Martok: "How hollow is the sound of victory, without someone to share it with? Honor gives little comfort to a man alone in his home, and in his heart."
We actually have an example with Kor, He was one of the most famous and honored klingons in the empire but he was too good, by the time he was an old man and getting dementia his name and reputation had little influence outside of hero worship. So Martok was dead right with all of he said.
I feel similar as an avid Gamer...won many virtual battles, earned many achievements, recorded many gaming clips for UA-cam, but, sometimes, they feel...empty, with no 1 to give a damn. For a time, I was married to a fellow Gamer who also shared the same love of gaming, of cartoons & being immature grownups & for a time, it was good. 1 doesn't have to be a Klingon to feel similar as shown here.
Martok counseling the ever stern Worf gently with the heart of a poet to remember his love for Jadzia to reconcile for the wedding; while Sisko’s counseling of the delicately flighty Dax is him brazenly telling her to grow the hell up, act her age for once & accept some accountability in nearly ruining her marriage before even starting it! The contrast in the mentoring pep talks still tickles me to this day
Despite Rom, i hate ferengi culture too. I think it was a warning from screenwriter, or all DS9 team against neoliberalism. Sadly, murica itself doesnt listen
@@samsticka and as usual, muricans still believe in capitalism, despite 2008 and trump. It seems the theory that red scare being actually a curse from native americans is correct.
That pep talk from martok. The poet in his heart, I only wish I'm Even Half as dedicated and fluent when I describe the woman who would not only be able to stand my presence... but enjoy and maybe even, relish my companionship.
I like the way Sisko handles the situation with Dax. Crushingly telling her to stop the bullshit and she can't keep riding on Curzon's legacy because she isn't Curzon anymore; she's Jadzia! Sirella is the Mistress of a Great House and should be accorded the full respect she's due. I have a friend who I am very close to, and sometimes you have to tell them what they NEED to hear, not what they want to hear. A true friend does that. In the end, Jadiza knew Sisko was right.
I listen to General martok loving and thought provoking thoughts about love and companionship and I think about my own wife and I am filled with that same Pride and comfort in the one I fell in love with it.
I think it would of been funny as Martok reached to take the food away, Bashir “stabs” his hand with a fork, glaring at him. Playing into the whole thing that Garak previously said about humans and food.
None of Worf's partners were ever the "traditional" Klingon woman he had in his mind. Not Jadzia Dax, not Deanna Troy, and not K'Ehleyr - Alexander's mother - who was an actual Klingon Ambassador
A traditional Klingon woman probably won't want Worf, despite his noble qualities. He's like Spock in that they're both rejected by their own people despite being representing the best of them.
Omg, the thought of chowing down that steak, baked potato, and linguini turned me on just a little bit more than the thought of having a wedding night with Jadzia... 🤤
Never noticed before, but the guys taking down the wedding decorations are in Bajoran uniforms. Quark really got a couple of soldiers in to put up bunting. I know that Starfleet and the Bajorans take responsibility for maintenance on the station even in private businesses, but I kind of think decorating crosses the line.
I don't think those people are soliders. Bajoran military uniforms are all grey, all brown, or all red. The ones we see are moss green with a grey top. Same colors Rom wore when he was on the DS9 maintenance staff.
I had to look up who wrote this episode - his name is Ronald D. Moore. I want it out there that this whole scene, especially Martok's counseling to Worf, was so beautifully written, and I have to thank Mr. Moore for this wonderful dialogue.
I had to feel for Chief O'Brien and Dr. Bashir. Having all that food in front of them only for it to be taken away. Then to throw salt on the wounds they are told there is no refund. That's just brutal😂
1:11 First? ....Well, in any serious nature, I suppose, yeah. 2:29 He had the crew of the Enterprise before to respect him in his "dishonor" times but.... Not the same.
It's been discussed that Federation citizens probable have most of their needs met, food, housing, clothing, etc. But they are given, or allow extra financing for personal items, or even can earn more funds for such items. Which makes sense given that Bashi and OBrien pay for food from Quark's when they can easily go back to their quarters and get it themselves. Maybe Quark actually might have real food, rather than replicated ones, though there's no mention of a kitchen.
Had a talk with a female friend similar to the one Sisko had with Dax. My friend fell for a guy but would rant about how he’s a dirty, far-right capitalist. I ended up telling her that whatever it is about him she fell in love with is also what makes him that way, so she had only one choice: either stay with him and cope with it or leave and reevaluate what kind of men she falls for, because there was no way in hell she was gonna get him to change - and even if she did, it would change him into someone other than who she fell in love with.
Dax, of all non-klingon people out there, should have known exactly what Sirella expected of her. Sirella commands a Great House, she was a noble lady before marrying Martok, she has massive amounts of reputation and social standing to maintain for the sake of that House. The livelihoods, social standing, respectability of everybody in that House rests on her's and Martok's shoulders. Of course she's going to give Dax a ridiculously hard time, she has to! It's literally her job. But no, Dax had to be rude, disrespectful and intolerably arrogant to the one person she must grovel to. Dax is an idiot.
"I'll get the menu." Yeah because a replicator with hundreds of thousands of meals from hundreds of different species can be fitted onto an A4 piece of paper.
Based on Quark's comment about squeezing the juice, rather than replicating it, (3:00) we might assume that this is all non-replicated food, hence the menus.
I love this. Dax is confronted with a difficult personal relationship situation and what happens? Instead of touting cancel culture, praising her stand to live her life her way, Sisko calls her out. He tells her to get off her high horse. If she wants to be part of a community, a family, she will have to compromise, she will have to acknowledge, at least some of the time, that its not all about her. And amazingly she listens. The Federation really is a fantastic place for that alone. People listen to each other. They let their minds be changed. That more than the technology is the dream that makes Star Trek so appealing.
Worf would like you to transfer an message to the her Majesty the Queen. Tell her all I want is the best for her and I dont oppose her rule in the realm and I respect her as the ruler. As well inform her that I am plagued by all sorts of spirits and that alot of times my thoughts arnt my own. All I have is respect and honer for her Majesty The Queen Elizabeth the second. I know your obligated to send her this.
In good faith I will delete these posts. So it is not missinterpreted . Furthermore, I would like to ask the Highnes the Queen a show of mercy and a peaceful existence in her realm. As your duty as her subjects I would expect relay of my feelings to the ruler of the realm.
@@markblazevic9751 If you want to send the Queen a message, just write a letter and put it into the post. Just write HM Queen Elizabeth II Buckingham Palace London UK And I guarantee you, it will get there.
This wedding is actually so tragic considering what happens to Jadzia. If Worf hadn’t married her, it would have saved him a lot of awkward scenes with Ezri.
Similar could be said of any marriage, or relationship, or friendship even, the price of love is loss. If people went around avoiding things because tragedy might happen later on, we would never have made out of Eden.
Martok: "How hollow is the sound of victory, without someone to share it with? Honor gives little comfort to a man alone in his home, and in his heart."
We actually have an example with Kor, He was one of the most famous and honored klingons in the empire but he was too good, by the time he was an old man and getting dementia his name and reputation had little influence outside of hero worship. So Martok was dead right with all of he said.
Klingons, the best poets in the Star Trek universe. Change my mind
I feel similar as an avid Gamer...won many virtual battles, earned many achievements, recorded many gaming clips for UA-cam, but, sometimes, they feel...empty, with no 1 to give a damn. For a time, I was married to a fellow Gamer who also shared the same love of gaming, of cartoons & being immature grownups & for a time, it was good.
1 doesn't have to be a Klingon to feel similar as shown here.
@@budsintoronto as a wise man once said, you have not experienced Shakespeare until you have read him in the original Klingon.
Martok counseling the ever stern Worf gently with the heart of a poet to remember his love for Jadzia to reconcile for the wedding; while Sisko’s counseling of the delicately flighty Dax is him brazenly telling her to grow the hell up, act her age for once & accept some accountability in nearly ruining her marriage before even starting it!
The contrast in the mentoring pep talks still tickles me to this day
Martok is an example of a true klingon where as worf has an idealized view of how Klingons should act
Martok dealing with Worf: Calm and Romantic
Sisko dealing with Jadzia: *and then I started blasting*
Bang💥 bang 💥
"She plays Tongo with the Ferengi bartender."
Worf dislikes Quark so much he never calls him by his name. He just calls him "Ferengi".
So do the Jem'Hadar.
Despite Rom, i hate ferengi culture too.
I think it was a warning from screenwriter, or all DS9 team against neoliberalism.
Sadly, murica itself doesnt listen
@@sanhcman666 Nope. It was just for entertainment. Nothing political intended.
@@samsticka and as usual, muricans still believe in capitalism, despite 2008 and trump.
It seems the theory that red scare being actually a curse from native americans is correct.
@@sanhcman666Capitalism does have it's problems, but a free market has also led to immense progress both technologically and economically.
That steak with mushroom and baked potato looks delicious. The bread too. Quark's bar was legit.
Where else you get fresh sea slug in the morning? Breakfast at your favorite bar is the best thing.
i visisted it, in las vegas.
No Replicated slop , all for real
This entire episode was the best kind of fan service.
Yup, I love watching it
Yep. Sisko smacking down Dax's inflated ego is the best kind of fanservice.
Benjamin was right that sirella sees jadzia as the young woman marrying worf
Except we didn't get to hear Morn talk, see Vilix Pran, see the Cardassian neck trick, or find out what self-sealing stembolts do.
I love how pleased Sisko looks when the food gets taken away.
Lol
And alos i love how Obrien and bashir looks of despair.
Similar when they face jem hadar LOL
I remember seeing this as a kid and all I wanted for like months after this was steak with mushrooms and a baked potato with everything on it.
Dammit, you made me hungry with that entire description. I'm going to the steakhouse later today
"You are 356 years old!"
Worf likes them older apparently.
This is what i liked about ds9, it showed us something about the klingons we never really seen much of.
That food looked good!
And its all going to go to waste. 😁
The worst scene in star trek
Sure beats Gak.
@@douglashenry6996
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julius uzu isn’t it just going back into the replicator?
That pep talk from martok. The poet in his heart, I only wish I'm Even Half as dedicated and fluent when I describe the woman who would not only be able to stand my presence... but enjoy and maybe even, relish my companionship.
Who is this 'Even Half', and where may I find more about him?
try being less of a pretentious dork and maybe people will tolerate you enough to actually want to know you.
Sounds like you're doing a decent job already.
martok is one of the wisest klingons in the series.
Gotta love how Sisko lit into Kirzon
You mean lit into jadzin. I don't think kirzon would behave the way jadzia was doing.
Benjamin lit into Jadzia AND Curzon ....... that was every bit of both those Dax's.
Imagine telling a 350+ year old entity to "Grow up!"
Yeah I can't remember how the clip ends but I like to think the next words are act your age 😅
I like the way Sisko handles the situation with Dax. Crushingly telling her to stop the bullshit and she can't keep riding on Curzon's legacy because she isn't Curzon anymore; she's Jadzia! Sirella is the Mistress of a Great House and should be accorded the full respect she's due. I have a friend who I am very close to, and sometimes you have to tell them what they NEED to hear, not what they want to hear. A true friend does that. In the end, Jadiza knew Sisko was right.
I listen to General martok loving and thought provoking thoughts about love and companionship and I think about my own wife and I am filled with that same Pride and comfort in the one I fell in love with it.
After a dinner order like that, I think Quark can finally afford his own moon like cousin Gayla!
And then it all goes straight back into the replicator.
Martok is the big brother we all wish we had
I love that sisko just tanks the Klingon bachelor party like it’s nothing cause he’s ya know THE SISKO
If someone handed me all that food and didn’t let me eat it I’d fight harder than any Klingon warrior
I think it would of been funny as Martok reached to take the food away, Bashir “stabs” his hand with a fork, glaring at him. Playing into the whole thing that Garak previously said about humans and food.
Now I want a steak with mushrooms, baked potato with sour cream and chives, and I don’t even eat red meat….
Don’t forget the shrimp linguine with extra cheese.
@@brucechmiel7964 bajorn shrimp. and watch are in those sandwiches?
@@aredub1847 I just put it together that he likes serving shrimp to humans because it’s an insect
that sandwich looked amazing
Julian's dinner looks delicious!!
Martok and Sirella's backstory intrigues me now...how on Qo'noS did they end up together, i need that love story
ambitious elite young women tying herself to a rising star.
I'm glad Sisko gave her I needed talking down to, instead of trying to be diplomatic.
I like the ending of this episode, where all Khalhaya venturers attack Worf.
Kill Worf... Kill Worf... 😂
None of Worf's partners were ever the "traditional" Klingon woman he had in his mind.
Not Jadzia Dax, not Deanna Troy, and not K'Ehleyr - Alexander's mother - who was an actual Klingon Ambassador
A traditional Klingon woman probably won't want Worf, despite his noble qualities. He's like Spock in that they're both rejected by their own people despite being representing the best of them.
Omg, the thought of chowing down that steak, baked potato, and linguini turned me on just a little bit more than the thought of having a wedding night with Jadzia... 🤤
When you see the bajorans in the background. First they put everything up, then down, then up, then down again xD 3:23 3:28 3:35
FreeStyle poor bastards ;)
Never noticed before, but the guys taking down the wedding decorations are in Bajoran uniforms. Quark really got a couple of soldiers in to put up bunting.
I know that Starfleet and the Bajorans take responsibility for maintenance on the station even in private businesses, but I kind of think decorating crosses the line.
I don't think those people are soliders. Bajoran military uniforms are all grey, all brown, or all red. The ones we see are moss green with a grey top. Same colors Rom wore when he was on the DS9 maintenance staff.
I had to look up who wrote this episode - his name is Ronald D. Moore. I want it out there that this whole scene, especially Martok's counseling to Worf, was so beautifully written, and I have to thank Mr. Moore for this wonderful dialogue.
Sirilla is one lucky women. Martok is a gem.
I had to feel for Chief O'Brien and Dr. Bashir. Having all that food in front of them only for it to be taken away. Then to throw salt on the wounds they are told there is no refund. That's just brutal😂
Something I thought about recently.
Scotty would be glad to know that the future has sandwiches and they're bigger and better than ever
1:11 First? ....Well, in any serious nature, I suppose, yeah.
2:29 He had the crew of the Enterprise before to respect him in his "dishonor" times but.... Not the same.
4:17 I love Sisko putting her in her place!
Two bowls of linguine with Bajoran shrimp with EXTRA CHEESE 🤣
They hadn’t eaten in days.
It's been discussed that Federation citizens probable have most of their needs met, food, housing, clothing, etc. But they are given, or allow extra financing for personal items, or even can earn more funds for such items. Which makes sense given that Bashi and OBrien pay for food from Quark's when they can easily go back to their quarters and get it themselves. Maybe Quark actually might have real food, rather than replicated ones, though there's no mention of a kitchen.
Had a talk with a female friend similar to the one Sisko had with Dax. My friend fell for a guy but would rant about how he’s a dirty, far-right capitalist. I ended up telling her that whatever it is about him she fell in love with is also what makes him that way, so she had only one choice: either stay with him and cope with it or leave and reevaluate what kind of men she falls for, because there was no way in hell she was gonna get him to change - and even if she did, it would change him into someone other than who she fell in love with.
Look at the meal...especially the food beside Julian...!
Looking at Julian lol🤤
She was so much like Kehlar ... and no one even notices.
No refunds for those on the path to Kal'Hayh as well, fake apology.
I'll be honest, Sisko would have been an "acidental" casualty when I tried to kill Worf after being made to starve like that.
Do they get paid at Starfleet, im sure eating at quarks can be spendy
And theres no refund for those on the path to Kal'Hyah.
I assume they get Federation credits or so which can be spent at places which require currency
Good episode
I really want to know what goes into that Double Altair Sandwich...
Double Altair I guess
Dam! Quark does a great spread!
Martok is my favorite Klingon
Sisko is a real one!
02:44 Foods start here
This food is delicious
😂😂😂 Ben was all to happy to revoke the food from Miles and Bashir.. lol
Food makes me hungry
"But you are 356 years old!"
Damn Sisko...
Why???
You are 356 years old... Now act like it.
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Quark is the funnest person in DS9
I love worf &dax got married
Mike Johnson?
The other twin-cousin?
Holy shit Batman.
I may be petty, but if I ordered that much food and it wouldn't get refunded, I say take me off that damn path.
I'd like to eat at Quark's.
They made a mistake of waiting for all the food to arrive.
god dammit, your hearing can decive you, if you are not paying attention o.o
Dax, of all non-klingon people out there, should have known exactly what Sirella expected of her. Sirella commands a Great House, she was a noble lady before marrying Martok, she has massive amounts of reputation and social standing to maintain for the sake of that House. The livelihoods, social standing, respectability of everybody in that House rests on her's and Martok's shoulders.
Of course she's going to give Dax a ridiculously hard time, she has to! It's literally her job. But no, Dax had to be rude, disrespectful and intolerably arrogant to the one person she must grovel to.
Dax is an idiot.
The bread on that sandwich is thicker than my wrist
3:03
Should have asked? Take out and save it for later.
Due to Jedzia being the host of the Dax symbiote, she had everything given to her. This was the first time she ever had to earn something.
356 years old talk about a wedding reception conversation starter
"I'll get the menu." Yeah because a replicator with hundreds of thousands of meals from hundreds of different species can be fitted onto an A4 piece of paper.
Based on Quark's comment about squeezing the juice, rather than replicating it, (3:00) we might assume that this is all non-replicated food, hence the menus.
I thought Worf had a wife in TNG...?
She died.
I love this. Dax is confronted with a difficult personal relationship situation and what happens? Instead of touting cancel culture, praising her stand to live her life her way, Sisko calls her out. He tells her to get off her high horse. If she wants to be part of a community, a family, she will have to compromise, she will have to acknowledge, at least some of the time, that its not all about her. And amazingly she listens. The Federation really is a fantastic place for that alone. People listen to each other. They let their minds be changed. That more than the technology is the dream that makes Star Trek so appealing.
Worf would like you to transfer an message to the her Majesty the Queen. Tell her all I want is the best for her and I dont oppose her rule in the realm and I respect her as the ruler. As well inform her that I am plagued by all sorts of spirits and that alot of times my thoughts arnt my own. All I have is respect and honer for her Majesty The Queen Elizabeth the second. I know your obligated to send her this.
Also I have no other way to communicate and this address to the Majesty will be misused in any way. If she so wishes it will be erased.
In good faith I will delete these posts. So it is not missinterpreted . Furthermore, I would like to ask the Highnes the Queen a show of mercy and a peaceful existence in her realm. As your duty as her subjects I would expect relay of my feelings to the ruler of the realm.
@@markblazevic9751 If you want to send the Queen a message, just write a letter and put it into the post.
Just write
HM Queen Elizabeth II
Buckingham Palace
London
UK
And I guarantee you, it will get there.
This wedding is actually so tragic considering what happens to Jadzia. If Worf hadn’t married her, it would have saved him a lot of awkward scenes with Ezri.
Similar could be said of any marriage, or relationship, or friendship even, the price of love is loss. If people went around avoiding things because tragedy might happen later on, we would never have made out of Eden.
It never made any sense to me that warf's son was such a pussy. I guess plot is the only explanation.
Some apples do fall far from the tree