New Updates to the RIFLESPEED Gas Control System
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- Today Luke C (@BallisticAviation ) is back at GunCon 2024 talking with the inventor of the RIFLESPEED Gas Control System - Mr. Kyle Lynch. Today Kyle tells the story of the impetus for the creation of the Riflespeed Gas system, and reveals a new gas block journal diameter for larger rifle systems and their barrels, and also teases at some new products coming from Riflespeed just around the corner.
GunCon 2024 was hosted by @TheGunCollective at the @brownells Headquarters in beautiful Grinnell, Iowa.
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Kyle was a trainer at the first pistol class I ever attended, back in 2008. Great teacher, I hope he's still doing that too.
Thank you I’ll be waiting
Sincerely - 16” barrel 15” hand guard person
I'm glad they are adding more length options (at least that's what it seems like) because neither of the rifles I'm building out have viable SKUs according to their configurator.
I want a version with a fully-closed position.
Hands down, the best adjustable gas system in the game.
Why? What’s your experience and data with it?
It really is one of the best. I have Wilson combat, SLR, JP, superlative, and two rifle speeds and the rifle speed blocks really are the shit.
@@rondobrondoall the common failure points of AGB are removed in the case of the riflespeed AGB. It also removes the gas tube early failure point of burn downs.
@@rondobrondo I've tried a few others, I'm not going to badmouth any brand specifically, but the set screw types tend to size up and the bleed off ones, while they do function better than some others, are hard to change on the fly and they can size up too. My experience with riflespeed has been outstanding. The adjustments are straightforward and simple. They make them to fit damn near any port length/rail length combination. With the optional plungers they sell you can set up your range of gas adjustment wherever you want it. Its not cheap but, in my opinion, and based on my experience, they are a high quality, well functioning part that is a solid investment that will improve your shooting experience. Especially if your shooting with and without a silencer.
@@JNOSNOW what about seekins?
That's the oldest guy I've ever seen named Kyle
yea us kyles are usally born in the early 2000s or late 90s so he is likely a older model he is ancient to our people
Still abides by the ancient tradition of drinking Monsters and punching walls
The OG menace😂
Nobody goes to Grandpa Kyle's house for the holidays
Kyle Lamb?
Got my 875 couple days ago. Putting it on a 26in 243win build.
They should either make their own handguards or collaborate with someone like Midwest Industries to make oversized diameter handguards that go over suppressors. Then have a cutout that lets you access the adjustment controls. I would like to use their gas blocks but I always use the Midwest Industries handguards that go over suppressors.
Stubborn mule is making rails with cutouts for agency arms rifles that are using rifle speed system
sounds like a dremel could fix all your problems
They offer a solution for this. Midwest SP handguards fit over suppressors and are sold on their site with a couple of cutout options.
www.riflespeed.com/Handguard-Window-Cuts_p_71.html
I should get a Riflespeed and then put my handguard in the milling machine to add access holes.
@@ryennino5470 I have considered that.
I’ve been very happy with my RifleSpeed system.
Great to see more rifle speed stuff!
Love my 2. Had them since they came out. May get one for my ddm5 v3 also!
Maybe one day I'll have the need for this! But until then on sale aero blocks are doing really good!
very cool ideas that they have... I don't mind a big pricetag as long as I will never have to replace it!
Brilliant ..
Very cool
Anyone know if these work with the DD M4A1 RIS handguard?
Love this channel….
Nice
As someone who is into a lot of different hobbies and sports, it has always been shocking to me how slow and almost pathetic the aftermarket and accessory market for guns is compared to other high technology hobbies like motorcycling, computing, audio equipment/music production, aircraft piloting, etc
Like it’s insane how expensive and how little offerings there are for things in the firearms industry, considering how enormous of a market it is. So it’s really is good to finally be seeing in the last few years, all these different manufactures and groups and people like this who are taking what should be verystraightforward and basic things that should be on rifles these days and finally making them readily available to the public for a somewhat reasonable price.
I mean, what is your argument? Accessories follow market share. Unequivocally. Up until about 2004-2007 the firearms industry was pretty slow and steady. Suddenly the AR is back after the assault weapons ban, and the internet and UA-cam arrives. Sales begin increasing. From 2004 to the early/mid 2010’s there was a 300% increase in sales, and that has only increased, with a peak in 2020. So it’s really only been in the last 10-15 years that we have seen a more intense interest in firearms and their gucci accessories.
You also have regulatory changes or process changes. ATF e-forms a while back made it a lot easier to buy suppressors, now they’re even faster. That leads to increased interest in suppressor technology and gas regulation, like this product.
Someone will ALWAYS try and make it if there is money to be had. So I don’t think there is anything pathetic, I think we’re just seeing the accessories come as the demand arrives.
Hey man, here's a diamond HDMI cable for $10,000.
All of those other things are 100x the market compared to niche firearms accessories.
Is it possible to manufacture them so that they accept milspec gas tubes instead of straight tubes?
I assume he was referring to them dropping handguards in August?
Considering something like a superlative arms gas block is like 70-100 bucks (when I got all mine) this is not overpriced at all
This is huge
I have a 16 and 12.5 middy that both have riflespeed blocks on them. My 300 BLK has a bootleg BCG just because of the handguard/barrel/gas length combo not allowing the riflespeed.
I was unable to get the bootleg to run on 300.
@@dontworrybout2664 mine is an 11.3 pistol-gas from Wilson Combat. Its gas port is .110 if memory serves me correct, its over .100 for sure. The trick is a barrel/recoil system (I use an A5H0/std rifle spring) that cycles subs just fine, and to use the Suppressed setting on the BCG to just tone down supersonics.
Some barrels are gassed light for supers, some gassed heavy for subs, there unfortunately no real standard for 300BLK.
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz riflespeed should start making rails cut for the gas adjustments at different lengths..
@@kirkwest6654 they do, they have them on their website.
@@kirkwest6654 they do.
Does this mean we can RifleSpeed 300blk pistol gas now ?
Yes, they even mention it @5:30
@@L8T4AD8MAN Derp. I was mixing up SA piston systems and Riflespeed in my head.
Last time I looked, they didn't make one long enough for my rifle though.
Hope they come out with a lightweight one, titanium construction.
No idea how much front weight it adds but I can't say I'm a fan of front heavy.
They have a weight comparison on their website, but it isn't up to date with their newest release. The heaviest one listed is 5 ounces, and the lightest is 3.7. So, on the lightest end, about an ounce more than a comparable steel adjustable gb. On the heavy end, about the same as the FSB you'd find on an M16
@@chrisclark6161 thanks 👍🏻
I'm still needing them to release a adjustable the will close the gas system off, so I can get the most out of a suppressor host.
That should be fairly easy for them since all it would take an extra long plunger that completely obstructs the port at the lowest setting. Try giving them a call, they just might do it
@shootinbruin3614 I did a while back. They said with their system I could probably cut enough off for the action not to work, but it would not completely shutoff. Brownell BRN180sh had a 3 stage with one position being off. I would love to get a mesh of both and build a side charger that could be ran as a straight pull bolt and a semi.
@@willardscott5290 Gotcha. I suppose even a full length plunger would let some gas through. Getting complete shut off would likely require a full redesign. I suppose if you really wanted to, you could combine the Riflespeed with a Black River Tactical gas tube to further restrict flow. Still wouldn't be completely off, but if you're after eliminating port pop, it would probably be just as quiet as something that were
@@willardscott5290 have you checked any of the piston offerings on the market like maybe PWS piston kit?
@@Slay_No_More I haven't, but will
As long as the adjustment system doesn’t add a bunch of weight to the gun, then I’m a fan of this and there’s a 50/50, I would be one of these
They should make one integrated into a front sight
Awesome product, but not worth 2-3x the price of other adjustable gas blocks just to avoid an allen wrench. Would buy in a heartbeat at around $100-120
Riflespeed should make handguards (IR ready) with cut out for their gas block and custom collar that allow one to change setting with tip of the bullet or something like that.
Would be cool to get a LMT version
I've got an 0.875 journal and I'm building one with a 12.5" barrel and 11" handguard on a pistol length gas system. They don't have anything ready for me at the moment. Hopefully this will change that. It appears that on their calculator, none of the assemblies are long enough. The 5.8" assembly is their largest and it only gets me out to 10" which is just shy of the front of the handguard. I have been considering a superlative arms GB for that reason but we will see...
I was hoping the new version would be the sub-$100 one.
PSA version inbound? :D
I hear you, but quality, reliable, made in the USA is seldom inexpensive.
Am i supposed to believe that this "Luke" guy is *not* eric from barrel and hatchet?
idk, man. that's a new one for me. i'm used to being called "temu brandon hererra" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Have you ever seen the two of them in one room?
Am I understanding this system is for people with one rifle who operate in 100+ and subzero temp environments? I really like it but I’m not sure I need it..
It's also useful for people who use ammo of widely different power levels, such as with .300 Blackout. You can tune so that at the maximum setting you can cycle subsonic ammo, then turn to a lower gas setting so that you can use supersonic ammo without battering your gun due to severe over-gassing. In less extreme cases it can help tune the gas system both for lower powered practice loads and full powered defensive or hunting rounds.
People who use suppressors part time also can benefit, since they can compensate for increased backpressure by setting the gas system to a lower setting, then turn it back up when shooting unsuppressed.
And for people who do a LOT of shooting between cleanings or in very dirty conditions, it allows for turning the gas system to help compensate for fouling by adding more gas if reliability starts to suffer.
You could always just deal with a bit or potentially a lot of over-gassing instead of using an adjustable gas block, but then in addition to more gas in the face you'll get increased felt recoil and parts wear since the bolt group is slamming back and forth more aggressively in the gun. If you haven't noticed a problem up to this point, then you probably don't need the adjustable gas system. But if any of any of the above situations apply to you and you want your gun to work without having to have it constantly over-gassed, an adjustable gas block could make a big difference.
@@klasodeth thank you for that explanation!
Saw this at Guncon Looks like a great product want to give it a try Got to meet Martin from rifle speed great guy looking forward to giving this product a try thank you for the innovation
Grammar and punctuation. Stop speaking to your phone.
Agreed - only the terminally lazy spew a stream-of-consciousness bag of gibberish into their handset, then hit “send.”
Does anyone adjust their gas system after they set it up?
Not sure why you are asking this question. The use case was mentioned in the video. I adjust mine when I go from unsuppressed to suppressed. The gentleman in the video adjusts his based on climate. Weather makes the DI system cycle differently, hence the need for adjustment.
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I would think that a spring in the gas block would loose it's temper from the heat?
We bought koraloy tool holders that have a spring to lift the insert hold down. I thought they would fail straight off as the machine has no coolant and the insert gets glowing hot. Nope, has lasted several years, and has retained it's power. Must be a special alloy, as I hope this spring is?
Wish i knew about these before i built 10 ARs 😂
I'm like you but if I slapped them on every AR I'd blow about an extra $1100 on gas systems!! 10x(200-90)=1100 With 90 being the cost of my superlative arms GBs.
Would this help smooth out a .50 Beowulf?
If you aren't already using an adjustable GB, it would help reduce the bolt velocity after you tune it perhaps. I'd recommend you get a heavy JPSCS (silent capture spring) to replace your buffer. I've heard people say getting a nicer trigger like a Geissele will help reduce felt recoil but that sounds like snake oil to me.
@@JenkinsStevenD it has a nice trigger but it's a non adjustable gas block. This gas block seems like a possibility.
If these were more affordable, I would get one
$200 is affordable..
@@triviszla1536 a standard gas block is 25 bucks and a superlative arms adjustable is around 90 bucks. This thing comes in at 200+ dollars. What are you comparing it to?
Clamp-on version please!
Why are you preferring this? A dimpling jig is cheap and secure. I am not making fun of you, just trying to understand your thinking.
@@JenkinsStevenD I tend to like lighter profile barrels, and have had noticeable accuracy degradation when using set screw gas blocks on LW profile barrels due to the pressure points they cause in the gas journal area. Criterion doesnt typically recomend set screw blocks for this reason.
I also trust clamp ons to be more secure. VLTOR had done a test that proved it was more secure than a set screw method too! Clamp on also provides a tighter gas seal.
These things are typically not a huge deal to most shooters but Im OCD! Haha
Yeah, but if i hit the riflespeed with a Nokia phone will it break?
.936?
The price was a flat-out lie. The system REQUIRES a proprietary gas tube that does NOT come in the kit. That is an additional cost. $15 additional last I checked. Not a lot, but at least be honest in your statement if you're going to state the price.
Riflesneed.
Now if they'd cut the price in half or more that'd be perfect
They're a business, not a charity 😂
@@blantant I didn't ask for it to be free fuck nuts lol
If I were to hand you the .stp files and asked you to go out and get bids to make this on your own (not even counting the R&D), you'd spend probably spend over a thousand per unit and it would take probably a month or more to get it back.
@@JenkinsStevenD I get them being expensive at first and that it cost a lot to R&D them but it's not that new and doesn't change the fact they're expensive just would like something to not be expensive these days but that's bidenomics at play.
@@mortem-tyrannis I agree with you on the Bidenomics comment but these were around pre-Biden and at about the same price. You'd have a better Bidenomics argument by sticking to grocery stores, interest rates, gas prices etc. It is totally insane what that geriatrics handlers have done to our nation.
Riflespeed is a great way to adjust the gas for your rifle... but for my colon, i only trust Gas X.
Riflespeed Anti-Diarrheal, that would be a money maker
I dont want to hear anything about them until they release the .875
Edit: literally what this video is about. Probably shouldve watched it first
LITERALLY your entire generation: open your mouth first, before you’ve seen or heard anything. “FIRST!!!”
Dork generation.
Big oof
My brother...............
😂
I respect a man that accepts his mistakes
They never reply if their gas block can be used with the existing holes in the barrel for the standard A2 iron sights....
Need a piston Version
no you don't
I’m positive majority of people outside of Americans prefer piston operated fire arms. A piston version would be successful.
wait, did he just say it was $200? Just get an SA bleeder
The riflespeed is waaaaay nicer, I have both.
I won't buy another superlative. I'm only buying the rifle speed blocks now, they're so much better.
@@TheSugarWeasel93 it better be at that price point. it's not a bleeder is it? pobably will carbon up. At least that's what I've read about bleeders vs blockers
@laxwyo1 bleeders are a gimmick imo. It doesn't make the gun run any cleaner than a restriction type block. And due to its construction it won't carbon up since the threads aren't exposed to carbon. I have one that has nearly 3k through it and it's still adjustable by hand, never cleaned.
Unfortunately they don't have a bleed setting, only a restriction one. Sort of defeats the point, when suppressed shooting is the point of these things.
That doesnt defeat the purpose. It restricts gas pressure at the block so an overgassed gun can become properly gassed.
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz that's not how a gas system works. Gas exits at the gas port, that energy is used to cycle the action. However, a suppressor creates back-pressure after the gas port.
A vented block like the Superlative vents the gasses at the gas block, they are vented before they ever reach the suppressor. The trade-off is less signature reduction, but much less gassing of the shooter.
Flow through suppressors accomplish the same thing, but the gasses are vented via the suppressor rather than the gas block.
@@6tuf85dyfu gas is tapped off at the gas port, pressure still remains so long as the bullet hasnt uncorked from the barrel.
The result of both is the same, a bolt velocity and unlock time more closely matching an unsuppressed weapon for less recoil, gas, and port noise. All a venting block does is lessen the port noise a bit more. Theres only so much gas you can vent before the gun doesn't work, they dont make that much of a difference.
I have both and would choose the rifle speed over another superlative block. I have two superlative blocks and I'm not that impressed especially suppressed. Shooting the superlative suppressed at night is atrocious and just makes the gas clouds worse too.
Ain’t no way that little gas block is worth $200 😂
Your shooting requirements don’t require it
@@cocobearnoski Who are you to tell me that?
It’s the only adjustable block for DI guns that’s worth anything.
Not everything is for you
@@ToastbackWhale Not true but alright
I won't buy until they make a 0-100% adjustment. I don't want to be Messing with 10 different plungers..
No bayonet lug , no care ....:)
Did a ghost from WW1 post this?
"""" Please """" STOP Having luke Interviewing People !!!!!
For The Love of God ( Any / All ) !!!
overrated gas block lol, it's like bootleg bcg all over again
2 products that work very well.
How is it over rated?? It is duty grade and can be customized and tuned without a tool..
If it isn't for you, it isn't for you😂
Why is it overrated? The level you can fine tune your gas setting is solid
does the riflespeed system have a "zero gas" setting? For maximum quiet with no action noise and a suppressor?
Yup. From their FAQ:
"Riflespeed Gas Controls are fully modular and can be set up to provide full restriction (non-cycling/off) or complete function with any cartridge or configuration. We offer many Plunger options to accomplish the configuration you wish to use. Each Gas Control comes with two different size Plungers that cover a wide range of performance for most popular cartridges."