The Battle of Philippi (42 B.C.E.)

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 3,6 тис.

  • @RubanVH
    @RubanVH 3 роки тому +5233

    21:10 SEXTUS POMPEIUS BOAT KING

    • @HistoriaCivilis
      @HistoriaCivilis  3 роки тому +2856

      WE CAN'T GET INTO IT NOW.

    • @johnlavery3433
      @johnlavery3433 3 роки тому +622

      Now now, he was a boat Consul

    • @a.h.tvideomapping4293
      @a.h.tvideomapping4293 3 роки тому +433

      “Your enemies”
      *he was THE BOAT KING OF ROME*

    • @elijahg.8273
      @elijahg.8273 3 роки тому +106

      "Ich lasse mir doch nicht mein Schiff unter dem Arsch wegschießen Feuererlaubnis!" - Some roman boat king, probably

    • @treeyee9790
      @treeyee9790 3 роки тому +20

      incredible

  • @Jay-ln1co
    @Jay-ln1co 3 роки тому +3729

    "This is known as the Second Battle of Philippi, because it was the second battle, and because it was near Philippi."
    See, this is the cutting edge historical knowledge you just don't get elsewhere.

    • @aurelia8028
      @aurelia8028 3 роки тому +2

      @@ModalSoul what?

    • @datguitarplayer1656
      @datguitarplayer1656 3 роки тому +1

      😆😅🤣😂

    • @kan12372
      @kan12372 3 роки тому +3

      It's pretty self explanatory..

    • @TheHesseJames
      @TheHesseJames 3 роки тому +4

      @@kan12372 isn't it?

    • @dibaldgyfm9933
      @dibaldgyfm9933 3 роки тому +10

      Thought the same and had a laugh. I guess that was the intention from Historia-Civilis! :D :D :D ☻

  • @merrittanimation7721
    @merrittanimation7721 3 роки тому +1757

    Hortensia: "NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!"
    Mark Antony: "You're a couple millennia too early for that."

    • @georgewu4051
      @georgewu4051 3 роки тому +86

      and here I thought feminism started in the suffrage movements

    • @assassain0425
      @assassain0425 3 роки тому +69

      American eagle screaming in the background

    • @josue_mejia
      @josue_mejia 3 роки тому +149

      @@assassain0425
      *Roman Eagle Standard screaming in the background

    • @RexGalilae
      @RexGalilae 3 роки тому +64

      @@georgewu4051
      This is a reference to the American call for independence, not feminism.
      Back then, rich women enjoyed much better lives than the Middle Class working women that become instrumental to the feminist movement

    • @radiocalico9124
      @radiocalico9124 3 роки тому +7

      @Dani Al BASED

  • @germania5374
    @germania5374 Рік тому +870

    Brutus: "I will be remembered for my virtue."
    2000 years later: *The term Brutus is synonymous with betrayal*

    • @insomnius3447
      @insomnius3447 Рік тому +86

      I would say his legacy is pretty contestet. While Dante famously put him next to judas and cassius in the deepest part of the hell, voltaire, for example, praised him for standing up against tyranny.

    • @ultra-papasmurf
      @ultra-papasmurf Рік тому

      ​@@insomnius3447 the main positives ive seen from his legacy are from people who are in love with the Roman republic more then people who admire Brutus himself, this video alone show cases how unsavory he was offering to let the legions burn, loot and rape Roman cities with roman civilians and civilians under roman protection isnt really all that great and ideallic

    • @togekiss09
      @togekiss09 Рік тому +38

      And correct me if I'm getting the facts wrong but his name in Spanish is "bruto" which usually means "stupid"

    • @Derna1804
      @Derna1804 Рік тому +49

      @@togekiss09 The Brutus family name comes from Lucius Junius Brutus who founded the Roman republic by pretending to be stupid so the tyrant Tarquinius Superbus wouldn't suspect him of being dangerous and kill him, then inciting a revolution at the first good opportunity. The Roman legend was that he carried a walking stick made from a gnarled piece of wood with a gold rod hidden inside.

    • @jacobbeitner8796
      @jacobbeitner8796 Рік тому +4

      What a bruh moment right there

  • @a.h.tvideomapping4293
    @a.h.tvideomapping4293 3 роки тому +847

    >Assassinate Julius Caesar to depose a tyrant
    >Accidentally make him a god instead

    • @veljkoangelovski5349
      @veljkoangelovski5349 2 роки тому +27

      /task failed sucsesfully/

    • @piggyblitz4404
      @piggyblitz4404 2 роки тому +14

      Lorgar be like

    • @jacobkleinsasser5658
      @jacobkleinsasser5658 2 роки тому +7

      1. Assassinate Caesar.
      2. ?
      3. Profit.

    • @carval51
      @carval51 2 роки тому

      let be honest ransacking city to raise an army is it not the act of a tyrant themself?

    • @jerm70
      @jerm70 2 роки тому +3

      @@carval51 At that point Caesar was an enemy of Rome. You can't be a tyrant when you are dealing with an enemy threat in a cruel manner.

  • @tyrannicfool2503
    @tyrannicfool2503 3 роки тому +1099

    The first battle of Phillipi is probably the weirdest battle I have heard of:
    1) the battle starts by accident
    2) Brutus flanks his enemy BY ACCIDENT
    3) Brutus breaks his enemy but can’t take advantage of it because his troops decide to stay looting the enemy camp
    4) Anthony breaks his enemy by accident
    5) Cassius kills himself because he noticed cavalry approaching..... it was allied cavalry

    • @pandasniper1
      @pandasniper1 3 роки тому +41

      luck does play some importance in battle

    • @thelurkingrogue2442
      @thelurkingrogue2442 3 роки тому +3

      Cassius Spelled as Decimus,I need to put that there

    • @tyrannicfool2503
      @tyrannicfool2503 3 роки тому +1

      Neil Myron Quintos sorry I confused the names

    • @doomdrake123
      @doomdrake123 3 роки тому +5

      1 and 3 were soooo common.

    • @kspfan001
      @kspfan001 3 роки тому +54

      Anyone who has been in combat will tell you that plans fall apart upon contact with the enemy, instincts and/or training takes over, and at all times you can just get killed at random and there is nothing you can do to try and make sense of it. We really only hear about the exceptions to this, where uniquely talented officers & generals leverage extremely well disciplined & trained troops to pull off the maneuvers & victories we read about.
      However, throughout pre-modern history (and into today somewhat), much of human warfare has been waged by inbred nobles or entitled incompetents of ruling class. Typically surrounded by supporting leadership valued for it's mediocrity and inability to threaten the status quo, with poorly disciplined & trained conscripts, criminals, slaves etc and maybe a handful of decent veterans or mercenaries. Most battles boil down to two mobs of people being forced to kill each other by incompetents until one gives up or is destroyed. This gets even worse in modern war when people will likely get killed by something they never even saw coming (bomb/artillery/surprise gunfire).
      What I am trying to say is that Phillipi isn't that unusual if we consider what most battles were like. We are spoiled by focusing so much on the genius & glory of the few ppl & armies that were really successful at warfare into imaging that all warfare must be like that.

  • @TheSecondVersion
    @TheSecondVersion 3 роки тому +2799

    Good lord, it's like all the intelligence in Rome died with Caesar and Cicero

    • @marktulo
      @marktulo 3 роки тому +138

      Like kids in a sandbox

    • @Cicero82
      @Cicero82 3 роки тому +263

      Vito C because it did until Octavian grew a pair

    • @wizard680
      @wizard680 3 роки тому +168

      Tbf it kinda did. LOTS of people died before this happened

    • @wizard680
      @wizard680 3 роки тому +42

      @Lovecraft this is honestly a good question. We need a roman historian in the chat to help us out

    • @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046
      @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 3 роки тому +105

      When one of Sulla's supporters that became a reformer (Crassus) died and Caesar's Daughter died - Some intelligence died (End of first triumvirate)
      When Another one of Sulla's supporters that became a reformer that went back to the Optimates (Pompey) died, so did some more
      When Pompey's 4th father in law (Caesar died) - Almost all the intelligence in Rome died
      When Caesar's mistress's brother's brother in law's brother (Cicero) died- No longer was their any intelligence in Rome

  • @N0ahface
    @N0ahface 3 роки тому +4064

    Some say that after this battle Roman engineers were able to make aqueducts flow uphill for the next 20 years, powered solely by Caesar and Pompey spinning in their graves.

    • @starplays3718
      @starplays3718 2 роки тому +539

      Yeah fucking hell, watching Caesar and Pompey, heck even the Gauls (let's forget about Crassus) fight was like watching strategic geniuses, the likes of Scipio and Hannibal. And then in the second roman civil war I was already suspicious when there were a total of almost 40 legions in total, like bruh imagine if they had come together then and just attacked the rest of the world.

    • @BatCostumeGuy
      @BatCostumeGuy 2 роки тому +319

      @@starplays3718 40 legions? Holy cow, they could've just stream rolled Parthia with that many soldiers.

    • @veljkoangelovski5349
      @veljkoangelovski5349 2 роки тому +90

      shit that is the funniest and smartest joke ever made

    • @starplays3718
      @starplays3718 2 роки тому +101

      @@BatCostumeGuy This time it was Crassus's turn to spin in his grave.

    • @critter30002001
      @critter30002001 2 роки тому +27

      @@BatCostumeGuy imagine if the Mark Antony and done that with the survivors as a victory lap.

  • @christopherg2347
    @christopherg2347 3 роки тому +1288

    "Did you save Cassius?"
    "Well, he comitted suicide when he saw us coming..."

    • @adamantdane3896
      @adamantdane3896 3 роки тому +52

      Can you imagine lol

    • @sntslilhlpr6601
      @sntslilhlpr6601 3 роки тому +25

      @@adamantdane3896 lol probably should've used different colors.

    • @Guitcad1
      @Guitcad1 3 роки тому +6

      FAAAAAAAIL!!!

  • @bf3playstyles
    @bf3playstyles 3 роки тому +2309

    You can tell marc antony had served under caesar because he immediately started building fortifications lol.

    • @gabrielcastilho4168
      @gabrielcastilho4168 3 роки тому +239

      I was like: holy shit, another building race
      Last one was like what? 30Km of walls? Haha

    • @veljkoangelovski5349
      @veljkoangelovski5349 2 роки тому +40

      it is the roman wae

    • @Zarafin
      @Zarafin 2 роки тому +4

      @@veljkoangelovski5349 Do you know da wae?

    • @TheLouisianan
      @TheLouisianan 2 роки тому +27

      Ceaser first saw how useful Antony was at Alesia, but I do always notice that too. They love some fortifications.

    • @danielblanken4523
      @danielblanken4523 2 роки тому +9

      @@TheLouisianan they in the builder class fo sho

  • @georgewilson7432
    @georgewilson7432 3 роки тому +1692

    "Why would they do such a stupid thing?"
    This should be the preface to every history book.

    • @allanlank
      @allanlank 3 роки тому +17

      Too true.

    • @psikogeek
      @psikogeek 3 роки тому +27

      ...and political science book.......

    • @zealousdoggo
      @zealousdoggo 3 роки тому +35

      And just humanity in general

    • @attalan8732
      @attalan8732 3 роки тому +42

      Trial and error. Don't be cynical, be proud of how far we've come.
      But don't forget how far we have to go.

    • @hippophile
      @hippophile 3 роки тому

      ...and to the next video in this great series!! :))

  • @rickkcir2151
    @rickkcir2151 3 роки тому +1086

    One of the most important battles in Roman history, can be summed up as “what the hell is happening, there’s so many people and I have dust in my eyes”

    • @veljkoangelovski5349
      @veljkoangelovski5349 2 роки тому +65

      "also why did cassius kill himself after he got backup! and where is my COFFIE"

    • @laurakastrup
      @laurakastrup Рік тому +11

      There’s actually multiple battles in Roman history that could be summarised like that, the battle of Cannae, the battle of Carrhae and the battle of Philippi

    • @Immigrantlovesamerica
      @Immigrantlovesamerica Рік тому +3

      Ever heard of the "haze of war"?? That's exactly what it is. Ask any soldier you meet if they were ever NOT confused during battle.

    • @cormacb2326
      @cormacb2326 Рік тому

      @@laurakastrup
      Not really. Hannibal had a plan and it worked. Varro had a plan and it failed. No one had any plan in this shitshow.

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 10 місяців тому +4

      @@laurakastrup
      I’d think Cannae and Carrhae are more summed up as “FUCK FUCK FUCK” from the Roman perspective.

  • @spamhonx56
    @spamhonx56 3 роки тому +1856

    The romans apparently were also unable to have more than 20 units in a stack.

    • @disiesgroto1881
      @disiesgroto1881 3 роки тому +424

      Just further proof at the complete historic accuracy of the Total War games.

    • @MrJacobkoh
      @MrJacobkoh 3 роки тому +9

      🤣hahahaha. I remembered that!

    • @TheEnergizer94
      @TheEnergizer94 3 роки тому +128

      Altough in Total War they are half sized cohorts, not even amounting to one legion. I tried a mod with historical unit sizes but my god the fps goes down the drain

    • @KaguroDraven
      @KaguroDraven 3 роки тому +22

      @@TheEnergizer94 Rome 1 had accurate Cohort sizes at max unit size. 160 units. Each Century had 80 fighting men, and thus Cohorts were 160.

    • @sdhutusice6314
      @sdhutusice6314 3 роки тому +52

      @@KaguroDraven You mistake that with maniples. 2 centuries = 1 maniple. 6 centuries = 1 cohort

  • @phrophetsamgames
    @phrophetsamgames 3 роки тому +3187

    Brutus: promises his army that they could sack Roman cities*
    Also Brutus: I will be remembered for my virtue!

    • @WaterShowsProd
      @WaterShowsProd 3 роки тому +400

      Winds up being remembered for stabbing his friend and adopted kin in the, er... back.

    • @dukecity7688
      @dukecity7688 3 роки тому +60

      I thought the same thing. I am old and dropped out of school in 9th grade. It is wonderful to learn and it's also fun.

    • @NovaHessia
      @NovaHessia 3 роки тому +332

      @@64standardtrickyness The problem is not looting cities. The problem is looting *your own* cities. Cities that had already surrendered to Roman authority, so as to not get sacked and plundered. What Brutus promised was betrayal, plain and simply, and that was considered one of the worst sins back then. Worse than just plundering by itself.

    • @numalesoybea1348
      @numalesoybea1348 3 роки тому +5

      @@WaterShowsProd he did it to save Rome

    • @michaelferrell7924
      @michaelferrell7924 3 роки тому +126

      @@numalesoybea1348 as if Rome could have or even needed to be saved

  • @TheShadowOfMars
    @TheShadowOfMars 3 роки тому +2716

    Brutus: I will be remembered as a virtuous man
    Dante: Brutus suffers eternally in Lucifer's gnashing jaws at the absolute deepest point of Hell

    • @incanusolorin2607
      @incanusolorin2607 3 роки тому +315

      To be fair, Dante even puts Ulysses in Hell. There is no winning with that guy.

    • @c0sselburn
      @c0sselburn 3 роки тому +345

      @@incanusolorin2607 Ulysses is in the "best" part of Hell though. The first layer is devoid of torment and is reserved for virtuous people who lived before the birth of Jesus and thus could not be Christians but since they didn't do anything bad enough to warrant eternal punishment they just kinda chill in the void.

    • @incanusolorin2607
      @incanusolorin2607 3 роки тому +216

      Mahesvara That’s not where Ulysses is. He is tortured by being constantly set on fire with the false counselors.
      Ps: I only know the correct names in Italian. I’m sorry if “false counselors” isn’t the right translation of “consiglieri fraudolenti”.

    • @c0sselburn
      @c0sselburn 3 роки тому +184

      @@incanusolorin2607 Now that I think about it I believe I got Ulysses and Achilles mixed up

    • @Moonlitwatersofaqua
      @Moonlitwatersofaqua 3 роки тому +156

      I like to think that at least in the modern day people think more fondly of Brutus. Dante was a Roman empire stan, he hated the greeks, hated the catholic church, was a monarchist, and it shows. The guy is an apex of projecting your political opinions into your writing. The other guy who famously wrote about Brutus is Shakespeare. He was also a monarchist but he was far kinder to Brutus. Imagine if an American writer wrote a dramatic story about Rome. I feel they would remember Brutus as Brutus wanted to be remembered.

  • @thomasmay6215
    @thomasmay6215 3 роки тому +164

    I find it amazing that Brutus, prior to committing suicide, thought he would be remembered as a righteous man. Yet, when Dante wrote the Inferno, Brutus and Cassius are the two people in the mouth of Satan along with Judas --- the man who betrayed Christ. Like, you could not be more wrong about how you are remembered.

    • @julianapattison4785
      @julianapattison4785 10 місяців тому +9

      Fr, esp as octavian is vaguely remebered as the heroic first emperor of Rome

    • @4rumani
      @4rumani 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@julianapattison4785By who?

    • @richmont9557
      @richmont9557 5 місяців тому +3

      I consider cassius a hero. Brutus is an incompetent man

    • @zxylo786
      @zxylo786 5 місяців тому +5

      Who cares about what Dante thought.

    • @occam7382
      @occam7382 3 місяці тому +6

      @@zxylo786, he is kind of the creator of our modern conception of Hell, and somewhat contributed to the creation of the modern Italian language. So... a lot of people.

  • @pepijnkruiswijk2182
    @pepijnkruiswijk2182 3 роки тому +808

    I would really like to know more on Sulla's period. He's a bit overshadowed because of Ceasars tims, but I know nothing of this cruel dictator Sulla.

    • @federicoarmada8775
      @federicoarmada8775 3 роки тому +13

      This

    • @Hugh_Morris
      @Hugh_Morris 3 роки тому +92

      From all I've read Sulla wasn't cruel. He murdered political opponents yes, but so did Marius when he killed Sulla's supporters. Marius was a "man of the people" and so doesn't get painted with the same brush as Sulla, despite being just as devious.

    • @federicoarmada8775
      @federicoarmada8775 3 роки тому +144

      @@splatm4n8 It's not the same without the squares

    • @splatm4n8
      @splatm4n8 3 роки тому +4

      @@federicoarmada8775 true

    • @TheCloud175
      @TheCloud175 3 роки тому +17

      Dan Carlin’s “Death Throes of The Republic” covers the period before Caesar very well.

  • @JRMusic933
    @JRMusic933 3 роки тому +5829

    I've gotten so used to following Caesar and his practically impeccable tactics, so watching two (I guess four?) armies blunder about like this is pretty jarring.

    • @HistoriaCivilis
      @HistoriaCivilis  3 роки тому +2372

      lol same

    • @joaopedroalmeidacaetano1619
      @joaopedroalmeidacaetano1619 3 роки тому +772

      I was expecting some king of wall being built around the enemy, but all i got was a really big brawl.

    • @TheAustronaut03
      @TheAustronaut03 3 роки тому +315

      @Domantas propably one of the reasons Ceasar was so surprised at his political incompetence.

    • @ethanalspencer7294
      @ethanalspencer7294 3 роки тому +663

      You could even see Antony was kinda going for the good ol' "lets just build a wall around em" strat.

    • @nobblkpraetorian5623
      @nobblkpraetorian5623 3 роки тому +139

      Where was Agrippa in this? Did he contribute to the battle?

  • @rin_etoware_2989
    @rin_etoware_2989 3 роки тому +335

    brutus, after allowing his soldiers to sack two Roman cities after they win Philippi: *VIRTUE, GENTLEMEN. I AM VIRTUOUS.*

    • @jarradscarborough7915
      @jarradscarborough7915 3 роки тому +27

      just goes to show, people are usually blind to themselves

    • @ruanpingshan
      @ruanpingshan 3 роки тому +3

      I just don't get why Antony insisted that Brutus had noble intentions even after Philippi. He was alleged to have stabbed Caesar in the groin, after all (revenge for Caesar boning Brutus' mother?). Also, didn't Brutus' father-in-law take up arms against Caesar and then brutally commit suicide when he lost?

    • @zaleost
      @zaleost 3 роки тому +3

      I believe that this is largely one of those situations where you have such a strong distain for the people you are fighting against that through your eyes anything done to thwart them is seen as just. Really its just fooling yourself in to believing you're the good guy despite doing things that are just as bad the "bad guy" you want to take down.

    • @darkseidshrike6165
      @darkseidshrike6165 3 роки тому +2

      ruanpingshan Yes he did. And he decided to side with the guy that executed his father (Pompey) against Ceasar.

    • @LeBaron101
      @LeBaron101 3 роки тому

      At least he died a happy man, it's the only thing one can hope for in life

  • @Kanner111
    @Kanner111 2 роки тому +41

    Antony: "I have actually been in a battle before".
    Cassius: "I know several dudes who have been in a battle before."
    Brutus: *hurriedly leafing through Battles 101* "Okay thin line good thick line bad LETS GO GUYS."
    Octavian: "I have a note from my father excusing me from the battle."
    Also, Brutus not coming to help when it would be most useful is pretty much the whole vibe of the Republican Resistance.

  • @nostro1940
    @nostro1940 3 роки тому +197

    Legend says that History Civilis is waiting for Senator Aquila's approval to upload the next video

    • @Rocklahaulle
      @Rocklahaulle 3 роки тому +2

      Massively underrated comment 😂😂

    • @brianreinboldjr
      @brianreinboldjr 2 роки тому +1

      @@Rocklahaulle only the real ones respect this comment lol

    • @danielblanken4523
      @danielblanken4523 2 роки тому +13

      @@brianreinboldjr real real ones know it’s actually Tribune Aquila

    • @nostro1940
      @nostro1940 2 роки тому +3

      @@danielblanken4523 he is still a senator

    • @eldorados_lost_searcher
      @eldorados_lost_searcher Рік тому

      @@nostro1940
      Well, Aquila is certainly not *a CONSUL OF ROME!*

  • @georgewu4051
    @georgewu4051 3 роки тому +830

    Phillippi: A battle where Antony is miraculously the highest stat general

    • @squiglemcsquigle8414
      @squiglemcsquigle8414 3 роки тому +76

      Horrifying

    • @Paddythelaad
      @Paddythelaad 3 роки тому +50

      They are sorely missing good generals, or at least not appointing those that deserve it. Who still alive would have been better? Caesar, Labienus, Pompey (both opposite side I know) were gone and for some reason Lepidus was left in Italy.
      Antony wasn't that bad tho right? I heard some flaws but Caesar seemed to mostly approve of him and he did well on a ~micro level in Alesia.

    • @VAWM.
      @VAWM. 3 роки тому +77

      @@Paddythelaad I imagine Lepidus was left behind because he was the most competent administrator of the three. Antony demonstrated his political incompetence when Caesar left him in charge of Rome, and a good portion of the city still hated him for it. Octavian was young and an unknown quantity at that point. The Triumvirs might have thought the morale boost the troops would get for being lead by "The Son of Caesar" would be better than any administrative skills Octavian possessed.
      Edited because somehow I wrote Labienus instead of Lepidus the first time.

    • @Paddythelaad
      @Paddythelaad 3 роки тому +11

      @@VAWM. That was my thinking too. Lepidus left behind, I assume you meant that. Im mostly surprised the sub-commanders didn't do better on both sides.

    • @TheShadowOfMars
      @TheShadowOfMars 3 роки тому +46

      @@VAWM. Anthony and Octavian bitterly mistrusted each other, but they both trusted Lepidus to honour the triumvirate agreement. The chaotic game-of-thrones from the last episode could resume at any moment if one of them had an army under his individual control and decided to backstab his rival. Leading an army jointly together was their way of preventing that.

  • @photon4076
    @photon4076 3 роки тому +313

    The battle of the four idiots:
    Octavian and Cassius: normally not idiots but act like idiots during this battle
    Mark Anthony: normally an idiot but doesn't act like an idiot during this battle
    Brutus: normally an idiot, an idiot here as well

    • @proaaron578
      @proaaron578 3 роки тому +1

      lool

    • @georgewu4051
      @georgewu4051 3 роки тому +47

      I was gonna say if Antony is the highest stat general in this fight then Roma really has lost all their stars

    • @dyingearth
      @dyingearth 3 роки тому +53

      @@georgewu4051 Octavian basically let his friend and ally Agrippa do the actual command of his legions. When you don't know what you're doing, let the professional do the job and get out of their way. At least he know his limitation and sought proper assistance.

    • @malekiththeeternityking5433
      @malekiththeeternityking5433 3 роки тому +4

      This comment is stupid

    • @pez4
      @pez4 3 роки тому +9

      Anthony: good tactics, mediocre strategy

  • @SurvivorMaster
    @SurvivorMaster 2 роки тому +71

    Hortensia's speech is a really great piece of historical literature, I'm glad you read it.

  • @ThommyofThenn
    @ThommyofThenn Рік тому +44

    19:18 "The second battle of Philippi...so called because it was the second battle that took place near the area known as Philippi" you can tell this man is a real competent historian.

  • @samuelsisk1161
    @samuelsisk1161 3 роки тому +1666

    Brutus: “Happy Birthday! Here are some horsies!”
    Cassius: “Kill me immediately”

    • @samuelsisk1161
      @samuelsisk1161 3 роки тому +7

      a10001110101 this is an amazing community

    • @frodoswaggins3132
      @frodoswaggins3132 3 роки тому +5

      F

    • @yang_zhao
      @yang_zhao 3 роки тому +2

      what about some unicorns?

    • @the_rover1
      @the_rover1 3 роки тому +9

      parthian commander to marcus crassus: have some horsies and flying pointy sticks!
      crassus: quick, run onto the hill!

    • @amcghie7
      @amcghie7 3 роки тому +1

      What can I say, the guy just really didn't like horses...

  • @phrophetsamgames
    @phrophetsamgames 3 роки тому +431

    Red Square: I'm gonna do what's called a pro gamer move
    Red Square: gets declared a god*

    • @assassain0425
      @assassain0425 3 роки тому +8

      Make this an actual meme. Like the template make it this communities meme.

  • @N0ahface
    @N0ahface 3 роки тому +302

    All I could think about during the battle was how much Caesar would've wiped the floor with them. It probably would have been one of his most celebrated victories too, beating 17 legions with probably hardly any casualties.

    • @alejomandafull
      @alejomandafull 2 роки тому +77

      let's be honest all those legions would've defected to caesar before any actual blows

    • @hihi-nm3uy
      @hihi-nm3uy 2 роки тому +28

      @@alejomandafull
      they wouldnt defect because they’d already be on caesar’s side
      the battle would cease to exist because no competition would occur

    • @alejomandafull
      @alejomandafull 2 роки тому +6

      @@hihi-nm3uy yeah we can see that
      we're talking about a what if
      if caesar had to face an army that big

    • @Saurophaganax1931
      @Saurophaganax1931 9 місяців тому +1

      Caesar could have brought just his 9 legions against their 17 just to make it somewhat fair.

    • @KaiHung-wv3ul
      @KaiHung-wv3ul 7 місяців тому

      @@Saurophaganax1931
      "Sir they outnumber us 2 to 1!"
      "Then it's a fair fight."

  • @chaptap8376
    @chaptap8376 3 роки тому +69

    After all the ingenuity that Julius Caesar pulled off, this is one of the funniest battles on this channel. It beats the heavy infantry who kept marching out of the battle.

  • @aveioacosta371
    @aveioacosta371 3 роки тому +823

    "Roman legions being incompetent"
    "Caesar turning in his grave so hard he causes earthquakes"

    • @hydrogenatom4624
      @hydrogenatom4624 3 роки тому +18

      Don't read my username.

    • @VasilyKiryanov
      @VasilyKiryanov 3 роки тому +41

      Caesar spent YEARS building up his legions' competence. And his commanders' too.

    • @ThiagoSilveira1
      @ThiagoSilveira1 3 роки тому +23

      So now I know why Vesuvius erupted

    • @LordIsrafel
      @LordIsrafel 3 роки тому +17

      The earthquakes cause choppy waves.
      The sailors, terrified at how much larger the waves were than the weather should allow, believe it to be a sign from the gods and throw Brutus's head into the sea.

    • @phrophetsamgames
      @phrophetsamgames 3 роки тому +2

      Don't Read My Profile Picture that was incredibly awesome

  • @megad7060
    @megad7060 3 роки тому +612

    Glad hes continuing with the end of the republic. Most history youtubers like to drop it after Caesar dies. Augustus' story deserves more retelling than just HBO

    • @JayKayDanks
      @JayKayDanks 3 роки тому +28

      I couldn't even make it to Julius Caesar's death, they were doing Cleopatra so dirty

    • @AndrewTheFrank
      @AndrewTheFrank 3 роки тому +74

      Most historian youtubers stop at the death of Caesar so that the virtues of Brutus can be remembered.

    • @TheDavid22
      @TheDavid22 3 роки тому +17

      @@JayKayDanks how so? I thought they made her a shrewd political player

    • @ugojlachapelle
      @ugojlachapelle 3 роки тому +10

      @@AndrewTheFrank I see what you did there.

    • @thewayfarer8849
      @thewayfarer8849 3 роки тому +3

      I find this period more interesting honestly

  • @user-lf9sv8gw7k
    @user-lf9sv8gw7k 3 роки тому +51

    Ceaser in his grave must've been like: Why the f*ck am I going through another stroke, I'm already dead

  • @barkasz6066
    @barkasz6066 3 роки тому +81

    Brutus and Cassius were holding out for that sweet book deal: “How to lose completely while having both the strategic and tactical advantage 101.”

  • @JRMusic933
    @JRMusic933 3 роки тому +398

    "The concept of economics hadn't been invented yet, and it shows" lmao

    • @alphamikeomega5728
      @alphamikeomega5728 3 роки тому +47

      Literally not stonks

    • @pez4
      @pez4 3 роки тому +18

      Roman tax collection was poopoo

    • @Urpuss
      @Urpuss 3 роки тому +4

      @@alphamikeomega5728 No stonks? Why live ;_;

    • @MillenniumRP
      @MillenniumRP 3 роки тому +1

      @@pez4 Augustus will fix that ;)

    • @IndieGinge
      @IndieGinge 3 роки тому

      @@pez4 didn't they basically subcontract it to the guy who they thought would get them the most $? Or was that another ancient society's incredibly stupid way of doing things?

  • @Corfean
    @Corfean 3 роки тому +832

    Brutus: I will be remembered as a virtuous man
    *Becomes the most famous traitor in world's history *

    • @g.sergiusfidenas6650
      @g.sergiusfidenas6650 3 роки тому +57

      @SrBeetleVase brutus already meant idiot or dullard in those days, the romans had funny naming conventions Fabius came from their word for bean, Cicero from peas, Ahala means armpit, and so on; funny that the word bruto has been used in the same way for over 3000 years.

    • @silverdeathgamer2907
      @silverdeathgamer2907 3 роки тому +105

      I mean I don't think he was an infamous as Judas.

    • @SimuLord
      @SimuLord 3 роки тому +33

      @@g.sergiusfidenas6650 Without the Carthaginians, I doubt we'd call weaklings "puny" today. Language is funny like that.

    • @barkasz6066
      @barkasz6066 3 роки тому +14

      Silverdeathgamer290 the most famous historical person anyway. Myths are a whole different topic.

    • @barkasz6066
      @barkasz6066 3 роки тому +35

      Fox D except it’s not true. Puny comes from 16th century French “puisne” which in turn comes from late Latin “postea ne” “afterwards born” which was a legal category denoting inferior rank. It has nothing to do with the Punic Wars. Punic derives from the Latin poenus and punicus, which were used mostly to refer to the Carthaginians and other western Phoenicians. These terms derived from the Ancient Greek word Φοῖνιξ (Phoinix), pl. Φοίνικες (Phoinikes), which was used indiscriminately to refer to both western and eastern Phoenicians. Latin later borrowed the Greek term a second time as phoenix.

  • @Mrqwerty2109
    @Mrqwerty2109 3 роки тому +91

    These videos are some of the best content on the internet and they are literally just a man talking about a bunch of squares.

  • @Macy_Freya
    @Macy_Freya 3 роки тому +280

    Why is my adopted son such a wimp when it comes to fighting? I doubt he’ll ever come to anything.

    • @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046
      @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 3 роки тому +24

      Boy do I have a story to tell you - But first - Was the time travel fun?

    • @DanishCamp
      @DanishCamp 3 роки тому +2

      Technically you never knew he was adopted as it happened after your death

    • @decimusausoniusmagnus5719
      @decimusausoniusmagnus5719 3 роки тому +5

      Should've adopted an heir that wasn't such a wimp.

    • @omnomnomnomm
      @omnomnomnomm 2 роки тому +7

      IMPERATORRR

    • @cursedmailman3999
      @cursedmailman3999 2 роки тому +4

      @@DanishCamp Presumably he knew Octavian was his son when he was getting assassinated, since he had written in his will and probably knew he was going to die

  • @hamd8375
    @hamd8375 3 роки тому +1648

    The lord of the squares cometh! Rejoice! Rejoice!

    • @Dave_Sisson
      @Dave_Sisson 3 роки тому +47

      Yes, his work is wonderful to behold, but it's not quite as good without the jaunty monophonic synth tune at the end. :-(

    • @BICfootball92
      @BICfootball92 3 роки тому +8

      Hazaaah hazaaah!!!!!

    • @MrDUneven
      @MrDUneven 3 роки тому +3

      Gaudete!

    • @jamescusack6511
      @jamescusack6511 3 роки тому +4

      *Rejoicing sounds*

    • @SimuLord
      @SimuLord 3 роки тому +4

      The square is dead. Long live the square.

  • @DCdabest
    @DCdabest 3 роки тому +518

    I'm a simple pleb. I see Historia Civilis. I click Ave.

    • @uri_9158.
      @uri_9158. 3 роки тому +10

      DCdabest Nah, you're not a pleb. Everyone that watches Historia Civilis are patricians.

    • @EthanDyTioco
      @EthanDyTioco 3 роки тому +7

      Jotarô Kujo every man a patrician

    • @procrastinator99
      @procrastinator99 3 роки тому +1

      @@uri_9158. I like the way you think.

    • @ablus
      @ablus 3 роки тому +2

      @@EthanDyTioco Hueyus Longinus

  • @saritar1000
    @saritar1000 3 роки тому +188

    Here's the battle summarized in 3 words :
    "Wow, that...worked..?"

  • @yiftacheliav1099
    @yiftacheliav1099 3 роки тому +259

    Honestly, the part where brutus and friends went up the mountains and just went on a four day of simply "living" and having fun made me smile... I mean, after so much turmoil, stress, death, war and loss, what better thing to do than have a 4 days bender of drinking and reciting greek poetry with your buddies?

    • @dam11232
      @dam11232 3 роки тому +51

      Yeah but the whole time brutus knew he was gonna off himself
      Thats crazy

    • @yiftacheliav1099
      @yiftacheliav1099 3 роки тому +32

      @@dam11232 and that's what makes it even more poetic

    • @Ozymannaz
      @Ozymannaz 2 роки тому +11

      Victory. Victory is better.

    • @yiftacheliav1099
      @yiftacheliav1099 2 роки тому +9

      @@Ozymannaz idk man, just more turmoil and political schemes to deal with...

    • @napoleonbuonaparte8975
      @napoleonbuonaparte8975 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@yiftacheliav1099I mean, Octavian won so much that nobody else was there to plot against him tbf.

  • @Vienna3080
    @Vienna3080 3 роки тому +365

    So this is how democracy dies, with thunderous incompetency

    • @yamingoat
      @yamingoat 3 роки тому +7

      Just Vienna this is a great quote lmfao

    • @arawn1061
      @arawn1061 3 роки тому +9

      It really hurts after seeing Caesars career

    • @BoxStudioExecutive
      @BoxStudioExecutive 3 роки тому +4

      What democracy?

    • @Vienna3080
      @Vienna3080 3 роки тому +15

      Domanta Spot the 12 year old

    • @Desintyx2
      @Desintyx2 3 роки тому +1

      *attempts to clap and misses each hand*

  • @pizzagolfer
    @pizzagolfer 3 роки тому +277

    Brutus: I will die a honorable man.
    Also Brutus: Ayyy men, wanna sack some Roman cities???

    • @rogerpark3684
      @rogerpark3684 3 роки тому +34

      And yes, Brutus is an honourable man

    • @speggeri90
      @speggeri90 3 роки тому +14

      @@rogerpark3684 Undoubtedly they are all honorable men

    • @theholyinquisition389
      @theholyinquisition389 3 роки тому +9

      @Domantas *Killed his adoptive father to save the Republic

    • @AlexhandrDenthanor
      @AlexhandrDenthanor 3 роки тому +27

      @@theholyinquisition389 *Murdered his adoptive father - who truly, deeply, sincerely loved him - out of ideological loyalty to a rotting carcass that was already dead and gone.

    • @Chaika1974
      @Chaika1974 3 роки тому +23

      He is remembered as a staple of treachery. He went down in history as one of the most infamous people in Rome

  • @Samdaman747
    @Samdaman747 3 роки тому +60

    Little cubes should not display so much emotion but here we are. Amazing how clear the story is with a few colors, very well done. The binge has been real with this channel and I've loved every minute of it.

  • @myownmusic8182
    @myownmusic8182 3 роки тому +74

    If Historia Civilis doesn't release another video soon, I'm going to Brutus myself

    • @oofnack
      @oofnack 3 роки тому

      he released a video on patrion. doubt he wouldn't

    • @kaizokujimbei143
      @kaizokujimbei143 3 роки тому +3

      Please, don't... Brutulise yourself. xD

  • @tigersharkwoo
    @tigersharkwoo 3 роки тому +479

    this was impresive levels of inconpetance

    • @jarradscarborough7915
      @jarradscarborough7915 3 роки тому +38

      *impressive *incompetence (irony or just not native to english?)

    • @current9300
      @current9300 3 роки тому +35

      I've always felt that accidents and incompetence makes for most interesting history, especially when people screwing up are given a victory they also screw up.

    • @acebalistic1358
      @acebalistic1358 3 роки тому +2

      Tigersharkwoo you got pinned gg

    • @HistoriaCivilis
      @HistoriaCivilis  3 роки тому +140

      [Sheev.jpg] Ironic. [/Sheev.jpg]

    • @dorylaions
      @dorylaions 3 роки тому +3

      why is this comment pinned? Is he doing a social experiment or something, lol?

  • @nemanjaarbutina8671
    @nemanjaarbutina8671 3 роки тому +838

    Rome: Makes Caesar a God
    Tribune Aquila: I do not approve of this

    • @radrook4481
      @radrook4481 3 роки тому +3

      Were they actually attacking those women under Hortensia? LOL!

    • @cdcdrr
      @cdcdrr 3 роки тому +59

      @Carlos Adrián Aguirre Julius Caesar: Memelord of Antiquity

    • @slate1496
      @slate1496 3 роки тому +21

      ok guys tribune aquilla says no so caesar isnt a god amymore

    • @ECHOFOXTROT289
      @ECHOFOXTROT289 3 роки тому

      LMAOO

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 3 роки тому +6

      The real joke is that in about 400 years someone else with a name starting with A will not approve of this and he'll actually get his way.

  • @Sadaran89
    @Sadaran89 3 роки тому +35

    "But why would they do a stupid thing like that?"
    Find out in the next episode of Dragon Rome Z!

  • @ashgames417
    @ashgames417 3 роки тому +100

    Just imagine what Caesar could do with 17 legions.

  • @jonjameson2629
    @jonjameson2629 3 роки тому +471

    The irony is Brutus probably ended up killing himself with the same hand he used to murder Julius Caesar.

    • @MillenniumRP
      @MillenniumRP 3 роки тому +100

      Funny how everybody but Octavian was stabbed to death.

    • @MillenniumRP
      @MillenniumRP 3 роки тому +83

      @off baperan Octavian was the Imperator.

    • @snappysnoot7540
      @snappysnoot7540 3 роки тому +3

      I think he fell on his sword

    • @natanshick
      @natanshick 2 роки тому +3

      @@MillenniumRP Dude spoilers

    • @AudieHolland
      @AudieHolland 2 роки тому

      @Garren *Augustus:*
      "Octavian? Who?"

  • @FireFox2382
    @FireFox2382 3 роки тому +3331

    I laughed so hard when he said Brutus accidentally flanked Octavian's army. How do you accidentally win a battle xD

    • @program4215
      @program4215 3 роки тому +493

      When both sides are so poorly led that's basically the only outcome. It is pretty funny

    • @lathrael7152
      @lathrael7152 3 роки тому +79

      That's Brutus for you.

    • @will2003michael2003
      @will2003michael2003 3 роки тому +249

      Happens more often then any general would ever want to admit.

    • @kalebburris6425
      @kalebburris6425 3 роки тому +1

      Oh my god, me too

    • @anthonycampbell97
      @anthonycampbell97 3 роки тому +68

      is there a list of accidentally-won battles?

  • @SuperNintendawg
    @SuperNintendawg 3 роки тому +114

    That anecdote about Hortensia was absolutely fascinating. She marched into a public event, seized the mic from three of the most powerful men in the world, accused them of murdering Romans, articulated ideas about gender, governance, taxation, all thousands of years ahead of her time, and actually won. Beyond brave.

    • @masterexploder9668
      @masterexploder9668 Рік тому +11

      Hortensia kind of forgot she didn't live in XX century CE.

    • @glovesflared
      @glovesflared 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@masterexploder9668she got what she wanted anyway despite the roman republic's severe sexism, that makes her accomplishment even more incredibly impressive

    • @notapuma
      @notapuma Місяць тому

      ​@@glovesflared"severe sexism", boy oh boy do you need to reread your Roman History.
      Roman's actually gave Roman Women (patricians) lots of leeway and power, especially since their husbands were often away on campaign and unable to manage their estates.
      If the Romans were "sexist" (ie, treating women like they always have been up until the 20th century), they would've been far more harsh than just giving in to their demands.

  • @chethanrao9994
    @chethanrao9994 3 роки тому +17

    ceasar and pompey watching all this from the underworld
    "we fought a civil war for this?"

  • @MrSamulai
    @MrSamulai 3 роки тому +246

    Caesar was playing 4D chess with his enemies. I don't know what these guys were doing, but I'm pretty sure someone ate the rulebook.

    • @Cicero82
      @Cicero82 3 роки тому +10

      MrSamulai they tried to win on a Draw 4 in Uno.

    • @HolyKhaaaaan
      @HolyKhaaaaan 3 роки тому +7

      "Numbers! Sheer numbers!"

    • @blither4656
      @blither4656 3 роки тому +7

      "Hey let's tax HALF of all from yield what could go wrong"

    • @blither4656
      @blither4656 3 роки тому

      Farm* not from

    • @leonardofranzinribeiro4220
      @leonardofranzinribeiro4220 3 роки тому +1

      @@doomdrake123 I mean, i hate that guy, but he was definitely a great strategist. Though he did get Lucky many times.

  • @emermage
    @emermage 3 роки тому +729

    Caesar vs Pompey:
    Full mankind's military brilliancy from both sides
    Brutus vs Octavian:
    Two kids, trying to slap each other, trying to look like their elders from the first part of my comment, only slaping themselves instead

    • @Cicero82
      @Cicero82 3 роки тому +5

      Денис Баннов 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

    • @UncleMerlin
      @UncleMerlin 3 роки тому +67

      It's what can you expect from statesmen.
      Caesar and Pompey were generals.

    • @allancg1022
      @allancg1022 3 роки тому +48

      Caesar and Pompey, especially Caesar, were both

    • @demitriusrawluk5747
      @demitriusrawluk5747 3 роки тому +33

      @@UncleMerlin Antony was anything but a statesman

    • @yunleung2631
      @yunleung2631 3 роки тому +11

      Hell, Caesar vs Vercingetorix

  • @guardian-angel615
    @guardian-angel615 Рік тому +25

    I feel sad for both Cassius and Antony. Having to put up with shitty teammates sucks a lot.

    • @Saurophaganax1931
      @Saurophaganax1931 9 місяців тому

      I’d feel a lot worse for Cassius and Antony if they hadn’t done such shitty things prior to this. Sacking Roman cities and selling their inhabitants into slavery? Pretty shitty Cassius. Murdering Cicero? You’re garbage Antony. Pure. Garbage.

    • @sarasamaletdin4574
      @sarasamaletdin4574 8 місяців тому +1

      Cassius himself made the biggest mistake personally, even if he could have had military potential. Brutus might have lost right there if he had not bribed the legions

  • @zheng7636
    @zheng7636 3 роки тому +13

    15:44
    When this series wants to be eerie, it can be surprisingly eerie.
    *Happy birthday.*

  • @mattthedoormat
    @mattthedoormat 3 роки тому +558

    I waited almost 2 months for 20 minutes of Roman history.
    It was worth the wait.

    • @wyattrox03
      @wyattrox03 3 роки тому +5

      Or you could become a patron and get access 10 days earlier

    • @HalfdanMCMX
      @HalfdanMCMX 3 роки тому +11

      Last one Rome video came out 4 months ago :( It's been a long time, been a long time
      Been a long lonely, lonely, lonely, lonely, lonely time.

    • @alexanderman1000
      @alexanderman1000 3 роки тому +1

      You should seek counseling. I used to be an imperium junkie myself. I still watch Rome during Trajan but i am clean.

  • @Serioussux
    @Serioussux 3 роки тому +30

    "Its hard to imagine how they could possibly screw this up, unless they turned on each other or something. But why would they do a stupid thing like that?" - Man, i cant wait for the sequel! :D

  • @PossessedPotatoBird
    @PossessedPotatoBird Рік тому +4

    3:05, I find this really funny
    Like they just started collecting the triumphants family

  • @Jesse__H
    @Jesse__H 3 роки тому +595

    I'm digging that "Slightly More Historically Accurate Senate Building Glam Up" 👉😊👉

    • @acebalistic1358
      @acebalistic1358 3 роки тому +10

      Jesse H. Same

    • @HistoriaCivilis
      @HistoriaCivilis  3 роки тому +310

      After cutting to the Senate for the 10,000th time, I figured that "Lazy Senate Background" finally had to go.

    • @acebalistic1358
      @acebalistic1358 3 роки тому +39

      Historia Civilis I shall miss the old senate house, but I guess it’s for the best.

    • @yochaiwyss3843
      @yochaiwyss3843 3 роки тому +41

      @@HistoriaCivilis technically we can say it's after renovation post burning down

    • @thepaintpad9817
      @thepaintpad9817 3 роки тому +2

      @@HistoriaCivilis I like the old one more, but it's for the best.

  • @MrEggsauce
    @MrEggsauce 3 роки тому +772

    On a previous episode of Historia Civilis: "...Brutis's first instinct seems to always be to wait, which is an alarming trait for a leader."
    Current episode:
    "I CHOOSE TO WAIT"

  • @matthewlillywhite8014
    @matthewlillywhite8014 3 роки тому +10

    I rewatch the whole series that Historia Civilis does from Cicero’s year until this moment every couple of months and every time I get depressed that there isn’t more... looking forward to the next episode

  • @lordedmundblackadder9321
    @lordedmundblackadder9321 Рік тому +5

    “Octavian had a habit of falling ill at convenient times” same

  • @hannahrothwell890
    @hannahrothwell890 3 роки тому +728

    “The concept of economics had not been invented yet, and... it shows” lol

    • @Fronzel41
      @Fronzel41 3 роки тому +51

      Politicians still try to squeeze the tax base to fund their pet schemes and are still surprised when it gets up and walks away. See California.

    • @couldbeanybody2508
      @couldbeanybody2508 3 роки тому +11

      @Ved Singh pre feudal rome was better than feudal Europe 😈😈😈😈

    • @couldbeanybody2508
      @couldbeanybody2508 3 роки тому +3

      @Ved Singh HAHAHAH bald

    • @couldbeanybody2508
      @couldbeanybody2508 3 роки тому +3

      @Ved Singh you are bald

    • @Leo-ip3yx
      @Leo-ip3yx 3 роки тому

      @Ved Singh LOL HOLY SHIT HE REALLY IS BALD 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @guibaterasoad
    @guibaterasoad 3 роки тому +163

    You realize how good of a general Caesar is when you have a battle with 4 generals and all of them are bad.

    • @MillenniumRP
      @MillenniumRP 3 роки тому +36

      @CommandoDude Caesar was a genius of a general, but you got admit that dude was super lucky at times.

    • @Lucas-po6mn
      @Lucas-po6mn 3 роки тому +53

      @@MillenniumRP Caesar definitely had some lucky moments, but it takes skill to seize those opportunities

    • @titusmanlius6922
      @titusmanlius6922 3 роки тому +11

      Antony was actually an excellent cavalry commander with battle experience

    • @yeeter5328
      @yeeter5328 3 роки тому +1

      @@titusmanlius6922yeah and that was before the gaulic wars to I beleive, and he prolly wouldve learnt a lot under ceaser

    • @aakarshasoka6335
      @aakarshasoka6335 3 роки тому +4

      Caeser's era had a lot of great generals and military commanders. Caeser, Pompey, Vercingeterix......

  • @perigrin2115
    @perigrin2115 3 роки тому +18

    As a massive history geek lemme just say props to you for making a lot of normal human beings who are not nearly as autistic as us interested in roman politics and moving squares

  • @perturabo7825
    @perturabo7825 3 роки тому +13

    “We’re just trying to get you to turn against your own husband! And you rudely send us away?!” -Hortensia probably

  • @RGP43_
    @RGP43_ 3 роки тому +919

    Tribune Aquila does not approve this message

  • @DensetsuVII
    @DensetsuVII 3 роки тому +278

    *spoilers 21:15 "It's hard to imagine how they could screw this up, unless they turned on each other or something, but why would they do a stupid thing like that!"
    *Cleopatra has entered the chat

  • @davestewart5224
    @davestewart5224 3 роки тому +2

    This series is absolutely enthralling. Some of the best content I’ve ever seen on UA-cam. Can’t wait to see what happened next ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @kelseythurman2314
    @kelseythurman2314 3 роки тому +2

    Please don't ever stop. These videos are absolutely amazing. Thank you for bringing these to us for free!

  • @darkseidshrike6165
    @darkseidshrike6165 3 роки тому +1221

    Brutus: I will be remembered for my virtue.
    Historian: We are not questioning your virtue Brutus. We are denying it’s existence.

    • @IndieGinge
      @IndieGinge 3 роки тому +98

      @@caiawlodarski5339 That's really not true. Historians usually try not to "moralize" but they very often do make value judgments of the choices of those they study.
      The work of history is a work of storytelling after all. An attempt to piece together events separated from us by time and space into a coherent, explitive narrative to create an understanding of the past using the barest scraps of info. This story is not a simple morality fable, so we don't see historians usually crafting "good guys and bad guys" but judgments of what choices were made always happen. It's the way of things.

    • @frederickthegreat5456
      @frederickthegreat5456 3 роки тому +21

      But... Shakespeare
      I mean, I'm willing to bet that more people are aware of Brutus in Julius Caesar than Brutus in real life.

    • @vinuzo9548
      @vinuzo9548 3 роки тому +20

      Ah cut him some slack, he's better than Marc Antony.

    • @micah8488
      @micah8488 3 роки тому +21

      I don't think he'd care to have his virtue questioned by an imp.

    • @darkseidshrike6165
      @darkseidshrike6165 3 роки тому +8

      @@micah8488 Finally someone understood that reference!

  • @kaulquapil6280
    @kaulquapil6280 3 роки тому +197

    I miss the old beat at the end

  • @novacorp7110
    @novacorp7110 3 роки тому +55

    “Remembered for his virtue” welp that did not age well

    • @SerunaXI
      @SerunaXI 3 роки тому +1

      "Remembered for his virtue" He's probably referring to his strict policy of waiting.

  • @frankbaiamonte3158
    @frankbaiamonte3158 Рік тому

    This is probably my 3rd or 4th time watching through this video. Great job narrating and commenting these videos are why I love history so much. Your story telling and speculation of sources shows history is so much more than a fact of a matter but a dynamic story with many different truths and perspectives. Keep up the good work.

  • @clayallen4955
    @clayallen4955 3 роки тому +299

    “We got you a present for your birthday, death!”
    “Oh you guys.”

    • @BlitzerXYZ
      @BlitzerXYZ 3 роки тому +5

      Just what I asked for!

    • @merrittanimation7721
      @merrittanimation7721 3 роки тому +5

      "You shouldn’t have! No really, I wanted live through this."

    • @Mitaka.Kotsuka
      @Mitaka.Kotsuka 3 роки тому

      No better present for traitors =)

    • @BlitzerXYZ
      @BlitzerXYZ 3 роки тому

      @@Mitaka.Kotsuka that's like saying the Jedi were traitors.

    • @Mitaka.Kotsuka
      @Mitaka.Kotsuka 3 роки тому

      @@BlitzerXYZ errr.... kinda dont like star wars, so i kind of sont know what the Jedi actually are, i heard the name but, nothing else

  • @saidtoshimaru1832
    @saidtoshimaru1832 3 роки тому +173

    Brutus: I will be remembered for my Virtue.
    Dante: I was looking for someone to cast into Satan's three jaws next to Judas and Casius.

    • @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046
      @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 3 роки тому +7

      I mean - Brutus was a horrible person

    • @flyerton99
      @flyerton99 3 роки тому +19

      Yeah, the guy that literally promised the ability to sack ROMAN cities to his legions.

    • @tomasrocha6139
      @tomasrocha6139 11 днів тому

      Plutarch, in his "Life of Brutus" from Parallel Lives, mentions that Brutus' enemies respected him, recounting that Antony once said that "Brutus was the only man to have slain Caesar because he was driven by the splendour and nobility of the deed

  • @CptUSMC
    @CptUSMC 3 роки тому

    This is my favorite Channel on UA-cam. Thank you for all of your work oh, it is greatly appreciated!

  • @dominix5548
    @dominix5548 3 роки тому

    This channel is fantastic and the effort you put into each video is astonishing.
    You've taken a hard road compared to many other content creators, but I know I've seriously benefited and learned from your videos. I get really excited when you drop a new one, and I appreciate that you don't rush and compromise the quality; even though you are financially incentivized to do so.
    Take my money and *please* keep doing this!

  • @canpiv09
    @canpiv09 3 роки тому +96

    You know, the way you talk about Labienus, I'm getting the impression that "Caesar's right hand man" might have just been his first name.

  • @BongoDrumme
    @BongoDrumme 3 роки тому +400

    ALL RIGHT BOYS CLEAR YOUR SCHEDULES HISTORIA CIVILIS JUST CAME OUT WITH ANOTHER BANGER !!!

    • @dimesonhiseyes9134
      @dimesonhiseyes9134 3 роки тому +3

      I'm not sure what this means but that doesn't mean I don't want to be involved

    • @Cicero82
      @Cicero82 3 роки тому

      Good thing I don’t have to drive right now. Productivity have been shot to zero.

  • @cariocaemfuria3946
    @cariocaemfuria3946 3 роки тому +3

    Love your videos. Really wandering why they are becoming rare lately. Hope you don't give up on us. Salutations from Brazil!

  • @eugenefros9655
    @eugenefros9655 3 роки тому +8

    Hey! Dude, your videos are incredible. I had to finally give in to my conscience and pledge a little on Patreon for all the incredible content you've posted over the last few years. Can't wait for the next one, as always.

  • @jonathanskinner7647
    @jonathanskinner7647 3 роки тому +174

    Civis: the battle was a draw
    Caesar in heaven: unacceptable! UNACCEPTABLE!

    • @ourowndevices5907
      @ourowndevices5907 3 роки тому +20

      Caesar ain't in heaven if there is one

    • @ToughCheese
      @ToughCheese 3 роки тому

      @@ourowndevices5907 Why not?

    • @jyanbei
      @jyanbei 3 роки тому

      Majestic BreadDX not a religious man myself but im game, so lets start with the entirety of western Europe..

    • @Wallyworld30
      @Wallyworld30 3 роки тому +10

      @@ToughCheese I'm fairly sure that no matter what god that you prey to if you commit genocide you are automatically banished from heaven. Caesar is in the same afterlife club as Hitler and King Leopold II.

    • @vaderbuckeye36
      @vaderbuckeye36 3 роки тому +16

      he's in Elysium, with all of the other great Romans up through Majorian.

  • @TheMr77469
    @TheMr77469 3 роки тому +127

    I was expecting the Octavian square to have little green squares coming out of him as her moved side to side on the ship.

    • @Spazmonkey625
      @Spazmonkey625 3 роки тому +6

      Wouldn't that mean he's vomiting people though?

    • @derekp2236
      @derekp2236 3 роки тому +16

      Vomiting Gauls probably they are normally green.

    • @yochaiwyss3843
      @yochaiwyss3843 3 роки тому +10

      @@derekp2236 or did he eat Cicero

    • @Zoey--
      @Zoey-- 3 роки тому +1

      @@derekp2236 I laughed far too hard at this mental image.

    • @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046
      @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 3 роки тому

      @@yochaiwyss3843 Haw Haw Haw

  • @herrheroin606
    @herrheroin606 2 роки тому

    This is by far my favorite youtube channel. The narrating, animations and music is just so good. Never change

  • @CasperKersten
    @CasperKersten 3 роки тому

    I'm alway happy to see a new video from you pop up in my youtube feed. Thank you for the well-researched and well-presented content.

  • @whynot-tomorrow_1945
    @whynot-tomorrow_1945 3 роки тому +85

    lol, all of Caesar's battles have been like:
    * brilliant tactics, strategy, and maneuver coupled with bold construction projects *
    meanwhile, we got the kids fighting here like:
    * the incompetence happened to work in his favor *

    • @veljkoangelovski5349
      @veljkoangelovski5349 2 роки тому +1

      * fortifications and camps all over the place for some reason *

    • @tianshi2006
      @tianshi2006 Рік тому

      Not all
      Caesar, known for his sonic like speed, went across the water too early, losing many many triemes and troops needlessly.
      One of his very few tactical mistakes few know.
      He bossed mutinous legions though ie his favoured 10th

  • @rgm96x49
    @rgm96x49 3 роки тому +64

    In all fairness to Octavian, dude knew he wasn't exactly a top-tier commander. Lucky for him he did have Agrippa.

    • @HaloFTW55
      @HaloFTW55 3 роки тому +13

      Their future successors came in the form of Justinian and Belisarius. Top 10 historical bromances indeed.

    • @thomashazlewood4658
      @thomashazlewood4658 3 роки тому

      So, Agrippa allowed himself to be outflanked, saw his entire army routed? Perhaps Agrippa was falsely lauded for his martial skills? I know of no strategem or tactical innovation attributed to him. Pompey's son was strangling Rome and Agrippa never got the better of him. I think Agrippa benefitted from being a survivor and being on the side that eventually won.

    • @Sealdeam
      @Sealdeam 3 роки тому +23

      @@thomashazlewood4658 Agrippa only became Octavian's main general after the death of Salvidienus Rufus, at the time this battle takes place he still had not obtained that position and he was the one that eventually expelled Sextus Pompeius from Sicily, his whole career is one of competence and success, not sure if that alone is enough to put him among the great generals of history but I think he is comfortably the best roman general of his generation alongside maybe Ventidius Bassus.

    • @thomashazlewood4658
      @thomashazlewood4658 3 роки тому

      @@Sealdeam Thanks for your views, Sealdeam. However, it is my understanding that Sextus' fleets strangled Rome's grain supplies, to the frustration of Augustus. Augustus built two large fleets to fight him and both were lost, while the grain embargo continued. Finally, Sextus was lured into a political agreement which resolved the embargo. He was not defeated militarily, he was seduced into defeat by clever politics.

    • @Sealdeam
      @Sealdeam 3 роки тому +9

      @@thomashazlewood4658 it is true that Octavian failed to defeat Sextus and that eventually a treaty was signed between him and the Triumvirs but that peace was broken and the eventual fall of Sextus was due a successful military campaign led by Agrippa, it is more than likely that Octavian's own failures against Sextus were the main factor that lead to his decision to fully delegate military affairs to more capable members of his faction namely Agrippa and Statilius Taurus; but the cause of the start of hostilities between them was due the defection of one of Sextus' generals so intrigue also played a part in that conflict.

  • @Stickyrolls123
    @Stickyrolls123 3 роки тому +1

    I'm subscribed to dozens of histhistory channels and yours is one of the best. I wish you made videos more frequently.

  • @jamesodom4980
    @jamesodom4980 3 роки тому +1

    Your channel is so precious, I actually watch the ads on your video in appreciation. And I hate ads.

  • @erolaras7268
    @erolaras7268 3 роки тому +65

    Does everybody here still miss Labienus or am I just weird? I was somewhat happy to hear his name in this video.
    Good night my sweet prince...

    • @endlesshalcyon
      @endlesshalcyon 3 роки тому +12

      Poor Labienus... I miss him too.

    • @carolinef1508
      @carolinef1508 3 роки тому +10

      I really miss Labienus-square😪😍

    • @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046
      @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 3 роки тому +11

      All the people I mess
      1. Crassus (Died 53 BC, marking the end of the Triumvirate) - While many see him as a politician with no military talent - But like, he won so many before Carrhae
      2. Labienus (Died 45 BC, marking the end of the Civil war)
      3. Caesar (Died 44 BC, marking the end of the Republic)
      4. Cicero (Died 43 BC, marking the end of all remaining chances of restoring the republic)
      When was Rome founded? 753 BC
      When was Rome lost? 753 AD
      When was the Roman empire destroyed? 474 AD
      When was the Roman empire Destroyed? 1456 AD
      When was the Roman empire destroyed? When brutes killed the man in charge
      When was the Roman kingdom destroyed? When Brutus killed the man in charge
      When was the Roman republic destroyed? When Brutus killed the man in charge
      When did Brutus kill the man in charge? in 509 BC
      When did Brutus kill the man in charge? In 44 BC
      When did brutes kill the man in charge? In 1453 AD
      Who was the first Roman ruler? Romulus
      Who was the first Roman emperor? Augustus
      Who was the last Emperor/Ruler? Romulus Augustulus
      Who was the last Roman Emperor/ruler? Constantine Augustus

    • @TheEnergizer94
      @TheEnergizer94 3 роки тому +1

      I feel like more than one girl watches this channel and I think it's pretty cool

    • @sjsbviufvibwvuspi
      @sjsbviufvibwvuspi 3 роки тому

      @@palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 no the guy in charge of the roman kingdom was banished not killed

  • @thorinstrandberg9116
    @thorinstrandberg9116 3 роки тому

    Dude. Thanks for the consistently awesome content. I found this channel in a reddit suggestion thread a year ago and haven't looked back-- consistently better than anything on history channel. Digestible, interesting, entertaining, these videos are probably my favorite video content to watch on the internet. Thanks!

  • @tamrielterror3800
    @tamrielterror3800 3 роки тому +1

    I just wanted to say that this is the best history channel on UA-cam. After finding this video I’ve watched every single video at least twice. Also I wrote an essay for my Western Civilization class on the assassination of Julius Caesar. Thank you for the amazing content ❤️

  • @MALITH666
    @MALITH666 3 роки тому +170

    Ceasar must have rolled in his grave when he saw that battle.
    "WHERE THE HELL IS BUILDING A FORTIFICATION ! I DID IT EVERYTIME YOU PLEBS"

    • @Lucas-po6mn
      @Lucas-po6mn 3 роки тому +53

      you can see that marc antony worked under ceasar, as he immediately started building a fence in the march

    • @napoleoncomplex2712
      @napoleoncomplex2712 3 роки тому +19

      @@Lucas-po6mn He also moved right up to breathing distance of Cassius, another of Caesar's tricks.

    • @Supernoxus
      @Supernoxus 3 роки тому +25

      @@napoleoncomplex2712All of his moves ended up being half baked though. The fence idea didn't go far enough and the redeploying accidentally ended up with a huge battle.
      He tried.

    • @napoleoncomplex2712
      @napoleoncomplex2712 3 роки тому +22

      @@Supernoxus Fair points. Bear in mind that he was dealing with rookie legions on a much larger scale than usual. He didn't have Caesar's veterans who could turn on a dime.

    • @VasilyKiryanov
      @VasilyKiryanov 3 роки тому +2

      @@napoleoncomplex2712 Caesar's veterans did not become veterans instantly.

  • @selfawaretrashcan4594
    @selfawaretrashcan4594 3 роки тому +172

    There goes my morning productivity

  • @americanphilosophy2701
    @americanphilosophy2701 3 роки тому

    Always the best history videos! You will leave a great legacy.

  • @giod6266
    @giod6266 3 роки тому +2

    More, more, more! We want to see more of your videos!
    Thank you so much! Its a lot of fun and interesting!

  • @Wilahelm2
    @Wilahelm2 3 роки тому +534

    I actually feel a little bad for Octavian in this situation. The guy was not a brilliant general like Caesar was, his brilliance was in politics and administration. The thing is Octavian knew he was no good at this but because of Roman society had to pretend to be a soldier. Letting the actual soldiers do their thing and staying out of their way was the smart thing to do, especially when considering how Brutus ended up when he tried to play soldier.

    • @satriaputrapratama4703
      @satriaputrapratama4703 3 роки тому +172

      "The graves are full with middling swordsmen, better not be swordman at all than to be a middling swordman"
      -Octavian

    • @Moonstar79
      @Moonstar79 3 роки тому +7

      And then he got called loser by his team, but it’s fine, everyone liked Augustus I guess

    • @protonjones54
      @protonjones54 3 роки тому +4

      how is brutus "trying to play" soldier? he was literally forced into being a soldier in this situation

    • @Wilahelm2
      @Wilahelm2 3 роки тому +72

      @@protonjones54 Brutus loses my sympathy because he brought this on himself. He assassinates Caesar after he was pardoned by him and then just expects to be rewarded and cheered for his actions. He totally botches the post-assassination situation by always making the wrong choice. He was clearly no leader and always seemed to go for the choice that required the least amount of effort from himself. He was a spoiled rich kid who cruised through life and the only reason he was brought in on the conspiracy was because of his family name. Brutus seemed to think he was greater then he actually was while Octavian always seemed to have a clear view of what his own strengths and weaknesses were.

    • @piotrkarp9562
      @piotrkarp9562 3 роки тому

      @@Wilahelm2 Coz Brutus is Kenobi of that story. All down for the Republic. Not all of them can be Vader.