The Fall of Pompey (48 B.C.E.)
Вставка
- Опубліковано 29 лип 2018
- The Battle of Pharsalus: • The Battle of Pharsalu...
Patreon | historiacivilis.com/patreon
Donate | historiacivilis.com/donate
Merch | historiacivilis.com/merch
Mailing List | historiacivilis.com/mailinglist
Twitter | historiacivilis.com/twitter
Website | historiacivilis.com
Sources:
"Commentaries on the Civil War," by Julius Caesar: amzn.to/2LrGuwV
"The Civil Wars," by Appian: amzn.to/2NRjqEC
"Parallel Lives: The Life of Julius Caesar," by Plutarch: amzn.to/2NObhAM
"Parallel Lives: The Life of Pompey," by Plutarch: amzn.to/2NObhAM
"Parallel Lives: The Life of Cato the Younger," by Plutarch: amzn.to/2NObhAM
"Parallel Lives: The Life of Cicero," by Plutarch: amzn.to/2NObhAM
"Parallel Lives: The Life of Antony," by Plutarch: amzn.to/2NObhAM
"Parallel Lives: The Life of Brutus," by Plutarch: amzn.to/2NObhAM
"The Lives of the Twelve Caesars: The Life of Julius Caesar," by Suetonius: amzn.to/2mOXjmX
"Roman History, Books 41 & 42" by Cassius Dio: amzn.to/2K3fEWj
"Letters to Atticus, Books 9, 10, & 11," by Cicero: amzn.to/2mOZ5V9
"Caesar: Life of a Colossus," by Adrian Goldsworthy: amzn.to/2K1aKt9
"Antony and Cleopatra," by Adrian Goldsworthy: amzn.to/2mL1xvM
"Rubicon," by Tom Holland: amzn.to/2LtrpLm
"Cicero," by Anthony Everitt: amzn.to/2NT1v0r
"Biography of Titus Labienus, Caesar’s Lieutenant in Gaul," by William Blake Tyrrell: goo.gl/7H8iAp
Music:
"Night Owl," by Broke For Free
"Heliograph," by Chris Zabriskie
"Infados," by Kevin MacLeod
"Your Mother's Daughter," by Chris Zabriskie
"Dot," by IMF
"Hallon," by Christian Bjoerklund
We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Well no wonder Pompey lost.
He was fighting against the dude who get to decide what time of year it is.
Ahahahha
Lmao
LMAO!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
Kek
KinkyChris hkh
A Civil War where 2 generals are both racing to build a wall the fastest?
That is THE MOST ROMAN THING I HAVE EVER READ.
USA and CSA during the American Civil War too were racing to see who dig their trenches the fastest.
Grants failed attack in the Crater, Lee’s line broken through at a weak section to the south of Petersburg.
The parallels ard quite stunning.
Mike D,it really is 😂😂😂
... after the trench war of WW1, that is.
I could only think of WW1 when watching that, really. Let's build the Maginot Line!, let's build the whatever-name German anti-Maginot Line!, let's declare war!, let's march through neutral Belgium!, let's dig trenches!, let's dig counter-trenches!, let's bomb them with poison gas!, etc. Four years like that and the lines almost didn't move at all...
No it’s a civil wall
@@prechabahnglai103 Student's of military history are most time's victors.
“Please stop!”
“In exchange for what?”
“Wha?”
“What will you give me if I do that?”
“...nothing.”
“Then... what is your purpose?”
“Wha?”
“Get outa here!”
*dies*
No comedy like history in hindsight.
There's no way bibulus wasn't assassinated. A pointless negotiation is an excellent cover for an assassination plot. Bibulus wasn't going to give anything, but his men were more than ready to.
It's not _that_ dissimilar from how a lot of* ancient-world diplomacy worked. It works better when you enter negotiations after beating the other guy up, which makes Bibilus's use of it here unorthodox.
*Obviously not all, but it's a theme I see in a lot of classical civilizations. They were terrible at diplomacy because they expected the other side to give up concessions with little to no compensation.
@@josephjagusah8668 So, in modern words, they fragged him.
@@josephjagusah8668 if I remember correctly he said that it was one of bibulus men in the video, not himself.
@@Minecraftrok999 Yes, that conversation Caesar had was with Bibulus' second in command. Not Bibulus himself.
Because of you, I cannot imagine Caesar to look like anything other than a red square.
in Moscow?
And Cicero as a green square then?
@@ethericboy and that Blue squared IDIOT!
imagine if he starts talking about the soviet union :O so many red squares in Red Square.
HBO Rome Caesar is a handsome red square 🟥
"Caesar, we're surrounded and cut off from supply by Pompey!"
"Perfect! They've fallen right into our trap!"
proceeds to build a 31km wall around them
toxicpanda36 Julius Caesar strategy book:
1- Build a wall
2- Build more walls
3- Build longer walls
4- Still haven't won? Why not launching an atta... SNAP! MORE WALLS I'M GONNA DROWN YOU IN WALLS I'M CAESAR MUDAFACKA
Out of the box literally
Caesar was playing fortnite.
"Sir, the enemies building walls around our fortifications!"
"Ready the men to assault the enemy's walls"
"Yes, S-"
"...so we have more time to build a wall around _their_ wall!"
"Sir?"
"But, now that I say that, what if the enemy builds another wall around our wall?"
"..."
"Do we even have the wood to build those many walls?"
"[leaves tent]"
"I've got it! *Ceilings!* Hmph, and they said I couldn't think 'outside the box' ..."
morgana :) :]
"The enemy would have won today if they were commanded by a winner."
Even in the face of disaster, Caesar was capable of some truly sick burns.
Amazing
Luckily they have water for that sick burn
Back then an untreated burn could kill!
If untreated, it can still kill today
Said the guy who just lost a battle
Caesar's worst enemy - basic foodstuffs!
And his greatest ally - construction materials!
Caesar plays Minecraft confirmed
he would make an execelent soviet architect.
@@DCdabest He played until March 15. 44 B.C.
Caesar's Legion
100% faster lumberjacks and stone miners
50% faster builders
Lacks horse collar
20% slower farmers
Hunters only carry 15 food
Soldier: Caesar, what should we do?
Caesar: idk build a wall or something?
Caesar: *refuses to let us come to shore to get supplies*
Bibulus: "I have decided that I want to die."
Bibilus: Supplies plox
Caesar: No.
Bibilus: guess I'll die
🤣
>gets demands rejected
>fucking dies
Lmao
Well, he died from desease, if i recall
"The enemy would've won today, if they had been commanded by a winner"
Damn that's harsh criticism against Pompey.
Holdin McGroin Pompey the Great? More like Pompey the Loser.
Pompey was a pretty good general, of the triumvrate it was Crassus who was the useless one.
But Crassus had dat doe doe
SantomPh Crassus took out Spartacus
SantomPh From what I can ascern, Pompey was a capable general, but far, far from a great general. That's just my opinion though so it don't mean shiat.
19:25 "Cato didn't agree with Cicero's reasoning, but respected his decision"
meanwhile in the video
"Thats dumb. You're dumb"
You're probably closer to the truth than the chronicles.
True.
I love that Caesar had to explain to Bibilus's negotiator what negotiations were.
Pompey: I'll build MY OWN wall!
Caesar: The wall just got *ten feet higher.*
*longer
10 pedes higher
Why not both?
*holds up little Mexican girl and everyone cheers*
Caesar: make the pompeyan, pay for it
"When in doubt, build a wall" - Gaius Julius Caesar
'Nah' - Crassus
+Tjalling Appelhof No wonder he lost his head 😂
"Wha?" -Bibulus
+GodDamnSeaslugs Lmao win
"And make Mexico pay for it"
Bibilus wasn't surrounded by "Yes" men, he was surrounded by "What?" men.
When I got to that part I was dying. Nice to see a little humor amidst all the action!
Wha?
Huh?
Biblius was the first choosing beggar.
LOLLOLLOLLOLL
10:25 "attempted to goad Pompey into attacking"
*legions start wiggling/dancing*
When the legions starting doing that all I could think of was they were mooning them from across the river.
Caesarion: I fart in your general direction!
Pompeyan: your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!
*everyone doing the Macarena to taunt*
Pompey: you arrested and will be tried before the senate
Caesar: I AM THE SENATE
Caesar: yOu ArReSted
@Jack the Gestapo Best coment line ever
the illegal seagull Star Wars reference?
Brutus: You were supposed to protect the republic, not destroy it!
@@therafmaster5958 bring balance to the senate, not leave it in pieces!
Jesus the fact that Caesar was able to use the calendar as a benefit just shows how much of a genius he was
"The Laws of time are mine"
We still follow that calendar 🙌, legend 💪
@@alexboniface9827 we actually don't, he later went on to change the calendar in to its current form ( with small changes made when more precise tech was available)
@@alexboniface9827 Nah, we follow the gregorian calender.
MrDrRalph Precisely!
Caesar won a battle by literally being in control of time itself... wow
Bram06 he's like Dr. Strange.
*[T H E W O R L D]*
Whaddya mean
He whoms't've'd not beith named Hes talking about the calendar part. Look at the blockade part of video to see it
FlufyCaterpilar lollllllll he did control time
The fact that the pompeian fort has a set of walls within the walls, while the fort was itself within a wall, opposing another wall- god damn.
Wallception
game of walls
wall-e
amiright guys
@@geekzombie8795 Yes
"Oh no, Biblius fell ill and died!"
"What was he known for the most?"
"Getting poop all over him after trying to make his veto heard."
"Well... i guess you can say that in his final hours... he shat the bed."
That battle was like 2 pro RTS players trying to out-meta each other to death.
Try to "tron-bike" each other with walls only to end up building them 30km long, way outside of their own bases.
Building forts inside of forts as a surprise tactic.
Countering the enemy trying to starve you to death by making them dehydrate to death.
I know, so much irony.
Also, nipah~~~~
@jpc1918 So if I walk outside for 3 hours, I die. Gosh, hiking is deadly.
@@reinatr4848 It's a bad time to make "If I go out I die" jokes
Ancient warfare 101
Why is your pfp a little girl
These videos are honestly the highlight of my month everytime I see them.
same here
Highlight of my LIFE.
Same here
Thane Verrah you're sad
yes
Caesar oversees election
Caesar is a Candidate?
Caesar wins???
Who said this was a good idea?
Ceasar
Same thing happened in the last governor’s election in Georgia
@@davidanderson7782 Everyone always beats me to it, goddammit.
@@rasterbate87 Yeah the governor of Georgia didnt oversee and manipulate his own election. Stfu
@@DeathBone4656 uhm, yeah he did.
Brian Kemp was secretary of state, i.e. the guy overseeing the election.
And Kemp held up more than 50,000 voter registrations (for really minor stuff like a missing hyphen or apostrophe), fought tooth and nail to outlaw people from "repairing" their mail in ballots when the signatures didn't match 100% (normal signatures look different every time, especially after the passing of 5-30 years) .
He also was the only one who refused Homeland's securities help in protecting their election from hacking, was sued for having the weakest hacking security AND he published a headline on the secretary of state website claiming " AFTER FAILED HACKING ATTEMPT, SOS LAUNCHES INVESTIGATION INTO GEORGIA DEMOCRATIC PARTY"
That's published on the website which voters use to get reliable information about the election...
And there's so much more.
And unlike Trump's lies and accusations those things actually happened and there's a mountain of evidence for it.
I have officially watched every single Historia Civilis video to date, and I have to say, I am continually amazed, not just at the level of detail and dedication put into every single video, but the surprising amount of humor and personality a bunch of faceless squares can convey. Whoever you are, sir, you are extremely talented and knowledgeable, and I hope to continue to support you as long as I can. Once I get a steady income, bet on me becoming a Patron. Unfortunate that I don't have the money now, but just wait.
This video took me by surprise. The saga of Bibulus, which I've seen built up for weeks, ending with him just... dropping dead, Cicero, one of the greatest Romans, being assassinated seemingly out of nowhere... they're truly cinematic-proportion twists. Thank you for educating me on the ancient and the modern world, and here's to whatever's coming next! Ave Historia Civilis!
I am officially running for Fish God.
I could not have wrote a better commendation/letter of compliment, took the words out of my mouth! Always thoroughly intrigued and impressed with this guys uploads, he definitely lends credit to the term “Knowledge is power”.
I keep his entire playlist on permanent download. I listen to them while hunting. Keeps me inspired to push harder and be better
I've probably listened to his entire catalogue at least 3 times over the years. I usually put on a playlist while I'm sick or otherwise off my feet.
Finally finished the civil war arc. What a saga it was
Finally the box legions are here to satisfy my box battle fetish
underrated
Finally I found people who share my fetishes
Spiffy Brit Ben Thompson did a really good job of explaining the attack by Pompeys legion on the 700 men on badassoftheweek under Caesars toughest or best centurion. This guy in command of those men sustained several life threatening injuries, killed so many guys that it dulled his sword, cut a guys head and arm off with a blow from his dagger and crushed another's skull with a rock. When the two enemy commanders came out to offer terms he killed them both
He somehow survived and continued to serve in the legions
:/
BOX FOR THE BOX GOD! SQUARES FOR THE SQUARE THRONE!
"I will build a wall, and make Pompey pay for it" Julius Caesar - 48 B.C.E
Emperor Palpatine "I am the Senate!" Juliues Ceaser - 48 B.C.E
He builds "the best" walls
Emperor Palpatine “When Bibulus sends his people, he’s not sending his best.”
I've always had a great relationship with the Gauls."
That was a good one, sounds familiar!
This dude is making more compelling documentaries with squares and rectangles than History Channel has made in 10 years.
True! Except for maybe The World Wars.
I have been following the saga of Caesar in chronological order and honestly I feel personally betrayed by Lebienus.
Well, I bet "you" would feel even more betrayed if Labienus would have led the legions, or part of them against Caesar. He followed his heart, who can blame him for that?
If Caesar just told him beforehand maybe he won't switch sides :(
Top ten anime breakups
I respect and admire Caesar more than any historic figure. But he was the villain, no doubt about that. He was literally tearing the Republic apart. Labeinus, regardless of what his true intentions were, sided with the Republic. Some would argue that the Republic's time was long due, but that's a different discussion. He brought its demise.
I think Labienus was feeling that he was betrayed by Caesar.
That negotiation scene lol. Priceless! WHA!?
What is your purpose?...lol
Wha!?
^Well the negotiations were short
wha..?
The man Bibulus sent to negotiate didn't realize he had any power to negotiate? What more could you expect from Bibulus' is right hand man...
The bibilus achievement is like those video game achievements you get that show off to everyone who looks at your profile that you died 100 times in the first mission on easy mode before winning it.
He was a CONSUL OF ROME!!
A CONSUL of Rome.
Shame, on the House of Ptolemy, for such barbarities. Shame.
प्रियदर्शी a consul of Rome, to die in this sordid way, quartered like some low thief, shame!
HE REFUSES TO MEET ME!
like a dacian catamite
A consul of Rome.
To die in this sordid way,
quarted like some low thief.
Shame!!
I was just about to say around the 19:49 part the narrator forgot to mention that Lucius vorenus and Titus pullo found Pompeii on a beach
I request that a T shirt depicting the "Bibulus Award" typed in comic sans overtop a poorly drawn star be a thing.
IOV TRIED
Your videos are better than movies.
nah
Krommer1000 I wish HBO’s Rome didn’t die off. Good series, least I thought so.
Agreed, great series. But for the actual history of what happened rather than a drama about what happened, it'd be Historia Civilis.
read a book then
audaces fortuna iuvat well I am...kinda. “Clash of Empires”
Focus’ more on the war between Philip V and Galba and Flamminius but in has characters that are just regular soldiers so you get to...well not see but imagine the battles. Very good, even has the battle of Zama in it.
Nothing better than waking up to a new video from Historia Civilis.
One of the best feelings!
agreed
"Dang it" -Cicero, 48 BCE
2018: Historia Civilis puts the Bibulus award on the table
2020: Dovahhatty hands out the Bibulus award.
If im ever gonna be dying, ill pull a toga or nearest equivalent over my head from now on. Though with a hospital gown, that may be less than dignified goodbye...
Press F for Pompey
F
F
F
F
F
Every time your theme music drops at the end I'm immediately filled with a sense of being proud of you for putting out such great content. Then I'm filed with sadness that is over, then finally i get excited for your next story.
So true about the end theme music. Love it so much
Fun fact, Caesar cried when he was given Pompey’s seal ring and he tried to get revenge against the killers of Pompey because they beheaded his corpse
Fun fact: that’s exactly what the absolute ruler at that time would have wanted anybody to believe…truth or not but every good PR agent would have said the same 🤷🏼♂️😂
@@Das_Kaenguru considering how insane is his real life story - I wouldn't dismiss it so quickly as a PR move. Especially since we know, that he died only because he was way too lenient with his enemies - which we all know how it turned out. Whether you admire him or hate him - it cannot be overstated, how hard he tried to avoid bloodshed of his noble prisoners and win them over with pardons. A mistake that Augustus learnt on and did not hesitate to kill everyone who was against him.
Building the wall was a master stroke. Making the other side pay for it? GENIUS.
a very STABLE GENIUS move by Caesar!
Nice reference
Oh gawd not here too....🤦
That is a professional level 13th dimensional Korean-servers Starcraft move.
Man if Caesar was alive to this day he would be a great fortnite player.
Gaius Julius Caesar: Shame on the House of Ptolemy for such barbarity. Shame.
Pothinus: But... you are enemies.
Gaius Julius Caesar: He was a consul of Rome!
Shame shame shame
HE
He was a PS4 of ROME!
Hell yes Rome season 1!
I loved how Rex Harrison played that scene in Cleopatra.
14:41 I can't stop laughing at that clueless rectangle traversing along the wrong walls away from the fort
Caesar: outnumbered and underfed
Anyone: freshly fed and with a shitton of soldiers
Caesar: wins anyway
Caesar: outnumered and underfed
Pompey: Numerical superiority and well supplied. "We have months of food. Caesar only has weeks and he'll starve."
Ceasar: *turns off Pompey's water*
Pompey: "We only have a couple days worth of water!!!"
It was rather foolish for Pompey to go to Egypt. The pharaoh could not supply him with an army because that would incur Caesar's wrath, who was winning at the time. It was also risky to reject Pompey and turn him away, because if Pompey had somehow managed to recover and emerge victorious from the civil war, they would then face Pompey's wrath. So the only safe course of action for the pharaoh was to capture Pompey an turn him over to Caesar. Pompey should have seen that. He must have been desperate when he decided to go to Egypt.
Xia Jiang Also, now they didn't owe him any favour
Didn't they present Pompey's head decapitated? And didn't Caesar get incredibly angry and even cried at his death for the Egyptians to present it as a gift? This video is missing some valuable information. Unless it's historically incorrect.
He didn't get to that part yet. Next video.
Ya ceasar wanted to pardon Pompey at the end of the war to show his good will and win the Roman people
strategically speaking, it was to the benefit of Caesar that this happened, as he would have needed to pardon Pompey to not look like a blood thirsty dictator, however he would have to bring his most powerful political opponent back to Rome and watch him constantly. plus it gave him an excuse to put Cleopatra in power thus making the Egyptian kingdom more allied to him personally then to Rome itself.
That being said any roman would judge Caesar pretty harshly if he did a jig when presented with the head of a roman consul by a subject supposedly loyal to Rome...Caesar also possessed both empathy and foresight, he knew that could easily be him if the war had gone the other way and wanted to impress upon all its subjects that roman citizens were only subject to roman law and would be tried/sentenced by Romans...as most considered the roman legal system the core principal of the nation and believed it was what set them apart from the "barbarian kingdoms"
thus it would make sense for Caesar to act sad and pissed, even if he wasn't.
Bibulus is like the jeb bush of Roman politics.
Arthur Fretheim
Yeah but Augustus was successful. Bibulus was not a winner as Julius Caesar would put it.
More like lost to a gerrymandered system. As far as votes went, she won, it's just that in the US, some votes count less than others.
All politician plays the game. In fact, in all countries, some votes count less than others. Mdm Hillary had all the cards, unfortunately for her, arrogance brought her down.
"That state thing" is not about "land area", it's actually really about people. The consensus decide the rest of the votes after the 3 per state is distributed. That's why California has the most electors or representatives with 55. It remains an important state to win. The issue with representation based entirely on population is it will favour the city dwellers who are more numerous than rural folks. The people living in small, remote communities will suffer further isolation. It's always a trade off for another, in order to give more voice to the people living in the countryside, the people in the city share of the vote has to be cut. You might think that people in the countryside shouldn't matter because they don't contribute to the economy enough and all I can say is: maybe that mindset made the Democrats lost to the worst candidate in US election history.
The way you are being so defensive, saying I'm projecting views while mentioning: "because they live in those lands, why does it mean they should have more political power than a person living in a more populated area" is quite confirming "my projection". I'm not saying the system is by any mean perfect but it is to a certain extend being fair by letting the smaller population have more voices in how the country is run at the expense of the more populous states. If you live in a small state it is a blessing and vice versa. Montana only has 1 million people so it gets 3 minimum votes and 2 senators, California gets 55 and 2 senators because it has 40 million people. Of course, that means that one million people living in California has larger voice than 1 million people living in Montana and while the ratio wise the difference is large, the reality is the 5 seats in Montana are not worth considered to the candidates than the ones in swing states. If you based your voting on population alone, large population centers with more concentration of money and mass media will control a lot more influence on politics than they already had. You might want to try to sympathize with people living in smaller states where business opportunity is limited and their culture eroded by larger states. I won't discuss whether or not these cultures are worth keeping, but while the system is not fair, it is functional enough. The UK electoral system is as broken and frankly no system in the world is perfect. We can implement more progressive system such as proportional representation which on paper brings complete fairness but in practice obligated unity within the government like what happened in the last days of Weimar. Each system has its own advantage and disadvantage, the best we can do is to pick our poison.
i've never seen history explained this way. very, very well done! graphics are superb. as is the narration. also kudos to syncing narration to the action its a crisp, steady tempo in every vid. all that plus the stories themselves, make these videos forever entertaining
imagine having a 7:1 advantage attacking a wall, the enemy taking a 100% casualty rate, but not taking your objective
Caesar's tactics in a nutshell:
1. Build a bridge. If that is not possible either:
2. Build a wall or
3. Build some boats
Ceasar could win any battle just by building stuff. And if he didn't win, it was because he didn't build enough stuff, hence the defeat at Dyrrhachium.
They say Rome wasn't build in a day, but I'd say Ceasar's legions could have done it in 7-8 days tops.
"I AM GOING TO BUILD A WALL!"
Caesar, 48 BC
"I AM GOING TO BUILD A WALL!"
Pompey, 48 BC
Roman elections were lacking originality, but at least they agreed on some things ^^
Brotlowsky rgseg Ancient Fortnite basically xD
Roman tactics basically. But he has an obsession with walls
"I heard you like walls so we built a huge wall and then we built a wall outside that wall and then we built a wall inside that wall."
"and to top that, we also built another wall"
@@yuhyuh5674 and Pompey paid for it.
@@davidweikle9921 - Gaius Julius Caesar 48 BCE
Holy shit, the romans loved forts so much they built a fort INSIDE of another fort. I loled hard when i first saw that.
1:06 At least Cicero had that great rug in his house. It really tied the room together.
And its russian btw
We're surrounded!
- Perfect! We can attack in any direction!
Love that your are listing sources now :)
Shiny Phanpy It says this comment is 2 days old???
Baaws !
Patreon
Ohh i see
He always did tho...what people complained about is not listing what pages are these anictodes from
I've been watching this series on a binge and it's really interesting how Pompey lost even though things kept looking like to his advantage, Caesar always managed to turn the tide.
Fly high Pompey Magnus 🦅
god i love it whenever you mention cisalpine gaul, it's my favorite region. I don't know why i just like the name
These videos always make me a little sad. Because they are so good and so detailed, I can't help but think about all the history that's just lost to time because the records are not as good as the Roman ones.
Sadly not every people group were as irritating as the Romans to write down and log everything. But they sort of had to do this, because controlling the whole Mediterranean in a time where letters on paper were the only source of accurate intelligence and accounting. Too bad that personal greed got in the way again and again and again.
Good point indeed.
He was a CONSUL OF ROME!!!
That series was the bomb.
I thank you for the grain but I have no horses.
Trimverate sinks and drops....wolves of street walls,investors climbed to towers n chimney tops...to watch the trembling Tiber.
14:24 Those soldiers being like "Damn, this a big-ass fort."
It would be nice for a Video about the conquered Roman territories, the people who lived there, and how densely populated the territories were. When I think about these areas, I always imagine them to be near uninhabited because I hear so little about them and their locals.
They were not at all uninhabited. We hear little because they were colonies, not central anymore to the political agenda. It's like saying: we hear so little of Nigeria, Egypt, India, Indonesia... these days. Well they are massively populated countries, just that not top dog.
Said that, the East was more at the same level or even higher than Italy/Rome, while the West was more underdeveloped but less than lack of info could lead us to imagine. For example Roman-like roads (sorta) already existed in "tribal Britain", Hispania was since long before a peripheral but rather thriving civilization (at least the southern and eastern parts), associated by force or grade to the Phoenician and Greek trading networks, the Celts of Noricum were central to a vast trading network that spanned the much expanded Celtic homelands, albeit threatened by insidious and destructive Germanic advance, the Dacians were able to face the Celts first and the Romans later (albeit they eventually lost), etc.
The Romans tended to consider these Western nations "barbaric", treating their political entities as "tribes" (even if they often were named relative to their central city and acted as "primitive" city-states) and calling their cities dismssively "oppidae" (i.e. fortified settlements) instead of "civitae" or "urbes" (cities proper). They were somewhat behind, clearly so, but they were not that far behind Italy.
PS- One thing that is indeed different relative to today and even the (mid-to-late) Middle Ages is that Atlantic Europe could not be so effectively cultivated as it was since the arrival (probably from China via the Turks) of the heavy plough. That gave an edge to the Mediterranean agriculture that was totally lost since the Middle Ages, when that technology (along other agricultural advances of lesser relevance) greatly improved the productivity of Atlantic Europe, effectively displacing the economic center from Italy to Belgium and shaping Europe as we know it today.
It's not who votes that counts. It's who counts the votes.....
Is that a quote or did you make it yourself if you did then you have my congratulations
From Stalin.
lol, this saying is some what popular
yeah its from stalin
So you're saying that Caesar got elected as a council because he was the one arranging the election?
Nothing better than watching a new video while drinking tea from my Historia Civilis mug.
Xachero HE HAS MUGS?!
Trevor Rogers check his patreon out!
aw yeah I'm totally getting all up in that
18:40 "And unlike Pompey, Cicero was alive."
Really appreciate the effort you put into these videos. I’ve always wanted to get into Roman politics not just the pop history most people make. Your videos are something else man. Thank you so much for making them.
I love how the rivers are included in the maps, gives much more insight into the placement of cities.
So why did the Pharaoh decide to kill Pompey? Was it just because that way that he no longer owned him a debt? Was he influenced by Ceaser?
EDIT: Ah, okay, so a quick read on wikipedia shows that a adviser to the Pharaoh called Pothinus told the Pharaoh to kill Pompey to get in good with Ceaser since he was going to be the obvious winner. That way Egypt and the Roman empire might have a better relationship, but apparently Ceaser hated this, and didn't like seeing an old friends head be presented to him, and buried him him at his Villa in Alba.
Ptolemy XIII killed Pompey because he wanted to give his head as a gift to Caesar (to try and appease him and win his support) it didn't worked.
Caesar was disgusted by it apparently.
Caesar was not just outraged because you know: "consul of Rome, blah-blah" but mostly because he was all the time trying to gain support among his enemies, not to kill them. He was a softie and that's why he ended up being mass-stabbed by all the enemies he pardoned and whose favor he tried to vie for. He should have read Machiavelli (well, OK, that's an anachronism, but still...)
HE WAS A CONSUL OF ROME :(
I love your videos. I can (and have) spend entire days rewatching them. I am very grateful. Thank you.
The amazing thing about the story of Caesar is that he always manages to pull through despite often being in overwhelming disadvantage.
I've been waiting for this for a very long time, Mr Civilis.
Big Brother Mr. Syfilis? haha
Soldier: ”Caesar we’re under attack! We’re severly undermanned, undersupplied and it’s winter! What do we do?”
Caesar: ”we must build A WALL”
There is literally no other channel I get as excited for new videos as this one! You crush it every time
Hey man, super late but I'm finally making it through this series. Thank you for taking the time to make this, I know words aren't money but I genuinely appreciate you for your effort
Liked before watched!
Idem.
PD: You are awesome too!
Sheople
saaame
Same
HistoryMarche I love all ur vids
I’d really like to see a video on why Pompey was a great general, other then that’s great work once again my dude
blueknight1706 he had a great military career and was called adulescens carnifex (adolescent butcher) when he was young
The ride never ends I know why he was a great general, I just like his videos and the way he formats things, so I’d just like a video on Pompey
Pompey first supported Sulla with an army of his own and defeated Marius remaining supporters, for which he was rewarded with a triumph, then he retook spain from Quintus Sertorius and defeated the King of Pontus, creating a new province and he took the remainder of the seleucid empire and he conquered the Nabateans.
These are awesome. Helps my understanding of some Rome 2 Total War timelines much better and are extremely entertaining/informative for colored squares on a map! Many thanks!
Excellent video. I have always been a student of history (especially Greco - Roman). This is an excellent way to explain this war.
get home from work, open a beer and watch a new Historia Civilis video = dream life. Thank you, sir.
I came out of a business meeting because I noticed there was a new video. I'm unemployed now, but it was all worth it.
you shall be respected for this.
Mídia Insana You shall be honoured as a rebel, who prioritised Historia Civilis over the market
No regerts
Indeed ken, no regerts -_-
Sure you did
I absolutely love these videos. They are the best interpretation of caesars battles. I wish there was some sort of Legion strategy video game in this sort of format!!
Hey mate nice video, I have just only found this channel today and so far have become hooked on it. You explain things really well and show what happens in a pretty simple way which is very helpful. I always have been intrested in learning more about ancient history so I am glad I found this channel, keep up the great work mate.
i can’t even watch this until after work but i came here anyway to comment how excited i am to do that later!!!!!!!!
Joseph R. Biden it's a banger!
One of the best channels on UA-cam. You singlehandedly sparked my interest in Classical Europe and it's politics.
Jacob Garrison And mine is the most relaxing on UA-cam. Beat that.
Didnt think I'd get caught up here, but I'm quickly making my way through the series, good job man.
I love that you have stated the sources in the description. Great improvement from earlier videos.
Sounds like Pompey's strategy of "patience" and "waiting" and holding his advantage instead of pressing it was a bad idea at every turn. I guess that's why they say fortune favors the bold.
No, before Pharsalus Caesar was in a really bad spot, had the senate not pushed Pompey into attacking, Caesar could have just starved without Pompey losing more men than necessary. Pompey made a big mistake by letting Caesar escape after the battle of Dyrrachium though.
I believe it's John Paul Jones' words:
"It seems to be a law of nature that those who will not risk cannot win"
so many enemys of rome made the same mistake
attack rome when you have the momentum guys dont wait for them to pull a zama/pharsalus
Militarily it made good sense to starve him out. Politically and religiously though, it was considered poor form not to crush your enemy in open battle. The republic died from the vanity of the old guard
the negotiation scene, "Pulp Fiction"-like
This is the best channel on UA-cam when it comes to consistent quality plus the music at the end is a bop everytime
Honestly can’t wait for your next video.
Do you think Napoleon III gets the Bibulus award?
SAVAGE
A Not so Brief History No, He helped make Germania Great Again.
He certainly is a candidate.
To be fair, his internal politics were beneficial for France, mainly the commissioning of Georges Haussmann for the rebuilding of Paris and the like
Not even close.
His internal policies were way ahead of his time.
Another great Canadian UA-cam creator. Keep up the wonderful work bud!
Dawson Jones He's Canadian?
Check the channel's "about" page.
Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!
Great work of art as always!!! Just continue making more videos on Caesar!
my favorite channel on youtube, good stuff as always
I always preferred Caesar over Pompey
I always preferred Pompey.
@Jack the Gestapo my guy!
Nobody prefers Hannibal at least.
So did Jupiter
What an absolutely brilliant series.
Another fantastic video. Keep it up, man! The thing that get's me most excited each month.
This video reminds me, do you ever plan on doing a video on the history of Roman Citizenship, the privileges associated with it, and what groups acquired it and when?
I think this would be a very interesting video that would give good context of the value of citizenship.
Boy Bibulus was really incompetent
The best 21 minutes and 17 seconds of my entire month. Thank you!
Great job on this site.