Hey Vergil, here is some support. Thanks for sharing your insights into the current flight model and giving us some nice PvP tips. I do hope CIG go a bit different about finding solutions other than slowing things down yet again, this is in regards to the upcoming Hornet Speed Nerfs.
HOSAS here: I've been questioning if I want to continue Roll on pedals or to put Yaw there. Question: Is Yaw wierd on the mouse with simulated control surfaces; reduced yaw in atmo? I agree foot pedals are less accurate, but do you feel that the demand of Roll-Aim would make Roll better on a left stick? 12:41 - Do you feel they will fix the F7A to fly like the F7C in atmo? It's kinda buyers remorse for the F7A upgrade, and I dont want to afford 2 Hornets. Glad you mentioned this. I thought I was just crazy. 15:48 - Under the radar because it's off the spreadsheets; It's planning for the human element. Love it. 20:35 - Thank you on the roll decisions. Thank you for making this video! Probably one of the most valuable ones. Really look forward to more planning/preparation/execution videos like this.
Also a mouse user here with the same pedals. However I use a Wooting keyboard with full analog input and heavy springs for finer control. I use roll for pedals and shift/space as strafe up and down. From my experience in shooters you want to isolate your movement fingers from other keys so you’re not fumbling around trying to do complex movement. This is the same reason I use pedals for leaning in games like Tarkov and PUBG. I’m using a Logitech G502 X specifically for Star Citizen. The bulk hurts my FPS performance a bit but the plethora of buttons allows me to never have to lift my hand (flares, target swapping/pinning, landing gear, etc) Love the setup, but if I were to get into something like racing or running a dropship I think HOSAS is the way.
Always love new info from smarter people & enjoy the in depth reasoning behind everything. Mouse I swear by my Logitec G502 X Plus for the extra buttons but yes she's heavy and yeah, that Deathadder is solid AF. Left side - am the weirdo who uses a Spacemouse on the left. Head tracking - none. I know I'm sacrificing a bit of precision for ergos with the Spacemouse. Unsure how much advantage no headtracking is costing me. Defo looking for ships that can hang with the Hornet. Santok almost but not quite there. Gladius with M cannons needs luck. Bigger fighters like F8s are nasty but pancakes if I can close. Bit of a problem with the game really. Balance is so DPS heavy.
I tried using my pedals for forward/reverse strafe but I couldn't handle it. For some reason I like a lot of precision on that axis so now I use the left stick with the return spring removed and just use the pedals for up/down. I like your thinking regarding the ballistic/laser mix. The next time someone calls me a nutcase for not using all laser cannons I'll refer them to this video :)
I loved the hardware part, well done. I am approaching that end-of-the-line with TrackIR frustration, I never got it to work consistently to be honest. Very nice HOJAM/HOMAS articulation there. Do you have Z-extension on your left-hand Virpil, or is it just a straight stick on a base?
Great video. I'm not sure if things have changed but if I remember correctly metas varied between the PU and arena commander. Is that still the case? Or is this loadout good for the PU as well?
In a duel if you got close and are in a turn fight like in the video, is power to engines the way to go even if you have a full laser loadout and your guns are dry? Or do you switch to weapons at any point then?
from the lightfighers being the pvp meta.. now we have the medium meta. strange thing is that when the light fighters was the choice, noone complained :))) On top of that, i think all the ships that arent made for combat like the razor and so on, shouldnt be good or a a viable pick for combat. it just makes zero sense. Balance ships around their profession not because its a ship with a couple of guns.
@@schlagzahne6741 big multiship being shit before this all. i mean in the previous FM lets say 3.22 and before you could kill them with an arrow. So it means the multicrew ships should either harder to kill. Or if armor is in, that some weapons can not even pen it, so you need other ships to do that job. And lets be honest, when the F7A came in some PVP people thought the F7A sucked ua-cam.com/video/LA68zx9y2Ic/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Avenger__One
If a fighter was a meta, it should be a heavy fighter. I'm also confused by a light fighter meta seen as okay and a military medium meta being bad. It doesn't make sense.
So I'm a laptop mouse keyboard scrub and master modes made it so my "z look" which used to keep my current rate of turn and speed now just acts like i let go of the stick and forward throttle. Any idea why CIG changed this and if there is a way to get the old free looks back for us not so cool to have the tobii eye tracker and bug fancy pc setups
....rip SC. The devs refuse to listen, and you are just accepting the space soup bullshit? Fuck this game, company, and community. If there's any SC refugees waiting for change...don't hold your breath. Try hunternet Starfighter if you haven't. Solo dev. Weekly updates. The opposite of this scam. GL out there....
is it sad that , the players base are so small now. that people around now knows who the other players are in Arena commander and its now like there are 20 match's around its most like only 1 all the time, I say that Swtor have more players in SC at this point and that game is old ( as for mmo ) it's mater of time before CIG needs to get they act together 1. AoC almost done with Server mash ( I know I know its not the same tech ) but it dos not matter if AoC can have 500-1000 players with out lag at the same sport people don't care what it is or what tech is. only boomers care, what matters is who wins doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, Winning is winning , and if AoC win they can sell the tech just like what Microsoft vs Apple back in the 1980's dos not matter how much they try to PR or spin it
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appreciate the video, after seeing yall in action during save Stanton tonight im here to take notes!
Roll on pedals is definitely the way to go, great video🔥
Hey Vergil, here is some support.
Thanks for sharing your insights into the current flight model and giving us some nice PvP tips.
I do hope CIG go a bit different about finding solutions other than slowing things down yet again, this is in regards to the upcoming Hornet Speed Nerfs.
Hey man appreciate you! Agree with your point and nice profile pic!
Enjoyed that , cheers 🤘🏻
HOSAS here: I've been questioning if I want to continue Roll on pedals or to put Yaw there. Question: Is Yaw wierd on the mouse with simulated control surfaces; reduced yaw in atmo? I agree foot pedals are less accurate, but do you feel that the demand of Roll-Aim would make Roll better on a left stick?
12:41 - Do you feel they will fix the F7A to fly like the F7C in atmo? It's kinda buyers remorse for the F7A upgrade, and I dont want to afford 2 Hornets. Glad you mentioned this. I thought I was just crazy.
15:48 - Under the radar because it's off the spreadsheets; It's planning for the human element. Love it.
20:35 - Thank you on the roll decisions.
Thank you for making this video! Probably one of the most valuable ones. Really look forward to more planning/preparation/execution videos like this.
These are the videos I subscribe (6) for. Gracias.
a video on your settings would be nice
I just had an organic experience!! Lol great vid!!!
Great stuff. Good to hear about your hardware and settings. Thanks a heap
This is good stuff. Very educational, i am a bit surprised you dont use two joys but i can see the advantage of a better aiming with the mouse.
I lile your aproach with that ballistic cannons. I'll definitely give it a try!
I liked the format a lot.
Six words for the algorithm bro.
I love the centre stabilisation setting on Tobii as well
Very good video hopefully no more head tracker problems for you.
Keep up the good work
Also a mouse user here with the same pedals. However I use a Wooting keyboard with full analog input and heavy springs for finer control. I use roll for pedals and shift/space as strafe up and down. From my experience in shooters you want to isolate your movement fingers from other keys so you’re not fumbling around trying to do complex movement. This is the same reason I use pedals for leaning in games like Tarkov and PUBG. I’m using a Logitech G502 X specifically for Star Citizen. The bulk hurts my FPS performance a bit but the plethora of buttons allows me to never have to lift my hand (flares, target swapping/pinning, landing gear, etc)
Love the setup, but if I were to get into something like racing or running a dropship I think HOSAS is the way.
more like this mate. thanks
Good video, I like to switch it up too using the m cannons and deadbolts for a similar loadout with more punch
Always love new info from smarter people & enjoy the in depth reasoning behind everything. Mouse I swear by my Logitec G502 X Plus for the extra buttons but yes she's heavy and yeah, that Deathadder is solid AF. Left side - am the weirdo who uses a Spacemouse on the left. Head tracking - none. I know I'm sacrificing a bit of precision for ergos with the Spacemouse. Unsure how much advantage no headtracking is costing me. Defo looking for ships that can hang with the Hornet. Santok almost but not quite there. Gladius with M cannons needs luck. Bigger fighters like F8s are nasty but pancakes if I can close. Bit of a problem with the game really. Balance is so DPS heavy.
I tried using my pedals for forward/reverse strafe but I couldn't handle it. For some reason I like a lot of precision on that axis so now I use the left stick with the return spring removed and just use the pedals for up/down. I like your thinking regarding the ballistic/laser mix. The next time someone calls me a nutcase for not using all laser cannons I'll refer them to this video :)
I loved the hardware part, well done. I am approaching that end-of-the-line with TrackIR frustration, I never got it to work consistently to be honest. Very nice HOJAM/HOMAS articulation there. Do you have Z-extension on your left-hand Virpil, or is it just a straight stick on a base?
the quick red fox jumped over
Coming soon Argo meta!!!
Is the Tobii center setting you talk about only specific to aiming with the mouse? Or should I use it for HOSAS too?
Great video. I'm not sure if things have changed but if I remember correctly metas varied between the PU and arena commander. Is that still the case? Or is this loadout good for the PU as well?
sOON
How I would like to drive like that
Razer makes probably the best mouse.
I agree for sure
In a duel if you got close and are in a turn fight like in the video, is power to engines the way to go even if you have a full laser loadout and your guns are dry? Or do you switch to weapons at any point then?
So that's you I figured that was an alt for someone
from the lightfighers being the pvp meta.. now we have the medium meta. strange thing is that when the light fighters was the choice, noone complained :))) On top of that, i think all the ships that arent made for combat like the razor and so on, shouldnt be good or a a viable pick for combat. it just makes zero sense. Balance ships around their profession not because its a ship with a couple of guns.
Oh we complained but more because a few light fighters were a mortal threat to large heavily armored multicrew ships.
@@schlagzahne6741 big multiship being shit before this all. i mean in the previous FM lets say 3.22 and before you could kill them with an arrow. So it means the multicrew ships should either harder to kill. Or if armor is in, that some weapons can not even pen it, so you need other ships to do that job. And lets be honest, when the F7A came in some PVP people thought the F7A sucked ua-cam.com/video/LA68zx9y2Ic/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Avenger__One
If a fighter was a meta, it should be a heavy fighter. I'm also confused by a light fighter meta seen as okay and a military medium meta being bad. It doesn't make sense.
I think most people upgraded to an F7A mk 2 and dont have an F7C mk 2 to use.
How do you find squadron battles I cant seem to find any?
So I'm a laptop mouse keyboard scrub and master modes made it so my "z look" which used to keep my current rate of turn and speed now just acts like i let go of the stick and forward throttle.
Any idea why CIG changed this and if there is a way to get the old free looks back for us not so cool to have the tobii eye tracker and bug fancy pc setups
any reason you're running the 2x s2 ball turret instead of the f7a mk1 ball turret?
Yeah just to avoid bugging out the vehicle manager. Once you take a turret off a F7A it bugs it out and you can’t get it back on
how to show the two lines side of the pip circle, thats indicating position of the targetet craft?
Boost for algo
No vjoy indicator?
@@CuuchCRUSHER yeah I find it distracting in real time, best to focus entirely on the pip and crosshair
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Why would they nerf the F7C the F7A is the one with 4 size 3s on it the C only get 1 size 3 and 2 size 2. Not even similar
They're both ridiculously overpowered, the F7A MK 2 is just a little more-so.
All the hornets are an issue
I will give you one word extra
god those nose to nose fights look so ugly, they really need to do away with that
....rip SC.
The devs refuse to listen, and you are just accepting the space soup bullshit?
Fuck this game, company, and community.
If there's any SC refugees waiting for change...don't hold your breath. Try hunternet Starfighter if you haven't. Solo dev. Weekly updates. The opposite of this scam.
GL out there....
ggs
is it sad that , the players base are so small now. that people around now knows who the other players are in Arena commander and its now like there are 20 match's around its most like only 1 all the time, I say that Swtor have more players in SC at this point and that game is old ( as for mmo ) it's mater of time before CIG needs to get they act together
1. AoC almost done with Server mash ( I know I know its not the same tech ) but it dos not matter if AoC can have 500-1000 players with out lag at the same sport people don't care what it is or what tech is. only boomers care, what matters is who wins doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, Winning is winning , and if AoC win they can sell the tech
just like what Microsoft vs Apple back in the 1980's
dos not matter how much they try to PR or spin it
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