I couldn't help but wonder.... is SATC now a period piece? (season two review)
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- And just like that... I'm back with another Sex and the City review. In this video, I'm deep diving into the fabulous fashion of Sex and the City season two, Carrie and Big's fight and why their relationship didn't end in season two, the iconic The Way We Were reference, Samantha dating Blair's dad from GG and the Sex and the City and Gossip Girl crossover, Charlotte's barely existing character arc, Steve's gold corduroy suit, the infamous Judith Leiber swan bag, and many many more. But I'm also discussing cringy, and problematic storylines, which didn't age well like: the Power Lesbians, the 'is he a straight-gay man, or a gay-straight man' guy, and Sum the "servant".
00:00 intro
01:15 Carrie
05:21 Samantha
07:03 The Sex and the City - Gossip Girl crossover
09:19 Miranda
12:38 Charlotte
14:12 The Fashion
16:40 Things that REALLY didn’t age well
20:23 Overall thoughts
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what’s your favorite SATC season two episode?
Incredibly hard to pick. Maybe this one when Samantha dates Mr. Too-Big 😂
"you dated mr big. i'm dating mr. too big" 😂❤️
DEFINITELY The man, myth the viagra. I just love when Miranda first meets Steve.
"Sex and the Ex"/Mr. Cocky, lol. The whole episode was great😂
I do love when Miranda meets Steve
Miranda graduated at the top of her class at Harvard Law School, practiced corporate law and was a partner at the firm. Just the fact that she bought an apartment wasn't any wonder, in fact, with her salary she could definitely afford it.
Perfectly said. The only character whose finances did not match their lifestyle is Carrie. She was able to afford a rent controlled apartment in Greenwich Village, lavish clothes, and multiple $500 designer shoes while working as a freelance writer for a weekly newspaper.
@@Silly_u1908 Was she a freelance, though? I see everyone mentioning that she was a freelancer, but in the 90s NY writers used to have good paying jobs. Candace Bushnell said she used to get paid 5k a month in Vogue. That's probably a good salary for the 90s, right?
@@AmandaVieiraMamaesouCultThat a pretty decent salary now. That’s pretty much an after tax salary now after over a decade of experience. Taxes take a huge chunk. I don’t understand why millionaires pay less in taxes than me. Oh right, because Republicans work for them.
@@AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult It made sense for her to be rich after the articles made books
It's a TV show. 😮
As an Asian person, I find the Sum story line actually the opposite of being racist. It was precisely mocking the whole domicile submissive stereotype that was portrayed in many Asian women in Hollywood back in the days. In fact, despite hired as a servant, Sum was taking ownership of the whole situation and definitely getting things done her way, and I was laughing about her "revenge" :D I find it a quite smart and funny way to challenge the stereotypes.
I forgot how good the fashion was in this season that I’m going to have to rewatch it for like the 59th time 😂
that’s the paradox of satc. it’s dated yet it never gets old and it only gets better with each rewatch.
@@KasiaSopniewskaagreed
“(Sighs) Guys, just dont be like Carrie”
You got the point throughout the whole season of this show.
Or the entire series 🤣
Yes so very true
Darren star was so right carrie should had stayed single in the end
No way…she had many years single…I couldn’t see her as an old maid …she always loved Big
Darren Star was 1000% correct. Big and Carrie should have ended in season 2. People seem to think they had some grand love story and they absolutely didn't. Carrie acts like a complete mess around him and he honestly seemed happier and relieved to be done with her and to have Natasha. Who, WAS lovely and better than both of them and deserved better than what she got. That whole affair and the way she talks about Natasha, put me off Carrie for the rest of the show.
I've re-watched this series an unhealthy amount of times 😅😅😅😅😅😅
same bestie. SAME.
Always felt so bad at Steve and Miranda breaking up over the suit. On one hand, he should have let her buy it for him, as it was her company function. On the other hand, I would have totally been OK with his corduroy suit and maybe picked out a nice new shirt and tie to go with!!
He could have let her buy the suit or return it as he did, and explain he can't go with her at the time. He could give a few days prior to break up rather than this impulsive break up which he never realy want.
@@MsMinoula Agree. Even standing her up for the party at the last minute was rude. After returning the suit, he should have shown up in his corduroy one and said, “Take me as I am, or not at all.” But, yeah, they could have talked earlier about this, not right before it was time to leave.
@@moonbatt Yes, that is also true.
I wish Darren Star would have kept complete control, MPK has made some weird decisions.
Which ones?
Poor Natasha got done dirty.
And, to be fair, an apartment in NYC would've been affordable for a lawyer in Miranda 's position in 1999.
Samantha was the best character and she was perfectly portrayed by Kim. Love your video, and now I want to rewatch SATC S2 too, for the 10th time :D
That scene where Carrie brings Big the McDonalds food is the cringiest of the series. Looking back now I totally empathized with Natasha. Every time she turned around Carrie was hovering. In an life imitates art scenerio the actress that plays Natasha, the beautiful Bridget Moynahan, dated Tom Brady who broke up with her for Gisele Bunchen. Bridget was pregnant and hat a child with Brady, who stayed with Bunchen.
I didn't know thats how SATC was supposed to end. I honestly wish it had ended with Carrie being single and emphasized friendship over the terrible Carrie/Big relationship. And now the only character that was single (Samantha) is gone from the show :-(
Theres still a decent amount of articles of someone living alone being found dead and munched on by their pets every year. I think this was a "huge" thing in the 90s and early 2000s because we started having a lot more people living alone, a lot more single people that also had pets in apartments. And as satc kind of touches on it, it was kind of used as a "horror story" of staying single and not having a family to be there if something happens to you.
I had been looking forward to another one of these, and you didn't disappoint! :) I had known about Darren Star being unhappy with the post S2 direction, but never of the actual intention to keep Carrie single at the end - thanks for listing the sources. 'Just don't be like Carrie' might as well be the moral of the entire show as far as I'm concerned.
And quite honestly, of all the things in S2, my biggest gripe with it to this day it how Samantha of all people couldn't come up with anything else to handle the guy at the last episode… I really had to suspend my disbelief
Was anyone really shocked by Che? She was rude af and overbearing and crude. It has nothing to do with her sexuality
“They” were REPULSIVE.
@@Gemmarose9012 what does that have to do with this story being false?
This show is a warm blanket.
Love the Gossip Girl/SATC crossover! (It's more disturbing when you do an SATC/Law and Order crossover)
So unrelated to this season, but did you see MPK gave an interview recently were he said that the fans that reacted negatively towards Che only did it out of fear or shock and made him want to put more of Che into it? That infuriated me, because it completely writes off the legitimate complaints people had about Che, and Che and Miranda's relationship.
I saw that interview, it's called something like " michael Patrick king gives details of satc to variety magazine". I too was thinking what is wrong with this guy?? He took it as a compliment that people didn't like what he did because he thinks the 'shock' of what he did has made viewers need to think deeply, as if to justify his ideas was a hit with everyone, I was so confused at how he came to this conclusion???Shock doesn't mean it was loved? Shock doesn't mean people want more. I think the outcry sadly made his career for the next season with the big bosses. They to think shock means it was loved. So maybe he sees that as a win? Similar to how we have eventually loved people in entainment who shock us, like Madonna and Gaga. But seriously ...
@@thechronicreative It honestly just reeks of "This is my series and I know it better than anyone else, so love it or don't watch" egotism.
@@katemccrea6963 true
Nobody was afraid or shocked. They were not a good character. It had nothing to do with the character's sexual orientation or non-binary status. The character was really annoying. Period.
I totally relate to watching satc as a tween & being so awkw with the sex scenes, but I loved it none the less! I feel like satc is a very different experience for people to watch now not only because of societal changes but just the atmosphere... I mean there was nothing quite like seeing it on late night tv one episode at a time
awww thank you Emily, your lovely comment made my day!
You shouldn't have been watching SATC as a tween
@@MsMedfordOK mom
SATC is absolutely a Y2K period piece
What an interesting, complete and funny recap of my fav SATC season! Amazing job Kasia ❤ you made me want to rewatch it!
Why did I think that Charlotte's "straight gay" friend was actually bisexual? I know Carrie was with one who was, and it seems I mixed it up, but I really thought this guy was bi. I mean, women tend to get turned off by it like that, and I was actually the opposite, I was so annoyed how he was so perfect, and less of a societal definition of a "man" and they ** upon him so much. I thought: "If you don't want him, then give him to me." lol And that scene with Believe song was so epic, I almost fell in love. lol
Fun fact: His character also played the straight son of Robin Williams’ gay character in The Birdcage who was engaged to Ally McBeal!
Exactly, I think he was the one that got away for Charlotte and she wasn't mature enough to ever recognise that. She broke up with her over him getting scared of a bug ffs 🤦♀️
i love your videos !!! it’s a new take on the series with the analysis of things that are not talked about enough 🙌🏻 thank you ❤❤❤
I love your analysis, not only the ideas but the delivery too! Great tone, it felt like you’re really into the show, and I love your accent 🫶
thank you so much for the kind words
I recently rewatched all of the seasons.. and my only real issue as far as storylines is how weird they always made Samantha’s
what do you mean?
The crossover part was a surprise 👏🏻👏🏻😍😍bravo👌🏻
haha thanks! imagine brady and chuck bass as step-brothers though
That tame line was insane because Carrie was never wild she was afraid to be her real self because she wasn't sure she was good enough the wild one was Big. She tried to tame Big the entire show and movie and he did whatever he wanted and she chased him what is wild about that? That line would've been better placed coming out of Samantha's mouth over Carrie's.
Darren Starr had it right! I hate that she ended up with Big. It didn’t make sense. I got that they ended up cheating together… That makes sense for Big’s character and Carrie’s fixation on him. I think she liked the idea of having him when she wanted even though he was married, she got to tell herself she’s who he REALLY wants (even though it’s not true and so many women talk themselves into believing that)… But after all that to end up married and happily ever after, flies in the face of what kind of show it’s been that whole time.
Kasia, you and Kierra loves tv made me watch satc and I am loving it so far! It is so entertaining and I love your reviews!😘
I couldn’t help noticing in the scene with Carrie showing up outside bigs engagement party SHE is wearing white but Natasha is wearing black. Some foreshadowing perhaps 👀 idk if that was intentional or not but it was interesting to catch that detail
I really love this video. lovely voice, funny and such a calming video while I do my makeup. New subscriber here for sure :)
20:12 I'm not 100% sure if it's this season, but in that episode where Miranda is complaining about Steve leaving "stained" underwear around, the moment she first sees the stain, south-american kena music starts playing. I saw that episode once recently and that jumped to my attention. I am perhaps reading too much into it but...why? That's a very strange and specific choice.
Oh man, I can hear that music in my head. You are so right. Just my uneducated opinion
your channel is the only channel I watch fully on this platform and not put as background noise....
that's the nicest compliment i've ever gotten. thank you
Best line of this video “just don’t be like Carrie” 😂😂😂
I like so much the way you narrate things, and you also have a beautiful voice. Love your videos 😊
Evidently, there are documented cases of cats eating there owners so Miranda did the right thing by overfeeding Fatty, lol. Steve's suit was so wrong back in the day. It would be like wearing New Balance sneakers, haha. And that bejeweled Lieber bag was just tacky. Imo, even eclectic Carrie wouldn't use that bag. It was so gauche in the minimalist 90s. Those disagreements of opinion aside, that Gossip Girl crossover was fascinating!
Dogs too! When I learned that I've never looked at my cats quite the same lol
Damn not to be rude but I had never seen real life Mr Big before. Chris Noth he is not.
hahaha you are a savage Eve
Someone in the town I grew up in up was an alcoholic and stopped feeding their Alsation . . Then they were found eaten by their dog. I always thought the idea in Bridget Jones was taken from that as it's so unusual
that's wild! thanks for sharing
Bridget Jones' Diary which is a book was written in 1996 just like the book Sex and the City.
Love the gossip girl crossover! 😂
When I want to rewatch satc I just watch such videos and that’s pretty enough for me 😉
Ps. I like your ideas and how you speak, the sentences are nice 👍🏻
I have to say, Casino Charlotte is a vibe!!
Big was her lobster. I was glad to see them finally together and his passing
In the show was a good way for Carrie's transition.
They were both garbage people and deserved each other
No, they were terrible together
Their relationship is toxic
Funny cause ross and rachel were toxic too
Does anyone know who designed the dress Carrie is wearing in therapist waiting room? This is season 2 episode 13, where she meets Bon Jovi's character.
no idea! anyone?
Just love your videos ❤❤❤
I feel like Carrie always has to jump between big and aiden like gurl make your mind up 💀
Carrie didn't deserve Aiden....twice.
@@manicpanic3544 I don’t think she deserves big either
I really enjoyed season 2 it was a step up from season 1
I LOVED the Jean Paul Gaultier dress on SJP
Great video I really enjoyed this thanks!
Most beloved episodes are in this season.
I’ve never seen full seasons, just reruns here and there and I love the movies! I think I’m going to give it a rewatch. See if it’s was worth all the hype it got. And I want to see if it’s relatable as a single 30 year old woman.
I actually watch sex in the city every day. And I have all of them on DVD too lol
I just finished watching it for the first time😭💓
I think it’s great to say it’s a period piece and the awkward and bad parts in this series are indicative of the time it was representing (the 90s when there actually was racism, classism, sexism, prejudice, binary ideas of gender and general restricted ideas) I do cringe at some things of course, but it’s good to see how things were back then and to
see how things have changed for the better now and are still needing to change :) i mean Jane Austen also had to deal with a lot of this sort of thing, and there is a timelessness to SATC in the same way talking about very universal ideas set in a certain time period :) I just love SATC the same way many people do for many reasons. It’s just so much about the female psyche and experiences Xx
I didn’t think the caste system episode offensive.. I feel like it gives the middle finger to that “meek, servile concubine” Asian woman stereotype. It shows that she is takes her job very seriously, and she is his employee not any random chick he brings home 🤣
A period piece is a work made about events taking place in the past. SATC was made in the 90s/early 2000s and it takes place in the 90s/early 2000s, so it was never and will never be a period piece.
Yes
I thought period pieces are modern movies made about a different time .
Found this from Google:The concept of a period piece is simple: it refers to any type of film that takes place during a particular era or time period. This can include films from earlier eras like early 20th century films, or films from more recent decades like today's modern day movies.
So maybe SATC would be a period piece. 🤷♀
Charlotte? Are you in there?!
No, but think harlot is
😁
Maaaaan I love SATC so much, I have to binge through the boxset & films a couple of times a year 😊 Carrie's first email address (shoegal) inspired my username on here too😁
BART BASS
Yeah, that lesbian episode was so weird when the woman told her if she’s not going to eat 🐈, you’re not a dyke.
Like wow… Like you can’t even be friends with a straight woman? Does that mean that all gay men that have gay male friends are having sex with them too? I know for a fact that isn’t true. I found that odd even back then.
Omg... I always thought that satc was a movie
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I was a tween watching this as well. I snuck out of bed!
Samantha and Charlotte always had the best style. And they should have ended it there with Big and Carrie when he married Natasha. Things could have progressed naturally and then things could have actually been really good for them and then maybe big could have popped up somewhere at the end of season 4 and it could have been like how it was with the Russian. However, instead of the Russian it was Aiden and then she could have had that beagle argument that she yelled at him before she left her Paris. And then she could have married Aiden. Or since she would have gotten over big she wouldn't have never cheated on Aiden and the relationship could have progressed naturally and they would have gotten married at then to the show instead.
The power lesbian totally hasn't aged well
Yes .
I loooove Steve. And I see him as Miranda's equal, he is sweet, caring and reliable. However, Harry is the one I have a problem with 😷. Charlotte is WAAAAY out of his league and everyone knows it, and he's not charismatic like Steve, he's just bluh. He is a slob just like he says about himself, so I think Charlotte deserved waaaay better. Also I hate how they treated Steve in the revival, my heart broke for him 😔
Excuse me, were you actually watching this show? Harry is easily the best Guy in the series. He's cute, adores Charlotte but calls her out on her BS, he's accepting and funny. Steve, who usually gets heralded as the golden boy, is a man child. Harry is a man.
Maybe, I'm rewatching now. The references are dated and we're against Big now. I feel a little guilty watching it.
I’m glad she ended up with Big … I went back and forth with my now my husband…and we have been together 44 yrs !
MTM showed in the 70s, 20 years before SATC, that a woman could be independent and didn't have to be defined by a man. I loved the Big and Carrie relationship because of the actor chemistry and I love soap operas. In real life, I probably would have told her to run, run, run as fast as she can away fro him.
Imagine if a woman took over the show instead of MPK. Maybe it wouldn’t have taken such a sexist turn.
season 3 was when we really got the recurring storylines.
The cats eating its dead owner is common legend/truth. It definitely has happened but it wasn't some specific singular incident. It's like stories of someone getting a call from inside the house; it has happened but is rare, non-specific and used in jokes/media. Look at the Malcom in the middle clip "cats ate her face". Its also just something people who dont like cats say to single women who have cats. "youll be a crazy cat lady if you dont get married" "youll die alone and your cats will eat you".
So no, not a specific story as far as I know but just some common half truth that people say.
And Malcolm in the Middle:
Cats ate her face
Steve was not ugly, at all actually
Yeah I am that weirdo that never liked BIG. He just seemed like a commitmaphobic selfish cheater. He just seems like that guy that would marry carrynthen cheat with some younger girl. Just always a cheater.
I agree-they were great together ONLY when they were casually dating or cheating on SOs. Carrie was addicted to the adrenaline
The stories about the cat is about sexism AND how cats shouldn’t be pets.
You know what’s funny? the other day I was thinking just how dated SATC is now, and I mean that in a loving way. It’s was a product of its time, but it seems so irrelevant now, aside from the fashion.
Lol I never realised Donald Trump was in this!
Naaaaa Steve was okaish, but on season 3 he becomes insufferable, and I hated his insecurity on the suit thing, just accept you are not a provider in the conventional way and the fact your loving girlfriend wants to buy you a gift and can actually afford it, and if its that much of a problem, then rent a suit or ask a friend for one to borrow (which I believe Steve doesnt have any, since he stayed in Miranda’s coach for more than 3 weeks and he still had the audacity to start dating inmediatly after breaking up…..)
I think Mr. Big is so much better than Aiden. Big was aloof sometimes but he wasn't abusive to her, he was a decent friend and offered her $30000 when she needed money. Aiden was trying to run her life, flirting with other women in front of her super patronizing, and guilt tripping her all the time.
Big didn’t abuse her??? What was not introducing her to his friends and mom, not saying I love you after being together a year? I What was telling her for 2 years that he doesn’t want to get married then marrying a girl he knew for a month? How did Aidan try to run her life, saying he didn’t want to date a smoker? Yes it was crappy when he was flirting with Dan & Jenny’s mom from gossip girl at the bar but this was after she had spent most of their first relationship cheating on him with Big. In real life he never would have taken her back at all. Not only did he take her back, he wanted to marry her.
Steve is the best character in the show you know shit
Ugh it sucks when you're a Carrie and you wanna be a Samantha 🥹
What a lovelly vídeo...
that was her husband? no wonder she needed a guidebook.
That cat story was in wanted by men. Enuff said tbh 😒
Great show ,but didn’t want you talking through it all
The servant was an evil 2 faced woman. You obviously don't get it.
20:32. I would add that the affluent straight white man fetishizes certain women like Asian women in this way. I’m surprised people weren’t also disgusted by that character. But yeah, they often portray Asian women as trying to get their man, which really it’s a lot of gross dudes who fetishize certain races. It’s the same as people who have a “racial preference” when dating. It’s still racism. It doesn’t make sense to only be attracted to a certain race, eye, or hair color. Body type makes sense. That’s part of attraction. Some people like thin, fat, muscular bodies. Although I think some Asian women fetishize Jewish men. I worked with someone who heard a man was Jewish and she lit up. She acted like “ooh, then he’ll be attracted to me for sure”. It was weird. So there are definitely prejudices and stereotypes
If you didn’t like the series , don’t watch it
There is nothing wrong with any of the episodes in Season 2. People are just too thin-skinned these days, and honestly need to get a life. 😂