"He made up for it later though, it's cool." >5 Triumphs >Conquered all of Rome and took over the senate >Got Cato to kill himself in Africa *Yup, he sure did..*
I would like to add that the offensive chants (Carmina Triumphalia) were meant as a way to remind the Imperator of his humility lest he would consider himself above the institutions. It was also the only moment a soldier could publicly insult his general. It must have been amusing to watch Caesar march under the taunts of his own soldiers.
@IngLouisSchreurs I must disagree. His videos are great, every single one of them, but this one stood below most due to the sanctimonious repetition of 'killing people is bad' 'slaves are bad'. Yes, we get it, we have brains and eyes too, the modern perspective is not relevant enough to mention more than twice.
@@PMundi Wasn't his modern perspective though, as he stated even people outside of Rome during this time found the sacrifices to be unnecessarily cruel.
There is the german saying: "Auf den Lorbeeren ausruhen." which means "resting on your laurels" Describing the unwillingness to change and hubris of victors.
@@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 we have the same saying here in Italy too, for us is 'Dormire sugli allori' and it's just the same phrase in Italy, we have another variant that means the same that's 'adagiarsi sugli allori' wich uses to lay and not to rest
Dude, your channel is gold. Cool to see you watch Historia Civilis too. Side note, in the trashier strip clubs in Mexico you can buy pictures of saints and the Virgin Mary for the strippers.
A proper death before the roar of the crowd, not in some dark forgotten dungeon. You need an enemy even a defeated one as to not make yourself the enemy of the people.
@@luckym1651 more than 350 triumphs were celebrated in the history of Rome. And those were not human sacrifices, just public executions. Romans didn't make human sacrifices.
@HanselManCan ok but hypothetically if a country does 1 human sacrifice while kinda wanting to avoid thinking about it as human sacrafice, and another country does 1000 while proudly proclaiming that it is human sacrifice, you'd be generalizing to refer to both countries as the same thing, but yes Rome did do bad things.
@@rossellalaface492 executing prisoners of war at the foot of your most significant religious temple is really kinda human sacrificy, even if the Romans technically didn't see it that way
Rainbow-maned unicorns are just horses with decorations. Elephants and giraffes are _way_ weirder. They're not _the_ weirdest animals, but they're the weirdest animals big enough for people to see in a parade. (Aside from a few cephalopods, but good luck getting them to march alongside the dioramas.)
It never ceases to astonish me that your videos , with basic squares and rudimentary animations (no critique), are so much more interesting and educational than any high value production video that regurgitates the same old facts we heard so many times before.
@@MitchellD249 Hell of a way to start what's supposed to be the best day of your life as a Roman, ain't it? LMAO. I can only imagine the fit he threw....
I just have to say that, every time I watch one of your videos, I am absolutely stunned by the quality. From your clear and eloquent narration to your simplistic yet clear visuals, everything is astoundingly well done. I salute you for your efforts to entertain and educate us, your viewers, on an incredibly interesting and complex period of history. So in short, thank you very much for all of the hard work producing and researching these videos, and keep them coming!
As someone who has had the opportunity to be in a 100,000+ stadium of cheering fans, I can imagine what a crazy experience having 150,000+ cheer for you must have been. I understand why triumphators needed reminding that they were only humans.
I love details like this. It really humanises the Romans. Too many documentaries etc just show the Romans as some boring, highly efficient military machine. Details like this really make you realise how human they were, they cracked rude jokes and used billboards to educate people on geography! Classic!
Lord Ashbury I totally agree. When I was in Latin class my teacher made it seem like most of the interesting stuff was Greek (which of course a lot of it was), and the Romans boiled down to military and statescraft. These videos in Rome particularly are great because it expands on that initially dry subject matter and makes it interesting.
@@midshipman8654 I have a book by Nephtali Lewis and Meyer Reinhold titled 'Roman Civilization, selected readings' - It is essentially a collection of random Roman ' stuff ' , everything from the writings on gravestones, graffiti, political advertisements etc. It's fantastic reading and really humanises the Romans. There's even advertisement for legal advice and people's craft shops! Some of it makes you giggle.
@@midshipman8654 Except the Pope was a thing since the Roman Kingdom... The Christians usurped the title when Emperor Constantine (who was also Pope) 'converted' to Christianity. Overtime the Papacy drifted from the Crown to the bishops (this happened in Alexandria centuries before it did in Rome which is why there are 2 popes today).
When I was a kid watching history channel, I always wanted more detail, but never got it. Finally years later we got a show with an amazing level of detail.
Now I know why in the HBO series "Rome", Julius Caesar had a red face during his triumph. I thought it was just the writers being creative. But, no, they got it from how the Romans did a triumph. Cool.
Although they had him dressed in a more decorative version of his military uniform rather than the Royal Toga. Since there were 4 Triumph, the sparing of Cleopatra's sister and the son of the last king of a Northern African Kingdom by public acclaim was omitted. That king (raised by Octavian's sister, Octavia , and whose stewardship was later transfer to Octavian) later married one of the surviving daughter of Cleopatra with Antony.
@Friendly Neighborhood Neocon sure why not? I mean there were also land vikings in the Varangians, so yeah there can be land things based off of sea things. I'm personally a big fan of my land boat.
On the concept of the color purple, purple dye was very expensive as the dye came from a sea snail. It was called Tyrian purple. It was so expensive that only rulers could afford it.
Kind of makes sense that Catos suicide was the subject of one of those Triumphs. Me thinks Caesar included this footnote for more personal reasons than mere propaganda.
Maybe for the next 'His Year' video (or, rather, His Year*s*) you could make one on General Gaius Marius? The Roman statesman who was Consul seven times and reformed the Roman military into the disciplined and uniform organisation we know and love.
It's horrific just trying to imagine being dragged along for months (all the time knowing you´re destined to die) to spend your final hours walking trough a cheering crowd, before finally being strangled.
@@Damptarmac The psychological torment before the sacrifice. The message to would be usurpers to Roman power in the provinces and beyond was "Resist and this is what will await you".
Given the amount of stories that survived of her i doubt octavian would have thought her memory would just disapear. The girl seduced and controled two of the most powerful men in roman history. I think making a example of her would certainly be octavians prefrence. I dont even wanna think about the things he could have done that would have ruined her memory.
I was half expecting this video to end with the "Still alive" song instead of the usual one. "...this was a Triumph" "I'm making a note here - Huge success!"
I'm always amazed at the level of detail you're able to talk about matters nobody else even thinks to cover, such as Caesar being the pontifex maximus, which gave him the power to regulate the calendar, which allowed him to perform his 'winter' crossing... Same with this video. Most people would say: 'a triumph is... well... a triumph, and thats about it'. But you explain it in such interesting detail... in short, my hat off for you, sir!
Every time the tune drops, I like to imagine Caesar pushing a sweet four-horse chariot slowly down the via sacra decked out in purple sunglasses, hoisting a boombox, and getting a hit off a f a t b l u n t. . . . I never said it was a logical mental picture, but there you go.
You're the kind of person who automatically got at least some people to like your videos before even seeing them, because we know the content is, like always very descriptive and fun. It makes us appreciate history. Thank you for that
Every time Kings and Generals, BazBattles, or Invicta uploads a new video I get excited and save to watch later. Every time Historia Civilis uploads a new video, my body enters a prolonged period of titillated rapture and transcendence. Thanks for the upload! I learned several things about Roman triumphs that I did not know before, especially the stuff about the route through the city they would have taken, including a stop at the ole Circus Maximus. Cool stuff.
I love this channel. You have such a great way of presenting information. Most documentary TV-Programs spend most of their time trying to "make an atmosphere" and raise the anticipation level to annoying extremes. There is so much fluster and bluster. In contrast, you just present compact information. It is so much nicer and wastes no time.
It's an irony that Roman writers despised "barbarians" who committed human sacrifice to their gods - yet gladiatorial games had their origins in funeral rites, and this ritual killing of prisoners at the temple of Jupiter is blatantly a form of human sacrifice.
@ Not wickermen as Sixshooter said, IIRC there is no evidence of the wickerman tradition as Caesar described it, but there is evidence with a corpse found in a bog in Denmark (Tollundman) that Germanic pagans did human sacrifice via hanging. Probably an allusion/honor to Odin who also hung himself.
Another excellent video, dude. I find the contrast between the civilized laws of the Republic and the - for the lack of a better term - tribal/primitive/rawer aspects of the Triumph to be very interesting - especially the strangling of the prisoners and the sacrificing of the bulls. Truly, the Romans were such a fascinating people.
Oh they are very fascinating, primitive indeed in quite a few aspects overall I think Roman civilization was very much a material one rather than a spiritual one. They put huge emphasis on presenting things physically, their buildings included. It was a very performative culture and very grandios. What makes them so fascinating is their success. They were able to continue endeavors over generations and kept some semblance of unified culture for centuries.
I believe there s an error around 13:30 There are sports arenas well above that capacity (i.e. the Indianapolis Motor Speedway) At 150,000 it would be considered the largest *stadium* in the world
Also, let's be real here, any major stadium in the world would be able to accomodate way more than 150,000 spectators were it allowed to ignore all safety regulations, the way the Circus Maximus obviously did because these hadn't even been invented yet.
The last two sentences of this video are the most succinct and insightful summary of Roman politics and the greater implications as to the power dynamic that leads totalitarianism I have ever heard. Kudos.
10:48 It still surprises me to see that ancient soldiers are still very much like modern soldiers. Of the few soldiers I actually know, this seems like exactly something they would love to do.
@@prestonjones1653 it's not exactly clear that the Romans literally believed in the gods of their religion, or if that was more of a symbolic thing to them
I've got some good news and some bad news. First the good news. You're going to feature in a parade to the cheers and celebration of all spectators. Now the bad news. You're going to be the sacrifice before Jupiter.
While your commentary on the slave bearing the laurel wreath is pitch-perfect, the pictures of reliefs you showed clearly depict Victories crowning the triumphator rather than slaves. Other than that, wonderful work on this 20 min-long video, as always :)
It wasn't a human sacrifice. No, no, no, you misunderstand. *It was an execution of invaders.* They were asking for it, sneaking up on the triumphator and loitering about on the sacred way!
@@lmonk9517 I think that's because it was made with this weird kind of dye that was made from some kind of shelled creature. I can't remember if it was snails or mollusks or clams or something else, but it must have been found first in Tyre, because it got known as Tyrian Purple.
google is your friend, the dye was made from the mucous glands of predatory sea snails in the Mediterranean "twelve thousand snails of Murex brandaris yield no more than 1.4 g of pure dye, enough to colour only the trim of a single garment."
Dude! What an absolutely amazing vid! I had no idea I was even interested in this part of Roman history. Very articulate and basic but very affective graphics. Subbed!
I can definitely see the execution portion being derived from a much older human sacrifice tradition, possibly thanking Jupiter (or maybe his Etruscan equivalent?) for good luck during the war. And as human sacrifice became less popular, the tradition was rebranded as part of a larger celebration.
Dude I absolutely love your videos. I nevered cared much for ancient rome until I discovered this channel a few months ago, starting with your His Year series. I ended up rewatching everything everything on rome in the chronological order playlist. Please tell me you’re planning to continue the story of the last century bc! At least until Augustus.
7:36 the thing that the triumphator's toga was all dyed in Tyrian purpple just for the Triumph must have been astronomical money buring! By mass, that dye literally costed thrice the price of pure gold. No wonder the dye was also called Royal pupple.
Well, the triumphs were still a thing, but very often, the Emperor, as head of the senate denies the right to generals to triumph and said that he won, even if he didn't fought. So it became a thing reserved to emperors and the generals have some less important rewards. Belasarius is an exception, Justinian let him triumph (and changed things in the triumph as it's not more in Rome and the Romans had become christians ^^). It's the last triumph of the Roman Empire.
@@pete9320 I found that Agrippa was given three triumphs, but he declined the three, not fool, he knew that he souldn't made shadow to Augustus if he wanted to survive ^^
Historia Civilis videos are minor highlights of my month. These are some of the best patreon euros/dollars that could be spent. Quality, at length, every time.
Having been on YT since roughly its beginning, it's nevertheless extremely rare that I thumbs anything up or down. However, I've thumbs-upped both of the videos I've just seen by this creator. I like that subtle pause, followed by the music at the end, because it punches home how much I've just learned.
Always annoyed me in strategy games like total war that the pomerium is never mentioned and armies can enter Rome to their hearts content. I think gladiator mentioned it briefly when maximus's legion would have been a declaration of war to enter the city and the only soldiers allowed were the emperor's Praetoria and citizen militia. I'd be surprised if the upcoming paradox game "Imperator: Rome" even mentions it. It's why I liked the original Rome TW, because Rome was its own faction and you were just a family in charge of territory outside its borders.
Loving the channel so far. I would suggest naming the videos (maybe number them?) in a way that makes it easy to see what goes after what. I.e. all the Caesar videos could be ordered in a specific way that makes them easier to watch in the "correct" (so to speak) order. Keep up the good work!
what would you say about the murder of criminals with members of the public watching on? as many modern states have this, including the US. After all, the Romans would consider their captured enemies to be criminals, we were certainly more than happy to execute defeated Germans and Japanese after ww2, is that not "mass ceremonial murder". The Gauls or other groups killed to appease the gods- the Romans did not.
It's quotes like "But I don't think it's going to far to say that this feels a little human sacrificey." that are the reason that you have a gift when comes to dispensing history to the masses.
"And I know soon come my time For in mine void a pale horse burns But I fear not the time I'm taken Past the point of no return. Wage war like no tomorrow Cuz no hell there won't be one For all who deny the struggle The triumphant overcome"
Fantastic video once again. Your music is so unique, and the way you construct your videos is just awesome. Thank you once again for your great content.
Did any generals ever include animals that weren't in the territory they'd conquered, like giraffes and elefants, just to make their triumph seem more important and flashy? Like, I can imagine Caesar and other generals who conquered parts of Gaul and Europe had relatively little in the way of cool animals to show for it. Maybe they wanna throw some stuff in their to not seem boring.
back then, there was way more dangerous wildlife, like the Bos taurus primigenius etc., i think you could find enough stuff. but i'm sure it had been done
Caesar had 4 triumphs back to back, Gallic, Egypt, Pontic and and Africa (notice no triumph over defeating Pompey since it was a civil war, with Africa king Juba had been the ally of Pompeians so that was used as an excuse). So he had changes of showing of all exotic animals.
I only just realized that while I'd watched your video on Caesar's 4 triumphs, I hadn't yet watched this one, so I decided to rectify that. Watching this, I'm not quite curious about one thing. What was Belisarius' triumph like? He was, to my understanding, the last Roman general to receive a triumph, and good lord did he deserve it.
It followed the basic routine, but removed most of the heavily pagan elements of the triumph. Belisarius went on foot, followed by Vandal prisoners (including Gelimer, dressed in purple) and threw gold to the crowds. Instead of terminating at the Temple of Jupiter, it terminated at the Hippodrome of Constantinople. The end of the triumph had changed substantially. The triumph ended with both Belisarius and Gelimer prostraing themselves before Justinian and Theodora in the Hippodrome. Instead of strangling Gelimer, he and his family were given a sum of money and land in Anatolia where he could retire. I think we can all agree this was a good change in the tradition.
@@Great_Olaf5 Would be cool to see a video on it, but we really only have Procopius' description of it, which is like a single paragraph long and doesn't go into that much detail beyond what I said. (the only things I left out was that Belisarius was made Consul beforehand, started the triumph from his home and that the Jewish Temple Menorah was part of the procession, which made Justinian paranoid, so he sent it to Jerusalem).
@@marvelfannumber1 Ah, shame. Also, I'd actually heard about the menorah thing before from the channel Sam Aronow. He does Jewish history, from the Jewish perspective as much as possible.
@@Great_Olaf5 Though if you want to see what a Historia Civilis video covering Belisarius would be like, there is a channel called 'Byztory' doing exactly that which I would recommend.
Similar to the tradition of military units being granted "freedom of the city" in Commonwealth countries today. I saw one of those parades here in Adelaide, Australia a few years ago where the local Battalion matched down the main street beating drums with bayonettes out. In front of the town hall a police officer symbolically stopped them and asked what they were doing. A soldier presented him with a document stating that they were given the freedom of the city and the police officer stood aside and the parade continued.
that giraffe was the most-detailed icon in this whole channel
hahah yet so much quality in such little artistic detail.
Pffft... The squares are *way* more detailed.
to be honest i was kinda disappointed that the animals weren't just big coloured rectangles hahahaha
Breno Krug i was expecting the same lol
At 14:46 there is a unicorn with a rainbow mane at the corner.
a slave whispering "remember you are human" in the triumphator's ear sounds like something marcus aurelius would have lapped up
"Orgasms stoically"
sounds more like a line from westworld....
ancient version of ASMR
@@jtgd "the friction of a piece of gut and, following a sort of convulsion, the expulsion of some mucus"
I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one who added it.
"He made up for it later though, it's cool."
>5 Triumphs
>Conquered all of Rome and took over the senate
>Got Cato to kill himself in Africa
*Yup, he sure did..*
Epic flex on them OPTIMATES
The Virgin Cato
The Chad CEASAR
It's all because Cato had to be salty towards Caesar. The Roman Civil War could've been avoided...
Tommy Dugan What
@@tofuuuuuuuuuuuuu evidently my pocket has been making replies to things... sorry
*Slave Teleports Behind You*
"You are still human, Kid"
"Imperator!"
-randome unit giving a response to your command in Rome Total War.
I mean you are commanding them so they are not wrong
Think you need a certain number of territories before that starts, so, accurate.
they say before you charge headfirst into a very heavy spear infantry
SETTLEMENT UNDER SIEGE SIR
I would like to add that the offensive chants (Carmina Triumphalia) were meant as a way to remind the Imperator of his humility lest he would consider himself above the institutions. It was also the only moment a soldier could publicly insult his general. It must have been amusing to watch Caesar march under the taunts of his own soldiers.
@IngLouisSchreurs I must disagree. His videos are great, every single one of them, but this one stood below most due to the sanctimonious repetition of 'killing people is bad' 'slaves are bad'. Yes, we get it, we have brains and eyes too, the modern perspective is not relevant enough to mention more than twice.
@@PMundi yap, that was quite annoying
@@PMundi He was just putting in perspective and setting a disclaimer
@@PMundi Wasn't his modern perspective though, as he stated even people outside of Rome during this time found the sacrifices to be unnecessarily cruel.
Exactly. We also know another example, Sulla's chant said that he had one testicle and that he thought it was funny.
Fun fact: I'm Italian and the laurel is still considered of grat prestige. When people graduate from university it is tradition to wear a laurel crown
That is indeed a fun fact, I did not know this. Thank you for sharing :)
There is the german saying: "Auf den Lorbeeren ausruhen." which means "resting on your laurels" Describing the unwillingness to change and hubris of victors.
Konrad von Schnitzeldorf we say that in america too
@@D00Rb3LL I don't know, how I wasn't aware of that.
@@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 we have the same saying here in Italy too, for us is 'Dormire sugli allori' and it's just the same phrase in Italy, we have another variant that means the same that's 'adagiarsi sugli allori' wich uses to lay and not to rest
"The gold was spent on prostitutes, if you know what I mean." They bought them flowers?
Dude, your channel is gold. Cool to see you watch Historia Civilis too. Side note, in the trashier strip clubs in Mexico you can buy pictures of saints and the Virgin Mary for the strippers.
@@louis621 I love Mexico so much...
I surprise to be sure, but a welcomed one.
The modern martial artist must be an educated person.
@@louis621 cool... the female entertainers have mothers and may themselves be mothers.
"This sounds a little human sacrificey." Huh. There's a phrase you don't hear every day.
A proper death before the roar of the crowd, not in some dark forgotten dungeon. You need an enemy even a defeated one as to not make yourself the enemy of the people.
@@jayeisenhardt1337 Remember when he said that triumphs were very rare, and triumphs were some of the only times human sacrafices happened.
@@luckym1651 more than 350 triumphs were celebrated in the history of Rome. And those were not human sacrifices, just public executions. Romans didn't make human sacrifices.
@HanselManCan ok but hypothetically if a country does 1 human sacrifice while kinda wanting to avoid thinking about it as human sacrafice, and another country does 1000 while proudly proclaiming that it is human sacrifice, you'd be generalizing to refer to both countries as the same thing, but yes Rome did do bad things.
@@rossellalaface492 executing prisoners of war at the foot of your most significant religious temple is really kinda human sacrificy, even if the Romans technically didn't see it that way
"[Elephants and giraffes] are objectively the weirdest animals" he says, and then goes on to ignore the rainbow-maned unicorn. I like your style.
Time stamp
@@twbillionare9568 There you go: look closely after 5:34
Rainbow-maned unicorns are just horses with decorations. Elephants and giraffes are _way_ weirder.
They're not _the_ weirdest animals, but they're the weirdest animals big enough for people to see in a parade. (Aside from a few cephalopods, but good luck getting them to march alongside the dioramas.)
Historia Civillis deserves a triumph!
Well then, I'll do my part: Imperator!
Imperator!
Imperator optimus maximus!
HAIL IMPERATOR
Historia Civilis, Imperator!
It never ceases to astonish me that your videos , with basic squares and rudimentary animations (no critique), are so much more interesting and educational than any high value production video that regurgitates the same old facts we heard so many times before.
Less is more in his channel's case.
Quality over quantity.
I will never not laugh at the idea of Pompey trying to stuff his chariot elephants through the gate.
Now try to think at this while Pompey had the face paint in red and his soldiers behind singing rude songs that insult him and the romans XD
@@krankarvolund7771 I bet the soldiers were singing about how the elephants were the only thing of Pompey that was too big to fit.
Imagine being an overly proud guy like Pompey and doing something so embarrassing that people are still laughing at you over 2000 years later.
You should because it shows the kind of arrogant loser prick he was.
Oops! "Never not" = "always yes", right? If so, never mind.
@@MitchellD249 Hell of a way to start what's supposed to be the best day of your life as a Roman, ain't it? LMAO. I can only imagine the fit he threw....
I just have to say that, every time I watch one of your videos, I am absolutely stunned by the quality. From your clear and eloquent narration to your simplistic yet clear visuals, everything is astoundingly well done. I salute you for your efforts to entertain and educate us, your viewers, on an incredibly interesting and complex period of history. So in short, thank you very much for all of the hard work producing and researching these videos, and keep them coming!
With a plastic bag for a helmet...!!!
As someone who has had the opportunity to be in a 100,000+ stadium of cheering fans, I can imagine what a crazy experience having 150,000+ cheer for you must have been. I understand why triumphators needed reminding that they were only humans.
There is a Strahov Stadium in Prague with capacity of 220K-250K. Used a lot for sports and concerts. There are videos from it. It is insane.
More recent estimates show the Circus Maximus’ capacity at 90k.
I love details like this. It really humanises the Romans. Too many documentaries etc just show the Romans as some boring, highly efficient military machine. Details like this really make you realise how human they were, they cracked rude jokes and used billboards to educate people on geography! Classic!
look at some of the graffiti preserved at Pompeii if you want a human view of the romans
Lord Ashbury I totally agree. When I was in Latin class my teacher made it seem like most of the interesting stuff was Greek (which of course a lot of it was), and the Romans boiled down to military and statescraft. These videos in Rome particularly are great because it expands on that initially dry subject matter and makes it interesting.
@@midshipman8654 I have a book by Nephtali Lewis and Meyer Reinhold titled 'Roman Civilization, selected readings' - It is essentially a collection of random Roman ' stuff ' , everything from the writings on gravestones, graffiti, political advertisements etc. It's fantastic reading and really humanises the Romans. There's even advertisement for legal advice and people's craft shops! Some of it makes you giggle.
@@Nazomiah Huh, Neat. Thanks for the recommendation! I'll be sure to pick it up sometime!
And they ritually massacre dozens of people... So human :D
I like to imagine the chariot with magic deflecting wards is like the modern bullet proof pope mobiles of today
I feel like we watch all the same videos
Same idea.
CreepsMcPasta The Romans were making Popemobiles before the Pope was even a thing!
@@midshipman8654 Except the Pope was a thing since the Roman Kingdom... The Christians usurped the title when Emperor Constantine (who was also Pope) 'converted' to Christianity. Overtime the Papacy drifted from the Crown to the bishops (this happened in Alexandria centuries before it did in Rome which is why there are 2 popes today).
That was the general intention.
When I was a kid watching history channel, I always wanted more detail, but never got it. Finally years later we got a show with an amazing level of detail.
"objectively the weirdest animals"
Australia would like to know your location
*Cue the kangaroos, platypuses, cassowaries and wombats*
When a dead platypus was first taken to Britain many people thought it was fake.
Perhaps Historia Civilis is such the historic purist he was only speaking of the known Roman world. Can you imagine the Romans' response to 'roos?!!!
@@tbscotty813 can you imagine the roman response to wallabies, or koalas, or platypi, or really half of Australia's wildlife?
@@platypipope328 their response? First they will build wall. Once they know the animals are harmless, they will cart them away.
Now I know why in the HBO series "Rome", Julius Caesar had a red face during his triumph.
I thought it was just the writers being creative. But, no, they got it from how the Romans did a triumph.
Cool.
Although they had him dressed in a more decorative version of his military uniform rather than the Royal Toga. Since there were 4 Triumph, the sparing of Cleopatra's sister and the son of the last king of a Northern African Kingdom by public acclaim was omitted. That king (raised by Octavian's sister, Octavia , and whose stewardship was later transfer to Octavian) later married one of the surviving daughter of Cleopatra with Antony.
@@dyingearth yup, king Juba II. Apparently he was also an avid naturalist and wrote many books on animals and other topics
your brain on television
@@CoercedJab I do think that a serious effort was made in making Rome for period realism.
I imagine that the Roman army singing would've been a lot like a sea shanty
@Friendly Neighborhood Neocon sure why not? I mean there were also land vikings in the Varangians, so yeah there can be land things based off of sea things.
I'm personally a big fan of my land boat.
Or folk songs adapted to be a bit more... different.
Like “Battle Hymn of the Republic” and “Blood on the Risers”
Probably more like military cadences, which even today are often bawdy.
Or maybe somewhat reminiscent of "Carmina Burana" ?
Gordon Bennet! Haven't any of you folks ever heard of a 'Rugby song'? I would recommend you try to find 'The sexual life of a Camel'.
On the concept of the color purple, purple dye was very expensive as the dye came from a sea snail. It was called Tyrian purple. It was so expensive that only rulers could afford it.
@@Mightus3000 Maybe for fixing the colour. But urine is used to make purple only during the XIXth century (with guano).
@@krankarvolund7771 But they certainly used urine to wash clothing
@@merrittanimation7721 That's sure, urine was a very cheap way to get amoniac. Which is a very efficient detergent ^^
what the hell is this comment section
Didn't it smell bad as well?
Last time I was this early Romulus still had a brother
Cato: No triumph for you!
Caesar: Oh really?
Cato: Don't try it!
*After a civil war*
Caesar: Good riddance, now I have FOUR triumphs.
Don't try it Caesar, I have the high ground.
Cato underestimated his power.
Kind of makes sense that Catos suicide was the subject of one of those Triumphs. Me thinks Caesar included this footnote for more personal reasons than mere propaganda.
five
Maybe for the next 'His Year' video (or, rather, His Year*s*) you could make one on General Gaius Marius? The Roman statesman who was Consul seven times and reformed the Roman military into the disciplined and uniform organisation we know and love.
Just finished a stressful essay, I needed this in my life.
Same
WTF I HAS ESSAY TOO!
15:17 And that ladies and gentlemen is why Queen Cleopatra committed suicide.
"I can die to an asp in the comfort of my own home, or get strangled in front of a cheering crowd. The choice was easy."
It's horrific just trying to imagine being dragged along for months (all the time knowing you´re destined to die) to spend your final hours walking trough a cheering crowd, before finally being strangled.
@@Damptarmac The psychological torment before the sacrifice. The message to would be usurpers to Roman power in the provinces and beyond was "Resist and this is what will await you".
So did Hannibal
Given the amount of stories that survived of her i doubt octavian would have thought her memory would just disapear. The girl seduced and controled two of the most powerful men in roman history.
I think making a example of her would certainly be octavians prefrence. I dont even wanna think about the things he could have done that would have ruined her memory.
What a perfect way to end my day. Some might say it's a.... Triumph. Also nice unicorn at 5:40 ;)
Do you get the video early if you sub on Patreon?
Also at 14:45 on the right
I’m not the only one seeing it then
I was half expecting this video to end with the "Still alive" song instead of the usual one.
"...this was a Triumph"
"I'm making a note here - Huge success!"
@@BoabisXscopeS Yes you do, Robert.
I'm always amazed at the level of detail you're able to talk about matters nobody else even thinks to cover, such as Caesar being the pontifex maximus, which gave him the power to regulate the calendar, which allowed him to perform his 'winter' crossing... Same with this video. Most people would say: 'a triumph is... well... a triumph, and thats about it'. But you explain it in such interesting detail... in short, my hat off for you, sir!
If the human sacrifice wasn't enough to convince you of the barbarity of the Romans, they were also responsible for inventing socks in sandals.
LOL
Caligae were not sandals. They were boots specifically designed to combat trenchfoot.
Those bastards
We should sack Rome right now for this savagery!!!
Japanes looking suspiciously worried about this comment..
We need to hold a triumph for Historia Civilis
I volunteer to be sacrificed before Jupiter in honour of this channel
Well then, let’s get started!
IMPERATOR!
@@mrelephant2283 thank you!!!! Nobody knows you anyways so I bet they wouldn't care to feel bad. But that's a nice offer !!! Let's triumph :)
And who will volunteer to be sacrificed to Jupier?
Meh...
@@LuisAldamiz everyone who downvoted this video
HIT THAT OUTRO!
BUHDUH DUHHHHHHH DEE DEE DAHH DEE DEE DAH DEDEDAHHHHHH.
Every time the tune drops, I like to imagine Caesar pushing a sweet four-horse chariot slowly down the via sacra decked out in purple sunglasses, hoisting a boombox, and getting a hit off a f a t b l u n t.
. . . I never said it was a logical mental picture, but there you go.
@@andrewstewart1464 Caesars Triumph, colourised
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@@andrewstewart1464 oooooooo shieeeeeeetttttt 🤣🤣
Bruh that outro is so sad though. It signifies that now I have to wait a long time until the next Historia Civilis video.
Every upload makes my day
You're the kind of person who automatically got at least some people to like your videos before even seeing them, because we know the content is, like always very descriptive and fun. It makes us appreciate history. Thank you for that
Every time Kings and Generals, BazBattles, or Invicta uploads a new video I get excited and save to watch later.
Every time Historia Civilis uploads a new video, my body enters a prolonged period of titillated rapture and transcendence.
Thanks for the upload! I learned several things about Roman triumphs that I did not know before, especially the stuff about the route through the city they would have taken, including a stop at the ole Circus Maximus. Cool stuff.
Who the hell uses "watch later"?
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I always enjoy some bacon and eggs after strangling my prisoners.
My Man 🤣
"Objectively the weirdest animals"
Gibbon say this in Decline and Fall too.
Only because Rome never conquered Australia
@@stvdagger8074 Would've loved to see them parading a herd of platypuses through Rome.
@@thegainsayerstalker a chariot pulled by tortoises 🤔
@@stvdagger8074 Vienna is in today's Austria so what are you talking about ;)
I love this channel. You have such a great way of presenting information. Most documentary TV-Programs spend most of their time trying to "make an atmosphere" and raise the anticipation level to annoying extremes. There is so much fluster and bluster. In contrast, you just present compact information. It is so much nicer and wastes no time.
It's an irony that Roman writers despised "barbarians" who committed human sacrifice to their gods - yet gladiatorial games had their origins in funeral rites, and this ritual killing of prisoners at the temple of Jupiter is blatantly a form of human sacrifice.
How tame our lives have become that most never see death until it has claimed them.
People find ways to justify all kinds of actions, I would assume they came up with various technicalities to explain why it was different.
@ Not wickermen as Sixshooter said, IIRC there is no evidence of the wickerman tradition as Caesar described it, but there is evidence with a corpse found in a bog in Denmark (Tollundman) that Germanic pagans did human sacrifice via hanging. Probably an allusion/honor to Odin who also hung himself.
@Sixshooter 9 Sources? They're are none. Its up their with Margret Meads Blue Lagoon Anthropology. Marxist historical revisionism.
Hypocrisy is a common theme throughout major civilisations.
Another excellent video, dude. I find the contrast between the civilized laws of the Republic and the - for the lack of a better term - tribal/primitive/rawer aspects of the Triumph to be very interesting - especially the strangling of the prisoners and the sacrificing of the bulls. Truly, the Romans were such a fascinating people.
Oh they are very fascinating, primitive indeed in quite a few aspects overall I think Roman civilization was very much a material one rather than a spiritual one.
They put huge emphasis on presenting things physically, their buildings included. It was a very performative culture and very grandios.
What makes them so fascinating is their success. They were able to continue endeavors over generations and kept some semblance of unified culture for centuries.
"Make sure the elephants are given their emetics in good time. I don't want my chariot slowed by giant turds."
~ Julius Caesar
Wow! Saturnalia came early.
Io Saturnalia
Io, Saturnalia!
Io Saturnalia
Io, Saturnalia!
Io Saturnalia!
I believe there s an error around 13:30
There are sports arenas well above that capacity (i.e. the Indianapolis Motor Speedway)
At 150,000 it would be considered the largest *stadium* in the world
Also, let's be real here, any major stadium in the world would be able to accomodate way more than 150,000 spectators were it allowed to ignore all safety regulations, the way the Circus Maximus obviously did because these hadn't even been invented yet.
@@yarpen26 Bleacher collapses in stadiums and amphitheaters occasionally killed thousands.
The Maracana in Brazil held around 199.000 people in the world cup 1950 finals, a modern stadium can hold even more, without safety ofc.
The last two sentences of this video are the most succinct and insightful summary of Roman politics and the greater implications as to the power dynamic that leads totalitarianism I have ever heard. Kudos.
10:48 It still surprises me to see that ancient soldiers are still very much like modern soldiers. Of the few soldiers I actually know, this seems like exactly something they would love to do.
"There is nothing new under the sun"
You make being a Patreon an easy choice. Thanks for you videos over the years, they impact further than you think
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i can't be but thank you for doing it sir.
15: 21 *Not Pictured
But we already have the picture in our head - Rome season 1 ep 10 -
"He made up for it later, though" oh boy did he
F for Cato in North Africa, didn't deserve it
It would be pretty cool if someone had made themselves dictator during their triumph as an ultimate ''execute order 66'' move.
Yes that would have awesome. Sadly it never happened due to the triumph being a festive/sacred matter.
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All it would have taken was one atheist to ruin the triumph for everybody forever. XD
@@prestonjones1653 it's not exactly clear that the Romans literally believed in the gods of their religion, or if that was more of a symbolic thing to them
Your videos are the only ones I actually go back and rewatch a few times. Quality stuff.
“We’re not going to linger, but hold these prisoners in the back of your mind”-Uh oh I’m not optimistic for these prisoners lads.
Yep. Lucky guess.
I thought the prisoners would be sold into slavery and/or forced to fight in the coliseum.
not very lucky for the prisoners lol
I've got some good news and some bad news. First the good news. You're going to feature in a parade to the cheers and celebration of all spectators. Now the bad news. You're going to be the sacrifice before Jupiter.
While your commentary on the slave bearing the laurel wreath is pitch-perfect, the pictures of reliefs you showed clearly depict Victories crowning the triumphator rather than slaves.
Other than that, wonderful work on this 20 min-long video, as always :)
“A little human sacrifice-y” is my new vibe.
It wasn't a human sacrifice. No, no, no, you misunderstand. *It was an execution of invaders.* They were asking for it, sneaking up on the triumphator and loitering about on the sacred way!
Easily my favourite channel on youtube! I really love your videos, the style, the music, the design and especially the information! It's all perfect!
Thank you so much for listing your sources! Other channels don't do this and it makes it really hard to cite them in research. Thank you!
"they [elephants and giraffes] are objectively the weirdest animals"
Unicorn slipped in to the parade as it zooms out lol
7:40 purple was the color of royalty becouse it was super expensive
Also because the type of dye used also didn't fade with age, in fact it was reputed to become brighter with sunlight.
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Never heard about the fading part and sunlight. Something cool to research now. 👍
@@lmonk9517 I think that's because it was made with this weird kind of dye that was made from some kind of shelled creature. I can't remember if it was snails or mollusks or clams or something else, but it must have been found first in Tyre, because it got known as Tyrian Purple.
google is your friend, the dye was made from the mucous glands of predatory sea snails in the Mediterranean "twelve thousand snails of Murex brandaris yield no more than 1.4 g of pure dye, enough to colour only the trim of a single garment."
@@justindie7543 exactly so this made full purple attire extremely expensive, (we are talking about over a million us $ here)
Dude! What an absolutely amazing vid! I had no idea I was even interested in this part of Roman history. Very articulate and basic but very affective graphics. Subbed!
Been binge watching this channel last couple of days, frekin love it! Great content I hope this guy keeps it up 👍
I'm so glad you are back, history daddy. It feels like that trip to pick up smokes lasted years
The fact that triumphs happened less and less during the empire only makes Belusarius's triumph in the 540s extra badass
I can definitely see the execution portion being derived from a much older human sacrifice tradition, possibly thanking Jupiter (or maybe his Etruscan equivalent?) for good luck during the war. And as human sacrifice became less popular, the tradition was rebranded as part of a larger celebration.
Please do a video about the time when Ceasar was captured by pirates and all the mad stuff that went down.
cewnik24 This would be a damn good video
Dude I absolutely love your videos. I nevered cared much for ancient rome until I discovered this channel a few months ago, starting with your His Year series. I ended up rewatching everything everything on rome in the chronological order playlist. Please tell me you’re planning to continue the story of the last century bc! At least until Augustus.
"Giraffes and elephants are objectively the weirdest animals"
i didnt expect it to get so real in here
7:36 the thing that the triumphator's toga was all dyed in Tyrian purpple just for the Triumph must have been astronomical money buring! By mass, that dye literally costed thrice the price of pure gold.
No wonder the dye was also called Royal pupple.
Fastest click in the west.
Jane Shepard *western empire
U r goddamn right
I'd thought Belasarius received a triumph from Justinian?? so were there any other post-republic late roman triumphs
Well, the triumphs were still a thing, but very often, the Emperor, as head of the senate denies the right to generals to triumph and said that he won, even if he didn't fought. So it became a thing reserved to emperors and the generals have some less important rewards.
Belasarius is an exception, Justinian let him triumph (and changed things in the triumph as it's not more in Rome and the Romans had become christians ^^). It's the last triumph of the Roman Empire.
Very few (if none; maybe Agrippa?) non-emperors/imperial-family received a triumph after the establishment of the empire.
@@pete9320 I found that Agrippa was given three triumphs, but he declined the three, not fool, he knew that he souldn't made shadow to Augustus if he wanted to survive ^^
IIRC, most post-Republic triumphs (Belisarius excluded) were given for members of the Imperial family.
There even were triumphs in byzantian times
Historia Civilis videos are minor highlights of my month. These are some of the best patreon euros/dollars that could be spent. Quality, at length, every time.
Having been on YT since roughly its beginning, it's nevertheless extremely rare that I thumbs anything up or down. However, I've thumbs-upped both of the videos I've just seen by this creator. I like that subtle pause, followed by the music at the end, because it punches home how much I've just learned.
Continue the Caesar's series. They're so fun to watch, please make more!
Swaggy Country It’s done, maybe Augustus/Octavian next
Clorox Bleach no way it’s done he hasn’t gotten murdered yet. Also I don’t want stories from the empire I like the republic
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Sad. Bleach will help end my misery then ;(
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I wanna see until his death and then move on to the next guy
I am Communism Wouldn’t be 30 mins goodness, maybe that and Octavian and Anthony chaisng down Brutus and co
Who wouldn't want a Triumph after finding a unicorn?
Always annoyed me in strategy games like total war that the pomerium is never mentioned and armies can enter Rome to their hearts content. I think gladiator mentioned it briefly when maximus's legion would have been a declaration of war to enter the city and the only soldiers allowed were the emperor's Praetoria and citizen militia.
I'd be surprised if the upcoming paradox game "Imperator: Rome" even mentions it. It's why I liked the original Rome TW, because Rome was its own faction and you were just a family in charge of territory outside its borders.
One death is a tragedy a thousand is just balancing the books with Jupiter.
Loving the channel so far. I would suggest naming the videos (maybe number them?) in a way that makes it easy to see what goes after what. I.e. all the Caesar videos could be ordered in a specific way that makes them easier to watch in the "correct" (so to speak) order. Keep up the good work!
the quality of these videos keeps getting better and better
5:34 “they are objectively the weirdest animals” 😂😂 how to start an argument on the Internet.
Cicero: "How are these military strongman taking over our republican traditions?"
The Republic:
I really hope all the videos about ceaser keep coming until his assassination, and then it leads into Antony, Octavian, Lepidus and the rest
Always a pleasure to watch, so many battles I’d like to understand better that I have yet to see
I love your videos. Who else would dig some much to show us the quirks of romans. This is the serendipitous detail you get from books.. Thanks!
I loved the part where I was so engaged that I had to be reminded I just witnessed a mass murder in the name of a god I don’t believe in.
can 0:56 be made into a t-shirt?
'Not dying in childhood'- YES
I think 12:54 should be a T-Shirt
So they found human sacrifices horrible when the gauls did it. But mass ceremonial murder is a ok, I guess its the mass part.
The death of one man is a tragedy; the death of a million a statistic. - Stalin (I think)
what would you say about the murder of criminals with members of the public watching on? as many modern states have this, including the US. After all, the Romans would consider their captured enemies to be criminals, we were certainly more than happy to execute defeated Germans and Japanese after ww2, is that not "mass ceremonial murder". The Gauls or other groups killed to appease the gods- the Romans did not.
It's quotes like "But I don't think it's going to far to say that this feels a little human sacrificey." that are the reason that you have a gift when comes to dispensing history to the masses.
The pomerian episode and this one are by far the most interesting UA-cam videos I've ever seen. Fantastic work!
He uploaded - Today, we all Triumph!
"And I know soon come my time
For in mine void a pale horse burns
But I fear not the time I'm taken
Past the point of no return.
Wage war like no tomorrow
Cuz no hell there won't be one
For all who deny the struggle
The triumphant overcome"
Ah yes. The fabled rainbow Unicorn of Camino de Santiago. Quite the prize.
Fantastic video once again. Your music is so unique, and the way you construct your videos is just awesome. Thank you once again for your great content.
This channel is absolute a gem!
Did any generals ever include animals that weren't in the territory they'd conquered, like giraffes and elefants, just to make their triumph seem more important and flashy? Like, I can imagine Caesar and other generals who conquered parts of Gaul and Europe had relatively little in the way of cool animals to show for it. Maybe they wanna throw some stuff in their to not seem boring.
i guess that if you bring in some huge wild boars, bulls, wolves, maybe bears from Gaul, the crowd would still be amazed.
back then, there was way more dangerous wildlife, like the Bos taurus primigenius etc., i think you could find enough stuff. but i'm sure it had been done
Caesar had 4 triumphs back to back, Gallic, Egypt, Pontic and and Africa (notice no triumph over defeating Pompey since it was a civil war, with Africa king Juba had been the ally of Pompeians so that was used as an excuse). So he had changes of showing of all exotic animals.
IIRC the Romans got hold of a polar bear once. I have no idea who caught it and sold it to Rome (probably a lot of internal deals)
@@bkjeong4302 Apparently you weren't joking. How in the hell they managed to get a hold of one of those must be a long story in of itself.
40 seconds and already hundreds of views. This video was long overdue but it was worth the wait!
5:41 was that... a unicorn?
14:48 oh yep there it is
As aways fantastic job, with information we won't find anywhere else on UA-cam. Congrats men.
You know, it makes my day when I see you have a new video.
10:49 I didn’t know the Romans invented modern rap
12:10 Wasn't the frase "Memento mori" (remember that you will die)?
"There are bunch of different versions of what this phrase may have been"
or possibly "remember you are mortal" which could be where "you are human" comes from.
I only just realized that while I'd watched your video on Caesar's 4 triumphs, I hadn't yet watched this one, so I decided to rectify that. Watching this, I'm not quite curious about one thing. What was Belisarius' triumph like? He was, to my understanding, the last Roman general to receive a triumph, and good lord did he deserve it.
It followed the basic routine, but removed most of the heavily pagan elements of the triumph. Belisarius went on foot, followed by Vandal prisoners (including Gelimer, dressed in purple) and threw gold to the crowds. Instead of terminating at the Temple of Jupiter, it terminated at the Hippodrome of Constantinople.
The end of the triumph had changed substantially. The triumph ended with both Belisarius and Gelimer prostraing themselves before Justinian and Theodora in the Hippodrome. Instead of strangling Gelimer, he and his family were given a sum of money and land in Anatolia where he could retire. I think we can all agree this was a good change in the tradition.
@@marvelfannumber1 Wow, thanks. That's interesting to know. I think I'd still like a video on it though...
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Would be cool to see a video on it, but we really only have Procopius' description of it, which is like a single paragraph long and doesn't go into that much detail beyond what I said.
(the only things I left out was that Belisarius was made Consul beforehand, started the triumph from his home and that the Jewish Temple Menorah was part of the procession, which made Justinian paranoid, so he sent it to Jerusalem).
@@marvelfannumber1 Ah, shame. Also, I'd actually heard about the menorah thing before from the channel Sam Aronow. He does Jewish history, from the Jewish perspective as much as possible.
@@Great_Olaf5
Though if you want to see what a Historia Civilis video covering Belisarius would be like, there is a channel called 'Byztory' doing exactly that which I would recommend.
Similar to the tradition of military units being granted "freedom of the city" in Commonwealth countries today.
I saw one of those parades here in Adelaide, Australia a few years ago where the local Battalion matched down the main street beating drums with bayonettes out. In front of the town hall a police officer symbolically stopped them and asked what they were doing. A soldier presented him with a document stating that they were given the freedom of the city and the police officer stood aside and the parade continued.
“The funk was coming from *inside* the Republic”
-Best sentence I’ve heard all year