They are. Which is why Yonatan Donner *_and only Yonatan Donner_* thought super shotgunning them was anything but a long chore. I'd much rather punch a Baron than SSG it.
another big factor is that barons have pretty much 100% accuracy (not counting overkill) while mancubi miss a ton of their shots, and it gets worse when the barons spread and end up causing friendly fire from mancubi
Don't projectiles check to see if they're hitting the same enemy type as who cast it and not deal damage if so? I thought only hitscan could cause two of the same enemy to infight unless they make a barrel explode
@@DinnerForkTongueTrue, and the other four shots have chances to hit other barons as well. One more huge factor is the melee attack rate for the baron, though, and the massive damage that deals, and if the baron whiffs the melee it automatically shoots a ranged attack. The melee does like twice the damage of a ranged hit iirc.
@@ji604 yeah mancubi don't hurt each other, but they do completely absorb the shot meaning it can't hit a baron. And that booty absorbs a LOT of shots.
If numbers are even and Barons are far enough away, Barons get too tanky for Mancubi to reasonably handle. But becomes another matter up close or with greater numbers with the greater damage output possible with Mancubi.
At very close ranges too, the Baron wins due to having a melee attack. The Mancubus would land more but also get stunned more often by the Baron's relentless melee attacks.
Pretty much evenly matched. Baron has high health, and hits precisely. Mancubui is bulky, has high offensive power, but inaccurate. When facing Barons as doomguy, you sometimes struggle against Baron due to his 1000 HP and tanking all your shots. Against Mancubus/Mancubi, taking them on from distance is pretty dangerous too. 10 vs 12, 5 vs 6 and 1vs1 parts showed me so much about them.
Hmmm. At least for Ultra Violence difficulty (have yet to dip my toes into Nightmare), I'd say Barons are easier to deal with due to how straightforward they are with their attacking, even if they take a fair bit of ammo to take out. Mancubi are a bit more dangerous due to how erratic their fireball pattern is, and gets especially chaotic when dealing with them in groups.
@@ggn3In groups, agreed, but against a single mancubus, a little practice can make dodging easy. The first pair always has one dead on and one off to the right, the second has one dead on and the other to the left, the third pair is always to either side, and will miss you if you hold still. Once you’ve taken some time to get the pattern down it becomes muscle memory.
The one I have requested a few times on other videos! Thanks! :D These two monsters are evenly matched. It's so satisfying to watch a Baron fight something of it's own size and get it's ass whooped!
Since they have no preference as AI, they attack the enemy number 1 of a type. Until they are hit, and then they have a preferred target to retaliate against
@@ji604 looks like he's pretty firmly infighting the other baron. He even circles around him, keeping him as his target. I know there are some uncommon little programming quirks tgat can make demons of the same 'species' infight, albeit not necessarily doing damage.
I doubt we can request modded monster matchups, but should you ever do those, I'd love to see infight battles featuring the Pyro Knight from Valiant. That thing _is an absolute _*_monster_* infighting-wise in my anecdotal experience.
Yes but why? barons and knights are identical in every way with the sole exception that the baron has twice the HP. Every other comment in such a vid would saying exactly that.
All I have to say to the Baron of Hells at 8:40 is fools they all went for 1Mancubus and the Mancubus didn’t which did damage to all the Baron of Hells and gave them time to kill most of them and beat them, had the Barons not done that I think they could have won on Ultra Violence
I hate that Mancubi keep obstructing each other. I thought the potential of them damaging more than one enemy at once was gonna be of use to them, but nah, they keep getting in the way of their teammates' projectiles...
alor of bunching going on here. alot of bad targeting too. picking the cloesest target would have ben mpre efficient. you can see mancubi targeting far way barons
@@DinnerForkTongue Baron beats Mancubus at both melee range and at long range where not more than 1 Manc fireball can hit the baron at once. The Mancubus beats the baron at point blank range where it is able to hit the baron with 2 fireballs at a time.
The mancubi death animation and sound is really amazing
Ohhhh that one last baron standing was absolutely on the verge of death
One of the matches I've genuinely been waiting for.
Damn, barons are freaking units
They are. Which is why Yonatan Donner *_and only Yonatan Donner_* thought super shotgunning them was anything but a long chore. I'd much rather punch a Baron than SSG it.
Barons hit so freaking hard.
have better accuracy and more hp that's why win
Well they were bosses in Episode 1
nope, each of the mancubus's fireballs hit as hard as a baron's. And a mancubus fires 6 per volley. It's just that the barons have more hp.
Mancubi hit harder.
The Mancubi have a much higher dps than Barons. The matches were the big Red's win, is decided purely by their hp and pain chance.
Interesting battle. I think the baron suffering less from pain flinch than mancubus was a big factor
another big factor is that barons have pretty much 100% accuracy (not counting overkill) while mancubi miss a ton of their shots, and it gets worse when the barons spread and end up causing friendly fire from mancubi
Don't projectiles check to see if they're hitting the same enemy type as who cast it and not deal damage if so? I thought only hitscan could cause two of the same enemy to infight unless they make a barrel explode
@@GraveUypo
Mancubi always shoot two shots with total accuracy, though. And their flames hit just as hard as Barons'.
@@DinnerForkTongueTrue, and the other four shots have chances to hit other barons as well. One more huge factor is the melee attack rate for the baron, though, and the massive damage that deals, and if the baron whiffs the melee it automatically shoots a ranged attack. The melee does like twice the damage of a ranged hit iirc.
@@ji604 yeah mancubi don't hurt each other, but they do completely absorb the shot meaning it can't hit a baron. And that booty absorbs a LOT of shots.
If numbers are even and Barons are far enough away, Barons get too tanky for Mancubi to reasonably handle. But becomes another matter up close or with greater numbers with the greater damage output possible with Mancubi.
The only non-boss monster that can handle Barons at a distance, in my experience, are Arachnotrons.
The Baron is simply too powerful. No one goes up against him and survives. NO ONE.
At very close ranges too, the Baron wins due to having a melee attack. The Mancubus would land more but also get stunned more often by the Baron's relentless melee attacks.
Pretty much evenly matched. Baron has high health, and hits precisely. Mancubui is bulky, has high offensive power, but inaccurate. When facing Barons as doomguy, you sometimes struggle against Baron due to his 1000 HP and tanking all your shots. Against Mancubus/Mancubi, taking them on from distance is pretty dangerous too. 10 vs 12, 5 vs 6 and 1vs1 parts showed me so much about them.
Hmmm. At least for Ultra Violence difficulty (have yet to dip my toes into Nightmare), I'd say Barons are easier to deal with due to how straightforward they are with their attacking, even if they take a fair bit of ammo to take out. Mancubi are a bit more dangerous due to how erratic their fireball pattern is, and gets especially chaotic when dealing with them in groups.
@@ggn3In groups, agreed, but against a single mancubus, a little practice can make dodging easy. The first pair always has one dead on and one off to the right, the second has one dead on and the other to the left, the third pair is always to either side, and will miss you if you hold still. Once you’ve taken some time to get the pattern down it becomes muscle memory.
The 20v20 nightmare stats was a proper spectacle😮
Loves these monster battle video”s!
The one I have requested a few times on other videos! Thanks! :D
These two monsters are evenly matched. It's so satisfying to watch a Baron fight something of it's own size and get it's ass whooped!
Much like Spider Mastermind vs Cyberdemon, Mancubus vs Baron battles are determined by how close they are to each other and this video proves it.
Barons throw Milkshake protein & Mancubi throw pie 😂
If only there was a way they all wouldn’t immediately target like the center one first
looks like the Hell Knight called in big brother Baron to get revenge xD
This was a fun one. Still waiting for pain elementals vs arch-vile
Man....those beastly Barons are ruthless bullies
There’s a very interesting phenomenon where ranged always attack the same target at the beginning. Why is that?
Since they have no preference as AI, they attack the enemy number 1 of a type. Until they are hit, and then they have a preferred target to retaliate against
This one was freakin' intense!
Love to see Chaingunners vs Spider Mastermind. Battle of the chainguns!!
2:27 on the right Baron and Mancubus killed each other at the same time
2:56 for some reason all Barons focused on one Mancubus
What happened right before 1:20 to make that Baron so mad at another baron? Whatever he did, he took it personally.
He could just be aiming at a Mancubus the other baron is in front of, I don't think barons take friendly fire from each other
@@ji604 looks like he's pretty firmly infighting the other baron. He even circles around him, keeping him as his target. I know there are some uncommon little programming quirks tgat can make demons of the same 'species' infight, albeit not necessarily doing damage.
@@BiggysMusic nah dude the baron was just in his way
@@ji604 they can friendly fire melay
I doubt we can request modded monster matchups, but should you ever do those, I'd love to see infight battles featuring the Pyro Knight from Valiant. That thing _is an absolute _*_monster_* infighting-wise in my anecdotal experience.
I love to see him cover the higher-tier monsters from the ‘colorful doom’ mod.
That 1v1 of Dylan the Baron vs Larry the Mancubus...
In large scale battles, the mancubi have the advantage of being able to hit multiple targets at the same time.
2:28 they killed each other
Was this basically a case of muscle vs fat?
Is it possible to make a fight barons vs knights?
Yes but why? barons and knights are identical in every way with the sole exception that the baron has twice the HP.
Every other comment in such a vid would saying exactly that.
Already done ua-cam.com/video/xcndC7nJ3C8/v-deo.html
He already made that video.
Strong fat vs Jacked Muscle
i want to see videos like that but on brutal doom
It also depends if the butter beans land both launchers rather than one on impact
OMG Double kill! 6:22
man I was biting my nails on 7:30
Now this is one of the set ups I would say could benefit from massive numbers instead of shrinking them. 200 vs 200
Honestly the 1 vs 1 battle is jinda more fun
I know why the mancubi went extinct. There were no womancubi.
What about the succubi?
@@scottl.1568 Then the joke wouldnt work.
I didn't know Barons are that much stronger than Mancubi.
Just Baron's HP Higher Then Mancubi! (1000 : 600)
Did anybody notice the Baron in-fighting at 1:19?
I always thought the Mancubus could beat the Baron of Hell I’ve seen them do it before
They're even, in most situations.
its like watching cardboard cutouts duke it out
Batista vs Big Show
Or more retro:
Ultimate Warrior vs André the Giant
Of course, the Mancubi could be seen more as Big Daddy V/Viscera/King Mabel
All I have to say to the Baron of Hells at 8:40 is fools they all went for 1Mancubus and the Mancubus didn’t which did damage to all the Baron of Hells and gave them time to kill most of them and beat them, had the Barons not done that I think they could have won on Ultra Violence
Gooo barons!!!
Clase position
Mancubus: ruuuuuuun
HUMPYOURMOM
How about 100 Barons vs 125 mancubis?
That's a lot of scratching
Can anyone smell cooked beef?
I hate that Mancubi keep obstructing each other. I thought the potential of them damaging more than one enemy at once was gonna be of use to them, but nah, they keep getting in the way of their teammates' projectiles...
Why do barons sound like furbies?
I always root for The Goat-Men.
Poor Mancubi :((
slobberknocker
alor of bunching going on here. alot of bad targeting too. picking the cloesest target would have ben mpre efficient. you can see mancubi targeting far way barons
Barons 1v1 easily overpower Manc's.
Not if they can't get in melee range.
@DinnerForkTongue even if they don't get in melee range they dominate them.
@@SoulKiller7Eternal
Not in my experience. It's melee that makes the difference.
The macubus just trying to chicken out when they start to fight on UV!
@@DinnerForkTongue Baron beats Mancubus at both melee range and at long range where not more than 1 Manc fireball can hit the baron at once. The Mancubus beats the baron at point blank range where it is able to hit the baron with 2 fireballs at a time.
Baron plural,. It's Baroni, please
sounds like an italian noodle dish