How to block a sneaky dock, a breakdown

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  • Опубліковано 15 лип 2023
  • Gabi tries to sneak a Dock, but LaaaaaN gets creative with his Fishing Ships to block it.
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  • @T-West
    @T-West  11 місяців тому +27

    Edit: The Byzantine bonus actually is implemented by multiplying by 0.8, rather than 0.75. It should be 0.25 · 0.8 = 0.2.
    I have a backlog of breakdowns and analysis videos to upload, going to be active with editing them and pushing them out over the next couple of weeks. If you have a tournament game or moment you want explained, let me know and I'll see if I can add it to my list.

    • @ubelmensch
      @ubelmensch 11 місяців тому +2

      Shorts can get you lots of views too

    • @T-West
      @T-West  11 місяців тому +2

      They're also shorts. :)

    • @ArawnOfAnnwn
      @ArawnOfAnnwn 11 місяців тому +1

      @@ubelmensch Shorts is cancer. Also Shorts doesn't pay out as well as regular videos.

    • @Tyrentenir
      @Tyrentenir 11 місяців тому +1

      @@ArawnOfAnnwn I really don't like them, but I have to admit that they get pushed so hard on youtube now that it's probably a good way to grow your audience. Even if they aren't directly profitable.

    • @ArawnOfAnnwn
      @ArawnOfAnnwn 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Tyrentenir True. 😔

  • @Darilon12
    @Darilon12 11 місяців тому +35

    "...use her faster firing Fire Galleys to disrupt Laaaaan's more efficiently fishing Fishing Ships."
    Say that 5 times in a row...

    • @williamangga6164
      @williamangga6164 11 місяців тому

      top 10 aoe analyzer eminem afraid to diss. 11

  • @magentaballthepolandball5130
    @magentaballthepolandball5130 11 місяців тому +55

    of course, the most pacifist approach of not letting your opponent make attacking units reigns superior

    • @T-West
      @T-West  11 місяців тому +25

      The Fishing Ship is a very pacifist unit (assuming the Fish don't count as kills)!

    • @magentaballthepolandball5130
      @magentaballthepolandball5130 11 місяців тому +13

      @@T-West don't worry, the fishing ships convert the fish to the player's side, so they are no longer enemy units.

    • @vladimirmarkovnikov8729
      @vladimirmarkovnikov8729 11 місяців тому +11

      ​@@magentaballthepolandball5130 why didn't I think of this earlier?! Maybe that's the reason why fishing ships can wololo fish traps and thus lure fishes to player's side!

  • @battleforevermore
    @battleforevermore 11 місяців тому +3

    The alliteration through out the video was great.

  • @Angrade
    @Angrade 11 місяців тому +10

    Good solution though the caveat is that 1 villager is denying 4 fishing chips and ships from collecting.

    • @starcraft2own
      @starcraft2own 11 місяців тому +5

      Well, if it goes through then one villager kills entire fish eco. This is the equivalent of garrisoning your villagers when you're attacked so it's only a delay until you can deal with it.

    • @astrid2432
      @astrid2432 Місяць тому

      and don't forget: the 1 villager walked over the whole map to reach the spot to do it's job, but failed and needed to walk back, if not killed before
      where as these 4 ships barely have any travel time or like have some fish directly next to them

  • @JoeKnaggs
    @JoeKnaggs 11 місяців тому +1

    Love these mini breakdowns

  • @bananan7
    @bananan7 11 місяців тому +8

    Asking T-West to make a video on common bag of loosing a vill diagonally through a wall #4

    • @a-a-ron3542
      @a-a-ron3542 11 місяців тому +1

      So aggravating…

    • @bananan7
      @bananan7 11 місяців тому

      @@a-a-ron3542 sorry bro

    • @a-a-ron3542
      @a-a-ron3542 11 місяців тому

      @@bananan7 lol not your comment, having an attack through a diagonal corner of the wall.

  • @MrKrock164
    @MrKrock164 11 місяців тому +6

    Palisades around the pond might come cheaper, though.

    • @UnfamiliarPlace
      @UnfamiliarPlace 11 місяців тому +3

      but be destroyable by a vil and not have a secondary use later. Even cheaper would be a galley to shoot the vill

    • @T-West
      @T-West  11 місяців тому +8

      The Galley often can't be trained in time to stop the Dock, then if it's late isn't useful in the small pond against the Fire Galleys. It's always an "it depends" situation!

  • @Progeusz
    @Progeusz 11 місяців тому +1

    wonderful breakdown

  • @wasfas1977
    @wasfas1977 11 місяців тому +4

    Nice dock block.

  • @hbarudi
    @hbarudi 11 місяців тому +2

    When playing francesco de almeida #4, I beat the green navy then put galleons near the shore to kill any of their villager trying to build a dock.

    • @T-West
      @T-West  11 місяців тому +2

      You see that in multiplayer too, after winning water players spread their leftover Galleys along the coast to prevent more Docks.

  • @GarfieldRex
    @GarfieldRex 11 місяців тому +2

    Or can also build 1 tile walls (don't know the name in English), spaced out 👌 I do that whenever I can on Arena to block incoming castles xd but is difficult and you slow down eco a bit

    • @kyallokytty
      @kyallokytty 11 місяців тому

      the issue with that is vill idle time and that they can destroy it
      but it's doable

  • @RennieAsh
    @RennieAsh 11 місяців тому

    Get the F in there fishing ship let's go you're my F ing friend!

  • @oomdoa5454
    @oomdoa5454 11 місяців тому +1

    use this trick to idle 4 eco using one villager.

  • @CsDeathshadow
    @CsDeathshadow 11 місяців тому +7

    are you planning on more pacifist campaigns?

    • @T-West
      @T-West  11 місяців тому +8

      Yes, probably in about a month.

    • @CsDeathshadow
      @CsDeathshadow 11 місяців тому +1

      @@T-West i love you

  • @drschwandi3687
    @drschwandi3687 11 місяців тому +1

    Would building palisades on the shoreline not be more effective? Instead of using 4 population space, you would need 1-2 vills to build walls freeing up pop space.

    • @T-West
      @T-West  11 місяців тому +5

      That might be possible too. But the Fishing Ships aren't idle forever, just long enough to get army out to fight the Villager. Then they go right back to fishing.

  • @LuxiBelle
    @LuxiBelle 11 місяців тому

    That is like palisading a douche but it actually works

    • @T-West
      @T-West  11 місяців тому

      Ohhhh I'll need to get a collection of douche palisade fails for a video some day.

  • @GoldePants
    @GoldePants 11 місяців тому +1

    Thats wild 11. I would be so annoyed in Gabi's position hahaha. Like wtf get out of the way!!!

  • @Achilles75
    @Achilles75 11 місяців тому +2

    @T west,i dont mean to be rude or anything,i know u know a lot about the mechanics of aoe and math in general but i think u made a small mistake here in the initial fire galley reload rate calculation.
    I think it should be 0.25*0.8=0.2(i know its a very small difference but just pointing it out)
    But maybe im wrong and it is infact 0.25*0.75=0.1875

    • @T-West
      @T-West  11 місяців тому +2

      I'll double check.
      Edit: yeah, it should be 0.8.

  • @sirlight4954
    @sirlight4954 11 місяців тому +3

    Won't wasted 4 pop spaces and build time be a slight disadvantage though?

    • @T-West
      @T-West  11 місяців тому +7

      Not compared to needing to create his own Fire Galleys or losing all of his Fishing Ships.

    • @fuyoutubeck
      @fuyoutubeck 11 місяців тому +5

      If he doesn't he'll have to waste like 7 vills on wood and 4 vills on gold to sustain fire ship production

  • @ownphantomandtoy
    @ownphantomandtoy 11 місяців тому +2

    Do you stream your pacifist campaign attempts?

    • @T-West
      @T-West  11 місяців тому +5

      I don't stream them, but I did make a video where I recorded the process for routing and playing a scenario: ua-cam.com/video/f4tLcXUzhQs/v-deo.html

  • @KlerikerNero
    @KlerikerNero 11 місяців тому +1

    Iceland cod war style.

  • @djbidd007
    @djbidd007 10 місяців тому

    Effishingly fishing fficient ships 😅