Yeah I agree about AK: Endfield UI is the best, even the UI in their previous games, is very unique, very refreshing, starting to be inspired by other gacha games such as Alchemy Star to the game that will be released, codename: Cedar
AK really is the best when it comes to UI. If there's a tier list of events UI, I'd put Stultifera Navis at the top. And talking about events UI, they're starting to simplify the event missions section that makes it look so bad
From what i've seen, endfield combat has the potential to be very tactical because unlike its contemporary the game really discourage spamming skill off cooldown, which might explain why the basic attack feel so "auto". They want your attention to manage each of your party skill usage and position instead and determine whether to use it to parry enemy attack or break their stagger bar, not to mention that when fully charged your skill turn into ultimate that have entirely different property which is another layer of decision that you have to make mid combat. But yea, i also agree that they need to reworked how party member AI behave and a degree of control to their action can help. That being said, i genuinely cant wait to try it myself, the open beta cant come soon enough.
Very interesting insights and perspectives from the games with not too much doompost and bias, thanks for sharing an opinion is like this is valuable. As for the question, I'll definitely will try Endfield, been playing the og Arknights since release have high hopes for their dev team even if its a weird,unique thing I'll be down for something like that in this oversaturated space of genshin clones
33.11 About the synergy between characters You didn't mention elemental reactions (You might didn't have the time to test it I guess) But it's pretty different from Genshin When you use certain skills, there's a chance to drop an orb whose color is based on the user's element (blue, red or yellow) Then, when you use another skill on the orb, it will explode and do different things on aoe based on what reactions you did (you can have reactions with the same element like yellow on yellow) So, you have certain characters (like Perlica, the mascot) whose main role is to create orbs for their allies
I actually LOVED FFXII. Endfield's character design like you said seems a little generic tacticool, but I'm definitely curious now if the combat is anything like the gambit system from ff12
Nobody move... here we see the rare bearded Graham. I too think sprinting / running looks weird in NTE (based on trailer footage), almost as if like when you're running while you're dreaming. Also as a long time Waframe player (8-9 years ish), I really want to try out Duet Night Abyss, purely just to see how similar it is to Warframe, because most of the things you described are warframe-ish mechanics (outside of the gameplay loop I think).
Qte isn't from wuwa. Discharge is already in tof, far before wuwa for open world genre, nte just reuse what tof has. If we talk the og, qte is already in honkai 3rd, 2016 game.
@@prohanta9360 eh it feel very similar to general qte in games quick swap characters even NTE dodge has the sound wave that wuwa use to have. Plus NTE you can’t switch weapons at all so it fact they’re more following the qte system in games like wuwa or zzz
@@wolfstormwizard424 nte Dodge uses the same like tof, even the 3 Dodge (in tof you have 2). A lot of nte assets and mechanics use tof assets (discharge, perfect Dodge, double jump, even enemies's barrier/shield). Qte is already in honkai 3rd and it's similar thing with discharge skill in tof, wuwa is later out of the 3 (h3rd 2016, tof 2020, ww 2024). The difference is, in nte if you use qte/discharge/swap/intro skill, it depends on what your both characters elements that involved with the intro skill/discharge/qte, because it's not just "intro skill" but also trigger elemental combination which honkai and wuwa don't have
Are you familiar with Xenoblade? The way you explained Enfield conbat immediately brought it to mind, as I'm curious if it is similiar. Also you mentioned comparisons for Duet to Warframe, but you don't really seem to know what Warframe is, I assume? The way you explained characters and being able to use all weapons sounds like Warframe is exactly what they're going for, so I'm sad you didn't compare them further.
It's definitely very similar to Xenoblade, though I think it's a bit for action like. I don't have a ton of experience playing Warframe, so it's difficult to make full comparisons. I have been told by others more familiar that duet takes a lot of animations and gameplay ideas from Warframe, which is the primary reason I made the comparison
Graham does have very high standards which are whether or not it has a cat girl. It's been a while since I've gotten a notification from this channel, glad to see you guys uploading again. I'll be listening to this beefy video while I work on something so thanks.
The Endfield's gameplay you tried was from Alpha Technical Test, which mean there'll be CBT to improve the game more. And I agree that the character's skill mechanic is weird, the AI should just use the passive skill and have their Ultimate ready to use. But in gameplay, the only way to charge Ultimate is player use passive skill manually, for enough amount. Not dynamic.
For me there should be some mechanic that defines. Genshin: elemental reactions Star Rail: shields (either breaking or ignoring) Zenless: stun, anomaly WuWa: echoes (making it as if you play 6 characters) Promilia: pals (as in Palworld) So, we waiting what nte has to offer.
As for NTE i saw someone show synergies like having certain elements in your party gives you so and so buffs. It seems like NTE took alot from ToF but more polished and not mmo. Endfield has a later area that has big monster skeletons but the places i think are more realistic to a planet that is still being....populized? Idk how to say it, its not the main planet so it doesnt have huge civilizations. Wait your AI died? I was sure that the Ais had like dmg reduction or something? But i love the idea of the orbs and using different characters with different elements to proc different elemental explosions.
The thing with NTE is that it's from Hotta. Tower of Fantasy had plenty of fun ideas and mechanics on it, Mirroria was a FANTASTIC area, there's bosses with a lot of variety and minigames, the parkour was amazing, it had mounts (I loved the bike) BUT there were all sorts of broken things in the game I couldn't stop bumping into plus retconning the entire story (which was still bad and even more nonsensical) not even a year into the game to then the fiasco with the 2 versions so I'm concerned about those aspects here no matter how good it looks
Yes thats the issue with hotta games, are good with some things clóse to great but are so unpolished and so greedy and ptw(talking about tof)it really turns off players
you have played DNA's tech test and its beta in TGS? have you seen any changes made to it? like the colors, special effects, new characters, and new game mechanics? yes, combat is mid, but the characters are cool, but you really yapped about combat mechanics most of the time. yes, it is your opinion, but you really tunnel-visioned in speaking more of the combat mechanics and not the other mechanics and features. yes swinging your weapons needs added weight and hit impact, but you can't seriously just focus on that alone. yes you have spoken about skills and how crap it is, but then again, you are free to hate the game for that. what i want to know, as a gamer, is the new changes they made for the game, that made it better than the tech test. be it the visuals, graphics, difficulty, features, and other miscellaneous stuff. then again, you said that you leaved early because you got bored. it is quite a shame that you are the first one i know in yt who played DNA in TGS and was expecting more of your review.
The majority your time with these games is playing the combat and this it is the most important part to get right. It's personally the thing I look at most, so I wanted to let people know my impressions. If they can't get the core gameplay loop to be enjoyable, I'll spend my being underwhelmed, and not to mention I'll have little faith in the rest of the games systems.
bro genshin char is the five. zzz, hsr up there wtf you saying, only play the best not all but only say hoyovers dargalia lost and wutering wave now i thing about you creatibility
Yeah I agree about AK: Endfield UI is the best, even the UI in their previous games, is very unique, very refreshing, starting to be inspired by other gacha games such as Alchemy Star to the game that will be released, codename: Cedar
AK really is the best when it comes to UI. If there's a tier list of events UI, I'd put Stultifera Navis at the top. And talking about events UI, they're starting to simplify the event missions section that makes it look so bad
From what i've seen, endfield combat has the potential to be very tactical because unlike its contemporary the game really discourage spamming skill off cooldown, which might explain why the basic attack feel so "auto".
They want your attention to manage each of your party skill usage and position instead and determine whether to use it to parry enemy attack or break their stagger bar, not to mention that when fully charged your skill turn into ultimate that have entirely different property which is another layer of decision that you have to make mid combat.
But yea, i also agree that they need to reworked how party member AI behave and a degree of control to their action can help. That being said, i genuinely cant wait to try it myself, the open beta cant come soon enough.
Enfield is kind of mix of RTS and Turn Base like FF12 or Xenoblade kind of game than action game.
Its called ATB (Active Time Battle). Its good that a lot of games are making this kind of genre, Atelier Yumia is also going that way and I like it.
Very interesting insights and perspectives from the games with not too much doompost and bias, thanks for sharing an opinion is like this is valuable.
As for the question, I'll definitely will try Endfield, been playing the og Arknights since release have high hopes for their dev team even if its a weird,unique thing I'll be down for something like that in this oversaturated space of genshin clones
33.11
About the synergy between characters
You didn't mention elemental reactions (You might didn't have the time to test it I guess)
But it's pretty different from Genshin
When you use certain skills, there's a chance to drop an orb whose color is based on the user's element (blue, red or yellow)
Then, when you use another skill on the orb, it will explode and do different things on aoe based on what reactions you did (you can have reactions with the same element like yellow on yellow)
So, you have certain characters (like Perlica, the mascot) whose main role is to create orbs for their allies
Arknights: Endfield - Simplicity has its beauty.
I'm impressed you get to play Endfield
The queue is unbelievably long
Legs of steel. Why don't they have chairs for queues that long...
@@TheGameClub probably cause they didnt expect so many people
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So, developers of Arknights pushing limits again, trying to cook a mix of genres that nobody did before.
That alone deserves some respect.
I'm waiting for Arknights Endfield hehe
Endfield gameplay is very similar to Dragon Age games to be honest.
That's a good comparison
Feels to me like a more dynamic version of Xenoblade chronicles, at least when it comes to individual character control
I'm keeping an eye on NTE and Endfield for sure
I actually LOVED FFXII. Endfield's character design like you said seems a little generic tacticool, but I'm definitely curious now if the combat is anything like the gambit system from ff12
Nobody move... here we see the rare bearded Graham.
I too think sprinting / running looks weird in NTE (based on trailer footage), almost as if like when you're running while you're dreaming.
Also as a long time Waframe player (8-9 years ish), I really want to try out Duet Night Abyss, purely just to see how similar it is to Warframe, because most of the things you described are warframe-ish mechanics (outside of the gameplay loop I think).
Arknights looks the most unique. The others are following wuwa combat system like qte in openworld
Qte isn't from wuwa. Discharge is already in tof, far before wuwa for open world genre, nte just reuse what tof has. If we talk the og, qte is already in honkai 3rd, 2016 game.
@@prohanta9360 eh it feel very similar to general qte in games quick swap characters even NTE dodge has the sound wave that wuwa use to have. Plus NTE you can’t switch weapons at all so it fact they’re more following the qte system in games like wuwa or zzz
@@wolfstormwizard424 nte Dodge uses the same like tof, even the 3 Dodge (in tof you have 2). A lot of nte assets and mechanics use tof assets (discharge, perfect Dodge, double jump, even enemies's barrier/shield). Qte is already in honkai 3rd and it's similar thing with discharge skill in tof, wuwa is later out of the 3 (h3rd 2016, tof 2020, ww 2024). The difference is, in nte if you use qte/discharge/swap/intro skill, it depends on what your both characters elements that involved with the intro skill/discharge/qte, because it's not just "intro skill" but also trigger elemental combination which honkai and wuwa don't have
Oh shit, coming from the anime channel didn't know you guys had a gaming channel. I'll def subscribe.
Thanks! We are working on some great content for this channel so hopefully you'll enjoy both!
Are you familiar with Xenoblade? The way you explained Enfield conbat immediately brought it to mind, as I'm curious if it is similiar.
Also you mentioned comparisons for Duet to Warframe, but you don't really seem to know what Warframe is, I assume? The way you explained characters and being able to use all weapons sounds like Warframe is exactly what they're going for, so I'm sad you didn't compare them further.
It's definitely very similar to Xenoblade, though I think it's a bit for action like.
I don't have a ton of experience playing Warframe, so it's difficult to make full comparisons. I have been told by others more familiar that duet takes a lot of animations and gameplay ideas from Warframe, which is the primary reason I made the comparison
@@TheGameClub Thanks!
Graham does have very high standards which are whether or not it has a cat girl. It's been a while since I've gotten a notification from this channel, glad to see you guys uploading again. I'll be listening to this beefy video while I work on something so thanks.
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The Endfield's gameplay you tried was from Alpha Technical Test, which mean there'll be CBT to improve the game more.
And I agree that the character's skill mechanic is weird, the AI should just use the passive skill and have their Ultimate ready to use. But in gameplay, the only way to charge Ultimate is player use passive skill manually, for enough amount. Not dynamic.
Can't wait for duet night abyss
For me there should be some mechanic that defines.
Genshin: elemental reactions
Star Rail: shields (either breaking or ignoring)
Zenless: stun, anomaly
WuWa: echoes (making it as if you play 6 characters)
Promilia: pals (as in Palworld)
So, we waiting what nte has to offer.
NTE has Genshin+Zenless+ some more
@@cybergamer__ that's very vague. Can you specify? I mean specify like how I specified the list I mentioned, the defining feature(s).
Endfield: Building :) and tactical combat
@@SoulWhiteAngel as someone who only liked Clash of Clans for city building genre back 2016, YES I'd like to try Endfield.
@@nurusds3Your gonna start to automate every single materials in the game and will question the working spaghetti conveyer
Wait, so you didn't switch among characters to control when playing Endfield?
You switch when you use a skill, but you can slay switch with the F1-F3 keys. Good question
As for NTE i saw someone show synergies like having certain elements in your party gives you so and so buffs.
It seems like NTE took alot from ToF but more polished and not mmo.
Endfield has a later area that has big monster skeletons but the places i think are more realistic to a planet that is still being....populized? Idk how to say it, its not the main planet so it doesnt have huge civilizations.
Wait your AI died? I was sure that the Ais had like dmg reduction or something? But i love the idea of the orbs and using different characters with different elements to proc different elemental explosions.
Yeah my AI died and I had to figure out how to craft the revival items on the fly while playing the demo so I could keep going 😂
@@TheGameClub interesting. Cause outside boss fights i only ever see the player die when they become the character. (Outside enemies of higher level)
Gotta update the chibi graham. He's tony stark now
Graham with a beard o.O the hell happend
The thing with NTE is that it's from Hotta. Tower of Fantasy had plenty of fun ideas and mechanics on it, Mirroria was a FANTASTIC area, there's bosses with a lot of variety and minigames, the parkour was amazing, it had mounts (I loved the bike) BUT there were all sorts of broken things in the game I couldn't stop bumping into plus retconning the entire story (which was still bad and even more nonsensical) not even a year into the game to then the fiasco with the 2 versions so I'm concerned about those aspects here no matter how good it looks
Yes thats the issue with hotta
games, are good with some things clóse to great but are so unpolished and so greedy and ptw(talking about tof)it really turns off players
Wait i got to 3.0 and they never retconned the story
you have played DNA's tech test and its beta in TGS? have you seen any changes made to it? like the colors, special effects, new characters, and new game mechanics? yes, combat is mid, but the characters are cool, but you really yapped about combat mechanics most of the time. yes, it is your opinion, but you really tunnel-visioned in speaking more of the combat mechanics and not the other mechanics and features. yes swinging your weapons needs added weight and hit impact, but you can't seriously just focus on that alone. yes you have spoken about skills and how crap it is, but then again, you are free to hate the game for that.
what i want to know, as a gamer, is the new changes they made for the game, that made it better than the tech test. be it the visuals, graphics, difficulty, features, and other miscellaneous stuff.
then again, you said that you leaved early because you got bored. it is quite a shame that you are the first one i know in yt who played DNA in TGS and was expecting more of your review.
The majority your time with these games is playing the combat and this it is the most important part to get right. It's personally the thing I look at most, so I wanted to let people know my impressions. If they can't get the core gameplay loop to be enjoyable, I'll spend my being underwhelmed, and not to mention I'll have little faith in the rest of the games systems.
You rating games from the prespective of hoyo fans..... I see the bias loud and clear.
bro genshin char is the five. zzz, hsr up there wtf you saying, only play the best not all but only say hoyovers dargalia lost and wutering wave now i thing about you creatibility
Just quit yapping and get straight to the point
The whole thing is the point 😂 it's my impression of the games, maybe you missed that