    "Still Thirsty"
    -MatPat

  • @estefanoespinozapiccoli7015
    @estefanoespinozapiccoli7015 2 роки тому +504

    Imagine a Falcón and The Winter Soldier Season 2 with this story and the appearence of the Red Guardian, it would be Epic

  • @marblethunder4323
    @marblethunder4323 2 роки тому +102

    10:38 Matt: "It gets a bit confusing-"
    Comic Drake: "Because Comics!"

  • @mitsuyuki-hime9879
    @mitsuyuki-hime9879 2 роки тому

    I'm glad to see a theory on this - I understood that there was significance of Red Guardian repeating about Captain America but I had no idea what it meant

  • @Hans140
    @Hans140 Рік тому +1

    3:03 “will smash for cash” what a poor choice of words

  • @Raghavsmalik
    @Raghavsmalik 2 роки тому +255

    The fact that this released on the day scarlet Johansen sues marvel is hilarious

    • @caitlinb2521
      @caitlinb2521 2 роки тому +40

      she sued Disney, not marvel

    • @Raghavsmalik
      @Raghavsmalik 2 роки тому +17

      Marvel is a branch of Disney and her contract was with marvel so

    • @Raghavsmalik
      @Raghavsmalik 2 роки тому +34

      She sued cause they released it on Disney plus and that was not in her contract

    • @dranzerjetli5126
      @dranzerjetli5126 2 роки тому +1

      What

    • @nicholasjarrett4480
      @nicholasjarrett4480 2 роки тому +11

      @@Raghavsmalik She didn’t sue Marvel Studios directly, she sued Disney. Marvel didn’t do anything wrong. It was Disney that released the film whilst disregarding her agreement with Marvel.

  • @EvanTubeGaming
    @EvanTubeGaming 2 роки тому +2276

    What if he fought the cap that travelled back in time? Wouldn't have been frozen in the ice then.

    • @susman3838
      @susman3838 2 роки тому +201

      Well there goes matpats thoery

    • @mompernl
      @mompernl 2 роки тому +225

      Wouldn’t he go back in time and create an alternate timeline therefore no one from the original would see him?

    • @IHaveAqInMyName
      @IHaveAqInMyName 2 роки тому +140

      Alternate timeline branch. Doesn’t work

    • @CasualCasimir
      @CasualCasimir 2 роки тому +12

      I like that idea

    • @faustandraemabulay5176
      @faustandraemabulay5176 2 роки тому +19

      Welp, its up to matpat to figure this one out because this kinda makes sense

  • @Skyzer2412
    @Skyzer2412 2 роки тому

    The voice acting in that cold open? *chefs kiss*

  • @kevinmoore4355
    @kevinmoore4355 2 роки тому

    Guys have been together for 10 years that's awesome bro

  • @TheDeviantDon
    @TheDeviantDon 2 роки тому +117

    So this is what I wanna know, since Alexei received the serum, he’s stopped aging. So how old IS Alexei exactly?

    • @sparemobius7430
      @sparemobius7430 2 роки тому +35

      I dont know if he stopped aging, but he ages slower for sure. Look at Cap in Endgame, he aged, so I imagine it is the same, just takes much longer.

    • @lorenzosteele2531
      @lorenzosteele2531 2 роки тому

      Ut picture is alucard and I just finished playing sotn

    • @hectorbarbossa4403
      @hectorbarbossa4403 2 роки тому +3

      Its really hard to Tell the Serum definitlx Slows down aging
      In Endgame old Cap Was i 100 something years and looked around 80 years old in The BW Movie Alexei is somewhere roughly between 50 and 90 years old

  • @robertquimby4033
    @robertquimby4033 2 роки тому +162

    I can see this being a payoff in the next Captain America and The Winter Soldier. Evans comes back but playing Burnside. Then there's a big emotional struggle with Bucky who wants to believe Steve is back but something seems off.

  • @pkmntrainerred4247
    @pkmntrainerred4247 2 роки тому +2

    3:12
    Me: THE EVIL CAPATAIN AMERICA FROM SECRET EMPIRE EVENT!
    Matpat: WILLIAM BURNSIDE
    Me: Who tf is Burnside?

  • @nithnmc
    @nithnmc 2 роки тому

    I know that this is kind of late, but I think that the thing you said about Izea is releated to the Syphulis Experiment which happened somewhat during the Korean War which was basically an experiment that tested if the race of a person affects the flow of a disease. This is most probably what they are talking abotu
    (sorry for my bad spelling)

  • @eggo-beggo
    @eggo-beggo 2 роки тому +70

    Hey mat! I just got done with surgery yesterday and I’ve been really uncomfortable. You’ve helped me be more happy while recovering and I just want to say thx

  • @LonelySandwich
    @LonelySandwich 2 роки тому +607

    "will smash for cash"
    why did my eyes have to be cursed with that

    • @longfish5174
      @longfish5174 2 роки тому +8

      How are you ever were

    • @zachariahjohnson3406
      @zachariahjohnson3406 2 роки тому +8

      Well, I mean, he meant break stuff, but I get where you’re coming from…

    • @TheHotBlade
      @TheHotBlade 2 роки тому +18

      ​@@longfish5174 Lonely Sandwich is a clout chaser who copies unpopular comments which then gain more likes than their original creators solely because of the fact he's verified.

    • @longfish5174
      @longfish5174 2 роки тому +7

      @@TheHotBlade ok ty for the info

  • @baked_potato_0-0
    @baked_potato_0-0 Рік тому +1

    0:28 HAHAHAHAH . Stephanie threw matpat of the clif . lol

  • @kashhusain8154
    @kashhusain8154 2 роки тому

    This is a convincing video. Took a bit of time to get to its point but still worth the watch.

  • @incognito8925
    @incognito8925 2 роки тому +122

    I’d like to point out that the 1984 comic was released in 1984, especially since it’s about a fascist evil dictator who suppressed differences

  • @orbed8296
    @orbed8296 2 роки тому +252

    Film theory: “We haven’t seen abomination in 2008”
    Lego marvel movies: am I a joke to you

    • @owyemen9367
      @owyemen9367 2 роки тому +6

      Wait there are lego marvel MOVIES?

    • @orbed8296
      @orbed8296 2 роки тому

      @@owyemen9367 yes they were on nefflix

    • @orbed8296
      @orbed8296 2 роки тому

      Until they removed it

    • @majorman925
      @majorman925 2 роки тому +1

      *2008

    • @paultoc2657
      @paultoc2657 2 роки тому

      Hi are you female?

  • @derekurbina7371
    @derekurbina7371 2 роки тому +1

    So this theory basically unveils the plot to Falcon's Captain America 3

  • @ClayGaming-zd7es
    @ClayGaming-zd7es 2 роки тому

    Probably the funniest intro I’ve seen so far

  • @kaiba5271
    @kaiba5271 2 роки тому +136

    Film Theory idea: Finding out SpongeBobs anatomy.
    He’s done many crazy things with his body, especially on the inside, like cutting potatoes and a record player.

    • @bubblemcnamara9863
      @bubblemcnamara9863 2 роки тому +1

      Matt needs to do this

    • @localtoiletstealer2245
      @localtoiletstealer2245 2 роки тому +1

      Also the Nevadan from madness combat, like, why do some nevadans from that series have teeth and some dont? Also, why do 2 of them have a full mouth???

  • @brenudo997
    @brenudo997 2 роки тому +44

    I always thought that the payoff for Alexei's stories (which, granted, this was never addressed by any characters, even Red Guardian) was his one-on-one fight with Taskmaster, who was using the shield and had several moves that seemed to be modelled off of Cap. Effectively allowing him to finally have a "real" fight with "Captain America".

  • @MrCrusher74
    @MrCrusher74 2 роки тому +6

    Can we talk about how captain america went back in time and STAYED!? So they definitely couldve fought while cap was working with agent carter

  • @biancaf3481
    @biancaf3481 2 роки тому

    THE INTRO WAS AMAZING OH MY GOODNESS

  • @marystringer4667
    @marystringer4667 2 роки тому +127

    And that was the story of how steph became the ruler of the universe

    • @OkKo-ii3ei
      @OkKo-ii3ei 2 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/BXHVDI2OZiQ/v-deo.html.

    • @paultoc2657
      @paultoc2657 2 роки тому

      Hi are you female?

    • @marystringer4667
      @marystringer4667 2 роки тому

      Ummm yes?

    • @paultoc2657
      @paultoc2657 2 роки тому

      @@marystringer4667 how long is your hair in centimeters

    • @TFGA_tFoMS
      @TFGA_tFoMS 2 роки тому

      @@marystringer4667 hey dont worry about him, he is an f'ing creep, I would like to report him but I cant find a section to do so

  • @Arcade_Raven
    @Arcade_Raven 2 роки тому +63

    3:03. “Will smash for cash”. Nice one Matt Patt ;P

    • @OkKo-ii3ei
      @OkKo-ii3ei 2 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/BXHVDI2OZiQ/v-deo.html.

    • @owyemen9367
      @owyemen9367 2 роки тому +1

      "I'm thirsty"

  • @memozatoti1739
    @memozatoti1739 2 роки тому

    The beginning was so cute . You guys are so beautiful together

  • @LolTheOof123
    @LolTheOof123 2 роки тому

    Have you made a video about what movie has the best cliffhanger?

  • @ethinwhite3454
    @ethinwhite3454 2 роки тому +83

    This is officially headcanon for me. I’m gonna try an elaborate on this.

  • @moai1212
    @moai1212 2 роки тому +38

    Ok that’s it in 2034 I’m coming back and commenting “Matpat, your wrong”

  • @asadelfadillah8008
    @asadelfadillah8008 2 роки тому +9

    14:32
    As a My Hero Academia fan, this quote sings to my ears in so many ways...

  • @Greggy1505
    @Greggy1505 2 роки тому

    I liked that intro matpat. Very funny

  • @meghansimpson7401
    @meghansimpson7401 2 роки тому +178

    Hey matpat, the latest ghostbusters trailer just released and I was wondering something. How did Gazer return when she was destroyed back in 1984 by the og ghostbusters. I was just wondering, do you mind if you can answer that next video with what we have so far. As long as you read this, I'm happy.

    • @meghansimpson7401
      @meghansimpson7401 2 роки тому +3

      Omg,thank you guys so much for the support, do you think he will make this video. Or is it just a dream. Make sure to like this comment and video, not just for me, but for matpat. Too. And also subscribe

    • @toonthopia5543
      @toonthopia5543 2 роки тому +4

      Hey matpat make this theory happen

    • @theparapsychologypodcast3387
      @theparapsychologypodcast3387 2 роки тому +5

      I would definitely make a reaction video on that, probably one of the best theories I’ve heard in a while

    • @peyotecowboy3199
      @peyotecowboy3199 2 роки тому +1

      Was she destroyed or was the doorway destroyed? Also the marshmallow man might have been just an avatar, not gozer herself.

    • @theparapsychologypodcast3387
      @theparapsychologypodcast3387 2 роки тому +1

      @@peyotecowboy3199 well you gotta remember, she was in the stay puff marshmallow man. And the doorway is was brought her. So they both got destroyed.

  • @Wolffman109
    @Wolffman109 2 роки тому +1

    Hey, MatPat! I hope you don't mind, but I'm writing an essay on how Bucky's character has been wasted in the MCU as of late, and I cited this video in it as well. It's a good fit for the subject, and it's a really good video. I hope that's okay with you!

  • @randallsheret8216
    @randallsheret8216 2 роки тому +2

    I know it’s an older video but towards the end of the film I genuinely think that Natasha and her sister trade places. I would love to see a theory about that. There is a fair bit of evidence to support it.

  • @dbb3videos912
    @dbb3videos912 2 роки тому +16

    he fought one of those captain Americas that asks kids if they want to take pictures in Times Square

  • @andrewdowns3673
    @andrewdowns3673 2 роки тому +506

    The opening with the diet coke was hilarious! You go Stephanie.
    Edit: Yall's replies are weird.

    • @MbitaChizi
      @MbitaChizi 2 роки тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/Cmp1R7frXWw/v-deo.html

    • @OkKo-ii3ei
      @OkKo-ii3ei 2 роки тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/BXHVDI2OZiQ/v-deo.html

    • @ryanharkin4964
      @ryanharkin4964 2 роки тому +9

      @TommyInnit 🅥 OMG REAL TOMMYINNIT! TOTALLY NOT FAKE

    • @charon1671
      @charon1671 2 роки тому +53

      it's my honor to be the first reply here who isn't a bot

    • @surgecentral05
      @surgecentral05 2 роки тому +7

      @@charon1671 congratulations

  • @catwhite905
    @catwhite905 2 роки тому

    U just hit 10 million!

  • @JoseCamacho-hd9zx
    @JoseCamacho-hd9zx Рік тому

    This was one of my favorite episodes! 👍

  • @artystamati92
    @artystamati92 2 роки тому +98

    Maybe he fought the Steve that came back to Peggy after Endgame? Given the whole sacred timeline that both is and isnt at the same time he could have lived on this timeline anyway... idk

    • @kxmuna
      @kxmuna 2 роки тому +3

      He would create a alternitive timeline if that happened

    • @erickhernandezcrispin9671
      @erickhernandezcrispin9671 2 роки тому +1

      @@kxmuna isnt the point of the TVA to delete branched timelines? So if Steve went back and live there the only way he could have done it, is to be in the same timeline right?

  • @Try-hard-emily
    @Try-hard-emily 2 роки тому +16

    THAT BEGINNING THO 🤣😂🤣

  • @Sir.Redacted
    @Sir.Redacted 2 роки тому +1

    10\10 opening bit :).

  • @adamabuobeid2050
    @adamabuobeid2050 2 роки тому +2

    Matpat should do a video explaining why Greg is still in middle school

  • @williamheath7058
    @williamheath7058 2 роки тому +89

    I feel like he actually went against bucky whilst he was he was in the shield base and just didnt know who he was and thought it was Cao and then lost track of time

    • @coins_png
      @coins_png 2 роки тому +4

      And the shield ?

    • @pjdianalan7934
      @pjdianalan7934 2 роки тому +2

      But the problem was Red Guardian at least knows the distinction between Bucky and Captain America.

    • @Thesnowyman
      @Thesnowyman 2 роки тому +2

      @@coins_png a replica

    • @williamheath7058
      @williamheath7058 2 роки тому +1

      @@pjdianalan7934 ture but hydra knows everything about everyone and probably knew that they had to make bucky look like cap or distinctive enough to the point no one would realise and go snooping

  • @RanDix
    @RanDix 2 роки тому +49

    When he said Secret Empire I thought he was talking about militant

    • @Tribalfan88x
      @Tribalfan88x 2 роки тому +1

      No, he meant the event where Steve Rogers had secretly been a Hydra agent all along, trying to establish Hydra World Domination